The Controversial Downfall of Shokuhou Misaki

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2023
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    Exploring what makes Misaki a divisive character, and the main reason why fans hate her due to the decision she made in NT22R.
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  • @AeonofHorus
    @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +116

    Btw guys Misaki is still my fav female character, (I know the thumbnail might suggest I don't like her which is untrue) this vid is about why she's hated by some! What do you guys think about Misaki and her decision in NT22R?
    Check out Misaki's full past with Touma explained here: ruclips.net/video/iPOvVPiHEcE/видео.html

    • @disconnectsealed7702
      @disconnectsealed7702 10 месяцев назад +13

      Did you have to put those word in your thumbnail

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +6

      @@disconnectsealed7702 Seems so, as it's getting a load of views already!

    • @disconnectsealed7702
      @disconnectsealed7702 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@AeonofHorus I get its for clickbait, but since I see people using those words anytime they hate on a female character (a lot of the time I find the reasoning stupid) nowadays, I just get annoyed every time I see it, so my instant reaction upon seeing the thumbnail was to overreact sorry.

    • @haaahaaa6250
      @haaahaaa6250 10 месяцев назад +8

      Hate the game not the player, click baiting is a skill in today's RUclips algorithm.

    • @AWW_LLC
      @AWW_LLC 10 месяцев назад +8

      ​@disconnectsealed7702 you should also make a point to pay attention to the coloring of words.
      he did that to refer to others stating those words.
      I feel it's wrong that he needs to clarify that, when people should know that by using different colors he's referring to others thoughts or reactions and not himself.

  • @depressedrocksenjoyer9472
    @depressedrocksenjoyer9472 10 месяцев назад +164

    I find it incredibly ironic considering that people turn a blind eye to Hamazura who did much worse than Misaki who is literally a traumatized teenager who acted out of PTSD

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +41

      Yeah Hama's actions in NT22 were crazy

    • @MentalOutlvl6
      @MentalOutlvl6 10 месяцев назад +17

      It's called being hypocritical hamazura in my opinion would do whatever to save takisubo if that included breaking the law

    • @Limpblank
      @Limpblank 9 месяцев назад +10

      Like Saten. Forgettable little characters doing nothing.

    • @Usopi
      @Usopi 9 месяцев назад +6

      xdd same Misaki isn't mistaken, was Touma but was only his arm.

    • @15yearskid
      @15yearskid 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@UsopiLmao Yeah
      I liked this confusion

  • @albertonishiyama1980
    @albertonishiyama1980 10 месяцев назад +155

    "I think Misaki should've punished for being mentally fragile", said the fans that just read the entity who brainwashed Index, caused 98% of the shit on the series and is the single evilest thing in the whole franchise with no redeeming qualities being forgive one volume prior.

    • @suckz11
      @suckz11 10 месяцев назад +6

      Aleister

    • @Usopi
      @Usopi 10 месяцев назад +7

      Right, Misaki is nothing compared to Aleister

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 10 месяцев назад +2

      I think the problem is that she is notoriously divisive and always stirs up shit when she enters the story and manipulated many people herself. So of course they won’t care if a master manipulator get manipulated by someone else. Her power is not exactly compelling to make her likable as a hero as her only power is to take away a person’s mind, essentially stripping them of their dignity as a human (free will is what makes us human after all).

    • @albertonishiyama1980
      @albertonishiyama1980 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@lenleon3699 Hard disagree on the "the Power isnt copelling", her power is literally the center of all the franchise. And I'm not even joking.
      Most of the "evil" people on the series dont have any powers, or have and dont use at all (Laura, the Kiharas, Aleister, KnT... The only one with real power was actually Fiamma). And yet they're constantly doing brainwash and mind control on levels Misaki cant even dream achieving.
      Everyone else is either misguided by discrimination (like Vento and Stiyl calling everyone on Academy City "monsters", "mutants" and what not), or just being used by a higher up (like the whole Dark Side where a good chunk is composed by people forced to be there like GROUP or that dont have anywhere to go like ITEM after WW3).
      Misaki is the exact same foil to all those main villains that Mikoto is to the minor ones. Kuroko's speech about how "Mikoto can break the City in half if she wanted, but she's a good girl and knows some empathy" she talks to Awaki fits letter by letter on Misaki as well.
      Without Misaki the best shot we would have on a "good character that manipulates everyone" to be a counter point to the majority of the enemies would be... Himegami, because she force vampires to attack her? Kaibi because she at least use her powers to solve problems without violence? Vento who literally has a walking war-crime as main weapon but at least doesnt kill, just puts everyone on a coma?

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@albertonishiyama1980 Er, I meant that mind control and mind manipulation do not scream “trusty or likable”. It is the powers usually given to the sketchy gray anti heroes, or at worst the villains with no good intentions (there is an entire subsection of doujins made for the dang thing for a reason).

  • @haaahaaa6250
    @haaahaaa6250 10 месяцев назад +80

    I don't hate misaki, i am quite fond of her. But everytime i see one of her quirks on screen, i get a massive displeasure, which I've recently discovered is from the tragic past between her and touma.
    Every encounter between the two is doomed to be forgotten by touma, which makes her smug smile depressing. There's nothing else about her that bothers me, and this one is made by good writing.
    You can't hate her for doing one mistake born of her conflict and desperation, you might as well hate every character touma meets.
    The haters can surely make better use of their time, and great video as always king.

    • @Lewitlai
      @Lewitlai 10 месяцев назад

      Nah, basic and simple

    • @Lewitlai
      @Lewitlai 10 месяцев назад

      Question. Why did that happen? Why did Touma split into 2?

