Help Reduce shop fire!
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- If your anything like me fires in the shop are a big concern. In this video i show you my solution to help reduce the risk of fire from cordless tool batteries and chargers with a simple charging cabinet.
Thank you for the idea of us in a flammable cabinet to store batteries and chargers. Really appreciate it.
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I must live under a rock, this the first time hearing that batteries can catch fire...I guess I will change my charging overnight to have them ready for the the next day... I built my shop 3 years ago and don't want to have a fire. I think i will build a box or figure out something to house the over 30 batteries i charge
thanks for this info i learn so much from all your videos
Yea fires from cordless tool batteries and the like are a serious problem. I know a handful of people who have had fires start from faulty batteries.
Leave it to the Internet to bad mouth someone trying to help. Thank you Mike! Your videos and helpful hints are appreciated by me!!!!
Thanks for watching, seems a lot of people just want to hear themselves talk no matter if they are right are wrong. luckily I have tough skin
This is a awesome. I lost everything to a jump box charger a few years ago
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I’m retired from fire service 30 years. Fire investigator, Fire inspector. Hats off to you for being proactive. Great job. Youshould do some more videos on Shop safety. I’d be glad to help.
Great simple idea! Thanks for sharing
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Great idea.
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Great idea. I've had a couple of close calls. I have been thinking along similar lines but using a display cooler. I may use your idea in conjunction. 1 thing with me is the unbranded batteries, or not made by the Tool maker, have been a worry and waste of money. Great content !
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I saw your original IG post, and this is still genius in my book. So genius, I recently acquired a cabinet to build my own version.
Thanks, glad my post made a difference
Great idea 👍
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Great idea mate anything you can do to reduce the risk of fire and prevent fire is a winner. Cheers.
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Why would anyone cry about being safe for any reason, smart idea, good job
I have found that a lot of people feel their opinion is the most important and they can do better or are smarter than anything they see online. So they just want to argue and belittle others. Those people are quite sad
About a decade ago, my father passed and he left me a lot of tools. One of these tools was a rechargeable Ryobi drill and batteries. Being a guy who always errs on the side of caution, I decided to plug in the battery while I was in the shop, to both test out the drill and make sure the charger works properly.
I am so glad I did. I just happened to be heading out of my basement workshop when I remembered the battery was charging and glanced over and noticed what I thought was a little puff of smoke come from the battery. I ran over and unplugged it as the smoke increased slightly. Battery and charger were super hot and on the verge of catching on fire!!! I had to take it by the cord and swing it through my open basement window outside where it smouldered on the lawn for quite a while after.
A storage area for such batteries is, in my opinion, a great idea. Now, how to isolate them from one another 🤔
there is no good way to isolate them completely, from one another with out each battery and charger being their own box for someone like me with 12-15 batteries its not realistic to have that many boxes.
Great ideas Mike. I’m rebuilding from a shop fire right now. In my case the charger on the trailer winch battery malfunctioned overnight and lit up the trailer walls. Lessons learned: don’t sit the charger on a wood shelf and turn off the charger when you go home. I had already planned to put the tool chargers into a cabinet. Being concerned about heat I’m using a 7’ tall locker so the volume and surface area can deal with the heat, avoiding vents or fans. Thanks to your video tip I will also add a power switch for the cabinet next to the light and air compressor switches at the exit door. Thanks for posting!
I say this it's smarter what you did to protect your investment over all.
Some of our insurance companies are not replacing our workshop and or homes either because of battery fires. Improperly storage loophole.
Secondly some of our new tool boxes are no equipped with battery charging stations inside of a drawer or top hutch.
Great video.
They now make special fire extinguisher for lithium batteries.
My batteries are storage and charging keep in an old safe.
And yes I know first hand a friend of mine lost there workshop and all of there hotrods and tools and years of collecting stuff and gone now and the insurance failed because of replacement cost.
Was not updated and costs of rebuilding skyrocketed out control.
My suggestion is make shure to have insurance with properties including personal tools equipment and umbrella policy including your investment with proof of contents tools ect.
Think plan execute to protect your investment.
If the wall cavity is filled with concrete, just like fire proof safes, then that fire should be contained. Your idea has great merit. Man you have so much valuable equipment there so I understand why you want to do what you can to mitigate the risks. Thanks for sharing.
