Part 3: Melani & Ian Pawlowski explain why Lori Vallow Daybell is not saying where her kids are
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Eaton: So you do believe that Charles was shot in self-defense and Alex was defending himself?
Melani: Absolutely. And I went to Tylee and was like, 'How are you?' She was so brave speaking about it and was very collected and very mature. I admire Tylee so much for how brave she was. She explained everything and so did Lori and so did Alex and it made sense with how Charles has been acting. You're in shock that it went to that extreme but I'm glad Alex was there to protect Tylee.
I hated that Tylee had to go through that and I know there's been a lot of criticism of how Lori acted afterward. She's smiling on camera and I know when she's uncomfortable, she'll just kind of laugh or smile and try to make light of it. I do the same thing. It's just how we handle being in shock and every person handles being in shock differently.
That's when everything started to be strange. Charles had said all these things in court documents, things I had never heard Lori say, and that's when these strange ideas started flowing around. Lori has always been an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. She loves learning and she spent a lot of time in the temple trying to learn and grow from experiences and trying to feel peace from all the things that have happened in her life.
Charles I feel took that to an extreme with the things that he said about her. Honestly I see everything Charles did...like the emails about his life insurance. Charles sold life insurance and had his own company and the texts between people it almost looked like a setup. It was very alarming to see all these things.
I have been asked what spiritual experiences has Lori had. That's not for me to answer or to say what Lori and Chad's beliefs are. But I know the people they are and I know they're good people and they're trying. As a family, we'd get together and talk about the mysteries of God and the deep doctrine conversations. We're allowed to do that. We're allowed to discern truth from error and just learn and in our church. We believe in revelation and it's an ongoing process. We're learning continually and everything's changing. We're just people that are trying to grow in our faith and be closer to the Savior.
There's no cult. Lori's my aunt, Zulema's almost like an aunt to me, Alex is my uncle and this is my family. Where it comes down to Tylee and JJ and this zombie idea - it came from a disturbing phone call I got from one of Lori's old friends right after they took off to Hawaii. She told me Lori and Alex did something to Tylee and JJ and we don't know where they're at and Lori has lied to you and all these things that didn't feel right. On that phone call I felt a lot of fear and doubt and that's when I kind of went into this worrying phase.
I'm newly married and I'm sharing these things with him and can't sleep some nights. I didn't know where they're at, I didn't know what was going on and I didn't understand these things. And Ian, which I don't know, is talking with Natalie and Brandon and they're telling him these terrifying things that aren't true - that I've wanted to kill Brandon and I'm in a cult. I have no idea what Ian's doing behind the scenes and I'm in a scared time in my life where I'm trying to figure out the pieces. I'm trying to know what's going on with with Brandon and his plans and who he is working with and where my kids are. December was terrifying - like we're thrown into this boiling pot as soon as we get married and trying to just adapt as best we can.
Eaton: Melani, did you actually believe these things that Lori and Chad told you? Or were you telling Ian just to get it off your chest with the assumption you didn't know what to think?
Melani: Lori and Chad did not tell me most of those things in the document. Those were fears I was hearing from other people and never did I believe them. When you don't have knowledge about something and you're in a scary situation like this, you think the worst. And I'm an open book. I kind of say it how it is.
I didn't know Ian was recording all these things and that he was talking to Natalie or Brandon. I had told him my history with Brandon and I warned that Natalie's probably going to try to get a hold of Brandan and Brandon's going to run with all these lies about me. Ian knew who I was but the factor of Tylee and JJ going missing - he'd never seen them before and had only met Chad and Lori one time. He doesn't know what I know about the past with Lori trying to do everything she can to protect her kids and people who have been threatening her.
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SHE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND KNOWS MORE THAN SHE IS TELLING, HEY IAN HOW MUCH LIFE INSURANCE DO YOU HAVE?
Good one!!
I am sure she was upset Alex missed Brandon and also the fact once he died...she KNEW that her life insurance chance as well as sole custody was DONE!
Jop🙈Ian run run! You are with a total psyco woman together and im so sorry that you are naiv and in danger. Sry for my bad english
Yep
You better believe Audrey, Melanie’s, Zulema..all knew.
I don't believe that Charles would have raised a hand to Tylee, total BS
You know him personally?
I thought In one version of the story from the body cam, Alex says that Tylee handed the bat to Charles.. I could be wrong because he gave a couple versions that day- including one where lori and tylee weren’t there for the incident. I do somehow doubt anyone would give a bat to their uncle over their father but I guess I don’t know their relationship or what was happening to be able to say.
Agreed. Noone has suggested that...in fact he was supposed to have hit alex not tylee.
heartsofgoldenrod
A 50yo man who's ok with beating women & children would have a paper trail documenting domestic violence calls & incidents.
Charles Vallow's previous wife, children (including Cody Ryan), friends, & family describe him as a kind & patient man.
She's a fn liar she went on Dateline An said she wasn't close to her in her teenage life
Liar Liar Pants on fire
This lady should be in prison for conspiracy to commit attempted murder
What an idiot
I agree 100%! Brandon was her husband no way she had nothing to do with it. He had recently moved & she was one of very few people who knew where he lived. She needs to be charged with something.
Hopefully soon ...
I fully agree!
