D Wade was CLEARLY better than lebron up until 2011 and then he took a back seat to lebron in 2012 so lebron could be maximized by the team. Lebron should of taken a back seat to Wade, but if lebron isn't the focal point he is useless as we see here smh. He costed Wade a ring and finals mvp smh. He also has had his fan boys diminish Wades legacy. I remeber when we used to say Wade was a top 3 SG of all time back in 2012. Lebron has to be the most overrated athlete of all time. Everything about him is overrated. His defense, his IQ, his offense, his passing, his rebounding, his clutchness. Is there anything about him that is underrated? Lebron is definitely that kid who would take his ball and go home if things werent going his way. Basically stop playing defense on me and let get a wide open lay ups. I'm sorry but this guy isn't top 10. He only won because he stacked the deck and had help from the refs as well. Without that he Would be ringless like James harden. Keep up the great work AOH 💪🏾. This was another surgical breakdown
That’s a bit much. Clearly part, I mean. Dwyane Wade actually caught a lot of NBA people off guard with how quickly he was able to be impactful, he also was like 2 to 3 years older than everybody in his draft class. I’d give 2006 to Wade due to more maturity and polish. Plus having an actual midrange jumper that murked the Mavs that Bron struggled with 5 years later. And in 2007 Wade was definitely better and was the best player in the league before throwing his shoulder out averaging 28/8/8 and then another injury riddled 2008. 2009 I’d personally give a slight edge to Wade even though LeBron won MVP. And this was when Kobe, LeBron and Wade were all on the same tier post Olympics. Kobe was now in his late prime and physical abilities were starting to become reduced and no longer was definitively the best player in the league as he was 2004 - 2008. D-Wade was at his peak. And Bron was entering his prime. I’d say 2010 they were neck and neck. Which is funny though because Dwyane Wade performed much better and with less help against the 2010 Boston Celtics defense that gave both late prime Kobe and early prime LeBron fits. I’d say 2011, they were neck and neck as well. Wade had a poor ECF against Chicago. He always seemingly struggled against, whether it was Kirk Hinrich’s underrated defense giving him issues in the late 00s. Or in that Conference Finals. And then we obviously know how LeBron totally shit the bed even worse for Miami in the Finals. I think D-Wade came to the realization that in order to win he had to feed LeBron’s ego and ball dominant style to maximize his abilities and motivations, Wade was mature and realized he had to take a back seat statistically and stylistically and play more off the ball. And he worked more on his post game. Which is really what allowed Miami to win. Because if he didn’t do that and they continue to play in the turnstile as they did in 2011, I don’t see them winning against even the young Thunder (even with the sus officiating) or the Spurs. He’s really the unsung selfless hero of that entire Heat era where Bron got the glory. Even in 2013, with his body, starting to break down, D-Wade had the biggest game on the road in SA in Finals game 3. And if you paid attention to the series, LeBron didn’t much of his stat accumulation after games have already been decided. He did the same thing in the 2014 finals when they got curb stomped, and by that point Wade’s body was a shell of itself. Would inspire LeBron to cowardly bolt on his “friend” without telling him ahead of time that summer. I feel bad D-Wade calls him a friend tbh. Dude didn’t even show up to his Hall of Fame induction. SMH
So Wade was definitely better than LeBron in 2005, 2006, 2007 (pre injury), and 2009. 2010 and 2011 is a tie. And Bron gets 2008 (Wade injured), 2012 - Now
I agree and in year 21 he's still not close to the goat conversation because his whole career was manufactured by the NBA executives ,the sports media and using p.e.ds.@@robglobal1
Wade's body language screams "bro,why are you even on the court?!" And i swear if you zoom in you can catch him staring daggers at LeBron for a split second
Wade and LeBron didn't get along that first season. But after they took that gaycation together, where they slept in the same room looking sus. Things changed, at least for their relationship. It of course didn't help the team though, the refs helped the team the 2 years they won.
@@Hooperville1974Why do you think no one speaks bad about the face of the nba ????? I’m surprised Isaiah Stewart isn’t rotting in the gleague or something
This was worse then i remembered and people try and tell me this guy used to be an elite defender ive been telling them he was never ever a great defender
Watch game 1, 2007, in San Antonio. Lebron does the same no-show. And bricks every shot. His team played hard tho, and did their best to stay in the game. Gooden, zadrunis, pavlovic. Verajao, snow etc
@@stevencoardvenice I can just imagine LeBots if the Cavs had won that. 100% credit given to LeFraud for sure but since they were swept we can all pretend like a 50 win 2nd seed team was awful.
It is worse because he has the ability to go under the radar by taking no risks, watch and get any opportunity to shine. But with videos like this, he gets exposed really quick. And it's ugly.
The fact that Lebron did not find a way to attend Dwade's hof induction, in hindsight tells you that he has always been jealous of him and guys like Kobe and Dirk., who had the clutch gene and killer mentality. As you can see in this series, he absolutely threw this game as to not Dwade outshine him. Narcissistic to the bone
@@JJ_5289every lechoke's teamate has been thrown under the bus... I don't know when, but when they start to talk , it will be funny... Right now, the media doesn't want that, they still make money on this fraud... Just like the Balco scandal they pretend that it doesn't even exist...
Lebron’s not playing defense, not attempting to rebound, not boxing out, not switching on picks… and this is year 7 of his career. You’d think he was a rookie the way he was a**ing up the court.
He's repeatedly stuck in no mans land in this game. Not close enough to the basket to box anyone out or attempt to get the rebound. And on defense he's always a step behind which leaves him guarding no one and his teammates have to pick up the slack. On offense he's a step behind too. Not reacting fast enough to the double team and passing out of it. Or not attacking fast enough when he has an opening. He looks lost. It shows he never needed to give effort before. He coasted on his natural talent and never worked to improve his game. He thought stepping on the court was enough. It's weird that someone played middle school, high school, and 7 years in the NBA and was still acting like this.
@@hanswurst-gl5hc To be fair, Gump got football nailed exactly as a kick returner. Catch ball, run like a motherfucker to the other end zone like life depends on it.
I was 19 that year. Remember it vividly, and this is a completely 100% accurate breakdown of how the events unfolded, although you still have to watch the full games to truly appreciate how awful LeBron showed himself to truly be. One thing i will say is EVERY time a LeBron team has been beaten in the playoffs, the winning team has also had to beat the officiating. This even goes all the way to last year where the Nuggets had to hit every miraculous shot to win those games. Would be interesting to see an officiating breakdown of each of those playoff series.
Right I always think back to the 2016 finals were Steph was being tackled of the three point line with no calls, just recently thought about how dirty the calls were in the Cavs Boston series when Isaiah Thomas Celtics was fina end Bron early
This happened in tonight's game between the Nuggets and Lakers which was game 5. The Lakers shot 27 free throws to the Nuggets' 9. And the Lakers still lost. Without that discrepancy, the Nuggets easily would have won by 10 pts.
I couldn't agree more about the officiating conspiracy. the nba is a business and they hyped Lebron from day 1 so he'd drag in ratings. they were compelled to not let their business decision fail when it became clear just how awful he was. The problem now is the officiating that favored Lebron has leeched into the game at large and sunk league ratings.
Same thing in the San Antonio sweep. If lebron had just hit his regular season average in those finals, CAVs would have won many games. He was the problem. Not his teammates, who played well
I saw a clip recently of Shaq interviewing a player on the Rockets in a post game. Shaq said he hadn’t been familiar with the player’s game to that point, and the kid interjected “Ah, you’re a casual.” It sounded kinda funny in the edited clip but in reality, yes, the way the league has deteriorated, these guys have made die hard fans of the game into casuals by the trash we have to watch. Most of us say, no thank you. Wake us up when real basketball returns.
Poor D Wade really hurt his legacy by joining LeBron. 2 more rings but at what cost? He and Bosh could have gotten rings with someone else, especially with Ray Allen added. Instead D Wade is just another victim in the category of “LeBron had no help”.
I do not understand. LeBron went on national television to announce his change to Muami. That ridiculous event was followed by the "stage show" to show his presence. The arrogance continued with 'not 1, not 2...". How he (or anyone else), say Miami "let him down" has me perplexed. This was planned. At the very least, Bosh and James colluded to make this happen.
