Careers Have Changed Forever | Asmongold Reacts
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a big problem also is that companies don't reward loyalty anymore, i have gotten more raises/pay increases by either switching companies or saying i am going to switch to another company.... which boils down to "if you are not going to pay me what i am/think i am worth then i will go somewhere that will"
Exactly. I was with the same company for six years. After receiving a few small and sparse raises throughout my time there, I demanded a significant raise and they refused. I left two weeks later. Not sure what they expected; I guess my shelf life just expired. I'm making much more money now and have a better quality of life. Whatever.
I'm in this situation too. Been at the same job 7 years, always worked hard and never asked for anything. After inflation wrecked our bank account, we cant pay the bills anymore on my salary. I asked for a raise and they basically told me to get lost. I used to love my job and I thought they'd have my back, but I should've left years ago.
@@Strausburg Well, now you know where you stand. Good luck with whatever you choose to do!
Basically it went from "we're rewarding you for being such a good loyal employee" to "no, please, come back"
It was aways likr that. Lol. Whats the name? Oh yeah, capitalism. Lol. Companies don't care about people lol
The worst part is that the older generations don't understand this is happening. They still push us to take the corporate route. And it's terrible.
Well if you really think about it… how many people will be able to do otherwise, truthfully? How many Asmongold types of situations are really going to work for the majority?
Yooo asmongayyyygold sup
They also seem to be the main ones trying to get rid of working from home. We just had 2-3 years where we proved a ton of jobs could be done from home after idk how many years of companies claiming they couldn't be, now they're trying to make up reasons for why people have to come back in
You wil benefit from corporate experience even if you want to do your own thing. And would they say that to you at all if you already had a good source of income?
It works still there’s just other ways to succeed
19:26 Could not be more true, teachers would always say "You need a degree or you'll end up as a plumber", they shit on plumbers my whole highschool life and then after I went through university I learned just how much plumbers make and how cruel it was that teachers treated blue collar workers who literally keep the water of life flowing as if they were something shameful. My kid won't be raised the same way.
You are so right. I grew up the same way. Teachers were always telling us "do well or you'll end up like one of those blue collar losers". I think it's a big reason why millenials who have blue collar jobs are so unhappy, there's a huge sense of shame in us if you work and have enough money for food and rent...if your job isn't glamorous. Kind of like the untouchables in India.
amen
I've worked in warehouses all my life. I recently started being the garbage/recycling guy. Turns out, I've never made more in my life, and I make more than most college grads i know.
this was really eye opening for me when I applied for a vet tech job that was paying 14 dollars an hour for a college educated person when I with only a hs diploma was making 18 an hour. I was turned down because i had no vet tech degree but i said no the moment they told me the payrate
A pipe had burst in the middle of a winter. They call a plumber, he had to stand knees high in water for 2 hours. He did had his boots but still it was hellish cold. He had to dig trough a wall and a part of a ground in front of the house. He had to wait in that cold weather for his apprentice to get a part. It took him half a day to finish the job. Then the owner stiffed him for pay. He had to sue him and get his money 6 months later. He had to go trough all that mental pain just to get his money. He worked in literal shit for 1/2 of his life.
You see title of a plumber is so nice. Replacing an easy valve is a nice thing. Life is not that easy. Plumber looks really good on paper. Not discouraging you, but not being knees high in shit from time to time is kind of easier. Parents know that. That is why they tell their kids to work in the office where it is warm and far less shit on you.
100% the "fuck em" rule. it works. Ive worked so many jobs where the people running the company were so old-headed and incompetent they couldn't even comprehend the vast majority of the problems happening in the workplace. Kept shoving all the shit off on the wrong people and I eventually just started ignoring the entire hierarchy of the company as a whole and just focused and getting my paycheck. I completely ignored management/inspectors etc etc. Fuck em.
I think the biggest problem with the “promotions aren’t appealing enough” actually has to do with higher ups dangling promotions in front of workers then never actually giving them out. Workers have caught on and don’t fall for it anymore.
That and some workers have seen their coworkers get promoted, get stressed out from the workload, and then quit/get fired when they are not at fault.
This has been done to me - I shit you not - 7 times. I'm embarrassed it took so many tries for me to finally lose trust
@@Tink00 I’m sorry to hear you were taken advantage of that many times. I hope you’re working for people who appreciate you and your work now.
@@chinchilla6547 I just got laid off, but I'm sure I'll get there one day 😅
@@Tink00 yeah I’m right there with you, but we’re our own best advocates and I’m happy you’re realizing it too. I just came to the revelation in the last few months
I think a big part of this issue is that back when the “work at the same place for years to move up” was common you could buy a house and live on a single income. The prices on everything has gone up a huge amount and the wages didn’t match so people had to hop jobs to keep up
Given the fact that just driving food from McDonald's to a person for 4 hours can net someone 70k a year by in large beats out any entry level and a large chunk of supervisor pay rates at somone point you have to ask why am I even doing this 9-5 job.
You need 2 incomes now because of feminism.
Americans didn't learn anything from soviet feminism as it seems... :D
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj Let guess. It failed Miserably.
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj Apparently. Making Career Women was a government ploy to double the Taxable Income they get per household.
the prices go up because the dollar is worth less. dollar is worth less because of irresponsible government spending/printing of money. and it's only going to get worse as we've added anther couple trillion to our debt for the next ten years. thanks biden.
One of the biggest problems nowadays with manpower jobs is the great lack of incentives. When you have a good employee, and he does a great job faster than the usual employee, what's his prize!? Even more work, not a day off, not a bonus, just more work. Doing more work for the same money as everyone else. No wonder so many people often do less than they can.
Also destroying your body, my dad did hard manual labor for his entire life and he is now finally done working and his body is torn up and he lives with chronic pain in his joints and has issues walking.
Yeah, this is the problem with large organizations. With so many people, it hides both the overachievers and underachievers
Speaking as a 50 something who has worked for over 20 different corporations I can honestly say working smarter and harder is great but in the end its all about who you know. The guy with connections gets the job every time over the guy who works hard and smart so who you know is much more important than what you know.
I share Asmonss views. When I got hired at Walmart they specifically asked me, "You're not gonna work for 6 months and then quit are you?" "Nah" I said and I wholeheartedly wouldn't have, but they shafted me on hire pay and when I asked to change depts I was told to "Find my own replacement" first. Ha, so I took COVID leave and quit when they called to ask if I was coming back, fuck em.
"you're not going to do the thing literally everyone does are you?"
What a bunch of scrubs stuck workin for vampires
:gasp: why are all these workers quitting? I mean surely it's not us
thats been almost every job in my life lol. companies are toxic dicks the workers then they wonder why people quit and have no loyalty lol.
@@BigWheel. after working there for 6 months, I 100% agree.
I might be an outlier here, but my work at Walmart was great (produce section if anyone was wondering). The overall experience with the people were nice, with the exception of asshole customers (like this one guy that kept threatening to sue us because we ran out of blueberries), and some of the newer employees. I worked there for 3 years part time (I was in college, then later looking for a new job). However, I did volunteer to take more responsibilities, which might of helped. I’m not really a social person, and the responsibilities involved the back end of things, so I didn’t have to deal with the assholes as much. It might of also helped that our store was the training place for all the fresh managers (fresh meaning food department), because we had the cleanest Walmart in the entire region. But I finally found a great job as an engineer, so I quit. I still go to that Walmart to talk to my old coworkers to catch up. It might just be me, but I did have a great time at there.
I have a boss who's very nice. He doesn't pay extra but when ur boss is so nice and considerate alone, it really changes the environment of the workplace. When I was hired the other girls would show me tricks and say they only do that extra bit purely cause they wanna save the boss money cause he's so nice to everyone.
It's amazing how being kind to your employees can do to your business
A chill work culture and colleagues make up immensely for earning a bit less than another place that is malignant.
bosses should really just start cooking for their workers instead of pushing pens. +40 income buff
Same, went from food service to entry level engineering and the work environment any moral is night and day.
I can relate, my boss is really nice
not even 5 mins in and Asmon almost gets the issue already. I'm living proof. I excelled at every job I ever had, always did the work of multiple people/multiple jobs regardless of my position, and have glowing reviews from every boss and coworker I've ever had. Hell most of my former bosses are STILL good friends. Ended the same way everytime, I'd be praised, told how well I was going to do on a Friday, then randomly dropped as far as a few months out or as soon as the following Monday.
