Zoe Gardner Migration Researcher Destroys Tory And Labour Policies!
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- Migration Researcher, Zoe Gardner, spoke to Sky News following Keir Starmer's plan to deal with the small boat crossings. Labour have called the Rwanda Bill a gimmick, but Zoe said their's doesn't really resolve the problem.
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The lack of safe routes is signalling the lack of concern about people dying.
Histrionic nonsense!. It's a gravy train set up by N.G.O's.
95% of immigrants arrive through these safe routes that "don't exist".
No, it's signaling their refusal to recognize the UK HAS triggered this tsunami the very day it colonized. Those people come from the UK former colonies NOT the the French ones, whose people go to ... France ... surprise, surprise ????
Which is one of colonialism basis ....
Zoe Gardner is a superstar, cool, calm, articulate
Useless and totally ineffective ...
@@TonThonFraisdEau Informed but powerless
@@dapfordvondappington8306 Wondering if it's not on purpose ...
@@TonThonFraisdEau If what is on purpose?
@@dapfordvondappington8306 To be powerless ....her strange "explanation" of immigration she refuses to link to its root cause which is colonialism by the UK itself is self-defeating....
She is such an amazing human
Useless ... incapable (or unwilling) of pointing at colonization as the root cause of immigration ... She believes immigration is due to the smugglers who seem to have this uncanny ability to force people into their boats ...
I’ve never heard an explanation for why the British expect the French to stop people that they don’t particularly want, who don’t particularly want to be in France, from leaving? When France are already taking in far more asylum seekers every year.
They have to take unlimited numbers, being in the EU and in bed with Germany. We opted out of this.
It turns out that “Taking Back Control!” actually translates to “We Want The French To Do Our Job For Us!”
Safe routes were on the table, tories laughed and walked off, they actively chose to push people into going via the small boats route to create their own rhetoric that immigrants are bad and that the tory party is "the good guy" for stopping them coming over, when the simple fact is, they could have been "the goody guy" by implementing an intelligent system of safe routing that would have worked, and would have made them look actually good, but no, rwanda, half a billion quid, one person, many deaths, all blood on the tories hands...
Right out of the tRUMP playbook too. Don't fix the border so they can run on it as they have nothing else after 14 years. Like the Republicans have nothing to show either. Using them for political point scoring. Despicable and cruel. But these are the same people supporting Israel.
The immigrants come from YOUR former colonies, NOT the French ones. The migrants to France come from THEIR former colonies ... Never noticed ????
Why would anyone want to stay in France. Most Tories have villas in the South....
I have 3 villas and 5 apartments in the Sarfer Frarnce. I'll be voting ABC (Anything But Conservative)🇨🇵🇪🇺. 😊
Why do the British think they should be exempt from having to deal with the plight of asylum seekers?
It's a small minority but a very very loud, obnoxious and annoying minority.
Surly they have the right to control who enters their country, everyone else needs a passport or visa
@readesiun988 but assylum seekers don't need a passport or visa. How are you reasonably expected to get a passport from the very government who might torture or kill you? Some countries don't have functioning public services, in Afghanistan for example, you can't get a passport. That right of entry without such documents is enshrined in international law for very sound reasons.
@@Richard1A2Bthe current asylum system is broken and open to all kinds of abuse. It should be abolished and rewritten for modern day purposes.
Don't tar us all with the same brush.
Credit to Zoe for calling it out ! 👏👏👏
Pity it falls on deaf ears though.
@@audreymcgready4329 because you Brits REFUSE to face your colonial past and neo-colonial present ... they come from YOUR colonies just like migrants to France come from THEIR colonies ....
