I'd always been on the fence about the Fused, because of its shape. Also the same reason why I love my Intense so much. You described the differences between these spot on, and the most valuable part of it for me was when you explained the situations for which either type of shape would be useful. I really value these breakdowns you do, keep it up!
I love this comparison video. Using OG footage from the Fused was a great Idea as we can definitely see the "true" differences between the two balls. The shapes on the back-ends are truly evident and it helps me tremendously on making my decision on which one to purchase as I don't have the Fused either. Great job Luke!!! As always!!
Hey Luke, I’m doing a giveaway for the Intense Fire and many people are choosing you as their favorite staffer. Keep up the good work Brother! Love your videos!
Would have liked to see the Fire rolled at different lines. I just bought the ball drilling tomorrow as well would be nice to explain the difference with pin set.
Hi Luke, big fan here! I have the intense, and absolutely love it. Question, what would you recommend to complement it, for both situations, when the Intense is too strong as well as too weak, Cheers!!!
When the Intense is too weak, you're going to need something like a Sure Lock, there aren't many that hook more than the Intense. When it's too strong, the Fire might be a good step down or if that's too close, might go down to something like a Son!Q
I have the fused but I have lower ball speed so I don't have the problem with it that you do. My goes down stands up really pretty and pow love it. I like the colors of the other ball but I don't need it. I need something right now that is less aggressive when it's drier
Connie Milhollon venom shock pearl is a great ball for dry lanes imho I've had great success with over under shots as well with it seems to blend out pretty well
For collegiate bowling which one of these would you recommend? I would mainly use either of these when the lanes start to break down and transition a lot. You mentioned that the intense fire was more continuous and the fused just sets and hooks for more control on the backend. When the lanes break down I would think you would want something more controllable on the back end, so when you’re deeper inside it doesn’t just keep hooking. So I’m still leaning towards the fused as I was before this video but I want a second opinion! I also wanna base it off of what ball would suit my bag better. I own a roto idol (usually with surface as the first ball out of my bag), track mako (don’t really like it much, usually with surface), an eternal cell (probably will replace it with a show off or daredevil trick soon, sometimes with surface), a hustle ink (beautiful smooth ball for when the lanes break down but still hooks), a hywire, timeless, no rules pearl, hy road pearl and a pitch black. You have convinced me to buy many balls in my bag btw! Just want to know which ball, fused or intense fire, would be better suiting when the lanes break down and match up to my bag well! Thanks (: I’m on the fence with both, both look strong and good balls! Just wanna make the right decision with my money since I’m tough on money being in college! The intense fire’s continuation could also be a good thing too though. Sorry if it’s confusing to read I’m bad at writing 😂
ARtroncatbama I’m not really sure either is a good idea honestly, they’d definitely need the shine knocked off and I think they’re just too strong. By the time you’re done with your 1 ball, they’re going to be too strong to drop down to. Might look at like a Son!Q or something instead. If you don’t have an Idol, that’s definitely a college ball too.
Luke Rosdahl yup that’s what I was thinking they’re both so strong. And yep got an idol last year when it came out to replace my mako bc I couldn’t stand it. I still have the mako just won’t get used much
Sure I guess, they don't really take that long to put together actually . . and since I showed them both in the review I already have the video made, just have to add commentary and some slo-mo stuff!
Luke Rosdahl thanks. I never had an Intense but I know a few people who do. So I'm familiar with the shape. So seeing that conpared to the Fire would help.
So I haven't owned a Fused or Intense, but it doesn't matter cause I believe it would have replaced both of them in my bag. Drilled pin down kicked 30° and maaaaannnnn this ball kills it!!!!
Hey Luke I like hyper cell over other ball. But just got idol pearl go with my no rules, hyper cell, hustle ink. Do you think I need another ball some where around there. Or do you think that good set up for different oil patterns?
Yeah a huge fan. They carry differently than wood pins though, they're more active. They mix up better on light hits, but you'll get a few more taps, some solid back row leaves, but you won't get those light mixer 7s that drive me insane line with wood. Wood pins on new synthetic lanes just act dead to me. Twisters are also better for the center, they have 3 year warranties and cost about the same, so instead of buying new pins every year or trying to squeeze an extra year out of old pins, the center just has to buy pins every 3 years now which means they can spend that money on upgrades elsewhere. The savings on pins just bought my home center some nice upgrades, plus I like the pin action better.
