It's mainly because of this Track... Similar to the kerbs on the Nordschleife, the kerbs are very steep and narrow in Zandvoort. On most racetracks the kerbs are meant to be useed, but on this one it is very important to stay away from most of them.
Great guide even if it is a few years old now at this stage. Practicing for this weeks LFM dailies, managed to get down to 1.37 after watching this and there's still a lot of time left on the track to work on. Zandvoort is a track only the Dutch could come up with, its so unique and a lot of fun once you get comfortable with it. Thanks for all the content you provide - really appreciated.
Thanks for your lap guides. I'm 3 races into my first ACC league. They have really helped me learn the tracks as I go. It's been really challenging because I'm somewhat new to GT racing. I'm used to being in F1 leagues, and driving these cars is very different
TY, you really helped!!! I went from the 1':45"s to 1':39:647" after practicing for about 20 laps with my Aston (V8). It's still a bit scary for me to try some of things you have done yet but I'll get there.
Nice guide. I am new to this game but Zandvoort is one of my favourite tracks. I didn't watched any guides before but somehow I managed 1:42 with 46L in the Lambo 😅 I'll try to reduce it and use your breaking points, it will definitely help me because I mentioned that I am breaking sometimes too early or for too long. I.e. the last chicane I needed to shift down to first, because I loose so much momentum in the left turn.
Another good reason to avoid some kerbs (especially the tight corners with the little raised "island" at the apex) is that they can knock some tyre pressure out of your tyre each time you hit them too hard.
I Have driven the track quite a lot. I even got my racing license there, but the first corner (Tarzan) is supposed te be driven differently. You drive all the way on the left, brake rally late turn very sharply and basically take a straight line from the left side of the corner along a very late apex.
Hi, I really like your track guide videos:) But I always struggling with the breaking point on the track. I am good at it with it have racing line guide, but when I hide the racing line, I always forget the breaking points. I think I need to practice at lot to learn a track since I just started playing sim race game. So, I want to know when you are learning a new track at beginning, what do you do? Do you practice a lot with the racing line on or off? And normally how long it will take to know the track very well(by laps or time)? What else do you suggest to a racing beginner? I really like your videos, keep it up! :)
Theres a lot of things to consider when learning a track but i can mention a few things. I personally dont use the racing line guide but that very much is a useful tool for learning a track. Over time you need to start picking out braking markers for corners like you see in this video, it can be objects on the side of the track or anything that can help you remember the right spot for braking. You also must understand the shapes of the corners properly, some corners might be a lot tighter than you are trying to taking them and might require you to slow down a lot more than you think. There are many things you can do when learning a track but I think you are doing a good thing by using the racing line guide. Definitely finding brake markers and understanding each corner on the track is super important too.
I basically HAVE to use the racing line to learn a track. Especially the braking points. Time on-track will tell you where the lines are, but with me, it takes a lot more laps on top of that to nail the braking points. And the thing I'm worst at is still slowing down too much. Not crazy amounts, but enough that I lose several seconds by the lap's end.
@@DaanRacer Then I must be a slow learner or something because there's NO way I can go to a brand new track and master the location of all braking points in just 5 laps. 5 laps is about where I BEGIN to get a feel for them. You must be one of those aliens I keep hearing tell of. But I have changed up my learning style since writing that comment. Now I prefer to learn it on my own, without the line; unless I have a problem corner(s) that I just can't seem to master without it, e.g. Raidillon into Eau Rouge.
@@Quazi-Moto it's not about mastering it, after 5 laps you can drive it without crashing. Then you need to build everything up, the setup, finer your brake points and racing line
I am playing this game the past three days and trying to get a feeling for it in practice mode. Out of all the tracks zandvoort is the one that gives me the hardest time, I can't complete a lap without crashing the car.
Not in replay mode, I cant record while I drive because of the stress on the computer causing lag, so I have to record my replay which never used to have any sort of hud elements available. Now it's there and hopefully is helpful
Thank you again for the video! Still about 3 seconds slower. 1:36 is possible for me. But a question: What conditions do you use? Do you change the settings of the car? Kunos says, that the pre-settings for each cars a very fast.
I used aggressive default setup with the following conditions: Mode - Hotlap Time - 16:00 Cloud cover - 25% Avg Ambient Temp - 20 degrees C Track Grip - Optimum
Hi! The conditions I drove this lap on are: Hotlap mode Time - 16:00 Temp - 20 degrees C (either that or 22 C, I forgot, i did a faster time of 1:34.434 that was definitely using 20 degrees C) Cloud cover - 25% Track grip - optimum
The porsche is so easy to be fast in on zandvoort. 19 laps in with the mclaren im running 1:37:6s (stil laps up to 1:38 aswell) and with the porsche in 4 laps practice 1:36:6 (and generaly mid 1:37s easly)
Thats a really good lap. My line and brake points are the same, but im doing 36.5 so it has to be setup and inputs, you are better on the inputs and i know where to find improvement now. Also, i havent checked, but do you have a setup for this car/track/time?
