2011 Mavs and 1995 Rockets were the two best championship runs of all time IMO in terms of the caliber of teams that they had to beat to win the title.
@@imissedthejokedummy4550 no sir. Usually when I hear that it's in regards to the 60s greats like Wilt and Russell. And that isn't even true, blue collar workers were only common in the first five years of the league (1948 to the early fifties)
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
@@Manu-qq2im that's not the point, he means this series was proves he isn't goat because of his abysmal performance. How quickly people forget that LeBron was on a superteam himself and wasn't always carrying his teams.
@@iamandres618 first of vince Carter wasnt on this team and kidd was 39 pushing 40 lmao another thing caron our 3rd option avg 19 a game tore his acl during the regular season and we still won
I was at some of these finals games in Dallas. I’ve been in football stadiums, soccer stadiums, SEC football stadiums. That Mavs crowd during that series was absolutely magical.
+dceltics24 Yeah but LeBron carried this heat team vs the celtics and Bulls. Wade was a non factor in the bulls series. They took turns in the playoffs.
+bitchasshoeism 1 could argue that the big 3 got them to the finals. wade/bron were big against boston & bron/bosh was big against the bulls. Everyone had big games & disappeared in this playoff run. But when they got to the finals it was no excuse for a guy in his prime to disappear like bron did
TheDonkeyFLOPPER nah that mavs team had no one to guard dwade. Too easy to drive to the rim. Can’t stop him, foul him. This series proved you that Mavs can’t stop dwade.
@@jadenharris1779 I never heard Skip Bayless say Bird was better than LBJ. You know that the NBA has had a lot of great players, right? I'm sorry, I should've said that it was my opinion. Larry Bird was a freaking beast
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
@CODE92818 No single NBA player COULD EVER BE THE Greatest (player) Of All Time... He has already been passed by LeBron, btw... In most every stat imaginable... The ONLY WAY to call Jordan-- would be the Best Point Guard / Shooting Guard of his ERA....
if it wasnt for dwade carrying lebrick, they wouldve lost in 5. 8 points in a game? avg 2pts in the 4th qauters of the series? fantastic announcing by breen
gor9027 nah more like dallas shut his ass down and stepped up and made bigger plays, which is to dallas' credit. they made that the worst performance of lebrons career
@Keyboard Legend yeah thats true, i just hate when people try and say lebron not scoring in the clutch as a way to diminish what dirk and dallas stepped up in the finals and did...they earned that win, it was not because james n co. choked.
@@gmail9384 Lebron is an all time great player and was in his prime. Mavs had a great defensive game plan but its not like they are the best defense of all time. Lebron this series was just horrible and choked.
Jamal Greasy wtf are you talking about? 😂 you mention leading stats for Bosh but not for LeBron? LeBron had the most pts, rbs, ast in Miami 2012-2013 Finals and was their best defender. good try.
Carried them to a lost bro?? Ive never heard someone carrying someone in a series they lost. Lol. Now i agree just might want say it like " wades the single reason they even lasted 6 games in this series "
X02Overdose that 2006 finals Dallas should have won that, and those 97 free throw was just ridiculous, yes Avery didn't make adjustments but the refs clearly help that series for Wade.
+Chartis S lebron was healthy and scored 8 points....2 in the 4th 3-11 shooting ...dirk sick and injured and hobbled scored 21 and got 11 rebs....lebron played 45 minutes??????...had miami just not played him late they win or bibby...mike miller james jones eddie house juwan howard mario chamlers joel anthony udonis haslem were all playing just fine...wade and bosh were great
Everyone was just wanting to hand the trophy to Lebron & Co. and anoint them before game one was even played. How many Lebron foot-kissers over at ESPN had to have ulcers after this game thinking "THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN." Then two games later, they had to be beyond sick to their stomachs to see Dirk and the Mavs being handed what was supposed to be Lebron's trophy. It was just beautiful to see Lebron, Wade and ESPN hoisted on their own petard with how this championship turned out.
As the old saying goes. The man who's wiling to take the most blows.to the face and gets up is going to win...DIRK is my hero. Never underestimate the heart of a champion
This was an entertaining series as you have 3 all stars and a decent system around them against 1 all-star future Hof and a decent system around him. Series like this drove me to become more intrigued into the NBA
LeBron got outplayed in an NBA Finals...by Jason Terry. This ended the G.O.A.T. debate. Period. MJ would have absolutely never. And anyone who was privileged to watch him play knows this. He would've never been the reason his team lost. Not like this.
He didn't actually get outplayed by Terry though. They both averaged 18 ppg and LeBron does a lot more than scoring, while Terry is basically only scoring. LeBron did get soundly outplayed by the duo of Kidd and Marion. Terry erases what the Heat got from Bosh. Dirk erases Wade's scoring. Then it's a big advantage to Dallas with the remaining rosters.
DWade almost finished his career with 4 rings and 2 finals MVPs despite chronic Penny Hardaway and Tracy McGrady type of injuries. Put that into perspective. He almost delivered a Kobeesque championship resume with BAD KNEES. If LeBron scores 13 instead of 8 this game, they win this series in 6 and Wade’s finals MVP. If Wade could have had 4 rings and two finals MVPs WITH injuries, imagine what he could have had WITHOUT injuries. Those Shaq years. That would have been two rings instead of one. And the LeBron years, 4 instead of 2. He’d probably have 6 rings with 3 or 4 finals MVPs. And I’m not hyping. DWade was that good for it when it mattered most. He’d be second to Jordan not including centers (since they’re hard to rank). I think if people just think about this, they’d admit that he’s the closest in terms of overall ability to Jordan.
When LeBronda & Wanda were mocking Dirk’s cold/cough in a press conference it made my blood boil. So childish and disrespectful, no class. Dirk was right to walk into the locker room in game 6 and not shake their hands.
Lebron was able to sabotage his offense through 3 quarters but when Miami took a 9 point lead to start the fourth, you see how obviously he stopped played defense, and doing nothing on offense.
Marvin Garcia bro ur 10x right. i just dont get why bron is compared to either kobe or mj or magic. three goats three well respected legendsnd have i seen him get dunked on ty chandler 2
stupidnamewaster stated facts "sounds retarded" now. chillax... say what you gotta say only has to be facts. my guy the man is a good physical/power player but not on their level yet. unless he willing to put the time and be determined to do by any means necessarily, I don't seen him close to them. that's just me being honest with u
Yusuf Al-Quran Ali No facts you're just saying the same annoying repeated meaningless crap K obe fans always repeat over and over and over and over. All Kobe fans come up with is rings and "killer instinct". First year back in CLE Lebron lead the worst franchise in the NBA back to the Finals and would of won it too if it wasn't for a couple bad timed injuries, Lebron haters stupid as hell.
stupidnamewaster what type of injuries does bron ever had. cavs were already built before he came. why not win them before going to dwade and bringing bosh over and miller,ray all those roster.
