It's interesting to see how the demonstrator has to move his head slightly at times to avoid hitting his hat with the musket. This was a concern back in the 18th century and it just occurred to me that this may be why the US Army adopted a hat with brim turned up on one side?
Great job, gentleman. So, much simpler than Hardee's and Casey's, which is what's used out here in California! Unfortunately, I'm not in Brigade command and changing to this is never likely to happen.
This is the kind of stuff i like the most in military history, the "small" things, like the drill, the rations, how to use one´s gear. I always find frustating that most people are more interested in the battles without thinking about the little details in the life of the soldiers, they were and are human beings as well. I thank to all of you for this channel. Now I have a question: from looking at the uniforms i can tell that this is CSA drill or it was used in the USA(or union)as well?
Very good! Let's have some more from other manuals! One question: in the Civil War was the NCO expected to be in the position of attention when giving commands? I know we do it that way now, though that expectation might be relaxed in a training environment (it's hard to teach someone when you're not really looking at them!).
Hi Chris! Thanks for the comment. It was done this way to clearly show the movements. You pose a good question that I think would have varied, with two factors. First factor would be who is leading the company and their demands on the initial training. Would they be so precise? That's a person to person question. The second is how the unit would have relaxed into knowing the drill as they grew together as a company. You see this sort of variance even today. An infantry platoon in service is not a Marine drill team - as a overly wide example. Good question!
I second that. I found this looking for that drill. From what I have deciphered from the 1839 manual all of these movements are spot on, just the order is different. Scott's had a "Load in 12 Times" step for flint lock muskets but there was a modification circa 1843 for Percussion Locks to a "Load in 10 Times" procedure. I have not watched the other videos in this series yet so that may be covered already. What I can see missing vs Scott's is 1. REST during Support Arms, 2. Charge Bayonet, Fix and Unfix Bayonet. I still found this video immensely helpful for learning the Scott's drill movements for my 1851-1855 5th US Infantry impression.
It was widely used for guards walking their routes. (photos show it used often with men on guard) The exact same position was also used in the danish army but here is is listed under "specials positions" and that it is for guard duty. And the modern day royal life guards use a modified version of it (with M16s) when guarding the Queen.
Scott's 1839 until Hardee's was published in 1855. Then Casey's in 1863 for Union. Hardee released a modified version in 1861 for Confederate forces as he joined that side. Then there is Gilham's on the Confederate side as well. It depends on what impression you are trying to do and more importantly what rifle/musket you have. Older drills are based around longer muskets like the 1942 and 1847 Springield and require a lot of leaning at an angle. Confederates use a lot of surplus weaponry so older drill techniques still applied. Union forces had newer and slightly shorter rifles like the .58 cal 1861 Springfield and more of the drill is straight out in front with the piece vertical. Trying to do Casey's with an 1842 can be challenging but its possible. Doing any drill with a shorter piece is not as difficult.
It's interesting to see how the demonstrator has to move his head slightly at times to avoid hitting his hat with the musket. This was a concern back in the 18th century and it just occurred to me that this may be why the US Army adopted a hat with brim turned up on one side?
Yup. The Dress hat (Hardee) had the brass eagle for that reason. Will
Great job, gentleman. So, much simpler than Hardee's and Casey's, which is what's used out here in California! Unfortunately, I'm not in Brigade command and changing to this is never likely to happen.
great video you should do hardees manual.
This is the kind of stuff i like the most in military history, the "small" things, like the drill, the rations, how to use one´s gear. I always find frustating that most people are more interested in the battles without thinking about the little details in the life of the soldiers, they were and are human beings as well. I thank to all of you for this channel. Now I have a question: from looking at the uniforms i can tell that this is CSA drill or it was used in the USA(or union)as well?
+Lancelot DarkAura take a watch of the introduction episode. It was primarily CS with some select US usage.
good stuff keep them coming
nicely done chaps!
Very good! Let's have some more from other manuals! One question: in the Civil War was the NCO expected to be in the position of attention when giving commands? I know we do it that way now, though that expectation might be relaxed in a training environment (it's hard to teach someone when you're not really looking at them!).
Keep up the good work!
It would be cool if you could do some company drill. Maybe with a drone for some overhead shots
nice!
The motions seem very "mechanical." Would they be as such during actual drill?
Hi Chris! Thanks for the comment. It was done this way to clearly show the movements. You pose a good question that I think would have varied, with two factors. First factor would be who is leading the company and their demands on the initial training. Would they be so precise? That's a person to person question. The second is how the unit would have relaxed into knowing the drill as they grew together as a company. You see this sort of variance even today. An infantry platoon in service is not a Marine drill team - as a overly wide example. Good question!
CAN YOU GUYS DO A VIDEO ABOUT SCOTT'S MANUAL OF ARMS? ???????....NO VIDEOS ON RUclips ABOUT IT
We can put it on the list!
@@CivilWarDigitalDigest thank you guys so much...
I second that. I found this looking for that drill. From what I have deciphered from the 1839 manual all of these movements are spot on, just the order is different. Scott's had a "Load in 12 Times" step for flint lock muskets but there was a modification circa 1843 for Percussion Locks to a "Load in 10 Times" procedure. I have not watched the other videos in this series yet so that may be covered already. What I can see missing vs Scott's is 1. REST during Support Arms, 2. Charge Bayonet, Fix and Unfix Bayonet. I still found this video immensely helpful for learning the Scott's drill movements for my 1851-1855 5th US Infantry impression.
What was the point of support arms?
It was widely used for guards walking their routes. (photos show it used often with men on guard)
The exact same position was also used in the danish army but here is is listed under "specials positions" and that it is for guard duty.
And the modern day royal life guards use a modified version of it (with M16s) when guarding the Queen.
What was the manual used before the war for the U.S. army
Scott’s would be a good one. Links to digital copies can be found scrolling down through here:
www.zipcon.net/~silas/links.htm
Scott's 1839 until Hardee's was published in 1855. Then Casey's in 1863 for Union. Hardee released a modified version in 1861 for Confederate forces as he joined that side. Then there is Gilham's on the Confederate side as well. It depends on what impression you are trying to do and more importantly what rifle/musket you have. Older drills are based around longer muskets like the 1942 and 1847 Springield and require a lot of leaning at an angle. Confederates use a lot of surplus weaponry so older drill techniques still applied. Union forces had newer and slightly shorter rifles like the .58 cal 1861 Springfield and more of the drill is straight out in front with the piece vertical. Trying to do Casey's with an 1842 can be challenging but its possible. Doing any drill with a shorter piece is not as difficult.
Bully!
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