Great visuals as always! I wish that the Toronado and Oldsmobile could have a comeback in some way, kind of like the GMC Hummer EV was. Maybe you could do a Saturn tribute? Even though Saturn didn’t really have exciting cars, it would be nice to go down the history of it.
We think alike. GM could totally bring back Oldsmobile models (along with Pontiac and Saturn) Toronado by GM Grand Am by GM TRANS AM by GM Sky by GM etcetera and they could be serviced at Buick and GMC dealers Just a thought 😌
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person fascinated by Saturn. Even though they weren't around for very long, I do think it's an automotive story worth telling.
@@albertadams2095 Yes exactly! The thing is GM says they still own the trademarks for Pontiac, Saturn, and Oldsmobile, so what are they waiting for? I think it’s just GMs stupid EV program that affects everything, plus how Pontiac and Oldsmobile “dOeSn’T sOuNd RiGhT fOr GeN Z!”
One of my all time favorite cars, the Toronado was always ready to shock you with its unexpected good looks. Love every year of it even if later it wasn't the same.
At one time GM was a Mark of Excellence not anymore unfortunately As always great video Thank You!! A great tribute to Oldsmobile There is a special feel in an Oldsmobile
As soon as I hear the Excellent intro music, I know I'm in for an enjoyable video. In the UK it's hard to imagine a car of that size & with such a Hooj engine. The fact that even a beast like this had disc brakes as options is mindblowing. when we had cars with a quarter of the displacement with disc brakes as standard. I guess people back then liked to glide to a stop, whether they liked it or not.
I enjoy your videos very much, they are car history, but you mix in art and a omage to the past, the Oldsmobile Toronado is my favorite videos especially as you sprinkle in Annie Lennox so delicously! One of my close buddies still has his 1991 Toronado, its a black on black beauty, but underneath its a true American car, not built very well, we all drive high end Japanese cars now, als this is one reason Olds is no more.
Another great episode as always, leaving me feeling passionate, emotional about cars just a little more each time, which i think is TCT's goal. Love Live Tofer's Car Tales.
Thanks! I enjoyed it. My father bought a 1973 Tornado new. It was totally the wrong car for the times! Maybe it could get 7MPG lol at the start of the oil crisis! Dad loved it; I pretended I did but you just couldn’t park that big beast anywhere. The hood was massive, you had to think ahead to turn:)
Your production values are off the hook! As always a riveting montage of sights, sounds, and cultural snippets cunningly curated and presented with wit and style. "Hooker Red." I rest my case. I love Oldsmobiles, I love Toronados, and I loved this video. Thank you!
Simply beautiful my neighbor across the street from my parents home had one I believe it was one of the first in my city San Francisco ca and I remember seeing it for the first time 65 or 66 it had pop head lights black top white exterior he loved that car and so did everyone else he worked at the post office and kept the car until he passed away, believe in the late 1990s but his wife kept the car and if she's still alive, she'd be her mid 80s she was still driving it had a few dents and dings hubcap missing but still driving it
Bravo! My late uncle had a big beige 1976 or 77 toronado which I never got to ride in. It was his retirement gift to himself the gas was too expensive and the car was not practical for him so he traded that car in on a Ford pickup.
Thank you for the video. The 32 minutes was worth it. You put some work into this with the brochures and the information and the details. I liked how you covered the different generations. I did want to add something. You could get the digital gauges with the front bench seat 1990-1992. I own and drive a 1992 Toronado. It has the visual information center and it controls more than the climate control. It also has digital gauges. I swapped the cluster out of my old 1992 Toronado. It went right in and works fine. It is plug and play. I do have the analog cluster I removed here in the house. The 1990-1992 was a vast improvement in many ways. You are correct about the downsized era 1986-1989. Wire wheels did come back as an option in the 1990's. Thank you for the well put together and thought out video. As a Oldsmobile owner of a Ninety Eight and Toronado, I say thank you.
A few years ago, I 3D modelled an 87 Toronado. I felt it was a less represented year for the car, and thanks to your video, I now know that I can't just copy paste my work to make the 91. I'll have to do quite a bit of changes to make that year. Keep it up man. I like seeing other people who are passionate about "meh" cars. The Taurus video remake is great too, reminds me that I have to make some Sables and more Taurus wagons
oh! hooker lipstick red, that took me by surprise. proof Oldsmobile was as creative naming colors as MOPAR. another fantastic video Tofer. your presentations always mesmerize me.
While it is somewhat overlooked compared to the performance cars that Chevy and Pontiac offered, I still contend that the original 1966 Toronado was GM's magnum opus. There isn't a single angle from which this car doesn't look absolutely stunning. And it was so ahead of the curve, engineering-wise, too.
I’ve probably mentioned it already but the Toronado was a ubiquitous vehicle in my neighborhood growing up: my neighbor had two of the 66 models, my next door neighbor had both the large 70s model as well as the downsized 80s model and my other neighbor had a couple of the late 70s/early 80s models. Someone in my current neighborhood has a Toronado in really good condition…I’ll see if I can share a picture of it
Great car. Didn't however understand why Bette Davis ( Baby Jane was years before '66) was in the video... Or, the office worker dancers...? There are so many cool video clips that would match the cool style of that car's era. Interesting account of the Toronado's history clumsily recounted with zero creativity.