What I remember about the Jason Terry and LeBron matchup was JET wasn’t scared and said LeBron couldn’t guard him before the series started. Terry torched LeBron all series long.
The Most i remember Is that suddenly Terry was not trying a lay UP against Lebron, he was traying a dunk AND in that moment Lebron finally sprint in defense AND foul him hard.
It was weird that they were even guarding each other in the first place. Even weirder that LeBron couldn’t put his little ass into the stanchion on every drive.
Honestly, I don't judge a great player by him missing shots, or making shots. What rubs me the wrong way about Lebron is the lack of effort, the antics when things don't go his way, and the way he carries himself. He quits. At least take some shots, and move with or without the damn ball in your hands!!! It's not just about having a bad series. If the Mavericks were just shutting down Lebron, contesting most of his shots, and making life difficult, that's one thing, but it's completely different when you don't even show up and give it your all. There were a ton of opportunities for Lebron to at least try to take advantage of, but he didn't. One thing I have noticed about Lebron over the entire course of his career is that he is a front-runner. The only time I have seen Lebrons teams come back from a deficit is when they have another spark on their team whether it was Bosh, Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Love, or other guys. I have never seen Lebron pull his team out of a rut when the offense, or defense is spuddering. That's what guys like MJ, and Kobe did. Whether their shots were falling, or not, they usually did everything in their power to pull their team out of a hole, and never stopped giving every ounce of effort they had in their body and mind. If their shots weren't falling, they would rebound the ball, play defense, force turnovers, score on hustle plays, and facilitate. They would keep pressing the issue until their shots finally did start falling for them. That's why they won so much more, and that's why they put the fear of God in their opponents hearts.
@@RiskLight920 no he would not Lebum never improved his skills in anything other then flopping and his ball handling got worst never is or was Top 10 material
I don't know how anyone could have him near guys like Olajuwon, Bird, Magic, Iverson, Kobe etc..let alone trying to shove him into a goat debate between him and MJ? He doesn't even make my top 10.
Did you see that play Terry blew by LeBron and Wade blocked his shot at the rim, how mad Wade was at LeBron 😂 😂 😂. He looked right at him and yelled and spiked the ball. Lmmfaooooo.
Maybe he played zone defense and LeMedia started coping about that 😂 a few things are for sure: it's not for full games, it's not star players, it's never a lock down and it's never in the playoffs
@@Serching4JerryGarcia I think it was the block on Tiago Splitter in the 2013 finals 🤣🤣🤣🤣Tiago Splitter and this dude can’t guard the BS that comes out of that lying azz mouth
Dude has no handle, can't get himself a real shot unless he gets some illegal screens set for him. He absolutely froze in this series. I remember this happening and being relieved the Lebron vs Jordan debate was dead and buried. Boy was I wrong.
Nobody, with any understanding of basketball, that is being honest, thinks this bum is even in the same dimension as MJ. It is completely absurd to compare him to MJ. He's not even in the top 50 players of all time. A stat padder that's been allowed to rim run uncontested for 20 years. He would have been a mediocre player in the 90s. And wouldn't have started on several teams. A 6th man at best.
@@KG-kq9tk lol yea, I can't stand LeBron as much as the next guy but it's hard to not have him in the top 10 and it's crazy to have him outside of the top 15. IF we are talking just about basketball. Of course, this series right here was probably the low point of his career, if you judge him based on just this he isn't top anything. He did have many other playoff runs and finals series where he was a lot better, especially a pretty phenomenal series against the Warriors. Personally I would have him behind both MJ, Bird, Magic and Kareem, and maybe behind Kobe and Duncan. But that's about it.
Interesting point you brought up about how lebron looked in 2011. He has aged a lot in 13 years. The aging doesn't even look normal when you compare. Also a lot of people say that this series is what ended the goat debate. I don't even agree he was ever good enough to be in the debate. Not with that skill set. Jordan is light years superior to lebron james in all things basketball related.
Jordan is superior in everything related to lebron,mj movie didn’t flop,mj shoes is still the highest selling,mj character is nothing but classy everything mj touches becomes valuable p,everything lebron touches…well u see the results
The rest of his career is also not GOAT worthy i agree, but even if he turned into MJ for the remainder of his career this would still disqualify him in advance. He would have had to absolutely shatter MJ's accomplishments to even he considered after this choke job.
I mean people put him in the goat debate before winning anything. They kept him innit despite getting swept. They kept him innit despite quitting on his Cavs team. They kept him in it after this debacle. It’s insane.
Aged a lot in 13 years? I wonder much different a 3 year old will look when they hit 16 lol. I wonder how much different a 17 year old will look when they hit 30. Some ppl age faster than others. His aging isn't a product of steroids or whatever you wanna say he's doing. Homie just aged a little faster than some others do. Hell I aged faster than I would've wanted to and I'm 40 and never done steroids. Some ppl in my grad class still look pretty young. It just happens. Ultimate Warrior was on that juice and he looked pretty good for his age for a while.
I VIVIDLY remember this game as the moment I couldn’t believe they were touting this guy as the best. I remember him DOING NOTHING and getting enraged because I was like how is no one else seeing this??! I felt like I got transported to a weird parallel dimension where obviously weak men can be “number 1”. I literally said how can anyone compare this man to Jordan…somehow this lie still persists.
The better your BS detector gets the more you'll run into situations like that where you'll be questioning if you're the crazy one or if everyone else is just blind. Applies to much more than basketball ofc.
Great breakdown video AOH. I remember this series like it was yesterday. Media went into crisis management mode after this series. Just remember folks, this is who the media claims have the highest iq in nba history
The thing with Jason Terry is that he wasn't even in his prime in this season. Yes he was a really good player and they called him The Jet, but he was 33 years old here, not the fastest or best version of Terry.
@AOH - Of course us old NBA fans remember DeShawn Stevenson. If you remember when DeShawn played for the Wizards in the mid 2000's - he called Lebron "overrated". This made the LeSPN headlines. I wonder if LeFraud's fragile EGO remembered that? Perhaps that lead to his frozen trance for this series? I have better footage of all of 2011 if you're interested - you know how to reach me and get it brother. Keep up the great footage been watching all morning instead of actually working.
I absolutely remember Stevenson. When the cavs won that series, Jay z released a dissed track "blow the whistle" aimed at Stevenson. I believe Stevenson was also calling LeBron soft that series. When Dallas won this series, Stevenson wore a shirt saying "LeBron how my dick taste"
@@AngryOldHoopsAOH, when are you going to do a video on the 95 Bulls losing to Orlando. It was rust from MJ from so much time off, right? That's why he averaged 32.5/6/6 against CHA in the 1st round. 6 for 6 though right?
@@danielgloyd4529yeah. The other thinks he’s being clever and has a “gotcha!” moment, but MJ didn’t just take time off, he completely changed sports. His muscle memory, his mechanics, everything was aimed at playing a completely different sport for a year and a half. With that being said, it’s not an excuse. He lost. We don’t give him credit for losing. He didn’t quit on his team, though. He came back and won 3 straight for the second time. Something LBJ hasn’t even done once, with all that help. 6/6 means in the NBA FINALS. You know, the place where LeBron is 4-6? 😂
LeBron on defense always looks to me like he is about to fall over. He is so off balance and his footwork is atrocious! No wonder he was getting burned by the jet.
I've always hated how people try to change history so much around Dwayne Wade. He was an amazing player. And people act like he never was good at all. Why? As AOH said, to make Lebron seem better than he is. That simple. In that Heats team, it was Wade the Bosh as the best on that team and watching the games it's so obvious. The most known picture of Lebron/Wade is literally Wade stting Lebron up for an easy dunk. That says it all.
You casuals pay way to much attention to other casuals on social media who were in diapers during these games and wades prime. I have literally never seen one prominent basketball mind ever say or act like wade was “never good at all” in fact all I’ve seen is praise putting him as the third best SG of all time behind MJ and Kobe. Please name these people that said this about wade.
Just watched a vid on Mavs "magical title run," which highlighted Dirk's incredible performance but also how Lebron choked so hard lol. Excited to watch your in depth analysis of LeChoke.