YES AGREED! IAN IS IN A WORLD OF 💩! MELANI IS AS SICK AS LORI! VERY DARK & TROUBLED! IAN IS SO REGRETTING HIS CHOICE TO GET INVOLVED W/THIS SICK MELONI! SICK 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Melanie is a scary woman who should never be around anyone's children. She should be prosecuted,
Pretty sure and hopeful that Mel will be prosecuted. She will also go to jail, I hope, for what she did and take responsibility like an adult human being
Yes she should be prosecuted!
Melani PawLaski is another Lori Cox Daybell she believes everything Cult believes
Going to church doesn’t make you a good person.
Amen2that... doh a concept these people don’t seem to get doh 🙄
And believing in a magic hat and ‘prophecy’ from a charlatan surely doesn’t lead to any good. The whole LDS story.... you have to be completely gullible to believe any of it. Then it takes YEARS to be deprogrammed. Sheep
@@therascal6814 Help? I was stating the obvious. Maybe you’re offended because it forces you to see yourself as a one-time sheep? Congratulations on making it out. Fine line between a believer and a cult follower; faith and fantasy, fact and fiction. I heard JW wrote the Jaws theme imagining Joseph Smith going for a swim in the ocean.... Help? Not obligated too; just expressing my point, same as the gullible lost sheep dressed in white shirts and ties that knock on my door. Glad you made it out.
Most of them are hypocrites, my mother was a prime example of this. Warps the brain.
This is why many people are moving away from organized religion. It's a good thing. Fewer people being manipulated by church leaders
Melani is such a liar!! I’m sure she’s deeply involved.
I believe the same too..she said a lot of nothing!
I didn't but now I do!
Now that the truth is out maybe recheck your faith level in some of your loved ones. Your ex is doing you a favor. Your children are still alive. The evil that has gone on in this, the lies, the unfaithfulness, the missing children were actually killed and butchered. How can that be done in the so called religious purpose? You should be embarrassed that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints name is even brought into this evilness. Or the temples. That is blasphemy as Nate Eaton says. Justice will be served even if not on this earth we know the final perfect judge.
Or afraid of Lori and Chad. Either way, it's gross.
Yea how much insurance did she have on her first husband that Alex shot at.
This chick should be charged with murder ! She knew exactly what was going to happen to those kids.
Has there ever been an interview that aged in a worse way?
I fully understand why she tried so hard to not testify. After seeing the texts about her kids being dark, about her & Lori being tired looking after "demons", it is clear how much she lied in this interview. It turned out that LE were the only ones who had the kids best interest at heart. I hope she gets charged as well.
Would be interesting to have Nate review this interview after having heard all the evidence that came out in the trial..
Yes! Yes! Would love that!! I do not understand why she isn't charged. She is the one who suggested to Lori to but GERBER CHILDRENS LIFE INSURANCE. How does she live with all the lies? That is the scariest part because she has such a dependence on Lori and Chad. She can't function on her own and will do anything these people say. She looks really bad here.
@@connie2558agreed! I would love to hear a new interview and see if any of her views have changed.
She's a mini version of her aunt Lori. I'd be terrified if I was currently her husband.
Even worse than Lori's mom and sister, and that's saying something.
She talks a lot and says nothing .
😂 yup! She’s pathetic like her aunt Lori!
An effective way to skip answering questions...like politicians do! But we know that they were closely coached by their lawyers not to answer too critical questions...they were just there for the purpose of cleaning their images to get back the custody of their children. The problem is that we see more lack in them. Just look at the sense of judgement for the safety of their kids, there is none!! They are just sleeping in front of Lori's crap and buying all the non sens she says when she has not proven anything and that the proven things we have already against her speaks volume! She is a women that stole her children from the societe without any regard for anyone, even putting her niece and parents in the trouble by doing so. Her decisions not only impact herself but so many people around them What a true narcissist she is, but Melani and Ian put their believes in her instead of thinking only and in priority of their own kids...and then on their side they are asking for their own kids...dahhh!
Hey, that's what I said!
Yes, completely agree!
Thank you!!! My thoughts exactly!!
Ian looks uncomfortable, like he knows everything she is saying is pure crap.
And with every lie she tells he's looking at losing custody of his kids...
I wouldn't be surprised he decides to divorce her I mean knows a lot more than what she is saying her and her auntie were close like bubble gum lol even their attorney looking uncomfortable sitting there
Ella Susa unfortunately she is carrying his child so he has put himself in quite the predicament.
Alexandra Parker It looks like there’s a gun held on his head
wouldn't surprise me if he was still working for the FBI Without anyone knowing 🤷♀️
She should be brought up on attempted murdered charges of of ex-husband! Bring charges against her!
This woman should be in the cell next to Lori.
Wherever she is, the community should be informed.
Clear shock feigned surprise this othe Feral shld be jailed very soon
I don't care about your life, girl, where are the missing children? We know where yours are, because your ex was smart enough to keep them from you...
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Factz!
Kristiana Johnston -great comment and right to the point 👍 this is another one into herself like her aunt. Get over yourself and think of those kids
This whole story is making me crazy. All of these victims and NOONE CARES ABOUT ALL OF THE DEAD PEOPLE !!! Oh, that's right, they passed on ... cough cough .....
We're asking the wrong question when we ask where are the children? How can she say that with a straight face.
She's literally attacking a gentle man who was trying to defend himself by these sick people. As much as I want Justice for Tylee & JJ I also want it for Charles & Tammy!!!
Exactly! Did you see the body cam footage from Charles talking to the officers about her taking his truck etc ? He was telling them she was threatening to kill him! I get that the officers could only do so much without evidence but regardless they failed that man!