Always some excuse, always how sad/upset everyone was to lose me, hell I've had an entire fkng crew shut down in protest of my firing, and yet it'd happen every time. Followed by the texts from coworkers/friends about how shitty it is without me because I take real pride in my work and happily volunteer for the shitty tasks no one wants. Companies killed loyalty, started robbing people and not paying them (as I have had happen on multiple jobs over the last few years) and they ignore their managers/leads when they are told people like me are worth the extra money to have around yet are baffled when they start losing people after they yeeted the guy who proudly carried their shitshows because the rest of their staff sure as hell wasn't boutta get filthy too knowing that no matter what they do it won't be valued...
I once tried to do exactly what asmongold wanted and does in life, sadly it ruined my love for playing games. I went crazy
yeah... mental health goes away pretty quick in that enviroment. Good for you
@@KeepWalkingBA true
I'm of the asmon-ilk, I HATE when I HAVE to work jobs. Severe lack of freedom, especially with 6.5 billion worldwide humans, 10-25% of our collective being, can afford to be lazy fucks who don't actually contribute to society as a whole. 98% of society don't even see us, so we don't even matter to the greater whole. And when they do see us, we are a MINOR blip on their radar (unless as established as asmongold, ofc, lol).
10 years old is when I first saw the world for what it REALLY is, and disgusted me, so I sought the same thing asmongold achieved. How do I buy my games? I don't, I rely on free titles and gifted games, and have accumulated over 400 titles, with about 100 or so being AAA titles, like Fallout, Skyrim, Pokemon, and Smash bros, etc.
I HAVE had a few jobs, but get fired for working too hard (the supervisors thought I was vying for their job). I worked SUPER hard because of the grind mindset I developed from gaming (put head down, don't communicate, get the "challenge" completed). Getting fired for busting your azz off is beyond debilitating, I complete your 10 hour dishwashing job in 4 with zero breaks (I was forced to take breaks, because I would get stuck into grind-mode), and still fired for wanting to advance in position. (Found out later, that job was given to a dishwasher machine, because NO other employee put in the EFFORT I had).
The "working life" is just a mindless slog for the uneducated. And those that ARE educated are considered a "threat" because they are smarter than their supervisor(s) 😂. "The rich stay rich, and the poor get poorer".
**EDIT** Not advancing out of THE lowest position in any job is beyond debilitating. You've PROVEN you are a, hard, dedicated worker, and you are cast away, by being forced to do the mindless slog. As if such a person was the separator line on a chess board. Not even a viable piece on the board, but an insignificant line no one thinks about. That's how degrading it is, and some (most) people don't seem to understand, nor get that. My value is in my ability to do the grind (put my head down, and just work. No socializing, no dinking around. I'm there for WORK). But if the grind is going to affect me mentally, I will wholly disavow such action(s). And yes, I go off on tangents. Byproduct of being shunned for working too hard. And sure, be all judgy and shet, but none of you lived MY life. I don't piss on your sorrows, don't piss on mine. You got your own problems, I've got mine. Sometimes we just got to vent, and hope someone feels a connection. Your shetty life ain't no better than anyone elses, people. Don't pretend to have some higher ground 😂
{My rants are NOT indicative to the OP, nor the comments therein. Y'all read too much into surface level expressions 😆. And if we want to delve deeper into my psyche, you'll have to be my therapist for that 😂}
I have a mate who basically dreams of escaping his position in life via streaming. I've always thought that would just ruin my favourite hobby. I love gaming, but for like 2-3 hours at a time at most. I have no idea how people could enjoy gaming for like 8 hours every day.
@@swizzamane8775you think every single person WANTS to go to work?
You guys aren’t just lazy, you are special too.
As a kid I was always told I was really smart, so I shouldn’t do “stupid” jobs. I spent decades working in offices, and while I was good at my job, I hated my life. It wasn’t until recently that I completely changed industries and got into construction. In two years I’ve gotten promoted 3 times, I’m making more than I ever did in an office, and I’m outside loving life. The construction industry has a lot of really smart people, it is not for losers, and the great thing is that so few people realize it, so there’s a ton of room to climb up the ranks.
Would you reccomend any particular trade/career path within construction? Cheers!
@@irateindividual8086 I work for my state government on the inspection side of things. If you want to be an inspector, usually states, cities, and consulting companies will have openings even without any prior experience. They will train you. If you actually want to build stuff, I would recommend being an operator, there is probably a local union you can sign up for. If you want to get a degree in something like project management you can be like a superintendent or a project manager, those guys can easily make 6 figures. Definitely ask around, cause it varies
@@martief1st thanks for the reply mate, inspector sounds interesting will look into it!
I'm in construction too even though I have a lot of skills on pc, video editing, photography etc. But something about working in different places all the time, working on buildings, getting access to secure rooms and meeting new people all the time works for me! Been doing it for 7 years now.
@@irateindividual8086 I work in data cabling, which is similar to being an electrician but far less qualifications needed. I'm very lazy but I work hard, make it make sense lol. Work with cat5e-6a cable and fibre optic cable too
Hope that helps you also! Usually work 8am-3/4pm :)
When I worked corporate, I was very good and kept getting promotions. In the 2008 crash, I was #3 and was being groomed to replace the Operations Manager when the VP retired (and the OM moved up). I survived the layoffs for 2 years as our work slowed and was even promoted to Business Development Manager in that time. I secured a "business saving" contract that would have represented full revenue for a minimum of two years and I would have ended up with a 6 figure bonus. Once the company was in final negotiations between CEO's, I got laid off a month before the contract was signed! Never underestimate the greed of management - no matter how secure you think you are! They replaced me with two fresh college graduates and two interns. I took my contact list and networking database with me. I took my toys off the table and retired from corporate life (at 38) and never looked back!
I watched the squeeze in my last job. It was repulsive. I was young and talented and not being subjected to it but what I did do was gave them an ultimatum.
I moved far away to the middle of nowhere and said I want to work full time remote. (Pre-pandemic)
They said no way. I resigned. Had nothing lined up. I took 6 months off to farm and gather my thoughts. I was prepared to pick cranberries in a marsh for the rest of my life than go back to that bullshit. I decided I would go the consultant path and started working toward it but a new corporate job quickly fell in my lap from a network contact. It is a corporate job but valuing their employees and teamwork is in their mission statement so its a whole vibe and I dig it.
Congrats on getting out from underneath it all. It’s all a mirage ain’t it :)
@@adaum4534 Yes it is!
So now you retired retired or just corporate retired?
Right that was a money move unfortunately
@@unlimited971 There are no guarantees in life. I am 51 now and have not received a check from a regular job since - so I guess you can say I "semiretired" at 38 - but I do have some advantages from my youth. I am a disabled vet so by moving from the East Coast to Texas I was able to lock in a lower cost of living.
It's interesting to see how people value money over free time. My friend changed his position from basic position to like "manager one". On his basic position he worked for X amount of money, but he worked just like 1 hour every day, because there simply wasn't much to do. Now, he works as a manager, which means working crazy overtimes, meetings at 8PM and shit like that, and his money was increased just like 10%.
Now, tell me which job is more valuable.
Depends which one can pay for the life he wants to live on his time off.
Maybe he plans to use this position as an opportunity to get to know higher ups, make connections both within the company he works at and its partner companies and get a better position over time?
Or maybe he simply loves the thrill and responsibility and views the hardships a reasonable price for actually using his mind and skills to the fullest?
What people dont take into account is that he's getting that resume bullet.
He's working his ass off now, but when he gets scalped by a recruiter or decides to look for another job having been the guy coordinating all that stuff its going to translate to more money due to his experience.
Short term sucks, long term works out.
As a remote IT support contractor, throughout most of Covid, I took literally thousands of escalated phone calls from ISPs, from their customers, who were trying to figure out how to work from home. It was probably a single digit % that had legitimate technical problems to solve, and the rest were people who couldn't follow their company's directions for getting setup to work from home, or wanted me to just do shit for them that they normally had a secretary or assistant to do. I was being treated as a dumping ground by ISP agents, who knew better but just didn't want to deal with these people. Well as soon as I was able to get a given idiot to realize they had to listen to their support teams, or learn really fast to fend for themselves, the manipulation attempts, the threats, the hysterical crying, would come out, until finally just screaming out they are going to retire when they realize I wasn't going to buy their bullshit. It made me realize just how many useless corporate idiots are out there that don't deserve their salaries.
It's depressing tbh
It’s depressing but also gives hope to people who know how to actually make shit happen.
Omfg the amount of people who abuse technical support workers at ISPs and try to get their ISP to perform duties that a private tech company/MSO should be doing literally drove me out of the telecommunications field. They know ten thousand percent that paying an MSO is going to be expensive so they try to get their local Spectrum or Verizon employee to do it.
And I cannot, cannot, fucking CANNOT tell you how many mother fucking conversations I've had with management trying to explain that this is what these douchebag customers are doing.
