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I think Bad Gear episodes should be considered high art and they have to be stored in some digital museum for the future people. For Uli's sake, just look at the production level, wording, music, structure. This is how it's done, future kids! Florian raised the bar for everyone and i hope other people will follow suit.
It never ceases to amaze me how you manage to get to grips (and deep-dive) with a different bit of hi-tech gear every week... and not only that, but put together some great jams and a whole lot of video editing. How do you find the time! 🙂 Another good one.
I concur 100%. I'd love a second video a week with him running through how he learned each new tool. I felt him (and Bo Beats) on the SP404ii clip, some learning curves are steeper. Props, such great tunes Florian. Just call it Florian Mode.
The Polyend Play spent almost its entire life cycle in my favorite retailer's wishlist. I jumped at the Plus, which is now patiently awaiting its unboxing
Got a Synthstrom Deluge 4 years ago, and recently updated to the OLED UI. When I see this, I know the investment in learning the Deluge workflow ( I also used an overlay for about a year) was worth it. Thanks for this Florian, you have affirmed that I made the right decision. Great video, I turn in on every Friday. You never disappoint. A+ :)
Please don't end your gear-reviewing career, bro. You are proving every week that it's not the gear that makes the music, but the mind behind it. Congratulations on your channel and happy 2024 !
As a Tracker owner, jealous of all those glorious encoders. The performance menu goes a long way, but just doing a filter sweep on the fly should be a lot simpler.
Another great video. The intro is well-written - terse and pithy. "Music technology is a cruel and shallow money trench. A long plastic hallway where thieves and maniacs run free and good people die like dogs. There’s also a negative side." Brilliant!
I bet that if Polyend was more predatory and released the Play+ with another name and without the option to upgrade, saying it's a new version instead of a revised version, nobody would've batted an eye. I mean, just take a look at TE: people complained, but they were also happy because the old OP-1 was going to become cheaper lol In any case, I understand the frustration the OG owners might've felt, but the whole toxic debacle was unnecessary. On another note, great video! Loved the last track.
Didn't the Play + come out a year later? That's probably got a lot to do with it. Also, people dunked on TE hard with the OP1 field, lol. That price was a piss take to almost everybody
@@vangoghsseveredear Yeah, around 1 year later, I think.That's why I believe if it had another name and no upgrade path, people wouldn't even care, and would probably be happy about the price drop on the normal Play and not worry about resale value, like the OP1-Field did with the original OP-1.
I love all the dawless setups that “want to break free” but then sound 10x better when processed a bit inside a daw :-) Jokes aside, Florian i feel the Erica Synths Db 01 and Lxr 02 coming on your channel. Call it basic instinct
I have the DB-01 and I am disappointed. The sound isn't bad, the controls are a bit worse. But the MIDI implementation is practically non-existent. You get clock in, note on, note off, mod wheel hard-coded to filter cutoff, and pitch bend. That's it! It could have been a MIDI or modular powerhouse if even some of the synthesis functionality was exposed. But it isn't. So yeah. Do it!
Strolling into the tiger's cage with aplomb, rattlingly ; new year put on notice. He don't care, bout yr world. the DAW-y eyed last jam was impressive- it's the little touches in the stereo field, the clever harmonic weaving; and you do this every week. its not just the sprint, it's the endurance. Happy New Year!
Hard to believe you haven't covered the Roland Sonic Cell, but that's my request for this week! Thank you Mr. Pilz, as always, for the great music and awesome sense of humor.
Had the OG, upgraded and don’t regret it but also understand the disappointment it has caused. I immediately clicked with the Play and its interface/workflow so to have the upgraded power and synths was tremendously exciting for me. Having fewer boxes that actually inspire and excite is my New Gear’s Resolution.
You named your project "SUBSCRIBE” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you truly are a genius. Very timely, I just got the Play+ a few days ago. Bought the "vintage Play" as soon as it was available, so def triggered by this launch, but have to say I'm extremely glad I upgraded. Luckily found someone selling it for dirt cheap, so my "upgrade" cost was significantly less than $400 💪 new synths are nice, can't wait till performance mode can be used on them/midi, this thing will be 💯 then
This is one of the first pieces of gear you've done where I have some experience. I had the original Play. I found it very frustrating to work with- same issues with real time record, double click buttons, channel assignments didn't seem to stick... my main issue was that there is no poly per midi track meaning you have to chew up tracks if you want to record your own chord voicings. I got a Deluge new with OLED but I did it primarily because I saw how generous they were to upgrade people's existing machines for a very low price and the open sourced firmware. I do miss the velocity sensitive pads on both but the Deluge is a complete joy to work with because it behaves... graphic sample editing on the matrix- yes. Regarding Ben... I just wonder what the hell is wrong with people. He had an opinion. Disagree and walk away. Threatening the man? WTF?
On your hands it sounds amazing. The first jam you made, called House solo, i would called Berlin Techno Solo. It was top notch 👌🏻❤ Nice chapter of one of the biggest hyped gear of the last year. I was sad cause the Ben Jordan video reaction, he is a nice guy. He should not give a f**k about what others think or say.