That lady is so full of bs... omg. Where do I start??? The ex’s are thrown under the bus, she didn’t express any concern over the missing kids??? She apparently knows full ‘details’ of how Charle got shot... but the conversation of missing kids apparently never came up. She spins kids and religion into her smokescreens and all about her... she even plays the victim.
@@douggramlich7832 Exactly..she is a liar and belongs im jail!
Put so well well she needs to be arrested and the police need to be questioned over the times they failed, Charles said she was loosing the plot and she batted her lashes and the police did jack shit
Amen.
My spidey sense is tingling everytime melani speaks. Never felt so uncomfortable with someone defending a killer. For the sake of the kids, may these cult members never get close to their children again
How can a woman that brought four children into the world just walk away from them, then a minute later get pregnant again with her new husband... Those children need to be protected from Melanie, talking about being brainwashed, Ian included... Rip to all the innocent victim of this horrific case. Regards from Ireland 🍀🇮🇪
She is very much like her aunt, She knows more than what she is saying
Thank goodness that the 4 children are with her ex-husband. If the 4 children were with her, I have no doubt if they cause issue for her, they'd have the same faith as JJ and Tylee.
These people are used to living in fantasies that are whatever they tell themselves. She strikes me as the type of mentality of women who participate in palogomy! They move onto marriage relationships very easily. She divorce Brandon solely on the idea that "God" told her that he was a homosexual. Melani had absolutely "no" evidence supporting that! She's delusional so she's able to cut off Brandon, divorce him, remarry, & she claims that she wants to have custody of some of her kids & yet she's pregnant with this second husband's baby! Wow, how mentally sound is this. I don't think that Melani is going to be found to be a safe mother to get anything more than joint custody! They keep repeating the same lies that Lori has created!
@@257rani And used to using her looks, her smile, her apparent joking etc. to look like Mom of the Year and Citizen of the Year. She. Is. Not.
She didn't walk away from her kids. Brandon got full custody
Good people don't abandon their children and take off to another state
Looks as if this entire cult wants to be free of their zombie dark children to get on with their new spouses. Dreadful people.
or kill them
Hopefully she will not have contact with her kids. She is cray cray.
Aside from that...SHOULDN'T SHE BE WORRIED ALREADY THAT IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG THAT SHE DOESN'T SEE THE KIDS? IF I WAS AWAY THAT LONG I WOULD WANT TO SEE THEM AND THEM SEE ME! Specially if she is the main caregiver and the kids have always been w her. There is something very wrong here. At the beginning I would go back and forth between thinking she was a b**** and believing that maybe she was afraid of soneone taking them away...but it has been too long now and if she doesn't stop this it makes me think something else has happened here.
Mike Seymour AND good people don’t tell their best friend to lie to the police and tell them the kids are staying there when they’re really MIA!!
Who cares that you just got married- What about your MISSING niece and nephew.
Rush to marriage because he knows..lots of secrets...
She absolutely disgusts me!
And her ex husband who was shot at by her uncle! Talks the talk like her Aunt, talks too much, knows too much.
Is there just the whole family crazy?!
She’s deflecting.
Prosecute her. She knew what was going on.
Boy, in retrospect why was this woman Melanie not arrested as a conspirator?!?
These two are about as credible as the tooth fairy.
Rick Casey The tooth fairy was always good to me.
She might not have been actively involved in some of the things that have happened but she knew I think during some of the events before and afterward and she is just as culpable....I hope she never gets her kids back.....from what I see of this family they think the are smarter than your average person and that they can explain their way out of the situations!🤦🏼♀️. She even admitted herself the kids were probably dead in those taped phone calls that her “husband” sitting right next to her taped for the FBI.....idiot🙄
A C I’m kind of new to this case... I was wondering where I could get the info from that “email”... Do you know? I just wondered how you knew that she said that??? Thank you in advance!!😊
That’s a mean thing to say about the poor old tooth fairy..🦷🧚🏻
And Melanie Gibb is guilty as well .anyone who says they love Chad & Lori should be seriously looked at ...they are both guilty & delusional
I tried watching this woman but just can’t because she’s saying a lot of nothing. Droning on and on and all over the place which mostly means she’s lying just like Casey Anthony and Jody Arias.
YES!!! GASLIGHTING!!!!
donna1965 when things don’t make sense, there is a lie.
Exactly
Her voice is annoying, because its lies lies lies.
Of course she’s lying
Tylee overheard Lori say on the phone
“She’s a zombie”
Tylee yelled
“Not me mom”
Lord Have Mercy
Can you link your source? I've tried to find it but can't.
Can you link your source? I've tried to find it but can't.k
@@MoniqueHolmes I’ve watched a 100 videos on this. No clue which one I heard it on. Sorry
@@MoniqueHolmes I think it was Melanie Gibb who said this . Maybe the tape where she discussed that Lori was accusing JJ as being azombie.
Yeah. That really turned the knife in my gut when I heard that. Poor Tylee must have been terrified. She had nobody in the world that she knew she could trust but her murderers.
She is a joke! She needs to be prosecuted also!
Lori Jr.
STOP! Your not a victim. Lori is not a victim. YOU caused your whirlwind because YOU left your kids, got married quickly and YOUR AUNT is acting TOTALLY unrational with not showing the kids! WHERE ARE THE KIDS....ITS NOT A HARD THING TO ANSWER...GO GET THEM....GET YOUR AUNT TO TELL THEM TO COME OUT. It's all too much UNEMOTIONAL bullshit...no feelings from any of them.