Yusuf Al-Quran Ali LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO are you mental?!? You mean that terrible 2010 cavs roster that lost to the Celtic Underdogs? It was like if Durant had to play on the Thunder without Westbrick. You'd have nothing. LOL He is right though. If the Cavs weren't injured they would had won the entire thing for sure. I don't get what Kobe did that makes him below LeBron. His clutch record is shite, he shoots like 40 shots per game and isn't even 500. Kobe was part of that early 2000 laker dynasty but he didn't carry it. Shaq did. Plus the fact that he elbowed Bibby when they were up by like 1. If the ref called that he would had lost the game for their team with a FLAGRANT FOUL. LOOOOOL. Stop sucking Kobe dick and pay attention to the real world.
Ahmad2423 -the 2011 finals were completely rigged and Lebron was in on it. Miami was up 2-1 and Lebron threw the game in game 4. He only scored 8 points and they only lost by three. The league has been rigged since Michael Jordan came onto the scene
Ahmad2423 it's obvious bro, Lebron never attacked the defense, kept passing the ball, not playing defense at all, unforced turnovers. Miami had the most talented team in the league and were by far better than the Mavericks. Lebron had torched the best defense in the world (bulls) in the conference finals and somehow doesn't attack the Mavericks defense. It was completely rigged. All of the fouls the Mavericks got. Mark Cuban: "if people found out what happens in NBA boardrooms then fans would never look at NBA games the same. Before the 2011 finals I learned to play it the right way." It all started with Michael Jordan. His career has been scripted since 1989.
CR7 GOAT I hear ya but I'm not buying it. I saw player at that particular time in his career who didn't know anything about winning. Once he learned how to play his best in the pressure moments. He became the Lebron that we see today...I just found it funny that every time Lebron lose. Well it was rigged, And the way Jordan dominated well that was rigged as well...It's all Bullshit IMO!
My favorite sports conspiracy theory is that LeBron took a dive in this game knowing that if the Heat won, Wade was going to win Finals MVP. People forget that at the time Wade was considered to be in the same class as LeBron, and no one thought the second half of his career would be ruined by injuries. Wade being considered the best player on the Heat, and therefore the best player in the league, would have arguably damaged LeBron’s case for passing Jordan more than them losing the series.
Some guy above said that the heat wasn't a stacked team. Some guys said that this wasn't a bad game because LeBron nearly had a triple double, some even said that the Mavs we're a better team overall, forget it man, you can't never win an argument with unreasonable people
The Lebron James Hate Channel it seemed like he did because when the game started Lebron didn't seem like himself at all. He barely took any shots, he didn't rebound, shoot or post up and he was literally in the corner the entire game. Idk I always thought that something was going through Lebrons head. But now that I look back, it looked way too sketchy for Lebron to ever do something like this, even if it was a regular season game.
The Lebron James Hate Channel by the way get a life. The fact that you would even have a channel with such a name is the most pathetic and repulsive thing I've seen in a human being
Funny how Brian Cardinal actually LOOKS like a plumber that MJ supposedly played against, but was on the winning side of an NBA Finals against prime LeBron. Heh.
You got to love that help defense from LeBROOM right at the 12:03 mark. He stared down Nowitzki in the hope to make him miss. DWade was not even in the picture initially but nearly got the block. LeBROOM was... oh welll... can't help that...
11:58 sums up the series for Lebron he didn't even attempt to step over to help stop Dirk from driving to the basket. Not even a fake step to see if Dirk would try pass it out to Terry and he could get a steal just for playing the passing lane. Lebron just stood there and watched smh. I guess he didn't like playing defense back then either
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
This run by Dirk was the greatest run I have ever seen by an NBA player. Sadly, it doens't get talked about because the media needs to slurp on Brons sack 24/7 and this makes him look bad.
@dollarbill6342 Also it's no coincidence that the Heat were also 0-2 against Dallas in the 2011 regular season and LeBron struggled badly in those games as well, averaging only 21 ppg on terrible 31% shooting.
BRONSEXUALS: "heat lost because wade couldnt control the pass to him on the last play and lost the ball. "lebron couldve shot the last shot to tie the game!!" LMFAOOO
+nomooon they were up 2-1 than Lebron stops playing and they still only lose by 3 in game 4. Than he continues to play average and they still barely lose the series. I cant explain it but i think he threw the series
If Lebron doesn't stop playing they win. He had to have an 8 point game and they still only lost by 3. This shit was rigged for Dallas. Lebron was in on it, just like how it was scripted in game 5 2014 were Lebron didnt play against Indiana and he only had 8 points again. But It would've hurt Lebrons legacy more if heat won and Wade won FMVP.
him and shaq were the stars not everybody else they were and tell me this how does a two time mvp not play defense not drive like he did in the Celtics and Philly series and pass up shots that he usually takes? cuz it was rigged if he drove it to the basket played defense and played bad that's choking not trying at all is not choking David stern told him to play like that because see how people still talk about it till this day even though he won three championships it brought ratings and made the league more money him "choking" was the biggest news that whole year it was everywhere look at the video again and tell me he was trying everybody expected them to win that's why everybody hated them so that would make them lose ratings because people already know who's gonna win but them losing was a better story than them winning see my point?
Just like 2006, the Mavs and the Heat have even the series @ 2 a piece after 4 games WHAT A GAME AND WHAT A SERIES Mike Miller went for 3 and AIR BALL! 💜 this Mavericks teams from 2011 2006 Heat over 2011 Heat and 2011 Mavericks over 2006 Mavericks
The block of chandler and layup between the two bigs is still one of my favorite D-Wade plays. People forget how dominant he was defensively. That's why I think he's the closest thing to MJ. Even though Kobe is better offensively D-Wade's all around game resembled Jordan's more.
This is the first time I rewatch this series since I first watched it in 2011. First, I'd like to say this was a loooong time ago. Second, I forgot how insanely passive LeBron was this series. Passing the ball while posting up J. Kidd?? 2012-17 LeBron would have a FIELD DAY with that. He looked so tentative to put up a shot. Sometimes I wonder if when he retires he can have a full conversation with someone about whether he was even there mentally. It really is inexcusable considering that that was CB and Wade's healthiest and probably best year out of the four. Had Lebron averaged even 24 pts we would be having an easier time to make his case as one of the greatest to play the game.