I'd be outside the gates of Schloss Pilz with my flaming torch and pitchfork, but the pitchfork caught fire on the bus. As did the bus. As someone who lived with the joys of 96ppqn vertical scroll sequencing on the Atari, courtesy of Dr.T's KCS, the thrill of 3 column greyscale GUIs and neolithic workflows has long since left the building.
I’ve owned the OG Play and now the Play +. Now that it’s more of a standalone unit and don’t have to hook it up to external MIDI gear, i can take it anywhere and jam more easily. I love this thing.
Great review! I’ve been loving mine. I don’t think I’ve found a workflow in either hardware or DAWs that is this fast and intuitive to whip up tracks and sequences. Agree with you on some of the live performance limitations though
Same. Price difference on top of the original near me, I may as well should have good a deluge from the start. Huge slap in the face considering I loved the hell out of polyend products prior (they really should have kept making the seq, love that thing)
As an early adopter, my beef with the “upgrade” was that IMHO play needed several other improvements more than it needed synth engines or stereo. Ideally the replacement to a new more powerful CPU should have unlocked significant changes that could have been more of a game changer. It very much feels like the release of “the thing we meant to make all along” at the expense (literally) of early adopters. Yes there is butthurt. But that said, I was hoping for a completely different set of improvements. As a user I wanted to see significantly expanded per track, per step, FX routing and layering options. Multiple different FX beyond the global reverb and delay flavors. True LFOs including rate and shape with routing options to control multiple per track or per step parameters like filters, panning, and FX. Midi delays or trigger stutter to allow for some performance capability on the Midi lanes as well as the sample based audio side. Synth engines while a cool addition comes at the expense of the Midi tracks. If you were adding a beefy chip would it have been possible to have 3 pages of 8 tracks? Samples, internal synths, and 8 external midi tracks? Its a very cool groove box, but it still has limitations that could have been addressed if you were planning a chip upgrade. My biggest concern now is that there will never be an OS update to the original play because subsequent OS updates to play+ might be incompatible with the original chip. We didn’t really need stereo samples as much as you needed more and better stereo effects to color the mono samples.
The Panda smashing the kit on the desk then floor started me in a fit of laughter. I Just been going through this myself with my new OX 1 sequencer through desktop Hydrasynth for two days trying to eliminate synth by synth, cabld by cable. I got there in the end and came to bed for a fresh start tomorrow only to see the Panda doing exactly what I wanted to do 😅
@@AudioPilz Yes and you would make it sing like Angels from above as you do with everything you turn your hand to. But for some of us making sweet music doesn't always equate to being a geeky nerdy Techy type and we struggle by horribly on new Gear / kit
You managed to make those who suffered through buying the first version feel a littl ebetter about it if they upgraded. the sounds you got out if the plus are genius.
I got (and sold) the OG Play and I must say it's a super fun and immediate machine... I bought it as a "cheap Deluge", which it isn't... This new Plus it's better, although the best feature I think it has is that you can get the original WAY cheaper, as it's a really fun machine... Anyway, if you are looking for a portable DAW in a box, it's the Deluge with community firmware, IMHO. BTW Florian, you're videos are fucking awesome. As suggestion, I think the Perkons should get also the BG treatment 🙂
At first I thought the meme at 1:42 was Nino de Angelo! 🥹🤣 Your voice was a little deeper than usual this time. This week's suggestion is the supercute 1010 Music Lemondrop Nanobox Granular Synthesis Module.
Fantastic show. Interesting take on stereotypical joke about Poland as default wasteland for the gear:) we should be swimming in used vintage gear wonderland in a bit😂 happy new year. ❤
Funny thing is actually that there are people from Poland coming to the Netherlands buying vintage stereo equipment in bulk second hand and selling it for more in Poland. Because Poland isn't a rich country, there isn't many of the vintage higher end gear floating around since the new market for it back in the day was very small. Interesting economical dynamic.
Ah, I feel for Benn, I may be wrong but I think it was just opinion rather than paid-for promotion, but either way the backlash was still OTT. People are free to make their minds up and shouldn't really be hurling abuse like that at reviewers unless they are actually lying about the abilities or quality of a product.
Epic tunes once again bruv! I love your taste, and greatly appreciate your ability to dip into genres and nail them with brand new gear! Maybe throw in some more UKG like the first audio example? Plenty of the groove boxes do it nicely. Go old school and do the OG green red and blue electribes?
Could you make an episode about the new Yamaha seqtrak whenever you get your hands on one? Would be amazing to see your point of view and creations on it! Thank you!
I would love to see the Tracker Plus model. I have the original Tracker, and I really love the UI because it's super-intuitive and it's faster to work with than a lot of other grooveboxes. It would be cool to see all these synths from the Play+ on the Tracker. And also a bit more polyphony (or at least ability to play chords on one track) would be nice.