    • @haaahaaa6250
      @haaahaaa6250 10 месяцев назад

      @@Lewitlai you sure you want me to spoil it for you? It's a pretty intense arc.

    • @auroner12
      @auroner12 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Lewitlai@cruilacan4959 ​ ​​In the last volume, after they were all defeated by Coronzon. Othinus gives advice to Touma, who could not defeat Coronzon with the Imagine Breaker alone, to defeat Coronzon he had to use another card from his extensive dakk. At the end of nt22 Touma transform in Invisible Thing and defeats Coronzon. But in the end Aleister disapear.
      In the end, Touma thinks something absurd, that if he had used the Imagine Breaker better and had his memories maybe he could have saved Aleister. (Touma did not know that Aleister was alive lmao)
      After Touma split into 2. 1 remained a monster, and the other was the IB with his ability and his memories were separated from him.
      That creates confusion in his friends and they fight

    • @auroner12
      @auroner12 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@LewitlaiIn the end after Touma defeats the other Touma and tells him that he is his wish, that And that he may have done wrong things but that’s just a ability. (And that all his behavior really comes from Touma). PS: Kamachi probably did this to clean up Misaki.
      That’s what upset Touma and refuses to accept reality
      Finally after this one return to his arm, Touma accepts that everything that happened is his fault. He was basically the one who made his friends fight on both sides. And he accepts Aleister’s death. (But, surprised Aleister is alive and meets Touma in GT5)
      At present everything is insignificant with the introduction of the Transcendents.

  • @vanguardtrainer924
    @vanguardtrainer924 10 месяцев назад +55

    I went into season 3 of Railgun thinking I’d hate Shokuhou especially since it was setting her up as the antagonist only for it to be a red herring (I went in completely blind.) but I ended up enjoying her…I might have a weakness to blondes too.

  • @maciejk5255
    @maciejk5255 10 месяцев назад +149

    I remember being mad at Misaki for NT22R moment. But at the same time, I understand that she was extremely vunerable mentally, being taunted by the perspective of being remembered in some form or way, after over a year of suffering in silence and pretending. Looking from the outside, it was a fundamentally illogical and unwise move, but that was all about Misaki's emotions. Although she did went a bit too far then and the fact that she almost started a war was not helping.
    But she redeemed herself completely when she didn't let Misaka die even if it was convenient, knowing that even if Touma never learned that she did something bad, she still didn't want to do something while knowing Touma would be hurt by it.

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +31

      fr, KnT knew what he was doing by targeting her insecurities and her ultimate desire, he was pretty much like the devil in the volume from the way he manipulated others and tempted Misaki

    • @xstaticelite1640
      @xstaticelite1640 10 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@AeonofHorusAnd she knew she was doing the wrong thing and still did it. Having a character understand something is wrong but still do it anyway because of emotions and clinging to a false hope is how you write interesting characters

    • @auroner12
      @auroner12 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@AeonofHorusI think you forgot to say that was Touma’s skill but with Touma’s attitude. (It’s the most important part really.)

    • @Limpblank
      @Limpblank 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@AeonofHorusThe central axis is really Touma, and how is his head.

    • @fireforcecum
      @fireforcecum 10 месяцев назад +1

      Not talking about the small stuff. Someone noticed that Anna organized that so that Touma would become stronger.

  • @ruslanhoncharenko2179
    @ruslanhoncharenko2179 10 месяцев назад +25

    Honestly, I can't really call Misaki controversial or hated, because she literally the 2nd most popular female character in a Toaru franchise, hell couple of time she beat juggernaut Mikoto in official polls and NT11 was reprinted a few times, so by definition the subset of her haters is small to not matter. Not to mention her haters doesn't even compare to amount of Mikoto haters (or shitkoto/shitsaka as they say).

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +9

      As I said in the vid, it's mainly from readers of NT22R, some anime only watchers don't like her too. But yeah it's the case of popular characters getting more hate, Misaka being an example.

  • @imaginerejector1429
    @imaginerejector1429 10 месяцев назад +39

    "There were no repercussions for her actions." Then comes GT, where Spoilers
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    Touma is hanging with a girl who killed him multiple times (+ Othinus of course). I believe Rimea said something about forgiveness in NT22R. Considering the lines other characters have crossed, Touma and his friends not forgiving her would be the stranger outcome in my view. But I respect those who disagree.

  • @2mellow35
    @2mellow35 10 месяцев назад +61

    Misaka's definitely the best girl in my opinion with Misaki as a close second and its very strange to see that she gets hate considering what we know about her. It makes her far more interesting that Misaka in all honesty.

    • @auroner12
      @auroner12 9 месяцев назад +1

      Aleister and Aradia deletes them .

    • @dastagirwajahat
      @dastagirwajahat 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's just perspective i guess. Many hate Misaka aswell

  • @Levo2007GN
    @Levo2007GN 10 месяцев назад +159

    All characters cool, but Frendead is the best

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +51

      FRENDEAD? BRUHHH

    • @CristopherColumbussy
      @CristopherColumbussy 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@AeonofHorusshes got a lotta liquid

    • @gsomv
      @gsomv 10 месяцев назад +16

      You got me on the first half, ngl.

    • @altzerz
      @altzerz 10 месяцев назад +4

      Don’t agree but W

    • @Levo2007GN
      @Levo2007GN 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@AeonofHorus she counts as 2

  • @GGDAWG7
    @GGDAWG7 10 месяцев назад +105

    Was not expecting Aeon to also be familiar with Testament Sister New Devil, he is by far a greater man of culture than I previously realized. Lol awesome video on Misaki!