We're an older center. Wood lanes, with guardian overlay(which I despise) and carry here is a little tough. I pitched the idea to the owner considering the cost and longevity versus wood pins. Thanks for the response Luke. Appreciate your videos.
Now I get to ask myself the real question, would this beautiful ball fit in well with my Black Ops and Badger, or do I even care since it looks so good haha.
Hey Luke, I have a Storm drive which I love it’s awesome on fresh but once it breaks down it rolls way to early and I need something to go longer but something I can still move left with. I was thinking Intense Fire vs Roto Grip Hypercell Fused. What do you think? Rev rate is 500 18 MPH.
I totally see it ..the fire goes through the deck like a symmetrical ball on steroids ..that’s the comparison of balls I was lookin for good stuff sir but let’s be real I was gettin the fire anyway
The shine doesn't usually wear off, I don't ever add polish, I just kind of let them get to where they get to and then stay there, lane shine/wear usually works best for me
I wanna ask you some advice. I have marvel pearl for my first ball and i just love it so much. But i want stronger ball to hook when the oil is too long for my ball. Any advice? Timeless, drive, code X and hyper Cell Fused or if you have more option. Please
Tyler Miller Not close, about similar hook potentials but waaaay different shapes. Great compliments to each other though. No Rules Pearl is earlier and smoother, very controllable and predictable
How does this compare to the Code Red? Would it make a good addition to my bag? Already throwing the Code Red, Surelock and A Dare Devil Danger. Thanks.
lovewinson3 The Halo Pearl has a similar shape on the lane. It’s a little longer and a couple boards weaker than the Fused, but similar hook/set motion
No, skid flip is describing a sharper shape overall, hook/set is when the ball stops and goes on a straighter line in the direction of the rotation instead of being more continuous
Great game. I've tried the fused; but in my opinion, the Eternal Cell gave me a more consistent reaction than the fused did. The fused just may not have been right for my release
Hi Luke. I thrown about 15.5mph with a 280 rev rate on a 42ft house pattern. Which ball of these two would better fit my style and which one carries better? looking to step down from code x.
@@LukeRosdahl Hi Luke. So our distributor (Classic Products) is out of Hyper Cell Fused in multiple where houses nationwide (except Washington state). Is this ball being discontinued?
first ball iv ever bought was the hyper cell fused and I love it. The shop guys said it was to much ball for me but I seem to do pretty good I'm no pro but I got my first turkey with it!!!!! I want to buy one to stash.
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I'd always been on the fence about the Fused, because of its shape. Also the same reason why I love my Intense so much. You described the differences between these spot on, and the most valuable part of it for me was when you explained the situations for which either type of shape would be useful. I really value these breakdowns you do, keep it up!
I love this comparison video. Using OG footage from the Fused was a great Idea as we can definitely see the "true" differences between the two balls. The shapes on the back-ends are truly evident and it helps me tremendously on making my decision on which one to purchase as I don't have the Fused either. Great job Luke!!! As always!!
Helped me make a decision on the fire thanks man !
Hey Luke, I’m doing a giveaway for the Intense Fire and many people are choosing you as their favorite staffer. Keep up the good work Brother! Love your videos!
High Rev Bowling Oh wow, cool!! Thanks a ton!
Luke Rosdahl - you’re very welcome brother, I’m a big fan. Your knowledge of equipment is really impressive. Keep it up!
Would have liked to see the Fire rolled at different lines. I just bought the ball drilling tomorrow as well would be nice to explain the difference with pin set.
Joe Cruz I do have my wife throwing it as well on the actual review if you want to check that out
Amazing video... Great information and awesome to explain everything
Hi Luke, big fan here! I have the intense, and absolutely love it. Question, what would you recommend to complement it, for both situations, when the Intense is too strong as well as too weak, Cheers!!!
When the Intense is too weak, you're going to need something like a Sure Lock, there aren't many that hook more than the Intense. When it's too strong, the Fire might be a good step down or if that's too close, might go down to something like a Son!Q
Thanks!! I will be getting the Son!q then, i like how it looks too!