@@AudioPilz I think that it does have an upgraded CPU, but it doesn't have the features I mentioned, unfortunately. I also think that the original Tracker has better controls (after experiencing the MC101's UI I don't trust small gear)
I bought the Polyend Play about a couple months before the Plus came out. Although I would have liked the additional features, I mostly bought the Play for its ability to easily randomize and mash up drum beats. I do wish that the Play Plus had been announced before its release, though. Kudos for the shots from Lifeforce in the last jam. I just recently saw that movie for the first time, and regret that it took me 35+ years to see it. :)
Great video! I think it'd be super cool if you checked out and did a review of the Dirty Wave M8 Tracker? I recently just got one and im absolutely loving the work flow!
Yep, bought mine 6 months earlier to learn that i can upgrade for 400. So in the end, i have to pay more than a person who pay for the whole new product. I'll stick for the mono version. I'm using it in MIDI mode anyway.
@@kirkanos771knowing that you have to send them the Play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you are 1000% right !!!!! This is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING for early adopters, what a way to thank them from POLYEND !!!!!!…………… I swear you it drives me crazy and I even don’t have one so I imagine you should be mad afffffffffffffff…….. They shouldn’t ask to send back the original one and do a very good offer on the PLUS, that’s all !!!!!
I think if Poly end released the Tracker Plus first and waited on the play plus there wouldn't have been any controversy. It's a shame really because the tracker+ looks like a really good upgrade and Polyend is a creative company and yet hardly anyone is covering the new tracker.
Another great video and jam 👏 So if I got you right, sound design is menu-divey, and as far as I know there's no LFOs? Not replacing my Digitakt, then!
that first jam is amazing 🙀😳😳😳...also great to see the Rocket in the second jam...was it used in the finale as well? nobody covers controversy like you...the Walter Cronkite of synth news 😁👍🏻
Another great instalment! The Play, and now the Play+ seem pretty damn good. I want one; it would make an excellent centerpiece, sequencing both its internal sounds and external gear. I can see why its release rubbed some people the wrong way, but it's kinda cool that owners of the original can upgrade for a cheaper price. It's also a shame that certain people's comments made Benn pull the plug on his gear reviews. That wasn't cool.
If you want it as a sequencer, forget the + version as the internal synth engines use the external 8 tracks. I got the non + version and strictly use it as a sequencer, it's the most powerful sequencer I have used and by far the cheapest for what it can do.
I wrote off Polyend after the Dreadbox/Polyend Medusa launch. I won't endorse a company who disrespects their consumer base. This is another slap in the face.
Last year definitely had its fair share of controversies to feed this most hated audio tools channel. Maybe do one on Waves, Akai MPC X SE, OP 1-Field, etc.
Nice work as always. Kraftwerk actually did a show in my city a couple of days ago. Edit: Also, I was quite saddened at the treatment Benn Jordan copped. I also enjoyed his reviews.
Thought about buying both of them, a few times. Just haven't wanted one bad enough to give in. At this point, maybe in a few years, when they will be on the market used for a few hundred, instead. For me, that makes more sense.
My 18yo daughter just attended a 4 day festival and she said that children of the night, what music they make if they try to squeeze lofi downbeat, Berlin school and pseudo orchestral shenanigans into one bad gear finale was a feature genre on one of the main stages, nice
Polyend gear is SOO close to being good, but just doesn't cross the line. I have a tracker, and it has most of what I need, but is missing the last 10%. Now I'm stuck using an MPC because it does it all
As the early promo said, the Play is so much fun you'll want two. So now your second Play has whacking good extra features, costs the same, and has the same workflow! And the original Play is still very useful. Or if you want a second original Play, the price just dropped a bunch. Win Win!
I looked at the OG play but was put off by the lack of polyphony, sample editing and the tracker suited my needs better, was thinking of pairing with a hapax or oxi, but since I couldn’t find a cheap Yamaha RS7000 with an expansion board (f’ing hen’s teeth) settled on a cheap RM1x with the tracker mini. You still haven’t done the DX200, difficult to find now at a reasonable price. Also 90s and 00s rack multi-effects units need a roasting, not having much joy in finding Alesis/Lexicon/Boss/Roland/Digitech/Yamaha 2nd hand units which is a surprise.
Very Fair but as a Plus owner I remain disapointed enough to be thinking eBay. I wanted to use the excellent sequencing for melodic/ambient. But the factory samples are all precussive and even the piano pack is rough. Can I buy in wav file samples? Maybe but it is not proving easy enough so far. Such a shame Polyend did not offer some decent stereo sampled basic orchestral instruments. It is not quite too late Polyend........
you can get free samples all over the internet just google search, and paid ones too but start with free so you don't have to pay for anything ideally.
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Still waiting for you to do that Casio voice synth!
Must say, you're not just a RUclipsr, you're an exceptional musician. What a talent!
Thank you so much!!!
