The "HEALTHY" Foods You SHOULD NOT Eat To Lose Weight & Live Longer | Tim Spector
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Professor Tim Spector rarely eats bananas these days. He treats a glass of fruit juice as he would a can of cola. And, despite having to watch his blood pressure, he no longer restricts the salt he adds to food. Controversial views?
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When I take my sick dog to the vet, almost always the first thing he asks is, "what are you feeding him?". My GP rarely asks that question when I am sick and go to see her. It's odd.
What an insightful observation.
I am a Vet Tech, and Human medicine is scary compared to how proactive Vet Med is!
True but, when our dog came to a shortened end of life, the vet said ‘a lot of dogs and cats die of kidney disease’. I thought why don’t you question that. I imagine a lot of it may be the unnatural food we feed to our pets, often sold by vets.
Why aren't people making this connection?
So in Vet Med, we check blood work at 7 years. It's a senior work up, and it finds liver, kidney and thyroid problems. It's imperative that we take a complete history every time the pet is in our care. We talk about diet first and foremost.
The average person just needs to cut out ultra processed foods with unsavory ingredients. If they do that, that’s 90% of the battle won.
Companies sell disease and advertise it as food. Classic scam
100%
And sugars. Especially 'natural' ones.
@@mst1740 Yes. People may think they can eat all the fruit they want because those are natural sugars but that's a mistake. Fruit juices are even worse even when they're 100% fruit juice.
Exactly. The thing about fruit is besides the point
It always baffle me that in the UK the food in hospital, is the worse, when it should be the one place that should offer the best nutrients for patients to recover.
I think it’s because you’re not treated as a patient but as a ‘customer’ for big Pharma…
Well people don’t make money!
I agree. Imagine if you were a vegetarian or vegan. It's a disaster
"Bookmarks" would be really helpful on these videos.
Thank you for the content.
You are so correct that america is the exporter of ultra processed foods. I am american and in the mid 90s I spent a semester in Dublin. I had always been 10 to 20 lbs overweight at that time. I was not only conditioned to eat larger, I also ate processed foods at every meal. I was shocked when I landed in Ireland and realized I was MUCH larger than everyone else. I literally did not know one european person (who was my peer) to be overweight. I quickly realized why this was my new reality. I ate junk and I ate more food than both women and men…and I was not an exception to the average american person at the time. I quickly adopted the appetite and food of my friends in Ireland and came home 22 lbs lighter. Seriously. It was life changing. But now I am sad to see that other countries have adopted the american food habits. *edit: I want to also add that fat free processed/packaged foods were all the rage in america during this time and I was always hungry. When I lived and traveled in Ireland, the UK, and parts of europe (always eating the local food and in a local way) I was always satisfied and never snacked. I was at peace and didn’t think about food unless it was mealtime. I believe the difference was that the food I ate in europe was minimally processed, real food.
Things have changed. We (Ireland) now have one of the highest obesity rates in the EU and things are getting worse. It's depressing.
What do they eat in Ireland?
@@underated17 a lot of takeaways 👀
@@noramuldowney2721 Here in Canada we call it takeout :D
I live in Thailand and they have imported the standard American diet and obesity is now rife among Thai citizens. I came here 20 years ago and the only overweight people I saw were tourists 😏
5:00 if you are an elite athlete, in the middle of a straight sets battle at Wimbledon, eat a banana! Tim doesn't NOT eat bananas because they're not 'healthy' in general, he commented at the very start that FOR HIM, they give him a glucose spike, which he's trying to avoid. Elite athletes vs someone wanting a snack are two very different beasts. The simple fact is that many people eat far too much carbs/sugar at any given moment that their body is not needing more than a fraction of to keep going. The excess is the issue.
Eat 20 every day if you want
Yeah but the problem is not whole food like fruit so much as it is processed foods bought at the store and fast food outlets.
The liver NEEDS GLUCOSE for working!!! Eat fresh fruits!
He said it gave him a moderate spike. Did not even say for how long. Having a spike does not mean something is wrong. Whay is he afraid about. Getting obese, diabetic or insulin resistant for having moderate spike by eating a banana a day....
Having a huge spike that lasts long and eating continuously similar food with those impacts on you is the problem. So I really do not understand his reasoning here. Even working out will give a spike. Should we stop working out.... His reasons did not make sense, or it was not well explained herr in my opinion
Cyclists often carry bananas as a quick source of glucose.
I most definitely agree with Tim's comments on weight loss being a by-product of eating good quality food and finding out what foods your body needs for optimum health. For the past year I have been attending monthly appointments with a Naturopath/Chiropractor. By changing my diet, introducing supplements and observing how my body was changing over this time, I wholeheartedly think this discussion is vital to each individual's understanding of how to maintain a healthy lifestyle. I have not felt as well as I do now for at least 10 years or more, have more energy and lost over 3 stone in weight. I am nearly 73 years of age, so getting older does not mean more health issues to deal with.
Yes the discussion is vital. But why on earth start picking on fruit? Blueberries, raspberries, blackberries have antioxidents that we desperately need. Bananas have potassium and help bulk up your stool. We should have the added sugar and processed food discussion ad nauseum and when people (including me) cut most of this crap out of our diets that will solve most of our problems. But discussions like this about fruit will only embolden people to further justify their junk food habit!!
@@lisaa8795 YES!
@@lisaa8795 You ask why start picking on fruit? Because it causes problems. People have allergies, sugar spikes, and may not be aware that they don't need to eat the fruit at all. It has nothing useful in it. I eat 100% meat and there is absolutely nothing missed in terms of nutrition. You eat less, you have better muscles, better bones, better teeth, no need to brush, etc. The fruit is a trick by the plant to get you to spread its babies (the seeds) somewhere. It is not the plant trying to nourish you. The plant wants you to die so it can eat you. Be smart, feed your plants to your animals and eat the animals instead.
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I always say, everyone's biochemistry is different. Bananas don't affect me at all, others do, the human body is amazing
Agreed, keto, carnivore or other..listening to one's body for health is key.
@@lisabeeke7162 is carnivore just meat and fat?
@@bobadams7654 yes, it's a horrendous diet, insane charlatans promote it.
Give it some time and enough glucose spikes. Eventually a banana will start spiking your blood sugar levels.
@@lisabeeke7162:
Quit your dumb bullshit. Anyone employing that type of rhetoric have zero clue about biology and are just seeking to justify their own behavior.