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +8

      Thanks bruh

    • @narusas1222
      @narusas1222 10 месяцев назад +6

      Wish it had a season 3 ( I read the light novel and the MC is based)

    • @Lewitlai
      @Lewitlai 9 месяцев назад +2

      Oreigaru Fans Intensefied

    • @Lewitlai
      @Lewitlai 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes

  • @randomguyblank1616
    @randomguyblank1616 10 месяцев назад +77

    I always interpreted Misaki's actions in NT22R as her being psychologically manipulated by KnT so I don't really hold it against her. I mean I feel like its a theme throughout the Toaru series, New Testament at least, that the characters are being pushed to their mental breaking points so yeah it kinda fits.
    On a side note with all that's happening between Misaki and Misaka in the GT volumes, I'm starting to think Kamachi himself ships the two.

    • @TephraKoukla
      @TephraKoukla 7 месяцев назад +2

      Wait, you mean they are actually getting along now? I am anime and wiki/reddit only, so please dish some more info!

    • @randomguyblank1616
      @randomguyblank1616 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@TephraKoukla It's more of a mutual acquitance type of thing, but they keep ending up in yuri situations.

    • @ambassadorofbadtaste
      @ambassadorofbadtaste 4 месяца назад

      ​@@randomguyblank1616I guess everything for them to turn the guys away since they only have one guy that they turned their eyes on

    • @tanaymithari4902
      @tanaymithari4902 3 месяца назад

      @@randomguyblank1616 i am at nt volume 7 so i lack significant information but yuri , it would Disappoint me, it would be better if there is no relation

  • @Slender_neet
    @Slender_neet 10 месяцев назад +38

    To aru community when the evil mastermind that commited most atrocities in the story becomes a loli: "LET'S FRICKING GOOOO"
    Also the to aru community:

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +12

      LEGIT! I always point that out to them! Its crazy that KnT is so popular and liked, even tho he was the one who took advantage of Misaki and manipulated her on purpose

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 10 месяцев назад +16

    0:43. My only reply to this is MISAMISA.....................

  • @inorbit717
    @inorbit717 10 месяцев назад +12

    The MisaMisa duo are still my favourite characters in toaru

  • @xstaticelite1640
    @xstaticelite1640 10 месяцев назад +19

    Misaki is a great character! I feel like there are some fans who can't accept characters who makes mistakes unless the mistake is mass murder like Accelerator and Othinus lol
    Yes she caused some trouble but no one died and the person who got most hurt was herself.
    Of all the critisms you mentioned people have of her, the only one I think has merit is the lack of consequences from 22R. But to me that's more of a GT issue than a Misaki issue.
    I do understand why people don't like Hornysaki but to me that falls under the "fan service" category which I never like and try to ignore. So I wouldn't criticize her character specifically for it.

  • @deathbeforedishonor6523
    @deathbeforedishonor6523 10 месяцев назад +10

    Excellent video. I was definitely not expecting a late Sunday afternoon one. That being said, I knew bits and pieces about Misaki and also about her past with Touma but that really filled in a lot of the gaps. I personally never had a problem with her and thought she was a fun, likable character. An attractable match also for Touma depending on how things finally shake down. I say she does not deserve any real hate in my opinion. Keep those lore videos coming my friend.

  • @dpolaristar4634
    @dpolaristar4634 10 месяцев назад +9

    I mean compared to what other fan favorite characters have done what Misaki did is honestly pretty tame.

    • @albertonishiyama1980
      @albertonishiyama1980 10 месяцев назад +3

      I mean...
      Wanting "unforgiviness" for this, when the MCs already forgave Accel, Mugino and FUCKING OTHINUS basically by their second meet is... ignoring the themes from the series, to say the least.
      FUCKING CORONZON was forgiven literally one volume prior. I really dont understand what everyone was expecting for Misaki.

    • @buddymmx3936
      @buddymmx3936 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@albertonishiyama1980but you have to understand that forgiving betrayals is a whole other deal from forgiving enemies.
      Think about how one piece treats the two differently

    • @dpolaristar4634
      @dpolaristar4634 10 месяцев назад

      @@albertonishiyama1980 Alesiter Crowley still one of the biggest POS TBH.

    • @stevieveringus3857
      @stevieveringus3857 10 месяцев назад +3

      Aleister: nervously whistles

    • @otakua4666
      @otakua4666 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@buddymmx3936squard still live beings forgiven so no this this is not even betrayal KnT just have great brainwashed ability to even brainwashed the mental out

  • @narusas1222
    @narusas1222 10 месяцев назад +7

    I didn't know that Misaka was hated. I don't really this strongly on Misaka or her friend group or SISTERS ( only Kuroko but that when she's in judgement mode and not one-sama mode ) but I love her fight scenes and how she uses her powers.

  • @Adonteon21
    @Adonteon21 10 месяцев назад +7

    Generally in the camp that her power by default is vile and due to her severe trust issues. She is desperate to have everyone under that power, even people would think they are actually her friends. They don't have a clue that she could have them walk right out street and would if they ever found out and questioned her about it. But then the author is known to be inconsistent character writer, so who knows.

  • @matrixzrymutonium
    @matrixzrymutonium 10 месяцев назад +11

    That thumbnail is certainly really experimental, just like some of kamachi's writing at times. 👍
    From my perspective, this decision was the perfect way to demonstrate to the audience how much Touma means to her and her current mental state. It's certainly really selfish. And she realized her mistake right after, and most of the blame falls on KnT for being so manipulative in the situation, imo.
    I am one of the people who really liked this moment, as i ended up liking her character even more because of it. I don't have really solid reasoning as to why, but i guess to an extent i ended up respecting her decision. Though i would have really liked for the other characters to have touched on her decision after the situation ended and when they all were together in GT2, but hey, that's just me.

