@@MrBollocks10 only if it’s a grey area. Such as on the battle field. False imprisonment by someone who is definitely not a member of the police or military is just that. The right thing to have done would have been to take pictures of the man’s face and truck and license plate and let him do his job and leave then let the police sort out the legalities. Trapping someone who is not causing risk to life is illegal by anyone other than police. Why do you think security allows shoplifters to leave if they fight being detained? They can ask them to stay but they can’t force them to because it’s illegal.
Business owner wanted to keep the shed he didn’t rent. He thought he could get a free shed and someone else’s credit takes the hit. Wonder how many people he’s screwed over the years.
If he owns a trucking company.... Every driver he's ever employed he's probably screwed.... Most of these shipping companies are like that to their drivers.
@@Funtobuy I’m not so sure he was risking arrest, the repo guy did not have court order. Even though he had the right to repossess based on a civil contract. The police officers successfully verified the paperwork, and informed the ‘concerned citizen’ that they are aloud to grab the shed. If the employee escalated it ANY further after the police verified he had a right to remove the shed he’d go to jail. But up to that point a reasonable person could assume he was just ensuring the rando with a roll off trailer wasn’t stealing a shed. It is definitely gray area though!
@@DozIT not a grey area. He had the paperwork. If the guy closed the gate it would 100% be considered kidnapping. The employee already pretty much admitted to knowing it was up for repossession saying his boss wanted him to schedule picking it up so he could get his stuff out. The employee was borderline going to jail had he closed that gate.
@@30anvz28 no prosecutor would seek a kidnapping charge, he was free to leave at any time (just without his truck) and that was made clear. Not saying no laws were broken, MAYBE could have been arrested and charged for conversion, but no jury would convict him, as within 10 mins of the cops being there the matter was resolved without escalation. The employee was just doing what he was told by his employer - until the cops said you can’t do that. All parties did a decent job here, and even if laws were broken, vicarious liability should be applicable here meaning the employer (not the employee) would have been the one considered liable here.
I bought one of these sheds a few years back. Watching the guy move it with that thing was amazing. I never would've guessed it could lift and move like it does! I tipped the guy 50 bucks because I was so impressed.
Don't tell me that the guy blocking the gate is "just doing his job". He's an idiot, and his boss is an even bigger idiot for telling his guy to do something illegal. Had to laugh when the cops said "that's not how repos work".
In my state preventing someone from leaving is a felony. If it were me, i'd press charges and put him in jail and let him deal with his boss once he got out.
Paying for stuff you'd like to keep works 100% of the time. I'm just saying, it's super effective, and repomen don't come round for things that are paid for. Just my experience....
The arrogance of some people just amazes me....not paying for the shed then claiming he's owed storage because it was on his property. Unreal. You handled it better than I would have!
It’s because apparently the storage yard wasn’t the renter - and they too were charging for the storage of the shed (so they were claiming until that was paid the shed couldn’t leave). Imagine a tow yard has your car and wants you to pay to remove it, the gate opens to let a truck in and you run in too while the gate is open (while yelling ‘I’m so lucky that gate was open just then’), the tow yard employees would also probably close the gate and refuse to let you leave without paying the storage fees they want. In that context - once you know the storage place charging the storage fee wasn’t the renter - it starts to make more sense why they demanded the storage fee be paid before it could leave.
@@ualdayan If that is true, the lienholder should could have paid the fee and tacked it on to what the building renter wanted. Makes sense though, considering it had electric but wasn't hooked up, and the employee wasn't worried about the contents at all.
It was clear he was aloud to leave (without his truck) at any time. I’m not sure false imprisonment includes property. Laws were definitely broken but he was not kidnapped or imprisoned. I think this would fall more under mischief, maybe theft/larceny?
First, it’s “allowed” not “aloud” and kidnapping is when you move someone from a place they are to a place they don’t want to be. The employee along him to leave on foot but blocking in the vehicle is illegal. Not sure what state this is but just look up the false imprisonment law for that state. I know these things because I’m a Private Eye and have had a couple people get froggy and try and box me in. They fucking move quick when you call 911 and tell them you’re being held against your will. The shed driver had the employee tell him on video that “he can’t leave with the truck”. That’s illegal as fuck. You can’t detain someone unless you have their consent or the legal authority to do so. This isn’t “mischief”. And he doesn’t need to be held in an actual cell to be falsely imprisoned. Maybe look up the definition of some laws.
@@DrFunk-hw4kq very sorry for offending you doctor. Since I used the incorrect spelling of “allowed” clearly I have nothing valuable to add to this discussion. According to Google false imprisonment “occurs when a person intentionally restricts another person's movement within any area without legal authority, justification, or the restrained person's permission” I’m not so sure that applies here. You are right it is not mischief either. It seems like conversion is the most applicable law here, definition “Conversion is an intentional tort which occurs when a party takes the chattel property of another with the intent to deprive them of it.” Also - being a “private eye” doesn’t mean anything with regard to knowing the law. It’s like saying a police officer knows the law. Yes there is an expectation that you should know more about the law than an average Joe - if you didn’t go to law school those words alone mean nothing.
Kidnapping is a touchy one. Probably wouldn't fly. If he "forcefully:" detained him, and moved him from one area of the property to another, then it's kidnapping. That didn't happen.
I live in a 5th wheel. My wife and I travel the country in it. Even if we stayed stationary. The 5th wheel is paid off. Lot rent is $400 a month. Water, internet and trash is normally included. All you pay is electricity. So $400 + electricity is a heck of a deal. We make over 140k a year. So think of all the disposable income you would have.