I agree again with Tim about exercise not reducing weight. I have run 9 ultra marathons in the last decade. After a big training run the body needs to repair. In my experience the body stays hungry until it satisfies its need for body repairing nutrients. If your diet is high in calories but low in repair nutrients you will overeat to get what you need. Quantity doesn’t equal quality.
Thank you for sharing. “Question “can you tell me what kind of body repairing nutrients do you need or eat to satisfy the body after 10 miles run or a good work out on weight training? Thanks you.
@@jjblack2830 In my experience, protein, antioxidants and mineral dense foods (any exercise where you sweat you loose minerals like iron etc) Leafy greens and berries are very good ( high ORAC score) and good high protein foods like beans and nuts. I’m a vegan so I don’t eat eggs, but eggs are an excellent recovery food. Leafy greens also help your blood vessels recover because of the nitric oxide. Another hint, eat a bowl of steamed leafy greens with a topping of vitamin b rich nutritional yeast an hour before an event, it helps your performance markedly.
@@jimatsydney Thank you, I like that idea. I do workout at the gym and I do sweat a lot . Thanks again 🤙🏽
@@jjblack2830 Just another thing, I have heard that it’s best to avoid saturated fats too as much as possible post run/ workout because they stiffen the blood vessels and don’t assist recovery. I know having a big fatty juicy steak after a 50 km bush training run is just what one’s feels like (as I once frequently did), it is best to stick with very lean meats or plant proteins.
@@jimatsydney wow 🤩 I didn’t know that. And i very much love steak 🥩. Thanks Jim , it is very helpful talking to someone who knows and experiences the facts of food groups. Thanks again 🤙🏽
In India there are Banana and Bananas. My city has a population of 130,000 and I can buy atleat eight varieties of Bananas here. Standardization in the developed economies has reduced choices in the local foods.
I'm one of those people that The Dr refer to who just cannot bare exercise. I Listener to a pod cast on tiny habits, by BJ Fog, this influence me to get two kettlebells which I use while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil in the morning, I added to this routine running up and down my stairway ( on the fourth floor block of flats) twice first thing before I brush my teeth. As I nearly 60 year old because it's just a small amount of exercise and dorable I've kept us going for a couple of years now including walking as much as I can. Both speakers made a lot of sense, find what works for you, get rid of the processed foods. Make tiny changes which gradually build up to bigger ones that can last longer into the future.
For those who know all basics as discussed by these two great teachers, one can browse quickly short new videos to learn more . It is for those who are short of time and reach another level of education experience. Good luck for all.
This excellent podcast is a metaphor of a very good meal from a French, Indian, mediterran, etc culture: you sit around a table, take your time to savour it, enjoy it with friends and give bits of answers instead of pre chewed ones, in order to build interest in the subject and empower the listener/eater to search and discover for himself. What better way to treat a subject about food! Thank you!
If you only ate the fruit in your country when it is in the summer season it would help you to put on weight for the winter.
Unfortunately now we can obtain fruit 365 days a year because we import those fruits when they are not in season.
Also tropical fruits have higher sugar content.. why ? Because they come from hotter more tropical regions where you get dehydrated quicker. So the sugar and water content in those fruits are higher. But are not needed in the colder climates.
Thank you for clarifying salt. I avoided salt for years and tried to be an active athlete. I started eating a whole food vegetable diet (to improve my performance). After reading about how South Korea has a very salt heavy diet but have the lowest death by heart disease of any country, I increased my salt intake and wow did my running performance improve. Also I have learnt that stomach acid is needed to properly digest food. We get most of the chloride in the HCL from salt. I am with you Tim, about taste, my daily bowls of steamed leafy greens taste fantastic with balsamic, nutritional yeast and a good big pinch of salt.
Don't forget fresh fruits!
I’ve had high BP for decades. It’s inherited. I never really cut out salt but only have it in cooked food, not added into my food. I actually like non-salted food. I’m originally from india and we use a variety of spices other than salt and heavily salted food actually HIDES the true taste of food as far as I’m concerned.
@@rafaelw8115 Japan has the longest lived people on earth and they too have a salt heavy diet. Explain that. It is true NaCl is linked to hypertension but it is how much salt you retain not how much you consume. If you don't have enough potassium or have renal disease etc your body may not be able to remove the excess. Please point me to the studies that show the RDI of 5000 mg of NaCl for normal people is toxic, instead of just talking off the top of your head.
@@rafaelw8115 With Japan and South Korea (both consume about 2x or 3x the recommended daily intake) it shows there is no correlation between heart disease and salt intake other wise South Korea would have a death rate per 100,000 greater than America. Instead It is about half that of America. There are other factors at play here too but this shows salt does not cause heart disease. I agree this amount of salt is not advisable but I asked you to show me a study showing that the RDI from most governments of 5000mg salt (which is equivalent to 2000mg sodium and 3000mg chloride) is toxic which was your initial claim. That is the reason the RDI is set at that amount. Salt is essential to life. Contrary to what many believe most of humanity has been and continues to be a coastal species. We just don't have good fossil records because after the last ice age the sea rose 180m and any coastal fossil records have been lost. We have always had ready access to salt and it was always traded inland. It is not toxic but essential to life at the right amount. We also have saline blood because, you guessed it, we evolved out of the sea. If you don't believe in evolution check the importance the bible puts on salt. The RDI is there for a reason
@@rafaelw8115If you firmly believe what you are saying, next time you are in hospital tell the staff not to put a saline drip into your arm. A saline drip contains 9000 mg of salt (NaCl) per liter. Tell the doctors that you know better than them. End of conversation.
I asked the doctor my husband saw after his first cancer op for malignant melanoma, to tell him he needed to eat healthily now. That doctor said, no he's fine let him eat whatever he wants! He had two different immunotherapy courses, they didn't work, he craved kebabs and junk, wouldn't let me cook because he couldn't eat it all, he was going to be on a drug trial but didn't make it sadly. I wish I could have got him to eat better.
Oh dear. Such a sad story. Hope ur doing as best u can xx
Sorry for your loss. I see that as medical neglect. But most doctors know next to nothing about proper nutrition. Also we're an ATM to the medical profession & pharmaceutical companies. It's in their interest to keep us sick & dependent.
@@lynnettemurphy8243 YES!
@@lynnettemurphy8243 here here
Your husband made his bed... and paid the price. If he wasn't prepared to listen he had no one else to blame. Selfish of him to leave you a widow.