  • @altzerz
    @altzerz 10 месяцев назад +10

    I’m a hard core fan of misaka but I would never hate misaki she’s a great character just like most of the characters in the series

  • @hana6088
    @hana6088 10 месяцев назад +3

    I'm glad you said this about her. I feel people misunderstand her too much

  • @danielsteinman2393
    @danielsteinman2393 10 месяцев назад +5

    No matter what anyone says. Shokuhou will always be the love of my life

  • @ryanrodriguez2498
    @ryanrodriguez2498 10 месяцев назад +6

    I definitionly understand why people hate her in NT22R, however people need to remember that's how smart or manipulative characters work. KNT unlike Touma is actually manipulative. KNT has great interpersonal intelligence, he used the whistle as a way to get through her conflicting emotions. Also if you watch or read Star Wars Ep 3 novels, you know how Palpatine works and how he got to Anakin. That's how KNT works and how he manipulated Misaki.
    While I won't deny Misaka and Touma should've questioned her more or be more upset with her more. Misaka should've have defintionly been more distant from her from now on but after GT2, I think there good. At least she faced punishment when her own power destroyed her. However again that's why she's the best written female in Toaru. She realized how she messed up, doing something selfish will hurt those she cares about and she would break mentally.
    The emotions she went through are very understandable, however the fact she finally decides which Touma is real she can move on. The real Touma despite having no memories of her will always be the boy she loves.

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад

      Yep, you're completely right comparing KnT to Palpatine in the sense they tempt Anakin/Misaki with what they want the most to make them fall to their side. KnT/Palps are like the classic devil from the bible in that way.
      Absolutely agree.

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 10 месяцев назад +4

    A moment why i hate her, not extremely, is to he hate Misaka just to her clone who was her best friend died and he blame Misaka, like most of the villains, for her suffering when he was just a child who wanted to help but a greedy scientist had other plans, for real he was the only one beside Toma who wanted to save her clones when everyone else just blame her with this bit$& included.

  • @nicktanicosilva2582
    @nicktanicosilva2582 10 месяцев назад

    U wouldn't have been more compelling that they have her try and rebuild things only for it to ultimately fail but succeed at the same time like the group forgives her but the relationship or trust isn't what it used to be and from there build it up to the point that it does eventually go back slightly to where it once was shows more growth of the relationship but that could just be me wanting more drama

  • @TrainerRad164
    @TrainerRad164 10 месяцев назад +3

    Oh please make a video about Misaka I'm curious on what's up with the hate for her. 🙏

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +4

      This vid is doing very well so sounds like a plan

  • @professorpengu502
    @professorpengu502 10 месяцев назад +8

    I understand why she did it people can do selfish things but i think they should have been mad at her for it afterwards

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +10

      It makes sense for her character yeah, and was a nice progression of her character arc in NT, I somewhat agree there should have been more of a reaction to it. But perhaps they realised KnT was manipulating her and was the true enemy.

    • @stevieveringus3857
      @stevieveringus3857 10 месяцев назад +2

      like aeon said but I personally would also expect Misaki to think over it herself the most. GT 2: never mind!

  • @sirjoker1267
    @sirjoker1267 10 месяцев назад +7

    I don’t hate her, I just think she’s selfish. Still an amazing character though.

  • @workdesu
    @workdesu Месяц назад

    since the beginning we are introduced to her, Misaki may be smiling and accepted "it's fine this way, even if he cant remember me" -all the time.. but when false touma showed her a glimpse of what is it like if "touma remmber her", she broke apart. all those years she was holding it inside her.. how desperate she actually wants the real Touma to remember her.. if there's someone i really rooted for in Toaru universe to find happiness..it's Misaki 💔
    it was just brutal and unfair that he cant even remember her when this girl loves her this deeply

  • @JRPGGUY
    @JRPGGUY 8 месяцев назад +1

    2:35 Hope itsuwa gets more screen time

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 10 месяцев назад +14

    Misaki Shokuhou is like my second or third favorite character from the Animes after Misaka Mikoto and Accelerator and Touma Kamijou shes only really seen in Season 3 of Railgun and at the beginning of Season 2 of Railgun and that was like 3 years ago since they made Season 3 of Railgun... I think Misaki should really get her own Anime Side Story like Misaka.... it will definitely be better then the one Season Accelerator got.....

    • @dastagirwajahat
      @dastagirwajahat 9 месяцев назад

      Does accelerator turn to be that good in later series so many fans of him.
      The only thing I saw is he saving 20k1th misaka did he do some amazing feats after and in novels as well

  • @OmegaGaze
    @OmegaGaze 5 месяцев назад +1

    That story and her character is amazing, how can people hate her. Pretty sure they are trying to compare her pain with that of Touma.

  • @philippmaqs8799
    @philippmaqs8799 10 месяцев назад +2

    wow that's NT's ending arc? Pretty great if you ask me.

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, the volume was really crazy, Kamachi goes deep into Touma's character using themes from the very first volume regarding his identity and memory loss. Really good stuff!

  • @BlueJack222
    @BlueJack222 10 месяцев назад +1

    I bypassed Misaki first introduction due to the fact that I did not like Railgun at all and I read her bio from the wiki and then of course I watch railgun later on when season 3 was coming out and before that I watch NT22R and that was like a big moment for her to be honest I thought she was going to keep her distance away from Touma after that volume due to the fact that experience was very traumatic but nope she has almost appear in every volume of GT since then

  • @TheOtakuKat
    @TheOtakuKat 10 месяцев назад

    So what happened to your NT volume summary videos were they not doing the numbers?