Great idea. Put a Label on the Box "BATTERIES INSIDE", just so others know what is inside the box. Stay well and SAFE.
Thanks for watching, i havent labeled it since i am the only one in my shop, if there was a fire and the FD came i think they would see where the fire and smoke was coming from
Looks Great Mike, I like the cabinet idea. I keep my chargers on the same circuit as my shop lights so that I never forget to turn off my chargers. I'm definately going to look into a cabinet like yours.
Great idea, anything to reduce the potential of fire is far better than doing nothing
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just bringing up the idea of fire in a charger or a battery while charging "is heart felt" don't let those arm chair mechanics get to you (there legends in there own minds) thanks for sharing and helping
Another good addition to your cabinet would be one of the fire suppression sticks that are used for air cooled VW's. If you haven't seen one its a flexible stick that senses a fire and spills its guts. They come in different lengths and can be coiled or rolled up. People put them in the deck lid of VW bugs to suppress engine fires. You could coil one up in the top of your cabinet and you have a self contained fire suppression system. Also keep in mind that the new Dewalt Flex and Milwaukee Forge are lithium polymer batteries which are way more likely to have a problem resulting in fire. I have been flying RC helicopters for 25 years and I could tell you some stories about Lipo batteries.
I just looked it up. It's called Blaze Cut. It would be a great addition to your battery cabinet.
I think it’s a great idea, thank you for taking the time to share
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Safety awareness is key. Managing fire hazards is key. The fire rating on these cabinets are many hours. I have changed how I store. In a pro shop this is important.
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Hey Mike, great idea. If the door is shut, it may be a little while before you are aware there is a fire inside. Could you perhaps install a smoke detector into the cabinet? That way you will very quickly be alerted to the fact that you have a fire.
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You could use a rate of rise heat detector to turn off the power in the event of a fire. You could actually fire system that could smother the fire.
Very good protection for the shop. I have had multiple batteries and chargers melt down over the years. Nothing stays plugged in overnight anymore.
good idea and my little rule , I never charge anything overnight and when I am outside for long periods .
Love the idea, but just keep in mind those batteries heat up a good amount when they charge, so either leave the door open or put some kind of cooling fan in there when they’re actually charging
Great idea, you might want to consider modding the electrics by adding a PDTF Series Temperature Switch (70 degree/110v).
@@tanstaafl i think its good
Tha's a terrific idea, I can't see a downside to it.
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IDK if you've seen those fire extinguishing spheres that are inert until they're thrown in a fire at which point they explode releasing a gas and powder to snuff fires. My thought is what if one or two of those are put inside the cabinet? If a fire starts the cabinet would contain it and work on smothering it but the spheres releasing their compound would fill the cabinet also.
Just a thought.
good idea thanks
Food for though, I’m building something next week end
Glad this video made a diffence
Great idea and it gathers all the batteries in one spot. Would a ground fault plug in be of any use?
I am sure it wouldnt hurt. the power strip i have in the box has a circuit breaker built into it
I think this is great. Do you know if they make a gasket or door seals that are fire resistant?
The timer is a great idea.
Nice Work. I think that it would help. And the biggest thing it how you feel.
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You need to disconnect the power completely, both 120v and ground. If there is a lightning strike near your building, the high voltage can come though the building ground and damage the voltage regulators in the battery chargers, causing the batteries to overcharge. Surge suppressors only take line voltage and shunt to ground when the powerlines are hit, but if the ground near the building is charged, there is nowhere for that energy to go.
Oh geeze here we go
If nothing else, you have given me things to think about. In my business (40 years) there are just a few light switches that can be accessed when you come in the door. They illuminate the building so you can see where you're going. Other than the furnace/air conditioning system or other necessarily illuminated signs such as exit, nothing will turn on in the building until the proper breakers are turned on. When the building is done for the day the breakers are shut off with the exception of the aforementioned ones. This is just in case someone has not disconnected a power tool or something is left electrically that shouldn't be. My electrician told me that the breakers aren't necessarily designed to be turned off and on every day but I have never had one fail. I'm sticking with my system and thank you for your insight because it's going to change our habits.