I've learned so much from ZOE. I don't really have the money to join, but my BP is great, I've lost weight without trying, and I feel fantastic after watching countless videos like this. Cheers Rangan and Tim..
I have been devising my own calorie-counting diet since the beginning of July last year (2022) and have now lost 41 kg, getting my bmi down from 45 to 30. It seems to be working for me! I have halted if not reversed my pre-diabetes. I never did eat junk food all, but have the complications of thyroid and cortisol problems plus sleep disorders. I'll be easing off the calorie deficit a little, but still planning my food for each day, from when I reach a weight of 65 kg, so another 15 kg to go.
You maybe should join the Zoe experiment. I believe this will give you the best chance to achieve a healthy lifestyle and weight for the rest of your life. It helps educate and train you to consider all aspects of your health. I would rate the experience as transformational.
@@charlespaynter8987 I tried to join Zoe, but it is "not available" in the country where I live. And as I said, what I'm doing is working fine for me - including planning my nutrients and exercise for each day. I've now lost 50 kg and reversed the pre-diabetes.
Congratulations on this stellar work, and success for your health and happiness. I hope you also benefit from holistic attention to quality of foods, so you are not just lighter, but brighter, and resilient. Well done!
@@ClaireCelticMystic Thank you so much for your very positive comment! I just spent 30 mins on a reply, which disappeared. If I can get it back, it will appear here…
- It was along the lines of, it's a really tough job, especially after menopause (I am 60 now), but the attention to fine detail is worth it, however onerous it may be!
And besides, it makes you feel like you really ARE caring about yourself, so any achievement is heightened as a result, and you can pat yourself on the back.
I'm seeing SO much stuff about "Don't count calories" and "Calories are a Lie" - most of this is clickbait and BS, to my mind. Maybe this stuff is aimed at people who are not willing to take charge of their own life, and want easy answers supplied by others? Or, who just don't believe this is even possible??
Or maybe it just works for me because I like to analyse (= I never stopped asking "why") and have attention for fine detail? - Discipline is NOT an obsession of mine, but I can do it when it gives good results. In other things, I can be as sloppy and as spontaneous as anybody else, if not more so. BUT, if I get to half the weight I was, by the middle of next year - and about 250% more agile, strong and mobile than I was - I'll be well pleasedand it will have been a job well done.
I'd always worked hard physically, until I got an office job (just to pay the bills) aged 52, the tasks grew exponentially and, coupled with bullying from what had been friends, this made me very ill indeed over about 8 years. In the end, I weighed over 120 kg and could not get from my desk to the bathroom without holding on to the furniture for support.
Then I was told I would get full-blown diabetes (just like my Dad & his mother had before me) if I didn't lose weight.
I want to repeat here, that I always ate healthy food - no junk food, never take-outs, and especially no sugar (I don't even like anything sweet! I make my own mayonnaise & cut it with yogurt because the store-bought stuff is too sweet for me) - I got to that extreme weight just by eating too much of all the good stuff, having too much stress and no portion-control.
The medical professionals didn't give me any instructions or help, so I just did it myself - finding out how many calories per 100 grams the various foods had, making a spreadsheet for it & weighing and recording EVERYTHING and logging it for the day - it works best when I do a plan for 3 days or even a week or more in advance, cooking larger amounts and portioning them up for the fridge or freezer; that way, I know beforehand what I'm going to eat that day and there is no question, no options open that could lead to uncontrolled over-consumption, even if I AM feeling a bit over-emotional on any given day.
I don't track my "macros" in detail, but I have no problem with this as I have a certain knowledge of the subject since I went vegetarian aged 14 - about a hundred years ago! - all I do now is try to aim for general balance, maximal diversity in foods consumed, many vegetables of many colours each day, and a bit less of the carbs at night.
There are literally millions of videos on youtube about how to do this kind of meal prep, so you can surely find some inspiration for cooking foods that you really love. But you DO have to COOK, for yourself!!
Ready-meals and restaurant food are NOT going to do it for you, I'm afraid. Or not without getting you into some dire nutrient-deficits.
This is, quite possibly, about the only thing in life that is easier to do if you live alone - because you don't have to cook things you shouldn't eat, or see others consuming tasty things you can't have…
My heartfelt good wishes and encouragement go out to everybody out there who struggles with this!
I hope this is useful to somebody, and thank you for your patience and attention!
@@ClaireCelticMystic - one more thing: I live in Austria, which has about the best quality of foodstuffs you can get in Europe - very strict animal welfare laws, no feed-lots; every cut of meat has the place of birth, rearing & slaughter of the animal on it, plus the name, telephone number and address of the people who produced it. (So does every packet of eggs).
Supermarkets tend to have mostly regional, seasonal vegetables and fruits - people do NOT want to buy stuff flown in from half the world away, so: pumpkins are available only in the fall, berries only in the summer. Not everything grows here, and there is no coast, so some things, such as fresh saltwater fish, come in from Italy: 2 hours drive away. Or, sometimes they're just not available, but nobody complains much about that.
Quite often, organic products are no more expensive, if not actually cheaper, than the factory-farmed stuff brought in from abroad (there is almost no factory-farming in Austria).
This is because Austria had a small, local and traditional agricultural production before it joined the EU in 1991 - and by then, their "backward", traditionally organic farming practises had turned into a bonus and a great marketing tool… They tried to outlaw GM foods in the early 2000's, but the EU would not let them! So now, they produce their own non-GM corn and soy beans, as well as other stuff, and that's printed on the package. People would not buy the GM stuff. (They also don't have nuclear power plants; my electricity comes from wind & water sources).
My local small-town supermarket has a big shelf dedicated to local producers, from within a 20 mile radius - meats, cheeses, pasta, condiments and more special items. They make great gifts for family who live far away…
It was a pleasure to listen to both of you. I didn't know DrTim Spector. I love his humility. I've been listening to some US doctors, like Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard and other wonderful researchers and I always felt it was the last word in nutrition but now, with Dr Spector, I see things in a different light, not at all dogmatic. I love the concept of 'holistic'. Thanks!
Until I bought his Food for Life book last week I thought shop bought sauerkraut was great for my health. Turns out it has been pasteurized. I’m now trying making my own fermented foods.
sauerkraut is so easy to make at home and much tastier
With following the way how Tim suggests, I have managed to reduce my medicines by three quarters. This is amazing, thank you very much. I'm so grateful. And living life to the full.
I like these two doctors.