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад

      The recent NT8 epilogue one didn't do so well. Still I want to do NT21 to see how that performs, I might as well do NT22-R at some point too

  • @SS-CHARA576
    @SS-CHARA576 10 месяцев назад +2

    Notorious character design 🤣 aeon you really good at saying words by secret non-direct way

  • @devilshooter126m8
    @devilshooter126m8 10 месяцев назад +15

    Great video
    Accelerator Kills 10K+ clones, Fanbase favorite character.
    Misaki makes a decision to get with the person she loves, Fanbase hates her.
    Personally, I Like Misaki every character has flaws, It makes good writing.

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 10 месяцев назад

      Lol, facts.

    • @hungerxhunger2548
      @hungerxhunger2548 10 месяцев назад +1

      People justify characters they like while finding every little thing wrong with those who don't.
      I mean look at the justifications for Index then they blast Misaki for trying to get her man back LOL.

    • @Adonteon21
      @Adonteon21 10 месяцев назад

      I am really surprised Accelerator is so popular and even got his own main title. Other some slight ptsd on rare occasions. He hasn't changed a bit, he only does a few nice things for last order and the worst one because of guilt.

  • @Zyraphina
    @Zyraphina 9 месяцев назад +2

    She is one of my most favorite characters in the franchise!

  • @Lavamites25
    @Lavamites25 10 месяцев назад

    I think I still like Misaka (and maybe Saten) more than Misaki, but I do also really like Misaki for pretty much the reasons you listed. Complex characters are my favorite, and Misaki is one of the most complex characters in ToAru

  • @josemanuelvelasquezsantael8928
    @josemanuelvelasquezsantael8928 5 месяцев назад +1

    I kind understand Misaki point of view she really can’t trust nobody less she mind control them she doesn’t want be betrayed or manipulated by anybody with her past and happen to herself and her friend I can’t really blame her for that even she acts as villain or bad girl around other people’s

  • @nailin18
    @nailin18 10 месяцев назад

    4:50 That one is really good too though.

  • @khairoohsem6327
    @khairoohsem6327 10 месяцев назад +3

    Basically she is accelerator type character but less edgy but bigger plot.

  • @clarkkentnaruto4322
    @clarkkentnaruto4322 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hey Aeon and Pierro. Thanks for another great video. You are doing a great job of making me ultra excited to read NT and GT. I would really like to hear why Misaka is hated.

    • @pierocolombo2643
      @pierocolombo2643 10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh helloo, been a while since ive seen you, i hope you doing good 🙌
      As for the Misaka hate is more just the package of being the most popular girl in the series and polarizing the fandom bc of her relevancy thats mostly all

    • @clarkkentnaruto4322
      @clarkkentnaruto4322 10 месяцев назад

      @@pierocolombo2643 Hi! Yes, it has been a while, and yes, I am doing okay. After waiting to see if my arm would heal on its own for about 3 and a half months, I went in for surgery in August the 15th. I am now about to complete my first month of healing and I have been doing light Physical therapy for the past 2 weeks. I won't be ready to go back to work until late November. I have also been going to the YMCA to either walk on the treadmill or to use the recumbent bike, which has been nice. I'm trying to get my stamina back. I really like Misaka. Of course I could be biased because I've watched way too many amvs of her and Touma. I'm not a fan of how she keeps saying that they are pretending to be girlfriend and boyfriend, but I do think she cares about him and she feels comfortable with him. It's clear that she doesn't trust people easily, but she trusted Touma really easily. In fact, one thing that I am surprised that I haven't seen yet, or I would think would happen in the future is to have every character that Touma meets and knows start doing a full exam on him with their hands to see if he is injured since they last saw him. Maybe they would say, oh my god, are you okay, are you hurt anywhere.

    • @pierocolombo2643
      @pierocolombo2643 10 месяцев назад

      Hey im not sure you responded to me or someone but your comment for some reason appears invisible :( mind sending it again?

    • @clarkkentnaruto4322
      @clarkkentnaruto4322 10 месяцев назад

      @@pierocolombo2643 sure.

    • @clarkkentnaruto4322
      @clarkkentnaruto4322 10 месяцев назад

      @@pierocolombo2643 @pierocolombo2643 Hi! Yes, it has been a while, and yes, I am doing okay. After waiting to see if my arm would heal on its own for about 3 and a half months, I went in for surgery in August the 15th. I am now about to complete my first month of healing and I have been doing light Physical therapy for the past 2 weeks. I won't be ready to go back to work until late November. I have also been going to the YMCA to either walk on the treadmill or to use the recumbent bike, which has been nice. I'm trying to get my stamina back. I really like Misaka. Of course I could be biased because I've watched way too many amvs of her and Touma. I'm not a fan of how she keeps saying that they are pretending to be girlfriend and boyfriend, but I do think she cares about him and she feels comfortable with him. It's clear that she doesn't trust people easily, but she trusted Touma really easily. In fact, one thing that I am surprised that I haven't seen yet, or I would think would happen in the future is to have every character that Touma meets and knows start doing a full exam on him with their hands to see if he is injured since they last saw him. Maybe they would say, oh my god, are you okay, are you hurt anywhere.