@@mercdragonssounds like a dream to me!! I would live to do what you are doing. My husband and I have a home on 3 acres and have 2 retired gentlemen living in RV's on our property since they have no family to look out for them. Enjoy your adventures!!
@Shadow_Lurker968 I could, but I moved to the country to get away from being crowded by strangers. The men live here free of charge. One helped take care of me in a difficult time in my life. He was a father to me when I was an orphan. The other told me he didn't want to die alone and no one know for weeks or months. He's 73 and going to die here with us, one day.
@@queenEsther318 You're incredible, such hopsitality is rare. Bless you for enriching their lives and offering them community. If only more were like this
I had to deal with something like that. Boss told employee to do something illegal to me. In turn, the employee got arrested. "cuz the boss said"...is not valid in court.
You blow my mind how good you are at this. These sheds always have heavy things spread out to make it seem impossible. Fridge, bundles of shingles or flooring or whatever, assorted junk no problem. I’m so impressed. The moral is pay your shed rental. None of your silly stall tactics will work and they will come and get it if you don’t. Great job. Amazing.
Buy a shed on credit..don’t pay for it..then have the arrogance to keep something that clearly isn’t yours from being taken..where do people get off. Jeez low life’s are so common these days..no morals.
@@xephael3485 everything's gotta be political huh. What's funny is that Trump has done worse. I mean. Pretty sure his family got into big trouble for misusing funds from his own charitable business foundation to the tune of 2 million dollars. But hey. Biden. Am I right?
You are way too nice of a guy! If I had pulled my truck up to the gate and he refused to let me out, I would have definitely pressed charges against him for false imprisonment.
Years ago I had a boss that tried to get me to do something illegal. I refused. I didn’t get fired. But I did quit shortly after. “Just doing what you’re told” isn’t an excuse. Stand up for your morals and integrity. That guy doesn’t think for himself.
Ol' Tubby finally figured it out: open the gate or face charges of kidnapping, false imprisonment and hostage taking. Made the right decision but probably still got fired.Oh well-
Actually no, you can in fact hold someone if they attempt to steal items off your property, and those items would be whatever is in the shed. You are quite deluded if you think otherwise. You would not have been a hostage because you were still free to leave without the contents of the shed. That tiny little detail makes the difference and makes the lot employee in the right, and the repo guy a potential thief. If he had done this a different way, had gotten a court order with a repossession date that was served to the owner, then he could have taken the contents because the owner was given notice when to have it unloaded by that date. If the repo agent had been in contact with the owner and the owner refused to remove contents, again he was given a chance, but in this case, that chance was not given. This can vary by state of course, but few states would consider it kidnapping to prevent a truck from hauling off your possessions in that shed without the owner having a chance to remove them, being given notice of when that had to be done.
@@stinkycheese804 you do not have to give owners a chance to retrieve items at the time of repo, you have to allow them to schedule a time to regain their possessions in a reasonable timeframe after the repossessed item is secured at the lot. They want contents removed before repo because then theres less liability for their insurance company if something is damaged in transport or stolen. No he was not held hostage, but he was imprisoned. Now theres no use in any lawsuit for 20 minutes of wasted time... But legally he has a case against fatboy if he wants to take it to civil court and claim his rights were violated. I doubt the state would pursue criminal charges for this situation, not worth taxpayer money. You have a legal right to detain someone committing a crime, but you better be damn sure that there is a crime and he is the one doing it because you do not have qualified immunity against false imprisonment like cops do. Youll find your butt in civil court with lawsuit for civil rights violation and you dont have a police dpt to pay for that settlement. Like i already said he wasnt preventing a theft, the repo does not have to remove personal belongings at time of repossession in ANY state
Having employees that will risk everything, even arrest or a lawsuit for loyalty to their boss is awesome and benefits the boss entirely and keeps his hands clean.
Wrong. It does not keep his hands clean. Lol. The employee is doing what the boss directed him to do. The boss is 100% liable for the employee’s actions.
@@karennoble3795 Thanks, we’re rewriting the US Constitution and all laws globally based on your answer and you’ve a live podcast beginning tonight on ethics and legality of employees acting on behalf of business owners. Congrats and best of luck! You made a difference.
@@karennoble3795 Can you prove that the boss directed him to do it? Any good lawyer would be able to get the boss off scot free unless there is recording. Like for example hotel cleaner steals pills from a guest's room, and when caught says 'boss told me to take em' to shift blame. Sure, you can practically claim anything, but without proof it ultimately won't stick. Whatever the case, it won't really save em anyways. At the end of the day, it's the cleaner who committed the crime, not the boss. If there is proof the cleaner did it on orders the boss can also be charged ofc, but that still wouldn't absolve the employee...
@@N0xiety THIS, is where the police investigation comes in. They legally then have the power to search text messages, recover phone conversations from the provider, any form of communication you used is subject to search for the investigation. If you were the boss, and said to do such a thing, and the employee obeyed, that can be admitted into evidence and used against you proving you were involved.
I've watched dozens of your videos, but this was absolutely the best. Kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time! I hope you change your mind and continue repoing and making videos. You're the best.
If People Insist on getting one of these things, PAY CASH and PAY IT OFF at time of Purchase and DO NOT Rent Them Or Make Monthly Payments!... A 15,000 Shed by the time you Pay it off, will Cost just Under 30,000 .... Or have one built of same size for Almost Half the 15,000....
