Wow no.... even if you dnt like her, you can be marketed everywhere and still flop. *music industry* is a good ex. But with a show, and a public life like hers. *She had more chances to fuck it up then build it & somehow made it.* her personal instagram says it all... ●she is lit yall, #freemycuzin2○
@@crc5882 Wow no... I dont think anybody would dispute if she is "lit" or not but she is not NATURALLY skilled at marketing rather than skilled at marketing. If she wasn't born into money she wouldn't be in the position she is in now. She had many more advantages to help her skill than others and others still made it out because it came natural to them. #freemycuzin3
@@chrisrios802 u babies w/ this "advantage in life" ppl are dumb and went for the shiny statue on top, guess what would've happen if you didnt. *there's a model in your city rn you might be able to make money with* But oh yeah women and guys alike tend to go for the shallower things in life. Get mad at her for it... *she's wasn't wearing a mask w/nothin she does my guy, top that 🤨* #yocuzinDeservesthattime P.s fake ass for the win, or for dummies to click? Ahhhhhh, n now u see, I'm done. 🤡
@@chrisrios802" Naturally skilled at marketing..." you're making vanity a understatement, *when ppl would kill for the CLEAR MIND to actually pull it off* stop hating yall damn.
Talent is God gifted ability, whereas Skill is an expertise, which is acquired by the person by learning. In conclusion, Kim is more so skilled than talented.
I agree. I think her success says less about how talented she is and more about how obsessed with celebrity and easily enthralled with people with money consumers are.
that sex tape could’ve ruined her reputation real bad but she turned it around and put her family on just like Toni Braxton with her sisters....CATCH!!!
@@latoyajohnson8695 and put her family on? Lol her father is the one who put that family on. He was a prominent lawyer and they were millionares before the sex tape...
@@titanic8844 you completely missed the point just to hate 💀 nigga how many casual people in the world would know that Kim’s father was a famous lawyer? Cause I didn’t know that at all for the longest time ... she put her family on the map in the public eye LOL hate her all you want but Kim did that
There is a fine line between talent and skill. Marketing can be a talent of you have the natural ability without training to pull people on to like your products.
You can’t be in the entertainment business for this long and manage to outshine Kanye West in popularity to the point where people start to refer Kanye as Kim’s husband without having a talent.
@@selenat.4982 and yet the others aren't as popular as Kim (nevermind Rob). There's a reason Kris could do more with Kim (and Kim does a lot on her own) than the others.
I think we need to define talent vs. Skill. I see talent as something you’re born with; a skill is something that is learned.. marketing & business are skills not talents
Hmm I see your point in that some people are born with a talent of singing. But Simone Biles had to learn gymnastics. And she honed that skill into a talent.
@@EmorettaRobinson everybody that learns gymnastics don't become world class champions no matter how much they train. Simone showed early signs of being a 'natural' which was why people invested in honing her gift.
@@joannasaadati8810 I suppose that could be so. Maybe athleticism could be a talent that you're born with. But I think things like acting and writing is learned. Tyler Perry once said that there are better writers than him. Not sure why he doesn't work with them though
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
I want to know what specific business moves or marketing strategies Kim has implemented that makes her deserving of the title "talented". Opportunistic? Yes. Privileged? Yes. Resourceful? Maybe. But talented?? "Show me the receipts" in my Whitney Houston voice. Kim is the product of perfect TIMING, Access/Connections, and a non-stop circus of a family
@Darius Williams Who are these people? You left out timing and controversy. All of those things working in sync are what's benefitting her. In the culture we're in right now, you will "fall off" if you don't stay in the news. And with a family as big as hers, there's always some type of salacious mess going on with at least one of them at any given time. If being able to maintain that is a talent, then most of the RUclipsrs on here with millions of subscribers for eating crab legs are talented.
I'm not sure what counts as a lot for you but don't forget looks. No one is arguing though that she isn't very successful. Her popularity probably helped a lot in that regard but having some kind of business sense was probably needed to gain the level of success she has now. The question is how much of that business sense actually came from Kim K.
Eric Smith 🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’s a wack singer and mediocre actress. List her best vocal performances. She even had ghostsingers on some of her songs. List her great acting performances please.
M 360 list what Kim has done? Besides running through the industry lmao getting popular off a porn video it’s annoying to bring it up but it’s the TRUTH. Explain how Kim kardashian is talented but Jennifer Lopez isn’t?come on what world are we living in 😂😂😂 not even close
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard. JLo is not the most talented but she works hard. The Rock always says “be the hardest worker in the room”.
Couldnt we make the argument Kim did the same? She worked hard to make sure her name was known by every part of the world, she took every small gig until more doors were open and she hustled her way into being recognized in the fashion and modeling industry securing her status as influencer. Unlike all the rest of her sisters Kim makes sure to model, have a clothing line, a make up line, a successful video game and who knows what else. Im not arguing that she is talented but I think Kim is most definitely a hard worker
You have absolutely lost your mind. The credit you're giving her should rightfully go to her MOTHER!!! And I hate to say it but if it wasn't for OJ we wouldn't know any of them.
allthewayupNORTH _ Her mother sets up business deals. The reason why people wanna work with her in the first place is because of Kim. Get rid of the jealousy.