  • @wan9473
    @wan9473 10 месяцев назад

    Im glad back when i binge watching toaru kagaku , I start from the anime and not invested enough to care about spoilers or anything. I had a genuine hate towards misaki and her clique back then at the middle of the season. After knowing what really happened, she's one of my favorite

  • @etam8099
    @etam8099 10 месяцев назад

    0:20 I was wondering when you'll be mentioning that video lmao

  • @H2COable
    @H2COable 10 месяцев назад +17

    Actually, she is a really nice character with a lot of complexity. Not a good or bad person but in a spectrum like any real person with desires, wants, good qualities, and bad. Not everything can be white or black. Misaka in the sisters show a level of desperation and the irrationality that i think many people will feel at some point in life, when you don't know what else do and just want it to be over. The only character that I think is plain and so reductive is index. Lol

    • @MentalOutlvl6
      @MentalOutlvl6 10 месяцев назад

      She's basically a good version of Laura from church

  • @FreakyDudeEx
    @FreakyDudeEx 6 месяцев назад

    i actually like misaki's character because she is one of the link for the past touma to the current one... plus its obvious she loves the past touma a lot with all the hints in the first series's timeline's stories... then when it was revealed later on if you think of it from her perspective, yea it was irresistible choice to betray the others for someone she has loved since forever.... imagine loving someone and connecting with them and only for them to lose their memories after every encounter and this was all your fault.... that is a very hard pill to swallow for almost everyone in the entire world... plus almost all of the girls (who are the majority of his allies) are madly in love with him anyways because of his idiotic nature to save others even though he looks insignificant and weaker than them... so they probably could relate a bit to her plight....

  • @LSB.B.T.D
    @LSB.B.T.D 10 месяцев назад

    Bros not going to make a explsin s2 s3 confirmed

  • @evrest9166
    @evrest9166 4 месяца назад

    Hey man as someone who also what to return to the past and patch thing i relate to that much 😂

  • @SLAVKINGRED
    @SLAVKINGRED 2 месяца назад +1

    i love her love of touma

  • @doublestarships646
    @doublestarships646 10 месяцев назад +3

    As someone who has dated beautiful women with wild pasts, I can tell you that what she did is pretty accurate to how women are like when they get lost in their feelings lololol. 😬

  • @mengyue1472
    @mengyue1472 10 месяцев назад +1

    if Touma cant remember her everytime they part, it would be scary if one day she might just show a child claiming it's Touma.

  • @Dogbert947
    @Dogbert947 9 месяцев назад

    Dyou think it's possible that KnT didn't actually have any more memories than OG Touma, but simply used conjecture and observation to piece together a mental picture of Shokuhou, and then used mere suggestion to manipulate her into acting the way she did? I dont recall from my reading of NT22R (before Baka Tsuki removed it due to its being licensed...lol) that KnT actually had those memories or if he was just such a good con artist that he was able to make do without them

  • @RudiMyDear
    @RudiMyDear 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think for as horrible as what Shokuho does in NT22R and whatnot are, I end up liking her more as a character for it. She's a good person who does bad things; but unlike a lot of characters who do things like badass evil mastermind heroes in other series, shokuhou's not some "invulnerable badass who can do everything and is never damaged by the world around her", shokuho's acts in NT22R honestly solidified her as one of my favorite characters due to how much you can see her weaknesses as a person.
    Also, I feel like her not being punished for what she did in NT22R can itself be classified as a form of punishment. It also does a good job of showing how the other characters' maturities as well, so I like it.

  • @ArcadiaOnline2301
    @ArcadiaOnline2301 9 месяцев назад

    6:44 I won't ask questions bit it will take a few weeks to get there lmao

  • @lexmats6709
    @lexmats6709 7 месяцев назад +1

    Personally flatdere and boobyblonde are tied at waifu tier.
    However, I agree that Misaki got off way too easy from her betrayal.
    She needed a redemption arc where she had to really suffer from her decisions, be it memtally, emotionally, socially or just about anything.
    There's a reason why the deepest part of hell is reserved for betrayers, and Misaki just got a slap in the wrist for the most severe of acts.

  • @waselwow9907
    @waselwow9907 10 месяцев назад +1

    Never thought misaki was this hated lmaoo and ive said this on twitter and ill say it again aeon of horus is the best toaru content creator and no one can prove me wrong

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for the kind words ❤️

    • @waselwow9907
      @waselwow9907 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@AeonofHorus ur welcome thanks to you i learned how vectors work lol

  • @rafaeldasilvaromero3362
    @rafaeldasilvaromero3362 10 месяцев назад +2

    Touma saves the same global terrorist who planned and actually destroyed the world and made him suffer: he is GOAT.
    Misaki controls the people in Windsor Castle to help a version of Touma who actually remembers and talks to her after days of being a ghost to the original Touma: she is a b!tch.
    While Shokuhou is a necessary character in the Railgun side of the story for it to evolve, in the main series she got introduced more to push the Moe side of Misaka in the story. Get her out and the Railgun becomes less interesting on her own, since she is always left behind.

  • @JohnnyTightlips2007
    @JohnnyTightlips2007 10 месяцев назад

    I'm more confused with their names sounding very similar.

  • @thetaalchemy1357
    @thetaalchemy1357 10 месяцев назад +1

    She's one of the best science side characters but when mugino and item exists we can't give misaki all the attention

  • @didinwinatapura
    @didinwinatapura 10 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is that many of her fans think she is a great GENTLE oneesan while the truth was that she's only trying SO HARD to be like that because of how TOUMA MOCKS HER APPEARANCE AND ATTITUDES. That's she's trying so hard and it was supported by the fact that she knows Touma MORE LONGER than Misaka and Index.
    While the truth is that she is still the same as Misaka and Index. An unstable 14 years old brat. If you see Index NT vol.22reverse then you will understand of how dark the inside of Misaki was.

  • @user-dt4wo1zw2k
    @user-dt4wo1zw2k 8 месяцев назад

    The title says it all.

  • @prolezerg
    @prolezerg 10 месяцев назад

    misaki is my fav character too

  • @StrohHutDommi
    @StrohHutDommi 2 месяца назад

    Is this Mami from Rent a Girlfriend?