Yeah dude yo music is really super good! Do you ever release anything?@@AudioPilz
I think Bad Gear episodes should be considered high art and they have to be stored in some digital museum for the future people. For Uli's sake, just look at the production level, wording, music, structure. This is how it's done, future kids! Florian raised the bar for everyone and i hope other people will follow suit.
Thank you so much!!!
that's why he's got Patreon so you can literally download everything 😂
Episodes need to be saved on an internet archive like waybackmachine, for the future bad gear enthusiasts!
you should post your 9 min sets of that bass music you make, show the "kids" how it's done, or not.
🤣
@@helisoma nah bro i meant some congress library stuff not some random ppl hard drive 🙂
It never ceases to amaze me how you manage to get to grips (and deep-dive) with a different bit of hi-tech gear every week... and not only that, but put together some great jams and a whole lot of video editing. How do you find the time! 🙂 Another good one.
Thank you so much!!! I just try to stay organized!!!
I concur 100%. I'd love a second video a week with him running through how he learned each new tool. I felt him (and Bo Beats) on the SP404ii clip, some learning curves are steeper. Props, such great tunes Florian. Just call it Florian Mode.
@@AudioPilz Organization and espresso.
@@PiriakaTrackwreckerand a third video of "bad gear-tube" where he mercilessly roasts other video makers.
The Polyend Play spent almost its entire life cycle in my favorite retailer's wishlist. I jumped at the Plus, which is now patiently awaiting its unboxing
Nice!!!
Got a Synthstrom Deluge 4 years ago, and recently updated to the OLED UI. When I see this, I know the investment in learning the Deluge workflow ( I also used an overlay for about a year) was worth it. Thanks for this Florian, you have affirmed that I made the right decision. Great video, I turn in on every Friday. You never disappoint. A+ :)
Thank you so much!!!
exactly.
The Deluge kicks ass.
Please don't end your gear-reviewing career, bro. You are proving every week that it's not the gear that makes the music, but the mind behind it. Congratulations on your channel and happy 2024 !
Thank you so much!!! No worries!!!
As a Tracker owner, jealous of all those glorious encoders. The performance menu goes a long way, but just doing a filter sweep on the fly should be a lot simpler.
I feel the same way!!!
A tracker with encoders and without a grid would be ideal
I would pay a hefty sum for a full version of that ending jam, fantastic work as always!
My dreams have been achieved through the power of patreon
Thank you!!! Shameless plug: full tracks can be found on my Patreon!!!
I am slowly learning my Play+. A fascinating device. I am impressed how quickly you are proficient with it.
It's a different workflow, but once you have your head around it, it's extremely powerful and rewarding.
Thank you!!! Once you have put 10K hours into learning gear;)
Another great video. The intro is well-written - terse and pithy. "Music technology is a cruel and shallow money trench. A long plastic hallway where thieves and maniacs run free and good people die like dogs. There’s also a negative side." Brilliant!
Thank you!!!
I cant even wrap my head around how much work goes into these 😮💨 you make it look easy ♥️
Thank you so much!!!
I bet that if Polyend was more predatory and released the Play+ with another name and without the option to upgrade, saying it's a new version instead of a revised version, nobody would've batted an eye. I mean, just take a look at TE: people complained, but they were also happy because the old OP-1 was going to become cheaper lol
In any case, I understand the frustration the OG owners might've felt, but the whole toxic debacle was unnecessary.
On another note, great video! Loved the last track.
Thank you!!!
Didn't the Play + come out a year later? That's probably got a lot to do with it.
Also, people dunked on TE hard with the OP1 field, lol. That price was a piss take to almost everybody
@@vangoghsseveredear Yeah, around 1 year later, I think.That's why I believe if it had another name and no upgrade path, people wouldn't even care, and would probably be happy about the price drop on the normal Play and not worry about resale value, like the OP1-Field did with the original OP-1.
I love all the dawless setups that “want to break free” but then sound 10x better when processed a bit inside a daw :-)
Jokes aside, Florian i feel the Erica Synths Db 01 and Lxr 02 coming on your channel. Call it basic instinct
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
I have the DB-01 and I am disappointed. The sound isn't bad, the controls are a bit worse. But the MIDI implementation is practically non-existent. You get clock in, note on, note off, mod wheel hard-coded to filter cutoff, and pitch bend. That's it! It could have been a MIDI or modular powerhouse if even some of the synthesis functionality was exposed. But it isn't.
So yeah. Do it!
these ones are good gear, db-01 sounds dope
@@stussyg8567 i don`t think „bad gear“ is meant 100% seriously and literally on the channel
@@saardean4481 of course, I'm just a fanboy of my synth, peace)
Strolling into the tiger's cage with aplomb, rattlingly ; new year put on notice. He don't care, bout yr world. the DAW-y eyed last jam was impressive- it's the little touches in the stereo field, the clever harmonic weaving; and you do this every week. its not just the sprint, it's the endurance. Happy New Year!
Thank you so much!!! Have a great 2024!!!
i joined your patreon because of that final synth showcase. holy hell i need more of that track!