It's like he was so big and athletic coming up that he never learned any skills other than giving up the ball. I remember the narrative of those willing to criticize LeBebe back then was that someone with such a size/power advantage should learn how to use it better. Post/mid-post, work for position instead of just floating on the perimeter waiting for a lane to open up. Well, 13 years later and it never happened.
I just recently tuned 11 years old when I saw this series and I remember it being bad, but damn bruh not this bad. Seeing it as and older person it really pisses me off, since I hear nothing but excuses whenever I mention this series to anyone.
You absolutely need to do a 2013 game 4 breakdown. The heat were down 1-2 in the series and Wade proved he was Batman by putting his team on his back and saving that series while lebron ran up his stat line in garbage time against the Spurs bench after Wade had put the game out of reach.
the 2012 series was such a fix job. The refs made the spurs lose to the thunder (seriously fixed the WCF, no one talks about that), then in the finals guess who throws the series? James Harden. And he threw it hard. Both Durant and Westbrook showed up, but Harden gave the series away. it was so conspicuous i wondered why no one was calling for an investigation into Harden that series.
Lebron lost this series on purpose. He knew if the Heat won, Wade would have been finals MVP. Lebron is a narcissist, so he couldn't handle someone on his own team getting more credit than him.
Kind of a weird take because isnt a finals loss worse than no mvp for his legacy? Let’s not forget this Dallas team swept the defending champs in Kobe and the Lakers in the semis and beat KD in his prime in the WCF. Everybody calls this the Lebron ‘choke’ but isn’t it more likely he just doesn’t live up to the hype and got exposed by Dirk in his prime and a veteran team who had a score to settle with Miami? A perennial playoff team of real alpha males who put in yeoman’s work, playing basketball the right way beating an overhyped overrated bunch of girly man pretenders (Wade being a minor exception, imo he wouldn’t have beat the Mavs in 06 without Shaq and we’ve all heard the rumors about how he gets down) The disrespect to Dirk’s legacy - a real working class hero type player - spent his whole career with one team and even took multiple paycuts to stay in Dallas is irritating - he went to battle year after year in a stacked Western conference with Duncan/Kobe/KD/Steve Nash etc - he was the anti Lebron. He earned that chip through blood sweat and tears. He was a real one not some bitch made fake pretender like Leflop.
@@CyTolliver we all know that. Everything you Said. Nevertheless, his performance was bizarre in this series. Dude was in his physical PRIME. With a stacked team. With the legendary Dwayne Wade. And he just disappeared. Totally bizarre
@@stevencoardvenice you may but I can’t tell you how many people I’ve heard/seen discussing that series/era who were 5 years old in 2011. Also he was never as good as he and the media made him out to be. He set the standards so high - just more proof in a litany of examples why he doesn’t belong in the 🐐discussion but here we are.
He was passing fast, literally nothing more than the guy who swings the ball. I didn't include it all for the sake of time, but yep, it happened a lot.
@@AngryOldHoops I'd love to see a video of just Lebron saying this and other dumb crap. "I speak from an educated mind" "People are still going to get up and have the same problems they had today" plus the whole take on China & Daryl Morrey.
Deshawn Stevenson use to psychologically attack LeBron back during the Wizards and Cavs battles early in his career. He always defended LeBron pretty decent.
Imagine LeBalco guarding prime MJ. It would be a slaughter. How can anyone say that LeFlop is a good defender if he can't even guard a 6'2" Jason Terry.
Jordan would have made him look like a clown. Hell, Scottie would have made him look like a clown. Don't even need MJ to cook that bum. Toni could have come off the bench and dropped buckets all over his ass. Dude sucks bad.
Look at how dwade was playing weak side on defense on almost every play while lebron sat flat footed like he was trying to box out a player no where near him
Hey I remember deshawn Stevenson. He was a terrible player. A mediocre 3 point shooter, But the guy put all the Energy in defense. I miss those players.
I remember DeShawn was one of the first to call LeBron overrated, then after that a whole beef happened that included Jay Z making a diss song about DeShawn 😂 good times
The Heat literally could not space the floor because of LeBalco’s in effectiveness on offense and some how someway fan boys will say “he needed more help” or “ the MaVeRIcKs wEre A sUpErTeAm”
The great thing about Lebron playing as long as he has is that if he retired a few seasons ago he’d never be exposed for the fraud that he truly is. During Miami’s championship run when Shaq and GP were there DWade was arguably the 2nd best 2 guard in the league behind Kobe but there was nothing Lebron could learn from a Finals MVP and league leading scorer. Lebron is a clown.
D Wade was the 1st jersey I ever bought when I was 18. Lebron's excuse for this series is his body was getting used to the Balco. Lebron always plays like he's small, the league's supersoldier "serum" must've made him big. On a serious note that clown has always been smoke and mirrors. The league and media unjustly made Chalmers the scapegoat for all of his shortcomings. Dirk showed him what clutch is.
It's never talked about how bad lebrons stance on defense has been his whole career even now he's always hopping and crossing his feet. All the good defenders SLIDE their feet. It's defense FUNDAMENTALS which he lacks. Its crazy no coach has taught him that.
This is why the heat had to switch to a hybrid of the LeBron James system the very next season. He needs to be the center piece. If he's not involved in the play he turns into a Statue
Wade - Melo - Kyrie and other players that need mention- even to an extent - KOBE. Had been drowned out by this victim loving- LeBum and his sniffers 😮.
these lebron fans and youtube short highlight reel kids are actually trynna push kobe out of top 10 all time, and claiming that people got him top 3 top 5 only because he passed away... Actually shameless propaganda machines
@@Reaper13-hi3yo You mean that Bulls that lost to a 57 win Knicks in the second round, then won only 47 the following season?? Wow.. I didn't know people who watched 90s basketball have the loser mentality of today's players.. Calm down Lebalco fanboy, we don't tolerate that nonsense here.. We don't celebrate participation trophies
@@Reaper13-hi3yo I love it when dumbasses bring that up because it's always something that they heard a LeBron stan say once & never actually thought about it & verified themselves. The 1994 Bulls completely reloaded their roster after Jordan left, including bringing over Tony Kukoc finally, plus adding Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, & more. Not to mention that Horace & Scottie simply got better as they were still young players at the time. That wasn't even CLOSE to the same team as in 1993 - but yeah please keep talking about how the Bulls just subtracted Jordan & were still amazing (as if there's almost no achievement gap between an NBA title and a 2nd round exit lmao). Oh and let's not forget, that playoff series win you want to heap praise on them for was against the Cavs, who's best player was Mark Price... Yeah they didn't need MJ at all you twat 🤣
AOH…….you’ve really PISSED ME OFF!!! Not because of your EXCELLENT video but bringing back the memories of the angst, frustration & anger I felt towards LeBust James during this series. It was this game that I realized that he was mentally soft and didn’t belong in the class of elite competitors. I feel like @SportsAndFitnessRants….we got to hold these people accountable and to a standard of Excellence otherwise they will run our sport (and society) into a sh*thole. It’s so obvious now that they have been pushing this FAKE as$ Lebron NARRATIVE down our throats just like they’re trying to condition us to eat bugs (World Economic Forum). I hate to bring politics into this space but I think this Lebron thing is all part of a greater narrative at play here. EYES OPEN. EXCELLENT EXCELLENT work AOH. Thank you 🙏🏾.
Lebron has a negative impact on a teams system. His defense is garbage and his passing is over rated. He isn't this basketball genius that every claims. His Iq is average. All his points come from under the rim. No bag, bad shot forced because of his size and power.
LeBron's basketball IQ is so low the entire league had to implement a Switch Everything defensive model, so that way he'd know what he was supposed to do on that end of the court, no matter which team he Decisioned to next 😂
If you pause at 10:28 it is a turnover. His foot hits the floor and his fingers are still on the ball. JJ Redick and Lebron should break down games 1-6 of this 2011 finals since they wanna teach fans Xs and Os on their podcast.
The 2011 Dallas Mavericks team was fundamentally sound defensively. No easy layups for lebron. They would have made him earn his points at the free throw line. 2024 Marvericks and the entire NBA would have cleared the paint for Lebron to get an easy uncontested basket.
