Don't Be a Gray Man | Former Green Beret

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • In this video, I discuss the avoidance of standing out. It is not in your best interest to be a Gray Man as a new guy. This is your time to mess up and learn as much as possible. Take advantage of that time by stepping up to the plate as much as you can. Once your new guy time is up the real pressure will be on and you will be ready.
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  • @a_rock_or_something
    @a_rock_or_something 3 года назад +301

    The gray man is the exact opposite of the guy you see with a grunt style shirt, giant beard, and army tattoos that you can probably assume is obviously carrying a firearm open or concealed

    • @vince11harris
      @vince11harris 3 года назад +2

      😂😂

    • @voltaire5427
      @voltaire5427 3 года назад +46

      Carry your kit in a "guitar case" with Coexist, Sierra Club, and Bernie stickers. Shave the big beard into a trendy mustache. Trade the F250 in for a Prius. Pretty much ignore lifting and do yoga instead. Rave about feminism and your wife's boyfriend.
      Not a Grey Man, but a true chameleon.

    • @jdeuces22
      @jdeuces22 3 года назад +3

      @@voltaire5427 lmao I’m dead

    • @jaydavidson4592
      @jaydavidson4592 3 года назад +9

      @@voltaire5427 Planet fitness membership too 🤣😭

    • @voltaire5427
      @voltaire5427 3 года назад +6

      @@jaydavidson4592 Can't guarantee you wouldn't get shot first.

  • @davidmyhra4931
    @davidmyhra4931 3 года назад +597

    The gray man is a guy who can move through any crowd and not be noticed.

    • @marlonquintana3466
      @marlonquintana3466 3 года назад +113

      Been a pro at that with girls since my teens. 😔

    • @jormar6
      @jormar6 3 года назад +4

      @@marlonquintana3466 Lolololololololol!!!!!!

    • @indeedConfirmed
      @indeedConfirmed 3 года назад +8

      Indeed. I do that without even trying

    • @DvNezarto
      @DvNezarto 2 года назад +10

      Yeah i think he's confusing being a grey man with something else

    • @saucecrawla5498
      @saucecrawla5498 2 года назад +9

      Now the grey man stands out in a land of woke gay men

  • @CA.0verview
    @CA.0verview 3 года назад +211

    What I understood gray man meant was to blend in with population around so you don’t stick out as a obvious easy target.

    • @dalekidd420
      @dalekidd420 3 года назад +25

      ...Or an obvious FIRST target. If you happen to be standing in the bank when the robbery occurs, and you're dressed like a poster boy for 5.11, chances are you're getting shot as soon as the perps come through the door... they're going to think you're an off-duty cop.

    • @ThumperThumper-uo9oo
      @ThumperThumper-uo9oo 3 года назад +8

      Exactly you don't want to stand out in Indian county as they say... blend in so you don't stick out in the minds eye. To pass by someone that is looking for a person of interest. To be a ghost a lost faceless being that the mind never remembers

    • @trapperscout2046
      @trapperscout2046 3 года назад +2

      ​@@dalekidd420 Wouldn't being dressed like that be the opposite of being a gray man?

    • @RogerCharlamange
      @RogerCharlamange 3 года назад +5

      @@trapperscout2046 Not really, but kind of. 5.11 clothes are nice, they look like dress clothes for the most part. The material and extra pockets are what make them "tactical" But if someone knows anything about the "tacticool" culture, then they'd know you're probably packing .

    • @jacobroberts2864
      @jacobroberts2864 3 года назад +4

      The Gray man concepts isn’t necessarily about not being seen as a threat and dressing normal it’s about being able to be lost in a crowd knowing the environment that you’re inBeing able to carry yourself accordingly being able to walk past someone and I’m not even realize that you passed themYou can be a gray man and we’re tacticool clothes if there are others in that situation that are wearing similar type clothing or if you’re in a city or an area where it’s more well-to-do people make a lot of money there and dressing suits and ties you want to wear that to it’s more about adapting to the environment that you’re inSo as to not be easily remembered or stick out

  • @CivilDefenseEngineer
    @CivilDefenseEngineer 3 года назад +949

    I thought the concept of "gray man" was more how not to draw attention to yourself in an SHTF situation.

    • @billstopage
      @billstopage 3 года назад +36

      You gotta be a leader homie. What he is saying is be a leader, don’t hang out in the shadows. Step up and be elite.

    • @SNAKEEATER1776
      @SNAKEEATER1776 3 года назад +31

      Stop watching Lucas Botkin. He can only give advice based on HIS experience... which is not a whole lot involving getting shot at.

    • @keyboardwarriorhunter7266
      @keyboardwarriorhunter7266 3 года назад +92

      Ya but grey man is a pepper thing. I think he's getting it confused with dont be the quiet guy in the team or something like that.

    • @SNAKEEATER1776
      @SNAKEEATER1776 3 года назад +8

      @@keyboardwarriorhunter7266 this channel IS about getting selected and team life. There is no confusion. Buck’s definition is correct.

    • @keyboardwarriorhunter7266
      @keyboardwarriorhunter7266 3 года назад +27

      @@SNAKEEATER1776 read the comments there's a reason why half of them are talking about preppers.

  • @damonthomas8955
    @damonthomas8955 3 года назад +152

    Grey man is for when you don't have a team, when you are alone, outnumbered, getting home through hostile lawless territory. It's a good option when the situation is otherwise unwinnable.

    • @damonthomas8955
      @damonthomas8955 2 года назад +5

      @@ninjaw23 I often don't fade into the background very well. I am 6'3", 270, regular clothes, no jewelry, tattoos or wild hair, but people notice and remember me, strangers engage me in conversation. I guess it's just the vibe I put out, whether I want to or not.