No not at all. For example I just looked at 3 websites..all the same deal..building is about 7500..payments are 336x36 months equaling about 5k for financing it. So closer to about 20k for a 15k shed not double. If you're working class or low income with 2 checks coming in and no credit or bad credit I'd say 5k for financing something isn't bad. No different than people paying 600 to 1k a month plus full coverage to have a new car...if you need it and you can afford the monthly but not afford to eat your entire savings it makes far more sense to finance it. Most companies have no early payment penalties so just better advice is pay everything extra you can on top of monthly to reduce that 5k as much as possible.
I admire your infinite patience with your "kidnapper". And you were so understanding - getting that he was in the middle of something that really wasn't his problem and basically being forced to be loyal to his employer. Well handled! And it showed that yelling and screaming only prolongs the process AND creates potentially dangerous situations. One of the best repo videos I've seen!
Willing to go to jail on multiple felonies, including grand theft semi truck and kidnapping, for your boss. Now THAT'S dedication that the damn kids need to learn.
Just remember, you have a USDOT number, what he is doing is called interference with interstate commerce, which is a federal crime, don ever let them push you around, keep up the good work!!!
i seen this is my feed the other day. went back to try and watch it after my shower, and thought for sure i was going nuts thank you for the uploads! also the way the guy tried to say there is a "storage fee" lmao
"Just" doing what your boss tells you, is not an excuse to willfully commit a crime. If you kidnap someone because your boss tells you to, you could be convicted of kidnapping. The boss might be convicted as an accessory, accomplice, or co-conspirator. People, be careful "just doing" your job!
@@benjurqunov Incorrect. He was held against his will. By detaining someone's property, you are detaining the individual. Telling him he could leave, but not with the property he had legally loaded up onto his truck was detaining him against his will. That meets the elements of kidnapping/false improsonment of the Model Penal Code. Moving the person is not a required element of the crime. Unlawfully preventing them from moving where they are entitled to go is enough.
@@daveduncan2748 Incorrect, he was not being held against his will. His will is to leave with nothing more than he came with, and he was free to do that. You have no idea of the law if you think that if you don't prevent thieves from coming onto your property, that you are then obligated to let them leave with whatever they can haul off. That's madness. Again, you are not preventing him from leaving. He was told this in the first place and had the opportunity to leave just as he came, without the contents of the shed. He did have a right to take the shed with him but not the contents inside without allowing the owner the opportunity to remove those contents first.
@@stinkycheese804 You are under the misunderstanding that repossessors are thieves. It is quite the opposite. The person who promised to pay for the item, via contract, and failed to do so, yet wants to retain the item, is the thief. The repossessor is the legal agent of the rightful owner and is legally securing the rightful owner's property. The person blocking the gate was neither the owner of the land nor the property being repossessed. It the end, he did what he was always legally required to do--let the repossessor take the shed. That's why he had to do just that when the police came. Before letting him leave with the property, he was illegally detaining the property entrusted to the owner's agent (repossessor), thus detaining the owner's agent himself. That's false imprisonment. He was very fortunate that neither the repossessor nor the cop was interested in pressing charges. It could have been very ugly for him.
Unreal people don't make their payments and they think that they have the right to keep it just blows my mind crazy stuff you you should get paid for an argument I used to charge an extra $50 years ago for an argument
Josh, I absolutely love how you handled this situation! I’m enjoying how this guy is making a complete jerk of himself. Nice job Josh. Love your channel. 😊
@@benjurqunov buddy is wilding 😭 kidnapping is "an unlawful restraint of a person's liberty" I have personally known someone who successfully got someone convicted with kidnapping because they locked a door, preventing them from leaving. (it was a public building, not a private residence) Closing a gate to prevent someone from leaving is legally considered kidnapping. Check your case law before being an armchair warrior bud 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@TheGingerKid2017 no the sleezy owner told his employee to tell him there’s a bill owed for “storage fees” because he parked his rig on their property. He tried to play a uno reverso 😅😂
Hi Josh, that’s the craziest one you’ve ever done is. Lucky you didn’t get locked up for holding you hostage absolute craziness anyway keep up the good work always enjoy the videos , Cliff from Logan City Queensland Australia
@@bishopkinlyside8477 I'd say the craziest one was the one with an armed standoff. This one just had an idiot without intent of violence. I'd consider the idocy to be typical, its when malicious intent or violence gets involved that I'd call it crazy!
First he gave excuse, have to schedule a removal. Now the shed owes back rent. Well, that's a debt with owner of shed. Shed legally is still leaving. 😂
@@beautramp3447 OMG someone else who remembers OCC! Paul Teutel Sr. is nothing but a hot mess these days. Fame and fortune (not to mention family infighting and greed) was not kind to him. He's a Florida Man now!!
That guy closing the gate is stupid. You can't lockup someone and their property just because you feel like it. He needs to be sued and lose everything.
Josh I thought you had sold your mule and gotten out of the business from an earlier farewell video I saw. But since it appears you've come back, then I'll come back and keep watching. 👀
He's been back doing repos part time for a while. He is working for someone and if I remember right he is using their equipment. He explained it in another video quite a while back.
I used to repo moblehome . Back in the 70s and 80s. It was a riot. Had guns pulled dogs told to attack. We always got the trailer we were sent to get it was a hard fun interesting job. Lots of police called but we had the papers. We won those conflicts.
You are so much fun to watch! I wish I had half the patience you do. Your ability to stay cool, calm, collected, and even empathetic in situations like this make you a modern day super hero!
put him in jail. let the boss stand in the way. that is literally KIDNAPPING> he doesn't care about you, so why care about him. AND he is costing you $$$. Who is paying for your time while you are sitting around.
This is the first time I’ve ever seen Josh loose his cool. I was wondering if he ever would with all the crap he has to put up with from some people. Still you handle things more calmly than I would. You’re awesome.