How dumb do u feel after autopsy find cause of death was blood clot?
You have know Idea what your talking about
irrational, not unrational
@@emilegriffith1473 are you related to that crazy family? This is about 2 kids who are missing because of a horrible mother
They're not victims of a huge conspiracy, if theyre the only ones left alive or not missing.
It is so sickening to listen to this knowing that the 2 children's remains were found on Chad Daybell's property.
Exactly. Re watching this. Just sick. Wonder that they’re thinking nw! Deplorable
Right this bit__ is Loris blood kin she must be weird too
Very interesting how she tells the story of Charles being shot... We know now that summer absolutely did not tell Alex to go over there. It was pre-planned for him to be there the night before. Second, she said that Charles was trying to swing the bat at tylee but we know that that is one-hundred-percent incorrect.... She's such a liar...
Crazy that she was telling her aunt that her children are dark. 'Turn up the pain' .... 'give them something to scream about'
I know exactly what she was thinking… that they had their bodies well enough so they would never be found
She’s dangerous. I hope she faces charges for her role in all this.
I would love to hear from Melanie now that lori has been convicted of murdering Tylee and JJ.
You, me and the world wants to hear that too. I’m hoping they slap her with conspiracy charges.
Maybe she’ll testify at chads trial. I’m hoping so.
Well the kids are no longer with us (RIP). What does "Mrs. Talks-Alot" have to say abou this now?
Here i am trying to wipe that fly off my phone ! 😂
Got me too.. I tried to wipe it hahalol😆
@@user-xh9jm4di6x 😂😂😂
My thoughts exactly. She was clearly wrong about Chad and Lori. Maybe she'll be able to discern the facts from fiction. Unlikely...
She knows everything ,so sad.For Heavens Sake .We talk about church so the truth should be told.
Deflect, deflect, deflect. This woman should have been taking care of her kids, not getting married to a stranger.
It's a cult what did you expect
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Why leave AZ where you children live? Or show up to court for coustody hearing?
I hope they charge her. This is delusion at its finest. Ian needs to wake up before he and his kids end up dead too!
I watched this after the trial and the privilege these people have is outrageous. They were given the benefit of the doubt at every turn. Melaniece's story would have fallen apart under the slightest attempt to investigate it. She should be charged with conspiracy.
Conspiracy at the minimum. I'm hoping she faces charges in AZ.
It's crazy the holes in her story/stories.
Inept 1:she said Lori took her to see her mom for the last time at hospice.
Everyone was in Hawaii except Alex when he killed her mother.
Blaming her father and Brandon for seeing the Cox family for who they truly are
I wish her father would speak out about his time with her family. I'm sure he experienced some very strange behavior.
@@ajordan1976 yes her father took her to see her mother in hospices and her Uncle Alex was out spending Stacy's money according to the cousin.
Yes! She needs to be charged with conspiracy for the shooting of Brandon. She was in on it. Only 5 people knew the new address of Brandon, including Melanie. Lori probably put things in her head, just to get Brandon's life insurance. Money was the whole motive in all of this... 😡
NOBODY IS BELIEVING MELANIE. KEEP KIDS AWAY FROM HER SEEMS TO BE CONSENSUS. ALSO IAN RUN.
Ian isn’t looking so good. He’s bloated and just awful looking.... what’s up??? Guilt???
It can’t be a good time for Ian right now. I’m sure in reality he must be scared to death. If I were his ex I wouldn’t want my children within a million miles of Melanie. Just to be on the safe side.
There are reports says she already pregnant !?
Anyone else notice how she’s talking about the children in past tense the same way she talks about her dead uncle Alex?
Oh my gosh that's so dumb. I hate it when people use that as the reason someone must be dead. Did you also notice how she talked about her ex-husband in the past tense as well.
How is it dumb? Have you ever taken a psychology class?
@@SheylaDee it's a no-brainer. Since they are not here now, she can't talk about them in the present tense.
Yes
Emily M I thought the same thing... like, past tense?? They’re safe huh?🤦🏼♀️
You cant know a person enough in 2 weeks to marry... this is crazy
She's involved in the whole thing. Totally in control in her relationship. Her current husband just sits there like a wet rag. He's got legs, start running.
MELANIE: You abandoned your kids and called these people cheating on their spouses good people. How on earth did you know Chad that well to defend him this much? Without knowing the beliefs? The emails are being leaked between chad and Lori and thats all you would've known of him. You are throwing Brandon under the bus and saying this stuff doesn't add up. You are terrible at math. You are a monster and when the kids bodies are found and everything gets put together your little lie fest here will be torn apart.
Hey @OctoberRen... Im kind of new to this case and wondered if you could help point me to where these emails are so that I could read them, please? Thank you so much, in advance!! 😊
Melanie and Ian's children are where they belong, with their ex's. They are safe, with their ex spouses. Don't blame your ex's, this is your own doing. SMH, Melanie is close with Lori, and knows so much more. You can see it in her face and demeanor.
She’s trying to demonize her ex while ignoring the fact she abandoned her family to move cross country to marry and have a child with a guy her children haven’t even met!
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I got divorced and I chatted with all my friends and family about the details. I call bullshit on her “I was dealing with my own stuff” excuse. Melanie knows what happened!