@@slamdanglesWhy do you care? You're being paid by that company to do a job that wouldn't even exist if they didn't lol. If the management won't listen its your profit and their loss.
@@MRFUCKOFF202 because I loved my career at one point.
Careers are always changing. Just gotta adapt to it. We all had parents that said you'll never have a job sitting at your computer. Look at most of us now lol.
This is true, specially being a programmer lol.
I'm pretty sure they meant playing CounterStrike and photoshopping yourself next to Britney Spears won't get you a job. Not prpgramming, which you probably didn't do anyway.
@@flyingfrog7847editors and game testers/esports players say otherwise. And yes I understand that these positions arent very widespread but that doesnt change the fact that those 2 activies could indeed become a job if you are good enough
Good luck adapting to AI wiping out the vast majority of all computer based jobs in the next 10 years
@@atanasapostolov2731 Yeah just like playing basketball could get you in the NBA and jacking off can lead to you becoming a famous Onlyfans content creator.
The problems with working a corporate 9-5 job is it mixes you in with some of the worst people in the world. It's like grade school maturity at most of those places.
@@snickle1980 Fuckin Based.
@@snickle1980 I'm blessed with having wonderful and likeminded colleagues at work, but I know that might not be true at another place making me afraid to ever switch job :P
This is what the public education system trains people to be like.
That's a bit odd. Most of my coworkers have always been great and respectful? Some were just okay but mostly people did what was just expected.
The culture in the US is very materialistic, but I really agree with Asmon, after/during Covid, people started appreciating the flexibility of remote work and spending more time with kids and family.
not everyone has a pencil pusher job though lol
every country is materialiastic lol. go travel @@burdman5620
Why is unethical to work multiple "regular" jobs but being a CEO of multiple companies is not unethical?
Bcz ceo’s don’t really work, they have worked alot and grew to that position, now they have people working for them,
A comma is the difference between
I'm not really young anymore, I'm in my early 30's and I'm actually fairly happy with my current career. I say current because I've bounced around jobs every 1-2 years since my early 20's after I graduated from my Undergrad. Every Director I've worked with has told me the fastest way to move up the pay scale is to get a new job every few years because typically a new company will look to beat your previous salary to secure you. I have found this to be true for the most part and it did really help me get a higher salary. Most companies didn't care that I bounced around because I picked up new skills in every position I held. DO NOT stay loyal to a company, especially if you are good at what you do. They will just take advantage of your loyalty and treat you like shit.
Facts. Any company worth a damn these days understands that good talent looks for top dollar. They don't hold job hopping against candidates if it's clear that they're moving up in their careers as a result, but they're more than happy to exploit complacency with subpar pay.
Early 30’s is still young, trust me lol
You're still young 👍
This. Did the same myself snd landed in a very good spot
Can i take your last statement and frame it?
Being a hard and smart worker gets you the “more work award” from my experience. However I’ve found that good employers will see that and give you more opportunities to progress
@@cattysplat I can agree with that. there are many avenues to success.
smart working is just staying slightly above average, not too god, not too bad.
@@cattysplat Also important to mention that if you're the type who does honest work and genuine accomplishments, you have to split some focus towards bringing attention to those things and making sure your name stays attached. If you don't, others will steal credit and reap all the rewards, even if they had absolutely nothing to do with it. Upper management culture in my experience is dominated by people who do absolutely nothing and making sure their name gets associated with nothing until they're sure they want it to be. As soon as they see a good thing, they swoop in like a fucking predator and make sure to somehow build association of their name with that thing, and that's the only thing they put real thought and effort into. And shamefully, it works for them.
I'm one of those people who has spent years actively avoiding promotion, purely for the reason that I've had enough exposure to those people to know that I don't want any more. I couldn't tolerate their presence in my life any more than I already have to. I will give up opportunities for higher pay just to avoid them.
I’ve learned to refuse being asked to do more work than I am required to. My supervisor literally expects some of us to do the work of 2 men sometimes. I tell him to get another worker for me or that I won’t rush the work and I’m going to take my time. I work in a factory doing manual labour.
If you're not getting rewarded for your hard work it's time to switch jobs. Also something to consider is if your hard work is providing value to the company, if it's not then stop doing it.
Wish I learned a trade as a kid. My school had a program where kids could learn trades across the street at some learning school, but my dad was very against it and believed going there meant dropping out or some nonsense. It wasn't and you take your mandatory classes in the morning and go to the trade school in the afternoon.
I still applied but no one ever got back to me about and my dad discouragement made me not try again.
That is unironically tragic, I understand you on that.
as someone who has managed to move up in a corporate outfit. its not about working hard. its about working smart and taking the lead. hard work just gets you more work. learn the policy, apply it and find ways to get work done faster in spite of it (aka: cut corners, but be sure that they are the right corners you can cut), and motivate those around you to do their work more efficiently. that will get you ahead.
Your comments are true but it is difficult to 'swallow the pill.' We were taught cutting corners are wrong and many ethical dilemmas need to be addressed. As of now I am employing tactics that fall under your comment. Issue is to acknowledge being ethical doesn't always get rewarded.
Yeah I think we are taught "work hard and you will get rewarded" but that's not guaranteed. Especially if your putting effort on the wrong things.
@@flowerbloom5782 You make a very good point, and to add to it, you can do less effort if you focus on the right things, and get rewarded for it. Its important to know what to prioritize and do that.
@@metagaminguniversemgu2240 I've cut the right corners and was fired. Later she told me I was, "vying for the supervisors job". Bish I'm trying to get a 10-hour dishwashing job done in 4, lay off and let me make pizzas. (Of 20 interviewed in group interview, 5 were hired and put on rotation. But I was stuck dishwashing because I was the ONLY person doing it RIGHT, and got stuck doing it)
Don't forget to be in ur boss click. If ur not in it ur f
In my experience, working harder means getting more hours at the same pay rate, or someone else losing they hours or job. When they need a new manager, they don't promote from within, they hire externally. Best way to get promoted is to be mates with the boss. How hard you work or how good you are at your job, or how many staff you trained for no extra pay, or how many shifts you showed up for on short notice, or how many weekends you missed out on because no one else wanted to work the weekend is all completely irrelevant when some other guy plays golf with the manager on the weekend.
@@Vittrich Yeah back in his day you probably had a job for life unless you did something malicious and a base salary gave you a great quality of life, 3 bedroom home, 2 cars and both kids in private schools whilst the wife stayed home. Companies don't do anything for free. What the people are complaining about is that individuals are acting like companies.
Really depends on the company. At my job, when work was slow, I'd volunteer to help out other departments and learn how to do their jobs. This lead to quick promotions and more responsibility which I took on without complaint. Got raises faster than people who have been there longer with the "I get paid by the hour" mentality that have been there longer than me. However, the job I was at before this one, I did the same thing, and my bosses took advantage of it. I received zero incentives, so I quit without notice as soon as I found my current job. Never stop grinding and seeking more, but never settle for those who don't value your effort.
@@purepump Yeah I've had similar experiences. Unfortunately the second has seems to be the norm and the first case is the exception.
Or if they promote internally, the compensation wont change, only the responsibilities.
@@michaeltyers7336 yup I've only had 2 jobs where the exception happened.
I also think a wide majority of desk jobs can actually be done effectively in 5 hours a day instead of 8. Idk why a 40 hour work week is worshipped as the golden minimum standard. Why is it so bad if you wanna spend more time with family, attending to your hobbies, and improving your home life? It grosses me out how obsessed some people are with thinking your value is equated to the hours you work and the misery involved that you endure. Life doesn’t have to be miserable. And it shouldn’t be a standard.
Programing trained to believe so
I do GIS CAD drawing, I can get a 3 months project done in 10 hours, if people sign the freaking service agreements...
I think it also boils down to the current state of economy. You pay so mich to be able to live for food, rent, electricity etc. That a 5 hours paying job a day couldn't help you out of it unless they pay you more for each hour. Which would be amazing to pay off stuff in your life and live your own doing other stuff on the side.
But because of these high prices just to be able to live, they'll never reinvent the way man should get paid unless they are forced to, like the pandemic did with the "working from home".
It's very sad and demotivating at the same time. You wanna work to live, not live to work.
I don't know why desk jobs' standard weekly schedule is an 8 hour shift 5 times a week, and not a 10 hour shift 4 times a week.
You come in at work an hour earlier and leave an hour later, and you get a whole extra day off. It just makes more sense.
@@JsTinVision that sounds miserable to me. I like my job but I don't want to be here for 10 hours. what makes way more sense is just being there when you're needed and if you're in a job where being in a communication loop is necessary, try to adapt the communication channels to facilitate some people not being in the office.
