Jerome Caminada - The Original Sherlock Holmes

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • Jerome Caminada - The Original Sherlock Holmes
    Chronicle of the Times Episode 49 | 1868 - 1899
    Who has not heard of, even vaguely, Arthur Conan Doyle's iconic Sherlock Holmes charachter with the insdispensable Dr Watson?
    Where did this inspiration come from? We submit Jerome Caminada, one of the most famous detectives you never heard of. His story, and some of his cases, are reviewed in this episode.
    Hosted by Robin Coles.
    #ChronicleofTheTimes #britishhistory #documentary #Victorianage #literature #bedtimestories #caminada #sherlockholmes #realcrimestory
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Комментарии • 17

  • @iggit2
    @iggit2 Месяц назад +3

    Good evening/morning from NJ. Thanks Robin and Team

  • @tillyg8858
    @tillyg8858 Месяц назад +4

    This was a great story. Carminada got his man/woman. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @xenia367
    @xenia367 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you so much for a great story ❤❤❤❤

  • @nadiabrook7871
    @nadiabrook7871 Месяц назад +4

    Wow!! I'd NEVER heard of Jerome Caminada before!! What a VERY INTERESTING character!!
    Thanks for sharing Jerome's story, Robin!! 💕👏🥰💞🤗❤👍😊

    • @ChronicleofTheTimes2024
      @ChronicleofTheTimes2024  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you - really glad you liked it! We are Conan Doyle fans and we know that he, and Dickens, regularly got inspiration from the news around them. He was a man ahead of his time. 😉Thank you very much, as always, for yoru tremendous support!🙏

    • @nadiabrook7871
      @nadiabrook7871 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@ChronicleofTheTimes2024Caminada was a poor lad made good!! I think growing up in poverty helped him to have an empathy and rapport with the poor, so that he could build contacts and gather information!! He certainly WAS ahead of his times!!

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes Месяц назад +1

      @@nadiabrook7871 Well said! There are a few cases of poor lads breaking through the economic and social restrictions placed on them from birth - we applaud them all! Jack whicher of Scotland Yard fame was another one.

    • @nadiabrook7871
      @nadiabrook7871 Месяц назад +1

      @@newsofthetimes Was he?! Wow!! FASCINATING!!

  • @brendaholliday6866
    @brendaholliday6866 Месяц назад +3

    I really enjoyed this story about police official, Jerome Caminada. I've never heard of him before and I really appreciated the crime features that your channel shared that he solved over the years. I remember hearing that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle based his fictional character Sherlock Holmes on a real police detective years ago. Great investigation, presentation, backstory, illustrations, and photos, too. Take care 🦋

    • @ChronicleofTheTimes2024
      @ChronicleofTheTimes2024  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much - really glad you liked it! There is some confusion with many referring to Dr Belll as the inspiration for Sherlock - Dr Bell was the nspiration for Watson! We are certain Caminada was the inspiration for Sherlock. Mnay thanks for your support!🙏

    • @billbarnes8666
      @billbarnes8666 11 дней назад +2

      @@ChronicleofTheTimes2024 I think you'll find that it's generally accepted by Sherlockians that Bell was the inspiration for Holmes. On 4 May 1892 Doyle wrote in a letter to Bell the following:
      "It is most certainly to you that I owe Sherlock Holmes, and though in the stories I have the advantage of being able to place him in all sorts of dramatic positions I do not think that his analytical work is in the least an exaggeration of some effects which I have seen you produce in the out patient ward."

    • @ChronicleofTheTimes2024
      @ChronicleofTheTimes2024  11 дней назад

      @@billbarnes8666 Ah! We politely demur! We are aware of that story. We believe Bell to be the inspiration for Watson who, with Hollywood versions, has been relegated to the stupid sidekick. In reality, in the stories, he was an important part of the team. As for Doyle - if you look into his writings, you can see he was a master of illusion! He would almost never give away the truth, but rather, partial truths, with obtuse references and misdirects. if you state the magic, you give the game away. 😁😉 We do know that like Dickens, he absolutely created his storylines and charachters from true history and crime stories. But, like Dicken, he did it brilliantly. 🙌Caminada ended his later years, very sadly, in disgrace. We are certain, when talking about his beloved hero (whio he grew to hate in the end, but realised how ciommercially important he was), we are certain he would not refer to a now disgraced detective - it would have potentially damaged sales! We think that is why he opted for Dr bell - which, if you look into his background, actually fits quite nicely with Watson. 😉

    • @billbarnes8666
      @billbarnes8666 11 дней назад +1

      @@ChronicleofTheTimes2024 Yes, it seems we will politely disagree. I understand that Caminada rose to prominence in the mid 1880's and retired from the police force in 1899 to become a private detective, amongst other things. Doyle wrote his first SH story in 1886, so it's possible that he used some of Caminada's methods, etc for Holmes. But we're talking about Doyle's "inspiration" for his Holmes character, and his letter to Bell in 1892 (presumably long before Caminada fell into the disgrace you mention) makes it quite clear that Bell was the inspiration.

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes 10 дней назад

      @@billbarnes8666 Yes, we still poliely disagree 😉The Inspiration, we think is still for the charachter of dr watson - Dr Bell did not have his own Moriarty like Caminada did. And, Doyle rarely gave a straight answer on anything 😉Although Caminada's techniques now do not seem so out of place, at the time, they were almost revolutionary. Interesting! Thank you for your thoughts on this!🙏