RN Student - Forensics Right?! "Sweet Aunt Lori, who would _never_ hurt her children" is showing right now how much she cares about her niece Melani. ALL she would have to do is tell the authorities where her kids are and that they’re safe and this would _all go away for Melani and Ian._ But she won’t. So their spouses have to do whatever they can to protect _their children_ from these people.
The only reason Lori took JJ away was because Charles changed Kay as the beneficiary of his million dollar insurance policy and Lori was mad. So she took JJ away out of _pure spite._ She wanted to HURT them because she’s selfish and vindictive and now _who knows_ what she did with Tylee and JJ.
She's gonna look pretty stupid when they find the dead body's! She's so brainwashed about religion it's insane!
Sure is a lot of people with a lot of custody issues....among other SHIZZLE.
She needs to be charged as co conspirator
She will be
I completely understand why their exes wouldn't let their kids around them after finding out that Melanie was in a cult, surrounded by dead people and missing children. Their exes had some common sense and good judgement. I'm relieved that Brandon had the good sense to take his children into hiding, it's the only reason why he's alive. I would love to see Melanie P. take the stand and testify during Whori's trial. I can't believe that Ian stayed with Melanie after the truth has come out about JJ, Tylee, Charles, Tammy, and Brandon.
So true. How many times did he say, I just want to get on with my life. Whatever Melaniee told Ian on their wedding night had him scared enough to wear a wire.
I wish Charles had realized you can't fix this kind of crazy and hidden himself and JJ as well.
Ian has at least one child with this woman. If he wants to stay and get hurt, let him. I'm only worried about their innocent children. This woman is dangerous and she lies so easily. She's much like Lori. Lori 2.0.
"It almost looked like a setup???"
You’re right, it _was_ a setup. Lori changed the password in effect locking him out so he couldn’t change the beneficiary, and when she thought she had succeeded, made up a story that "Charles is cheating on me and oh he’s so mean, come over and ‘protect us’ Uncle Alex" MURDERING Charles for _the money._
You’re right a Melani, it _was_ a setup. But you’re sitting up there _lying through your teeth_ trying to turn it around on Charles...who conveniently isn’t here anymore tell _his own_ side. And a story sounds so much better when you’re the only one telling it.
That's exactly what I was thinking! I'm trying to figure out if Melanie knows the truth and is trying to protect herself and Lori, OR if she really believes all of Lori's bullshit!
@@jacquelineorr5479 When someone is telling the truth they give short answers, straight to the point not long drawn out answers. She doesn't even seem emotional when talking about wanting her children back.
Ian should have believed his initial gut instinct. He’s going to regret his decision to believe this woman in the future.
Amalfi Girl He “accidentally” spilled too much tea about the cult and he will end up dying of “natural causes” too! I pray Ian runs away
He’s trapped now it looks like she’s already pregnant with his child.
Emily M Yeah there’s no way he believes her. Look at his face lol. It’s too late for him and he knows it
@@emilym155 she is!
Dumb schmuck should've worn protection, now he's linked to this fruitcake.
This woman is totally insane and not fit to have custody of her children.
She should have been charged and she is full of lies. Evil
She is acting guilty. She knows a lot more than she is pretending.
guilty people tend to speak a lot ..... cos they think they can this way somewhat cover their actions ..... !!
Lori asked her to lie it has been put into the court documents of charges being laid RIP JJ AND TYLEE
Sooooooooo ,,,,,is her church mainstream or not ???????????????????????
Blah blah blah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,FORENSIC EVIDENCE REQUIRED
She is rubbing those hands together fast and hard. Nervousness. She is trying real hard to take up for Lori and Alex and Chad. Lololol. If they are involved, it will come out.
She speaks of Tylee in the past tense!! Number one sign when a missing person is spoken of in the past. She knows she is dead!
I caught that
Well, this aged well ...
I believe this girl should be prosecuted along with Lori. She’s guilty as well….
Speculation and rumor is over on this point , the “Kids” are dead !!! Melani , the fact that you didn’t ask Lori about where the kids are shows really poor maternal instincts. You bash Kay and state that the real question isn’t where are the kids but rather why does Lori feel the need to stay in jail to protect the kids. You look ridiculous. No wonder your ex-husband is fighting for your kids.
Melani, you say your happy to answer questions and you are an open book. Time to give Nate a call and let’s try this interview again.
Well said!!!
Nate isn’t buying it!!
YESSS!
Melanie has to much baggage. For talking so much she says nothing.
Recon she's been part of a narcissistic family of chaos n lies since birth. She's used to brainwashing herself to avoid the knowledge she help kill the kids by being a constant alibi
She needs to be doing jail time
It is infuriating to watch this now that we know what happened with the kids. Come out and do another interview now that the children’s dead bodies are “showing the facts in a different light.” Now how do the puzzle pieces fit together? Now who was lying and who was telling the truth?
WHILE SHE CLAIMS SHE IS CONCERNED WITH MYSTERIES OF SCRIPTURE, THE REST OF US CONCERNED WITH MYSTERY OF HOW THE HECK.... SHE DID NOT GIVE A DAMN AS TO WHERE HER NEPHEWS AND NIECES ARE ?
Well said !
If Brandon hadn’t taken the kids. He’d be another Charles and her kids would probably be where they found JJ and Tylee. She calls Kay, Charles and Brandon narcissists. But I think she’s projecting. Her and her crazy aunt are the narcissists. She had a million dollar policy on her husband too. He was suspicious like Charles was. Someone probably Alex shot at him. She’s insane if she thinks she’s fooling anyone. She also keeps referring to the children in the past tense. She knows! If I were her new husband I’d be running for the hills. There is a good reason why her dad kept them away from the Cox family.