A timely reminder because I have pondered on this very subject and just not done anything about it. This is sound advice and it is up to the viewer to act upon it. I do keep paint, white spirit and acetone inside a steel cabinet away from sparks. Geat advice young man!
Not a bad idea. To could go a step further and add a fuseable link to kill power in case of fire, and add a couple of those magnetic can extinguishers for hoods (you'd have to find ABC ones...hood ones may only be for grease).
Thanks for watching. My power supply has a circuit breaker built into it so it can shut it down in the event of a short from fire
I also plan to put my chargers and batteries in metal box/s, Thanks for bringing this up. Last week I had a load of stone delivered for my house and shop. Delivery guy said that his neighbors house caught for the day before. The cause was an E-bike being charged. Do you know the relative risks of batteries just sitting vs. being charged? I'm thinking that maybe lining the box with sheetrock with a water source that saturates it in the presence of fire. Water is not to extinguish the fire but dissipate the heat into steam. Thanks again.
house caught fire.....not 'for'. fat fingers and bad eyes.
well Ill be dipped I thought I was the only one who gave a shit about shop safety that's an awesome cabinet you got there great score for free its a high dollar cabinet for sure I use a metal File type cabinet myself no light might change that today though just sayin 👍👍
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Note, once a Li-Ion bat fire starts you're not "putting it out", all you can do is contain it/let it burn out and keep it (the fire heat) from spreading to rest of shop. Note that simple concrete blocks (the kind you build a wall with from Home Depot) make a great "firewall".
I need to look into that. Thanks
Great minds think alike Mike. I purchased that same cabinet in January for the exact same reason. $115 on eBay delivered to my door. I've heard stories of two shops in my area that had a fire due to an overheated battery. I'm wondering if Brent (from Halfass Kustoms) shop fire may have been from a tool battery over heating. Does anyone know? Anyway, thanks again for sharing this tip.
The Flammable liquid cabinets I’ve used have a fusible link so if a fire starts inside the door will close if opened. Your idea may not be the best but it sure beats most ideas of having the charger hanging on the wall or on the table. You’re on the right track.
When the fire department came through for my annual they actually said it was the best solution they had seen to date. Not sure why the door shutting of a fire is sensed would be a bad thing, just another part of the containment
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i love this idea im always concerned about a battery fire with as much cordless tools i have. i do tend to remove the batteries from all my tools and put them back on the rack. i recently had a phone charger catch fire while it was in my hand in my work truck everythign was in good condition no signs of damage just magically went up. I have stopped charging anything that isnt attended.
Amazon sells passive fire extinguishers that activate with heat. Add a couple in your cabinet.
Metal cabinets for lithium batteries are definitely the way to go. Keeping it all contained so it can't spread to anything else is about all you can do when they thermally runaway
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Good idea 👍 I never leave anything on charge overnight for that reason especially lithium batteries but don’t forget you can’t have positive +without negative - 😂😂
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Your instagram post is what prompted me to do this. Bought one off marketplace. Thx for the idea.
Looks like it will work. If all the batteries go in that case better then them being next to a wall or car.
Good idea, i have a gutted out old round top refridgerator, the only flak i cop is from people saying i destroyed a antique refridgerator....
Place a fire sprinkler inside plumbed to a water line and plug into a GFI circuit. A fire sets off the sprinkler then the water trips the GFI. I guess then you need a moisture sensor with bluetoooth to call your cell phone so you don't show up Monday to 3 inches of water in your shop. Thanks for sharing this I need to be more proactive about this and other fire / safety issues in my garage.
Water does not put out chemical fires
Damn good idea. It only takes one half assed fire to cost a guy a lot of money, I’ve always unplugged my chargers at night. One thing I won’t do is buy import replacement batteries, never had a problem.👍
Do you have one large enough to charge a electric vehicle
no, there wont be any EV'S in my shop
F the negative comments, at least you've done something! Insurance or not a fire sets you way back. More people (and the fire codes) should be addressing this. A whole dive boat full off of LA killed alot of people, (camera) battery charging was deemed the root cause.
Don't leave a charged battery in charger when turning on and off as it will shorten life of battery due to amount of charges.
I plug my chargers into a smart plug so the power shuts off after a couple hours.
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