Brexiters should paint on the Dover's cliffs what Nigel Lawson (chair of the Vote Leave campaign) once said « I love Europe. That’s why I live in France. »
Boat people:😳🤔
It's beyond pathetic that the conversation is almost exclusively about how hard we can be on innocent people, rather than how we can help them. Same with people with disabilities, illnesses and/or those who are out of work. Just performative cruelty dick measuring between the Tories and Blue Labour, cheered on by our corrupt, complicit media. Why can't we have a compassionate discussion on how best to help those who most need help? It's what adults would and should do.
if anything it's acting as a deterrent to vote for tories
Processing centres in France FFS! Why is that so unacceptable? Is it because it would create a solution that provides no political capital for the Tories?
Ok, then you still have no clue of the root cause of immigration ... really ??? The smugglers maybe ???? Thx God they exist so that you can blame them .. right ??? What about YOU having colonized ... and made those migrants speak English and know the British system when the migrants to France come from THEIR colonies and speak French (which the French "taught" them by the machine guns .. like you actually ...not by linguistic contest between Shakespeare and Moliere ..., right ??? ... )
The French offered us this option but the Tories refused on the grounds that they didn't want to be seen to be cooperating with an EU member state as it went completely against their Brexit mantra.
@@alwayscasesensitive Therefore Sovereignty and International Cooperation are not compatible....for this view or Sovereignty....
@@TonThonFraisdEau Not true, the UK always had sovereignty before we left the EU. The pro-Brexit team managed to convince the British public that we did not.
@@alwayscasesensitive "The pro-Brexit team managed to convince the British public that we did not." How was that possible ?? What did they do for that to work ? What didn't do the remain campaign to loose ? Not answering such questions is basically saying that the Holy Spirit was in command and still is and there is nothing to be done ... Is that a political program for the Left ?
Threat of being deported to Rwanda was never going to stop the small boats, in the same way that the death sentence didn’t stop murder or serious crime.
Glad you are making the comparison of criminals to .....errrr.....criminals....
I agree, but feck dont give this lot any more screwed up ideas
Being an asylum seeker does not make you a criminal.
But then you knew that @@tomwinterbourne
@tomwinterbourne, they were making a point about cause and effect (in this case, no effect), and you just saw the word murders and ran with oh their criminals too.
Not very serious, are you.
Zoe Gardner A Voice of Reason ❤
If you want to end smuggling and stop the deaths you open a consulate in Calais and accept asylum claims there. Then the refugees cross to Dover on a large safe boat (or save a few quid and go on a ro-ro-ro ferry owned by a Tory doner, usually they don’t capsize). No more people smuggling (who is going to pay £2000 to go on an overcrowded rib, when SNCF will take you for £30) and far fewer people drowned.
Ok, that's fine. Should we have a cap on the number we take though say ... 2 million? where do they live ...etc or maybe we should lobby for an extra 2p on the basic rate of income tax to massively enlarge our infrastructure ?
But Labour ARE proposing safe routes, and working on the backlog, as well as processing in France.
... Where did Starmer say they would introduce new safe ways to access the asylum system?
Well said Zoe and Max
Zoe Gardner is the first person I've heard who articulates what I've been banging on about for ages. The obvious tactic, used by Big Business everywhere when muscling in on a market, is to undercut the small independents and render them unprofitable. You might assume that this not-very-radical notion might have occurred to someone among the horde of careerist MPs. Or are the Tories, and neo-Tories, so devoid of competence that they've forgotten what they must surely have been told sometime in their "education"?
Zoe is in the perfect job. She is so good.
Esther Mckvay should hire this lady as she actually has common sense!
How utterly awful things must be for people if they actually want to go (voluntarily) and live in Britain. The expression 'out of the frying pan.....' comes to mind.
Zoe Gardner is a hero
Zoe nails it ❤
I thought this was a Ben Shapirio thumbnail for a split second. Zoe Gardener DESTROYS everyone !!
You need to watch Andrew Neil destroy Ben Shapario
Absolutely Spot on Well said Zoe ❤
She'll not be invited back then! No way she was saying what people in power want to hear.
You need paperwork to import a cabbage from France but not a person, worlds gone mad.