Yes but she actually accuses her father of sending threaten ing texts to her
absolutely ... Chad and Lori are the narcissists-in-chief. what kind of person comes to believe they are a prophet/god with the ability to say definitively who is "light" and who is "dark"? what kind of person thinks they have the right to say who lives and who dies? only a person obsessed with glorifying themselves, who is incapable of humility and *must* believe they are some kind of special person above everybody else, could ever believe that. this is textbook projection.
Brandon end up like Charles unfortunately..
It’s a miracle that Brandon is even alive. He absolutely did the right thing removing these kids from her. She defends Lori to the ends of the earth. I wonder what she’s believing now.
@@dellie5614 I think she is desperately doing anything the prosecution of Lori and Chad asks, in order to avoid being prosecuted herself.
They had to get married so fast because they couldn’t have sex before marriage. If they could’ve had a fling I don’t think Ian would be there.
I could not keep my face straight and stay as serious as Nate. Melani is crazy AF.
Lori’s son loved and spoke very highly of Charles. She is protecting Lori at all costs, even the children’s lives.
Absolutely TRUE 💯👍💯
JJ liked Charles and Tylee....
Kids and Charles were referred to in past tense. Chad and Lori were not. Hmmmmmm🤔
Alexandra Parker I caught that also
That’s the subconscious talking...
I was checking the comments for this. Noticed it too.
I heard that too!
I noticed the same thing...she knows..ALL!
This woman needs to be behind bars too!!!
Is that the same lawyer that had to pay Melani’s ex husband 12,000,000 dollars. Yes twelve million dollars.
This is pure BS and this niece should be held as an accomplice.
Linda Statler I now believe she will be in the near future.
Mélanie says Lori is willing to sit in jail for her beliefs even though Lori has tried three times to have her bail lowered to get out .
Good point!
If I have to wear a wire to find out why my new person I'm dating doesn't have access to their children, I'm not wearing a wire. I'm outta there. This guy is frumpy. Reminds me of a younger Chad Daybell only in the sense that this woman is probably the most attractive woman he's been with and he's captivated by that. Dude, she's crazy. She's dangerous. You don't marry someone like that. You step away before you bring others into the danger zone. They are all very damaged and dangerous.
IMO she’s being completely dishonest. She knows a lot more about these horrific crimes than she says in this interview.
I am very happy that Brandon was able to remove his children from situation and they did not face the same fate as jj and Tylee.
And notable that her own father who raised her helped Brandon? And why? He tried to remove HER to protect her against this crazy, dangerous family system. He saw how dysfunctional this family was, sick with secrets and hiding things. He knew her mother was mentally ill and anorexic (I'm not blaming Stacey . I'm just saying she was deep in her illness and couldn't take care of herself much less a young child while the Dad had to work). I commend her father. He's a good father and a very good grandfather. A family is USELESS if it cannot protect and foster its own children. The Cox family is Exhibit A for that. In contrast, Melanie's father, Charles Vallow, Joe Ryan before him, ALL were trying to do whatever was humanly possible to help and take care of their children. So tragic.
I think if they throw some handcuffs on Chad daybell he'll start talking
No way
I definitely think Chad would talk. He's weak. I can tell by looking at him and when they've followed them in Hawaii and kept trying to question them, the way he reacted (or lack thereof) was telling. He was quiet and he looked to Lori for her answer or for her to "deal with it." He's a puss, for sure (excuse my word choice but its the best one I have for him).
Me too.
Just let them all go free and let's just see what happens next. It might be interesting.
All that video of them in Hawaii, Lori is pulling him around by the hand like a child. He is weak.
Melanie saw what Lori told her. Her bitterness about Kay not visiting JJ is based on Kay getting the life insurance (Lori's bitterness). Kay did not know where they were living...so how would she be able to visit? People would not have known JJ was missing if not for Kay. Kay is a hero for JJ and more of a parent than Lori who used him for money.
In light of all the developments in this case, it shows Melanie to be completely untruthful.
The way Charles was acting?!?
Watch the interview with Melanie Gibb. There’s nothing open book about this lady at all.
Yes Mel.the bigger ? Is why does Lori feel the need to protect her kids .oh yeah she felt need to kill her kids
Ian has asked himself many times if he made a mistake. He keeps ignoring the answer.
🤣😂🤣 Ian needs to run as fast as he can.
Unfortunately there is a baby on the way for Ian and Melani
@@janetmosier9182 oh geez
What’s wrong with him. He will never see his kids if he stays with this crazy woman. I would be terrified of her.
@@janetmosier9182 Take the baby and then run.
She should have had to testify, but she made sure to violate rules so that she wouldn’t be able to. If she got any kind of immunity, she needs to be held accountable for that.
She's just as guilty as Lori. She's just not as successful a serial killer as her dear auntie is.
Nobody thought Chris Watts would kill his kids, either. He was the perfect dad...
I would LOVE a body language expert to break these videos down!
Same here. She was moving her arms and hands the entire time.
@@skylerthecreative2164 Ian seemed to be very uncomfortable.
@@skylerthecreative2164 you tube sweetheart.. There are body language videos.
And Chris Watts was normal compared to these nut jobs!
Chad never said loris kids are safe. You asked him, in Hawaii, where are YOUR kids and he replied that they were safe. HIS kids.