D Wade was clearly going to be finals mvp for the 2nd time. I think Lebron was upset by that and potentially threw this series. I watched every game live and have never seen something like that in my life.
My man, you didn't mention Wade's reaction after he came over to help Lebron after he gets burned by Terry. He blocks the shot and after the put-back Wade is absolutely disgusted by the incompetence around him. 👀 13:00
I forgot DeShawn Stevenson was guarding him, 6'5 and 210lbs and Terry was 6'2, 185 and old . . . on LeBron, who was a lot bigger here than people think. I played D 1 football and have seen countless tight ends and converted lineman who had to gain weight with similar build/frames, and I'm telling you if LeBron was an ounce under 285lbs in Miami, I'd be stunned. I never saw him in person, but in my opinion he was close to 300lbs and is still 285 today. Some guys will argue Shaq with me on this subject, but he proves my point, his weight was never updated, he admitted he weighed 415 at the most with the Lakers, then he got heavier after that. The media narrative is revising and imaging history, but it's been 14 years and I forget sometimes just how good Duane Wayde was. The revised narrative today is the Heat lost in 2011 because LeBron didn't have enough help. This was a loaded team, possibly the most loaded of the super team era. I really think, when you are honest and do the research, that LeBron was created to make a marketable star and he took over the marketing, but he was just a physical/athletic freak when he was younger, and that masked a lot of limitations.
This series ended the goat debate. Show me a single game or series that mj looked this bad or more importantly was the singular reason his team lost. Most overrated athlete in sports history.
In my time of watching basketball ive never seen a dude be so invisible on the court while getting a 40 point triple double, my dubs played LeBron 4 finals in a row and yet i was never scared of him, Kyrie, Love and JR yes but not Bron. He somehow doesn't really impact games at all
Missed that series from AOH. Wanted to have a go on another look from this finals after so many years. You didn't disappoint. I remember that empty scared look, like someone searching for his soul. Terry is jetting his way so easily. Like you said not only he played bad or watched the plays, he costed them the game then the series. Another player would at least try to do something. I thought also that his resting on D was something from the 2020s but apparently it's way from before. My guess is that he took no risks, was low profile when scared. Only could shine from time to time with opportunities from his teammates or the game going his way. This is so ugly. It's like players quitting on the playground because they had enough...
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D Wade was CLEARLY better than lebron up until 2011 and then he took a back seat to lebron in 2012 so lebron could be maximized by the team. Lebron should of taken a back seat to Wade, but if lebron isn't the focal point he is useless as we see here smh. He costed Wade a ring and finals mvp smh. He also has had his fan boys diminish Wades legacy. I remeber when we used to say Wade was a top 3 SG of all time back in 2012.
Lebron has to be the most overrated athlete of all time. Everything about him is overrated. His defense, his IQ, his offense, his passing, his rebounding, his clutchness. Is there anything about him that is underrated? Lebron is definitely that kid who would take his ball and go home if things werent going his way. Basically stop playing defense on me and let get a wide open lay ups. I'm sorry but this guy isn't top 10. He only won because he stacked the deck and had help from the refs as well. Without that he Would be ringless like James harden. Keep up the great work AOH 💪🏾. This was another surgical breakdown
If not by ray allen...miami would be beaten by spurs twice consecutively
That’s a bit much. Clearly part, I mean. Dwyane Wade actually caught a lot of NBA people off guard with how quickly he was able to be impactful, he also was like 2 to 3 years older than everybody in his draft class. I’d give 2006 to Wade due to more maturity and polish. Plus having an actual midrange jumper that murked the Mavs that Bron struggled with 5 years later. And in 2007 Wade was definitely better and was the best player in the league before throwing his shoulder out averaging 28/8/8 and then another injury riddled 2008. 2009 I’d personally give a slight edge to Wade even though LeBron won MVP. And this was when Kobe, LeBron and Wade were all on the same tier post Olympics. Kobe was now in his late prime and physical abilities were starting to become reduced and no longer was definitively the best player in the league as he was 2004 - 2008. D-Wade was at his peak. And Bron was entering his prime. I’d say 2010 they were neck and neck. Which is funny though because Dwyane Wade performed much better and with less help against the 2010 Boston Celtics defense that gave both late prime Kobe and early prime LeBron fits. I’d say 2011, they were neck and neck as well. Wade had a poor ECF against Chicago. He always seemingly struggled against, whether it was Kirk Hinrich’s underrated defense giving him issues in the late 00s. Or in that Conference Finals. And then we obviously know how LeBron totally shit the bed even worse for Miami in the Finals. I think D-Wade came to the realization that in order to win he had to feed LeBron’s ego and ball dominant style to maximize his abilities and motivations, Wade was mature and realized he had to take a back seat statistically and stylistically and play more off the ball. And he worked more on his post game. Which is really what allowed Miami to win. Because if he didn’t do that and they continue to play in the turnstile as they did in 2011, I don’t see them winning against even the young Thunder (even with the sus officiating) or the Spurs. He’s really the unsung selfless hero of that entire Heat era where Bron got the glory. Even in 2013, with his body, starting to break down, D-Wade had the biggest game on the road in SA in Finals game 3. And if you paid attention to the series, LeBron didn’t much of his stat accumulation after games have already been decided. He did the same thing in the 2014 finals when they got curb stomped, and by that point Wade’s body was a shell of itself. Would inspire LeBron to cowardly bolt on his “friend” without telling him ahead of time that summer. I feel bad D-Wade calls him a friend tbh. Dude didn’t even show up to his Hall of Fame induction. SMH
LeBUM is DUMB!!
So Wade was definitely better than LeBron in 2005, 2006, 2007 (pre injury), and 2009. 2010 and 2011 is a tie. And Bron gets 2008 (Wade injured), 2012 - Now
Drexler was better than Wade.
After "The Decision" it was decidedly clear this man would never be the GOAT.
This finals series was the final nail in the coffin for his "Goat" argument
Not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6
THANK YOU HE'S THE GREATEST LOSER OF ALL TIMES !! THE FLOPKING AKA THE DEER
Before the decision he wasn't even remotely close to goat status
I agree and in year 21 he's still not close to the goat conversation because his whole career was manufactured by the NBA executives ,the sports media and using p.e.ds.@@robglobal1
Wade's body language screams "bro,why are you even on the court?!" And i swear if you zoom in you can catch him staring daggers at LeBron for a split second
Bronze is the most overrated athlete of all time.
Yet he will never say anything!!!
Wade and LeBron didn't get along that first season. But after they took that gaycation together, where they slept in the same room looking sus. Things changed, at least for their relationship. It of course didn't help the team though, the refs helped the team the 2 years they won.
@@thecensoredmuscle563apparently the just needed to get one in and everything was good lol
@@Hooperville1974Why do you think no one speaks bad about the face of the nba ????? I’m surprised Isaiah Stewart isn’t rotting in the gleague or something
This was worse then i remembered and people try and tell me this guy used to be an elite defender ive been telling them he was never ever a great defender
Watch game 1, 2007, in San Antonio. Lebron does the same no-show. And bricks every shot. His team played hard tho, and did their best to stay in the game. Gooden, zadrunis, pavlovic. Verajao, snow etc
@@stevencoardvenice I can just imagine LeBots if the Cavs had won that. 100% credit given to LeFraud for sure but since they were swept we can all pretend like a 50 win 2nd seed team was awful.
It is worse because he has the ability to go under the radar by taking no risks, watch and get any opportunity to shine.
But with videos like this, he gets exposed really quick. And it's ugly.
The fact that Lebron did not find a way to attend Dwade's hof induction, in hindsight tells you that he has always been jealous of him and guys like Kobe and Dirk., who had the clutch gene and killer mentality. As you can see in this series, he absolutely threw this game as to not Dwade outshine him. Narcissistic to the bone
The best part of that series is LeBron crying on Bosh’s shoulder, while Wade looking disgusted at LBJ.
bosh spice shouldve thrown LEzesty ramone shames off his shoulder. that was a veri zesty moment.😅😅😅
Bosh regularly got thrown under the bus. I always thought he played very well for the heat
@@JJ_5289every lechoke's teamate has been thrown under the bus...
I don't know when, but when they start to talk , it will be funny...
Right now, the media doesn't want that, they still make money on this fraud...