14:30 - That's how it was for me. Web development agency. Easily 50% of the day was meetings or estimating/organizing development tasks (preparation for meetings). The company management was actually proud of this for some reason and stated it wanted it to be 90%. "90% preparation and 10% work" was the idea, but it often doesn't pan out that way. There are always unknowns, maybe things in reality don't fit together the way middle-management/the-ux-guy thought, maybe the customer throws in something 'small' that invalidates all that unnecessary preparation. Lots of times (I'd argue most of the time), doing it quick AND wrong gives you much faster/clearer understanding of what you need to actually do.
The problem is, people value control, not your skill set. Try implementing a machine learning project in a big corporation without it being approved by 10 people who have no clue how to work with the tech. You're gonna get fired, because the value is in the control.
What is not talked about here is the most vital jobs in our society are paid the least. Care workers like me and many other public service workers still treated like shit even after a pandemic highlighted to people who somehow didn't know how vital our jobs are...
Yes your job is very vital in a country that eats like trash. Its a shame.
Unfortunately how vital a job is has nothing to do with the pay. What matters is how many people are willing to do it and how many have the training and how much money that position makes for the employer. Garbage collection is vital, they're never gonna make as much as a software developer.
@@ForeverMasterless 😡😥
@@ForeverMasterlessthaaats capitalism!
The easier it is to replace you, the lower the pay. In another word if your job is hard and requires significant knowledge or skills like a doctor then you will get paid more. Simple
Totally agree, just showing up and doing what is needed makes you valuable af.
It is becoming really a virtue to be at work on time and sober.
@Mike Mo In my experience it works that way. I show up, kick ass and reap the rewards for it. I got more responsibility, self-development and financial bonusses for just being there and doing more than the rest. It’s easy when you understand the game.
@Mike Mo From your response I see that you don’t see the difference between ass kissing and loving your job and putting in the effort. Ass kissing gets you nowhere, that’s why you need results. Can be on a personal level or work related. We live in a generation where people do the bare minimum on their work and people with the working mentality are economically more valuable for an employer.
In my first job, I had to beg for a measly 10% raise after getting promoted. Oh yeah, I got promoted without a raise - the biggest mistake I made.
Switched to a much less stressful job and got a 50% raise. 4 years later, I switch jobs again for a 66% raise.
If you want to get paid your worth, don't stay at a job begging for scraps.
This is a very meaningful video. I was in a really tough corporate job for 7 years. It was my first job after graduation. I find myself getting sucked into a limbo where i don't get to see the sun for long periods of time. It was worth it though. Learnt so much, tripled my pay since then, met and helped so many people from different walks of life. So many doors opened for me and I finally made the move this year to a new company. I am finally in a position where i get to use my brain more instead of sheer effort. To all of you out there, never give up on yourself and those around you! One day you will realise how far you have come and that you have secured a comfortable life for your family and yourself. I am 33 and I am happier than ever.
I have no idea how people like you are able to move up lol. Even when I'm doing really really well I've never been offered a promotion. Is it just knowing the right people? Luck?
@@alexanderjakubowski5673Vitamin B is the biggest probably. Without connecting to people and showing that you are there who are you truly ? The guy who works hard ? well nobody knows that ! so having a few or a lot of great connections can save your butt more often than you can.
@@alexanderjakubowski5673same LMAO 😂😂😂 I was recently laid off bc of supply chain issues but we had a guy literally clocking in and hanging out in his car for hours at a time. He still works there and I'm waiting on my unemployment insurance claim 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The issue, ten thousand percent, is management. Every single company is swamped with management that are there for one reason, to abuse people. That's it.
Good management does not exist anymore and the worker bees are the ones suffering the most bc of it.
Many employers bank on you not knowing what your key valuable skills are worth. About 12 years ago while interviewing for a job, the hiring manager said,
"We've never had anybody interview who could write programs and is also familiar with licensing and certification"
I turned the job down 3 days later and started gaining contract work where I make my own hours and work less than half the time and haven't worked a 40 hour work week since
Many employers know what the job is worth and know that your skills probably exceed what is required but wil still short change you on their offer as they only care about the bottom line. If people are stupid enough to accept low ball offers, that is not their fault if you do not stick up for yourself.
One thing that companies and businesses used to care about is knowledge retention, that's why people would be able to have long careers at big companies. It made sense because you didn't even need to necessarily move up, but you could make more money overall staying. Pensions really are mostly gone in the private sector. Every corporation has decided that short term gain is more important than long term growth and sustainability. That's why so many that had been industry leaders for a lifetime lost their positions in years.
In my experience working in the IT field, not sure if it's like this everywhere, companies don't increase pay enough. You can work somewhere for 3-5 years and only get a small increase in pay. But other companies are willing to pay new experienced people to come in more money. So if you stagnate or get comfortable at one company, the new guys coming in are going to be making substantially more than you. Especially if you come into a company entry level and gain experience. People don't realize they could just get a job somewhere else and get a gigantic raise. It's kind of the only way to get really good pay. You can't stick one job forever anymore. You gotta get a new job every 2-3 years.
I honestly think that peoples patience is running low with how things are. In the past a minimum wage job would be able to buy you a house + a car + sustain your family well enough to be able to go on vacations and put your kids through college. So it was very worth it to grind it and to put up with shit managers. You knew that no matter how shitty your 9 to 5 is you'd be able to afford a good lifestyle. Nowadays a minimum wage 9-5 can't even buy you a premium brand shirt, let alone a house + a car. The incentive to put up with shitty working conditions and a shitty boss is no longer there. So people job-hop looking for better conditions. People now know that no matter how hard you work, you can no longer get promoted from janitor to head of a department. If you're a janitor you will always be a janitor, no matter how hardworking you are. Companies no longer care for the well being of their workers and aim to squeeze every last bit of 'productivity' from them without giving them a raise or an opportunity to build their career further. This leads people to frustration. Heck - the inflation is more than what people who get promoted get. So each year you are poorer and poorer - imagine in 40 years of just losing money. All for what? Loyalty to a company that will sack you as soon as they start losing money over a stupid CEO decision?
I think very soon we will see a lot of old-style companies either having to adapt or going bankrupt as boomers are dying off and the rest of the workforce isn't putting up with the crap companies shovel anymore.
It’s seriously insane how bad things are for the average fast food / retail employee. I go to school and work part time as a cashier and out of the 30 employees only 2 or 3 actually “own” a house, basically everyone is in an apartment, paying outrageous car payments for old cars, and barely surviving paycheck to paycheck. The minimum wage for the company is $15/hr and that’s not even enough to survive by yourself in this economy. My coworkers have no extra money, no retirement plans, no savings, and they are basically just stuck in this job with little opportunities to get promotions.
I’m very fortunate to live with my parents and only work part time while I go to school, and it was very eye opening to see how bad it is.
my parents raised me by working 9-5 jobs. i have the luxury to think about whether i want a 9-5 jobs or waste my life doing art is because they did the grind. im grateful for them, and hey lets face the reality, if everyone becomes youtuber in a country, that country is doomed.
I can whole heartedly recommend getting into a specialized trade my friend. Best decision I’ve ever made.
9-5? you mean 9-6
The real rub.
@@Lambert-hr7smyes this is true. I work for a developer and all of our construction trades who we contract make a lot of money. A lot of the tradesmen too (plumbers, electricians, etc)end up starting their own businesses as well, with their own team and they end up making even more money. I don’t see how it’s possible for technology or AI to ever take away jobs from trades. At least for hands-on trades like construction, you will always need people to do it. And they’re always in demand. There’s always a perpetual and massive housing shortage in my area too.
the problem is with content creators is like if the country actually has a serious serious internal issues, like a real civil war, these people become irrelevant in seconds. And none of them can really provide or do anything they dont know a trade they probably can barely work a 2 stroke motor. Meanwhile the people who have somesort of trade will get by electricians, people who can build, people who know how to connect underground wires to transformers that power shopping centers/malls communitys, i get paid like 3-5 grand for 2-3 hours of work on these jobs. Its high voltage but would i rather know that or be a streamer, all that im missing is the fame and tbh im good they can have that, i dont need donating fans to keep myself alive and eating. Theyre just as useless/useful as actors.
The problem with the job culture right now is not this "old jobs/lifestile", is how they didnt evolve.
We dont need to work 9 hours a per day, 6 days per week anymore, we dont need to go to the office to do some stupid computer work (that isnt classified information), the salary didnt raise enough with the living cost, now put all of this together with a generation that knows how bad is working for a living, and living to work another day. No one want those bad.bad jobs, some people will do it anyway, but things will change
Not to mention, technology has allowed for many things to be automated. Productivity has multiplied multiple times over the last 2 decades, yet wages have been utterly stagnant and hours grown longer. 99% of the population is being bled dry to enrich the 0.1%.