Susie L true 😨
@@Itallia135 I think this comes from that woman who spoke to him in the airport, not the reporter. When she was interviewed she said that.
He is smart he know what that question meant
Good point.
Chad told his parents that Lori is an empty nester. And in Hawaii they told people Lori’s children were deceased.
She's the queen of double talk. She pauses slightly to get her story straight.
Yep, I can 100% see how this woman got involved in a cult. All she has done is regurgitate things others have said to her.
"I'm not in any cult..." Hmm... Like a cult member or leader would say they're in a cult? All cults say they're just a religious group. 😒
Wonder how they feel after watching the news and the pay loader dig up the dead kids. They are liars, hope they get indicted for obstructing the investigation. Or maybe they turned on Lori and Chad and knew all along.
Ce Farther In the very LEAST..... Melanie should be charged for lying to the police &/or FBI! And obstructing justice. Hopefully she gets an accessory to murder charge for not coming forward to warn authorities the children & their spouses were in danger!!!
👍 C U L T !!!!
@@cefarther3945 yes .seems like cult members are just as well known as murderers ,maybe pedophiles or otherwise use their religion to enable them & their criminal activity
She had to consult with her attorney before answering the question too..weirdos
This video did not age well for Melanie. Everyone knew she was lying. Melanie, you should have told authorities more. Hopefully, you will never see your children again. RIP children. You deserved a better mom. You deserved life. You are loved. You WILL BE Missed.
I 100 percent believe these 2 had no idea where the kids were.... They just believe what they’re told.
I came back to listen again after Melanie Gibb's interview and yet again after the children's remains were found.
You nailed it: in light of what we know now, this interview is a pile of lies, gaslighting, excuses and posturing. Ian should run.
She lived NEXT DOOR & STAYED WITH LORI & ALEX 24/7
@@hippiedachshunds1632 exactly.
Someone should have gotten into their portal and seen this coming. How crazy and completely sad.
What a evil woman who is protecting Lori.
Melani never finishes a sentence or thought. She’s all over the place. Five minutes of complete rambling.
17:00 Melanie, you're saying that Kay wasn't a big part of JJs life and she's being aggressive? About what? finding the kids? If you were more involved with the kids, why aren't you being aggressive about finding them like Kay & Larry? Those missing kids need a voice right now. That voice should be you!
If no one had seen or heard from your kids in over 6 months and you were told "don't worry, they're safe," would you just accept that?
Great point
The only ones that weren't looking for the children were Lori's family...I find that horrific...
Ian said he was worried for those children yet he says things got blown up more than it should be...Really!...
Since this aired, we have found out that Brandon and two of her children were marked dark and zombies, and we know what happens to those who are marked zombies by Chad and Lori. I pray that Melani never gets near her children ever again. I think that when Melanie is thrown in prison, that Ian will get the baby, and have to start a new life.
He has poor taste in women. Sad for the unborn child.
Exactly, she is so superficial she probably figures she will replace the first 4 kids with new ones. why did she get married and pregnant so quick? Throw away family??? Geez
I think that Ian will have to go through psychological investigation to make sure that he doesn't support what Melani believes. He might support it in a passive way & he wouldn't believe that Melani could harm her own two children. I think that Ian will have a tragic wake up call. Ian would legally have custody of the newborn & if he's proven unfit, most likely one of his parents, if he has any fit parents, they would get temp custody!
who is back here after the trial???
She needs to be investigated by the Police and FBI. Absolutely just trying to justify herself and her actions. Do you all think we are dumb and stupid!!
You can tell she's lying cuz she's trying to are to defend everybody trying too hard to convince reporters and lawyers that they're innocent they're guilty as charged
And also i noticed you could tell she was lying, because her lips were moving!
She's lying. She's rambling.
bill nalder
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Amen
Melanie said she admired Tylee for how brave she “WAS.” Was? She’s no longer brave or do you know she’s DEAD?!! Where are the children?!! You know you liar!!!! Lori’s goal is to cover up the murder or abandonment of these kids.
@Maria Perez It would be great if a specialist like Peter Hyatt would watch this interview & analize it. I definitely understand what you are saying however, she was speaking of a past event (when Charles had been shot) so she did say that Tylee "was" very brave. If she said, "On the day Charles was shot, Tylee is brave.", that would sound weird. It's just hard to say that she's speaking of Tylee in "past tense" bcuz she was speaking of a past incident. IF Melanie was just describing Tylee & she said, "I really 'admired' my cousin bcuz she 'was' a brave person." that would be super suspicious. (I watch A lot of these kinds of things. Lol)
It's really fascinating when people do analize interviews & hand written notes. I wonder if someone will make a video analyzing this interview & the interview of Lori's mother and sister. Now, that would be awesome!! 👍✌
She could be saying WAS because the incident had already happened in the past. I would say it the same way. Not siding with her, but how else would you say it if it was said in the past???
Yeah that's about the tIme her lawyers jumped in frame.... shitting themselves
I agree that that's usually a good indicator of guilt, but in this case she was referring to her bravery during a specific event that happened in the past, so using past tense is not at all unusual. If she had said "I really admired how brave Tylee IS in that situation" it wouldn't even be correct English. In this specific instance, past tense was totally justified.
She makes me sick! Thank God that Brandon protected his children from you and Alex, the night that you both showed up in all black and tresspassed to try and take his children illegally. It was known that Lori wss telling people that once Brandon was out of the way, then y'all would be able to live off his insurance payout.