First time here,and I am enjoying their honesty very much.
In moderation all foods are a fair game.
Not all bodies are created equal, each reacts differently to what gets inside.
I don't think these 2 doctors would agree with you. Not all foods are acceptable to the human body, notably those with chemical and artificial ingredients that our digestive system cannot deal with.
Keto, for me, is unsustainable as a lifestyle diet. It is, however, an incredible therapeutic intervention. Anyone who hasn't done a month-long stint of keto should research and try it. It will change your relationship with food. After that month, for me, the results were profound. Suddenly, I became hyperaware of how overly sweet processed foods are, and switching to a low-carb whole food diet was easy, logical and intuitive.
Yep exactly. Even a week of keto for me will reset carb addiction and make it much easier to control my eating, as long as I don't go back to eating the bad stuff.
I am a believer that we can eat anything in moderation and as long as we eat mostly healthy whole foods and not processed foods we should remain healthy and active into old age. I am very very worried by these regimented eating plans which I believe take us away from our natural instincts to eat the foods that our body needs, also my concern is this will lead to even more eating disorders in the future.
Everything in moderation! That's all anyone needs to know, as long as it's not processed food! People get so strung up about what they eat, it's sad. Eating well is one of life's pleasures and constant anxiety about what we eat just stresses us. The other thing to remember, apart from eating good quality food, is to reduce the portion size of carbs in particular. A smaller plate is one trick for people who tend to overload on rice, potatoes, pasta etc. Lastly, stop eating before you feel full! and don't eat a main meal after 7 pm. These are changes anyone can make to allow you to enjoy a very varied diet and keep your weight under control. In the UK, I grew up with the old saying "a little of what you fancy does you good" and I believe it's so true, that and as varied a diet as possible. This is so important for children particularly. Too many parents delay feeding their kids real food. If you wean them on processed baby food, of course they will hate anything that's not mush. But that's another story it would be good to hear Tim Spector's opinion on as it's so fundamental to good health.
You are a magnificent person and an amazing father!
Thank you for your work!
The world is better because of you. You are the type of being the future's need.
Fascinating discussion! Last February I went for my annual check up at my doctor's surgery. My results were not great and I had really high cholesterol and blood pressure. The practitioner automatically told me my only option was going on a course of statins. In the months running up to this meeting I'd been increasingly drawn to the vegan lifestyle and I decided at that point that I would reject the statins. My practitioner was quite taken aback. Three months later my cholesterol had dropped to normal levels and my blood pressure had dropped substantially!
Oh my goodness, you both have made my day. As regards bananas and the so called Tropicana juice I have similarly experiences. I have also radically changed my diet and lifestyle. I am now living a healthy life no big pharma drugs or analgesia. I am 50+, no wrinkles. Looking gorgeous and feeling fantastic. I wish all governments will put more money into health and nutrition educating and give money to families to buy healthy food. Thank you both for sharing
What are you eating
People should stop drinking fruit juice and start eating the fruit instead - lots of essential fiber for good gut health.
What’s ur phone number?😉
@@lisaa8795 👍👍👍
I can totally vouch for low refined carbs curbing constant seeking for food. Went off plan one weekend due to family celebrations and constant hunger returned. Took a couple of days to get back to equilibrium
Love this and all of your videos, Dr. RC! This is such awesome information. You guys are great! ❤️
I love bananas! I eat mine with 100% roasted peanut butter and I find that they give me a good amount of energy as a snack. I think it’s down to the individual as he has suggested anyway.
I eat green bananas for their starch, rather than ripe bananas full of sugars. I have no intact digestive system, and limited to a mix of ten organic, unprocessed foods. I find this guy’s info outdated and, if not outdated, obvious.
Eating with peanut butter is the best thing todo! The fat and protein in the peanut butter helps to balance the sugar and would give a lower sugar spike so much more balanced!
@@midgleygreen4231 Apparently peanuts are bad. They are not even a nut. Can cause IBS
Ripe bananas are better than green bananas!
@@dolinaj1 "I find this guy’s info outdated and, if not outdated, obvious."
Exactly why? Because he says that bananas personally give him blood sugar spikes?" Have you actually read his books and done the Zoe course with the in arm blood glucose monitor? (I have)
Just eat what makes you physically & mentally feel good...not what he eats.
for those who don't know, the riper the banana the higher its nutritional value and it is also rich in fiber, I never got cosntipated after eating it.
I've never used salt when cooking vegetables and they don't taste 'disgusting' - I suppose it depends what you're used to.
Yes, a bit OTT
For sure, there are very good reasons to eliminate certain foods from your diet when you're allergic to them or have blood sugar problems. I think it's also important to know that there's no such thing as "perfect health." Many of us tone and sculpt and starve ourselves trying to look a certain way and its possible to become obsessive and perfectionistic about it. Yes, he did say that bananas may be fine for many just not for him so I get that he wasn't making a blanket statement. Btw, the sugar in the bananas won't hit your bloodstream as fast if you eat something with fat with them like peanut butter. Fat slows the absorption of sugar into the bloodstream. I was threshold Diabetic so I'm careful about how much fruit I eat and I had to quit eating cookies, pie, cake, bread, etc., as a matter of course. A person needs to take what the doctors tell you and what YOU know about your body and find the balance that's right for you.
Agreed, this guy has orthodrexia
You are spot on 👌👌👌
Excellent statement. Doctors really have no business at all commenting on what type of food the human body is agreeing most with. That is. If their comment is based solely in Allopathic Medicine, with the reading list that most Medicine Studies have in their core structure. If they have aquired deep knowledge privately, good for them. Additionally. The food pyramid is not based in science, or health - but in economics. If you feel you don't know what that means or implies, try harder. And lastly. Pontificating whether or not fruit should be considered healthy is not exactly a very plausible or brave subject in todays plane crash of human health and longevity, due to a corporate hijacked and steered, toxic, poisonous, corrupt and dysfunctional planet - where human health means nothing. Now there's a subject. In my own flawed opinion, of course.
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You should not take what doctors tell you. You should study your own body and figure it out yourself. Use a CGM, eat a banana, see what happens to you. Add other foods with the banana and see what the CGM tells you. Do you crave banana's? Why? Good to figure out what is perfect for you.