    • @Shawnstradamus
      @Shawnstradamus 2 года назад +7

      I agree. To me it’s a small one shoulder bag with supplies to get home. That’s all. Nothing heroic, just enough stuff to get back to your home.

  • @reynaldorivera7641
    @reynaldorivera7641 3 года назад +125

    That’s how I did my military career, just kept volunteering for classes, training, and got to go to a lot of cool places, learned a lot. I thought about out of sight and out of mind. Just punch that time card and remain unknown. I made my career good

  • @Steven_DunbarSL
    @Steven_DunbarSL 3 года назад +179

    Moral of the video: Take advantage of not knowing anything to learn and be humble otherwise when you're expected to perform you won't have the same experience as someone who has learned from their failiures.

  • @troypetmecky86
    @troypetmecky86 3 года назад +94

    I've only heard "Grey Man" in prepper circles. It's usually about how when you're trying to get home or bug out, you don't want attention from opportunists. If you've got gear coming out your ears and have "tactical" stuff, folks are more likely to target you since your gear is the best.
    Similar to "The most dangerous man in the room" being the guy that has a ton of training and experience, but isn't flaunting it.
    While you may be able to spot a guy in military boots from a mile away, most people won't. Same with the pants. They may be obvious to you, but the vast majority of people just see them as pants.
    But great video! Definitely do not want to fly under the radar in your ODA as a new guy

    • @Kaotix_music
      @Kaotix_music 3 года назад +7

      yea the best example I give with "gray man theory" is the only way you'd know anything about me ever serving in the Army or what ive done in the army, is because I Brought it up in a conversation. Most people I meet cannot even tell; even weeks after ive known them that I served. But a marine - hell make it known in the first 30 seconds hes a marine and even posts his entire military career with stickers on the back of his truck.

    • @SideWays8Productions
      @SideWays8Productions 3 года назад +6

      The grey man theory is nothing but a paradox. The opportunists who will attack at the sight of fancy gucci gear are not the ones you have to worry about because of how harmless they really are, whereas the people who can recognize super secret covert Arcteryx pants and your VertX backpack and Solomon boots are the ones you’re gunna have to worry about, and you just painted yourself as a very worthy target.

    • @troypetmecky86
      @troypetmecky86 3 года назад +2

      @@SideWays8Productions I disagree with it being a paradox. While it's true that some folk might be able to pick out the usual "Grey Man" stuff, like those pants and that backpack, most people won't. And that's the thing, you want to avoid as much attention as possible. Those that are able to pick it out are likely to have their own plans/preps, so they'd be less likely to attack.
      What I'm worried about is Joe Shmoe who just realized that maybe ignoring the problem was a bad idea and is now panic hoarding every piece of gear he can find. It doesn't matter if he's not trained or incredibly fit, because getting into any altercation will draw attention at best and injure you at worst.
      So I agree, the "Grey Man" aesthetic isn't useful against folks in the know, but I'd rather worry about the 1 that knows vs the 100s that don't.

    • @SideWays8Productions
      @SideWays8Productions 3 года назад +2

      @@troypetmecky86 exactly, Grey Man theory only works if 100% of the people you encounter are either harmless or clueless. If even just one person can pick you out of a crowd, they have the element of surprise on you and are likely just as trained.

    • @troypetmecky86
      @troypetmecky86 3 года назад +4

      @@SideWays8Productions I've already responded to that. I'd rather worry about one person who might know rather than hundreds that don't. You'll never be able to be 100% safe, but that's a fact of life. The Grey Man Aesthetic is all about risk mitigation, not risk absolution.
      Additionally, you don't need the pants/backpack for the Grey Man aesthetic. So long as it's something that works for you and you don't stuck out like a sore thumb, you're fine.
      For example, if you're trying to blend in around rural folk, you'd want worker jeans and some form of hat, but if you're on the sea shore, you'd stick out with that getup.
      TLDR: GM is about risk mitigation, not risk absolution. There will always be someone who wants to take everything you have. The less people notice you, the better.

  • @Melvin-belvin
    @Melvin-belvin 3 года назад +242

    Lol. I’m a grey man in my daily life without even trying. Everyone always forgets they’ve already met me. 😑

    • @Vato-Psyko-Loko
      @Vato-Psyko-Loko 3 года назад +13

      I'm the opposite. Everybody always remembers my face no matter how hard I try to blend in. It sucks.

    • @thekalamazookid4481
      @thekalamazookid4481 3 года назад +8

      Who are you again? Lol

    • @knowtheplan472
      @knowtheplan472 3 года назад +12

      I feel like the opposite, people know my name and I feel like I never even met them till they bring up a past conversation or something. Makes me feel like I have dementia or something

    • @MrLewis91120
      @MrLewis91120 3 года назад

      Same here!

    • @user-fp8bm4ci3r
      @user-fp8bm4ci3r 3 года назад +1

      Wait... shit man I forgot...- what’s ur name again??? I feel like we’ve met 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @ronwoods1834
    @ronwoods1834 3 года назад +73

    The gray man approach is more often discussed in prepper and self defense circles. It’s more about not putting a target on your back in self defense or shtf scenarios. There is a time to be covert and a time to be overt.

    • @nattyfeatureseverything6179
      @nattyfeatureseverything6179 3 года назад +6

      someones read the art of war high 5

    • @lone189
      @lone189 2 года назад

      im new to this and im wondering wouldnt being a grey man mean people will try to take advantage of you because you seem like an easy target? because you look so ordinary?