Just using default aggressive setup in this lap. A combination of braking, trail braking, turning points and throttle control put together really well can add up to a very quick lap time. It's not something that can normally be picked up in a few minutes, itll take a lot of studying of lines and car control and then practice to take more seconds off your time
I wont be doing new lap guides based on the new track grip levels but I may redo some of my older lap guides such as zolder and hungaroring because you have to take a few different lines now
# unleashed drivers, would you mind sharing your toe and camber settings for that porsche on zandvoort? Thanks in advance! 😎 Great vid, very helpful✌🏼🚦🏁
Hello guys! Even though you made this video more than a year ago, I will give it a try and maybe you will respond. I would like to ask what wheel and pedals you use. I saw in another video that you (one of you) use a Logitech G29 wheel. Do you use the stock pedals? I am asking this because in another video you compared the cars around this circuit and you were in the 1:35's and 1:34's. Even though I am new to sim racing, I feel I am on the edge of the car's grip and I just can't find a way to go under 1:40. I heard that load cell pedals help to go deeper when braking at a corner entry. I was wondering if you were able to complete these lap times consistently with a stock pedal set in which the brake pedal does not have a load cell module. Is it possible? I am considering buying a load cell pedal set but if you say that you can complete these lap times with a stock pedal set, I will try to refine my brake usage before further considering the load cell pedal set. Thank you in advance if you respond.
Hi! I dont use the stock pedals anymore, I use the Fanatec V3 Clubsport pedals now, however, when this video was made, I was still using the stock Logitech pedals. Load cell pedals will most likely not increase pace, however they will likely improve your consistency and you may find it easier to brake correctly with. A lot of time is made under braking yes, however also focus on your acceleration zones, dont wait too late to accelerate and make sure not to accelerate too early making you have to lift off throttle again so that you dont run off the track. Ideally you enter corner max braking force, hold max braking force until you are in the turning zone, as you turn in, release the brake pedal down to about 10-20% which is the trail braking part of the turn, and about mid corner you should have no more brake input, make sure the car has gripped up at the front and begin accelerating out of the turn, in a lot of cars you can put your foot flat on the throttle immediately, in some cars it requires a more gradual application. But all of this should ideally be in one fairly smooth motion, tapping the brake multiple times into a corner too hard will cause great time loss and the same with stuttery throttle inputs on exit. Load cell pedals are recommended if you can afford it, but I wouldnt say lap times will come flying down because of them unless they somehow help you pick up information from the car that you didnt get before (which could be possible), I'd say spend lots of time practicing your technique whether on logitech pedals or load cell pedals, watch pedal inputs from other drivers, search up about trail braking techniques and examples. Itll all come in time but it definitely needs a lot of practice
Hello there! Thank you very much for taking such a lot of time to respond in such details! I truly appreciate it, thank you so much! I was already amazed by your laps, now I am even more amazed! :) Congratulations for your driving! I will take your advices and spend a lot of time (as much as time allows) on practice. However, I am very frustrated. Sometimes I do manage to brake quite late, but when I turn in, I can't find the grip that your cars seem to have mid-corner. Maybe I will have to be earlier on the throttle and increase the steering input. I am just afraid that the rear and will kick out. My car seems to be less stable and softer (I mean the suspension) showing a bit more lateral rolls. I intentionally used the agressive preset without any modification to compare myself to you and others who uploaded their laps with the aggresive preset. Also, I can't be earlier on the throttle at corner exits, otherwise I get wheel spin and oversteer. I guess it comes down to that I had been driving Gran Turismo for years and especially with controller, not a steering wheel. So, I am still adjusting to how I should drive fast and smoothly using a wheel and pedals. I am frustrated but I will not give up. And again, thank you very much for your kindness to respond in such details!
No worries! Unfortunately im not super clued up on setups in ACC yet so I dont plan to be making setup guides as of yet but if you search up "Racing Sim Tools", I'm sure you will learn a lot. Super great guy who knows exactly what he is talking about when it comes to the technical stuff and setups.
I heard that tracks have been made somewhat slower now is it true? Are these guides still valid? Can these lap times still be achieved with stock aggressive?
Hm. That might help explain why I suck so hard at this track (or not). I'm a full 10 seconds behind what is shown here. Using the Lambo at the moment, but will try a Porsche next just to see how far I can drop that disgusting lap time.