I don't eat any fruit. Zero. No vegetables either. Two problems for me. Allergies to nuts and fruits and also sugar spikes. 100% meat works fine and I don't crave anything. The only reason I eat the meat is because I waste away if I don't eat, obviously. It's not even a hunger thing. The hunger seems to disappear when you eat meat. You can go days without eating and only feel like eating if you are becoming too cold or light headed, or lethargic. Removes the need to brush teach as well, so that means even fewer chemical products fluoride, etc being put into the environment. Also removes the concern about GMO. Cows eat grass, so no need to worry about plants that are genetically engineered to handle pesticides. Therefore you don't need any pesticides in your diet like you get with fruits and veggies. Stay safe guys. Use your own experiences. Forget the doctors unless you get run over by a car, for example.
I'm thrilled with the individualized approach that Zoe is going, it sure worked for me. I've been a WFPBDNO advocate for years, but there was a part of me that always had a pause, even that seems reductionist to me. Then i realized my urine was smelling wrong (i'm a critical care nurse, i notice things like that). Got a glucose meter from Amazon, and my fasting BG showed me as diabetic. i went to the doctor and confirmed it with an A1c. i was eating what i thought was an evidence based healthy WFBPD. i was eating a cup of home made whole grain granola and blueberries every morning and In April '24 my A1c was 8.2%. In July i paired the Zoe test results with a Signos CGM and after three weeks my a1c is 5.5%. Now i'm eating avocado and mushrooms, onions, peppers and spinach with eggs, and blackberries (90 Zoe score for me) instead of blueberries (50 Zoe score for me) , or nuts and blackberries. Eating a lot of plants still, but eating them based on my individual micro biome scores.
Everything I need is in the first 3 aisles of the Supermarket. Veg, Salad, Fruit, Dairy and Meats. I find the deeper I go into a Store the more processed the food becomes.
I can eat 5 bananas in a day and I don't have any issues and I am very active. Everybody needs are different.
you get insulin spikes cause it contains sugar, insulin is the biggest k1ller for all modern diesaese for the last 80 years. Ditch all carbs, sugar, bread, and eat a proper human diet, beef, eggs, healthy fats, some low carb veggies like cauliflower, broccoli etc. Do some fasting on top on that and you might thank me in 20+ years
Wow, I can’t even eat one without my sugar spiking. Have you tested your sugar levels?😊
I avoid processed foods,, and fast foods. I cook my own food at home from fresh unprocessed ingredients. I use onions, garlic, peppers, curry, ginger, bay leaves, fresh spices to add flavor. Avoiding processed prepackage foods will cut your salt intake. I was going hard on no salt and still prefer less salt but I agree, some fresh cooked foods do need a little salt. I use Himalayan pink salt.
Bananas are a great substitute when baking. One banana equals one cup of sugar.
One avocado equals one stick of butter. Great alternatives.
One banana 30 gr of sugar !! Not 200 gr.😂
@@MaybeMe...862 you are mistaken!???????????
@@karengrice2303 ok explain to me.
@@MaybeMe...862 explain what? Your comment made no sense.
Something I have always been aware of is that, you are what you eat. It really is that simple.
The only thing I am shocked at is that it took Dr Tim quite some years to realise that good food is as effective as pharmaceuticals, especially as the etymology of pharmaceutical is, to poison.
Highlights how stupid so called Dr's are.
The sad thing is that not having created a profit centre in “personalising” diet solutions, he will be restricted from other realisations in future.
If banana was not that good for Tim it doesn’t mean it’s not good for you; I will eat my bananas till I can’t eat anymore
They really are carb heavy tho. I guess if you're not worried about that it doesn't matter.
has a ton of sugar... look up orac values.
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Not sure about the tons but yes I am not overly concerned about the sugar in the banana as much as I am concerned about simple sugar in the process food.
He does say they ‘are not good for HIM’ the Zoe test scores will vary for each person, you won’t know until you test your blood sugar spikes.
The point is we not burning the calories we consuming.
Another great interview. Tim as always so easy to listen to without preaching. A quick word on bananas. There are different varieties..in Spain where I live, the bananas from the Canary Islands are smaller and sweeter than the imported varieties.
Bananas are healthy. Canarian bananas are very good!
Fantastic interview again! Two great well informed true healers helping people transform their health with information everyone needs to hear.
My naturopath aunt told me to drink only juice from 2 oranges that I have squeezed myself, with the pulp added back in AND diluted with water 1:3 juice to water. Delish & doesn’t create spikes
I tell every young person going into medicine, please take food seriously as part of your studies. Even if your medical school gives you one week on the subject, that does not mean you must ignore the importance of great healthy food!
Meanwhile the politicians are getting rid of farmers 😂
Where are they putting them
One more excellent video by my two favorite professionals. Thanks again!
"There is only one type of banana in the world" Correction, there is only one type in the West. In Southeast Asia there are loads of different types.
It is not only food is medicine but also sleep, movements, training brain to focus aware mindful. All healthy life style variables are medicine and some people senior in life span young in health span uses healthy life style to control old age and no drugs.
I will still keep eating my healthy bananas and other fruits I like like berries oranges lemons etc I don't get hung up on good v bad as the media tell you eggs cheese coffee are bad for you I just don't buy the crap
That's all you need to do. sometimes these episodes overcomplicate things so much when it really is as simple as eat more unprocessed food, eat less processed food.
Didn't he say that here?
But bananas are not healthy for everyone. Coffee, by the way, is fine, in the Zoe scheme. Cheese and eggs in moderation. Good v bad is pretty personal, as Zoe has found.
This is one of the best Podcasts I have come across, really informative and very enlightening indeed. Tysm Dr. Chatterjee and Prof.Tim for this imperative and very interesting discussion. It was a delight to listen to.💯👍👍👌👌
Yep I spent years counting calories and couldn't lose weight. I saw a nutritionist for a gut issue, who told me to consume good quality organic cold pressed oils and fats, wholefoods and cut out sugar. I lost weight! I've now lost my sweet tooth, my blood sugar is more stable and I don't eat to lose weight now, I eat for health and nourishment. Like Dr Chatterjee says, you don't need to try and lose weight when you eat better, it's a natural side effect that happens without effort.
Btw Prof Tim Spector, I find green bananas are fine for BG, well for me anyway 🙂
+ I'd love to do the Zoe healing app but I simply couldn't function during the testing period where you have to consume the muffins, because my BG can so easily fluctuate and I feel terrible if it gets low. Is there another less aggressive technique your team could develop for obtaining the results you need for assessment in that criteria?
Does the Zoe app encourage you to eat a muffin?