I have the fused but I have lower ball speed so I don't have the problem with it that you do. My goes down stands up really pretty and pow love it. I like the colors of the other ball but I don't need it. I need something right now that is less aggressive when it's drier
I have a video for the Hustle POW coming out in the next few days . .
Luke Rosdahl would angel be able to throw it. She plays more where I do
Yeah already got video of her throwing it!
Connie Milhollon venom shock pearl is a great ball for dry lanes imho I've had great success with over under shots as well with it seems to blend out pretty well
Luke Rosdahl ok missed that one I'll go back and look at it thanks
For collegiate bowling which one of these would you recommend? I would mainly use either of these when the lanes start to break down and transition a lot. You mentioned that the intense fire was more continuous and the fused just sets and hooks for more control on the backend. When the lanes break down I would think you would want something more controllable on the back end, so when you’re deeper inside it doesn’t just keep hooking. So I’m still leaning towards the fused as I was before this video but I want a second opinion! I also wanna base it off of what ball would suit my bag better. I own a roto idol (usually with surface as the first ball out of my bag), track mako (don’t really like it much, usually with surface), an eternal cell (probably will replace it with a show off or daredevil trick soon, sometimes with surface), a hustle ink (beautiful smooth ball for when the lanes break down but still hooks), a hywire, timeless, no rules pearl, hy road pearl and a pitch black. You have convinced me to buy many balls in my bag btw! Just want to know which ball, fused or intense fire, would be better suiting when the lanes break down and match up to my bag well! Thanks (:
I’m on the fence with both, both look strong and good balls! Just wanna make the right decision with my money since I’m tough on money being in college! The intense fire’s continuation could also be a good thing too though.
Sorry if it’s confusing to read I’m bad at writing 😂
ARtroncatbama I’m not really sure either is a good idea honestly, they’d definitely need the shine knocked off and I think they’re just too strong. By the time you’re done with your 1 ball, they’re going to be too strong to drop down to. Might look at like a Son!Q or something instead. If you don’t have an Idol, that’s definitely a college ball too.
Luke Rosdahl yup that’s what I was thinking they’re both so strong. And yep got an idol last year when it came out to replace my mako bc I couldn’t stand it. I still have the mako just won’t get used much
Luke Rosdahl thanks for the reply!
I feel the fused is the best of roto grip releases ever. It is simply a great ball.
Great review. Could you consider an Intense vs Intense Fire vid.
Sure I guess, they don't really take that long to put together actually . . and since I showed them both in the review I already have the video made, just have to add commentary and some slo-mo stuff!
Luke Rosdahl thanks. I never had an Intense but I know a few people who do. So I'm familiar with the shape. So seeing that conpared to the Fire would help.
The Quick Ball Reviews guys just put one up, so you might check that out until mine gets done
Luke Rosdahl great thanks
So I haven't owned a Fused or Intense, but it doesn't matter cause I believe it would have replaced both of them in my bag. Drilled pin down kicked 30° and maaaaannnnn this ball kills it!!!!
Hey Luke I like hyper cell over other ball. But just got idol pearl go with my no rules, hyper cell, hustle ink. Do you think I need another ball some where around there. Or do you think that good set up for different oil patterns?
Are you a fan of twister pins? We're considering getting them at my center. What are your thoughts on them?
Yeah a huge fan. They carry differently than wood pins though, they're more active. They mix up better on light hits, but you'll get a few more taps, some solid back row leaves, but you won't get those light mixer 7s that drive me insane line with wood. Wood pins on new synthetic lanes just act dead to me. Twisters are also better for the center, they have 3 year warranties and cost about the same, so instead of buying new pins every year or trying to squeeze an extra year out of old pins, the center just has to buy pins every 3 years now which means they can spend that money on upgrades elsewhere. The savings on pins just bought my home center some nice upgrades, plus I like the pin action better.
We're an older center. Wood lanes, with guardian overlay(which I despise) and carry here is a little tough. I pitched the idea to the owner considering the cost and longevity versus wood pins. Thanks for the response Luke. Appreciate your videos.
Now I get to ask myself the real question, would this beautiful ball fit in well with my Black Ops and Badger, or do I even care since it looks so good haha.