@@kazuto1905 everyone is talented then. We know good food when we eat it, good art when we see it, good music when we hear it. If identifying when someone is good at something is talent then let me go update my resume
Hey Quick random question..: I want to name my daughter with the letter ë with the double dots over it but what does that really mean and how do you pronounce your last name exactly. Does it change the whole word like an apostrophe does? Thanks😁
Jasmine love Hi, it’s actually my middle name. It’s actually called an umlaut/ diæresis. It just establishes a difference in sound. It’s kinda difficult to understand if you don’t use it in your everyday language and it also depends on the language how you’d pronounce it. Like the name Zoë (Zo- EE). My name is just pronounce like the word Sky. How come you want to use an umlaut or diæresis in her name if you don’t understand? I’m just genuinely curious.
@@angelique757 yeah, I wanted to use it for her middle name also because I thought it would change the vowel. Plus its VERY pretty and different, like the actress Zoë Saldana I did my research but I didn't find too much on it. I thought it changed the e sound to a y sound like " Lovë " would sound like " Lovie ", CORRECT me if im wrong..
@@deazy6453 No she isn't. One thing you can't call any of these new rappers and celebrities like Kim Kardashian is stupid. Because like Kev said she is making money off of exploiting celebrity culture the way she has. I don't like them, but they have my respect they are still on top and living it up because of their skills in exploitation. You can't call that stupid whatsoever.
*The J Lo angle proves Kev is being a bit of a hypocrite. It takes actual talent to be a dancer and learn choreographed routines. It takes talent to sing and perform. IT DOSENT TAKE TALENT TO BE BORN WELL OFF AND INVEST ONCE THE KARDASHIAN MOMENTUM STARTED. They could fart in a jar and it would sell millions. THATS NOT TALENT.*
L H J Lo is a decent dancer, but she’s nowhere near as talented as people like Janet& Michael, Chris Brown, or even Shakira. Kim may not be “talented,” as a performer, but she is extremely intelligent. Kim has created a financial empire with multiple business and investments that will allow her children, and their children and so on, to have a great head start in life. She could have just lived off of her inheritance, but she didn’t.
mariyaa111 everything that you said yes! And also the rich don’t stay rich by sitting on their butts they stay rich by making more money! Which is something that she is Fantastic at! And on top of that why people keep ignore that she’s also a model. Which nobody is about to tell me it doesn’t take talent for considering America’s next top model has 15+ seasons about learning to be a model and how it’s more than just taking a pretty picture.
If Kim Kardashian wasn't pretty there would be no keeping up with the Kardashians. Genetics is her talent. Marketers are assigned to the Kardashian case after the media realizes that everybody is talking about them for some reason. Then after the first proposal is a success they make more proposals then they make products and they come up with the marketing and they ask Kim what does she think. I guess saying " yeah that sounds good" is very talented. I mean the george Foreman grill was going to be the hulk hogan grill but something happened where he didn't take the deal and George foreman did. People really are sheep.
Kim and jlo are the same to me, tbh. She’s just the version of kim that speak spanish. She stole vocals, her dancing is good, not nearly as good as ciara, beyonce, and others. And she really can’t sing. Her acting’s good though, but she was all those mediocre things before she could get to her TRUE talent: acting 😁
Why Kev acting like Kim actually makes the products she sells. I don’t even think she comes up with the ideas or designs of her products. If shes not back there creating the makeup and designing the clothes then shes not talented. She has marketing skills but marketing is a talent. If you were in a talent show you can’t perform marketing!
The Kardashian/Jenner's only license their names to stuff and promote them. They're usually just the face. Others come up with the ideas and do the grunt work.
So ppl can’t have a natural talent for business at birth Like not every person who learns business is a millionaire like ppl can be academically talented too
There’s a difference between being good a marketing yourself and benefiting from celebrity. I agree with angel, KK hires a good team and has a mother with good business acumen.
SKILLS VS TALENTS!!!! Kim is very skilled and became that way over time with the help of her mother. None of them are really talented but have acquired great business and marketing skills
All y'all tryna seperate the two have never seen the definition of talent clearly. tal·ent /ˈtalənt/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. natural aptitude or skill. So here you go.