I've made it my life mission to teach the world how to spell *lose. L o s e. Lose, lost, loss, losing, loses, losses, and loser. See how they're all spelled with one 'O'?
Totally amazing how one person can move this shed and put it on the truck. I’m impressed
@@suehorn4182 Right tools for the job... Tools I didn't know existed, but the right ones!
My dad moved a 2 BR mobile home without help using some telephone poles that were on his property. He was in his 70's I was amazed at his ingenuity.
@@rjay7019 them old guys can make a rocket ship out of baling wire and rusty piece of tin
@@tonyking3125 For real! He told me they once used molasses on a clutch plate to keep it from slipping! 😆
You should watch the video where he repos a front deck!
Being told to commit a crime by your boss, doesn't exempt you from being prosecuted.
@@victomeyezr like when the cops say "I'm just following orders"
@@carma459 yup, same
Are you sure?
I thought just following orders was a well trodden defense.
cops do it all the time, they never get prosecuted.
@@MrBollocks10 only if it’s a grey area. Such as on the battle field. False imprisonment by someone who is definitely not a member of the police or military is just that. The right thing to have done would have been to take pictures of the man’s face and truck and license plate and let him do his job and leave then let the police sort out the legalities. Trapping someone who is not causing risk to life is illegal by anyone other than police. Why do you think security allows shoplifters to leave if they fight being detained? They can ask them to stay but they can’t force them to because it’s illegal.
That’s insane, risk possible jail for a shed you don’t own.
And haven't rented either.
@@resurrectiongarage1506 he doesn't own it. It's his bosses
@@danieltindall1998 his boss only rents it. Pay the rent and the shed stays. Default on the rent and the shed goes. Simple.
@danieltindall1998 no it's not his bosses have u not watched the video that's Josh's shed and Josh took it back😂😂😂
no he is not risking jail when he is LEGALY repoing the shed the owner has not paid for
Business owner wanted to keep the shed he didn’t rent. He thought he could get a free shed and someone else’s credit takes the hit. Wonder how many people he’s screwed over the years.
from the number of trucks sitting around, hundreds. those trucks dont make money just sitting there.
If he owns a trucking company.... Every driver he's ever employed he's probably screwed.... Most of these shipping companies are like that to their drivers.
Hadn't thought of it like that.
All their stuff inside that shed will come out of his check .
@@benjamin5028 no, no it wont.
That employee is not too bright. Risk possible arrest over someone else's shed.
Aka patsy
@@Funtobuy I’m not so sure he was risking arrest, the repo guy did not have court order. Even though he had the right to repossess based on a civil contract. The police officers successfully verified the paperwork, and informed the ‘concerned citizen’ that they are aloud to grab the shed.
If the employee escalated it ANY further after the police verified he had a right to remove the shed he’d go to jail. But up to that point a reasonable person could assume he was just ensuring the rando with a roll off trailer wasn’t stealing a shed.
It is definitely gray area though!
@@DozIT not a grey area. He had the paperwork. If the guy closed the gate it would 100% be considered kidnapping.
The employee already pretty much admitted to knowing it was up for repossession saying his boss wanted him to schedule picking it up so he could get his stuff out. The employee was borderline going to jail had he closed that gate.
@@30anvz28 no prosecutor would seek a kidnapping charge, he was free to leave at any time (just without his truck) and that was made clear. Not saying no laws were broken, MAYBE could have been arrested and charged for conversion, but no jury would convict him, as within 10 mins of the cops being there the matter was resolved without escalation. The employee was just doing what he was told by his employer - until the cops said you can’t do that.
All parties did a decent job here, and even if laws were broken, vicarious liability should be applicable here meaning the employer (not the employee) would have been the one considered liable here.
Maybe you should tell it to the cops they do this type of shit every day
An honorable man would never place an employee in that position. His boss is a real POS.
Matt. What is POS? Seriously. I've never heard of it.
@@jameswahnee-vn5nt POS stands for piece of shit 😀
@@jameswahnee-vn5nt it means Piece Of Sh*t
@@jameswahnee-vn5nt person of shame.
@@jameswahnee-vn5nt it means "piece of shit"
I bought one of these sheds a few years back. Watching the guy move it with that thing was amazing. I never would've guessed it could lift and move like it does! I tipped the guy 50 bucks because I was so impressed.
This man does not have to do what his boss says if it is illegal.
@@cynthiacarter514 he doesn't have to do anything whether it's legal or not
Probably his shed. That's why he disappeared and then came back with the story of storage fees on it
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And then next week he would be fired for being 10 minutes late.
Should have pressed criminal charges for unlawful restraint, and or kidnapping.
for sure also sued as will since he broke the law & tell the judge he sure be fired by force ASAP with no pay & now homeless cuz of what he did
Don't tell me that the guy blocking the gate is "just doing his job". He's an idiot, and his boss is an even bigger idiot for telling his guy to do something illegal. Had to laugh when the cops said "that's not how repos work".
In my state preventing someone from leaving is a felony. If it were me, i'd press charges and put him in jail and let him deal with his boss once he got out.
It was a FRUSTRATING situation, .... But YOU kept calm, remained respectful at all times !!! That says a LOT about YOU as a man 👌👍👍👍👍👍
Your boss pays your pay check. But you go to jail for kidnapping.
I love how you politely just keep going about your business.
"the owner of the business really wanted to keep the building"... have they try paying for it? usually it works
Right?! 😂😂😂
Anyone want to take bets this business took government loans and will be folding soon?
THEY LEARNED IT " FROM DADDY DON " !!!