Nah. It’s all made up. Loook at his regular season stats vs Dallas and compare them to his Finals stats. THEY ARE THE SAME. What’s that mean? It means LBJ can’t plead insanity for this one. It wasn’t mental; he had a bad mat up vs Shawn Marion and an efficient offense that didn’t give easy transition opportunities. That’s it. Ppl act like ‘never happened before and never happened since!’ I would argue his 2010 meltdown vs Boston was just as bad; and two years after this he scored 7 points in an ECF loss!
Lebron got a triple single and 8 points and was getting torn apart by Jason Terry, and D Wade was working over time to get 32 points, and they lost by 3. Yeah, lebron lost the Heat this game.
This is better than playoffs this year,,nba sucks now cuz of blowout everyone shooting threes,, this kinda game is what people deserve to watch,, nowadays 20-50 point blowout lol
Bronsexuals are petitioning RUclips to delete this clip because it is embarrassing AF LMAO I can even score more than Lebum in this game! I can score 10 pts easy!
Lebron was the 3rd best player on this team, at best lmao and that is with the NBA favoring the fuk out of him his entire career. So embarrassing that people have actually been tricked into thinking he's even in the GOAT conversation
11:41 Lebron has the ball down 2 with 23 seconds left on the shot clock. Why are you passing to Wade in that situation? You can hold onto the ball and look for a good shot but you pass it all the way down court to wade who had 2 defenders close to him. Just doesn’t make sense.
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
@@ankletaker2729 not even CLOSE to the same thing as coming up this small and having a meltdown THIS SEVERE when you're IN YOUR PRIME WITH A SUPERTEAM vs losing in the first round the first 4 years of your career when you're not even in your prime and are in a franchise that is trying to rebuild and not looking to contend yet.... Oh, and that "NOBODY is THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, just greatest of that era bs is a politically correct way to protect lebron... I love LBJ, he's my third favorite player of all time after wade and zo but c'mon... Enough
DannyLlerenaTV cmon enough what? Teddy Atlas said it best. A true winner is determined by how he responds to adversity. LeBron going into 2011 didn’t know how to approach playing with D Wade & Chris Bosh. They’ve said this a million times, LeBron was being passive yes NOT because he didn’t want to shoot but because he FINALLY got his dream teammates & he didn’t know whether to take the game over or to be less aggressive because he now has help. Prior to 2011 NOBODY can ever say LeBron went out passive! WHY?! Because he knew he HAD to shoot a ton in order for those 2000s Cavs teams to even have a chance to win. This isn’t a KD situation where he all he had to do is Plug himself into a championship well oiled machine, no LeBron & the Heat had to figure it out in 1 season. Fair enough he STILL lost ok, he was PASSIVE ok, but what happened the next 3 years when Dwayne Wade literally came out & said that he told LeBron this is his team. Back 2 Back rings & a finals lost to the BEST spurs TEAM in their entire history, not the most talented but the BEST team! Back to Teddy Atlas, he said a competitor is determined by the adversity he faced & how he responds. He LITERALLY coached Mike Tyson & says Mike Tyson should never be considered the GOAT in boxing. WHY? Because he dominated EVERYONE he came in contact with until he had to face REAL monsters like George Foreman & Holyfield. Now remember it’s not necessarily about the greatness of your opponent but more so how DIFFICULT they make it on you to win. Sit here & show me ANYONE who has faced more stiff competition in the finals than LeBron? Nobody is even close. Show me someone who has had to deal with MULTIPLE injuries from his best teammates in the ENTIRE finals? Only a few players can relate. Let’s not even get started with LeBrons numbers because you know for a fact there is no competition
AnkleTaker 2 I absolutely hate the warriors but here it goes. 1.MJ’s peak numbers and stats are above lebron’s. 2. What player has lebron faced that’s as good as magic Johnson who in my opinion is #3 all time and was the runner up for mvp that season? 3. What player has lebron faced that’s as good as a prime Larry bird who is arguably 5th all time and could’ve very well been the goat? 4.Did you know that the late 90s Jazz used to trample shaq, kobe, Tim Duncan and those guys? 5. Did you know the bulls were considered the underdogs in the 98 finals and Jordan practically won that series alone because Rodman was useless against the mailman and Pippen went down? 6. What meltdowns has Jordan had that were anything close to lebrons 2010, 2011 and 2018 meltdowns? Jordan’s failures happened again as a young buck, lebron’s failures have happened in his prime and peak. I agree that it’s not just about the rings but you have to look at every scenario possible. I’m a lebron fan but point close he’s just not the goat, he has too many stains on his legacy... teammates and competition are not an excuse, and rings are NOT just a team accomplishment, this is basketball not football, 1 player can make THAT much of a difference just look at Kawhi, dirk, Hakeem and wade. I don’t knock him for losing to the warriors but at least have some integrity in game one of 2018. Yeah JR did something stupid and you have 50 points, but at least finish what you started, go down with honor and don’t quit on your team in overtime and then put a scarf on your hand after game 4 and claim you broke your hand...
DannyLlerenaTV m sorry bro but I stopped reading after I saw Larry Bird could’ve been the GOAT & when you said LeBron melted down in 2018 lmao like what basketball have you been watching? LeBrons teams have been the underdog 7 out of the 9 times they went to the finals & you wanna bring up the ONE time MJ was the underdog (which I have to fact check because there is NO WAY MJ stans would’ve had him as an underdog in ANY series). By the way I understand you can have an arguement as to magic being top 5 but bro don’t act like LeBron didn’t face Tim Duncan best PF of all time, Steph Curry top 2 PG of all time idc what anyone has to say. KD who in my opinion is a FAR better talent than Magic & Larry Bird & Dirk a top 25 player of all time. That’s not even mentioning players like Kawhi, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Draymknd Green, Kalyan’s Thompson. Which the first 3 are in pace to becoming top 20 players of all time or HIGHER (Depending on the amount of rings they get) by the time they retire. The competition isn’t close bro I don’t even know why it’s a conversation. Not to mention all the bums LeBron had as starters for THREEEEEE of his 9 finals & tell me if I’m wrong about that. 2007 TEam won 60+ games because LeBron was shouldering the offense & was at his Athletic PRIME 2015 he had Delly, Mozgov & JR as his 3 best players because of all the injuries 2018 his best teammates were Kevin Love, Jeff Green & Tristan Thompson
how can a decently functioning human being actually believe that a professional athlete wouldn't take the biggest stage of their profession seriously like how for one second can this actually be considered to be possible by anyone who is capable of tying their own shoes, feeding his/herself etc
Lebron's legendary 8 point performance
buto1118 and he's still more successful than you will ever hope to dream
buto1118 Ya..missing in action...what he is good at
Plus 9 rebounds, 7 assists, & 2 steals. Almost a triple double if he played harder
Mistah Unknown if he played harder maybe he wouldn’t have got killed in this series hahahahaha
@@keiv2211 bronsexual..🤔🤔
One of the best playoff runs in NBA history.