Thank you so much!!!
hahaha!!! I saw you sneak that deluge image in there!
THAT is the desert island groovebox.
I really have to give that one a try!
The house jam particularly tasty. These bad gear vids actually kill my gas they are so good.
Thank you so much!!!
I just bought a first gen Play brand new for under 500. It works great as the sequencing centerpiece for my dateless setup
Nice!!!
Hard to believe you haven't covered the Roland Sonic Cell, but that's my request for this week! Thank you Mr. Pilz, as always, for the great music and awesome sense of humor.
Thank you, great suggestion!!!
Had the OG, upgraded and don’t regret it but also understand the disappointment it has caused. I immediately clicked with the Play and its interface/workflow so to have the upgraded power and synths was tremendously exciting for me. Having fewer boxes that actually inspire and excite is my New Gear’s Resolution.
I guess, I will find the OG now for cheap on the Second Hand market ;-)
Nice!!!
With all the quirks, I'm still very interested in it.
Great review and productions of it.
Thank you!!!
Love this Finale Jam. Every groove box seems to groove well under your tutelage 😊
Thank you so much!!!
You named your project "SUBSCRIBE” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you truly are a genius. Very timely, I just got the Play+ a few days ago. Bought the "vintage Play" as soon as it was available, so def triggered by this launch, but have to say I'm extremely glad I upgraded. Luckily found someone selling it for dirt cheap, so my "upgrade" cost was significantly less than $400 💪 new synths are nice, can't wait till performance mode can be used on them/midi, this thing will be 💯 then
Happy to hear that!!! Thanks!!!
He does that a lot, and also has other funny names for patches and stuff if you look carefully.
@@iagmusicandflying You get more entertainment for your money on this channel.😃
You totally nailed it this week! That dub techno track was the bomb!! ♥️
Thank you so much!!!
I love the K.O.II meme in this video :) I can't wait for the bad gear episode on it!
I really have to give that one a try!
musically, one of the best recent episodes, as always keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!!!
This is one of the first pieces of gear you've done where I have some experience. I had the original Play. I found it very frustrating to work with- same issues with real time record, double click buttons, channel assignments didn't seem to stick... my main issue was that there is no poly per midi track meaning you have to chew up tracks if you want to record your own chord voicings. I got a Deluge new with OLED but I did it primarily because I saw how generous they were to upgrade people's existing machines for a very low price and the open sourced firmware. I do miss the velocity sensitive pads on both but the Deluge is a complete joy to work with because it behaves... graphic sample editing on the matrix- yes.
Regarding Ben... I just wonder what the hell is wrong with people. He had an opinion. Disagree and walk away. Threatening the man? WTF?
Great heads-up, thanks!!!
Pro Tip: Random nobodies on the internet typing "threats" is not that threating.
@@pacman_pol_pl_polska it extended beyond the internet for Ben.
@@Eigenstates. Living in commiefornia must be hell.
This man really working overtime. Thanks for the video my numba one Österreicher! 💪🏾
Schen Daung!!!
Love the hunter S Thompson quote. Marvellous ❤❤❤
Thank you!!!
from the mems to the little details top notch episode as always love the bass in jam 2 .
Thank you so much!!!
So many great bad gear episodes but this is really great! Thanks for the fun and info regarding this box
Thank you so much!!!
You never cease to amaze me with your Skill. Happy New Year.
Thank you so much!!!
On your hands it sounds amazing. The first jam you made, called House solo, i would called Berlin Techno Solo. It was top notch 👌🏻❤
Nice chapter of one of the biggest hyped gear of the last year.
I was sad cause the Ben Jordan video reaction, he is a nice guy. He should not give a f**k about what others think or say.
Agreed!!!
First episode of Bad Gear of the year weeee :D Happy new year mr Florian with more memes and more jams :)
Happy 2024!!!
I'd be outside the gates of Schloss Pilz with my flaming torch and pitchfork, but the pitchfork caught fire on the bus. As did the bus.
As someone who lived with the joys of 96ppqn vertical scroll sequencing on the Atari, courtesy of Dr.T's KCS, the thrill of 3 column greyscale GUIs and neolithic workflows has long since left the building.
My moat is huge;)
@@AudioPilz It's not the size that matters; it's the number of hungry alligators that live in it.
I’ve owned the OG Play and now the Play +. Now that it’s more of a standalone unit and don’t have to hook it up to external MIDI gear, i can take it anywhere and jam more easily. I love this thing.
Nice!!!
Did you sell/buy new or go through the pricey replacement program out of curiosity?
@@Daphoid the upgrade. I was actively looking for a multi timbral synth to buy so for me it made sense.
Still checking all the boxes. Well done, as usual. Watched and liked as usual. Keep it up man.
Thank you so much!!!
Great review! I’ve been loving mine. I don’t think I’ve found a workflow in either hardware or DAWs that is this fast and intuitive to whip up tracks and sequences. Agree with you on some of the live performance limitations though
Thank you!!!