bigjayking24 I’m assuming that you and Kim kardashian never had any relations so obviously you aren’t included in the men I was referring to The words “Black men are her fanbase” did not cross my mind therefore transfer to type it on the screen I’m pretty sure my name is next to my picture and unfortunately it ain’t Ma
bigjayking24 😂 what was the point in commenting under my original comment if u didn’t expect to have a conversation So you can say what’s on ur mind arguing my original statement (which is normal ) But I can’t counter argue yours n you think u can dismiss me under MY shit 😂??! Please think before you speak boy
bigjayking24 my dude you don’t know me lol You are doing a whole lot of assuming. You actually sound intelligent so u should know when u assume you are also making an ass out of urself. So again I would suggest that u think before you speak . Are we done here ?! Because this is again MY shit that u have decided to comment under. Are You mad that I’m not gonna let u say whatever the hell u want (a question is not an assumption btw) “I’m just saying”
odetochef lol thats because they just recorded one long ass segment months ago and have been chopping it up into segments and releasing them bit by bit
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
So because Kim knows that people are stupid and will buy whatever trash she’s selling she’s talented oh Kev just when I was starting to like you 🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣😂😂
Talent is something that you have or you dont, as in it can't be learned or tought. Skills are things that can be acquired or learned. Kim K is Skilled
Having a strong business acumen or being in tune with pop culture does not equal talent. Most million and billionaires don't even receive that label, but because of how her fame came to be and how it has been sustained the term gets casually tossed around when talking about her and her family. At most, she is very business savvy. Just because you see them in places that we tend to see actual talented people (TV, magazines, award shows) does not mean she is talented.
So are you also a multi million dollar entrepreneur like Kim that’s now helping people of color get out of jail or are you just another random person hating on things you haven’t accomplished?🤔 Lemme know
The main thing is her relentless cultural appropriation (as in taking something from a different culture,and saying she invented it) think her latest attempt was to trademark the name kimono for her brand. And of course there's the hair styles that she suddenly thought of. (I don't get myself worked up about her love life though.)
I think people say she isn’t talented, because her claim to fame didn’t come from her having an exceptional ability at anything we deemed noteworthy. At this point in her life and developed career, it’s obvious she’s doing SOMETHING right. Also, Kim used to work for Paris. Idk if the tape was after or during that time period though..
Wow, this was probably one of the most 'organized' episodes of this series that I've ever seen! Maybe because Do wasn't there LOL jk got love for Doboy haha but I think marketing/business/social media tactics falls more under the 'skill' category than 'talent.'
@@M360-w6o the thing is she turned her advantages into a skill. If she were born without the money she wouldn't have survived. That isn't a talent it's a skill you worked on until its perfect enough to look like a talent to most people.
The black woman with blessed shirt is too biased on she doesn’t like Kim... Kim and the family excels in media and business.. dating rich black men wasn’t what turned them into billionaires.. because there were many woman before and they disappeared
Rochey C so you can do that? Paris Hilton father started Hilton hotels.. she’s not a billionaire... amber rose, blac chyna, and many others dated many huge celebrities.. they not as rich.. it’s not just Kim.. it’s a family thing.. but Kim is definitely the one who popularized the kardashian show that put them on the next level.. saying the mom was the one who deserves all the credit is like saying Joe Jackson is the whole reason Michael is the super star.. the parents just had the idea and drive
So after reading the comments in conclusions, hard work always beats talent! and if possible, work hard at the talent you have and no one can stop you!
....and be born into wealth to be able to hire talented people to make you appear talented...have access to every single opportunity to become wealthier...have no decency to how you go about it..and copy black women. Viola.
I understand what Kev was trying to say. But talented isn't the proper word. Lol. She was smart & rich enough to hire the right people at the right time. & Pretty & provocative enough for people to be obsessed with her & her fam.
I think people need to really understand the definition of what talent is. Just because you don't like that person that doesn't take away from the fact that they are talented.
I keep seeing the comment that Kim is “skilled not talented” the 2 words are literally synonyms. Marketing to a level of making hundreds of millions of dollars requires talent whether you want to admit it or not.
She’s talented in business and psychology, study the mind of personalities and personality disorders particularly narcissists. What triggers people, particularly what makes ppl emotional, jealous and envy, couple that with marketing skills🤑🤑🤑. Watch videos, read books, and RUclips videos on psychology and you will win in the game of life.
Being pretty and having a rich family is her talent. She became famous because people kept talking about her. People kept talking about her because she was pretty and rich enough to party with or around celebrities.
You can definitely have a talent in a field that is not traditionally artistic. And for people saying there is a difference between skill and talent, you still have to work on and learn your talents. Building your talent takes skill. They go hand in hand.
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
How long was this day??? They did more in one day than I do in a month. Probably ignored each other's calls for the next 2 weeks they was together in that room so long.
She's skilled and calculated. She learned that. The term talent refers to an inborn and the special ability of a person to do something. A skill is an expertise, which is acquired by the person by learning. Talent is God gifted ability, whereas Skill is an ability in which you put your time and efforts to develop.
Talent is typically something someone is born with or it comes naturally....and it's sincere. Being famous on social media is none of that. Also, Nicole Richie is still famous, she just portrays herself in a different light. She doesn't need to create fake drama for money.
Marketing isn't a talent, it's a skill. There's a difference.
Wow no.... even if you dnt like her, you can be marketed everywhere and still flop. *music industry* is a good ex. But with a show, and a public life like hers. *She had more chances to fuck it up then build it & somehow made it.* her personal instagram says it all... ●she is lit yall, #freemycuzin2○
@@crc5882 Wow no... I dont think anybody would dispute if she is "lit" or not but she is not NATURALLY skilled at marketing rather than skilled at marketing. If she wasn't born into money she wouldn't be in the position she is in now. She had many more advantages to help her skill than others and others still made it out because it came natural to them.