2011 Mavs and 1995 Rockets were the two best championship runs of all time IMO in terms of the caliber of teams that they had to beat to win the title.
People say Jordan played plumbers but Lebron got strapped up by an old Jason Kidd
Kobe is the goat
Who the hell says that? XD
Strapped up by jj barea
@@imissedthejokedummy4550 no sir. Usually when I hear that it's in regards to the 60s greats like Wilt and Russell. And that isn't even true, blue collar workers were only common in the first five years of the league (1948 to the early fifties)
James got embarrassed by plumbers
The series that forever ended the GOAT debate for an rational minded person.
Yeah Wilt Chamberlain still the GOAT, Hakeem's close though
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
PAOerful One lebron was not in the goat convo in this season. It started like in 2012 or 2013.
@@Manu-qq2im that's not the point, he means this series was proves he isn't goat because of his abysmal performance. How quickly people forget that LeBron was on a superteam himself and wasn't always carrying his teams.
@jocriss Demonstrate your bullshi* statement that I was being "Stupid" on with what I said... I'll await your reply here...
Dirk vs 3 all stars and two guaranteed HOFs in their prime, who won?
Oatmeal Guy are you stupid vince carter still played good back in 2011 and jason kidd played really good for a point
@delontey lebrick James daddy west Please stop, this is probably what you do all day.
@delontey lebrick James daddy west stfu weird ass.
@@iamandres618 first of vince Carter wasnt on this team and kidd was 39 pushing 40 lmao another thing caron our 3rd option avg 19 a game tore his acl during the regular season and we still won
Morganfreemanson Vince wasn’t on the team tho
Jason Kidd’s defense was so underrated in this series
I was at some of these finals games in Dallas.
I’ve been in football stadiums, soccer stadiums, SEC football stadiums. That Mavs crowd during that series was absolutely magical.
how easily people forget how dwade carried the heat this series if they would of won he would have 4 rings and 2 finals mvps
I agree with you
yeah wade will be finals 2x finals mvp if lebron did not sabotage this series
+dceltics24 Yeah but LeBron carried this heat team vs the celtics and Bulls. Wade was a non factor in the bulls series. They took turns in the playoffs.
+King James boston was a terror brought to them by both wade and bron
+bitchasshoeism 1 could argue that the big 3 got them to the finals. wade/bron were big against boston & bron/bosh was big against the bulls. Everyone had big games & disappeared in this playoff run. But when they got to the finals it was no excuse for a guy in his prime to disappear like bron did
"Can he guard Jason Terry" lmao 😅
MANCHESTER UNITED Man u? Then why you call it soccer? Its FOOTBALL. And always put in mind. america only cares in basketball.
@M no ones gives a f about soccer its boring
@Anastacio Calimag Jr he was like 40 at the time
@Anastacio Calimag Jr terry got the ring over lebron and avg more then him in that finals
Kobe couldn't guard Terry either
D-Wade showed shades of MJ in this series! Still in my mind the best of flash
go see 2006 for full mj mode
you mean full free throw mode?
refs handed the heat that series. mavericks were smoking them the first two games before the refs stepped in
i think 2008-09 might be his best but this series was great too. idk he really balled them 6 games lol idk you might be right
This was Wade's last superstar year. His knees were pretty shot after this finals series.
TheDonkeyFLOPPER nah that mavs team had no one to guard dwade. Too easy to drive to the rim. Can’t stop him, foul him. This series proved you that Mavs can’t stop dwade.
The mavericks had an incredible team that season, everyone stepped up, this finals and the 06 finals were so great
06 finals is one of the most blatantly obvious rigged Finals in NBA history, can't call that great.
@@allenxavier6073 nah wade was just too good
@@iwiwwh2002 you mean the refs are too good, I mean you already can't defend those when some refs already admitted on fixing games in the 2006 finals.
@@allenxavier6073 nah insane those highlights and he was called the flash for a reason
@@iwiwwh2002 okay, you watch highlights, I get it now.
“The Chosen One became The Frozen One” lmaooooo
Lmaoo facts 😂#Lechoke
@Jon Davis lebron good not great.
@@benjayflorencio7240 no. He's great, but not the GOAT. Not even better than Larry Bird 🐦
Night Mare he’s not better than Larry Bird? you watch to much Skip Bayless my friend
@@jadenharris1779 I never heard Skip Bayless say Bird was better than LBJ. You know that the NBA has had a lot of great players, right? I'm sorry, I should've said that it was my opinion. Larry Bird was a freaking beast
The famous triple single game for Lebron ...... you can't be goat when you put up a triple single in an nba finals game
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
Where the bronsexuals at..🤔🤔
@CODE92818 No single NBA player COULD EVER BE THE Greatest (player) Of All Time... He has already been passed by LeBron, btw... In most every stat imaginable... The ONLY WAY to call Jordan-- would be the Best Point Guard / Shooting Guard of his ERA....
@CODE92818 And he was no different than having Dwayne Wade play in that same respective ERA. THAT IS AN INDISPUTABLE FACT.
@CODE92818 I could put 5 Shaqs on the same team, vs 5 Jordans-- and Shaq would win-- every time.
Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion gave Bron the business😤
if it wasnt for dwade carrying lebrick, they wouldve lost in 5.
8 points in a game? avg 2pts in the 4th qauters of the series?
fantastic announcing by breen
Love Mike Breen. BANG! Legendary.
Mavs won clean tho. They were the better team, no excuses.
Mo Overall Fitness Hacks breen is overrated
dpistons149 no one agrees with you
Actually a lot of people think his bang call is stupid.Each to his own.
By far, the worst performance of LeBron's career.
gor9027 nah more like dallas shut his ass down and stepped up and made bigger plays, which is to dallas' credit. they made that the worst performance of lebrons career
Typical LeFraud james..🤔🤔
@Keyboard Legend yeah thats true, i just hate when people try and say lebron not scoring in the clutch as a way to diminish what dirk and dallas stepped up in the finals and did...they earned that win, it was not because james n co. choked.
@@gmail9384 you mean Miami heat refs didn't come thru..🤔🤔 LeCheat.. LeChoke..
@@gmail9384 Lebron is an all time great player and was in his prime. Mavs had a great defensive game plan but its not like they are the best defense of all time. Lebron this series was just horrible and choked.
deshawn stevenson the x-factor in that series
+wsuptrick he & barea
Barea broke the D down
oh my god I loved him this finals
How I wish I could go back to 2011
Wade carried Lebron this whole series
And Lebron carried miami for their back to back championship though.
Did they got the ring in 2011?