@@davidr1431 no it doesn't . As far as I'm aware, you're only asked to eat sweet muffins during the testing stage to check your blood glucose reaction to them when wearing the continuous blood glucose monitor.
I've re-worded my original comment to make it clear the muffins are during the testing period not whilst following the app. Sorry for any confusion.
The muffins they send you also have fat and protein. They're not regular muffins.
Its amazing how much changes just from putting the brakes on carbs.
Even with sugar in the coffee, or drinking alcohol: strip out the surplus carbs (mash potato, processed bread, white rice, etc) and the weight just gets lifted...
Amazing...i didnt know, changed my life.
I have wanted to buy a CGM for some time, but its confusing when you read so many reviews of some being good, and other being useless. Does anyone have any personal experience of using them and could reccommend a decent 1?
At least he didn’t compare apples to oranges
What an enlightening conversation. Yes, it is a rabbit whole, but I love digging deeper. Thank you 🙏
I eat a banana with my home made muesli with lots of seeds and nuts and fruit compote (8-10 fruits) as sugar.
A helpful interview, though rather long. I'd love to understand more about my sugar spike reaction to different foods, but can't afford the Zoe programme sign-up -- I wish there was a better way to achieve this understanding.
You can get the CGM independently directly from the company.
You can actually get a regular blood glucose meter like diabetics use. Means a finger prick when you test, but is inexpensive. Eat the foods then test 30-60 mins later.
Bingo. I love doing the life/habit/food/water/exercise daily diary. Thankyou for the reminder that I am not "weird".
Fantastic podcast ,I'm only just becoming aware of this vast subject of ultra processed foods mainly because I've been I'll myself with irregular heartbeat and acid reflux, the GP has given me pills for the 2 complaints but they give their own side effects so this where I've thought its time to look for different answers and searched the internet for answers.
I have come across your RUclips channel by accident as I have followed The ZOE podcasts for awhile and I have just started reading Tim Spector's book, as I'm an older man of 64, the one thing
I am always saying to my partner is that this doesn't taste the same or that tastes different and obviously I'm talking about foods that I've eaten in my 20's, I realise now that I have a mountain to climb, I know most of the foods I eat are unhealthy, I'm gradually changing this and thanks for the podcast which was very good, there is a panorama program tonight on BBC 1 about ultra processed foods which will be interesting(05/06/2023) Thank you both for your time. Mark
I was once a salt junkie... I've now reduced my salt intake very considerably. Finally I've discovered the real flavour or the food I eat. I don't agree with Tim at all that vegetables and meat taste 'rubbish' without salt.
I add salt when cooking things from scratch that don’t have any ingredients that have salt. Today I’m making a pasta sauce that has anchovies in it, so no extra salt is needed. I was added salt-free for a couple of years and it is possible to still make really tasty food. But it does takes a lot of other spices and herbs to make up for the absence of that small pinch of salt. (That was about weight/bloating loss by reducing water retention, rather than BP concern.)
Re: poverty and UPF. I think it’s really important to remember that the type of poverty that impacts dietary choices isn’t purely economic. Time poverty probably has as much impact. People who are relatively time poor but have economic resources can use meal kit subscription services (like Hello Fresh, for example), but that’s out of reach for those with both types of poverty, or for those so time-poor that every waking minute is accounted for.
I’m so pleased to see genuine healthcare experts overcome the industry stigma about this form of public communication. It’s important to not abandon the social media space to snake oil merchants. And to emphasise that medical advice is not written in stone. Acknowledging that we’ve more, or better, data now about a subject shouldn’t be seen as damaging patient confidence. Worked in Pathology for decades and we’d introduce new, better tests and retire old ones with minimal issues. Good, honest communication with clients (doctors, and other healthcare professionals for us, patients for doctors) is key.
for the NHS Prof terrific breaking through salt resistance - sea salt + its minerals; Jesse Inchauspe The Gloucose Revolution; for Dr Rangan - Steven R. Gundry MD cardiologist latest book says the only rice recommended is white rice from India pressure cooked
Great discussion by 2 excellent speakers - thank you. My parents poor health also inspired my journey to learn all this!
Sadly the USA has fresh food deserts and you can’t buy fresh produce! Exercise does increase muscle which does increase metabolism and blood sugar correct?
So he’s an environmentalist so I’m highly sceptical about his concepts that mushrooms will save the planet and growing meat in labs is the way to go. I am unconvinced those things alone will save the planet but farming bashing is low hanging fruit (pardon the pun) with environmentalists. And hey he’s got another book coming out and an App to flog so those views will appeal to some.Totally get the whole thing about unprocessed foods and fermented foods being good for gut / general health, however big pharma and food companies have such a grip, there is a lot to unpick with education around nutrition. Oh and 20 mins talking about bananas....flippin eck!!
well said
He’s an environmentalist, so he can’t possibly be right about the environment. Really. If you are unconvinced do the research on how much farmland is used to raise beef compared with how much of the world food supply it actually supplies. By research, I don’t mean watch some you tube clips made by people being paid by the US farming lobby. If the farming sector gradually shifts to less meat focused human food production, it is not the farmers themselves that will suffer, in fact it could well be good as diversification would be involved. Fat cat billion dollar middle men may well suffer, but tough, it is a matter of change or we are doomed. Environmental collapse will also involve economic collapse, so change will happen either in a voluntary, controlled, planned way or imposed by climate change itself.
Exercise motivates me to eat healthy. I also feel better and seem to lose weight when I jog or walk.
Don’t sugar spikes matter more several hours after you eat the food? And could u combine the banana with a few nuts to slow absorption?
Yes! If you eat fruit with fibers (chia, flaxseed or nuts) the sugar spike will be much lower. So I always combine bananas with nuts.
Not hours, more like one hour
We have sweets on our tongue for a reason. I only eat natural raw carbs that taste good, mainly sweet fresh fruit, 8 to 10 lbs per day and my blood sugar level is perfect around 4 to 5. I avoid plant food that tastes bitter and sour and dry fruit and honey, insects, they are two sweet.
A banana is still superior to Oreos for my kiddos 😆 But I totally understand that a banana compared to an apple is different. Interesting. Thanks for the info!
Peanut Butter goes very well with both bananas 🍌 & apples! 🍎 😋 👌 Add a sprinkle of Cinnamon powder & it will also help control the blood sugar spike. 😉
Yep still better than any packaged snack you get from the store
Yes for me use green banana freeze it eat 1/3 or 1:4 cook it in soups. Use comprise . It is cheep , full of fibers and K potassium.