I work with classified info and it’s very easy to work from home. We have work laptops and it establishes an encrypted connection with our internal Network. Unless you literally work for NASA you can probably get away with working from home
Worker productivity goes up, inflation trends up over the past few decades, cost of living in general has a similar story to inflation, yet people are still working two jobs to make ends meet. Your points are all true, the environment around work is so different but work itself hasn't adapted
The one thing I want to emphasis to the younger generation is to push hard to get into blue collar jobs, we are going to need alot of them and they will pay better because there is less corporate influence.
Just want to add, when you actually do your work well, pretty much 80% of your other employees resent you because now they have to step up. It's just weird man. lol
I've experienced this an insane amount of times. If you're really good at what you do, it makes everyone else look bad and they try to take you down.
I've experienced almost everything in this video and in the comments and to be honest at this point I do the very, very bare minimum and literally every job is temporary to me now. Managers cannot recognize talent to save their lives. And I say this bc I watch all of these companies do worse and worse after I leave.
@@slamdangles what's sad is they succeed in taking you down with ease
@@vaylalynn3679 I wouldn't say with ease man, but they definitely took me down. I was working with a company doing phone cable and internet service and they tried for a year to catch me on something and finally they made up a story to get rid of me.
One place I can absolutely verify that if you're super productive it makes everyone hate you.... United Health Group! I had processed medical claims for 8 years, so when I joined them their newbies were processing maybe 10 claims an hour. I was averaging 35. They had people on the floor who had been there 10 years that couldn't touch those numbers.
It made them look really bad and it exposed how little work they were actually doing, so I genuinely was a threat to them and they yeeted me.
I worked very briefly with the American Heart Association and I was shadowing with some of their techs and they didn't know the first thing about troubleshooting, but they were all getting paid like $20/hour. I was out within a few weeks.
I genuinely don't know what the formula is for staying with a company long term, I just show up, do my job to the best of my ability and clock out when I'm supposed to and that makes people hate me for some reason.
It makes me feel less alone to see other people have experienced this too
In large corporate environments/Small/Indie/Startups, I've encountered numerous instances of incompetence. Unfortunately, despite hard work and success, the credit rarely comes my way. Even when tasks are handled with finesse, the recognition is minimal, and praise is often behind closed doors. Once you step outside those doors, the acknowledgment disappears.
And then there are the people who barely do any work that get constant public praise, "so great to work with" and blah blah blah
Honestly, a lot of this hits home. I was struggling to enjoy most jobs at all. I ended up making my job and 7 years later I'm running my own business where I run D&D and other ttrpg's for people. It took me a lot of commitment and energy to get here but 100% worth it.
Nay sayers will say you can't do it, don't ignore them, but don't let them get to you, stay focused and open to different paths to get to your goal
Can you explain what you did? Like do you run a club with campaigns people pay to be in?
@@DaBandOFunnies I basically just made a post on Facebook asking if any of my friends would be interested in paying a very small amount to play a personalised campaign and then over time it slowly grew from something I did each weekend for like $20 to working full time nowadays. It’s something where I have a room for it at home but also offer to travel to customer’s places if they’d rather. We also offer online sessions
^_^ so no club but I do have a standing offer from local hobby stores to run there if I need the space
Happy to answer any other questions you might have
How does that Business Work? A Professional Dungeon Master?
@@silverhawkscape2677 dude probably makes the lore, world building, enemy balancing etc but he could also run premade ones like curse of strahd or storm king's thunder
He also doesn't really need to make a new campaign if it's new clients but I also wanna bet that he takes inspiration from the players characters if they are written well enough
@@silverhawkscape2677 So I create a campaign or a one shot depending on what the customers want then they pay me a certain amount per person to play through it ^_^
Usually I get repeat customers who play through a campaign and I shape it depending on what kind of experience they all want. Generally we have 4-6 players per group
I agree I have worked exclusively from home for 3 years now and I do maybe 5-6 hours of actual work per week and all the other time is chilling. I even run all my errands on company time, I just make sure I'm always available.
And I still get praise lmao.
Great timing with that video.
1,5 year ago me and my mate have left our well-paying jobs because we didn't feel that we were doing anything impactful. We were both creating paper and powerpoints which sometimes were used but more often shelved. We are still unemployed and pursuing our hobbies.
His wife works for one of "big four" and first in line to become director. She managed to avoid the promotion for the last two years taking overseas projects etc. She doesn't want the job as it will come with much larger responsibilities and a bit more money.
My wife left a large health centre to open her own practice and now she works only with people whom she wants to work. She doesn't have to chase profit and often rejects clients who might be problematic.
We all have enough money to live comfortably. More money is always nice but once you cross a certain threshold, free time and doing what you really like is more important. Our boomer-bosses might say we are spoiled or earn too much, but we simply believe there are more important things in life than the job.
I once heard “if your manager’s job is to watch over your shoulder as you work, than your manager doesn’t have enough work to do”
Lets also not forget when you work too hard at a job the employer will not promote you because you handle your current position so well.
Most common result in my experience, the person who gets promoted is usually a woman who can’t do the job hired so gets promotion to supervisory role
@@hallowakers3d2y most common result is incompetent, male sociopaths being pulled up by other incompetent, male sociopaths to keep the male sociopath club going, but okay
@@illegalopinions4082 I guess it depends on how comfortable you feel with your job. I bet you would not be doing your best for company that couldn't care less about you as a person and is not giving you a fair payment.
@@JesusProtects They were very obviously being sarcastic. 🙄
@@yt_nh9347 The company had a computer system that orders are track by, we would have meetings where we would go over a spreadsheet the system spits out. There was plenty of info to get a % of added productivity per employee. I started as a booth welder, after 3 months knew 90% of the parts by memory without looking at print and had some of the lowest returns on our shift by that point, w slightly above average production rate. Worked there a year before, they cut everyone’s Christmas bonus after 20+ years always giving them out. Was 5th year under new ownership. I had previous experience as robotics welding operator, was approached by supervisor w hey the robotics operator is taking vacation do you think you could learn how to take over for a week? At the time my willingness the learn and create value for the company was very high, so ofc I say yes. The robotics guy quit that week bc he found higher paying job doing the same thing. They waited another week to ask me if I was willing the learn the robot troubleshooting and how to write programs. I said yes as the robot makes the work much easier and faster for the booth welders and had previous experience working w miller certified robot welder. Come to find out they didn’t want to pay me more bc it was considered an easier job there. This was 2nd welding job coming out of school, don’t put yourself after any company unless you got blood that owns the company. If they are wanting you to learn a specific skill for the better of the company better be asking when you’re getting paid more. Now work for a friend I made from that company that owns his own small company, making the some of the same parts we did at the first shop
That comment about doing pizza parties for motivation is extremely surface level. The real lasting way to get people to stick around at a job is to make them feel like they hold more stake in the company than just pay and benefits. Make them feel committed to the mission of the company and feel like their opinions and ideas are heard and implemented. The best managers help their workers do their jobs better
hell naw its to leave them alone to do their jobs. places with "missions" are the worst places to work, those places attract the most toxic people.
I used to throw those pizza parties, it’s a joke. If you are getting a pizza party you need to leave.
F*** those damn pizza party's. Give me a day or even a half day off and keep your crappy Little Caesars pizza. 😂
lol what
the way you get people to stick around is paying them comfortable wages and respecting their time
100% copium
I quit a job in highschool once because they were treating me like garbage and I remember them saying “no two week notice?” And I just responded with “would you give me a two week notice before firing me?”
Any team based work that can be done remotely benefits a lot of having good internal relationships both in between different departments and among people of same one. So being able to work remotely without the daily thing of dealing with people that might or might not match that much with you and just going once every now and then to attend days that are organized around that goal is very valuable and makes easier for people to get along with each other.
I have been struggling to figure out how to "make it" in the real world, for 20 years...
I'm 34 working my 15th job, and it hit me I'm not a 9-5er. My cousin bought some land with the severance pay from his last 9-5 and is to the point where he needs some help to keep up with the amount of crops he has in rotation. I have looked into vermicomposting and worm castings. Proud to say I'm gonna be a worm farmer boys!!!!
The corporate 9-5 world isn't for everyone stop beating your head against a brick wall and find the thing that makes you feel like you have worth instead of saying yes sir/ma'am for 8 hours a day 5 days a week....
I wanna do something like this
I can't do corporate work either. I have to be outside doing something. I work hard but I'm in shape and sleep like a baby every night. Sitting at a desk every day would just make me want to die,lol. Something about that sunshine makes me happy.