The OG Play is still a great little drum machine and I love mine. I just thought the $400 pricetag to update it was a slap in the face.
You and 99.9% of everyone else thought so as well.
Same. Price difference on top of the original near me, I may as well should have good a deluge from the start. Huge slap in the face considering I loved the hell out of polyend products prior (they really should have kept making the seq, love that thing)
I feel you!!!
Oh wow!!! It's thanks to You I've learned that Polyend is based in Poland :o We have a Gear Producer here!!! Wooohooo!!!
As an early adopter, my beef with the “upgrade” was that IMHO play needed several other improvements more than it needed synth engines or stereo. Ideally the replacement to a new more powerful CPU should have unlocked significant changes that could have been more of a game changer. It very much feels like the release of “the thing we meant to make all along” at the expense (literally) of early adopters. Yes there is butthurt. But that said, I was hoping for a completely different set of improvements. As a user I wanted to see significantly expanded per track, per step, FX routing and layering options. Multiple different FX beyond the global reverb and delay flavors. True LFOs including rate and shape with routing options to control multiple per track or per step parameters like filters, panning, and FX. Midi delays or trigger stutter to allow for some performance capability on the Midi lanes as well as the sample based audio side.
Synth engines while a cool addition comes at the expense of the Midi tracks. If you were adding a beefy chip would it have been possible to have 3 pages of 8 tracks? Samples, internal synths, and 8 external midi tracks? Its a very cool groove box, but it still has limitations that could have been addressed if you were planning a chip upgrade. My biggest concern now is that there will never be an OS update to the original play because subsequent OS updates to play+ might be incompatible with the original chip.
We didn’t really need stereo samples as much as you needed more and better stereo effects to color the mono samples.
Great input!!!
Holy cow...this was actually the most balanced review yet!!
Thank you so much!!!
The Panda smashing the kit on the desk then floor started me in a fit of laughter.
I Just been going through this myself with my new OX 1 sequencer through desktop Hydrasynth for two days trying to eliminate synth by synth, cabld by cable. I got there in the end and came to bed for a fresh start tomorrow only to see the Panda doing exactly what I wanted to do 😅
There's a longer version of the Panda if you do a search round the web for it :)
@@Vim-WolfThanks Vim-Wolf 😊
I’d love to give the OX a go!!!
@@AudioPilz Yes and you would make it sing like Angels from above as you do with everything you turn your hand to. But for some of us making sweet music doesn't always equate to being a geeky nerdy Techy type and we struggle by horribly on new Gear / kit
Jam 1 (House Solo) chef’s kiss ❤
Is there a full version?
Thank you!!! Shameless plug: there's an extended version on my Patreon❤️❤️❤️
God damm it, one day late for your new again briljant vid.
Really appreciate your work.
Thank you so much!!!
love the opening reference to the book"Kill you're friends" helter-skelter of a read for anyone in the music trade
Thank you!!!
You managed to make those who suffered through buying the first version feel a littl ebetter about it if they upgraded. the sounds you got out if the plus are genius.
Thank you!!!
10:00 Jeez Florian, that's a (very distant) blast from the past.... 😆
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Thanks
Thank you so much for the support!!!
You are very welcome Florian.
I got (and sold) the OG Play and I must say it's a super fun and immediate machine... I bought it as a "cheap Deluge", which it isn't... This new Plus it's better, although the best feature I think it has is that you can get the original WAY cheaper, as it's a really fun machine... Anyway, if you are looking for a portable DAW in a box, it's the Deluge with community firmware, IMHO.
BTW Florian, you're videos are fucking awesome. As suggestion, I think the Perkons should get also the BG treatment 🙂
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
haha! a Bela Lugosi reference! great vid...id never own this thing but nice to see
The man. The legend.
@@AudioPilz "Bela Lugosi's Dead" 🎶
At first I thought the meme at 1:42 was Nino de Angelo! 🥹🤣 Your voice was a little deeper than usual this time. This week's suggestion is the supercute 1010 Music Lemondrop Nanobox Granular Synthesis Module.
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
Fantastic show. Interesting take on stereotypical joke about Poland as default wasteland for the gear:) we should be swimming in used vintage gear wonderland in a bit😂 happy new year. ❤
Thank you!!! Roland on Poland;)
Funny thing is actually that there are people from Poland coming to the Netherlands buying vintage stereo equipment in bulk second hand and selling it for more in Poland. Because Poland isn't a rich country, there isn't many of the vintage higher end gear floating around since the new market for it back in the day was very small. Interesting economical dynamic.
I really dig the background visuals in Jam 1 from 7:15 . Would you mind sharing a link?
Just search for AI-generated brutalist buildings
Ah, I feel for Benn, I may be wrong but I think it was just opinion rather than paid-for promotion, but either way the backlash was still OTT. People are free to make their minds up and shouldn't really be hurling abuse like that at reviewers unless they are actually lying about the abilities or quality of a product.
Completely out of proportion, I agree!!!
