In Gerard’s defence.. Carlton only narrowly lost to Sydney by 52 points in round 10. De Koning was in All Australian form with a massive 3 hitouts and 6 disposals. Clearly gone passed Grundy and Gawn.
But which would you rather in your team for the next three years? Two ruckmen who are AA their entire career and shit on De Koning when they met.. ..or some guy who played two good games (one of which was literally against his younger brother).
@@shannonroberts1966 You got me. That's a lot more relevant than the hiding they copped a few rounds ago 😅 to be fair tho I can see why you'd be excited about that. It had been a while since the Blues played a final let alone won one.
What do they say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? Carlton are playing at least 5 goals better now than back then and you dont play Grand Finals on the SCG. If we play your mob in September it may be closer than you think..
Whats there to say? Easily the best team in the comp, dominate every team they come up against. Obvious Flag favourites and dont look like losing anytime soon. Id rather listen to talk about 2nd - 13th where it seems anyone can beat anyone and is the tightest a finals race has been for ages. Im sure there are plenty of Swans forums and radio you can talk about smashing other clubs. Most people want to hear about the teams who are fighting it out for the run to finals.
As a Sydney supporter, Carlton at 1 makes sense. We have a history over the last 10 years of choking of GF day at the MCG against Victorian teams. Carlton is clearly a better product than when we played them 5-6 weeks ago. If the GF was at the SCG i'd be confident we are firm favourites, but we have demons with the MCG and the big stage. I hope we first make it to the GF and then prove me wrong. Horse deserves and needs that second flag. If he can win it, the keys to the Sydney job are his for the next 15-20 years
i thnk my blues two and sydney one myself atm even with blues good form. but good point with swannies travels to melb, or lack of it. not a lot of success. but two home finals will help get them there.
Your Swans are #1 by a country mile on current form. My Blues are #2, and the only reason we’d be any sniff in a granny is because it’s at the G, not the SCG. Still lots of the season to go, anything can happen. Only speculation at the moment. But it’s gonna be a closer season than we think
I foget who it was against but earlier in the year when he marked that ball over the line when he had all the time in the world to kill the ball was baffling!
Yep he's a pure athlete with piss poor footy smarts. I've got Houston in Supercoach so I'm always scrutinising how Port's defence is structuring up. You can always count on Esava for at least 2-3 really bad errors per game. I don't know how he holds his spot each week but I guess Port have no viable replacement at key defender.
Mr Whateley , as is his wont, diverts attention towards Port and away from his darlings at the Cattery - a team that has beaten only Richmond in its past seven outings - before eventually glossing over their dramatic fall from grace.
I respect Whiteley a lot but he has been down on Sydney all year. Took him forever to rate them in the top 4. He’d latch onto any excuse to downgrade them. That’s fine but it’s a bit perplexing.
Derm, back to his best. Love to see it. Gerard, delusional when it comes to the Swans. Carlton got pumped by Sydney. It wasnt that the Swans won, it was how they won. It was a demolition.
Historically, every team which won the flag, play a game and lose without any logic to explain it…Sydney lost to Richmond ffs…does that define them? Not that it matters to the experts making these naive and subconsciously polluted opinions, Carlton had 11 of their top 22 out injured the first half, not an excuse, however it is a brutal disadvantage…Yet they still won more than lost…Collingwood are also quietly tearing the course down with all their injuries yet, still winning, the mark of a team confident, connected and process driven with a united lazer sharp focus on the execution of their individual roles…that mentality, if kept coerced, with a maniacal intent to repeat over and over, that the team which will overcome any other, not the superstars, not the outstanding moments, marks or goal…its the execution of each players job, devoted to maintain that “Spartan” fortress of belief, trust of each other, a unified confidence each action, execution and deployment will find the target, and the result will take care of itself…there are 4-5 teams which are soaring into contention, I’m not convinced Swans are that much ahead, although, currently, they are clearly the team to beat. Interesting games are looming against top 8 sides which earned the honour, this season…its surging to become a finals campaign, plagued by stealth harpoons deployed by a club, denied any genuine contention, albeit thrilling it will also feature how close to even our competition actually is…just saying!!😅😅
Its almost as if there are similarities between sports and finding examples from other sports to help explain your point is releveant and helpful lol He also used a cricket analogy, was that too hard to understand too? 😂
@@lucaseric8679 he was talking about AFL forwards and using a quarter back as an example, no I don't follow, and cricket, omg that's the most boring sport know to man. It's a game of footy, everyone else seems to be able to talk about it without talking about NFL 😆
@@TheGunmanChannel I understood it as not comparing the positions but the leadership and impact both need to have on their team and game. I can see where you’re coming from about cricket, I enjoy it though.