Paying for stuff you'd like to keep works 100% of the time. I'm just saying, it's super effective, and repomen don't come round for things that are paid for. Just my experience....
@@bobw7018 I've seen repo people take stuff that's been paid for and it usually doesn't end up well for the people who hired them...
The arrogance of some people just amazes me....not paying for the shed then claiming he's owed storage because it was on his property. Unreal. You handled it better than I would have!
how many assaults and felonies do you have?
@@soulsreaper7145More than you buttercup
@soulsreaper7145 not enough. Maybe someday people will learn actions have consequences
That guy actually thought the cops would side with him? 🤭
It’s because apparently the storage yard wasn’t the renter - and they too were charging for the storage of the shed (so they were claiming until that was paid the shed couldn’t leave). Imagine a tow yard has your car and wants you to pay to remove it, the gate opens to let a truck in and you run in too while the gate is open (while yelling ‘I’m so lucky that gate was open just then’), the tow yard employees would also probably close the gate and refuse to let you leave without paying the storage fees they want. In that context - once you know the storage place charging the storage fee wasn’t the renter - it starts to make more sense why they demanded the storage fee be paid before it could leave.
@@ualdayan that guy made that bullshit up on the spot and you spun it into quite the story lol
@@smokemadbuds991 No, watch to the end and you even see text overlaid saying that place was not the renter.
@@ualdayan If that is true, the lienholder should could have paid the fee and tacked it on to what the building renter wanted. Makes sense though, considering it had electric but wasn't hooked up, and the employee wasn't worried about the contents at all.
"My boss owns this property."
"And my boss OWNS this shed."
That's False Imprisonment. It's a 15 year felony and it doesn't have to be for any certain amount of time.
It was clear he was aloud to leave (without his truck) at any time. I’m not sure false imprisonment includes property. Laws were definitely broken but he was not kidnapped or imprisoned. I think this would fall more under mischief, maybe theft/larceny?
First, it’s “allowed” not “aloud” and kidnapping is when you move someone from a place they are to a place they don’t want to be. The employee along him to leave on foot but blocking in the vehicle is illegal. Not sure what state this is but just look up the false imprisonment law for that state. I know these things because I’m a Private Eye and have had a couple people get froggy and try and box me in. They fucking move quick when you call 911 and tell them you’re being held against your will. The shed driver had the employee tell him on video that “he can’t leave with the truck”. That’s illegal as fuck. You can’t detain someone unless you have their consent or the legal authority to do so. This isn’t “mischief”. And he doesn’t need to be held in an actual cell to be falsely imprisoned. Maybe look up the definition of some laws.
@@DrFunk-hw4kq very sorry for offending you doctor. Since I used the incorrect spelling of “allowed” clearly I have nothing valuable to add to this discussion. According to Google false imprisonment “occurs when a person intentionally restricts another person's movement within any area without legal authority, justification, or the restrained person's permission”
I’m not so sure that applies here. You are right it is not mischief either. It seems like conversion is the most applicable law here, definition “Conversion is an intentional tort which occurs when a party takes the chattel property of another with the intent to deprive them of it.”
Also - being a “private eye” doesn’t mean anything with regard to knowing the law. It’s like saying a police officer knows the law. Yes there is an expectation that you should know more about the law than an average Joe - if you didn’t go to law school those words alone mean nothing.
@@DozITALLOWED
@@matthewcarl6079 what a tool
I am amazed at how you are able to move the massive shed around. Such an art. Remote control? AMAZING.
It's remarkaballs.
@@alexrodgers9247 whoever designed that is a genius
I'm a retired lady & I love watching your video's ! I have a rent to own building & I love it ! It's been paid off for year's ! Lol
@@alexrodgers9247 glad I wasnt the only one thinking about how cool his equipment is lol
Control arm. That is famous in tech industry…
Kidnapping is a felony.
It’s not kidnapping folks. Calm down.
Restraining against your will...kidnapping😊@@EliasVoorhees
That would actually be forcible confinement.
@@karenklucas923 in Florida, that would be"False Imprisonment", not kidnapping.
Kidnapping is a touchy one. Probably wouldn't fly. If he "forcefully:" detained him, and moved him from one area of the property to another, then it's kidnapping. That didn't happen.
When you rent a shed or finance it, you sign a contract that states that failure to pay they can come to your property and repossess it.
They do. But sounds like on someone else’s property than renter.
Duh
They can try
Correct and to make it super legal most file a UCC form with the government
@@bryanfreeman4043
So then it's possession of stolen property.......
You are the nicest repo man I've ever seen.
$10 says the worthless employee lives in that camper.
I live in a 5th wheel. My wife and I travel the country in it. Even if we stayed stationary. The 5th wheel is paid off. Lot rent is $400 a month. Water, internet and trash is normally included. All you pay is electricity.
So $400 + electricity is a heck of a deal. We make over 140k a year. So think of all the disposable income you would have.
@@mercdragonssounds like a dream to me!! I would live to do what you are doing. My husband and I have a home on 3 acres and have 2 retired gentlemen living in RV's on our property since they have no family to look out for them. Enjoy your adventures!!
Acting like a Junk Yard Dog, that day!
@Shadow_Lurker968 I could, but I moved to the country to get away from being crowded by strangers. The men live here free of charge. One helped take care of me in a difficult time in my life. He was a father to me when I was an orphan. The other told me he didn't want to die alone and no one know for weeks or months. He's 73 and going to die here with us, one day.
@@queenEsther318 You're incredible, such hopsitality is rare. Bless you for enriching their lives and offering them community. If only more were like this
Tubby boy needs lessons in reasoning and logic LOL "f I wasn't here the gate would be closed!" " You owe us for storing the shed!" LMAO
You can’t fix stupid
"I got to do what my boss tells me to do he signs my paycheck"
Dumbest excuse ever for going to prison.....