You don't need paper work for a lettuce!
Nobody who doesn't consume British media has any knowledge of the Rwanda Bill, and how big the bill is. 😮
Rwanda Bill is not new .. it's in the wake of COLONIZATION by YOU and a repetition of it ...
well said Zoe
Safe routes are the only way to go. France has offered to allow an immigration centre on French soil before. People are drowning in the Channel, these are desperate people who will not stop trying.
Then you have NO clue why Tories today and Labor tomorrow will REFUSE to implement any ??? Whooaaa ... Doesn't COLONIZATION ring any bell as root cause of immigration ??? And the UK people are therefore complaining about what THEY are responsible of ??? What's the heck ????
I have addressed the question of to what extent we should process people in France here ruclips.net/video/R4qxrqQ2aXE/видео.html
Here in Antwerp there was a square known for small drug sellers operating night and day, so, the city decided to clamp down hard on them. Withing a week there were no more street corner sellers and the square calmed down. Except, no arrests were made as the dealers moved to a square a few streets down the road to do their business there. The former square was clean, but a square that never had a drug problem before now had to deal with the newly arrived business and the loitering that came with it. Getting a taskforce to clean-up an area doesn't result in the "problem" going away, it simply relocates the "problem".
Advocating open door immigration isn't "destroying" anything, it's madness.
And that's a strawman argument. Nobody is advocating unrestricted immigration where anyone can simply come and stay. They are advocating for safe official routes and efficient processing, which yes also means those who are found not to have valid grounds for claiming refugee status will be swiftly deported.
Open door was invented by YOU the colonialists ... in time of the British Empire, YOU destroyed the borders ... and you imposed some only to find a way to maintain inequality. of rights between you and the people YOU colonized.. When they had NO rights .. you had NO problem with Open Border ... Do NOT complain about immigration because YOU triggered it by colonizing and refusing to decolonize which was imposed to you, never got your backing ... All your stuff is to establish colonial practices of deprivation of Rights against the people YOU colonized you get them BACK to that state .. Shame on you ... colonialist ...
I hate to tell you, but we're having this conversation because deterrence and closed borders have failed. What's madness is to keep doing the same thing in response to a situation where tens of thousands are forced to defy the situation every year and many hundreds die.
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 You have NO control over how many come as it is a consequence of what YOU, the UK did when colonizing ... The largest group of undocumented people in the UK is Indians, in France it's NOT, it's the Malians ... And you still don't see why ??? Neuronal connectivity issues ???
Not to mention the fact that we need immigrants.
Oh wow. I want to hear Farage on this one!
How many ?
Well done zoe the people in power dont give a shit about anbody but themselvs
It really does not matter what she says, we are at a point where facts no longer matter and too many people in this country have internalised a deep level of entitlement. She actually touches on this in the interview, and that's the fact that these people will be entering the country regardless, and if you look at Britain's (amongst others) impact in places like the middle east, especially Afghanistan, you can see why we have so many people coming over here. That isn't including generational migration that has seen small clusters of culture build up, making it a refuge for those who do want a better life.
The people have a right to be upset about immigration, it is uncontrollable, unsustainable and does need review, but the anger has successfully been shifted away from the Tories (Theresa May, austerity cuts) who made these routes inoperable and the .1% who leveraged these places in their favour. Now we're at an apex where absolutes are being introduced, when the problem would have been alleviated years ago if those cuts to the civil service weren't made, that's discounting Brexit.
That will never be admitted though, as reopening safe routes would now be political suicide for the Tories and Labour (who I hope do invest in processing and routes). Whereas the client press has done everything it can to pick out select cases of migrant crime cases to rally support against those people. It's even given Reform UK a genuine opening; a business that has no actual answers to immigration, is a neoliberal group that is there to further austerity and tax cuts, and has no experts in anything they are so passionate about tackling.