Gerard 'I hate the swans' Whateley seeding Carlton at 1 over a team that has lost one game all year with the best % on for AND against in the perfect example of Vic Bias. Not only have the swans completely dismantled most teams (except the tigs? what happened that day, netflix doco out shortly) they beat Carlton by 60 points. "It just feels more natural' I reaallly don't think it does Geryl
It feels more natural to a Victorian to be backing a Victorian team. And that’s ok as long as we aren’t expected to take his journalistic integrity as being impartial anymore. He’s now in the Eddie category.
@@matthewanderson4378 in what world will there be 90k Blues fans? It will be an even split if both teams would make to the GF. Swans have 70k members.
Cannot stand Derm taking 2 minutes to waffle on about something that should take 15 seconds, some good insights but just loves the sound of his own voice too much
As much as I enjoy derm, this was the most boring listen, they both drag on a conversation and take 15 seconds for a 3 second sentence, dissapointed david king isn’t here this week, But my god Gerard is daft… any reason to not have swans not No.1 in his seedings… 3 games 40% ahead of Carlton
No kem hinkley post game hes said clearly he is not going to surrender and hes going to get wins on the board. 2. He told cam mooney at half time port only has to change the simple things to get back in the game. Port will make a late charge for the premiership.
@@jarrah1364 that's what he said I just hope he removes the blindfolds first. he sounds more confident than the Crows coach this week. He's going into the Crows game hoping according to his own words. On interview this week. Do these guys know what has to be done to beat the opposition or they just hope lol. I never heard coaches speak like this
Lose by 80p at home with that list your coaching career is over . Cya Ken and whoever takes over has a great opportunity . Edit .... and i think port need to sack him now to give the assistant coach a 10 week test period . NO point waiting to EOY
Worst case scenario for a grand final mate!! For the AFL we need an interstate team in it like how great Sydney are they will get there to the grand final, instead of Victorians winning it every year its so boring, might aswell keep calling it the VFL you always have the grand final in Melbourne with your teams winning every year its a fucking joke 😂
Sydney are clearly the best and should win it all this year, but I think a healthy and in form Collingwood beat Carlton 8/10 times I recon. Too good down the stretch in close games. Not to mention once Mihocek, Cox, Elliot, De Goey, Pendles, McStay, Mitchell are all back and contributing.
@@rosssmith557 Essendon does not stand a chance against a healthy Caltton and Collingwood. They’ve played Saints, Eagles, North, Bulldogs & Suns twice. No other team has had an easier draw in the top 8
How can they be the "clear" 2nd best when we haven't seen an even 80% healthy Collingwood team, while Collingwood is still 4th... it's like these people forgot Collingwood won the flag last season
Collingwood really aren’t all that Sydney and Carlton have proven they are the top 2 seeds right now. Let’s just remember Collingwood were down by 50 points against one of the worst teams we have ever seen, and only just managed to win the game. Doesn’t really scream Grand Finalist this year does it.