Gross to Net hp ratings accounted for a good bit of the roughly 100hp difference in published figures from the 70 to 71 or 72. There actually wasn't such a huge difference in the actual performance of engines (70 & 71) just the way the hp was measured.....but again unleaded fuel and smog did account for some of the swing.
Well, the biggest problem with the Toronado was its "corporate place" opposed to the Riviera. While Oldsmobile started as "creative division" (and 1st gen Toronado was creative for sure), back in 1970's Toronado and Riviera started to go full brougham, and 2nd gen Toronado also became "Eldorado wannabe" for no reason. 4th gen could've been better if had that 1990 look since 1986 - later Toronados were distinctive "sport luxury" for sure, especially without that awful formal roof. And FWD was another limiting factor - as we all know, 1983 Thunderbird became a real hit even if being RWD and using live rear axle.
Growing up in the frigid North Country FWD was not seen as a limiting factor. It along with the FWD Saab 96 were amazing in the snow. The Toronado was extremely innovated for the time.
@@runoflife87 I drove my friend's Toronado in '67 and it definitely was fun and very quick for the time. Virtually no torque steer. America in the sixties had very little experience with FWD except for the Swedish Saab, so not sure where that perspective is coming from. By the eighties a majority of cars had moved to FWD but had small engines to maximize mpg. They definitely were not performance oriented. A big quick V8 FWD was an anomaly.
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1966, one of the most beautiful cars of all time.
Excellent video! The end sequence touched my heart. Oldsmobile! Remembered fondly. Thank you.
Great visuals as always! I wish that the Toronado and Oldsmobile could have a comeback in some way, kind of like the GMC Hummer EV was. Maybe you could do a Saturn tribute? Even though Saturn didn’t really have exciting cars, it would be nice to go down the history of it.
We think alike. GM could totally bring back Oldsmobile models (along with Pontiac and Saturn)
Toronado by GM
Grand Am by GM
TRANS AM by GM
Sky by GM
etcetera
and they could be serviced at Buick and GMC dealers
Just a thought 😌
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person fascinated by Saturn. Even though they weren't around for very long, I do think it's an automotive story worth telling.
@@albertadams2095 Yes exactly! The thing is GM says they still own the trademarks for Pontiac, Saturn, and Oldsmobile, so what are they waiting for? I think it’s just GMs stupid EV program that affects everything, plus how Pontiac and Oldsmobile “dOeSn’T sOuNd RiGhT fOr GeN Z!”
One word: DISTINCTIVE. Same turmoil as the Ford Taurus did in 20 years later ... revolutionary cars 🎉
Genus Tofer!!
Editing, music, flow, vids....Captivating!!!
🎶" _Smoking dope with John Delorean_ "🔊
For sure a tale worth telling, such beautiful cars!
One of my all time favorite cars, the Toronado was always ready to shock you with its unexpected good looks. Love every year of it even if later it wasn't the same.
At one time GM was a Mark of Excellence not anymore unfortunately
As always great video
Thank You!!
A great tribute to Oldsmobile
There is a special feel in an Oldsmobile
As a kid, the first time I heard the name "Oldsmobile" I thought it was pretty funny. =)
Cheers Tofer.
As soon as I hear the Excellent intro music, I know I'm in for an enjoyable video. In the UK it's hard to imagine a car of that size & with such a Hooj engine. The fact that even a beast like this had disc brakes as options is mindblowing. when we had cars with a quarter of the displacement with disc brakes as standard. I guess people back then liked to glide to a stop, whether they liked it or not.
I enjoy your videos very much, they are car history, but you mix in art and a omage to the past, the Oldsmobile Toronado is my favorite videos especially as you sprinkle in Annie Lennox so delicously! One of my close buddies still has his 1991 Toronado, its a black on black beauty, but underneath its a true American car, not built very well, we all drive high end Japanese cars now, als this is one reason Olds is no more.
Tofer-Toronado-Bette Davis=Perfection!!!!
Another great episode as always, leaving me feeling passionate, emotional about cars just a little more each time, which i think is TCT's goal. Love Live Tofer's Car Tales.
Thanks!
I enjoyed it.
My father bought a 1973 Tornado new.
It was totally the wrong car for the times!
Maybe it could get 7MPG lol at the start of the oil crisis!
Dad loved it; I pretended I did but you just couldn’t park that big beast anywhere. The hood was massive, you had to think ahead to turn:)
Your production values are off the hook! As always a riveting montage of sights, sounds, and cultural snippets cunningly curated and presented with wit and style. "Hooker Red." I rest my case. I love Oldsmobiles, I love Toronados, and I loved this video. Thank you!
Tonights bedtime story 😎 Hi from Belfast Northern Ireland
Great video Tofer's & thanks. I had a '66 & a '74 years ago. I like the '72 taillights, just never had one.