People need to go out and speak to these migrants, you get a way better understanding of their perception of Britain, why they are actually fleeing and the scary lengths they go through. But that just gets shot down by people who will use the opinions of right wing media pundits rather than the actual humans involved.
That proud mic drop moment/stare directly into the camera @3:05 says it all
Creating safe routes does not mean more people come. It would mean everyone's case can be seen and dealt with, maybe even before they travel, and those with a valid claim stay. As it is, arrivals on small boats have no processing and stay anyway. So what is to lose by opening safe, legal routes? The only people against it are tacitly racist who just don't want anyone because they are foreign.
Why would the Rwanda policy make any difference? There's a million legal reasons to avoid deportation, and in a few months it will probably be scrapped.
She is making sense. But this detracts from the Tory way!
Why oh why are they having this woman on tv spouting rational thought
Surely they could have selected a “common sense” politician with no knowledge or insight into the situation To spout Finnish like they usually do.
All of this is true. Add in though that actual criminals have an easy wide open door to gain access to the uk! We need a proper asylum policy for genuine refugees including criminal checks and a system to integrate
If you had 22 deaths at a football match, there would be a retired judge spending 2 years doing a full report and numerous recommendations to prevent the tragedy happening again.
As it’s government policy to put lives at risk consistently it seems Sunak & co, couldn’t give a shit.
It's rare in this day and age that you get a woman(sorry don't mean to sound sexist) who properly carries or carries at all the vital attributes of common sense empathy on top of beauty and she IS a combination of all 3!
Why would anyone want to come to Britain? From one "Tin Pot Dictatorship" into another? I'm thinking of emigrating to North Korea. At least there I would know I was being shafted!
If the migrants aren’t deterred by the risk of dying in the channel, why would they be deterred by the tiny risk of being sent to Rwanda ? The problem is that providing ‘safe routes’ would bring many more and they can’t subsequently be deported in any significant numbers if declined refugee statue. It’s a new reality - mass uncontrollable migration from the multitudes of trouble spots in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.
She is brilliant.
However, I do think it is a good idea to chase down the traffickers as well. I agree we need to open legal routes and have centres where people can be processed quickly and humanely. I also think the larger problem that is heading our way, with mass migration, is going to take a lot of control. When people are hungry and desperate, they will move.
Also, there are wars raging around us and there's a possibility it will get worse, before it gets better.
Just my thoughts.
If Ukraine looses the war there will be 10 more million refugees in the EU. Same goes for Gaza. Palestinians will try to get out and who can blame them.
Neither party wants to remove the business model, rather, they want to act out cruelty to the electorate. Is the electorate impressed by that? I hope not, but I fear that they are.
Wait to see what Labour does before criticism based on hypotheticals
It seems that Starmer wants to turn Labour into the Conservative Party 2.0 - just when public opinion about the important issues (cost of living, NHS waiting lists, housing crisis, etc) would support more progessive policies. But Starmer is *determined* to pull in votes from former Tory voters, *regardless* of public opinion in general.
* Hence the tough rhetoric from him and Streeting about the NHS
* Hence the tough rhetoric concerning asylum seekers
* Hence the tough thetoric from Rachel Reeves about people on benefits
Personally, I think Labour will lose a certain percentage of the vote share because of their stance, and they'll lose it either to the Lib Dems or to the Green Party, to Plaid Cymru in Wales and to the SNP in Scotland.
Of course, Labour are going to win the next election - but NOT because people are falling over themselves to vote for Starmer, but because people just want the Tories gone.
Spot on Max
Don't we have to take a refugee from Rwanda in return?
Yup. Provide a proper process before the refugees arrive at the sea.
Aussification of the UK continues. Murdoch empire, no10 right wing advisors and now stop the boats. The next playbook by the government is to put all defence forces on NDA’s. And then to make talking about operations around the boats a matter of national security. So it’s out of sight and mind and no one talks about whilst defence force personnel need counselling to deal with mental health issues of seeing kids overboard etc
Talking of common sense, where is Esther McVey these days?