#freemycuzin3
@@chrisrios802 u babies w/ this "advantage in life" ppl are dumb and went for the shiny statue on top, guess what would've happen if you didnt. *there's a model in your city rn you might be able to make money with* But oh yeah women and guys alike tend to go for the shallower things in life. Get mad at her for it... *she's wasn't wearing a mask w/nothin she does my guy, top that 🤨* #yocuzinDeservesthattime
P.s fake ass for the win, or for dummies to click? Ahhhhhh, n now u see, I'm done. 🤡
@@chrisrios802" Naturally skilled at marketing..." you're making vanity a understatement, *when ppl would kill for the CLEAR MIND to actually pull it off* stop hating yall damn.
*insert smooth transition into skillshare ad*
Talent is God gifted ability, whereas Skill is an expertise, which is acquired by the person by learning. In conclusion, Kim is more so skilled than talented.
1000% agree with this comment. Talent is given, Skills are learned and acquired.
Boy fuck God. I acquired my talents from great genetics
EXACTLY! Literally what I was thinking the whole time while watching!
Bingo.
THIS!!!! She is skilled not talented
She's an amazing influencer because most people are sheep. End of discussion.
Period
I agree. I think her success says less about how talented she is and more about how obsessed with celebrity and easily enthralled with people with money consumers are.
You try to get sheep to love you and buy into everything you do.
I think Kim is skilled. She gathered info and took advantage of her situation.
that sex tape could’ve ruined her reputation real bad but she turned it around and put her family on just like Toni Braxton with her sisters....CATCH!!!
@@latoyajohnson8695 and put her family on? Lol her father is the one who put that family on. He was a prominent lawyer and they were millionares before the sex tape...
@@titanic8844 you completely missed the point just to hate 💀 nigga how many casual people in the world would know that Kim’s father was a famous lawyer? Cause I didn’t know that at all for the longest time ... she put her family on the map in the public eye LOL hate her all you want but Kim did that
Marketing isn’t a talent. It is a skill.
👏🏽 Exactly what I said! 👏🏽
There is a fine line between talent and skill. Marketing can be a talent of you have the natural ability without training to pull people on to like your products.
Pat sittin on the couch like he's waitin on Quantrell, coming home late from the club.
GODz Shadow #Underrated
She’s not talented, she’s just smart in what to invest her money in to but being smart doesn’t mean you are talented.
That's considered a talent to those who struggle with it though
You can’t be in the entertainment business for this long and manage to outshine Kanye West in popularity to the point where people start to refer Kanye as Kim’s husband without having a talent.
Facts!!
Her mother is the machine behind Kim, not Kim.
@@selenat.4982 and yet the others aren't as popular as Kim (nevermind Rob). There's a reason Kris could do more with Kim (and Kim does a lot on her own) than the others.
Title: Kim Kardashian is talented
Me: *souljah boy voice* KIIIIIIM??? KIIIIIIIIIIM???? KARDASHIAAAAN???????
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Thank you!!! 🤣🤣🤣 doing what???
So yaw gone act like Kim ain't been helping African Americans get out of prison. Respect
Are you in her tax bracket or run a multi million dollar business to speak on her? If so drop a link to your company if not then... SHHHHHH.. 🤫 🤐
@@LordsNeverWorry32212 dollars doesn't equate to talent.
Getting my ears ready for Heidi to yell over everyone
Still wasn't ready... putting headphones on low...(basically it is almost off) lol
For reaaal! She's like a mutant in x-men
NEW DRINKING GAME: Take a shot every time she blows out our speakers!!!
She didn't really do it this time
😂😂
I think we need to define talent vs. Skill. I see talent as something you’re born with; a skill is something that is learned.. marketing & business are skills not talents
Hmm I see your point in that some people are born with a talent of singing. But Simone Biles had to learn gymnastics. And she honed that skill into a talent.
@@EmorettaRobinson Is Simone's raw talent her athleticism though?
@@EmorettaRobinson everybody that learns gymnastics don't become world class champions no matter how much they train. Simone showed early signs of being a 'natural' which was why people invested in honing her gift.
@@thebougiewinechick1869 you're right about that! Not every gymnast reaches her level. So I stand corrected
@@joannasaadati8810 I suppose that could be so. Maybe athleticism could be a talent that you're born with. But I think things like acting and writing is learned. Tyler Perry once said that there are better writers than him. Not sure why he doesn't work with them though
I read the title as Kim Kardashian is talentless because that’s how convinced my brain is that she is.
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
@@ScoobySnacks7 So what is her talent?
I low-key would hire Pat to be my attorney... He's excellent at bringing up old arguments to win new ones⚖️💯
Like a single black woman
I want to know what specific business moves or marketing strategies Kim has implemented that makes her deserving of the title "talented". Opportunistic? Yes. Privileged? Yes. Resourceful? Maybe. But talented?? "Show me the receipts" in my Whitney Houston voice.