@Jamal Greasy I’m a dwade fan but what ur saying hardly means anything
Jamal Greasy wtf are you talking about? 😂 you mention leading stats for Bosh but not for LeBron?
LeBron had the most pts, rbs, ast in Miami 2012-2013 Finals and was their best defender. good try.
Carried them to a lost bro?? Ive never heard someone carrying someone in a series they lost. Lol. Now i agree just might want say it like " wades the single reason they even lasted 6 games in this series "
Great coaching by Rick carlise
The very reason why Avery Johnson is not there anymore! Rick made the right adjustments, Avery didn't!
kornwhiskey95 Well........ Wade did take 97 free throws that series
X02Overdose that 2006 finals Dallas should have won that, and those 97 free throw was just ridiculous, yes Avery didn't make adjustments but the refs clearly help that series for Wade.
kornwhiskey95 Yup
If LeBron did what he was supposed to do the Mavs would’ve lost again
D-Wade "wanted" that chip! Too bad they poked the bear and "irked" Dirk!
#TheFlyingGerman!!
DALLAS MAVERICKS 2011 NBA CHAMPIONS
ENOUGH SAID
GMR9X HELL YEAH DUDE!!
Gee, can't believe Dirk just played the game while having fever
+Chartis S lebron was healthy and scored 8 points....2 in the 4th 3-11 shooting ...dirk sick and injured and hobbled scored 21 and got 11 rebs....lebron played 45 minutes??????...had miami just not played him late they win or bibby...mike miller james jones eddie house juwan howard mario chamlers joel anthony udonis haslem were all playing just fine...wade and bosh were great
The time is NOWitzki!!!
Hey, if Michael Jordan can play sick, so can Dirk
God Bless'em Both
@@tnawcwvictoria they said Jordan's was actually a bad hangover from drinking lmao... is that the real truth
@@quincyweaver52 I heard it was food poisoning from eating a pizza at midnight.
The birth of the choker James was in this series.
Everyone was just wanting to hand the trophy to Lebron & Co. and anoint them before game one was even played. How many Lebron foot-kissers over at ESPN had to have ulcers after this game thinking "THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN." Then two games later, they had to be beyond sick to their stomachs to see Dirk and the Mavs being handed what was supposed to be Lebron's trophy. It was just beautiful to see Lebron, Wade and ESPN hoisted on their own petard with how this championship turned out.
Lebron still the goat
blicky gang 😆😆😆 yeah in your dreams...
Epic Meltdown of LeBron that Skip likes to talk about
Crazy to think that if miami couldve closed out game 2 and 4, it would've been a sweep, not a loss in 6.
The Heat totally blew Game 2 ngl. Then game 4 bron laid an egg. And Heat offense in general collapsed. That series was theirs to win
The Mavs were also a missed shot from Dirk at the end of game 3 from winning that series in 5 games.
dirk and dwade vintage man
As the old saying goes. The man who's wiling to take the most blows.to the face and gets up is going to win...DIRK is my hero.
Never underestimate the heart of a champion
dwyane wade is truly greatness
+ensayofr sadly
Doesn't diminish anything LeBron is top 2 all time
D wade missed a free throw to tie the game, and fucked up in the last play
carlos eatsbacon No he's not!! He hasn't passed Kobe or Magic
Joey AD he's still great tho
This was an entertaining series as you have 3 all stars and a decent system around them against 1 all-star future Hof and a decent system around him. Series like this drove me to become more intrigued into the NBA
LeBron got outplayed in an NBA Finals...by Jason Terry. This ended the G.O.A.T. debate. Period. MJ would have absolutely never. And anyone who was privileged to watch him play knows this. He would've never been the reason his team lost. Not like this.
He didn't actually get outplayed by Terry though. They both averaged 18 ppg and LeBron does a lot more than scoring, while Terry is basically only scoring. LeBron did get soundly outplayed by the duo of Kidd and Marion. Terry erases what the Heat got from Bosh. Dirk erases Wade's scoring. Then it's a big advantage to Dallas with the remaining rosters.
He was outplayed!!!!
DWade almost finished his career with 4 rings and 2 finals MVPs despite chronic Penny Hardaway and Tracy McGrady type of injuries. Put that into perspective. He almost delivered a Kobeesque championship resume with BAD KNEES. If LeBron scores 13 instead of 8 this game, they win this series in 6 and Wade’s finals MVP. If Wade could have had 4 rings and two finals MVPs WITH injuries, imagine what he could have had WITHOUT injuries. Those Shaq years. That would have been two rings instead of one. And the LeBron years, 4 instead of 2. He’d probably have 6 rings with 3 or 4 finals MVPs. And I’m not hyping. DWade was that good for it when it mattered most. He’d be second to Jordan not including centers (since they’re hard to rank). I think if people just think about this, they’d admit that he’s the closest in terms of overall ability to Jordan.
When LeBronda & Wanda were mocking Dirk’s cold/cough in a press conference it made my blood boil. So childish and disrespectful, no class. Dirk was right to walk into the locker room in game 6 and not shake their hands.
They shared locker rooms ? 🧐
Lebron was able to sabotage his offense through 3 quarters but when Miami took a 9 point lead to start the fourth, you see how obviously he stopped played defense, and doing nothing on offense.
I ALWAYS LOVE TO REWATCH GAME 4 OF 2011 NBA FINALS. It always reminds me the greatest meltdown of the the TOP 2 Player All Time
Top 2 😂😂😂😂 Nah definitely top 5 tho
top 1
Lebrons famous Triple single
I wanna se some defensive highlights, not just offense. TC was the man
This game optimizes why Lebron will never be MJ, 8 points... 4 TOs nuff said
Marvin Garcia bro ur 10x right. i just dont get why bron is compared to either kobe or mj or magic. three goats three well respected legendsnd have i seen him get dunked on ty chandler 2
stupidnamewaster stated facts "sounds retarded" now. chillax... say what you gotta say only has to be facts. my guy the man is a good physical/power player but not on their level yet. unless he willing to put the time and be determined to do by any means necessarily, I don't seen him close to them. that's just me being honest with u
Yusuf Al-Quran Ali No facts you're just saying the same annoying repeated meaningless crap K obe fans always repeat over and over and over and over.
All Kobe fans come up with is rings and "killer instinct". First year back in CLE Lebron lead the worst franchise in the NBA back to the Finals and would of won it too if it wasn't for a couple bad timed injuries, Lebron haters stupid as hell.
stupidnamewaster what type of injuries does bron ever had. cavs were already built before he came. why not win them before going to dwade and bringing bosh over and miller,ray all those roster.