This hits for real I turned down management in the kitchen I work for multiple times. Why? They had nothing to offer me that will help improve on the life I live. I make the money needed to keep my life on track and enjoy what I want. Why would I want extra work and stress for maybe a dollar more? I like the change that society is going through in my opinion, great discussion/reaction.
Head chef for 12 years, just moved states and decided to go line cook. Making the same as I was as head chef. I tell them no when they try to call me in. I request days off to fish with my son. Got a mini 4 day trip for ice fishing coming up. Fuck management. I worked doubles every weekend for 10 years and I'm in a better spot life wise and financially just rocking the grill.
Same here. I've been offered a promotion and the pay is like an extra 10-20% for about 50-100% extra work. Not worth it.
@@heretic9484 Exactly most managers I know and talk to regret taking that position purely due to the extra stress on their personal lives. Also, hope you enjoy the trip with your family. You deserve that time my friend.
@@theravenousrabbit3671 I agree 100% they expect you to over perform and pile the stress on, without any compensation.
@@DannyUntamed Well, they do give you compensation. But the big problem is with how it works.
I've seen it happen dozens of time now, where managers basically put their work load on high performing workers.
Give them like 10-20% pay raise (Which is basically nothing for a blue collar worker.)
Then they take all the credit while they do less of the work. Leaving them with more leisure time for useless meetings, while getting MORE pay in the end.
It is basically just a manipulative tactic by managers and more often than not, managers are not there because of their own performance. But rather due to how well they can kiss ass.
I work in maintenance at a factory, and I hate it. Having to stay there for 44h every week (9h each day except fridays) but only working around 5h effectively. Feels like I'm wasting my time being there and all i think about is what other stuff i could be doing instead. And when i get home and can do the stuff I'd been thinking of all day, I'm just too mentally drained from all the non productive hours, so I just sit and stare at nothing.
I feel the same way in my construction job. Most of the time is wasted, bored out my mind, and that is even when kept busy. I understand that in the grand scheme of things it is a waste of my time. I force myself to edit videos and write songs and books, just to try and experience some mental and spiritual agency.
I work at an office job as an IT system administrator. Most days, I only work about 2 hours a day. At first I felt guilty about this. But after more experience in the office environment, time on reddit, etc. It turns out.. this is totally normal. In fact, after digging around in my own company, there are a couple positions where the employee does absolutely nothing. And in fact, sit around all day coming up with things to do to justify their jobs. Once I found this out, I stopped feeling guilty. I relized that even though I probably only actually work 20 hours of the 40 I get paid for, I am STILL doing more work than 1/3 of the people in my office.
Plus, they still have you available at the spot in case anything happens. So you just sitting there does have a value in itself.
Think of most IT positions as an insurance policy.
Your yearly pay, is going to be cheaper than if they need to call in an outside company in an emergency situation.
That's when you go the over-employed route and get a second job for that salary
Yeah, but when the shit hits the fan you are needed, so some downtime is obvious or your organisation is not fit for purpose. There is only so much access you can grant and shuffling of passwords you can do in 8 hours. I know a lot of people play games during work.
Forgot about the, having your 401k stolen from you when you are 64, and being forced to work until you are buried. Or they implode the economy and your savings, that would have lasted 100 years by 1980's inflation, now only lasts another 10 years. So you have to start working again, as a 95 year old.
I mean if they had invested, that saving would be worth just as much.
@@Claymorw Or it could be worth less if they invested in the wrong thing or at a wrong time, there is always risk.
@@melanp4698 You are investing by working and paying your taxes. You're not being smart, you're just being an apologist. It shouldn't be like this. Period.
@@melanp4698 what is the purpose of taxes, then?
My friends boss couldn't even bother to hire a replacement for him after he put in his 2 month notice so they ended up paying him 2x his wage as a contractor until they finally hired someone to replace him. Expecting these same people to be able to manage a cell of robots is unbelievably ambitious to say the least.
I worked airport security for a while, and one of the things I learned is that they need someone to be accountable when things go wrong, so they can't just automate it. When it's a team of people, you can make scapegoats. When it's you supervising a bunch of robots? It's all on you, man.
@@SkellyHertz Automation in security also has a good old "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" problem.
I work at Chipotle, and honestly it's constant work. Food has to be massively prepped in the morning, and consistently prepped throughout the day to maintain freshness *also cause they had a few e-coli out breaks* When the morning prep is gone after the lunch rush, if you go in the afternoon, and something is out, most of the time they simply don't have the man power to keep up with certain things like the queso, cause keeping the chicken fresh, and the rice going and not hard is constant.
At my first ever 5-9 job my boss litteraly told me that if someone works in the same company for more than 3 years, then they are a bad and lazy employee🙈 She is somewhat right thou, ive seen so many people doing litteraly nothing at work and they've been working for 10+ years
The value of money has decreased so much, that the increase in money for more responsibility just isn't worth it. My parents had 25% less income, their property cost them 80% less than it would today... even a bread has increased 75% in price since then...
The pay increase they got back then compared to the prices of anything were just much more significant.
The part about hitting the top 50% at a job just by showing up and doing the job has been consistently true for me since I was 16. I'm 40 now and i'll be absolutely honest,i'm not a "great" employee. But I do the job as instructed and SOME-FUCK-HOW,that's enough to be employee of the month in a lot of places.
I had a job in fast food for a month, management approached me and asked if I was interested in a shift lead position. It was my first job. I asked “why?” And the answer was that I didn’t complain and I showed up…
@@samuelrichards5521 this. This 100%.
It's hit or miss in my experience. Sometimes you soar to the spotlight like you said. But if the work culture is full of tryhards, you'll end up breaking your body and getting injured trying to keep up with all the psychos who are acting like they live in Japan.
So, companies expect ppl to work for them for 30 years and can hardly afford a single family home. 30 years for that!
People looking down on physical labor is going to be a thing of the past soon. Automation is going to kick in for a lot of jobs and things like construction workers, plumbers, even friggen garbage collectors are going to be far more valuable places because they are harder (If not impossible) to automate. They don't pay much right now due to barrier of entry being very low, who knows how that'll look once the work world shifts. UBI is going to be necessary just to live.
The pay would be even lower, more workers means less money
I was a restaurant manager for 14 years, I am now in maintenance at the post office and I absolutely love it. I don't see myself ever going back into management.
Incidentally, I’m trying to get into maintenance at the post office now. Have to wait until June. I’m hoping I can pass the test and go straight in, but I don’t mind becoming custodial before maintenance if I have to
@@iiBenihime wait, I'm in maintenance at the PO myself. I'm a lvl 9 mpe(it's very much worth going for)
What's your position there?
@@rensutra5880 I’m currently just a Mail Handler on Tour 2 (No one wanted a Tuesday Wednesday bid, lol), I only got converted September 10th of 2022, so I have to wait for the 18 month mark to switch crafts which is June 1st for me.
Can confirm. Former IT/Network eng. Now I run a zamboni and do general maintenance around the rink. About the same amount of hours, but way more enjoyable for about half the ducets.
i work in the construction industry (admin role) and we hire on site installers that demand $110 an hour, if we pay any less they will immediately pack up and go to a competitor, they are in such high demand that you just have to pay the price or else youre not gonna be able to finish the project.
Installer for what
I worked for a defense company that once offered a pizza party...just one slice per employee
I have always seen physical labor as harder and riskier. You fall once youre not only out a job but saddled with medical debt the rest of your life.
What I hear you saying is all laborers deserve massive danger pay
It certainly is riskier, but it’s just the obvious choice for some people.
Like for myself, I’ve worked construction, roofing, etc. because I cannot fathom having a job where you just sit at a desk all day
@@daltonroberts7312 absolutely. And medical to be covered and none of this dodging coverage I have seen done.
@@iiBenihime for me I have never been in the right physical shape and accident prone so obviously keep me at a desk.
People make 100k+ in construction because they pay with their physical bodies. That's not a job normal people can do for 25+ years. People move on to be foremen, supervisors, managers, consultants, union reps, etc. because their bodies and their families just can't take it any more.
"If you don't like being poor, increase your skill set and work your way up the corporate ladder." If everyone did that, there would be nobody left to work for you. It's not a realistic notion to say everyone should become a CEO if they don't want to struggle and be poor. Not everyone has that ability, and not everyone wants to do that.
The truth is: Those higher positions are in limited supply. Most of the time, the company that hires you has zero intention of promoting you. Ever. You are supposed to do the grunt work until you die. There are exceptions, but those are becoming exceedingly rare.