Shane Wright Haha yeah. It would go above the Black Ops, and is probably 4ish boards stronger than the HB
Hey Luke, I have a Storm drive which I love it’s awesome on fresh but once it breaks down it rolls way to early and I need something to go longer but something I can still move left with. I was thinking Intense Fire vs Roto Grip Hypercell Fused. What do you think? Rev rate is 500 18 MPH.
EliteSportsGaming Definitely Intense Fire, that’s what it loves to do, get left and wheel on it
I totally see it ..the fire goes through the deck like a symmetrical ball on steroids ..that’s the comparison of balls I was lookin for good stuff sir but let’s be real I was gettin the fire anyway
Is the fire a symmetrical ball? I prefer that type of ball
@@aidenjaxlol No it's an asymmetrical core. Both of these are.
@@aidenjaxlol If your looking for symmetrical; I think the Storm Torrent is the most recent with a symmetrical core. Give that one a view
How would you compare it to the halo pearl? Would you say it has more back end ?
Hi Luke, do you keep balls polished or let the shine wear off?
The shine doesn't usually wear off, I don't ever add polish, I just kind of let them get to where they get to and then stay there, lane shine/wear usually works best for me
I wanna ask you some advice. I have marvel pearl for my first ball and i just love it so much. But i want stronger ball to hook when the oil is too long for my ball. Any advice? Timeless, drive, code X and hyper Cell Fused or if you have more option. Please
What type of line do you play? And what is your speed/revs?
Hey Luke - how would you compare the Intense Fire to the No Rules Pearl?
Tyler Miller Not close, about similar hook potentials but waaaay different shapes. Great compliments to each other though. No Rules Pearl is earlier and smoother, very controllable and predictable
Luke Rosdahl thanks Luke!
Hey Luke, one more comparison question here. What differences do you see between the Code X and the Hyper Cell Fused?
I want a ball with a very strong angular backend. I do have continuous and traction balls. Any suggestions? I use 14lbs and on heavy oil patterns...
Anthony Gomes Hyper Cell Fused instantly comes to mind. It’s strong on the backend and strong overall so I think that’s what you want
How does this compare to the Code Red? Would it make a good addition to my bag? Already throwing the Code Red, Surelock and A Dare Devil Danger. Thanks.
David Reiterman If you watch my regular review I actually compare them! Fire is a juiced Code Red basically
I didn't catch that part. Thanks
Well it's in my actual review, this is just a specific ball to ball comparison and I didn't mention the CR in this one.
Found it thanks.
luke how would this ball and your no rules exist play together? would you drill it the same as your exist
cbdvil I did drill the both the same but lol they’re about as opposite as two balls can be
Ooh I know but if I put them in a bag together would that be a good 1 2 combo
cbdvil Yeah definitely
cbdvil Yeah definitely
what current ball has the hook/set reaction as the hyper cell fused?
lovewinson3 The Halo Pearl has a similar shape on the lane. It’s a little longer and a couple boards weaker than the Fused, but similar hook/set motion
Luke Rosdahl is the hook/set same as a skid flip ?
No, skid flip is describing a sharper shape overall, hook/set is when the ball stops and goes on a straighter line in the direction of the rotation instead of being more continuous
Shot 300 with my fused.
Great game. I've tried the fused; but in my opinion, the Eternal Cell gave me a more consistent reaction than the fused did. The fused just may not have been right for my release
Hi Luke. I thrown about 15.5mph with a 280 rev rate on a 42ft house pattern. Which ball of these two would better fit my style and which one carries better? looking to step down from code x.
Chris LaBrado Would probably go Fused, Fire is pretty easy down the lane already, Fire would be a couple steps down
@@LukeRosdahl Hi Luke. So our distributor (Classic Products) is out of Hyper Cell Fused in multiple where houses nationwide (except Washington state). Is this ball being discontinued?
@@chrislabrado900 No, it's still so popular they're having trouble keeping up with production!
1st Like 1st Comment! Lol
Twister synthetic pins , junk
Blasphemy!!! These things are awesome lol, better than bowling on dead Brunswick pins.
first ball iv ever bought was the hyper cell fused and I love it. The shop guys said it was to much ball for me but I seem to do pretty good I'm no pro but I got my first turkey with it!!!!! I want to buy one to stash.