Kim is the product of perfect
TIMING, Access/Connections, and a non-stop circus of a family
Period!!!! And body modification. Let's see her get that far with her original face and body.
Agreed.
@Darius Williams Who are these people? You left out timing and controversy. All of those things working in sync are what's benefitting her. In the culture we're in right now, you will "fall off" if you don't stay in the news. And with a family as big as hers, there's always some type of salacious mess going on with at least one of them at any given time. If being able to maintain that is a talent, then most of the RUclipsrs on here with millions of subscribers for eating crab legs are talented.
@Darius Williams Ok, but would you categorize that design as talent??
I'm not sure what counts as a lot for you but don't forget looks. No one is arguing though that she isn't very successful. Her popularity probably helped a lot in that regard but having some kind of business sense was probably needed to gain the level of success she has now. The question is how much of that business sense actually came from Kim K.
Pat poked holes through Kev's reasoning so easily
Damn they recorded a lot of content on this day
They were doing the most
man forreal i just commented that and the first person i look at is heidi
Right?
Right? No wonder some look tired or slight annoyed in other videos
Yup. It's just easy that way. Film 8 hours and have videos for days.
JLO is medicore at singing and acting but she great at dancing.
Mediocre? Not even close. She is a good singer and a damn good actress.
Eric Smith she ain’t all that I can’t think of an iconic jlo song
Eric Smith no she is not😂
Eric Smith 🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’s a wack singer and mediocre actress. List her best vocal performances. She even had ghostsingers on some of her songs. List her great acting performances please.
M 360 list what Kim has done? Besides running through the industry lmao getting popular off a porn video it’s annoying to bring it up but it’s the TRUTH. Explain how Kim kardashian is talented but Jennifer Lopez isn’t?come on what world are we living in 😂😂😂 not even close
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard. JLo is not the most talented but she works hard. The Rock always says “be the hardest worker in the room”.
I completely agree with you. J Lo is an extremely hard worker. And that paid off. Also I like the quote by the Rock
Correct. And that is why she is skilled NOT talented
Chloe Franklin If J Lo didn’t look the way that she does, she would have NEVER been as big as she was !
Couldnt we make the argument Kim did the same? She worked hard to make sure her name was known by every part of the world, she took every small gig until more doors were open and she hustled her way into being recognized in the fashion and modeling industry securing her status as influencer. Unlike all the rest of her sisters Kim makes sure to model, have a clothing line, a make up line, a successful video game and who knows what else. Im not arguing that she is talented but I think Kim is most definitely a hard worker
Kev didn't even end with a closing argument. He said what he said and that's the end of it lol.
Marketing isn’t a talent Kevin, it’s a skill.
You have absolutely lost your mind. The credit you're giving her should rightfully go to her MOTHER!!! And I hate to say it but if it wasn't for OJ we wouldn't know any of them.
allthewayupNORTH _ very true and I will go further by saying if it wasn’t for that mediocre sex tape we wouldn’t know the Kardashians period!!!
@@latoyajohnson8695 💯
@@latoyajohnson8695 OMG it was so mediocre 😔
allthewayupNORTH _ Her mother sets up business deals. The reason why people wanna work with her in the first place is because of Kim. Get rid of the jealousy.
*Kim Kardashian hires talented people to create things that she can then attach her name to
She is talented then. She has the talent to identify special talent
Bingo
@@kazuto1905 everyone is talented then. We know good food when we eat it, good art when we see it, good music when we hear it. If identifying when someone is good at something is talent then let me go update my resume
@@jasmineh1873 That is actually a true statement. Everyone has a talent. Thanks for agreeing
Actually marketers ask her to put her name on products. Being rich and pretty and in a sex tape goes a long way
I wouldn’t say talented but she’s smart af. She plays up being a ditz because that’s what y’all think about her anyway.
Hey Quick random question..:
I want to name my daughter with the letter ë with the double dots over it but what does that really mean and how do you pronounce your last name exactly.
Does it change the whole word like an apostrophe does? Thanks😁
Jasmine love Hi, it’s actually my middle name. It’s actually called an umlaut/ diæresis. It just establishes a difference in sound. It’s kinda difficult to understand if you don’t use it in your everyday language and it also depends on the language how you’d pronounce it. Like the name Zoë (Zo- EE). My name is just pronounce like the word Sky. How come you want to use an umlaut or diæresis in her name if you don’t understand? I’m just genuinely curious.
@@angelique757 yeah, I wanted to use it for her middle name also because I thought it would change the vowel. Plus its VERY pretty and different, like the actress Zoë Saldana I did my research but I didn't find too much on it. I thought it changed the e sound to a y sound like " Lovë " would sound like " Lovie ", CORRECT me if im wrong..
It's because in all of her smarts she is indeed dumb.