Would he have paid for his employee's lawyer? I think not!
@@rescueteam6706 Why heck no!
@@1456Sassy I think he would have said "YOU DID WHAT" your fired.
I had to deal with something like that. Boss told employee to do something illegal to me. In turn, the employee got arrested. "cuz the boss said"...is not valid in court.
Just following orders.
You blow my mind how good you are at this. These sheds always have heavy things spread out to make it seem impossible. Fridge, bundles of shingles or flooring or whatever, assorted junk no problem. I’m so impressed. The moral is pay your shed rental. None of your silly stall tactics will work and they will come and get it if you don’t. Great job. Amazing.
Buy a shed on credit..don’t pay for it..then have the arrogance to keep something that clearly isn’t yours from being taken..where do people get off. Jeez low life’s are so common these days..no morals.
Biden voters
@@xephael3485 Look in the mirror guy. Low life’s are so common these days..no morals.
@@xephael3485 everything's gotta be political huh.
What's funny is that Trump has done worse. I mean. Pretty sure his family got into big trouble for misusing funds from his own charitable business foundation to the tune of 2 million dollars.
But hey. Biden. Am I right?
"MAGA ... REPUBLCAN VOTERS " !!!
There's people like this on both sides. A person's morality has absolutely nothing to do with their voting choice.
You are way too nice of a guy! If I had pulled my truck up to the gate and he refused to let me out, I would have definitely pressed charges against him for false imprisonment.
Refrigerator still standing... That is something.
LOL The Toledo officer tells the employee "that's not how repo works" when he said an appointment was needed to pick up the shed.
That guy ought to be concerned about working for a deadbeat. If he doesn’t pay his shed bills he probably won’t pay his employees either.
The way you deal with situations like this I look up to. Your parents did one hell of a job raising you!
I've never seen a shed repossessed before. This was fascinating to watch.
Years ago I had a boss that tried to get me to do something illegal. I refused. I didn’t get fired. But I did quit shortly after.
“Just doing what you’re told” isn’t an excuse. Stand up for your morals and integrity. That guy doesn’t think for himself.
Ol' Tubby finally figured it out: open the gate or face charges of kidnapping, false imprisonment and hostage taking. Made the right decision but probably still got fired.Oh well-
@@ogarvin7064 I would be scared 2 work for a company getting stuff repossessed!!
Actually no, you can in fact hold someone if they attempt to steal items off your property, and those items would be whatever is in the shed. You are quite deluded if you think otherwise.
You would not have been a hostage because you were still free to leave without the contents of the shed. That tiny little detail makes the difference and makes the lot employee in the right, and the repo guy a potential thief.
If he had done this a different way, had gotten a court order with a repossession date that was served to the owner, then he could have taken the contents because the owner was given notice when to have it unloaded by that date. If the repo agent had been in contact with the owner and the owner refused to remove contents, again he was given a chance, but in this case, that chance was not given. This can vary by state of course, but few states would consider it kidnapping to prevent a truck from hauling off your possessions in that shed without the owner having a chance to remove them, being given notice of when that had to be done.
@@teriguerin8371 actually we have no idea, since none of us know the state this happened in so we cant actually come to any conclusion.
@@stinkycheese804 you do not have to give owners a chance to retrieve items at the time of repo, you have to allow them to schedule a time to regain their possessions in a reasonable timeframe after the repossessed item is secured at the lot. They want contents removed before repo because then theres less liability for their insurance company if something is damaged in transport or stolen.
No he was not held hostage, but he was imprisoned. Now theres no use in any lawsuit for 20 minutes of wasted time... But legally he has a case against fatboy if he wants to take it to civil court and claim his rights were violated. I doubt the state would pursue criminal charges for this situation, not worth taxpayer money. You have a legal right to detain someone committing a crime, but you better be damn sure that there is a crime and he is the one doing it because you do not have qualified immunity against false imprisonment like cops do. Youll find your butt in civil court with lawsuit for civil rights violation and you dont have a police dpt to pay for that settlement. Like i already said he wasnt preventing a theft, the repo does not have to remove personal belongings at time of repossession in ANY state
Oh wow, it's remote controlled. AWESOME
If i were that employee, id find a new job, your boss has no money!!!! lol
Having employees that will risk everything, even arrest or a lawsuit for loyalty to their boss is awesome and benefits the boss entirely and keeps his hands clean.
Wrong. It does not keep his hands clean. Lol. The employee is doing what the boss directed him to do. The boss is 100% liable for the employee’s actions.
@@karennoble3795 Thanks, we’re rewriting the US Constitution and all laws globally based on your answer and you’ve a live podcast beginning tonight on ethics and legality of employees acting on behalf of business owners. Congrats and best of luck! You made a difference.
@@karennoble3795 Can you prove that the boss directed him to do it? Any good lawyer would be able to get the boss off scot free unless there is recording. Like for example hotel cleaner steals pills from a guest's room, and when caught says 'boss told me to take em' to shift blame. Sure, you can practically claim anything, but without proof it ultimately won't stick.
Whatever the case, it won't really save em anyways. At the end of the day, it's the cleaner who committed the crime, not the boss. If there is proof the cleaner did it on orders the boss can also be charged ofc, but that still wouldn't absolve the employee...
@@karennoble3795 just like the name suggests loud and wrong karen
@@N0xiety THIS, is where the police investigation comes in. They legally then have the power to search text messages, recover phone conversations from the provider, any form of communication you used is subject to search for the investigation. If you were the boss, and said to do such a thing, and the employee obeyed, that can be admitted into evidence and used against you proving you were involved.