Just like the Balco scandal they pretend that it doesn't even exist...
@@JJ_5289Bosh People don’t even realize how good Bosh was for the Raptors either
Lebron’s not playing defense, not attempting to rebound, not boxing out, not switching on picks… and this is year 7 of his career. You’d think he was a rookie the way he was a**ing up the court.
yeah were is his high Basketball IQ 🤣
Forest Gump had a higher sports IQ then Ledumb
He's repeatedly stuck in no mans land in this game. Not close enough to the basket to box anyone out or attempt to get the rebound. And on defense he's always a step behind which leaves him guarding no one and his teammates have to pick up the slack. On offense he's a step behind too. Not reacting fast enough to the double team and passing out of it. Or not attacking fast enough when he has an opening. He looks lost.
It shows he never needed to give effort before. He coasted on his natural talent and never worked to improve his game. He thought stepping on the court was enough. It's weird that someone played middle school, high school, and 7 years in the NBA and was still acting like this.
@@hanswurst-gl5hc To be fair, Gump got football nailed exactly as a kick returner. Catch ball, run like a motherfucker to the other end zone like life depends on it.
dont forget his great hand eye coordination skills in Ping Pong@@joepermenter7228
Actually this was year 8.
I was 19 that year. Remember it vividly, and this is a completely 100% accurate breakdown of how the events unfolded, although you still have to watch the full games to truly appreciate how awful LeBron showed himself to truly be.
One thing i will say is EVERY time a LeBron team has been beaten in the playoffs, the winning team has also had to beat the officiating. This even goes all the way to last year where the Nuggets had to hit every miraculous shot to win those games. Would be interesting to see an officiating breakdown of each of those playoff series.
Right I always think back to the 2016 finals were Steph was being tackled of the three point line with no calls, just recently thought about how dirty the calls were in the Cavs Boston series when Isaiah Thomas Celtics was fina end Bron early
Dang. I was 11 in 2011
Damn I remember so vividly being a LeBron fan at first during that time lol I was 18 and didn't know any better 🤦🏽♂️😂
This happened in tonight's game between the Nuggets and Lakers which was game 5. The Lakers shot 27 free throws to the Nuggets' 9. And the Lakers still lost. Without that discrepancy, the Nuggets easily would have won by 10 pts.
I couldn't agree more about the officiating conspiracy. the nba is a business and they hyped Lebron from day 1 so he'd drag in ratings. they were compelled to not let their business decision fail when it became clear just how awful he was. The problem now is the officiating that favored Lebron has leeched into the game at large and sunk league ratings.
If a replacement level player replaces LeBron in this series, the Heat win in 6. I didn't realize he was this bad in this series. Wow.
He shaved points
Yep
@Nysdaddy are yall really that gullible?
Same thing in the San Antonio sweep. If lebron had just hit his regular season average in those finals, CAVs would have won many games. He was the problem. Not his teammates, who played well
@wb…
Join reality.
I stopped watching NBA in 2018. I returned to find this community of creators exposing Lebron and this trash league. Thank you for your service.
me too. After Kahi won with Toronto, I could sense the direction the league was heading
I saw a clip recently of Shaq interviewing a player on the Rockets in a post game. Shaq said he hadn’t been familiar with the player’s game to that point, and the kid interjected “Ah, you’re a casual.” It sounded kinda funny in the edited clip but in reality, yes, the way the league has deteriorated, these guys have made die hard fans of the game into casuals by the trash we have to watch. Most of us say, no thank you. Wake us up when real basketball returns.
Poor D Wade really hurt his legacy by joining LeBron. 2 more rings but at what cost? He and Bosh could have gotten rings with someone else, especially with Ray Allen added. Instead D Wade is just another victim in the category of “LeBron had no help”.
Not to mention he had to spend the rest of his career on a gag order and promise not to talk shit about LeBron
I do not understand.
LeBron went on national television to announce his change to Muami. That ridiculous event was followed by the "stage show" to show his presence. The arrogance continued with 'not 1, not 2...".
How he (or anyone else), say Miami "let him down" has me perplexed.
This was planned. At the very least, Bosh and James colluded to make this happen.
@@Hooperville1974Kyrie Irving two I hate LBJ be so glad when he gets his karma
Wade and bosh could have joined Rose in Chicago with loul deng, joakim Noah with Jimmy butler and Taj Gibson off the bench.
What I remember about the Jason Terry and LeBron matchup was JET wasn’t scared and said LeBron couldn’t guard him before the series started. Terry torched LeBron all series long.
Outscored lbj in finals 😂😂
The Most i remember Is that suddenly Terry was not trying a lay UP against Lebron, he was traying a dunk AND in that moment Lebron finally sprint in defense AND foul him hard.
SUPER FACTS!!!! I remember him saying it in the pre series interviews
It was weird that they were even guarding each other in the first place. Even weirder that LeBron couldn’t put his little ass into the stanchion on every drive.
Then Bron acted like he redeemed himself on that bullshit 3-1 fast break poster when Jet was on Boston.
Lebrons egoism was so huge that he preferred his team to lose than see a teammate(Wade) win finals MVP instead of him
Lbj and his Stan's are more worried about finals MVP than winning the chip 😂😂
exactly
If LB ever decides he's done with life, he can end it by jumping off his own ego.
No, he just absolutely choked, there was no plan in this choke job
Thats more what it looks like. Zero effort all acting.
The goat shouldn't be outplayed by 5+ guys in a finals series.
Miami was always Wades Team
Wade is by far the Superior player then Lebron in any way
The Lakers are ADs team, if anything.
Wade county
Wade definitely had the grit and confidence to take over big games. But his body just broke down. Bosh had heart. But his body betrayed him too
@stevencoardvenice that happens when you play hard not just standing at top of the key like Lefraud
Period
The gap between LeFraud and Michael Jordan is Grand Canyon-sized
Literally an entire HOF career worth of accolades separate MJ and LeBron…
And that’s 21 seasons vs 13 😂
I'd love to see them one on one
Galaxy sized.
Honestly, I don't judge a great player by him missing shots, or making shots. What rubs me the wrong way about Lebron is the lack of effort, the antics when things don't go his way, and the way he carries himself. He quits. At least take some shots, and move with or without the damn ball in your hands!!! It's not just about having a bad series. If the Mavericks were just shutting down Lebron, contesting most of his shots, and making life difficult, that's one thing, but it's completely different when you don't even show up and give it your all. There were a ton of opportunities for Lebron to at least try to take advantage of, but he didn't. One thing I have noticed about Lebron over the entire course of his career is that he is a front-runner. The only time I have seen Lebrons teams come back from a deficit is when they have another spark on their team whether it was Bosh, Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Love, or other guys. I have never seen Lebron pull his team out of a rut when the offense, or defense is spuddering. That's what guys like MJ, and Kobe did. Whether their shots were falling, or not, they usually did everything in their power to pull their team out of a hole, and never stopped giving every ounce of effort they had in their body and mind. If their shots weren't falling, they would rebound the ball, play defense, force turnovers, score on hustle plays, and facilitate. They would keep pressing the issue until their shots finally did start falling for them. That's why they won so much more, and that's why they put the fear of God in their opponents hearts.
Lebron would have been the goat if he has even 20% of the mentality of MJ and Kobe.
@@RiskLight920it's the work ethic too. Bron looks for the easy way too much
And he cheats. Constantly.
@@RiskLight920 no he would not
Lebum never improved his skills in anything other then flopping
and his ball handling got worst
never is or was Top 10 material
I agree. People make mistakes, no one is perfect. But this goes well beyond making mistakes.
bro... w/o a doubt the MOST OVERRATED Plyer in the HISTORY of the Game........
my confusion is how was this guy able to guard Derrick Rose that season but couldn't guard Jason Terry??? can somebody help me understand this????
I don't know how anyone could have him near guys like Olajuwon, Bird, Magic, Iverson, Kobe etc..let alone trying to shove him into a goat debate between him and MJ? He doesn't even make my top 10.
@@perpetualmotion357 amen
Did you see that play Terry blew by LeBron and Wade blocked his shot at the rim, how mad Wade was at LeBron 😂 😂 😂. He looked right at him and yelled and spiked the ball. Lmmfaooooo.