Yusuf Al-Quran Ali LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO are you mental?!? You mean that terrible 2010 cavs roster that lost to the Celtic Underdogs? It was like if Durant had to play on the Thunder without Westbrick. You'd have nothing. LOL
He is right though. If the Cavs weren't injured they would had won the entire thing for sure. I don't get what Kobe did that makes him below LeBron. His clutch record is shite, he shoots like 40 shots per game and isn't even 500. Kobe was part of that early 2000 laker dynasty but he didn't carry it. Shaq did. Plus the fact that he elbowed Bibby when they were up by like 1. If the ref called that he would had lost the game for their team with a FLAGRANT FOUL. LOOOOOL. Stop sucking Kobe dick and pay attention to the real world.
dirk at the beggining was sick...
D-Wade was amazing in this Series!
Ahmad2423 -the 2011 finals were completely rigged and Lebron was in on it. Miami was up 2-1 and Lebron threw the game in game 4. He only scored 8 points and they only lost by three. The league has been rigged since Michael Jordan came onto the scene
CR7 GOAT Rigged provide me proof to support your theory please?...
Ahmad2423 it's obvious bro, Lebron never attacked the defense, kept passing the ball, not playing defense at all, unforced turnovers. Miami had the most talented team in the league and were by far better than the Mavericks.
Lebron had torched the best defense in the world (bulls) in the conference finals and somehow doesn't attack the Mavericks defense. It was completely rigged. All of the fouls the Mavericks got.
Mark Cuban: "if people found out what happens in NBA boardrooms then fans would never look at NBA games the same. Before the 2011 finals I learned to play it the right way."
It all started with Michael Jordan. His career has been scripted since 1989.
So you're also saying the only reason why Michael Jordan is 6/ 6 in the Finals. Is bcuz it was rigged?...
CR7 GOAT I hear ya but I'm not buying it. I saw player at that particular time in his career who didn't know anything about winning. Once he learned how to play his best in the pressure moments. He became the Lebron that we see today...I just found it funny that every time Lebron lose. Well it was rigged, And the way Jordan dominated well that was rigged as well...It's all Bullshit IMO!
My favorite sports conspiracy theory is that LeBron took a dive in this game knowing that if the Heat won, Wade was going to win Finals MVP. People forget that at the time Wade was considered to be in the same class as LeBron, and no one thought the second half of his career would be ruined by injuries. Wade being considered the best player on the Heat, and therefore the best player in the league, would have arguably damaged LeBron’s case for passing Jordan more than them losing the series.
Maybe 😮
or he just had a bad series magnified by the mavs building a wall around the rim and forcing him to take outside jumpers
Good theory
The moment we all knew he wasn’t the GOAT
what excuses you have now BRONSEXUALS?
"lechoke had the flu!" lmaoooo
Their searching for a new super team..🤔🤔
Dirk had a fucking Fever fuck outta here with that shit.
@@jackjack9331 he injured his groin
he didn't care about winning obviously.
Some guy above said that the heat wasn't a stacked team. Some guys said that this wasn't a bad game because LeBron nearly had a triple double, some even said that the Mavs we're a better team overall, forget it man, you can't never win an argument with unreasonable people
This series would’ve still been held against LeBron in the GOAT debate even if they won. LeBron was not the best player on the floor that series.
Lechoke was awful, outplayed by terry
My all time Favorite NBA Game, GOAT Performance by the best player on the planet
me personally i like when mj took 19 shots against the magic and only 3 went in
@epic7608. Grasping at straws.
Can’t believe this was 9 years ago this is when the Mavs got payback from 2006 NBA finals.
delusional Lebron fans saying he threw the game. He went to Miami to throw games? He could've stayed in Cleveland and did the same thing
The Lebron James Hate Channel it seemed like he did because when the game started Lebron didn't seem like himself at all. He barely took any shots, he didn't rebound, shoot or post up and he was literally in the corner the entire game. Idk I always thought that something was going through Lebrons head. But now that I look back, it looked way too sketchy for Lebron to ever do something like this, even if it was a regular season game.
The Lebron James Hate Channel by the way get a life. The fact that you would even have a channel with such a name is the most pathetic and repulsive thing I've seen in a human being
The Lebron James Hate Channel no he couldnt dumbass he litterally had no all star every team needs atleast 1 all star to win a title
@@iamandres618 how many all stars did dirk have in 2011 not during there career during this season? Miami had three how many did dallas have ill wait
Any bronsexuals here...🤔🤔🤔
Funny how Brian Cardinal actually LOOKS like a plumber that MJ supposedly played against, but was on the winning side of an NBA Finals against prime LeBron. Heh.
They didn't call him the Custodian for no reason, but Cardinal was actually really good for Dallas in his very limited playoff minutes.
On this night, LeChoke was born. The Chosen One became The Frozen One.
skip?
Thank you so much for uploading this.
If ONLY someone wud put up the mia vs okc series too
Why dont you do it?
jproxursoxoff i don't have the footage. I can't find the footage either
The 2000s and early 2010s man....you might not have had the ridiculous half court shots you see now, but my goodness were the playoffs fist fights
This game proves L3-6ron is the goat lmao
Saint Tanas yeah 8 points is the best. only goats reach that. that is great. NOT (its a joke lechoke is trash)
That save by D-Wade was sick. If Miller hits the shot, woulda been an awesome play
as skip would say, when the chosen one became the frozen one lol
Jason Kidd with a clutch dirty block, Dirk, Jason Terry, JJ Barea, Stevenson, so many clutch plays and players. Tyson Chandler, Shawn Marion
gee that last play nearly worked! still had time to pass to Bosh!
You got to love that help defense from LeBROOM right at the 12:03 mark. He stared down Nowitzki in the hope to make him miss. DWade was not even in the picture initially but nearly got the block. LeBROOM was... oh welll... can't help that...
Unreal. He just watched Dirk make the move, motionless.
8:32 my favorite part
11:58 sums up the series for Lebron he didn't even attempt to step over to help stop Dirk from driving to the basket. Not even a fake step to see if Dirk would try pass it out to Terry and he could get a steal just for playing the passing lane. Lebron just stood there and watched smh. I guess he didn't like playing defense back then either
Lawn Amateur he was told to throw this game hence why Bron looked nothing mike his usual all around self
Lebrons most clutch play in 9 finals was a block.
Man people really hate LeBron for absolutely no reason.
Sean Vasquez eIgHt PoInTs 😂 i think that’s acceptable, but if kawhi or MJ had 8 points I would say something different, rt?
@@seanvasquez2056 No reason? People hate on LeBron be because of his arrogance and bitch ass attitude.
@@seanvasquez2056 nobody hates him, we don’t even know him personally. You just can’t take criticism because you’re soft like charmin, RIP Kobe.
hope you can upload full games of this series.:)
barea was sick 6:49
Probably the greatest underdog championship in the 2000s
not really that team was extremely deep
This series forever killed his chance to become GOAT.