    • @suntzu5836
      @suntzu5836 Год назад

      @@nattyfeatureseverything6179 I wrote the book

    • @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
      @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 Год назад +2

      Yeah and that's all valid, but he's talking about not being the grey man in a military unit. You have to stand out and be good at your job if you want the most out of your military career. Obviously when you're in the field, depending on your job, you may need to blend in to your surroundings in order to achieve your objectives, but most jobs in the military aren't this sort of sneaky beaky job 😂

  • @dscheffler
    @dscheffler 3 года назад +40

    If I'm not mistaken the term "Gray Man" was used in FM 21-78 (Prisoner of War Resistance: 1981). It has to do with not drawing attention to yourself in a POW camp.

  • @lawterian
    @lawterian Год назад +4

    I don’t think you’ve done any research into this but “Gray man” is a covert tactic to bug out an urban environment, whether you’re operator or civilian. It’s done via the use of plain gray/neutral clothes that don’t draw attention.

  • @TheJDShowofficial
    @TheJDShowofficial 3 года назад +264

    Being the grey man is just being the guy that can be counted for everything but doesn’t attempt to highlight himself. The grey man is usually a listener and not a speaker. He is the guy that performs well at his job but not so much to where he outperforms most of the group. The grey man is also not a shitbag he fits perfectly in the middle.

    • @journimorrison9387
      @journimorrison9387 3 года назад +2

      Like Darryl from walking dead?

    • @d.st.michael4195
      @d.st.michael4195 3 года назад +3

      @@journimorrison9387 Grey man extreme. Lol

    • @darkcat5649
      @darkcat5649 3 года назад

      It’s basically Friedrich Nietzsche’s “last man”

    • @J1Pa17
      @J1Pa17 2 года назад +1

      This is literally my whole life average to above average

    • @ivanschekoldin7315
      @ivanschekoldin7315 Год назад

      @@journimorrison9387more like be the most boring guy in the room

  • @firearmsolutions46
    @firearmsolutions46 3 года назад +32

    I think the whole "Gray Man" thing started with SHTF and blending in not drawing attention to yourself while doing recon for food,supplies,intel ect. or just moving from one local to another so your not noticed It has nothing to do with being the NFG in an SOF A team,Ranger, or Seal team

  • @tom_olofsson
    @tom_olofsson 3 года назад +8

    The State Department uses "grey man" as a description of how to act if your embassy is occupied by a terror group. They suggest you not stand out. Standing out makes you a target. Don't be loud. Don't be flashy. Don't be first. Don't be last. Be part of the crowd. It is a survival strategy.

  • @ThePreparednessGuyOfficial
    @ThePreparednessGuyOfficial 3 года назад +26

    Gray man just means being able to avoid unnecessary attention when the situation dictates. It’s entirely situation dependent, and like we see here, there are times you want to stand out.

    • @ThePreparednessGuyOfficial
      @ThePreparednessGuyOfficial 3 года назад

      *nothing to do with tactical pants, but that’s sure what people seem to think for some strange reason. 🤷‍♂️

  • @NeoSharkey
    @NeoSharkey 3 года назад +27

    I believe the origin of “grey man” was from Robert Jordan’s “Wheel of Time”, where grey men were soulless assassins who were supernaturally bland, to the point where most people would not notice them standing in front of them.
    The prepper community uses it to try to get the idea across that you should blend in...don’t obviously be the prepared guy in a SHTF situation. Where ever you go, you should look like you belong and not draw attention to yourself.

  • @rickyk8254
    @rickyk8254 3 года назад +5

    You do realize that the teem Grey man refers to avoid drawing attention to yourself in an shtf or civil unrest scenario. It has nothing to do with the military. It is about avoiding attention and potential conflicts.

  • @darrellseike3185
    @darrellseike3185 3 года назад +6

    The first time I heard of the Gray Man was in SAS literature referring to not calling undo attention to yourself in regards to the enemy. Don't advertise who and what you are to them. It has nothing to do with flying below the radar within your own community.

  • @andrewrice4513
    @andrewrice4513 3 года назад +9

    The "Gray Man" is a concept we were taught in the Commonwealth version of SERE. I my case it was being reminded to be quiet, fade, dont be visible any more than required..

  • @squirreltakular9049
    @squirreltakular9049 3 года назад +3

    Every time I've heard it used was always in the context of "don't look like you have a gun."
    Eg. clothing that people in the area wear, regular haircut, relaxed body language.

  • @albertochavez6709
    @albertochavez6709 3 года назад +43

    Being the gray man is a concept used in selection. You don't want the Cadre to know who you are. You don't want to bring unwanted attention to yourself. That is what it means to be the gray man

    • @gabeflame7803
      @gabeflame7803 3 года назад +3

      Other former special ops you tubers like Warrior Poet Society talk about it

    • @andrewb325
      @andrewb325 3 года назад

      Yeah I always thought it applied to selection and schools, not when you get to the actual unit.

  • @hankbaez2728
    @hankbaez2728 Год назад +2

    Gray man is a British SIS term dubbeb by the Agency to describe deep under cover agents, case officers and or NOCs. A gray man is someone who looks unassuming and blends in with the crowd, but is well equipped for an emergency situation. The term ‘gray man’ (or ‘grey man’ in British English) is used to describe this practice of downplaying one's skillsets and resources. The idea behind the gray man theory is that in crisis situations, there are benefits to going unnoticed and blending in!