@triumphantgaming1557 Collingwood has been the most injured team in the league outside of Richmond. They've had over 8 players play games with less than 10 games experience. They have a better defence than Carlton. Anyone who says they're CLEARLY better than Collingwood doesn't watch the sport. You mention going down 54, and forget they came back to WIN, could Carlton to that with 10 injuries? No. There's only 1 team that knows how to win games, it's Collingwood, not Carlton, not Sydney
Essendon had 20 more inside 50s than Carlton last week, and Essendon had more scoring shots. I wouldn’t say they’re clear number 2 at all. If the umpires even up the way they officiate McKay, Curnow and De Koning to the same way they do the rest of the league, they’re not that great. De Koning should have 10-15 frees if the umpires actually READ the rules on ruck contests.
Is it really hard for essendon supporters to admit they were simply outplayed by the better team? I have full respect for what they have done thus far this season, but the supporters would do well to be a bit more gracious in defeat.
I think the real question is.. can Sydney beat a vic side on grand final day at the mcg? Almost a certainty that Sydney will make the grand final but I think they will choke if they play Carlton or Essendon or Collingwood
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In Gerard’s defence.. Carlton only narrowly lost to Sydney by 52 points in round 10. De Koning was in All Australian form with a massive 3 hitouts and 6 disposals. Clearly gone passed Grundy and Gawn.
But which would you rather in your team for the next three years? Two ruckmen who are AA their entire career and shit on De Koning when they met.. ..or some guy who played two good games (one of which was literally against his younger brother).
lol Carlton were not playing well at the stage, different story now
Who won last year’s finals game champ?
@@shannonroberts1966 You got me. That's a lot more relevant than the hiding they copped a few rounds ago 😅 to be fair tho I can see why you'd be excited about that. It had been a while since the Blues played a final let alone won one.
What do they say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? Carlton are playing at least 5 goals better now than back then and you dont play Grand Finals on the SCG. If we play your mob in September it may be closer than you think..
Even if Sydney don't lose another game this year and win the GF Whateley will still probably find a reason to seed someone else above them 🤡
Whats there to say?
Easily the best team in the comp, dominate every team they come up against. Obvious Flag favourites and dont look like losing anytime soon.
Id rather listen to talk about 2nd - 13th where it seems anyone can beat anyone and is the tightest a finals race has been for ages.
Im sure there are plenty of Swans forums and radio you can talk about smashing other clubs.
Most people want to hear about the teams who are fighting it out for the run to finals.
@@lucaseric8679you look a little confused
@@vexingnova4280 lol I replied to the wrong comment, fair play.
read your comment before Whately gave his ranking so knew what was coming, and still didnt think he would he actually say it
Great to listen to Dermie. He talks sense and is very accurate in what he says
Swans biggest threat is themselves
As a Sydney supporter, Carlton at 1 makes sense. We have a history over the last 10 years of choking of GF day at the MCG against Victorian teams. Carlton is clearly a better product than when we played them 5-6 weeks ago. If the GF was at the SCG i'd be confident we are firm favourites, but we have demons with the MCG and the big stage. I hope we first make it to the GF and then prove me wrong. Horse deserves and needs that second flag. If he can win it, the keys to the Sydney job are his for the next 15-20 years
i thnk my blues two and sydney one myself atm even with blues good form. but good point with swannies travels to melb, or lack of it. not a lot of success. but two home finals will help get them there.
Your Swans are #1 by a country mile on current form. My Blues are #2, and the only reason we’d be any sniff in a granny is because it’s at the G, not the SCG. Still lots of the season to go, anything can happen. Only speculation at the moment. But it’s gonna be a closer season than we think
Over half the hour spent on non-victorian teams, including the first 20mins.
Dermot will have his media pass taken off him.
And I'll lose interest because he's talking about quarter backs 😆
Dermie-plaining for 20mins, be careful what you wish for 🤣🤣🤣
Carlton feels more natural to be the number 1 seed ahead of Sydney at the moment… wtf? 😂
Deserved praise from Dermott for Josh Treacy. He had a powerful game yesterday and he’s going to be something special. Remember he’s only 21.