@@deazy6453 No she isn't. One thing you can't call any of these new rappers and celebrities like Kim Kardashian is stupid. Because like Kev said she is making money off of exploiting celebrity culture the way she has. I don't like them, but they have my respect they are still on top and living it up because of their skills in exploitation. You can't call that stupid whatsoever.
Kev and tony looked like giants amongst mortals in the thumbnail
Lmao
*The J Lo angle proves Kev is being a bit of a hypocrite. It takes actual talent to be a dancer and learn choreographed routines. It takes talent to sing and perform. IT DOSENT TAKE TALENT TO BE BORN WELL OFF AND INVEST ONCE THE KARDASHIAN MOMENTUM STARTED. They could fart in a jar and it would sell millions. THATS NOT TALENT.*
L H J Lo is a decent dancer, but she’s nowhere near as talented as people like Janet& Michael, Chris Brown, or even Shakira. Kim may not be “talented,” as a performer, but she is extremely intelligent.
Kim has created a financial empire with multiple business and investments that will allow her children, and their children and so on, to have a great head start in life. She could have just lived off of her inheritance, but she didn’t.
mariyaa111 everything that you said yes! And also the rich don’t stay rich by sitting on their butts they stay rich by making more money! Which is something that she is Fantastic at! And on top of that why people keep ignore that she’s also a model. Which nobody is about to tell me it doesn’t take talent for considering America’s next top model has 15+ seasons about learning to be a model and how it’s more than just taking a pretty picture.
If Kim Kardashian wasn't pretty there would be no keeping up with the Kardashians. Genetics is her talent.
Marketers are assigned to the Kardashian case after the media realizes that everybody is talking about them for some reason. Then after the first proposal is a success they make more proposals then they make products and they come up with the marketing and they ask Kim what does she think. I guess saying " yeah that sounds good" is very talented. I mean the george Foreman grill was going to be the hulk hogan grill but something happened where he didn't take the deal and George foreman did. People really are sheep.
Kim and jlo are the same to me, tbh. She’s just the version of kim that speak spanish. She stole vocals, her dancing is good, not nearly as good as ciara, beyonce, and others. And she really can’t sing. Her acting’s good though, but she was all those mediocre things before she could get to her TRUE talent: acting 😁
@@aaliyahsmiles7345 kim cant sing, dance, act or speak Spanish.. How are they the same other than being very attractive
Why Kev acting like Kim actually makes the products she sells. I don’t even think she comes up with the ideas or designs of her products. If shes not back there creating the makeup and designing the clothes then shes not talented. She has marketing skills but marketing is a talent. If you were in a talent show you can’t perform marketing!
Lol period!!
I'm sorry Kim was smart
Marketing is or isn’t a talent ? You guys think talent is just being a musician, actor/actress or an athlete.
The Kardashian/Jenner's only license their names to stuff and promote them. They're usually just the face. Others come up with the ideas and do the grunt work.
She's definitely talented in marketing herself. Her mom is a great businesswoman
It's a skill....not a talent.....usually talent is something u have naturally that sets u apart...skill is something you work on to improve
So ppl can’t have a natural talent for business at birth
Like not every person who learns business is a millionaire like ppl can be academically talented too
People keep saying "it's a skill not a talent," but a talent is a natural aptitude in a specific skill
There’s a difference between being good a marketing yourself and benefiting from celebrity. I agree with angel, KK hires a good team and has a mother with good business acumen.
Nah, it's Kris who has the business/marketing talent. They wouldn't have been as successful as they are without mumz.
Facts
I agree, but she also has passed those skills to her daughters.
Robert and Kris taught their children well.
THIS IS A SKILL NOT A TALENT THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT
Would’ve been here without the title but I’m here SPECIFICALLY because of the title....
This should've be AT LEAST 30 minutes long
SKILLS VS TALENTS!!!! Kim is very skilled and became that way over time with the help of her mother. None of them are really talented but have acquired great business and marketing skills
...by being around folks who actually had the talent and skill.
Kris is the talented one. Kim is just pretty.
The new face kim is
Her Marketing team does her marketing, her styling team does her styling
she just shows up.
a quick google search will tell y'all in the comments that the word "skill" is included in the definition of "talent".
Ok I thought I was wrong in being confused as to why they and other people are separating the two.
I googled the difference. By definition she does not possess a discernable talent
You could be skilled at math but that’s not a talent lol
@@frenchryah221 i disagree with you on that one. but that's okay lol
All y'all tryna seperate the two have never seen the definition of talent clearly.
tal·ent
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noun
1.
natural aptitude or skill.
So here you go.
I agree n it’s half sad n half genius
Black men put her on top tho
Literally
Period. Did anyone really know her before ray j? Was her name ringing in the streets like that...I dont remember it.
bigjayking24
I’m assuming that you and Kim kardashian never had any relations so obviously you aren’t included in the men I was referring to
The words “Black men are her fanbase” did not cross my mind therefore transfer to type it on the screen
I’m pretty sure my name is next to my picture and unfortunately it ain’t Ma
bigjayking24 😂 what was the point in commenting under my original comment if u didn’t expect to have a conversation
So you can say what’s on ur mind arguing my original statement (which is normal )
But I can’t counter argue yours n you think u can dismiss me under MY shit 😂??!