  • @CasualD3d
    @CasualD3d 3 года назад +2

    Being the "gray man" refers to not standing out in a non permissive environment. To not draw attention to yourself. To blend in with the social environment and not become a target. To basically not look like a "tourist". Dress down and wear neutral colors. But its specific to location, region, environment etc. And not so much in reference to military. Unless you're doing some high clandestine shizzy. Spycraft type stuff.
    Btw i think youre channel is awesome. Thank you for the content!

  • @Ry4n.gr33n
    @Ry4n.gr33n 2 года назад +2

    I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Gray Man is a prepper concept, it means don’t stand out, don’t draw attention, don’t give anyone a reason to mess with you. It’s got nothing to do with being some kind of badass operator trying to get a reputation. No thanks.
    Gray man is a blue Prius with a 300 blackout in the back seat. Gray man is a pink plastic tub labeled “baby clothes” that’s full of medical supplies.

    • @FNGACADEMY
      @FNGACADEMY  2 года назад

      and I am now informed. God speed.

  • @TheAsianOfChaos
    @TheAsianOfChaos 3 года назад +6

    I’ve always took it as advice when in public, just be the same as everyone else. When your back home with a group of people be as much of a leader as you want but don’t put yourself in a position to get robbed or killed when it’s not needed
    Edit dude.... this concept isn’t supposed to be used for professional settings it’s supposed used for life and death

  • @chrisdimmitt7012
    @chrisdimmitt7012 3 года назад +5

    I've never heard the Gray Man tern used that way. I always took it as urban camo, blending into an urban environment. Don't be that super tactical dude, all it does is draw attention to yourself that might just put a big target on your back

  • @maxpain1947
    @maxpain1947 3 года назад +2

    As a former military personnel. Think your confused on what being a grey man is.

  • @slapout9
    @slapout9 3 года назад +14

    Comes from the 1950's novel "The Man In The Grey Flannel Suit" (also made into a good movie with Gregory Peck) which was all about conforming to the status quo. Hence if your a Grey Man you blend in.

  • @outdooroutpost6061
    @outdooroutpost6061 3 года назад +14

    Buck totally unrelated. But today I found out that the song in “Behind Enemy Lines” when they’re firing up the jet on the aircraft carrier is called “BUCK ROGERS” lmfao

    • @outdooroutpost6061
      @outdooroutpost6061 3 года назад

      BANGER JAM BTW “Buck Rogers by Feeder”

    • @jamess4351
      @jamess4351 3 года назад +1

      😆 "she drives a jag-u-ar.. it's got a cd player (echoed)"

  • @wilb6657
    @wilb6657 3 года назад +4

    This is a really interesting video. I once watched a documentary on British SAS training, put on by former SAS dudes, where they stressed being the "gray man" in training. Basically, they said that the "gray man" was the dude who did everything expected of them but also didn't mess up alot.

  • @JamesFromTexas
    @JamesFromTexas 3 года назад +3

    Great video! Once I became an NCO the first thing I did when arriving in a new unit was give a class. Make yourself available, step up to the plate, and don't forget about everything you've forgotten.

  • @kalrodwick
    @kalrodwick 3 года назад +1

    Grey man as I've heard it is mostly for civilians or low vis ops over seas. It's for when you don't want to be picked out of a crowd. As a concealed carrier I obviously don't want to be noticed. I drive a standard SUV that can carry all of my guns and armour (private security) and most people wouldn't target the car cuz it looks empty.

  • @DJNZNZ
    @DJNZNZ 3 года назад +8

    As Goggins would say “they got that blending in mentality. Stay hard”

  • @moreparrotsmoredereks2275
    @moreparrotsmoredereks2275 2 года назад +1

    "Grey man" refers to certain people with a rare skin condition.

  • @JayDubb3BCT
    @JayDubb3BCT 3 года назад +10

    I can't help being a grey man.... I'm old. 😂 This is a very good topic. Closed mouth's don't get fed. Knowledge transfer goes along way in everyday life, let alone the military. Be a sponge. Be safe out there Sean! Keep on keeping on Brother! 🇺🇸🤘🏼

  • @cycliccop
    @cycliccop 3 года назад +13

    Being the “grey man” only applies to basic, RASP, BUDS, Selection, etc. It is referring to not standing out to the cadre or instructors so you don’t get fucked with and make your situation harder. It is not for when you arrive at regiment or any permanent duty station.

    • @ChiefMason
      @ChiefMason 2 года назад

      You are correct 👍🏻

  • @tommy2x4
    @tommy2x4 3 года назад +1

    i can be either...i'm proud to wear my patriotic gear, service i was in, etc...also, i can be the most basic of basic guys that wouldn't bring any attention to myself. HUMINT is a great place to practice being a grey man.

  • @derekvazquezz3067
    @derekvazquezz3067 3 года назад +1

    The Grey man is more for civilians or ex military to blend into urban populations when shtf. However, if shtf, an urban area is the LAST place you want to be.

  • @Tomlin1132james
    @Tomlin1132james 3 года назад +1

    Anyone wanting to get involved in Special Operations as a whole should watch these, it's good to know this information. Ive been part of the community for 7 years and it's still good to hear these things so I can (properly) encourage people to try out who are unsure of themselves. Thanks for putting this stuff out there

  • @matthewchapman2909
    @matthewchapman2909 3 года назад +49

    Nothing like a new video to brighten up a dark day!

    • @gameocalypse6040
      @gameocalypse6040 3 года назад +2

      Turning a dark day into a gray day 🙃 but seriously, agreed.

    • @80milekyle70
      @80milekyle70 3 года назад

      Are you in Alaska?