Dermie absolutely nailed it around Port. Esava has 0 footy IQ.
I know, I can see that when he's in defence just terrible
I foget who it was against but earlier in the year when he marked that ball over the line when he had all the time in the world to kill the ball was baffling!
Everyone knew that except ports list managers
Yep he's a pure athlete with piss poor footy smarts. I've got Houston in Supercoach so I'm always scrutinising how Port's defence is structuring up. You can always count on Esava for at least 2-3 really bad errors per game. I don't know how he holds his spot each week but I guess Port have no viable replacement at key defender.
In that dees game when he marked the ball behind the goal line instead of getting a fist out and it ended up being a goal
Great to see Dermie back to his sharp self again after his recent health issues . He has a great football mind and it was a shame ne never coached
Issues ? Did he have a sore foot from stomping someone's head behind the play again?
@@Yourdoomawaitsyoupity it wasn't your head
Mr Whateley , as is his wont, diverts attention towards Port and away from his darlings at the Cattery - a team that has beaten only Richmond in its past seven outings - before eventually glossing over their dramatic fall from grace.
Love Kingy, but bring Dermie on relatively more often. Unreal insight!
Give Brisbane something ffs they made the power look like country b grade
I’m the biggest lions fan you’ll meet, but they gave us a full 9 minutes ?
They are......
Whateley just trying to generate clicks now. Or he hates Sydney THAT MUCH.
A social media managers would have made the thumbnail and title, and their job is to reach as many people as possible
I respect Whiteley a lot but he has been down on Sydney all year. Took him forever to rate them in the top 4. He’d latch onto any excuse to downgrade them. That’s fine but it’s a bit perplexing.
@@wolfhound2000 he was exactly like this when they made the GF too. He’s opinions are completely irrelevant. Can’t stand him.
lol, as if Wheatley is making RUclips titles
@@jimmygrant3349 do your self a favour and don’t watch
Hope Whately jinx’s us into a premiership.
Someon explain duty of care to Dermott, it is a moral obligation not something you exercise. You have a duty to show care. Care is the action.
Its a contact sport first and foremost, if you dont like the physicality go watch Soccer.
Derm, back to his best. Love to see it. Gerard, delusional when it comes to the Swans. Carlton got pumped by Sydney. It wasnt that the Swans won, it was how they won. It was a demolition.
Write Collingwood off at your own peril.
Done it ages ago bud
@@stevelozevski8151 yeah but you’re renowned on RUclips for not having a clue Steve.
@Comatosedpeanut there are better teams than collingwood this year mate that's facts
You can barely beat teams, start winning by over a goal for ppl to finally take you seriously
@@Comatosedpeanut not having a clue about what, exactly?
da da da da da!
Look what it translates to 😭🤣
Really enjoy listening to Dermie, he's got a pretty good insight on the game
Love Bermie
The passionate way he anilizes it.
I think Brisbane is the Swans greatest threat.
Whately couldnt pick his nose. Which given the size of his brown nosing to Carlton is a big call.
If Pies get healthy look out
Historically, every team which won the flag, play a game and lose without any logic to explain it…Sydney lost to Richmond ffs…does that define them?
Not that it matters to the experts making these naive and subconsciously polluted opinions, Carlton had 11 of their top 22 out injured the first half, not an excuse, however it is a brutal disadvantage…Yet they still won more than lost…Collingwood are also quietly tearing the course down with all their injuries yet, still winning, the mark of a team confident, connected and process driven with a united lazer sharp focus on the execution of their individual roles…that mentality, if kept coerced, with a maniacal intent to repeat over and over, that the team which will overcome any other, not the superstars, not the outstanding moments, marks or goal…its the execution of each players job, devoted to maintain that “Spartan” fortress of belief, trust of each other, a unified confidence each action, execution and deployment will find the target, and the result will take care of itself…there are 4-5 teams which are soaring into contention, I’m not convinced Swans are that much ahead, although, currently, they are clearly the team to beat. Interesting games are looming against top 8 sides which earned the honour, this season…its surging to become a finals campaign, plagued by stealth harpoons deployed by a club, denied any genuine contention, albeit thrilling it will also feature how close to even our competition actually is…just saying!!😅😅
Keep going big on Carlton Gerard 😂
Love Dermi but I feel like he always manages to say a lot without really saying a lot..