It's also unrealistic to think even 10% of the people who heard that will do it. "Well if 100% of people do it then it won't work so I won't do it" is such a paradoxically stupid take because it proves in itself 100% won't do it
@@jaredcollins2049 You missed the point of my comment. I'm not saying whether or not it's realistically possible that everyone will become a CEO. I'm saying that people shouldn't live in abject poverty working a fulltime job, and the only solution is to climb the corporate ladder. I would argue maybe 20% or less of the total population has the mindset to want to become a CEO/corporate x, y or z. Some people just want to not be poor. I don't really understand where you stand on this, because all you brought to this conversation is "that's not realistic," and provided no stance.
Psst most people wont do that which makes room for you.
@@Nostalgiaforinfi Psst, just because people don't choose to play the corporate game, doesn't mean they should have to live in abject poverty. If your reading comprehension was above a third grade reading level, you would understand that is what I was trying to say.
"If you want to keep people motivated at work give them more money" Exactly! Also having enough workers to cover the workload w/o stressing the current employees who know what they're doing and do their job well goes a long way. I'll never work retail again. I gave my all to the point my body and mind were suffering every single day just for them to not schedule workers in adjacent areas to save a buck expecting me to pick up the slack. There I am during hunting season with a line of people wanting hunting licenses while simultaneously showing guns and then people in the department over wanting paint mixed yet no other workers on that side of the store. I ask management for help and what do they do? The manager on a power trip decides they didn't like that I asked for help so they wrote me up. Being underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated really messes up a human being. Here I am nearly a decade later with horrible tendonitis in my elbow I got from lifting car batteries and still having literal nightmares about retail when I'm sleeping. PTSD is no joke. Fuck 'em.
I watched the "fuck em" 30 second snippet like 20 times, omg such gold lololol
As a brazilian i find it very stressful, here things are very similar in some aspects but turned to worst. im constantly afraid of what will be of me in the job market and i have little hope in my country, my future and the existence of hope.
Thinking about this stuff is aways fun as one could tell
Hey man, America isn't looking much better at the moment. Just remember that hard times have happened before, don't convince yourself you can't overcome them. I mean this in the kindest way, I hope that comes across.
@@daviddobarganes9115 I do understand that, but I cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that I'm not quite the exemple of a prepared man. I may be able to overcome a sad day but a Dictatorship and communist party is kinda hard not gonna lie 😅.
Thank you for being friendly tho, kinda heartwarming for me to see a good message in these troublesome times.
@daviddobarganes9115 America is doing much better than Brazil actually. It's just America isn't doing well in comparison to itself.
@@tacsmith yeah, but I don't judge him, it's natural in the human to think that his world is having the worst time ever aways. Like, I'm almost certain that most African and Asian countries are having it much worst than us
@@defalttheloner of course. I wasn't attempting to judge. But sometimes it's good to have some perspective. Often times, when I look at things with gratitude, it can change my entire outlook.
As someone who’s always excelled everywhere I worked. Older leadership have recently stopped retiring but rather hold their positions and provide nothing of value. I hate this trend of position holding. A lot of turnover is because there’s no upward mobility these days.
I just saw the video of a construction worker of a house (here in México, so the houses are brick, steel and cement), the boss told the workers that the owner will pay them but the next day they are due.
One of the workers gets furious and start sledgehammering a set of stairs, while the other records him
And with just reason, construction workers here on México live in poverty, while the architect is the one getting full praise, and the problem is that the contractor and workers need the design to what they are making, but the workers are the one that end the day with hands burned by materials, arms that cant do too much after work, legs that barely hold them and the feet feel like walking on bright hot coals
they are the ones that cant sleep at the end of the day because of their aching body even though the level of exhaustion, but its the architects that take the best cut of the work, including getting praises for the details and quality of the end product
The problem has never been getting my work done, it has always been no one else doing their work.
I've been in software engineering for like 8 years now. The 80-20 rule creates a simple problem. Everyone wants to be paid more, but only 20% of people are worth more money to the company. Interviewing is imperfect in determining talent, so for 80% of people, the way for them to climb is to ping pong around between companies. The strategy of remaining loyal only works if you're in the minority of people who are high performers.
Being a high performer, like me, is counterproductive if you have a boss who is jealous. They will undercut you and fire you.
@@irrationalpie3143 In engineering, right now you have all the power due to market wide shortages of talent so in many cases if it comes to either you or boss, most companies will probably choose you (of course this requires you to get noticed which often requires your boss to do his job and have your best interest in mind). In such a scenario, you looking elsewhere can really only benefit you. Having a positive relationship with management is one of the most important things to workplace happiness, which if you make excess as an engineer, should be even more important than making more money.
@@askmiller Let me dispel your rosy perception of how Fortune 500 companies operate. In a large company, management is primarily concerned with covering their own rear, advancing / protecting their own career gains, and playing internal politics. Many of them have outdated performance systems where your manager is the ONLY entity in the company in charge of evaluating your performance. Management one level above your manager, has no idea what you're working on for the most part. I've been a technical leader in cellular 2G,3G,4G, 5G and GNSS technologies in my group for 9 years, and my director had not a slightest clue what I was working on that entire time. Once I got a new ambitious narcissistic young manager after my previous manager left, he wanted all the credit for himself, and he fired people as he pleased. I'm sure after he's added the management experience to his resume, he'll leave to wreck a new engineering group at a new company.
@@irrationalpie3143 I've been employed as a software engineer across 2 Fortune 500 companies for almost 2 decades. In my positions, I eventually got to the level where I would present to customers on behalf of the company about project performance. These types of meetings go directly to upper management first, and they are often directly aware of what I am doing. Besides that level though, directors can learn of what you're doing if you directly interact with them. Depending on the size of your location, they might be willing to have lunch with you and learn more about what your team is doing. At a minimum though, there's no reason to not be friendly towards them. You're right that performance measures are often outdated. Years of experience tend to dictate a huge percentage of your perceived performance. I don't know if my experience with software engineering translates to your wireless expertise directly, but in my line of work, even if the upper managers know nothing of what you're doing, simply losing a head in a position they're actively trying to fill might be viewed as unacceptable. Yea your boss will probably spin some story as to why you leaving is justified, but even if they do, clearly leaving is in your best interest anyway.
@@askmiller Actually when you're in customer facing positions , it's much safer and you get the visibility. When I supported customer bids or deployments it was fine. However as soon as you lose that access to positivity of supporting customers, sales managers etc, you're at the risk of having performance judged based on loyalty and sycophancy. I'm in wireless systems engineering (not software) , however in December 2022 in my department they got rid of 75% of software engineers in my group. Allegedly to transfer those same jobs to Bangalore. The thing is, those software engineers were responsible for 90% of currently shipping product in the niche that I worked in (Industrial IoT) , so basically inter-department consolidation wars claiming victims left and right.
As an accountant, i feel you attacked me for 42 mins😂😂😂
Have you seen the movie: The Accountant?
@@TibiConstantine hahaha
@@TibiConstantine great movie
Fellow accountant here, for real lol
yep, same
All I'm seeing here is that there is always opportunity if you want it. This builds in more opportunity for those motivated for it. I'm happy for those that get to work 50% less. But for those that want to build skills and change their work into something else it really gives you the time to do that.
Wtf do I wanna become 65 and retired and than I can enjoy my life. Hell no I wanna enjoy my life when I’m young while still working and living comfortably
The person who said something along the lines of “pizza party’s are good for increasing employees moral” is a delusional manager 100%.
Bro in some states electronicians and plumbers are making more than lawyers
@n30n Attend a Vocational School where you can learn how to do specific jobs.
My friend went there with me, he became an electrician and I became an IT-guy.
In Finland the bus drivers make more than welders
Lawyers don’t always make bank. Girl I knew was a lawyer so I thought oh cool she’s doing real well in life. Nope, living with her parents making 38k CAD. Fully licenced lawyer. I made more money drilling holes in pieces of aluminum part time, while in university.
Real men weld their foreskins back on
@@BruceWillis57 Correct, I can confirm.
Cos' I live in Finland.
Imagine having a job 🤣, as a new grad who sent hundreds of resumes I can afirm its borderline impossible
Yeah you really gotta just know people, it’s sooo much easier to get into a job and it’s usually some of the best jobs
The working hard and smart at a workplace especially where I use to work at u get punished for it. Lazy ppl get promoted instead so it's different to every area cause in my area u just get punished instead for thinking outside of the box.
It is interesting. Let's say you are in a position peeling potatoes. You do this for 3 years and make, let's say, $12 an hour. You ask your boss for a $2 dollar raise. They decline. You get hired at a nother place peeling potatoes for $15 an hour. The old job puts an add in the paper after checking the market for $15 an hour. I have seen companies do this ALL the time. Rather than keep their experienced help and pay them raises to keep up with the market, they deny them, they leave and then end up paying some newbie they have to spend money on training the same rate anyway.