Please think before you speak boy
bigjayking24 my dude you don’t know me lol
You are doing a whole lot of assuming.
You actually sound intelligent so u should know when u assume you are also making an ass out of urself.
So again I would suggest that u think before you speak .
Are we done here ?! Because this is again MY shit that u have decided to comment under. Are You mad that I’m not gonna let u say whatever the hell u want (a question is not an assumption btw) “I’m just saying”
They're mistaking talent for skill.
I don’t know bout talented but she’s something 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Kim is good with her "coochie management". She saw a way to finagle her "talent" into making money for her but not come off as a prostitute
how y'all just cut to black like that 😂😂-RIGHT?!
odetochef lol thats because they just recorded one long ass segment months ago and have been chopping it up into segments and releasing them bit by bit
Cuz it’s kev’s argument haha
This was the worst episode all time. Kim is talented for being a clout chaser? 🤔🤣
Bullshit. She is doing her thing. She has multiple businesses, and is extremely successful.
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
All the successful things they did is becuz her family clout chasing, there all known to do that lol anything can be a talent
I dont think anyones mad... lol
She was already from a wealthy family so how did she "make it" in life. It was already made for her.
So because Kim knows that people are stupid and will buy whatever trash she’s selling she’s talented oh Kev just when I was starting to like you 🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣😂😂
That's not even what he's saying at all.
Talent is something that you have or you dont, as in it can't be learned or tought. Skills are things that can be acquired or learned. Kim K is Skilled
Damn Kev, let people talk. He literally dominated the whole convo, then ended the video.
Having a strong business acumen or being in tune with pop culture does not equal talent. Most million and billionaires don't even receive that label, but because of how her fame came to be and how it has been sustained the term gets casually tossed around when talking about her and her family. At most, she is very business savvy. Just because you see them in places that we tend to see actual talented people (TV, magazines, award shows) does not mean she is talented.
*reads title* Kim Kardashian IS talented.
Me: .....at what?? What is said talent, my friend?
😩😩😂😂
Talent is not the world I would use, more like lucky and privilege.
She's not a genius.. Consumers are just idiots.. Look at the quality of Rap/HipHop etc
My guy 🙇🏾♂️💯
If they do a segment on mumble rappers or any other so call rapper of today. I'm pretty sure it could go on for at least an hour.
So are you also a multi million dollar entrepreneur like Kim that’s now helping people of color get out of jail or are you just another random person hating on things you haven’t accomplished?🤔 Lemme know
Because they like something you don't they are idiots. Don't be that person. She is very good at what she does
She has marketing and business SKILLS. However, she has no distinctive talent.
I'm really tired of people saying this. Google the word talent.
deshaun fortune skills are learnt , and talent is a natural ability.
She's entertaining, and I used to think she was harmless. My bad.
Do you see her as harmful now? And if so how?
The main thing is her relentless cultural appropriation (as in taking something from a different culture,and saying she invented it) think her latest attempt was to trademark the name kimono for her brand. And of course there's the hair styles that she suddenly thought of. (I don't get myself worked up about her love life though.)
@@marianne6373 yeah that Kimono thing wasn't right. So I get what you're saying.
Marianne true
There is a snake charming cunning ness of Jezebel not talent
Gnashing my teeth just reading the title. Hmm...I dunno. Can't wait to watch this video. Y'all are doing great work.
Well done kev for getting so far with everything, trying to avoid everything kardashian, so here is where I bow out. Continue to rise 💕
I think people say she isn’t talented, because her claim to fame didn’t come from her having an exceptional ability at anything we deemed noteworthy. At this point in her life and developed career, it’s obvious she’s doing SOMETHING right.
Also, Kim used to work for Paris. Idk if the tape was after or during that time period though..
Wow, this was probably one of the most 'organized' episodes of this series that I've ever seen! Maybe because Do wasn't there LOL jk got love for Doboy haha but I think marketing/business/social media tactics falls more under the 'skill' category than 'talent.'
She’s an influencer. Influencer marketing is her talent.
M 360 no
Rochey C why not? If influencer marketing was easy, everyone would dominate it
M 360 so your argument is because everyone can’t be a hoe and make money off their plastic body they aren’t talented lmao great argument 🤣😂😂😂
@@M360-w6o the thing is she turned her advantages into a skill. If she were born without the money she wouldn't have survived. That isn't a talent it's a skill you worked on until its perfect enough to look like a talent to most people.
Rochey C so the only influencers on social media are hoe’s ? And my point was not everyone is good at influencer marketing.