Mate why doesn't your tyre pressures show? This track is super hard on the left tyres temp wise... but strangely enough nobody that does 1:34's ever show their tyre temps or pressures. Wonder why
You're disappointed by that? Ha! My current best is a 44.9... 10 whole seconds behind this video. Worst part is I don't really know where to salvage those seconds from.
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Hi
So what I learned is Zandvoort's kerbs will make the car feel depressed.
Can confirm, car is now in therapy.
The one thing I l learnt with this video:
"DON'T UPSET THE CAR"
CheckedJackets don’t talk too loud to the car, it’ll throw you off in to the grass.
It's mainly because of this Track... Similar to the kerbs on the Nordschleife, the kerbs are very steep and narrow in Zandvoort.
On most racetracks the kerbs are meant to be useed, but on this one it is very important to stay away from most of them.
@@OnePoundFisch Exactly, literally everything at Zandvoort upsets the car! XD
Samir, you are upsetting the car!
Such a snowflake car.
nobody makes LAP guides so good ! really nice work. when i watch this video only once i get even 2seconds better.
Damn, you created this track guide in late 2019. It's 2022, and I still come here to refresh my memory.
Great guide even if it is a few years old now at this stage.
Practicing for this weeks LFM dailies, managed to get down to 1.37 after watching this and there's still a lot of time left on the track to work on. Zandvoort is a track only the Dutch could come up with, its so unique and a lot of fun once you get comfortable with it.
Thanks for all the content you provide - really appreciated.
Thanks for your lap guides. I'm 3 races into my first ACC league. They have really helped me learn the tracks as I go. It's been really challenging because I'm somewhat new to GT racing. I'm used to being in F1 leagues, and driving these cars is very different
TY, you really helped!!! I went from the 1':45"s to 1':39:647" after practicing for about 20 laps with my Aston (V8). It's still a bit scary for me to try some of things you have done yet but I'll get there.
I got my lfm license first try with your guide. Thanks!
Nice guide. I am new to this game but Zandvoort is one of my favourite tracks. I didn't watched any guides before but somehow I managed 1:42 with 46L in the Lambo 😅
I'll try to reduce it and use your breaking points, it will definitely help me because I mentioned that I am breaking sometimes too early or for too long. I.e. the last chicane I needed to shift down to first, because I loose so much momentum in the left turn.
Another good reason to avoid some kerbs (especially the tight corners with the little raised "island" at the apex) is that they can knock some tyre pressure out of your tyre each time you hit them too hard.
Wally Masterson omg I thought my Motec data was the issue cuz sometimes 1 tyre lost pressure. Didnt know that was a thing
Best track guide on the web!
Helped immensely. I am finally able to enjoy ACC. Thanks.
Excellent video, man. Congrats for the video and for the great driving. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for curing my car's depression
I Have driven the track quite a lot. I even got my racing license there, but the first corner (Tarzan) is supposed te be driven differently. You drive all the way on the left, brake rally late turn very sharply and basically take a straight line from the left side of the corner along a very late apex.
Hi, I really like your track guide videos:) But I always struggling with the breaking point on the track. I am good at it with it have racing line guide, but when I hide the racing line, I always forget the breaking points. I think I need to practice at lot to learn a track since I just started playing sim race game. So, I want to know when you are learning a new track at beginning, what do you do? Do you practice a lot with the racing line on or off? And normally how long it will take to know the track very well(by laps or time)? What else do you suggest to a racing beginner? I really like your videos, keep it up! :)
Theres a lot of things to consider when learning a track but i can mention a few things.
I personally dont use the racing line guide but that very much is a useful tool for learning a track. Over time you need to start picking out braking markers for corners like you see in this video, it can be objects on the side of the track or anything that can help you remember the right spot for braking. You also must understand the shapes of the corners properly, some corners might be a lot tighter than you are trying to taking them and might require you to slow down a lot more than you think. There are many things you can do when learning a track but I think you are doing a good thing by using the racing line guide. Definitely finding brake markers and understanding each corner on the track is super important too.
I basically HAVE to use the racing line to learn a track. Especially the braking points. Time on-track will tell you where the lines are, but with me, it takes a lot more laps on top of that to nail the braking points. And the thing I'm worst at is still slowing down too much. Not crazy amounts, but enough that I lose several seconds by the lap's end.
@@Quazi-Moto just turn it off and go driving, you'll brake too late or too early in the beginning but after like 5 laps you'll get it
@@DaanRacer Then I must be a slow learner or something because there's NO way I can go to a brand new track and master the location of all braking points in just 5 laps.