@@RyanMrTsunamiBishop XD... dude it's crazy to see but this guy has always been a fraud..... man
And they swear up and down he can guard 1-5
maybe the opposite way.. 5 position can guard lebron..
Everything have been media driven with lies with this dude
Maybe he played zone defense and LeMedia started coping about that 😂 a few things are for sure: it's not for full games, it's not star players, it's never a lock down and it's never in the playoffs
It’s because they always showed that footage of him boxing out Pau Gasol. “Omg Bron can guard any position 😩”
@@Serching4JerryGarcia I think it was the block on Tiago Splitter in the 2013 finals 🤣🤣🤣🤣Tiago Splitter and this dude can’t guard the BS that comes out of that lying azz mouth
Dude has no handle, can't get himself a real shot unless he gets some illegal screens set for him. He absolutely froze in this series. I remember this happening and being relieved the Lebron vs Jordan debate was dead and buried. Boy was I wrong.
Nobody, with any understanding of basketball, that is being honest, thinks this bum is even in the same dimension as MJ. It is completely absurd to compare him to MJ. He's not even in the top 50 players of all time. A stat padder that's been allowed to rim run uncontested for 20 years. He would have been a mediocre player in the 90s. And wouldn't have started on several teams. A 6th man at best.
@@KG-kq9tk lol yea, I can't stand LeBron as much as the next guy but it's hard to not have him in the top 10 and it's crazy to have him outside of the top 15. IF we are talking just about basketball. Of course, this series right here was probably the low point of his career, if you judge him based on just this he isn't top anything. He did have many other playoff runs and finals series where he was a lot better, especially a pretty phenomenal series against the Warriors. Personally I would have him behind both MJ, Bird, Magic and Kareem, and maybe behind Kobe and Duncan. But that's about it.
Interesting point you brought up about how lebron looked in 2011. He has aged a lot in 13 years. The aging doesn't even look normal when you compare. Also a lot of people say that this series is what ended the goat debate. I don't even agree he was ever good enough to be in the debate. Not with that skill set. Jordan is light years superior to lebron james in all things basketball related.
Jordan is superior in everything related to lebron,mj movie didn’t flop,mj shoes is still the highest selling,mj character is nothing but classy everything mj touches becomes valuable p,everything lebron touches…well u see the results
Constant exposure to HGH/exogenous testosterone will do that to you
The rest of his career is also not GOAT worthy i agree, but even if he turned into MJ for the remainder of his career this would still disqualify him in advance.
He would have had to absolutely shatter MJ's accomplishments to even he considered after this choke job.
I mean people put him in the goat debate before winning anything. They kept him innit despite getting swept. They kept him innit despite quitting on his Cavs team. They kept him in it after this debacle. It’s insane.
Aged a lot in 13 years? I wonder much different a 3 year old will look when they hit 16 lol. I wonder how much different a 17 year old will look when they hit 30. Some ppl age faster than others. His aging isn't a product of steroids or whatever you wanna say he's doing. Homie just aged a little faster than some others do. Hell I aged faster than I would've wanted to and I'm 40 and never done steroids. Some ppl in my grad class still look pretty young. It just happens. Ultimate Warrior was on that juice and he looked pretty good for his age for a while.
I VIVIDLY remember this game as the moment I couldn’t believe they were touting this guy as the best. I remember him DOING NOTHING and getting enraged because I was like how is no one else seeing this??! I felt like I got transported to a weird parallel dimension where obviously weak men can be “number 1”. I literally said how can anyone compare this man to Jordan…somehow this lie still persists.
The better your BS detector gets the more you'll run into situations like that where you'll be questioning if you're the crazy one or if everyone else is just blind.
Applies to much more than basketball ofc.
@@DebasedAnon "Who do you trust? The media and all the people they have conned, or your lying eyes?"
@@DebasedAnon once you start noticing certain things, you can never run unsee them. the biggest one for me is ✡️✡️ and their bs
@@c99kfmI trust im my eyes.
This is crazy you are right it’s worse than I thought
Great breakdown video AOH. I remember this series like it was yesterday.
Media went into crisis management mode after this series. Just remember folks, this is who the media claims have the highest iq in nba history
How dare you speak so blasphemously about our highly intelligent melanated Kang James 👑
crisis management. Yep.
And then they rigged the 2012 finals.
@@samuellittle1286he was kangz
@@Marlowe10100 That first game against OKC was suspect. But Harden completely craped the bed
'That right there made me realize I wasnt gonna show at DWades HOF speech f that guy'
Wait…he didn’t!?!?!
Nope. And they’re “friends” … MJ and Scottie were close coworkers and not friends, and you didn’t see that type of shit. And MJ always gave him props
He didn’t show up to Kobe’s funeral or his statue unveiling.
He’s such a fraud man it’s insane.
Dirk is literally greater all time than lebron
I bet you if Kobe was still alive, even he would have attended D Wade's HOF induction ceremony.
and then you could see him someplace else with draymond.. what a disgrace he is!!! 🤡
The thing with Jason Terry is that he wasn't even in his prime in this season. Yes he was a really good player and they called him The Jet, but he was 33 years old here, not the fastest or best version of Terry.
Yah, he was just an airplane at this time lol
Facts
The best Terry was in Atlanta if I remember correctly.
@AOH - Of course us old NBA fans remember DeShawn Stevenson. If you remember when DeShawn played for the Wizards in the mid 2000's - he called Lebron "overrated". This made the LeSPN headlines. I wonder if LeFraud's fragile EGO remembered that? Perhaps that lead to his frozen trance for this series? I have better footage of all of 2011 if you're interested - you know how to reach me and get it brother. Keep up the great footage been watching all morning instead of actually working.
better quality!? Yep, I'll hit you up
I absolutely remember Stevenson. When the cavs won that series, Jay z released a dissed track "blow the whistle" aimed at Stevenson.
I believe Stevenson was also calling LeBron soft that series. When Dallas won this series, Stevenson wore a shirt saying "LeBron how my dick taste"
@@AngryOldHoopsAOH, when are you going to do a video on the 95 Bulls losing to Orlando. It was rust from MJ from so much time off, right? That's why he averaged 32.5/6/6 against CHA in the 1st round. 6 for 6 though right?
@@Reaper13-hi3yo This comes off as a gotcha kinda comment, but I wouldn't mind the content regardless of the motivation.
@@danielgloyd4529yeah. The other thinks he’s being clever and has a “gotcha!” moment, but MJ didn’t just take time off, he completely changed sports. His muscle memory, his mechanics, everything was aimed at playing a completely different sport for a year and a half.
With that being said, it’s not an excuse. He lost. We don’t give him credit for losing. He didn’t quit on his team, though. He came back and won 3 straight for the second time. Something LBJ hasn’t even done once, with all that help.
6/6 means in the NBA FINALS.
You know, the place where LeBron is 4-6? 😂
LeFraud Blames calling himself the GOAT is the biggest joke in Sports History!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
THANKS YOU LE GARBAGE CRYBABY JAMES
yeah if 2016 makes him the GOAT according to him then what does 2011 make him in his eyes?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LeFraud Blames 😂😂😭
how anyone thinks lebron was an elite defender is beyond me.
LeBron on defense always looks to me like he is about to fall over. He is so off balance and his footwork is atrocious! No wonder he was getting burned by the jet.
I've always hated how people try to change history so much around Dwayne Wade. He was an amazing player. And people act like he never was good at all. Why? As AOH said, to make Lebron seem better than he is. That simple. In that Heats team, it was Wade the Bosh as the best on that team and watching the games it's so obvious. The most known picture of Lebron/Wade is literally Wade stting Lebron up for an easy dunk. That says it all.
Wade realized that after this loss to the Mavs that if he didn’t take a backseat to Lebron they would never win.
You casuals pay way to much attention to other casuals on social media who were in diapers during these games and wades prime. I have literally never seen one prominent basketball mind ever say or act like wade was “never good at all” in fact all I’ve seen is praise putting him as the third best SG of all time behind MJ and Kobe. Please name these people that said this about wade.
@@jakeman025 there is no sg rankings you casual
Just watched a vid on Mavs "magical title run," which highlighted Dirk's incredible performance but also how Lebron choked so hard lol. Excited to watch your in depth analysis of LeChoke.