Haha, I spoke too soon.
Pre treasa may, assylum system cost 300 million per year, and works. No hotels.
That witch has much to answer for
With Labours new policy i think we are in a place where a sizeable number of the electorate wish to 'stop the boats' or support policies of this flavour. Some may support more hard roght policies and others may support softer versions of such policies.
I think those on the Left (socialists, momentum etc) will need to come to a place of acceptance that support for varying degrees of 'stop the boats' type policies isn't going away and is on fact, here to stay for the long haul.
For as much as some people call Starmer a flip flopper or red tory in disguise, if he wishes to be electable, he has done the right thing by addressing concerns with Labours own policy platform on the issue
This just goes on & on & on. Just give the proper entry route like the Rishi's, & the rest of the immigrnt government used & then do your sodding job Home Office.
Why all this concentration on small boats? Could it be a way of making the government look like its doing something? The people on the boats, like the rest of us, are used as political currency. This is and always have other ways of getting here. One being lorries that people have suffocated in on the way here. As well as being hard on trafficars how about doing more about people that exploit these people once they obtain legal status to live in the country? Going after churches for going to help these people is wrong. No body wants to really solve this issue. They know the real answers wont be popular with some elements of the public. The irony now is we are finding out now that we have left Europe. All the places we want to visit for holidays. Dont want us. We go to this places show little respect for the locals their culture and want turn every where into Blackpool by the sea. Causing exactly the same problems to others as we complain about here. One being a lack of housing for people from these. The reason being that there is major investment in hotel developments that are pushing local people out of their own country. We are not universally loved. If we are not careful we will find our self isolated from the countries around us. As it is Brexit has opened the door for other countries to show what they really think of us. They dont like us never have put up with us for our money. Now they cant even be bothered to do that.
I dont think those who wanted Britain for the British meant that should happen because those around us hate us and want nothing to do with us.
You dont erase the business model by creating a safe route, you create a safe route by creating a safe route.
You erase the business model by creating conditions in the departure countries conducive to staying put.
We DONT have that, we have less prosperous countries turning a blind eye to departures because its economically viable to do so.
CHANGE THAT and watch what happens.....
Its amazing, the global government aparatus has never been bigger and simeltaneously more completely incapable of achieving anything successful or enduring.
Almost as if it completely disregards relevant information out of pure hubris.
Surely not..........🤷🏼
The Tories need the small boats to continue stoking division and hatred, and to continue to throw red meat to the extreme right of the party, at least those who haven’t gone over to Reflux UK, the bile that keeps on regurgitating
What we should be doing is helping with problems these people have at home so they don't need to leave .
We tried to - our efforts were rejected in Iraq and Afghanistan etc. We aren't responsible for people from Africa
It's largely down to the "help" Britain, and the other colonial powers, have provided in these regions that there are refugees in the first place. Then, when the shit hits the fan because the lines drawn on the maps without a thought given to the people separated or shoved together by those lines, the old gang comes together again and bombs them back to the stone age, creating yet more refugees.
After all that, providing asylum to the ones who have had to flee is the least Britain can do. Indeed, if Britain really took their fair share of the refugees they have created, then most of the rest of Europe would have quite manageable numbers of refugees to deal with...
The way to stop the small boats is to put everyone on a ferry, register them and start their asylum claims before the ferry docks. And you don't have to dock it Dover.
Perhaps continue straight to NI?
Labour is against smugglers tackling the gangs let's see what Labours plans are before we rush to speculation they may offer safe routes they have said they will go into motivate discussions with the French Government..
I hear what you are saying and I 💯 agree with you..
We must have safe journey routes..😊
Safe journey routes means avoiding crossing the med in the first place. We should be like the USA.
Give the job of processing asylum to the foreign office. Then send foreign office staff out to the refugee camps thousands of miles away.