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
@jaboo82681 My thoughts-- are a "Copy and Paste". Why Tysvm, mthrfr... I didn't know I was famous
I cant believe they put Joel Anthony in starting five at the age of 48
This run by Dirk was the greatest run I have ever seen by an NBA player. Sadly, it doens't get talked about because the media needs to slurp on Brons sack 24/7 and this makes him look bad.
Man Lebron got so much better as an overall played, I'm happy he got over his anxiety cuz he looked lost in these finals
12:46 what a Turnover , but also what a save
And there was still few seconds , Miller should be able to shoot it better or pass to James
Dude he was fading away with a guy all over him from 30 ft after playing in a physical game..it’s not on him.. they lost because lebron was a turd
This was the biggest game of the series.
Imagine mike Miller made that 😱
Bron passing up shots out the post with jason kidd guarding him 😂😂😂😂
He knew Kidd would strip him if he turned on him. Kidd wasn't a 9× All Defensive Team selection for no reason.
@imdbtruth he was bigger stronger and faster than kid shoot over him stop making excuses 🙄
@dollarbill6342 He did shoot over Kidd, but he missed. That's just facts. Mavs had him doing nothing but shooting jumpers.
@dollarbill6342 Also it's no coincidence that the Heat were also 0-2 against Dallas in the 2011 regular season and LeBron struggled badly in those games as well, averaging only 21 ppg on terrible 31% shooting.
BRONSEXUALS:
"heat lost because wade couldnt control the pass to him on the last play and lost the ball.
"lebron couldve shot the last shot to tie the game!!"
LMFAOOO
@@larryukandu6881 The GOAT shouldn't get knocked out multiple times in just the 1st round of the Playoffs.
richard sanchez and he also missed a ft right before off a fantastic clutch pass by lbj
I completely agree with u
Fantastic choke job by lebron yes you’re right
@@allenxavier6073 yeah facing the prime celtics without help is better than missing the playoffs, right? peenoise
@@masterkenph928 what's a peenoise lmao?😂😂😂
Comeback 15 point in game2 when 8 minutes left .
Comeback Games4
7-8 point behind in the 4thQ.
Mavs really deserve it .😢
Lebron threw this game . How do you simply not show up in game 4 of an nba finals? If even plays half way decent they win the series in 5 or 6.
he had all those great assists tho, he tried to lowkey himself into a passer, guess that didnt work...
+nomooon they were up 2-1 than Lebron stops playing and they still only lose by 3 in game 4. Than he continues to play average and they still barely lose the series. I cant explain it but i think he threw the series
If Lebron doesn't stop playing they win. He had to have an 8 point game and they still only lost by 3. This shit was rigged for Dallas. Lebron was in on it, just like how it was scripted in game 5 2014 were Lebron didnt play against Indiana and he only had 8 points again.
But It would've hurt Lebrons legacy more if heat won and Wade won FMVP.
+ensayofr no Kobe threw the 2004 finals and lebron threw the 2011 finals.
him and shaq were the stars not everybody else they were and tell me this how does a two time mvp not play defense not drive like he did in the Celtics and Philly series and pass up shots that he usually takes? cuz it was rigged if he drove it to the basket played defense and played bad that's choking not trying at all is not choking David stern told him to play like that because see how people still talk about it till this day even though he won three championships it brought ratings and made the league more money him "choking" was the biggest news that whole year it was everywhere look at the video again and tell me he was trying everybody expected them to win that's why everybody hated them so that would make them lose ratings because people already know who's gonna win but them losing was a better story than them winning see my point?
Just like 2006, the Mavs and the Heat have even the series @ 2 a piece after 4 games
WHAT A GAME AND WHAT A SERIES
Mike Miller went for 3 and AIR BALL!
💜 this Mavericks teams from 2011
2006 Heat over 2011 Heat and 2011 Mavericks over 2006 Mavericks
The block of chandler and layup between the two bigs is still one of my favorite D-Wade plays. People forget how dominant he was defensively. That's why I think he's the closest thing to MJ. Even though Kobe is better offensively D-Wade's all around game resembled Jordan's more.
Dwade resembled young MJ. Kobe resembled old MJ. Athletic slasher vs back to the basket midrange assassin.
This Miami squad was 🔥
imagine there are people out there thinking hes the goat............ Smh
Lebron scoring 8 points in a Finals game is crazy
Lmao last play of the game and the 'king' is in the corner hoping not to get the ball
Looking back, JJ Barea was like the Isaih Thomas of that period. Dude was seriously underrated. Destroyed my lakers smh
Jason Terry always reduced all dallas deficits. With help from role players barea, deshawn Stevenson, chandler, marion. Ofcoarse dirk closing games.
LeBron's famous triple single game
This is the first time I rewatch this series since I first watched it in 2011. First, I'd like to say this was a loooong time ago. Second, I forgot how insanely passive LeBron was this series. Passing the ball while posting up J. Kidd?? 2012-17 LeBron would have a FIELD DAY with that. He looked so tentative to put up a shot. Sometimes I wonder if when he retires he can have a full conversation with someone about whether he was even there mentally. It really is inexcusable considering that that was CB and Wade's healthiest and probably best year out of the four. Had Lebron averaged even 24 pts we would be having an easier time to make his case as one of the greatest to play the game.
Ricardo Dominguez LeBron still to this day doesn't truly have a go to post move .
Nah. It’s all made up. Loook at his regular season stats vs Dallas and compare them to his Finals stats. THEY ARE THE SAME. What’s that mean? It means LBJ can’t plead insanity for this one. It wasn’t mental; he had a bad mat up vs Shawn Marion and an efficient offense that didn’t give easy transition opportunities. That’s it. Ppl act like ‘never happened before and never happened since!’ I would argue his 2010 meltdown vs Boston was just as bad; and two years after this he scored 7 points in an ECF loss!
@@MackenzieRiversPodcasthis 07 finals was pretty awful too but I guess you could argue that he was young
Ppl say lebron lost this game but it came down to Tyson chandler and dirk. Controlling the paint.
Lebron got a triple single and 8 points and was getting torn apart by Jason Terry, and D Wade was working over time to get 32 points, and they lost by 3.
Yeah, lebron lost the Heat this game.
Nah wade had to work hard cause there was no floor spacing they couldn’t shoot at all
@@bigmal463LeBron lost it for them ... no matter how you wanna put it!
Ik dwade was amazing this series but they didnt show how he missed a free throw to tie the game and then lost the ball at the end
vincent vega he did? Damn...must’ve been around that 80-82 point mark.