Jason the Jet Terry single-handedly put to rest the LeBron James goat conversation after that series 😂
d.wade really wanted to win this series and showed that he is the best player in the heat
Think about wade fully healthy no injuries that shows you how he could have been more capable
Where them fmvp? Why he avg 14 pts in 2014 finals?
It's really funny that people try to push LeBitch as the GOAT when he wasn't even the best player on his own TEAM on the Heat OR the Lakers 😂
What did he have, 3 or 4 blocks under the rim just in this period!!?
@@j.l.4054 yup bro so true
It's like he was so big and athletic coming up that he never learned any skills other than giving up the ball. I remember the narrative of those willing to criticize LeBebe back then was that someone with such a size/power advantage should learn how to use it better. Post/mid-post, work for position instead of just floating on the perimeter waiting for a lane to open up. Well, 13 years later and it never happened.
Love how he missed that opportunity for a chance down block. His “signature” move fan boys point to as evidence that LeBalco is a great defender 😂😅
And they say he deserves a statue in Miami
hell no. Fuck that. Who's saying that? Has to be LeBron fans or people in the media I assume
HOW CAN HE EVEN THINK ABOUT A STATUE?
Wade has more rings (3) to his 2!!!
Wade did it WITHOUT a super team!
I don’t see how anybody could try and defend this performance….I didn’t even realize it was this bad tbh
I just recently tuned 11 years old when I saw this series and I remember it being bad, but damn bruh not this bad. Seeing it as and older person it really pisses me off, since I hear nothing but excuses whenever I mention this series to anyone.
You absolutely need to do a 2013 game 4 breakdown. The heat were down 1-2 in the series and Wade proved he was Batman by putting his team on his back and saving that series while lebron ran up his stat line in garbage time against the Spurs bench after Wade had put the game out of reach.
the 2012 series was such a fix job. The refs made the spurs lose to the thunder (seriously fixed the WCF, no one talks about that), then in the finals guess who throws the series? James Harden. And he threw it hard. Both Durant and Westbrook showed up, but Harden gave the series away. it was so conspicuous i wondered why no one was calling for an investigation into Harden that series.
Well, this one is a good start. ruclips.net/video/1dorl_KLWdM/видео.html
Almost feels like he is throwing the game on purpose
Nah, he was just frozen with fear. They stuck his ass in the coffin 😂 Jason Terry worked his ass. 😂 Destroyed his confidence. What a bum?
Lebron lost this series on purpose. He knew if the Heat won, Wade would have been finals MVP. Lebron is a narcissist, so he couldn't handle someone on his own team getting more credit than him.
That's scary to contemplate
Kind of a weird take because isnt a finals loss worse than no mvp for his legacy? Let’s not forget this Dallas team swept the defending champs in Kobe and the Lakers in the semis and beat KD in his prime in the WCF. Everybody calls this the Lebron ‘choke’ but isn’t it more likely he just doesn’t live up to the hype and got exposed by Dirk in his prime and a veteran team who had a score to settle with Miami? A perennial playoff team of real alpha males who put in yeoman’s work, playing basketball the right way beating an overhyped overrated bunch of girly man pretenders (Wade being a minor exception, imo he wouldn’t have beat the Mavs in 06 without Shaq and we’ve all heard the rumors about how he gets down) The disrespect to Dirk’s legacy - a real working class hero type player - spent his whole career with one team and even took multiple paycuts to stay in Dallas is irritating - he went to battle year after year in a stacked Western conference with Duncan/Kobe/KD/Steve Nash etc - he was the anti Lebron. He earned that chip through blood sweat and tears. He was a real one not some bitch made fake pretender like Leflop.
@@CyTolliver we all know that. Everything you Said.
Nevertheless, his performance was bizarre in this series. Dude was in his physical PRIME. With a stacked team. With the legendary Dwayne Wade. And he just disappeared. Totally bizarre
@@stevencoardvenice you may but I can’t tell you how many people I’ve heard/seen discussing that series/era who were 5 years old in 2011. Also he was never as good as he and the media made him out to be. He set the standards so high - just more proof in a litany of examples why he doesn’t belong in the 🐐discussion but here we are.
@@CyTolliver i think he's an all time great. Like magic. Bird kobe etc.
You see when lebron has no confidence he start passing the ball non stop…
He was passing fast, literally nothing more than the guy who swings the ball. I didn't include it all for the sake of time, but yep, it happened a lot.
I remember that final and LeBalco looked so lost guarding Jason Terry the whole series,Terry simply cooked The Queen James 😂🩼🧪🤡
The only reason Wade's game dropped below Lebron's is injuries. In his prime while healthy, Wade was a better player.
People sure are in fact, "spoiled by his play".
like spoiled milk
LeNarcissist
We're spoiled by his flopping and crying
@@AngryOldHoops I'd love to see a video of just Lebron saying this and other dumb crap. "I speak from an educated mind" "People are still going to get up and have the same problems they had today" plus the whole take on China & Daryl Morrey.
Dude was a straight up liability in this series
He's constantly getting carried.
straight up liability for sure
Deshawn Stevenson use to psychologically attack LeBron back during the Wizards and Cavs battles early in his career. He always defended LeBron pretty decent.
If anyone ever criticises Ben Simmons, then they need to do the same to BalcoBoy too 09:17
Keep it up, you are appreciated and watched, and respected, and your providing a great service of honesty. You are the highlight of RUclips.
9:22 the original ben Simmons
Was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
I hope someone makes a gif out of this. A really great meme.
He mocks the other teams player, insinuating he was faking an excuse. Meanwhile, LeBron always faking excuses.
Imagine LeBalco guarding prime MJ. It would be a slaughter.
How can anyone say that LeFlop is a good defender if he can't even guard a 6'2" Jason Terry.
And LeBron fans try to downplay Muggsy Bogues.
Let's add another context, a 33 yr old 6'2" Jason Terry
Jj Barea cooked him too .. JJ is 5"11
Jordan would have made him look like a clown. Hell, Scottie would have made him look like a clown. Don't even need MJ to cook that bum. Toni could have come off the bench and dropped buckets all over his ass. Dude sucks bad.
Love these vids AOH. Keep it up! Very entertaining.
I’m surprised LeBum doesn’t get your videos removed. How dare you show the people what he has done!
Look at how dwade was playing weak side on defense on almost every play while lebron sat flat footed like he was trying to box out a player no where near him
Hey I remember deshawn Stevenson. He was a terrible player. A mediocre 3 point shooter, But the guy put all the Energy in defense. I miss those players.
I remember DeShawn was one of the first to call LeBron overrated, then after that a whole beef happened that included Jay Z making a diss song about DeShawn 😂 good times
Love how you show the truth don’t stop you are the Goat
The Heat literally could not space the floor because of LeBalco’s in effectiveness on offense and some how someway fan boys will say “he needed more help” or “ the MaVeRIcKs wEre A sUpErTeAm”
The great thing about Lebron playing as long as he has is that if he retired a few seasons ago he’d never be exposed for the fraud that he truly is.
During Miami’s championship run when Shaq and GP were there DWade was arguably the 2nd best 2 guard in the league behind Kobe but there was nothing Lebron could learn from a Finals MVP and league leading scorer. Lebron is a clown.
Man if they had left LeBron in Cleveland, Wade and Bosh probably get at least 3 maybe 4 rings straight
D Wade was the 1st jersey I ever bought when I was 18. Lebron's excuse for this series is his body was getting used to the Balco. Lebron always plays like he's small, the league's supersoldier "serum" must've made him big. On a serious note that clown has always been smoke and mirrors. The league and media unjustly made Chalmers the scapegoat for all of his shortcomings. Dirk showed him what clutch is.
“Super soldier serum” 😂😂😂
@@kirbyaugustine761 Let's add "prototype" to that, because it clearly didn't work right.
@@c99kfmRight. The last prototype that is
LeBron starring in the 3rd 'I Am Legend" movie........ "I Am Not Legend" is the concept title
It's never talked about how bad lebrons stance on defense has been his whole career even now he's always hopping and crossing his feet. All the good defenders SLIDE their feet. It's defense FUNDAMENTALS which he lacks. Its crazy no coach has taught him that.