I think the meme at 4:30 is about King Crimson's Frame by Frame
I thought it was either Meshugga or Gojira...
Epic tunes once again bruv! I love your taste, and greatly appreciate your ability to dip into genres and nail them with brand new gear! Maybe throw in some more UKG like the first audio example? Plenty of the groove boxes do it nicely. Go old school and do the OG green red and blue electribes?
Thank you so much!!! Love OG Tribes!!!
Happy Friday Florian!
Have a nice weekend!!!
Your DnB is getting better :)
Thank you so much!!!
Could you make an episode about the new Yamaha seqtrak whenever you get your hands on one? Would be amazing to see your point of view and creations on it! Thank you!
Great idea, thanks!!!
I would love to see the Tracker Plus model. I have the original Tracker, and I really love the UI because it's super-intuitive and it's faster to work with than a lot of other grooveboxes. It would be cool to see all these synths from the Play+ on the Tracker. And also a bit more polyphony (or at least ability to play chords on one track) would be nice.
Aisjam had a cool video about how to use the original tracker as a synth engine recently
Doesn't the Mini have an upgraded CPU?
@@AudioPilz I think that it does have an upgraded CPU, but it doesn't have the features I mentioned, unfortunately. I also think that the original Tracker has better controls (after experiencing the MC101's UI I don't trust small gear)
I bought the Polyend Play about a couple months before the Plus came out. Although I would have liked the additional features, I mostly bought the Play for its ability to easily randomize and mash up drum beats. I do wish that the Play Plus had been announced before its release, though. Kudos for the shots from Lifeforce in the last jam. I just recently saw that movie for the first time, and regret that it took me 35+ years to see it. :)
Thanks!!! Tobe Hooper FTW!!!
Or sell it to a newb and buy the plus after
Life Force is good Movie. Stuff happens. In NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. 🙂
@@luminousbrilliance1711 That movie is just CONSTANT escalation from the beginning to end :)
Great video as always. A challenge to you, I would love to see you review a stylophone x-1 while somehow making some amazing jams out with it.
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
Put it through a bunch of FX boxes.
damn that waldorf bass sounded massive! :D
Love the Rocket!!!
Also famous for their salad.
Great video! I think it'd be super cool if you checked out and did a review of the Dirty Wave M8 Tracker? I recently just got one and im absolutely loving the work flow!
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
Ah yes, the infamous PAY PLUS to the owners of the OG 😂
When you know, you know...
Yep, bought mine 6 months earlier to learn that i can upgrade for 400. So in the end, i have to pay more than a person who pay for the whole new product.
I'll stick for the mono version. I'm using it in MIDI mode anyway.
@@kirkanos771 Or sell it to a newb and buy the plus after.
@@kirkanos771knowing that you have to send them the Play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you are 1000% right !!!!! This is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING for early adopters, what a way to thank them from POLYEND !!!!!!…………… I swear you it drives me crazy and I even don’t have one so I imagine you should be mad afffffffffffffff……..
They shouldn’t ask to send back the original one and do a very good offer on the PLUS, that’s all !!!!!
I think if Poly end released the Tracker Plus first and waited on the play plus there wouldn't have been any controversy. It's a shame really because the tracker+ looks like a really good upgrade and Polyend is a creative company and yet hardly anyone is covering the new tracker.
They move in mysterious ways
Now you mention it, why on earth did they release the Play+ before the Tracker+ !?!?
Another great video and jam 👏 So if I got you right, sound design is menu-divey, and as far as I know there's no LFOs? Not replacing my Digitakt, then!
Thank you!!! Menu-divey like a Roland;)
Love my Play +. love this video, love the tears of those that remain frosty in the pants that Polyend hurt them. I love it all.
Thank you so much!!!
0:44 I bought one of these on release day - that joke HURT !!
I feel you!!!
I dunno why Polyend refuses to put a chorus send in their gooveboxes. As a chorus junkie its kind of a deal breaker.
I LOVE chorus too!!!
that first jam is amazing 🙀😳😳😳...also great to see the Rocket in the second jam...was it used in the finale as well? nobody covers controversy like you...the Walter Cronkite of synth news 😁👍🏻
Thank you so much!!! Finale was all Play Plus
Another great instalment! The Play, and now the Play+ seem pretty damn good. I want one; it would make an excellent centerpiece, sequencing both its internal sounds and external gear. I can see why its release rubbed some people the wrong way, but it's kinda cool that owners of the original can upgrade for a cheaper price. It's also a shame that certain people's comments made Benn pull the plug on his gear reviews. That wasn't cool.
If you want it as a sequencer, forget the + version as the internal synth engines use the external 8 tracks.
I got the non + version and strictly use it as a sequencer, it's the most powerful sequencer I have used and by far the cheapest for what it can do.
Thank you!!!
@@DankePlaceGood to know!
Could you do an episode on a synth FX device like the zoom ms-70cdr, or maybe the mod dwarf (which can also be used as a synth)?