  • @RealZynexx
    @RealZynexx 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sucks she didn't take KnT's memories from before dragons breath and give them to Touma, it doesnt seem like an impossible thing to do

    • @stevieveringus3857
      @stevieveringus3857 10 месяцев назад

      His pathways to her memories have been destroyed. So that would be useless.

  • @lolhcd
    @lolhcd 6 месяцев назад

    I mean growing up being used like all the espers but actually realizing it is one thing. Misaki's "revelation" that people are using her is different, she doesn't just "know", she read their actual minds with all the side-thoughts they had. If you grow up being critisized and hated due to idek racist, sexist remarks and God knows what, you start to distrust a lot of people and rely on yourself. It's like reading mean internet comments from sexists and racists people unfiltered all the time (or the times she wants to). Imo, "mind-reading" the way Misaki does can be very instant, not reading a line from start to the end but an instaneous acquirement of what the person has thought to a point she chooses.
    So she grew up basing her social interactions on that, her social interactions are more one-sided because she can choose to read the minds at any time and people that know about her power might feel uneasy around her, which adds to the social awkwardness already surrounding her interactions.
    She might feel lost and out of control when talking to people she cannot "read", which, in our eyes is fine but in her (personal) reality, something is not normal to her.

  • @commonspark939
    @commonspark939 10 месяцев назад

    She’s my second favourite in the series, right behind Kuroko.

  • @ENiceGeo
    @ENiceGeo 10 месяцев назад +1

    If Kazakiri Hyouka is the conscious form of AIM Diffusion Fields then Shokuhou Misaki is the embodiment of Twitter. She can't trust others but can't be trusted herself. Even loyal people around her aren't safe. Misaki uses her mental ability to make her number one fan girl, Hokaze Junko, gain weight out of pettiness because she doesn't like some things Junko says.

  • @SapphirePlains
    @SapphirePlains 10 месяцев назад

    Kirito people hate and people love him i guess this also the case with Shokuhou

  • @WizAtTheYellowBrickRoad
    @WizAtTheYellowBrickRoad 10 месяцев назад

    I like her, though, even when I first saw her from the series.

  • @H2COable
    @H2COable 9 месяцев назад

    Does misaki have a clone? The little blonde clone with the lollipop kinda looks like her. Also I thought misaki can’t use metal out with the 3rd rank level 5

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  9 месяцев назад +1

      Nah, febri and janri aren't related to her. And while Misaki can't normally use Mental Out on Misaka due to the electro barrier, when Mental Out went berserk it was able to bypass it.

    • @H2COable
      @H2COable 9 месяцев назад

      @@AeonofHorus another question if Misaki and the girl in the pink dress try to use their power in each other who would win?

    • @pierocolombo2643
      @pierocolombo2643 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@H2COable Misaki by far, no other mental esper user comes close to her in power, only Ayu bc they had a similar power. Gokusai Kaibi (girl in dress name) isnt gonna do much

  • @planetbirthday6859
    @planetbirthday6859 10 месяцев назад +1

    A certain scientific & magical NTR 🤣 I never read the novels but man everything you described sounds funny because of how convoluted the plot seems to be

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah I also realise it sounds kinda dumb without context, and if I were to explain everything properly then the focus of the video would be lost kek
      Recommend checking out some of my other vids where I go into the details :P

  • @dastagirwajahat
    @dastagirwajahat 9 месяцев назад

    But i think knc is his real self who has all memories after all.

  • @RiotingSoul
    @RiotingSoul 10 месяцев назад

    2:32 Why not?

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад

      Because Kaibi is a background character who hardly appears in the franchise. She only got voted that high cos of her design I think lol.

  • @mysteriousweebx7037
    @mysteriousweebx7037 10 месяцев назад +3

    Honestly crazy that with a protagonist who easily forgives people despite what they’ve done (with many ending up as love interests or friends) it’s crazy that Misaki gets so much hate. I for one can’t fault her for siding with KnT after all the pain she goes through with her love for Touma. I mean cmon this is a series where one of the now best boys started off killing over 10,000 clones in some pretty brutal ways. It’s perfectly fine for Misaki to make one mistake especially when that mistake highlights just how much she loves Touma and wants so badly to be with him and have him remember her.

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +1

      absolutely

    • @WokeandProud
      @WokeandProud 7 месяцев назад

      The problem is Accelerator has spent the entire series working to make up for his crimes and is literally in prison now. Misaki didn't suffer any repercussions for nearly getting Touma and several of his freinds killed.

    • @mysteriousweebx7037
      @mysteriousweebx7037 7 месяцев назад

      @@WokeandProud Because she not only has to suffer losing perhaps the only chance she could have gotten of being with Touma. But now she just goes right back to her normal suffering. Being unable to properly be apart of the life of the guy she likes. I’d say that’s punishment enough.

  • @AfroOtaku917
    @AfroOtaku917 10 месяцев назад

    0:48 - 1:03 I feel like I'm being called out....
    Anyways, I know the chances of you replying to this comment are pretty slim but....what's your opinion on Misaki's (...Somewhat mean spirited) relationship with Misaka?

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +1

      I enjoy their dynamic ngl, their relationship is an uneasy one so they are best used when they are unwilling allies. What I don't like is that for some reason in the Index light novels, they seem to be inseparable as most of the time atm they always are with each other, which seems weird considering I wouldn't even class them as 'friends'. Admittedly, they have gotten closer and don't seem to dislike each other as much, but still would be nice to have them do their own things again rather than forcibly being written in the same scenes constantly.

    • @AfroOtaku917
      @AfroOtaku917 10 месяцев назад

      @@AeonofHorus I see. I personally didn’t care for Shokuhou myself. Not quite for the same reasons as most people, but for how she acted towards Misaka. Namely…constantly mocking and pranking her over her insecurities of her chest, singling out of her inner compassion and kindness, and seemingly being there to make her seem worse by comparison. Really, I mostly saw her as being a hateful bully…
      But now I’m just aggressively tsundere with her…but I’m pretty sure you have your own rebuttal..