  • @Rockit-
    @Rockit- 3 года назад +1

    Agree with what you are saying but for me, being a gray man is just not drawing attention to yourself in a crowd or a place by what you wear and act

  • @Joseph45483
    @Joseph45483 3 года назад +1

    I don't think gray man is meant for those on a team, but for those in hostile environments needing to blend in and flee a bad situation without drawing attention to himself.
    Gray man and concealed carry makes sense to me.

  • @CarlosPerez-em3wu
    @CarlosPerez-em3wu 3 года назад +1

    Man I swear you guys give miss America contestants a run for their money 🤣

  • @superman1110
    @superman1110 3 года назад +4

    Great video, I’m shipping out as an 11b in July and I think this video applies not only to SF but also the real army, I’m a guy that worries about making mistakes and failing, and this is really good advice that has given me a bit more confidence. Thanks Buck.

    • @N3wbMa5t3r
      @N3wbMa5t3r 3 года назад

      This video doesn't apply to the military at all... He means lonewolf not gray man.

  • @michaelanderson9914
    @michaelanderson9914 3 года назад +1

    Grey man is just for situations where you don't want to stand out in enemy or unknown territory.

  • @shotgunsmachetes8817
    @shotgunsmachetes8817 3 года назад +1

    gray man is the dude you don't see, it's not about being a green beret

  • @ad41340
    @ad41340 3 года назад +2

    Dude this word does not mean what you think it means. I made it to 2:35 and it's painful.

  • @tcw6442
    @tcw6442 3 месяца назад +2

    This channel doesn't know what a grey man is.. its not stolen valor.. its about keeping your head down & not being sticking out like a sore thumb.

  • @metoonunyabidness1391
    @metoonunyabidness1391 11 месяцев назад +1

    The grey man concept is for bugging out during shtf
    And yes, you should if the need arises…

  • @Kinglymarker8988
    @Kinglymarker8988 2 года назад +1

    Great talk. You are so on point about getting the mistakes out and done early. 20 years ago I was a machine tool/ manufacturing education instructor at a local community college. One year, At the beginning of Fall session,I was handed the syllabi for two management classes. Was told the adjuncts were not brought back, you’re picking up their classes. I walked into that Intro to Supervision class ( full of 40-50 yo olds who just needed the credits) and told them they knew more about real world supervision than I did , and I needed their help. Each week I wanted a SME on the chapter to give a short overview on how they handled the weeks assignment. By the time break time happened, several students came to me to volunteer their help. Class was great, everyone learned from each other, my job became facilitator of the lesson and each student shined in his or her day leading the class. I learned how to be a more effective instructor and made a number of friends along the way.

  • @Free_entertainment401
    @Free_entertainment401 3 года назад +1

    1st time see your video. Don’t know much about you or the type of video. But it pop up on my suggestion. Anyway just wanted to say thank you for your service. The “ gray Man “ mindset or concept is more towards civilian. I might be wrong but is almost a way of not sticking out like you’re a Prepper so no will target you. So when SHTF you look like the average Joe. So as of today in 2021 I believe we should be more like the “ Gray man “if you’re in the Green Beret, I would want the best tactical gear, because The Green Beret are an elite team. The gray man be for like if you detective and watch people rioting and burning things down so you can later prosecute them later. Or if you a CIA dude. You want to look like the average Joe.

  • @thelegendarycamel
    @thelegendarycamel 3 года назад +10

    Soon as I hear that "what's up everybody, welcome back to the FNG academy, Buck her former Green Beret here to help YOU guys get selected" no matter what I'm doing it makes me hyper focused and continues to affirm the ultimate goal of earning that Green Beret at all costs, thanks for the awesome content buck!

  • @Decimus1988
    @Decimus1988 3 года назад +1

    The way it was explained to me: the "grey man" is someone who doesn't draw unnecessary attention to him/herself. They don't necessarily have to be experts in fighting or combat. They just have a firm grasp on their environment and dress/act accordingly to stay out of trouble. I could be wrong about this though.

  • @nickkundrat9757
    @nickkundrat9757 3 года назад +3

    Going into Navy Nurse Corps very soon and I know the corpsman know way more than me. This video helped a lot. Thank you!

  • @jorgemendez9301
    @jorgemendez9301 3 года назад +1

    “Grey man” as far as a civilian. I’ve never heard the “grey man” in the military. Good video bud. Thanks

  • @BobSchmidty
    @BobSchmidty 9 месяцев назад

    As a cop with 20yrs on the job, I've seen the worst of our society for a good chunk of my life. If SHTF, do everything you can to avoid making yourself a target. Blend into the crowd, and get where you're going. You're not going to win every gunfight.

  • @Joe_Friday
    @Joe_Friday 3 года назад +2

    Gray Man: not wearing tacticool shit. Not wearing flashy clothes. Not having anything on your vehicle that'd lead others to think you're armed or would have anything of value in your car. Decals like NRA, BCM, Glock, Magpul etc... Just wanna blend in with everyone else.

    • @gaythugsmatter7029
      @gaythugsmatter7029 3 года назад +1

      Thin Blue Line decal counts as well?

    • @Joe_Friday
      @Joe_Friday 3 года назад

      @@gaythugsmatter7029 Maybe? Ever seen that Ryan Gosling movie called Drive? He uses a plain Jane silver impala so he doesn't stick out as much. That's him being as gray as possible. That's a really good opening scene.