The black woman with blessed shirt is too biased on she doesn’t like Kim... Kim and the family excels in media and business.. dating rich black men wasn’t what turned them into billionaires.. because there were many woman before and they disappeared
But for a while there wealthy and famous black men were zeroed in on her to the point where I felt she may have needed to take some alone time
Still not a talent lmao 🤦🏾♀️
Rochey C lets say a gift lol
Offtopic K no it’s just common sense lol and it’s her mum that’s the real business savvy one not Kim
Rochey C so you can do that? Paris Hilton father started Hilton hotels.. she’s not a billionaire... amber rose, blac chyna, and many others dated many huge celebrities.. they not as rich.. it’s not just Kim.. it’s a family thing.. but Kim is definitely the one who popularized the kardashian show that put them on the next level.. saying the mom was the one who deserves all the credit is like saying Joe Jackson is the whole reason Michael is the super star.. the parents just had the idea and drive
When Pat said "So is Trump talented in the same areas of Kim Kardashian?" I was waiting for Kev to say "Body wise no🤣😭💀"
I like how Patrick cross his legs!
So after reading the comments in conclusions, hard work always beats talent! and if possible, work hard at the talent you have and no one can stop you!
....and be born into wealth to be able to hire talented people to make you appear talented...have access to every single opportunity to become wealthier...have no decency to how you go about it..and copy black women. Viola.
She is talented at branding and marketing herself and her family.
fdoctor that’s not a talent 🤣😂😂
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well.
The people she hired does that
I understand what Kev was trying to say. But talented isn't the proper word. Lol. She was smart & rich enough to hire the right people at the right time. & Pretty & provocative enough for people to be obsessed with her & her fam.
Her doctor is talented 😂
Period
I think people need to really understand the definition of what talent is. Just because you don't like that person that doesn't take away from the fact that they are talented.
Marketing and Business goes hand and hand. But I agree with Kev
I’VE BEEN WAITING!! lol these videos never fail to be hilarious 😂😂
So thanks to Ray J for Kim Kardashian.
Skill vs Talent
If she was born ugly she wouldn’t be this rich. She was born with an advantage and used it. Not really talented or skilled, just born blessed.
When you say that flipping opportunities into success isn't a talent, that's when we have nothing more to say to one another.
Has no one ever looked up the definition of talent? By definition she is talented.
“They haven’t let ugly people sing in a long time” 😂
So u think kim k is talented but not jlo no wonder add died
The edited end lol!!! Nah you gotta drop the unedited version!
She is talented...at dating famous and rich black men.
I keep seeing the comment that Kim is “skilled not talented” the 2 words are literally synonyms. Marketing to a level of making hundreds of millions of dollars requires talent whether you want to admit it or not.
Tahir, them shorts, please nooooo. 🤣. Love yall.
She’s talented in business and psychology, study the mind of personalities and personality disorders particularly narcissists. What triggers people, particularly what makes ppl emotional, jealous and envy, couple that with marketing skills🤑🤑🤑. Watch videos, read books, and RUclips videos on psychology and you will win in the game of life.
Being pretty and having a rich family is her talent. She became famous because people kept talking about her. People kept talking about her because she was pretty and rich enough to party with or around celebrities.
Marketing is a skill
"she had a leg up" LOLOL pun intended
You can definitely have a talent in a field that is not traditionally artistic. And for people saying there is a difference between skill and talent, you still have to work on and learn your talents. Building your talent takes skill. They go hand in hand.
Kev I’m so disappointed in u bro 😔
D WADE IS THE GOAT he had good points that even THEY agreed with🤔
The definition of talent is "natural aptitude or skill". To be talented, is literally being good at doing something well. So how is she not talented???
@@ScoobySnacks7 how is she talented?
She have a knack at it, which also means talent, or you can say smart, which still go with talent!
Skill vs talent. Y'all having the wrong conversation!
At what? 🤔
She is skilled. A talent is an inherent ability at something. Skill is a learned ability.
I just watched Kev vs Doboy in basketball 🏀 ....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kev said, “ I do this for real!”
7:30 Can't believe no one didn't say that yeah she had a leg up & she put her legs up & boned her way 2 the 💰. Hell I can't knock the husle
That's hustling to you? smh lol
JLO started out as Fly Girl on the In Living Color Show (Keyneen Wayans) &she took that did Selena movie and blew up
How long was this day??? They did more in one day than I do in a month. Probably ignored each other's calls for the next 2 weeks they was together in that room so long.
To me talent is a skill that someone is exceptionally good at
Kev love the Js, good look.
Kim is a master marketer!! She was a topic we studied in my marketing class in college...Her real talent is MAXIMIZING opportunities....
She's skilled and calculated. She learned that. The term talent refers to an inborn and the special ability of a person to do something. A skill is an expertise, which is acquired by the person by learning. Talent is God gifted ability, whereas Skill is an ability in which you put your time and efforts to develop.
these need to be longer
He said what he said. I DON’T AGREE but he said what he said. 😁😂🙄😩
Talent is typically something someone is born with or it comes naturally....and it's sincere. Being famous on social media is none of that. Also, Nicole Richie is still famous, she just portrays herself in a different light. She doesn't need to create fake drama for money.
Anybody hungry for success is a opportunist
They are not "artists", but they definitely have skills.
Her father is the reason why they are who they are he was a celebrity lawyer. Without his connections Kim k never reaches anything simple as that