Those who pass can be flown safely to the UK from the nearest airport.,
…..and then we can tell those who arrive by irregular means that they are queue jumpers. And fly them back to start of the queue.
Ireland migrants move there before the Eu change to new boarder control ?
Rwanda policy is a waste of money. But how many is too many, you never say. We aren't responsible for feeding and housing the world no matter who is in government.
The question should be: Why would anyone flee to the UK? Is it a scam? I cannot imagine why anyone would flee from or via Europe to the UK. This has to be a scam?
Give it time and we ill be meeting them on the shore to get the boats from them so we can leave.
not really, if you family here or speak english u have better chance of getting settled and getting work as u know the language. its not rocket science. if u dont speak french u would keep going till u get to uk or ireland
Yes. It’s the English language and family or friends. Snowball effect.
You know for some strange historical reason, a lot of people around the world speak English and have communities here.
@@Mozart69938 Bullsh*t and you know it. It's the welfare allowances, mobile phone, pocket money, hotel rooms that they come for, something you don't get in France and something that the Irish government are looking to curb as we speak
people are more concerned about low wages than this repeat rubbish every day on News
Two observations.
1.Why is Ms Gardner allowed so little screen time? She was only there for barely half a minute before the presenter is shutting her down with the old 'sorry we are stretched for time' nonsense?
2. Why does the presenter very swiftly mention Labour's potential future immigration plans, and thus their relevance to Zoe's comments, first and foremost? Does the presenter not know who is at present supposedly 'running' the country? Does he not understand that it's the Terrible Tories who are in power and currently shaping and (over)funding anti-immigration policy and procedure?
Labour's potential future plans may not stop the deaths of innocent people, and that's of course very important, it goes without saying - but, eh, who is now, at this present moment, responsible for the deaths this year, and last year, and the year before, of asylum seekers in small boats? Labour aren't even in power yet for heaven's sake...jeez louise
They need to open safe routes to apply for asylum in France so there is no need to cross the channel but neither the Tories no Labour seem to get it, oh and it will save johnny tax payer millions of pounds.
MARRY ME
Both big UK parties and the economic system in general are ill prepared for the world that is to come, in terms of climate and technological impacts on work and the creation of value.
The UK needs to work very closely with the EU for reducing refugees coming into the EU. The EU is just a stop gap for English speakers and people with family ties or friends in ten UK.
Great idea, lets just let everyone in the world move to the UK and tax the British citizens to pay for it all, why did no one ever think of that before, fantastic.
Dont worry. Germany owns this franchise. The UK is importing the legal ones now that they are not coming from ten EU countries.
Yet again just more proof that Tories and Labour are really no different these days, empathy and compassion don't get votes so gimmicks and tough stances are the parties capital to win votes.
She is the best of humans
Put them on ferry to Ireland.
“That’s interesting.” It really strikes me how blasé the presenter is about a sharp increase in the number of human beings dying trying to make it to Britain. I don’t know what I should expect, but it’s hard to see such little care.
Does Max just copy James O’Brien??? I’d like to think it’s the other way round.
I doubt very much James is aware of his existence
Common sense usually is pretty similar.
Surely the left should be challenging so called ‘common sense thinking’: Norman Fairclough.
If that's what you think you are obviously new here???.
Max has his own mouth, mind and opinions which match many of us.
they shouldn't be coming to France or the uk illegally anyway full stop
And they are NOT coming 'illegally'. When will people like you stop parroting that. Under international law (refugee convention) anyone has the right to claim asylum in ANY country of their choice (no it doesn't have to be 'the first safe one' else countries bordering war zones would be completely overrun) REGARDLESS of the manner of their arrival. The only way an immigrant is 'illegal' is if A) he does not present himself to the proper authorities on arrival, B) his claim was rejected and he disappears to avoid deportation or C) he overstayed a visa. Merely arriving somewhere is entirely LEGAL.