I adore these interviews…… Of course there is a ‘but’, so many interruptions for ads & then the ads to subscribe …….. not just once but multiple times. Yes I understand this is the way to give free content ……. But so many ?
I stopped adding salt to food in the 70s. I also stopped having sugar in drinks and practised a higher level of avoiding food with added salt and sugar. I don't need salt in food for flavour. I still have high blood pressure. My change in diet apparently has not helped me.
Same with me. Generally No added salt since the 70’etc.; still have high blood pressure.
What about trans fats, processed meats and red meat? Do you have those in your diet? And what are your cholesterol levels like?
@@powderandpaint14 Vegetarian. Cholesterol levels I don't know but doctor tests and is happy with the result.
Processed food to me is bread (granery whole meal) and pasteurised milk, cheese, butter .and Greek yogurt. I get through a small bottle of ground nut oil every six months or so.
@@geraldmcmullon2465 sounds like you're doing pretty well overall then. Unless you're overweight the blood pressure might just be genetics. Hope you're getting some sources of omega 3 though.
@@powderandpaint14 Yes I have a weight problem. Packed on 1kg per year for 50 years.
Love the content, love the info and the references. And the general reasonableness of the discussion. I also love to see two such lovely and intelligent men with Great Shoulders! Well done both.
I wish everyone knew how it feels to follow your wisdom; it is miraculous and simply the gift of reality, eating real food, that we can feel and shine vibrancy...vitality and joy. I have done and followed many ways of eating over the 5 decades I wanted to feel better, and I affirm that I am healthy and have found all these two doctors/healthy caring men say to be true; I walk daily, eat a CSA box of veg and fruits per week, with grass-fed AKA pastured chicken's eggs, meats, body ecology pre-soaked grains; buckwheat, millet, quinoa and amaranth, and regeneratively-pastured sheep mutton, lamb and cattle, venison and buffalo and bison meats. Be well friends, Aloha, Claire of Scotland's Outer Hebrides, Isle of Lewis.
Amazing podcast. Surely both your fathers are truly proud on the successful journey. The research on food and medicine was so informative. Double blessings from above on inspiring millions on this planet to lead healthy lives. Travelling to your birthplace Kolkata today. Thank you both once again
In medicine a young intelligent doctor asked why do you treat your patients by medication and you know wellness, optimal health as you grow in that organic culture? His reply was I will lose my job like my mum.
Dear Dr Chatterjee, it is scary when people you invite to your podcasts as experts end up making statements like “we have only one variety of bananas in the world” !
Yep…. Although I do not choose to eat bananas…. There are more than 1000 types of bananas in the world. Bad info. Depends on where you live in this big world.
@@Mommaslew True, but the point is you cannot buy any of these varieties in your local supermarket. They stock just one variety, and these are all genetically identical (clones).
@@jeremywright7006 unfortunately this is a bit like putting oneself at the centre of the world.
I live in India where at least 250 mn people have access to multiple varieties of bananas.
Here in Brazil there are countless types of Bananas available to the public, some if them not sweet at all, just starchy.
In Europe we really only have Cavendish....
I love the other bananas but they are very rarely to be found and very expensive...so do enjoy the many types of you have them!!
I love salt but I feel much better on low salt diet, dont miss the taste, I eat zero added salt, but do eat lots of pickles, olives which are relatively high in salt.
On salt. Thirty years? In the 1980s I was living in Japan. Especially there, the word was that too much salt was dangerous. I spent years avoiding salt during that time. When you avoid salt longer term, the question of lack of taste is bogus. One simply learns to appreciate the flavor of the food itself. That castes the flavor enhancement of salt in/on food as an addiction. One hears and reads that there is plenty of sodium occurring naturally in the various foods themselves.
Get blood sodium level tested. If ok, no need to add more salt. If low, add more salt. Easy. Exercise/sweating will increase sodium needs. It's a very important electrolyte.
"We don't consider food as something to spend a lot of money on."
It's a valid point. It often seems that most Brits view food simply as a source of energy to keep them going. I'm surprised to see wealthy individuals queuing at supermarkets with low-cost items in their carts, and observing city dwellers, dressed in expensive suits, rushing around with cheap, highly processed white flour sandwiches - often devouring them on the go.
It reminds me of a post from a frustrated mom with a Mediterranean background, complaining that when her child has playdates at their place, she prepares fresh and varied food for the kids. However, when her son visits his British friends, all they offer is crisps or biscuits 😂. One of the comments echoed what Tim said - they see food as mere fuel for survival, hence not putting much effort, time, and money into it, and therefore eating more ultra-process, quick, cheap food!
When I went to China I bought orange juice from a man on the street squeezing the oranges right at his little cart. It was great considering how hot it was and how much walking I was doing. I don’t think I could drink the off the shelf juice after that.
The last 10 min when Tim was talking about stem cell food for me negated everything he said about unprocessed wholefoods..very disappointed
100% agree. I looked further into Tim and he is also involved with the World Economic Forum and this is very much part of their vision for how we eat in the future.
He has a company so anything he says is towards his agendas.
Their Zoe research is based on some of the biggest samples ever available, so I don’t think you’re doing yourself any favours by discounting anything that is associated with Tim because he has a company. Zoe have put dozens of blogs and videos out there for free, and yes, they promote Zoe, but the info itself is invaluable.
To the point of exercise and weight, the problem often is we focus on weight as a singular goal rather than looking at the holistic point. An unhealthy person with low or normal weight often puts on weight on a scale when starting a serious fitness program. They bulk up and fill out. My goal is strong calves and a smooth uphill bike ride. My diet fuels my ride (and my overall health) but I'm not going to care if I lose or gain pounds
Strange for an uphill cyclist to not care about weight, but cool.
I love the theme here that context matters! I've lost 91 lbs so far in 2023 by doing 4 simple things: calorie counting, removing alcohol, uninstalling doordash, and walking 7,000 steps a day. I still eat way too much processed food, but beause I was previously sedentary, binge eating, drinking, and consuming a diet of 99% fast food, these changes have made a huge difference. But for someone with a different starting point, calorie counting may have little to no impact. So it's all about identifying next steps for your personal progress. And over all the actions I took, the bigger change was my mentality. Dont let your failures define you!
❤ God Bless You ❤
Been to the doctor many times in the past and not once have the asked about what you eat or diet??? Never and I pointed this out to my doctor last time..