    • @marcuslaker5876
      @marcuslaker5876 3 года назад

      ...a big FN sticker from your scar purchase! So bad ass..,

  • @Paralius
    @Paralius 2 месяца назад

    I’m not military or anything like that. My skill set is firearms, engineering, camping/survival, and staying out of sight. I got a veteran dude in my shtf team who’s seen hardcore combat and says the best way to stay safe is to stay invisible and out of sight

  • @AAA-k8f5e
    @AAA-k8f5e 3 месяца назад

    I was in SF. The grey man is surviving in area where you don’t fit. Back in the day, they would drop you in DC with 5 bucks and give you a week to get back to FT. Bragg without getting arrested.
    You are going through areas you are not welcome, outsider. I found my good looks and pleasant demeanor got me through most areas, including a ride and meal from the Sheriff’s department in North Carolina.

  • @outerheavenpaintball
    @outerheavenpaintball 3 года назад +2

    I wasn't military. Yet, when I was a kid, I wanted to be the 18B (Weapons Sergeant) in a team or try for tier 1 stuff. I'm not sure if this can help anyone, but its been my experience that you've gotta have that passion for something to be able to do it right. Yeah, new guys aren't expected to know shit and the vets will mentor and help where needed. Yet in those kind of teams, leave the ego at home.

  • @DanielRodriguez-yc1jz
    @DanielRodriguez-yc1jz 3 года назад +27

    Hey Buck I think the term of being “the gray man” comes from a lot of prior green berets talking about the best opportunity to get selected during SFAS by not trying to be the first one in every event and showing off to cadre but also not being the last one and the weakest link. Somewhere in the middle is the sweet spot where you can pull your own weight but also not stand out too much. You don’t want cadre knowing your name essentially.

    • @jteeza100
      @jteeza100 3 года назад +1

      This is the definitive definition. Somewhere along the line, packs of filthy L.AR.P.s co-opted the term to apply to being their romanticized version of a current or former operator blending in with civilian life or a "certified-badass" that everyday carries. The whole thing has gone off the rails at this point.

    • @Melvin-belvin
      @Melvin-belvin 3 года назад +6

      What was the saying? “The nail that sticks out gets hammered.”

    • @SNAKEEATER1776
      @SNAKEEATER1776 3 года назад +3

      Have you been selected? That is completely wrong. I’ve seen this ‘gray man’ theory backfire. No one wants a ‘grey man’ on their team, military or civilian alike. We want hard workers and go-getters. Go into selection doing your best. it’ll get noticed for good reason.

  • @victormudrack3406
    @victormudrack3406 3 года назад +1

    It's obvious you've geared this vid toward the new soldier, or mil-operator, of some sort. It that context, I get what you're offering. For just Joe-Civies, the concept is to be the non-descript 'everyman', that a perp is not likely to pick right up on before he/she acts.

  • @mikewood3309
    @mikewood3309 3 года назад +1

    "Grey Man" applies more to surveillance operators in covert or clandestine situations where your presence should not be detected, with the intent of intelligence gathering or monitoring, which applies militarily as well, and is obviously used for SHTF.

  • @THEANPHROPY
    @THEANPHROPY 3 года назад +1

    A: "grey man" is a person that does NOT stand-out in an environment e.g. crowds. A univeral grey man will be able to adapt to any environment through being observant & or informbed & changing: attire; body language; skin tone, skin colour, accent.

  • @Kaotix_music
    @Kaotix_music 3 года назад +1

    "Gray Man Theory" really comes from civilian sector. Guys who EDC or peppers or what have you. In the case of an emergency (lets use the most extreme example possible - an active mass shooter) IF youre a dude with a beard, wearing Oakleys or gators, wearing your 5.11 tactical shirt, khaki cargo pants, merrel shoes, and a parachord bracelet, while also open carrying in a state that allows it and probably carrying a camo backpack with Molle on it with a .300 blackout AR pistol in there with a law tactical folder- who do you think an active shooter who has set his purpose and will fulfill it no mater what it takes is gonna go after first? Probably that guy in the corner screaming at the top of his lungs just by simply breathing and existing "GUYS! I AM THE WOLF! I HAVE A GUN! I AM TACTICOOL MAN! LOOK AT ME!". The grey man theory is exactly what you said - blending in. Just be that completely inconspicuous dude in the crowd. Carry whatever it is your EDC is and just dress normal. Wear your gym clothes, wear some shit from Zummies or Billabong. Look like that California libtard surfer moron. Typically "gray man theory" isnt really what you covered in this video - but like I said its most commonly a term as a civilian. Just dont stick out as the guy who is most definitely carrying a gun in public. Just look - normal. I served, I seen combat, I was in afghanistan - I even worked with ODAs for full deployments. The only way anyone would know that about me is because I told them. Not by my appearance. Its like marines who put their entire ERB on the bumper of the cars. "We get it bro - youre a marine" lol they just make it so known to everyone they cross on a daily basis theyre a marine without telling them which is the opposite of "gray man theory"

  • @tatankat5839
    @tatankat5839 3 года назад +2

    Your argument for not being a gray man is to become a gray man

  • @alharrison1038
    @alharrison1038 3 года назад +2

    Very motivational. This has nothing to do with what a gray man is, which is a (usually solitary) person in a shtf situation that tries to blend in and not draw undo attention to themselves when they are (usually) scavenging or moving out in the open. Nice video. Gray man is a survivalist term for blending in.

  • @baylorhubble7113
    @baylorhubble7113 3 года назад +1

    As far as I know, a "grey man" refers to civilians. It's someone who blends into the general population, but they conceal carry.

  • @Tacticalboxcutter
    @Tacticalboxcutter 3 года назад +1

    I don't see anything wrong with being greyman as a prepper. Especially as a civilian. It beats being a hard target without military training.