5 laps is about where I BEGIN to get a feel for them.
You must be one of those aliens I keep hearing tell of.
But I have changed up my learning style since writing that comment. Now I prefer to learn it on my own, without the line; unless I have a problem corner(s) that I just can't seem to master without it, e.g. Raidillon into Eau Rouge.
@@Quazi-Moto it's not about mastering it, after 5 laps you can drive it without crashing. Then you need to build everything up, the setup, finer your brake points and racing line
Magnificent lap!
your track guides helped me alot thank you. you have my sub :)
This is such a fun track
Great work, very helpful 👏 I'm braking so early at the moment
I am playing this game the past three days and trying to get a feeling for it in practice mode. Out of all the tracks zandvoort is the one that gives me the hardest time, I can't complete a lap without crashing the car.
Excellent. Thanks a lot - fast, clean, educational!
They really need to add the modern version of this track, the last corner and first hairpin are so much different now and way more fun
Beautiful game
Do the driver ratings (platinum-bronze) affect the cars' performance? Or is it that an Audi is an Audi is an Audi?
So basically don't touch the kerbs.
Can't believe how different it is to F12020.
Thanks for the guides. Have subbed.
"In ACC's new update we now have throttle and brake inputs" - what do you mean with that?
Not in replay mode, I cant record while I drive because of the stress on the computer causing lag, so I have to record my replay which never used to have any sort of hud elements available. Now it's there and hopefully is helpful
@@unleasheddrivers1281that definitely helps thanks for the lap guide i found this track is very uncomfortabble at sector2
You can now see when he brakes and accerelates and how much
Thank you again for the video! Still about 3 seconds slower. 1:36 is possible for me. But a question: What conditions do you use? Do you change the settings of the car? Kunos says, that the pre-settings for each cars a very fast.
I used aggressive default setup with the following conditions:
Mode - Hotlap
Time - 16:00
Cloud cover - 25%
Avg Ambient Temp - 20 degrees C
Track Grip - Optimum
Hi! The conditions I drove this lap on are:
Hotlap mode
Time - 16:00
Temp - 20 degrees C (either that or 22 C, I forgot, i did a faster time of 1:34.434 that was definitely using 20 degrees C)
Cloud cover - 25%
Track grip - optimum
SAMIR YOU ARE UPSETTING THE CAR!!!
The porsche is so easy to be fast in on zandvoort. 19 laps in with the mclaren im running 1:37:6s (stil laps up to 1:38 aswell) and with the porsche in 4 laps practice 1:36:6 (and generaly mid 1:37s easly)
Thanks for the great video. Would it be possible to have the unedited lap to watch too? I would find that useful.
Can you please share your setup ? Great explanations and pointing out brake markers!
He uses the stock aggressive setup
I am still struggling with Porsche challenge in AC
Thats a really good lap. My line and brake points are the same, but im doing 36.5 so it has to be setup and inputs, you are better on the inputs and i know where to find improvement now. Also, i havent checked, but do you have a setup for this car/track/time?
Just using default aggressive setup in this lap. A combination of braking, trail braking, turning points and throttle control put together really well can add up to a very quick lap time. It's not something that can normally be picked up in a few minutes, itll take a lot of studying of lines and car control and then practice to take more seconds off your time
Amazing! Very impressive and thanks for the guide
Great lap mate, but I don't believe you've used the default agressive setup, this car here is undriveable!!!
I thought so too at first but you get used to it after 100-150 laps
would be nice with a setup :-)
can you add a map to your track guides ? it would be better to understand your decisions for the next corner. thx
Will you be doing lap guides on the updated surfaces?? Or will that not matter??
I wont be doing new lap guides based on the new track grip levels but I may redo some of my older lap guides such as zolder and hungaroring because you have to take a few different lines now
thanks a lot, that was helpful.. Can you share with us the Motec file in order to performe a data analysis comparison ? that would help even more! :-)
I'll try figure this out at some point
Thank you.
# unleashed drivers, would you mind sharing your toe and camber settings for that porsche on zandvoort? Thanks in advance! 😎 Great vid, very helpful✌🏼🚦🏁
Hi I'm just using the default aggressive setup here, I havent changed anything on the car
More please!
Hello guys! Even though you made this video more than a year ago, I will give it a try and maybe you will respond. I would like to ask what wheel and pedals you use. I saw in another video that you (one of you) use a Logitech G29 wheel. Do you use the stock pedals? I am asking this because in another video you compared the cars around this circuit and you were in the 1:35's and 1:34's. Even though I am new to sim racing, I feel I am on the edge of the car's grip and I just can't find a way to go under 1:40. I heard that load cell pedals help to go deeper when braking at a corner entry. I was wondering if you were able to complete these lap times consistently with a stock pedal set in which the brake pedal does not have a load cell module. Is it possible? I am considering buying a load cell pedal set but if you say that you can complete these lap times with a stock pedal set, I will try to refine my brake usage before further considering the load cell pedal set. Thank you in advance if you respond.
