Great advice and not just for photographers. Your reputation is 'what people say about you behind your back' and is built when you don't think people are watching. Fact is that people are watching!
Great episode! I live in a small town where everyone knows each other and word gets around quickly. It's therefore extremely important to remember and follow these basic manners.
Thanks Juanita, yeah in a small town everything I mentioned is exaggerated as well. Friday night I'll announce the finalist for the contest from a couple months ago and will reveal the last theme for my monthly contest. I'm going to shut it down for a while and rethink how to do it better, because we don't get enough entries to justify doing so frequently :(.
@@AskMOTT awww, that's sad indeed - but yes, it should be viable and an asset for you for the time you spend on it. Fingers crossed that you'll find a way x
Justin - I thought it was just me who felt like that. Two things I hate are photographers assuming they will be fed during a wedding and some will even put it in the contract. I am grateful if it’s offered and will accept but I always ask if I may sit separately so I can back up my images. If it’s not offered upfront I take my own food. The second is charging for 8 hours only. They start at 8am with the hair and makeup. 8 hours will take them to 4pm they then ask for payment for the additional hours immediately at twice their normal rate. If you take a booking for an event such as a wedding it’s from start to finish. In the UK we have “Wedding Fayres” and there are normally a few photographers. Some will speak to others some won’t. I will chat - if you click then you may get work they can’t do and vice versa At one fair there was a young woman photographer I wandered over to say hi. We chatted and I looked at her work and it was good but I saw her prices. They were so low. I asked how she could offer a good service at such a low price. She told me she earned about £30 but her husband had a very good job and she enjoyed photography and just did it for “pin money”. How can any professional Photographer compete?
Mike Birbiglia talks of late people and on-time people in one of his routines. Basically, "on-time" lasts precisely one second. After that you're late. Being early, and how early, is in your control. If you're late, it's because you don't respect my time....and if you work for me it can only happen once.
I fully agree with all your points Justin and in the world we live in people are not people of there word no more and respect almost does not mean a thing now a days. Good vlog .
I hired a 2nd shooter for a wedding and watched her approach the bride as the meal was being served. I asked the bride later what was said and was informed that the 2nd shooter had asked her to demand a refund from me, get me to give her all my memory cards and she would do the entire wedding for half my fee. Breathtaking rudeness.
I see each and every one of those regularly. One from me would be always to dress appropriately. You can relax it a little on an editorial shoot but otherwise if you're going into someone's business then dress slightly smarter than you expect the employees to be. There is a category of person you will encounter who is looking to be critical of the photographer and 'scruffy' is one of the first things they will clutch on. Video teams appear to get away with a lot more in terms of appearance, but we can't.
I hate when people are late...all that time together that I was waiting for somebody added up is pretty significant. Most of the time I give them 10-15 mins and if they don't show up/call I just leave but not always I have the liberty to do that. Whenever I have to be on time myself I have a rule to assume the meeting is happening half an hour earlier. Of course, there can be unpredictable circumstances but these days we have a phone at hand, right?
Kindred souls Richard ha ha. Hate the unapologetic tardiness the most. I saw an awesome line in a spy tv show , can’t remember which one, but one character said to the other “I’ll meet you at 2pm, if you’re there after 215pm I won’t be.”
Great advice and not just for photographers. Your reputation is 'what people say about you behind your back' and is built when you don't think people are watching. Fact is that people are watching!
Wait , are you watching me :)
@@AskMOTT haha - actually yes, impressed, which is why I've just shared on LinkedIn. Straight talking - love it.
The don't be cheap advice is absolutely on point. Well said.
Pure wisdom and zero bs. Love it!
Thanks Chris , maybe I should start w some BS so I get a higher following ha ha .
Great episode! I live in a small town where everyone knows each other and word gets around quickly. It's therefore extremely important to remember and follow these basic manners.
Thanks Juanita, yeah in a small town everything I mentioned is exaggerated as well. Friday night I'll announce the finalist for the contest from a couple months ago and will reveal the last theme for my monthly contest. I'm going to shut it down for a while and rethink how to do it better, because we don't get enough entries to justify doing so frequently :(.
@@AskMOTT awww, that's sad indeed - but yes, it should be viable and an asset for you for the time you spend on it. Fingers crossed that you'll find a way x
This was very insightful!!!!! Thank you for sharing
Thank you David :)
Justin - I thought it was just me who felt like that. Two things I hate are photographers assuming they will be fed during a wedding and some will even put it in the contract. I am grateful if it’s offered and will accept but I always ask if I may sit separately so I can back up my images. If it’s not offered upfront I take my own food.
The second is charging for 8 hours only. They start at 8am with the hair and makeup. 8 hours will take them to 4pm they then ask for payment for the additional hours immediately at twice their normal rate.
If you take a booking for an event such as a wedding it’s from start to finish.
In the UK we have “Wedding Fayres” and there are normally a few photographers. Some will speak to others some won’t. I will chat - if you click then you may get work they can’t do and vice versa
At one fair there was a young woman photographer I wandered over to say hi. We chatted and I looked at her work and it was good but I saw her prices. They were so low. I asked how she could offer a good service at such a low price. She told me she earned about £30 but her husband had a very good job and she enjoyed photography and just did it for “pin money”. How can any professional Photographer compete?
Mike Birbiglia talks of late people and on-time people in one of his routines. Basically, "on-time" lasts precisely one second. After that you're late. Being early, and how early, is in your control. If you're late, it's because you don't respect my time....and if you work for me it can only happen once.
I totally agree with him :)
@@AskMOTT bit here: ruclips.net/user/shorts2VBUhUHGmGg?feature=share
I fully agree with all your points Justin and in the world we live in people are not people of there word no more and respect almost does not mean a thing now a days. Good vlog .
Thank you Stuart, yeah I find it rare people keep their word anymore.
Welll said sir!
Thank. you Jon-Nolan :).
I hired a 2nd shooter for a wedding and watched her approach the bride as the meal was being served. I asked the bride later what was said and was informed that the 2nd shooter had asked her to demand a refund from me, get me to give her all my memory cards and she would do the entire wedding for half my fee. Breathtaking rudeness.
I see each and every one of those regularly. One from me would be always to dress appropriately. You can relax it a little on an editorial shoot but otherwise if you're going into someone's business then dress slightly smarter than you expect the employees to be. There is a category of person you will encounter who is looking to be critical of the photographer and 'scruffy' is one of the first things they will clutch on. Video teams appear to get away with a lot more in terms of appearance, but we can't.
Great advice whether you are a photographer or not
Thank you :)
It’s basically just remembering what your Mother taught you about ‘good manners’…..📸🌈🇬🇧😎
Pretty much Peter :)
I hate when people are late...all that time together that I was waiting for somebody added up is pretty significant. Most of the time I give them 10-15 mins and if they don't show up/call I just leave but not always I have the liberty to do that. Whenever I have to be on time myself I have a rule to assume the meeting is happening half an hour earlier. Of course, there can be unpredictable circumstances but these days we have a phone at hand, right?
Kindred souls Richard ha ha. Hate the unapologetic tardiness the most. I saw an awesome line in a spy tv show , can’t remember which one, but one character said to the other “I’ll meet you at 2pm, if you’re there after 215pm I won’t be.”
Let’s hear your advice?
Great advice. Thanks for sharing
My pleasure Daniel, thanks for watching.
these are amazing tips
Thanks Priyanko.
Treat clients like used car salesmen. They will screw you over at every opportunity.
if you good then don't be cheap. but if not then do for free, until becoming very good.
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