Let's not forget that those travelling here are ECONOMIC migrants who travel through many safe countries to get here.
If they choose to risk their lives and those of their families then that's on them, as grim as that is. I don't see why it's the responsibility of France, the UK or any other country to ensure their safety and pay for deportation.
Maybe if the routes become more unsafe that's enough of a deterrent to reduce the number of people trying.
You lost me at "Let the refugee kids drown." When you're blind to the innocence of children, then you've lost your humanity. Victim blaming is utter morally repugnant. If you've somehow managed to breed, you should have your kids taken away for their own safety.
@@b62boom1The adults made the decision to come here in a flimsy boat, if their children drowned in the process then that’s on them, nothing to do with us. We all have responsibilities for the actions we take and the consequences that follow. As sad as it is, play stupid games = win stupid prizes.
Well as things stand we can do with a few economic migrants. I don't currently see Brits falling over themselves to pick strawberries in the fields of Kent or enter the care or hospitality sector where you work exhausting hours for slave wages. And this country is short of labour in all these jobs.
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 The reason Brits won’t do the work is because of poor pay, it simply isn’t enough to cover the bills. Rather than rely purely on cheap labour, perhaps try paying better money to Brits to make it a job worthwhile.
Kid starver,commander in chief
Mr no moral compass. Bought and paid for already.
Nobody is forcing these immigrants into the boats. They know the risks.
Vile, heartless, callous English"man". Are you still selling bombs to murderous regimes and waging illegal wars?
Actually the UK does by removing any other options for asking asylum.
@abbofun9022 I've never heard of anybody from the UK standing on French beaches pushing them into plakky boats against their will. They choose to do so. If you were so desperate to leave your country 8000 miles away, why risk your life on a boat crossing after 7950 miles, to get to a country that doesn't want you?
And you wouldn't do the same if the shoe was on the other foot?. I know i would. Stay out of their countries and stop the wars.
And nobody would force your loved ones to stop a car or knock on a door if they were in dire need of help- They know the risks.
Her solution is a safe route....OK care to explain what that is? A points based system maybe 😂
Processing centre in France like the French offered. Do try to pay attention.
@@audreymcgready4329 Sounds perfect....points based processing centre?
@@tomwinterbourne Zero points for you troll.
@@audreymcgready4329 Ok, that's fine. Should we have a cap on the number we take though say ... 2 million? where do they live ...etc or maybe we should lobby for an extra 2p on the basic rate of income tax to massively enlarge our infrastructure ?
Zoe is amazing
Zoe and others may keep talking about "safe routes", but that isn't the issue for people who don't want immigration at all. They don't want safe routes, they want zero asylum seekers.
The public is increasingly going against asylum seekers and immigration (yes, even more liberals and left-leaning people) as they are struggling and poverty levels are increasing. They don't want their money going to anything else but their own communities and people born in the UK. Immigration will continue to grow as an unpopular thing, and it is no surprise Labour and other political parties are starting to move towards being hostile towards this sort of stuff, as they will say what the general public feel.
Remember, over 52% of the UK population want immigration to reduce significantly, and a further 32% think immigration is a "bad thing" for the UK. Those are official poll statements. The UK does not want more immigration and would prefer these kinds of "accepting" politics would go away. You can expect politics in the UK to start going more against immigration, even from parties who aren't right-wing. It is the same sentiment that is starting to sweep across Europe too.,
Then I guess the UK needs to leave the UN and all the other organizations it has treaties with regarding human rights, the rights of refugees to seek asylum, the duty towards people in danger on the seas etc. It will have a few follow-on effects to do so, since membership and having signed those treaties underpins many other memberships and treaties, the end of which will affect the UK's commercial relationships around the world.
It can be done, and I have often said that I suspect that many xenophobic Brits' ultimate goal is Pyongyang on the Thames and following the principles of Juche.
Max, you talk too much common sense.