This reminds me of when I was an assistant manager at a store. I clearly did a good job as they wanted me there 6 nights a week every week, I was there for over 2 years straight. But giving me 40 shifts with 0 others scheduled then complaining about my shift not getting stock done when it was literally just me and the night shift was always busier than the day shift as folks getting off work would stop in to grab anything from soda to cigarettes.
One of the other assistant managers didn't even get half as much shit as me and he didn't even show up 50% of the time. Meanwhile I was always a few minutes early, I'd take on any OT they needed me to cover. Even working stuff like night shifts followed by an 18 hour shift so I only had like 6 hours between those shifts
We are more materialistic now, the main difference is that most people can no longer own what they buy but they can buy so much more (TV's, Computers, games, etc.). It's especially obvious in real estate, most people these days will never be able to afford to actually purchase their home and even cars are getting to the point that a lot of folks are leasing rather than buying. "You'll own nothing and be happy."
I changed 4 companies in 5 years. My salary now its doubled. The only way to increase your salary when you are a fresh graduate its to keep changing companies and look for better jobs. Keep learning and improve yourself in a company for 1-2 years just learn everything you can there and when there is nothing left to learn its time to say goodbye. Keep a nice relation with previous ones just in case you might return someday. I am speeking as an economist/ accountant. If you are workong at McDonalds and you are making sandwiches there is nothing to learn... I guess?
I think the issue with today work and career building is that it doesn’t feel uplifting, even for reputable professions. It feels exploitative. Why should I work my ass off all my life if in the end I can barely afford a just above the average home at best? There is simply no more incentive. At a certain point improving your social life and finding new and better ways to live life with what you have is a better investment of time which makes you appreciate life instead of hating it.
100% true
Put in your work and put in your fun. Balance
I remember back then like a year or 2 ago Asmon was talking on stream how easily replaceable jobs treat you like shit and if you want better benefits and more vacation time, acquire a skill that's valuable.
I took that to heart and now I'm a Software Engineer at JPMC with no degree
Yeah, I had degrees to become a professional interpreter, and instead ended up in QA. I f*cking love it, and there’s barely enough of us at all times bc engineers sneer at stuff that are not development/specification.
I’m literally being haunted on Linkedin at this point, especially for senior tech writing jobs 🤷🏻♀️ that’s the perfect stepping stone for a transition like this
Question from me is then how do you decide on which skill to learn?
As in i have no goal or any current skill... and no i don't know what i would like to do for work, at all which is my problem...
(Well the only goal i would have is not having to worry about money, so being rich i guess...)
@@Yamidoragon Nice, I'm actually creating canaries for the next couple of months
@@redroyce4590 That's a very tough question tbh. I was in the same boat as you, I just tried different stuff dealing with tech cause I always been into computers and I just happened to come across something I like in that field.
@@Yamidoragon what's QA?
The most common phase I heard while working at a close to min wage job, $12 dollars or lower, is "They didn't pay me to care."
my office is now switching to a work from home scheme after we tried hybrid for a year. I can't lie. I enjoyed the hybrid model because the company culture where I worked was nice (aka I actually like my colleagues and boss and we got free lunches when we went to the office ). but besides that I get so much more done at home, a lot quicker and it leaves me with 3-4 extra hours a day to go gym, do chores and even work on my portfolio for a couple of hours a day to self develop further. I like this change and I hope I can continue to work remotely so that in the future I can use the extra hours to start a business or a passion project. EDIT: Also the fact I dont waste two hours of travel a day means more gayming / social time for me :)
I prefer to refer to UBI(Universal Basic Income) as DDCM(Don't Do Crime Money), because that's what it is. If you lost your job because a robot took it, the rent is due, and there is no food in the fridge, it's time to do some crime to survive. However, if you have a DDCM check coming in every month that is enough to cover the rent, groceries, and maybe a $100 extra for recreation, you're not going to do crime. You now have time to find another job, or train in a different skill to make more money to get off the DDCM.
@@shadowfax333 Unemployment benefits have a lot of strings attached, at least in the US. It's not an easy system to interact with.
@@shadowfax333 it should be. My personal experience with unemployment the one time I needed it was that it a). Did not cover my expenses at all and B). Ate up a fuck ton more time “proving” you were looking for work and not doing fraud. They really try to give out as little unemployment as possible. It is not a system which is on your side.
That would be a disaster
16:10 Yep. Best advice I ever got growing up was "Knowledge makes you worth more and when you have that knowledge it can't be taken away from you." Goes hand in hand with having more responsibility. The more knowledge you have the more responsibility you can take on, proportional to your work ethic. Responsibility can be an easier job for those that can identify how to make work more efficient. Least effort for most reward.
If it dose not rain, how is your knowledge going to help you be wealthy? All these BS ideals are for the benefit of the rich and government.
Knowledge is power. And because of that, the globalist warmongers have worked overtime to make sure you won't get useful knowledge.
im incredibly anxious to get into the working world, to me, not going in yet, it looks like a trapdoor that's going to open under me at any second (I think that's what they call "lack of job security"?)
this is just what I see on the news of people spontaneously losing their jobs, massive lay offs or a company deciding they can unload 200+ people to save money on that quarter by replacing those employees with lower wage rookies that _might_ do the job
Welcome to reality. It's always been like this though. Life is not fair and every single day is a roll of the dice. There's no guaranteed way to roll a higher outcome, you just have to keep rolling the dice.
I can't begin to even state how many jobs I've worked where asking for raises wasn't even an option. You either get a flat raise on a yearly basis or you only get raises when you get promoted. The job market is shit right now.
Videos like these are why I keep watching Asmon, the diversity of the content is always great. And I love his takes on working in general
His diversity of content is just him watching random videos
@@ChadAV69 And yet, his commentary is valuable enough that *YOU'RE* here listening to it. 😉
In the words of Linus when he got his staff health / death benifits "employers need to realize there is NO shortage of labor, they have a shortage of pay and benefits and need to fix it"
@@AuspexAO the company I just left was hiring trash but they did it on purpose, we would warn them not to hire certain people because of violent pasts with current employees. hired on the frkin spot. he later was arrested during a STANDOFF with police after a girl escaped his house in chains. So a company tried poaching me and did.. to try and pay me less.. then the old company calls "desperate" for help they literally closed my shift..
I'm like cool, as long as you pay me right, I left because they werent. Dude says of course, my first day back i notice my pay rate is lower than when I left.
So now I'm freelance, no boss and make more than either could of offered.
I saw the stack of candidates and knew some of them would of been amazing, with shining resumes. Frankly, the company cant blame the employee if they hire gold star types
@@AuspexAO I do agree mostly, but i feel at the moment, its a workers market, once the recession goes full blown and the media takes the duct tape off its mouth it will become an employers market again.
Good thing is in general ive been noticing a lot more sign on bonuses, instant insurance benifits, and higher starting wages in places that are ... lets say.. a little more serious about hiring help. :D
Companies that invest in the health and wellbeing of their own employees deserves the utmost amount of respect.
48 years here and still gaming ;)
tried doing it, top colleges, top degrees, top grades, 0 interviews after college, gave up long ago, I'm not begging my friends
My mom works in a bank and when they wanted to give someone a promotion no one wanted that. It was bc u had to work more and harder but no pay increse.
I tried having a “normal” job, didn’t work out. Screwed over and threw under the bus and after 5 years, finally have a job that I enjoy while pursuing my dream of being a youtuber/streamer. Still grinding, never slacking off, and having fun along the way but I never did that before this job. Find something you enjoy, and you’ll make it out alright.
Be smart with your choices and like he says, re evaluate every week if you’re doing what’s right for yourself. If not, make a change
The key to workplace success is three things:
- be good at your job
- be likable
- follow the rules
Pick two. If you're in a government job, pick one.
If every company wasn't so obsessed with holding monopoly's instead of getting the most for their employee's and selling quality products then we wouldn't be at this impasse now where we have to choose between brain dead work for less than livable wages or stepping on other people to get ahead.
I worked the gun counter part time at a sporting goods store that went tits up during covid. But tbh it was one of the best jobs I ever had. The store manager he pretty much stayed out of the way and we never saw him unless there was an issue or sales were down which was hardly never. I worked part time however was constantly the top sales performer. The store manger wanted me to come on full time and manage the firearms department.
I turned him down flat. There was a flat pay raise but it would have been less time with customers and selling guns. So a lot of this make a real good point. I made more money working part time with less bs than I would I had taken a promotion.