Stay safe, it's a dangerous job, Josh.
@@Hosty_Tim will do
I love the guy saying. "I'm not holding you hostage. You can go around the gate. Just not the truck. "
That machine you use to move sheds are amazing. As well that guys not to bright, clearly he's a yes man
I've watched dozens of your videos, but this was absolutely the best. Kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time!
I hope you change your mind and continue repoing and making videos. You're the best.
If People Insist on getting one of these things, PAY CASH and PAY IT OFF at time of Purchase and DO NOT Rent Them Or Make Monthly Payments!... A 15,000 Shed by the time you Pay it off, will Cost just Under 30,000 .... Or have one built of same size for Almost Half the 15,000....
No not at all. For example I just looked at 3 websites..all the same deal..building is about 7500..payments are 336x36 months equaling about 5k for financing it. So closer to about 20k for a 15k shed not double. If you're working class or low income with 2 checks coming in and no credit or bad credit I'd say 5k for financing something isn't bad. No different than people paying 600 to 1k a month plus full coverage to have a new car...if you need it and you can afford the monthly but not afford to eat your entire savings it makes far more sense to finance it. Most companies have no early payment penalties so just better advice is pay everything extra you can on top of monthly to reduce that 5k as much as possible.
I cannot even fathom paying that much money for a damn shed. Totally insane.
The whole "I am just following orders" defense will always fail when the order is illegal.
I cant imagine being detained like that. Just crazy. Good to see you werent in any real danger or trouble
I admire your infinite patience with your "kidnapper".
And you were so understanding - getting that he was in the middle of something that really wasn't his problem and basically being forced to be loyal to his employer.
Well handled!
And it showed that yelling and screaming only prolongs the process AND creates potentially dangerous situations.
One of the best repo videos I've seen!
It sounds like the business owner rented the shed and then rented it to someone else without paying for it.
WHAT A TUFF JOB YOU DO, SO BE SAFE, A LOT OF CRAZY PEOPLE OUT IN THIS WORLD.
Great video. I thought something was fishy. Then, at the end, you said the boss didn't rent the shed. Makes sense why he wanted it!
In Canada it is called unlawful confinement.
@@John-pn7bh in Canada the whole country is being confined by a communist dictator
You really have some great equipment to work with! Interesting that the boss so freely asks his employees to break the law.
Great job and professionalism in handling the situation Josh!
Willing to go to jail on multiple felonies, including grand theft semi truck and kidnapping, for your boss. Now THAT'S dedication that the damn kids need to learn.
Just remember, you have a USDOT number, what he is doing is called interference with interstate commerce, which is a federal crime, don ever let them push you around, keep up the good work!!!
The owner of the land was gonna try to put a lien on the shed and keep it
You said it. He is impeding your legal travel so have him fined or arrested.
i seen this is my feed the other day. went back to try and watch it after my shower, and thought for sure i was going nuts thank you for the uploads! also the way the guy tried to say there is a "storage fee" lmao
Learn how to write English before you comment and do you think we really need to know or care that you took a shower?
"Just" doing what your boss tells you, is not an excuse to willfully commit a crime. If you kidnap someone because your boss tells you to, you could be convicted of kidnapping. The boss might be convicted as an accessory, accomplice, or co-conspirator. People, be careful "just doing" your job!
That's not kidnapping.
Repo man wasn't held against his will or unwillingly taken somewhere.
@@benjurqunov Incorrect. He was held against his will. By detaining someone's property, you are detaining the individual. Telling him he could leave, but not with the property he had legally loaded up onto his truck was detaining him against his will. That meets the elements of kidnapping/false improsonment of the Model Penal Code. Moving the person is not a required element of the crime. Unlawfully preventing them from moving where they are entitled to go is enough.
@@daveduncan2748 Incorrect, he was not being held against his will. His will is to leave with nothing more than he came with, and he was free to do that.
You have no idea of the law if you think that if you don't prevent thieves from coming onto your property, that you are then obligated to let them leave with whatever they can haul off. That's madness.
Again, you are not preventing him from leaving. He was told this in the first place and had the opportunity to leave just as he came, without the contents of the shed. He did have a right to take the shed with him but not the contents inside without allowing the owner the opportunity to remove those contents first.
@@stinkycheese804 You are under the misunderstanding that repossessors are thieves. It is quite the opposite. The person who promised to pay for the item, via contract, and failed to do so, yet wants to retain the item, is the thief. The repossessor is the legal agent of the rightful owner and is legally securing the rightful owner's property. The person blocking the gate was neither the owner of the land nor the property being repossessed. It the end, he did what he was always legally required to do--let the repossessor take the shed. That's why he had to do just that when the police came. Before letting him leave with the property, he was illegally detaining the property entrusted to the owner's agent (repossessor), thus detaining the owner's agent himself. That's false imprisonment. He was very fortunate that neither the repossessor nor the cop was interested in pressing charges. It could have been very ugly for him.
@@daveduncan2748 the repo man was unwilling to show any paperwork, for all op knew he was just stealing it.
Unreal people don't make their payments and they think that they have the right to keep it just blows my mind crazy stuff you you should get paid for an argument I used to charge an extra $50 years ago for an argument
Josh, I absolutely love how you handled this situation! I’m enjoying how this guy is making a complete jerk of himself. Nice job Josh. Love your channel. 😊
that's considered kidnapping, you can press charges for kidnapping on that guy
Not kidnapping.
The repo guy wasn't in any way threatened and could simply walk away if he wanted to.