Simply beautiful my neighbor across the street from my parents home had one I believe it was one of the first in my city San Francisco ca and I remember seeing it for the first time 65 or 66 it had pop head lights black top white exterior he loved that car and so did everyone else he worked at the post office and kept the car until he passed away, believe in the late 1990s but his wife kept the car and if she's still alive, she'd be her mid 80s she was still driving it had a few dents and dings hubcap missing but still driving it
It has old in the name , that had to be hard to overcome
Bravo! My late uncle had a big beige 1976 or 77 toronado which I never got to ride in. It was his retirement gift to himself the gas was too expensive and the car was not practical for him so he traded that car in on a Ford pickup.
Thank you Mr T, great job as always 👌🏽
Thank you for the video. The 32 minutes was worth it. You put some work into this with the brochures and the information and the details. I liked how you covered the different generations. I did want to add something. You could get the digital gauges with the front bench seat 1990-1992. I own and drive a 1992 Toronado. It has the visual information center and it controls more than the climate control. It also has digital gauges. I swapped the cluster out of my old 1992 Toronado. It went right in and works fine. It is plug and play. I do have the analog cluster I removed here in the house. The 1990-1992 was a vast improvement in many ways. You are correct about the downsized era 1986-1989. Wire wheels did come back as an option in the 1990's. Thank you for the well put together and thought out video. As a Oldsmobile owner of a Ninety Eight and Toronado, I say thank you.
A few years ago, I 3D modelled an 87 Toronado. I felt it was a less represented year for the car, and thanks to your video, I now know that I can't just copy paste my work to make the 91. I'll have to do quite a bit of changes to make that year.
Keep it up man. I like seeing other people who are passionate about "meh" cars. The Taurus video remake is great too, reminds me that I have to make some Sables and more Taurus wagons
oh! hooker lipstick red, that took me by surprise. proof Oldsmobile was as creative naming colors as MOPAR. another fantastic video Tofer. your presentations always mesmerize me.
hmmmm.......It was entertaining, I'll give it that!
Muito bom! Obrigado por compartilhar
The Swan that turned into an ugly duckling .......... So sad . 💘
While it is somewhat overlooked compared to the performance cars that Chevy and Pontiac offered, I still contend that the original 1966 Toronado was GM's magnum opus. There isn't a single angle from which this car doesn't look absolutely stunning. And it was so ahead of the curve, engineering-wise, too.
I’ve probably mentioned it already but the Toronado was a ubiquitous vehicle in my neighborhood growing up: my neighbor had two of the 66 models, my next door neighbor had both the large 70s model as well as the downsized 80s model and my other neighbor had a couple of the late 70s/early 80s models. Someone in my current neighborhood has a Toronado in really good condition…I’ll see if I can share a picture of it
Buick Riviera next.
A banger as always
Oldsmobile was thousand time the vehicle that a Cadillac
Very good video, I just wish that a little reference to the Cadillac Eldorado was made as they were developed in parallel and platform mates.
The Toronado hit the market a year before the Eldorado.
Great car. Didn't however understand why Bette Davis ( Baby Jane was years before '66) was in the video... Or, the office worker dancers...? There are so many cool video clips that would match the cool style of that car's era. Interesting account of the Toronado's history clumsily recounted with zero creativity.
I'll take a 98 Regency sedan (non diesel) and not worry a bit about being outside the cool club.😅
Gross to Net hp ratings accounted for a good bit of the roughly 100hp difference in published figures from the 70 to 71 or 72. There actually wasn't such a huge difference in the actual performance of engines (70 & 71) just the way the hp was measured.....but again unleaded fuel and smog did account for some of the swing.
What was that insert of the lady with the ice cream???
What Ever Happened to Baby Jane
I had no idea the older toronados are FFs! I thought it's an FR, but no.....
Well, the biggest problem with the Toronado was its "corporate place" opposed to the Riviera. While Oldsmobile started as "creative division" (and 1st gen Toronado was creative for sure), back in 1970's Toronado and Riviera started to go full brougham, and 2nd gen Toronado also became "Eldorado wannabe" for no reason. 4th gen could've been better if had that 1990 look since 1986 - later Toronados were distinctive "sport luxury" for sure, especially without that awful formal roof. And FWD was another limiting factor - as we all know, 1983 Thunderbird became a real hit even if being RWD and using live rear axle.
Growing up in the frigid North Country FWD was not seen as a limiting factor. It along with the FWD Saab 96 were amazing in the snow. The Toronado was extremely innovated for the time.
@@cheftomsd well, for some people FWD was seen as "fun factor" limitation, especially in a (half-sporty) coupe.
@@runoflife87 I drove my friend's Toronado in '67 and it definitely was fun and very quick for the time. Virtually no torque steer. America in the sixties had very little experience with FWD except for the Swedish Saab, so not sure where that perspective is coming from.
By the eighties a majority of cars had moved to FWD but had small engines to maximize mpg. They definitely were not performance oriented. A big quick V8 FWD was an anomaly.
11:19 L or R ?
Dude the music and background time matching scenes is frustrating. Just give the history of the vehicle
This could have been a GREAT video but your voice is difficult to listen to. Sorry....just trying to help.
I was having a hard time with the audio as well. Sort of muffled. Might have used a new mike. All his other videos are great!