  • @aidans4464
    @aidans4464 10 месяцев назад +2

    Toaru fans when Hamazura decides to work with the demon who is trying to exterminate all of humanity: I sleep
    Toaru fans when Shokuhou decides to help a portion of Touma: REAL SHIT?????

    • @stevieveringus3857
      @stevieveringus3857 10 месяцев назад +3

      actually some people really didn't like Hamazura doing that...

    • @cameraredeye3115
      @cameraredeye3115 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@stevieveringus3857 I certainly didn't. I would have preferred he put up a fight knowing he was going to lose. Coronzon wouldn't need more than her base strength to subdue him, anyway.

  • @TheDarkSide1977
    @TheDarkSide1977 10 месяцев назад +1

    I respect the Anime as is

  • @joshuapatterson8269
    @joshuapatterson8269 10 месяцев назад

    2:54 Hey that rhythmed

  • @SanzuRiver
    @SanzuRiver 10 месяцев назад

    Why is it called "New Testament"?

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад

      because its the bible

    • @pierocolombo2643
      @pierocolombo2643 9 месяцев назад

      To answer a bit more its the name Kamachi chose for the second novel of toaru, New testament continues what the fandom call Old testament (which the anime adapted) and then when it finished we have a 3rd novel continuation in Genesis testament

  • @aminadabbrulle8252
    @aminadabbrulle8252 10 месяцев назад

    2:32 FFN part of the fanbase: So you have chosen death.

  • @ritikvibhani5557
    @ritikvibhani5557 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nah I don’t even read the books but girl just mind controlled her friend and ntred the only reason to pity her and she didn’t even get there ussop treatment of being ignored for a day and having to say sorry I don’t care if she’s got blood on her shirt Squidward gets bloody every single episode for running away

  • @mirage6335
    @mirage6335 10 месяцев назад

    Queen of mind.

  • @ritikvibhani5557
    @ritikvibhani5557 10 месяцев назад

    Newnumber 2 book out

  • @jorgeznt8266
    @jorgeznt8266 10 месяцев назад +2

    El autor quizo alargar el arco que se le acortaba mucho y elijio ensuciar a misaki como sacrificio.... aaaaa que lamentable autor umu
    Ensucio totalmente un personaje que brillaba como plata a un harapo sucio umu

  • @minuette1752
    @minuette1752 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like her. She just made her choices. She is still a good person.

  • @SLAVKINGRED
    @SLAVKINGRED 2 месяца назад

    i love her

  • @VerdeMorte
    @VerdeMorte 10 месяцев назад

    Yeah, compared to Shield Hero's elder princess "B!tch" Misaki's practically a saint...

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit4132 10 месяцев назад +2

    I heard that NT ruined her character from a friend since she was my fav railgun girl and I have always been curious how accurate that is. Thanks for the vid.

  • @user-gj4zr6bd6x
    @user-gj4zr6bd6x 10 месяцев назад

    I could never ever dislike her, i mean just look at her. She has two big arguments. That's enaugh for me.

  • @RainBerry46
    @RainBerry46 10 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't read NT yet but as soon as I seen Shokuhou in Railgun I knew she was going to be a complex misunderstood character that would get a lot of unnecessary hate. The more I saw her the more I love her. I do wish they didn't make her yet another girl that loves Touma. It annoys me that in Index almost every girl he helps/saves becomes a simp and he never shows interest in any of them and most become background characters after introduction. I wish Misaki was a lesbian instead and loved either Hokaze, Dolly or Misaka(later on)
    Misaka on the other hand I have mixed feelings of. When I had just seen Index seasons 1 and 2 I got so fed up with her obnoxious Tsundere antics that I just wanted Touma to punch her. In railgun however I love her when she bonds with her clones and friends (especially her clones) but if it wasn't for her having precious adorable clones she'd be far less interesting. I don't hate all Tsunderes by the way, there's several I like a lot like Rin from Fate, Touka from Tokyo Ghoul Kurisu from Steins Gate ect I just can't stand Misaka's tsundere side.

    • @question9581
      @question9581 10 месяцев назад

      I mean clones > Misaka in terms of writing. Couse they are crucial to the plot and don't feel forced. As far as love interest go only Index, Othinus and Accel I think love Touma. Misaka and Misaki treat Touma more like a goal post or something.
      Only lesbian I think in the show was that redhead from AB and even she gave up.

  • @question9581
    @question9581 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ahh yes NT22R the last time Misaki was interesting then GT gave her the Misaka treatment.Honestly MisaMisa was a mistake.

    • @mystictomato9466
      @mystictomato9466 10 месяцев назад +1

      I wholeheartedly agree. MisaMisa was one big mistake.

  • @redomnitrix6834
    @redomnitrix6834 10 месяцев назад

    Mugino is who I hate no competition.

  • @missskabls2247
    @missskabls2247 10 месяцев назад

    💛💛💛

  • @XXXeNNN
    @XXXeNNN 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm the CEO

  • @RongDMemer
    @RongDMemer 4 месяца назад

    Incredible how we could hate fictional character so well

  • @slimxafton
    @slimxafton 10 месяцев назад

    Dat thumbnail tho 😭😭😭

    • @AeonofHorus
      @AeonofHorus  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's provocative but worked as it's gotten a lot of views!

  • @_Circus_Clapped_
    @_Circus_Clapped_ 10 месяцев назад +7

    the way she manipulated a kid to sexually harass Misaka had me crying in laughter