  • @N3wbMa5t3r
    @N3wbMa5t3r 3 года назад +2

    No, Gray man is an EDC Prepper term when around town as to not standout so people know you're concealed carrying and have professional training. Gray man cant be used in reference to the teams... That would be a lonewolf or not a team player and those guys never stick around long...

  • @jaychoi7569
    @jaychoi7569 3 года назад +6

    I remember being a fresh outta PLDC E-5 and asking a question to a PL about land nav (which I wasn’t that good at in the beginning until I got reps in during other training cycles and deployments) during an exercise and getting my ass chewed for asking an officer from my PLT Sgt. hahaha. I figured we’re all men here and didn’t see what the problem was. Shit was almost 20 years ago.

  • @jwoop66
    @jwoop66 3 года назад +4

    You don't have the slightest idea of what being the "gray man" is about. It has nothing to do with guys showing up to join your "operator" group. Its when you're in foreign territory and want to get the F out. dude? seriously?

    • @RobertMorgan
      @RobertMorgan 3 года назад

      Ironically, if someone in a SF group like that I was in joined/was assigned, and they went to lengths to not stand out, THAT would stand out to me. You're supposed to be elite, good at something, what are you trying to hide, I don't trust you, is how it would go. Trying too hard not to stand out made you stand out.

  • @jacquezghardy
    @jacquezghardy 11 месяцев назад

    A quick google search explains that a gray man is someone who appears extremely oblivious and unsuspecting but is actually extremely prepared for an emergency situation.
    It’s not someone who’s trying to act like they know everything, as you seem to be explaining

  • @bearieroblox6451
    @bearieroblox6451 2 года назад +1

    Conventional army here, I tried being the gray man for a while and now I’m paying the price, don’t get discouraged or embarrassed when people demean you for being highspeed because in the end those are the individuals who succeed many many people will belittle you for it, and whether they know it or not it’s because they lacked the courage to step up. Because when you step up you make yourself vulnerable, but it’s accepting that fact and facing the challenges head on while being vulnerable which set you apart, it’s what set apart the elite from the common. Obviously you still need to learn how to be a good follower before you can be a good leader so that means not overstepping your boundaries too much. Just the slightest bit. Just a bit more than you are obligated and so that you are noticed but not too much where your leadership thinks you are trying to take their job.

  • @liamalepta8003
    @liamalepta8003 Год назад

    Not sure what is meant by the term 'gray man" . Basically what I understand is, it means to not be out of place. Such as dressing like a militant, in a area of all business suits. The stand out guy is first target or alerts others to be curious, for instance, you are dressed in all tactical gear and in walmart loading carts full of survival gear . It basically means to not draw attention to yourself.

  • @uihorus4972
    @uihorus4972 3 года назад +21

    The one person who disliked this video must be a grey man

  • @tgreen603
    @tgreen603 3 года назад +2

    I've never heard of a "Gray man". Thanks for definitely making a video about this. And I'll watch out.

    • @RobertMorgan
      @RobertMorgan 3 года назад

      This is they guy they attack and kill first in The Collapse...as the grey man says nothing and watches. Then goes home undetected to his safety, and laughs.

  • @lonew2657
    @lonew2657 3 года назад +1

    I didn't think the term had anything to do with "operator's" or "professionals" .

  • @Ssss16483
    @Ssss16483 2 года назад +1

    I personally dont care about the grey man idea but I still like the function of having alot of pocket and clothes that won't tear easily and doesn't look to out of place like camo clothes do

  • @roberthughes7455
    @roberthughes7455 2 года назад

    The theory of The Gray Man is not blending in or going unnoticed. It is the ability to get others to think the way you want them to think. It is about manipulation and presenting a presence about yourself to throw people off of who you really are.

  • @masterofnone11
    @masterofnone11 3 года назад +1

    I can spot a RUclipsr that wasn't into guns before RUclips from a mile away

  • @mikebridges4749
    @mikebridges4749 3 года назад +7

    Dude "grey man" refers to being concealed carrying as a civilian in public, or in times of civil unrest...in public.
    Not on duty.

  • @azrielisrael8505
    @azrielisrael8505 2 года назад

    finally found your 'Gray Man' video bro! you were right!!!! i was reading the comments and the comments are ridiculous..... i was referring to the comment you made on your review on the grey man episode with John (actor guy). Keep Up the Great VIds bro! very insightful!!!!!!!!!!!! you bring it home, every time :D

  • @chaimaaron7281
    @chaimaaron7281 3 года назад

    Very helpful advice, been following your channel since the beginning. I am training to become an Army Chaplain. Completely Different MOS but same ideology. As I progress in my studies I know that it’s time to step up and start sharing knowledge even though I’m still in school. Being the new guy has its advantages because I’m supposed to make mistakes. Having the humility to know you don’t know everything is part of the process! Only blessings! Thank you :)

  • @kevinicity01
    @kevinicity01 3 года назад

    Man, I love this guy's calm demeanor as he explains stuff. You can tell when people have reached the pinnacle of their professions. You can just tell.

  • @MrJBARRON
    @MrJBARRON 3 года назад +1

    The gray man as I understand it is more relevant in the civilian world, a sort of fully equipped guy with an arsenal in a backpack, unassuming person who blends in on the street or in most civilian situations but is ready to go active under certain situations that require martial capabilities

  • @ScottAT
    @ScottAT 3 года назад +1

    Grey man is what I do especially when I go into urban environments. I don’t think you understand what Grey Man is if you are looking at it like this. Your commentary is not on track with Grey Man or even Sheep Dog mentality. Grey Man is not for in service use amongst your peers. It has more to do with SERE-C, Urban Evasion, SHTF.