@@djfred5027 yea they skipped it look at the score
Memorable nba finals
This is better than playoffs this year,,nba sucks now cuz of blowout everyone shooting threes,, this kinda game is what people deserve to watch,, nowadays 20-50 point blowout lol
Fast forward 10 years: It´s 86-83 and we´ll back with the 2nd half after a short break.
Bronsexuals are petitioning RUclips to delete this clip because it is embarrassing AF LMAO I can even score more than Lebum in this game! I can score 10 pts easy!
Terry turns the momentum! 9:43 and 11:01
Lebron was the 3rd best player on this team, at best lmao and that is with the NBA favoring the fuk out of him his entire career. So embarrassing that people have actually been tricked into thinking he's even in the GOAT conversation
12:13 that walk, knowing he successfully exacted the first part of his revenge
2011 mavs is far more incredible than the 2016 cavs.
FACTS
11:41 Lebron has the ball down 2 with 23 seconds left on the shot clock. Why are you passing to Wade in that situation? You can hold onto the ball and look for a good shot but you pass it all the way down court to wade who had 2 defenders close to him. Just doesn’t make sense.
Y'all goat had 8 points and 4 turnovers yuck 🤢
NOBODY is the "Greatest of ALL TIME"... IN THE NBA--- THAT DOES NOT EXIST AS A POSSIBLE ACRONYM... Players are not anything other than the best performing (Position) of their ERA... Nothing else.... Get that through your dense cranium...
@@ankletaker2729 not even CLOSE to the same thing as coming up this small and having a meltdown THIS SEVERE when you're IN YOUR PRIME WITH A SUPERTEAM vs losing in the first round the first 4 years of your career when you're not even in your prime and are in a franchise that is trying to rebuild and not looking to contend yet.... Oh, and that "NOBODY is THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, just greatest of that era bs is a politically correct way to protect lebron... I love LBJ, he's my third favorite player of all time after wade and zo but c'mon... Enough
DannyLlerenaTV cmon enough what? Teddy Atlas said it best. A true winner is determined by how he responds to adversity. LeBron going into 2011 didn’t know how to approach playing with D Wade & Chris Bosh. They’ve said this a million times, LeBron was being passive yes NOT because he didn’t want to shoot but because he FINALLY got his dream teammates & he didn’t know whether to take the game over or to be less aggressive because he now has help. Prior to 2011 NOBODY can ever say LeBron went out passive! WHY?! Because he knew he HAD to shoot a ton in order for those 2000s Cavs teams to even have a chance to win. This isn’t a KD situation where he all he had to do is Plug himself into a championship well oiled machine, no LeBron & the Heat had to figure it out in 1 season. Fair enough he STILL lost ok, he was PASSIVE ok, but what happened the next 3 years when Dwayne Wade literally came out & said that he told LeBron this is his team. Back 2 Back rings & a finals lost to the BEST spurs TEAM in their entire history, not the most talented but the BEST team!
Back to Teddy Atlas, he said a competitor is determined by the adversity he faced & how he responds. He LITERALLY coached Mike Tyson & says Mike Tyson should never be considered the GOAT in boxing. WHY? Because he dominated EVERYONE he came in contact with until he had to face REAL monsters like George Foreman & Holyfield. Now remember it’s not necessarily about the greatness of your opponent but more so how DIFFICULT they make it on you to win.
Sit here & show me ANYONE who has faced more stiff competition in the finals than LeBron? Nobody is even close. Show me someone who has had to deal with MULTIPLE injuries from his best teammates in the ENTIRE finals? Only a few players can relate.
Let’s not even get started with LeBrons numbers because you know for a fact there is no competition
AnkleTaker 2 I absolutely hate the warriors but here it goes.
1.MJ’s peak numbers and stats are above lebron’s.
2. What player has lebron faced that’s as good as magic Johnson who in my opinion is #3 all time and was the runner up for mvp that season?
3. What player has lebron faced that’s as good as a prime Larry bird who is arguably 5th all time and could’ve very well been the goat?
4.Did you know that the late 90s Jazz used to trample shaq, kobe, Tim Duncan and those guys?
5. Did you know the bulls were considered the underdogs in the 98 finals and Jordan practically won that series alone because Rodman was useless against the mailman and Pippen went down?
6. What meltdowns has Jordan had that were anything close to lebrons 2010, 2011 and 2018 meltdowns?
Jordan’s failures happened again as a young buck, lebron’s failures have happened in his prime and peak. I agree that it’s not just about the rings but you have to look at every scenario possible. I’m a lebron fan but point close he’s just not the goat, he has too many stains on his legacy... teammates and competition are not an excuse, and rings are NOT just a team accomplishment, this is basketball not football, 1 player can make THAT much of a difference just look at Kawhi, dirk, Hakeem and wade. I don’t knock him for losing to the warriors but at least have some integrity in game one of 2018. Yeah JR did something stupid and you have 50 points, but at least finish what you started, go down with honor and don’t quit on your team in overtime and then put a scarf on your hand after game 4 and claim you broke your hand...
DannyLlerenaTV m sorry bro but I stopped reading after I saw Larry Bird could’ve been the GOAT & when you said LeBron melted down in 2018 lmao like what basketball have you been watching? LeBrons teams have been the underdog 7 out of the 9 times they went to the finals & you wanna bring up the ONE time MJ was the underdog (which I have to fact check because there is NO WAY MJ stans would’ve had him as an underdog in ANY series). By the way I understand you can have an arguement as to magic being top 5 but bro don’t act like LeBron didn’t face Tim Duncan best PF of all time, Steph Curry top 2 PG of all time idc what anyone has to say. KD who in my opinion is a FAR better talent than Magic & Larry Bird & Dirk a top 25 player of all time.
That’s not even mentioning players like Kawhi, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Draymknd Green, Kalyan’s Thompson. Which the first 3 are in pace to becoming top 20 players of all time or HIGHER (Depending on the amount of rings they get) by the time they retire.
The competition isn’t close bro I don’t even know why it’s a conversation. Not to mention all the bums LeBron had as starters for THREEEEEE of his 9 finals & tell me if I’m wrong about that.
2007 TEam won 60+ games because LeBron was shouldering the offense & was at his Athletic PRIME
2015 he had Delly, Mozgov & JR as his 3 best players because of all the injuries
2018 his best teammates were Kevin Love, Jeff Green & Tristan Thompson
This LeBron performance cost Wade another Finals MVP and a 4th ring
its just simple,Mavs got motivated,the Heat never take it Seriously.
Sercia Soliven no mavs fuck all heat superteam
how can a decently functioning human being actually believe that a professional athlete wouldn't take the biggest stage of their profession seriously
like how for one second can this actually be considered to be possible by anyone who is capable of tying their own shoes, feeding his/herself etc
I like how the best player in the planet is kicking back relaxing when he could of dominated