@@benjurqunov in most states, blocking your vehicle to prevent escape is considered kidnapping.
@@syde
Lol. Try again.
Kidnapping requires force or threat to move an unwilling person to another location.
That repoman was in no way kidnapped.
@@benjurqunov buddy is wilding 😭 kidnapping is "an unlawful restraint of a person's liberty"
I have personally known someone who successfully got someone convicted with kidnapping because they locked a door, preventing them from leaving. (it was a public building, not a private residence)
Closing a gate to prevent someone from leaving is legally considered kidnapping.
Check your case law before being an armchair warrior bud 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
The cop takes a look at some numbers written in pen ink and says, "Yep, that's good enough for me." Nice.
I'd want charges filed on the guy...... You cannot hinder people leaving.
The employee doesn't realize this is stark contrast to him not receiving a check from his boss
Glad to see you got out ok and this person is now known by what they did to police.
Good for you Josh!
You can legally drive thru his gate. This is wrongful imprisonment
@@WhiteTornadoGaming that may be, but I wouldn't wanna mess up that big rig
Man never learns !! Following orders is NOT an excuse !!
A whole bunch of Nazis found that out at Nuremberg.
@@ringstinga but it's always the first one used🤣
Amazing how how you have to deal with thieves on everything anymore
False Imprisonment, Shouldve Had Him Arrested.
i would have told those cops :he held me against my will, and i would like him charged"
“There’s a bill owed on that shed” absolutely is, and it’s not paid, thus the reason it’s being taken.
@@TheGingerKid2017 no the sleezy owner told his employee to tell him there’s a bill owed for “storage fees” because he parked his rig on their property. He tried to play a uno reverso 😅😂
Very interesting on how the shed was loaded. Wondered all this time. Remarkable!
Hi Josh, that’s the craziest one you’ve ever done is. Lucky you didn’t get locked up for holding you hostage absolute craziness anyway keep up the good work always enjoy the videos , Cliff from Logan City Queensland Australia
Thank you Cliff
@@bishopkinlyside8477 I'd say the craziest one was the one with an armed standoff. This one just had an idiot without intent of violence. I'd consider the idocy to be typical, its when malicious intent or violence gets involved that I'd call it crazy!
First he gave excuse, have to schedule a removal. Now the shed owes back rent. Well, that's a debt with owner of shed. Shed legally is still leaving. 😂
Love your new truck. Whew.
Isn't that Paul Sr. from Orange County Choppers? I wondered what he's up to.
😂
Big daddy is an idiot.
Nope, this guy is way too fat and wimpy. LOL Paul has his own YT channel now, "Paul Sr Unchained".
@@beautramp3447 OMG someone else who remembers OCC! Paul Teutel Sr. is nothing but a hot mess these days. Fame and fortune (not to mention family infighting and greed) was not kind to him. He's a Florida Man now!!
@@tumbleweed39everyone ends up in FL. Think if if as a first wave of Heaven. lol.
You are a master at loading those sheds ! Pretty Darn Cool!
That guy closing the gate is stupid. You can't lockup someone and their property just because you feel like it. He needs to be sued and lose everything.
I’ve never seen a shed repossessed. This was epic!
Josh I thought you had sold your mule and gotten out of the business from an earlier farewell video I saw. But since it appears you've come back, then I'll come back and keep watching. 👀
He's been back doing repos part time for a while. He is working for someone and if I remember right he is using their equipment. He explained it in another video quite a while back.
Yes he's been back for a long time
harley boy looks like the type to ride his "hawg" at 10 under the limit then get upset when overtaken...
I used to repo moblehome . Back in the 70s and 80s. It was a riot. Had guns pulled dogs told to attack. We always got the trailer we were sent to get it was a hard fun interesting job. Lots of police called but we had the papers. We won those conflicts.
The cop was just as surprised as me like you can repo a shed
That's crazy.
You sure put up with a lot of stuff. You have lots of patience. God bless you.
Love watching. You are so professional.
Repo a shed? That is amazing.... I never thought I'd see a whole building like that get yanked.
If you cant't even afford to pay for a shed, why are you even buying the darn thing?
For the cost of renting one you might as well buy one.
Dude should have gone to JAIL.
Dude came very close to a kidnapping charge, time to look for a new boss
Dudes just hatin homie pulled up into their lot with a beautiful Peterbilt. Big rig envy 😅
Josh got kidnapped ...lol they wouldn't have kept you too long once there grocery bill went up...
False imprisonment... Not kidnapping...
Sarah just might charge to take him back.
You are so much fun to watch! I wish I had half the patience you do. Your ability to stay cool, calm, collected, and even empathetic in situations like this make you a modern day super hero!
put him in jail. let the boss stand in the way. that is literally KIDNAPPING> he doesn't care about you, so why care about him. AND he is costing you $$$. Who is paying for your time while you are sitting around.
This is the first time I’ve ever seen Josh loose his cool. I was wondering if he ever would with all the crap he has to put up with from some people. Still you handle things more calmly than I would. You’re awesome.
I've made it my life mission to teach the world how to spell *lose. L o s e. Lose, lost, loss, losing, loses, losses, and loser. See how they're all spelled with one 'O'?
"Loose" means something is loose. Like loose-fitting clothes, or that bolt is loose, or this ring on my finger is loose and keeps falling off.
The mouth breathing was strong with this one. Glad you survived. Seemed at one point he considered you lunch
In TX. HE is holding you hostage that is a felony.
The moving company guy must be making some kick ass money.
Easily over $200k in the truck, trailer and mule.
Sorry he put u thru all that stress. I was so upset with him .u were so kool.😊