  • @esfowle
    @esfowle 3 года назад +1

    Never seen this channel before, never seen you before. That being said, you definitely need to look into what the greyman concept is all about. This is not for active duty personnel in an active theater.
    The base concept of being the greyman is to not be the person being noticed or drawing attention to themselves in a crisis or SHTF situation. Hypothetically, in a "grid down" situation where there is a breakdown of society in either a temporary or permanent manner, you don't want to be the nail that sticks up to be noticed. This means don't be the guy in tactical pants with combat boots if everyone else is in torn jeans and t-shirts looking dirty and hungry.
    Why? Because if you look healthy, well fed, and like you might have a weapon, you may become the target of the starving crowd. It doesn't matter how Operator you are if you only have one gun, one reload, and no supporting troops to back you up in a bad situation. You will be hammered if you are the nail that sticks up.
    Blend onto your surroundings(the crowd), gather the intel needed to make the right decisions for you or your group so you can act in a manner in which will increase your survivability long term. Operating in a covert or clandestine manner has it's place, even in the military, and it is not done waiving an American Flag in a hostile theater wearing full battle fatigues in full battle rattle.
    Understanding that the hostile theater just might become your neighborhood grocery store is what the concept of greyman is about, and understanding how to not draw unwanted attention to yourself.

  • @mikehart5619
    @mikehart5619 3 месяца назад

    The "look" that is most advantageous to present depends on the terrain and circumstance. If we are talking about a military combat situation where you are part of a team, a camo tactical uniform would be appropriate. If we are talking about moving stealthfully through the jungle alone or part of a small unit, a gully suit might be appropriate. If we are talking about being a survivor in an urban or even small-town rural post-apocalyptic situation the Gray Man might be appropriate. In all these situations you are trying not to stand out and presenting yourself as an ordinary local makes sense. You are talking about when you are part of a team, particularly in the early stages of team formation when you are the new guy. In that situation, there is no advantage to trying to be invisible. You want your teammates to see you and know your capabilities, strengths, and weaknesses. Trying to be a Gray Man would make as much sense as wearing a woodland camo in the snow.

  • @MattGoesSkiing
    @MattGoesSkiing 3 года назад +1

    Grey man had to do with blending in during everyday life but being prepared for every situation, SHTF, civil unrest, etc. Nothing to do with military.

  • @zapdog_
    @zapdog_ 2 месяца назад

    Being a gray man is a great way to look like an undercover cop.

  • @wranglerjeepdogs906
    @wranglerjeepdogs906 3 года назад +1

    There is a time and place for gray man and a time for drawing attention. Im in my 50's and been a long time since I went on a long walk with a heavy pack. But I have spent my life working in the ER. It would be stupid for me to talk tactics now with a Marine but as a Corpsman I have carried a few to a safer place (decades ago). It would be just as bad for a green infantry man to tell me what to do in my ER. Knowing when to be a gray man has its place. "Better to let someone think your a fool than open your mouth and confirm it"

    • @RobertMorgan
      @RobertMorgan 3 года назад

      Being a grey man would involve you seeing someone getting hurt and pretending you have no clue what to do or how to help, because in the situation in which you would need to employ grey man tactics, you show others you might not be friendly with you have medical training, you're now a hostage. You'll be THEIR medic, or they'll kill you if you refuse.
      You'll be taken from your group/loved ones and they will lose the value of your skills, because someone willing to use more force will want your skills.
      Think of it like actual servicemen who work sensitive positions, my late Brother in Law as a good example: He worked signals intelligence, when he was on active duty employment in Turkey, he was under orders to not be captured, even if that meant taking his own life, as the knowledge he possessed was THAT valuable to our enemies. Don't draw attention to yourself unless you want attention, and usually it's not they kind of attention you want.

  • @KyleMeyer949
    @KyleMeyer949 6 месяцев назад

    This video had nothing to do with great man, but everything to do with life. Great job watched right through

  • @glassjar7814
    @glassjar7814 3 года назад +1

    I’ve lived the “grey man” life for all my years. Jeans, t shirt and a hoodie and some normal sneakers? No one gives me a second look. Especially women

    • @rustym.shackelford5546
      @rustym.shackelford5546 3 года назад

      Here's an idea: peacocking. It means to *deliberately* dress provocatively to attract a woman's attention (sometimes I use my ankle monitor in that sense - Women and other people see it and wonder what it is which invites conversation - which is the intent). Don't need to be *way way too* out there but, however, even the tiniest minute attention to the details will go a very long way (and just remember to keep the conversation on topic as well as maintain proper eye contact up to and including using proper grammar and pronunciation).

  • @Hasselroeder
    @Hasselroeder 2 года назад

    "Gray man" is just the concept of being equipped well, but not showing it in public, so no one would bother you or want to rob you. It's mainly a prepper thing. Has nothing to do with the topic in the video. So when it comes to a "Bug-Out-Situation" BE the gray man!

  • @anomilumiimulimona2924
    @anomilumiimulimona2924 3 года назад +1

    Uh, its not about how you deal with the men on your team, or your friends.
    Its about how you deal with everyone else.
    And your a operator?

  • @Neil_mccauley365
    @Neil_mccauley365 2 года назад

    Gray Man theory is the guy who's prepared but doesn't attract attention to the fact that he is. Which is great

  • @dragonhunter3471
    @dragonhunter3471 3 года назад

    You have no idea how overjoyed I am to find something that having been a drum major is gonna help me do

  • @Exhuman101
    @Exhuman101 2 месяца назад

    He has good advice not just for those in the military, everyone. As far as the grey man it's mostly mental, and very handy when needed.