Dermie needs the original hairstyle back
WTF are we talking about quarter backs for Derm 😆
gunny who you follow mate
@@darthgeros5863 Bombers
Its almost as if there are similarities between sports and finding examples from other sports to help explain your point is releveant and helpful lol
He also used a cricket analogy, was that too hard to understand too? 😂
@@lucaseric8679 he was talking about AFL forwards and using a quarter back as an example, no I don't follow, and cricket, omg that's the most boring sport know to man. It's a game of footy, everyone else seems to be able to talk about it without talking about NFL 😆
@@TheGunmanChannel I understood it as not comparing the positions but the leadership and impact both need to have on their team and game.
I can see where you’re coming from about cricket, I enjoy it though.
Gerard 'I hate the swans' Whateley seeding Carlton at 1 over a team that has lost one game all year with the best % on for AND against in the perfect example of Vic Bias. Not only have the swans completely dismantled most teams (except the tigs? what happened that day, netflix doco out shortly) they beat Carlton by 60 points.
"It just feels more natural' I reaallly don't think it does Geryl
Yeh us blues are second Sydney are first swans would probably win the flag
It feels more natural to a Victorian to be backing a Victorian team. And that’s ok as long as we aren’t expected to take his journalistic integrity as being impartial anymore. He’s now in the Eddie category.
Swans wont beat Carlton at the Mcg in front of 90k Blues fans.
@@matthewanderson4378 in what world will there be 90k Blues fans? It will be an even split if both teams would make to the GF. Swans have 70k members.
He clearly enjoys triggering Swans fans as he giggles away. Not that it's all that difficult 😂
Spot on derm with port!
Cannot stand Derm taking 2 minutes to waffle on about something that should take 15 seconds, some good insights but just loves the sound of his own voice too much
short answer no
Good call on Sam Collins, he's definitely any decent FWDs Litmus-Test!
Ken coaching til 2032 fmd. Dermie would have an stroke if Hawthorn were interested in his service.
Logan Morris is the goat
Oath
Sydney are still miles out in front. Couldn't split Carlton, Collingwood. Brisbane looking very good lately
Jesus christ Gerard has the patience of an 🦉 with the people he has to sit and listen to crap on! 💤
What self indulgent babble by Dermie. Just loves to hear his own voice. Don't get him back again he is a disgraceful bore.
As much as I enjoy derm, this was the most boring listen, they both drag on a conversation and take 15 seconds for a 3 second sentence, dissapointed david king isn’t here this week,
But my god Gerard is daft… any reason to not have swans not No.1 in his seedings… 3 games 40% ahead of Carlton
Dermott has rocks in his head 😂😂
Steven May is gay , Dermie wanted to say it .. hehe
No kem hinkley post game
hes said clearly he is not going to surrender and hes going to get wins on the board. 2. He told cam mooney at half time port only has to change the simple things to get back in the game. Port will make a late charge for the premiership.
What?? No way
@@jarrah1364 that's what he said I just hope he removes the blindfolds first. he sounds more confident than the Crows coach this week. He's going into the Crows game hoping according to his own words. On interview this week. Do these guys know what has to be done to beat the opposition or they just hope lol. I never heard coaches speak like this
9 rounds left, swans are clear by 3 games. I can’t see them losing 3 in the run in🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ whateley clearly on the bait….