Hi! I dont use the stock pedals anymore, I use the Fanatec V3 Clubsport pedals now, however, when this video was made, I was still using the stock Logitech pedals. Load cell pedals will most likely not increase pace, however they will likely improve your consistency and you may find it easier to brake correctly with. A lot of time is made under braking yes, however also focus on your acceleration zones, dont wait too late to accelerate and make sure not to accelerate too early making you have to lift off throttle again so that you dont run off the track. Ideally you enter corner max braking force, hold max braking force until you are in the turning zone, as you turn in, release the brake pedal down to about 10-20% which is the trail braking part of the turn, and about mid corner you should have no more brake input, make sure the car has gripped up at the front and begin accelerating out of the turn, in a lot of cars you can put your foot flat on the throttle immediately, in some cars it requires a more gradual application. But all of this should ideally be in one fairly smooth motion, tapping the brake multiple times into a corner too hard will cause great time loss and the same with stuttery throttle inputs on exit. Load cell pedals are recommended if you can afford it, but I wouldnt say lap times will come flying down because of them unless they somehow help you pick up information from the car that you didnt get before (which could be possible), I'd say spend lots of time practicing your technique whether on logitech pedals or load cell pedals, watch pedal inputs from other drivers, search up about trail braking techniques and examples. Itll all come in time but it definitely needs a lot of practice
Hello there! Thank you very much for taking such a lot of time to respond in such details! I truly appreciate it, thank you so much! I was already amazed by your laps, now I am even more amazed! :) Congratulations for your driving! I will take your advices and spend a lot of time (as much as time allows) on practice. However, I am very frustrated. Sometimes I do manage to brake quite late, but when I turn in, I can't find the grip that your cars seem to have mid-corner. Maybe I will have to be earlier on the throttle and increase the steering input. I am just afraid that the rear and will kick out. My car seems to be less stable and softer (I mean the suspension) showing a bit more lateral rolls. I intentionally used the agressive preset without any modification to compare myself to you and others who uploaded their laps with the aggresive preset. Also, I can't be earlier on the throttle at corner exits, otherwise I get wheel spin and oversteer. I guess it comes down to that I had been driving Gran Turismo for years and especially with controller, not a steering wheel. So, I am still adjusting to how I should drive fast and smoothly using a wheel and pedals. I am frustrated but I will not give up. And again, thank you very much for your kindness to respond in such details!
I just cannot get three track medals here. I keep getting penalised and I have no idea why as my laps seem clean to me.
Thanks Bro! Wheen setup for porsche and McLaren720s and new Aston?
No worries! Unfortunately im not super clued up on setups in ACC yet so I dont plan to be making setup guides as of yet but if you search up "Racing Sim Tools", I'm sure you will learn a lot. Super great guy who knows exactly what he is talking about when it comes to the technical stuff and setups.
Let's hope ACC can be updated to the most recent profile for this track. For now, the new banking is missing in ACC.
wait until gt world race at zandvoort
Excelent guide, a track map would be useful but this is really helpful anyway
only managed 1.41 with the new vantage on my first blind try
Is this okay with a controller? I dont have money for a wheel
If you want to judge my Zolder Hotlap video, thank you.
so the real record of 1:22 when you select this track in ac its for F1 cars?
Real record of GT3 cars on Zandvoort is NOT 1:22 ;-) GT3 cars did the original Zandvoort around 1:33-1:34
I heard that tracks have been made somewhat slower now is it true? Are these guides still valid? Can these lap times still be achieved with stock aggressive?
Hm. That might help explain why I suck so hard at this track (or not). I'm a full 10 seconds behind what is shown here. Using the Lambo at the moment, but will try a Porsche next just to see how far I can drop that disgusting lap time.
You on the default aggressive setup there?
Yes I am
thanks!
Mate why doesn't your tyre pressures show?
This track is super hard on the left tyres temp wise... but strangely enough nobody that does 1:34's ever show their tyre temps or pressures. Wonder why
Gracias por traducirlo a Español.
Jeezus. I've only driven the old 911 here and did a 37.9, way off.
You're disappointed by that? Ha! My current best is a 44.9... 10 whole seconds behind this video. Worst part is I don't really know where to salvage those seconds from.
setup?
using ambulance for braking lol
Мой рекорд 1.29.