There is actually an episode about hacking the MS-70
holy crap that is precisely me @09:47 only I have 2 more hobbies, surfing and saltwater reef aquariums...
Sounds expensive;)
@@AudioPilz
not quite as expensive as vintage analog synths, but absolutely no resale value.
That finale was pretty dope not gonna lie 🎉
Thank you!!!
I wrote off Polyend after the Dreadbox/Polyend Medusa launch. I won't endorse a company who disrespects their consumer base. This is another slap in the face.
The Tracker Mini is really nice tho!!!
Last year definitely had its fair share of controversies to feed this most hated audio tools channel. Maybe do one on Waves, Akai MPC X SE, OP 1-Field, etc.
Great ideas, thanks!!!
Nice work as always. Kraftwerk actually did a show in my city a couple of days ago.
Edit: Also, I was quite saddened at the treatment Benn Jordan copped. I also enjoyed his reviews.
Thanks!!!
Thought about buying both of them, a few times. Just haven't wanted one bad enough to give in. At this point, maybe in a few years, when they will be on the market used for a few hundred, instead. For me, that makes more sense.
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The DnB set up is perfect.
Thank you so much!!!
What about a Novation Circuit? Greetings! And a better year 😊
Love the circuit - already did an ep about it
On the subject of trackers, you might consider an episode on the m8.
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
My 18yo daughter just attended a 4 day festival and she said that children of the night, what music they make if they try to squeeze lofi downbeat, Berlin school and pseudo orchestral shenanigans into one bad gear finale was a feature genre on one of the main stages, nice
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Are still offered anywhere brand new with the updates?
The developer should have eaten the upgrade costs in order to preserve goodwill.
It got sold out from polyend for now, but if you look around it's available at other sellers.
They sold quite well…
Polyend gear is SOO close to being good, but just doesn't cross the line. I have a tracker, and it has most of what I need, but is missing the last 10%. Now I'm stuck using an MPC because it does it all
I honestly still prefer a Tracker to an MPC but that's more of a religious question;)
I wish the MPC Live II (love mine) had a 16 button XOX sequencer on the bottom instead of speakers. That would have been perfect.
yeah, kinda wish Polyend and 1010music would merge, feels like their devices are 90% there, but they each miss different 10%.
Whats interesting about polyend is that theyre building hardware to do what OpenMPT and a 2000s era laptop can do
Isn't that more or less every company building grooveboxes?
As the early promo said, the Play is so much fun you'll want two. So now your second Play has whacking good extra features, costs the same, and has the same workflow! And the original Play is still very useful. Or if you want a second original Play, the price just dropped a bunch. Win Win!
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I looked at the OG play but was put off by the lack of polyphony, sample editing and the tracker suited my needs better, was thinking of pairing with a hapax or oxi, but since I couldn’t find a cheap Yamaha RS7000 with an expansion board (f’ing hen’s teeth) settled on a cheap RM1x with the tracker mini.
You still haven’t done the DX200, difficult to find now at a reasonable price. Also 90s and 00s rack multi-effects units need a roasting, not having much joy in finding Alesis/Lexicon/Boss/Roland/Digitech/Yamaha 2nd hand units which is a surprise.
I'd LOVE to have a DX200 but as you said, prices are insane ATM
very very good music you made ❤
Thank you!!!
Welcome to Bad Gear - the show that I have to adjust the settings to half-speed in order to catch all the memes
In Florian's meme accent "Your spacebar will prove to be your biggest friend!"
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Very Fair but as a Plus owner I remain disapointed enough to be thinking eBay. I wanted to use the excellent sequencing for melodic/ambient. But the factory samples are all precussive and even the piano pack is rough. Can I buy in wav file samples? Maybe but it is not proving easy enough so far. Such a shame Polyend did not offer some decent stereo sampled basic orchestral instruments. It is not quite too late Polyend........
Maybe just snatch a few samples off freesound.org?
Hey, thanks. Will explore this. Cheers.
you can get free samples all over the internet just google search, and paid ones too but start with free so you don't have to pay for anything ideally.
"Pitch" 😂
That machine sounds amazingly good, by the way, don't know what it is but there is a sort of a hi-fi quality to it...
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My office has one of these on the wall in reception for controlling the fire alarm system
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What's the movie at 9:07?
Lifeforce, your jaw will drop when you see the b00bies
Lifeforce!!!
@@AudioPilz Thanks bro
Have an original Play and love it. I will eventually get the Plus and will have less regrets than trading in a car for a new one.
Nice!!!
I wonder how long they will accept trade-ins.
Can’t wait to buy the ++ next year
You mean in the next 3 months.
@@DankePlace 😂😂😂😂
It’s math!!!
Feels like it's still not finished.. the live recording bugs is why I passed on it in the first place.
That’s a true limitation
I hope you can loan a Chompi off of someone that thing is a SynthTube Bad Gear hall of famer for sure.
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
The $29 google ad version, 🙏
Hainbach did a review on it.