Lose by 80p at home with that list your coaching career is over . Cya Ken and whoever takes over has a great opportunity . Edit .... and i think port need to sack him now to give the assistant coach a 10 week test period . NO point waiting to EOY
W carlton
Whateley sucks
Carlton are definitely number 2 😂😂
and Sydney are definitely number 1s 🤣😂
Can we please not get a racist to fill in for Kingy
Carlton vs Collingwood grand final
Sydney are going to squash both teams like cockroaches. Not even the MCG or umpires will save the Victorians this time.
Worst case scenario for a grand final mate!! For the AFL we need an interstate team in it like how great Sydney are they will get there to the grand final, instead of Victorians winning it every year its so boring, might aswell keep calling it the VFL you always have the grand final in Melbourne with your teams winning every year its a fucking joke 😂
There is no better atmosphere than a Collingwood v Carlton game, a grand final for the 17th flag would be nothing short of epic
@@joelhibbard1482well if port weren’t irrelevant since the late 2000’s then maybe a non Victorian club could win it 🤷♂️
Who’s beating the swans at the SCG 😬
Sydney's 1/2 game is better than literally every other team's 4 quarter efforts.
Wait till the big stuff starts.....
Sydney are clearly the best and should win it all this year, but I think a healthy and in form Collingwood beat Carlton 8/10 times I recon. Too good down the stretch in close games. Not to mention once Mihocek, Cox, Elliot, De Goey, Pendles, McStay, Mitchell are all back and contributing.
Carlton have a few out as well and are still better than Collingwood
Essendon haven't won a final in 20 years.. they are no threat @@rosssmith557
Collingwood had everyone playing against carlton except Degoey and that was when Carlton had injuries
@@rosssmith557 struggle against eagles at home
@@rosssmith557 Essendon does not stand a chance against a healthy Caltton and Collingwood. They’ve played Saints, Eagles, North, Bulldogs & Suns twice. No other team has had an easier draw in the top 8
How can they be the "clear" 2nd best when we haven't seen an even 80% healthy Collingwood team, while Collingwood is still 4th... it's like these people forgot Collingwood won the flag last season
Collingwood aren’t the team this year as they were of premiers last year
Collingwood really aren’t all that Sydney and Carlton have proven they are the top 2 seeds right now. Let’s just remember Collingwood were down by 50 points against one of the worst teams we have ever seen, and only just managed to win the game. Doesn’t really scream Grand Finalist this year does it.
Forgot the carlton still has 3 of their best 22 out ? Lol
@triumphantgaming1557 Collingwood has been the most injured team in the league outside of Richmond. They've had over 8 players play games with less than 10 games experience. They have a better defence than Carlton.
Anyone who says they're CLEARLY better than Collingwood doesn't watch the sport.
You mention going down 54, and forget they came back to WIN, could Carlton to that with 10 injuries? No. There's only 1 team that knows how to win games, it's Collingwood, not Carlton, not Sydney
@@binks7988 3? That's all? Collingwood currently have Pendles, Mitchell, Mihocek, McStay, De Goey, Cox, and Elliot... all 7 are in their best 22
Essendon had 20 more inside 50s than Carlton last week, and Essendon had more scoring shots. I wouldn’t say they’re clear number 2 at all. If the umpires even up the way they officiate McKay, Curnow and De Koning to the same way they do the rest of the league, they’re not that great. De Koning should have 10-15 frees if the umpires actually READ the rules on ruck contests.
😂
Yapping
lol
Is it really hard for essendon supporters to admit they were simply outplayed by the better team? I have full respect for what they have done thus far this season, but the supporters would do well to be a bit more gracious in defeat.
Lol any more excuses you can roll out champ?
I think the real question is.. can Sydney beat a vic side on grand final day at the mcg?
Almost a certainty that Sydney will make the grand final but I think they will choke if they play Carlton or Essendon or Collingwood
lol wat essendon? take your meds
Essendon, no chance unfortunately