Rather try and give me two prescriptions and come back in 3 months with an neck injury I already had 5 months prior!
I was clear this advice was not welcome and asked for the complaints form and procedure.
Less than 10 minutes later they called me and asked what I wanted..
Asked for an MRI on my neck and physio as it was crippling...
3 months later my recovery very reactive and 80% improvement.!!
The drugs they prescribed was naproxen and zapain which is a strong opiate!!
The latter is advised in the leaflet in side the box only to be taken I believe was 7-14 days yet I was given 3 months supply!!
If you are about to do a set of tennis, then a banana is brilliant. As long as you are fast burning the sugar you probably won't get a spike.
As a teenager in the 1970s I occasionally had a treat of freshly juiced oranges in a cafe. I would get the shakes and jitters afterwards. On taking a nutritional biomed course a few years ago I stopped having fruit juice, I now go for eggs and broccoli "omelette" at breakfast or a sugar free non fruit yogurt with some steamed apple/plums or a bacon buttie for a treat. I find cinnamon and spice teas seem to keep me calmly alert. I make my own packed lunches every day - loads of cabbage salad, pickled herring, beetroot, rocket, eggs, avocados, occasional cheese plus nuts and seeds. I drizzle olive oil over most foods. I find I function better with plenty of quality salt and need my fats and high quality meat a couple of times a week. White fish is my friend and cured salmon/herring but cooked oily fish makes me feel sick so I can't eat lots of oily fish. Had this problem since I was a child. My weekend diet is less good (am elsewhere) Room for improvement!
there are still thousands of varieties of banana in the world, US does no have local banana plantations so they import them from other countries, and Americans only import and eat a couple varieties... My country of origin alone have hundreds of varieties, the 10 most common after Cavendish are:
dominico-hartón, dominico, hartón, pelipita, morado, cachaco, popocho, pompo, maqueño, guineo and, trucho.
Each one of this have different flavor profiles and textures for example morado, is actually a redish-purple peel no a yellow one... there is actually a whole group of this red bananas around the world. Guineo does get imported into US, you will find it mostly in mexican stores, it also gets imported a lot into Europe. If you at your local store and see bananas that are smaller, like half the size of a banana, it is no as sweet but have more fruity flavor to it... chances are that is the guineo variety.
Thank you for sharing this information which is relevant and good for lay people.
33 minutes on blood sugars. Fruits
banana, salt .and blood pressure sodium/ potassium ratio.every one isunique,
I just wanted to say that I reduced my salt intake by using black pepper. Is that good or bad?
Also considering cost of living crisis when i cut down on upf my food bill has gone drastically down. So healthy food is still not as expensive, you can also opt for frozen anyway.
I saw Tim Spector and also Dr. William Li on Podcasts couple months ago. THANKS! I take care of my microbiome and it started to take care of me :o) I lost some weight and my skin and digestion are much better now.
Thailand has a rich food culture history. However, we always think that our food is lesser than Western food. I think this is the same in South Korea. The neocolonial mindset sadly makes people perceive anything Western as luxuries. We accept Western food so easily and gladly. It's seen as a treat and status. And even though Thai dishes are complex to make and full with fresh healthy ingredients and are cheaper, many still prefer to eat Western food. We see a bombardment of Western food in the market. I witness people's lifestyles change over the years and in turn our health withers. Cancer, diabetes, autoimmune were unheard of. Now they are prevalent. I'm sad to see my country heading that way and wonder what we can do to influence the change. Would love to get feedback on this from anyone who has some insight.
I love Thai food. And when I visit there totally avoid any western food. My concerns though when eating the fresh foods are the chemicals residue left on the crops. Many of which are banned in Europe because of the harm they cause.
@@paulhank7967 I cook myself at home these days. Organic food stuff is so cheap and affordable in Thailand, when compared to Europe. I have lived in both the UK and Germany. The affordability, abundance, freshness and its enhanced taste make healthy living so much more pleasant here. But again, most people are not like me. I'm not so afraid of the fresh cooked food on the streets. What is so difficult to avoid is the ultra processed food everywhere. Even when one cooks, turn around the container to check the ingredients and it's full of chemicals, exactly just like the Western countries. This is a new phenomenon!
The same in Brazil. Here we have a squad of local fruits and vegetables, but people eat oreos and McDonald's.
@@marcosl4374 Utterly sad
I don't `put salt on anything, I have learnt to enjoy the natural tastes of vegetables and I eat a lot of them. I disagree 1000% that vegetables taste rubbish without salt. I will put it another way, if you put salt on food you taste the salt! if you don't you don't. I am not trolling these guys as they make a lot of sense a lot of the time but not all of the time. By the way if you want to find out more about how salt is so ubiquitous in our food I suggest you read Sugar, Salt and Sat by Michael Moss. These are the Blessed Trinity of the God of processed foods. You cannot talk about one without the inference or complicity of the other. In short if you want a healthy body you must cut down on sugar, salt and fat.
Agreed 💯 I like unsalted food that is cooked well and uses spices creatively. It’s not necessary to “bury” the true taste of food with salt!
yes it is- Fruit is life- non gmo fresh especially freshly picked from trees is the best food for humans. There is nothing better than fresh fruit - also seeds spices herbs, mushrooms and roots. I've been doing fruit fasting and mostly fruit since 30 plus years and I've never even taken an aspirin. When you eat mainly fruit your skin shines and your colon its very happy. FRUIT is medicine, just like herbs are.
This video is full of lies!!!!
Organic fruit juice is médecine
Steve Jobs was a fruititarian. Nothing is good in excess.
Eating according to my Blood type, following the Book: Eat Right 4 Your Type, has made all the world of difference for me.
Only one type of banana? I just saw yellow , red , senorita , plaintain etc…
Bananas double their sugar content as they ripen. So the key is to buy them green and store them on the top shelf of the fridge Use them before they ripen fully. They still taste nice but just not so sweet. A fully ripened banana soon tastes too sweet.
All fruit is overrated. The problem is year-round availability, since we are triggered by an evolutionary mechanism to store fat for the winter, anything containing sugar is going to cause fat to be stored in the body. Fructose's first route is fatty liver. "Nature Wants us to be Fat" Richard Johnson. You can live perfectly well with zero fruit.
I wished you’d mentioned the difference in nutrition based on how ripe the bananas are.
Eat ripe fruits, also bananas!