LeButt’s never been coachable.
james is basically ben simmons that attempted 3s
I still have all the games of the 2011 finals recorded on vhs tapes
Please post. Nail in the coffin
why were you still using vhs tapes in 2011 lol?
@@MarsofAritia as opposed to what?
@@DSPHistoricalSociety a dvr?
@@MarsofAritiai didn't have one. Had a VCR tho and plenty of cheap tape 😎
I also am not tech competent
This is why the heat had to switch to a hybrid of the LeBron James system the very next season. He needs to be the center piece. If he's not involved in the play he turns into a Statue
Lbj be standing around like the statue of liberty
Wade - Melo - Kyrie and other players that need mention- even to an extent - KOBE.
Had been drowned out by this victim loving- LeBum and his sniffers 😮.
these lebron fans and youtube short highlight reel kids are actually trynna push kobe out of top 10 all time, and claiming that people got him top 3 top 5 only because he passed away... Actually shameless propaganda machines
They mocked Dirk after game 3, when they went up 2-1 in the series.
But he has a fever in this one...so Dirk was sick in both games?
@@AngryOldHoopsAOH, which team in the 90's could lose its best player and still win 55 games & a playoff series aside from CHI?
get outta here jock sniffer@@Reaper13-hi3yo
@@Reaper13-hi3yo You mean that Bulls that lost to a 57 win Knicks in the second round, then won only 47 the following season?? Wow.. I didn't know people who watched 90s basketball have the loser mentality of today's players.. Calm down Lebalco fanboy, we don't tolerate that nonsense here.. We don't celebrate participation trophies
@@Reaper13-hi3yo I love it when dumbasses bring that up because it's always something that they heard a LeBron stan say once & never actually thought about it & verified themselves.
The 1994 Bulls completely reloaded their roster after Jordan left, including bringing over Tony Kukoc finally, plus adding Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, & more. Not to mention that Horace & Scottie simply got better as they were still young players at the time.
That wasn't even CLOSE to the same team as in 1993 - but yeah please keep talking about how the Bulls just subtracted Jordan & were still amazing (as if there's almost no achievement gap between an NBA title and a 2nd round exit lmao). Oh and let's not forget, that playoff series win you want to heap praise on them for was against the Cavs, who's best player was Mark Price... Yeah they didn't need MJ at all you twat 🤣
This the vid I been waiting for
Absolutely legendary, brother. This is a one of the greatest breakdowns I’ve ever seen.
This is the dude that just spoke on how he’s super smart on the court
LeFraud looking like a literal piece of BBQ chicken, with that red jersey on
Lmaooo this really emphasized how good dwayne wade was 😂
I thought these recent players are bigger stronger faster and they do the most load management.
@5:07 wow that was hardly a showtime ervin magic Johnson style clutch play. And he makes Terry seem like a 2001 Iverson
AOH…….you’ve really PISSED ME OFF!!! Not because of your EXCELLENT video but bringing back the memories of the angst, frustration & anger I felt towards LeBust James during this series. It was this game that I realized that he was mentally soft and didn’t belong in the class of elite competitors.
I feel like @SportsAndFitnessRants….we got to hold these people accountable and to a standard of Excellence otherwise they will run our sport (and society) into a sh*thole.
It’s so obvious now that they have been pushing this FAKE as$ Lebron NARRATIVE down our throats just like they’re trying to condition us to eat bugs (World Economic Forum). I hate to bring politics into this space but I think this Lebron thing is all part of a greater narrative at play here. EYES OPEN.
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT work AOH. Thank you 🙏🏾.
Satan is the father of Lies, and people like Lebron worship him.
Love your Content and work. Greetings from Germany. Keep it up aoh
Just look at the effort and competitiveness from DWade. Always involved in both offense and defense. That’s a real killer.
And bron says that Mark Gasol has his DPOTY trophy😂 what a joke🤲
Lebron has a negative impact on a teams system. His defense is garbage and his passing is over rated. He isn't this basketball genius that every claims. His Iq is average. All his points come from under the rim. No bag, bad shot forced because of his size and power.
LeBron's basketball IQ is so low the entire league had to implement a Switch Everything defensive model, so that way he'd know what he was supposed to do on that end of the court, no matter which team he Decisioned to next 😂
If you pause at 10:28 it is a turnover. His foot hits the floor and his fingers are still on the ball. JJ Redick and Lebron should break down games 1-6 of this 2011 finals since they wanna teach fans Xs and Os on their podcast.
The 2011 Dallas Mavericks team was fundamentally sound defensively. No easy layups for lebron. They would have made him earn his points at the free throw line. 2024 Marvericks and the entire NBA would have cleared the paint for Lebron to get an easy uncontested basket.
D Wade was clearly going to be finals mvp for the 2nd time. I think Lebron was upset by that and potentially threw this series.
I watched every game live and have never seen something like that in my life.
My man, you didn't mention Wade's reaction after he came over to help Lebron after he gets burned by Terry. He blocks the shot and after the put-back Wade is absolutely disgusted by the incompetence around him. 👀 13:00
I'm not gonna lie I'm a member but all these vids needs to be released for the public it's too much truth low-key a waste
OK, tomorrow.
@@AngryOldHoops THank you for that my friend, you have no idea of the public service you provide in exposing this clown
@@AngryOldHoopsAppreciate the work man. My 18 year old and his friends are hooked on your channel. We have some youngin's that understand
@@donaldcummings8407 completely agree vids like this are just like holy water to these fanboys
@@donaldcummings8407you and Uncut Hoops are doing God’s work
LeBron channeling his inner Ben Simmons.
Lmao
Love the breakdowns!
I forgot DeShawn Stevenson was guarding him, 6'5 and 210lbs and Terry was 6'2, 185 and old . . . on LeBron, who was a lot bigger here than people think. I played D 1 football and have seen countless tight ends and converted lineman who had to gain weight with similar build/frames, and I'm telling you if LeBron was an ounce under 285lbs in Miami, I'd be stunned. I never saw him in person, but in my opinion he was close to 300lbs and is still 285 today. Some guys will argue Shaq with me on this subject, but he proves my point, his weight was never updated, he admitted he weighed 415 at the most with the Lakers, then he got heavier after that.
The media narrative is revising and imaging history, but it's been 14 years and I forget sometimes just how good Duane Wayde was. The revised narrative today is the Heat lost in 2011 because LeBron didn't have enough help. This was a loaded team, possibly the most loaded of the super team era.
I really think, when you are honest and do the research, that LeBron was created to make a marketable star and he took over the marketing, but he was just a physical/athletic freak when he was younger, and that masked a lot of limitations.
Thats a great point i have a friend who is 6,9 290 and looks smaller than LeBron. Their is no way he is 250
Seeing wade get hung to dry trying to block Chandler at his height is so respectable man...thats how bball was and he wasnt blaming other ppl
He's an athletic freak with very poor fundamentals.
Not enough videos like this.
This series ended the goat debate. Show me a single game or series that mj looked this bad or more importantly was the singular reason his team lost. Most overrated athlete in sports history.
U should cover the 2007 final too
Yes please do that
Love your videos my brother. Keep up the good work.
In my time of watching basketball ive never seen a dude be so invisible on the court while getting a 40 point triple double, my dubs played LeBron 4 finals in a row and yet i was never scared of him, Kyrie, Love and JR yes but not Bron. He somehow doesn't really impact games at all
That's advanced hating
Missed that series from AOH. Wanted to have a go on another look from this finals after so many years.
You didn't disappoint. I remember that empty scared look, like someone searching for his soul.
Terry is jetting his way so easily. Like you said not only he played bad or watched the plays, he costed them the game then the series. Another player would at least try to do something.
I thought also that his resting on D was something from the 2020s but apparently it's way from before. My guess is that he took no risks, was low profile when scared. Only could shine from time to time with opportunities from his teammates or the game going his way.
This is so ugly. It's like players quitting on the playground because they had enough...
Where’s that legendary IQ of LeBron James that LeBron James, the fanboys, fangirls, and LeMedia tells us LeBron James has? 😂😂😂
What sad is Terry basically makes rhe same move every time he uses the screen. Highest basketball IQ ever lebron cant figure it out