The shooting absolutely happened and you absolutely had a hand in it. The jeep was Tylees. You clearly coerced Alex to shoot at and attempt to kill you ex. Listening to her talk makes me almost as mad as listening to her lying aunt.
If Kay was threatening Lori, why would Lori said the kids were with Kay when the police questioned her?
YES!
Right! 😃🤣😆 That made me laugh bc it's so obvious Lori's a bad liar!
I wish Eaton would of brought that up!
Anna B annA great observation.... didn’t think about that. But that makes so much sense.
Lori never said kids were with Kay. Alex told the police that JJ was with his Grandmother and they assumed he was talking about Kay, but I think Alex may have been referring to Lori's Mom.
Lori told the police he was with Melanie Gibb in Arizona.
WHERE ARE THE KIDS, WHERE ARE THE KIDS. Nothing else matter, nobody cares about her, her marriage or her cult but WHERE ARE THE KIDS?
Cannot believe she has not been charged with conspiracy against Brandon. I stopped trying to count how many whoppers she was telling in this interview.😳
Ok…time for a follow up interview
Ok Ian, so based on the facts with two dead bodies buried on Chad's property, you still stand with Melani? You really want your kids around this?
They are all complicit.
Ian probably not so innocent
🥺🥺🥺🥺But...if I were him🥺🥺🥺
She is not that pretty. 4 kids....
Alot of hand movement..
Dear lord...
If she’s protecting the kids, what is she protecting them from exactly?
Lawyers trying to trash the grandparents too. Ridiculous 🙄
Suzanne Leigh million dollar question, right? Sounds like complete paranoia and Lori has spinned this story so crazy to act like it’s a custody matter.
Protecting them from Chad lol I think he has them hidden away
Melanie said Lori is protecting them from Kay.
Suzanne Leigh I know. It’s disgusting.
I hope the grandparents sue!
And the Oscar goes to the actress in a secondary role!
Sadly the public needs to see cases like this to understand what a pathological liar looks like. It’s a true shame the trial is not being televised. Society needs to see the consequences of bad acts.
I'd like to hear Ian's ex-wife's perspective on his demeanor here. His expressions and body language are off.
Cause he's a cult member. He has to follow the script since he freaked out and called the feds. This is damage control for the cult and an opportunity to push a false narritve of who the doomsday cult is and it's not LDS or Mormons. It's JEHOVAHz witnesses. they are the only one that believe that 144,000 are going to heaven to be gods, bs. That was in the legal documents of both custody cases. I believe Brandon and Charles evidence and documents over these murdering liars. JJ is the only one they killed because the cult can't brainwash and control autistic children. But Tylee has already a indoctrinated cult zombie and has been trafficked out of the country. They have a secret child custody and trafficking handbook ruclips.net/video/_pehwx1gAnw/видео.html
(Starts at minute 8)
This legal evidence and research will explain everything.
The way he is stimming with his hands while she talks makes me wonder if he is autistic or whether he know these are lies. The points where his hands stop moving are more noticeable though... his facial expressions read that this is the first time he has heard this story reguardingthe kids, while his shoulders and arms are held frozen with tension, his eyes shifting back and forth from her to the camera. Her eyes rolled when he said the kids are missing about half way through the vid. Then she runs on about not knowing and hadn't heard the other side. She won't ask Lori because she already knows.
I agree. I truly think he is still working with the FBI she just dont know it. Or he is scared for his life.. He was terrified 2-3 weeks ago and suddenly he's not...very fishy.
This woman gives her children to her Ex husband & is Married to a New Guy in two weeks of knowing him? And they talk about their Faith...This makes NO Sense!!!
Ian is thinking, what the heck of I gotten myself into? He better run like hell.
If this was a custody dispute between Lori and Kay, the FBI would have figured it out by now. Everybody just wants to know if the kids are safe. Why is that so hard?
@I can't seem to delete this channel. I just really hope and pray that the kids are alive.
Pam Bennett Lori didn’t get the money, that’s why the kids have gone missing. If Lori can’t have the money & the kids. Then no one can have the kids & the money plan and simple!!!!!!
Because they don't want to just see if the kids are safe. They want to take the kids from Lori and put them in the custody of the state. Then the state will put JJ in the custody of Kay Woodcock.
This is actually a smart move on Lori's part because the State can't get a court order to remove the children from Lori's care if the kids are not in her care.
This is why the State issued a court order for her to produce the children to CPS or the Police so they can be placed in the custody of the state. As long as she doesn't reveal the location of the children then she maintains legal guardianship of the children.
This becomes an uphill battle for the Prosecuting Attorney to prove that the children are not in the care of someone else. Once the Prosecuting Attorney is unable to provide adequate evidence that the children were abandoned then the whole case against Lori Vallow falls apart. The state will then lose their ability to take possession of the children and Kay Woodcock will lose her ability to take custody of JJ. Then she will be released from jail.
That's a pretty clever move on Lori's part and that helps me understand why Lori can't let anyone know where the kids are:
Here is the court document that shows the state was trying to take the children away (not to see if the kids were ok)
drive.google.com/file/d/1mrAwRl13ZvTKtCVvyY7DJBDnL5ZDdfCI/view?usp=drivesdk
@I can't seem to delete this channel. They were never looking to see if they were ok. Here is the court order for Lori to produce the children. Do you see anywhere on there where they wanted to see that the kids were Ok?
drive.google.com/file/d/1mrAwRl13ZvTKtCVvyY7DJBDnL5ZDdfCI/view?usp=drivesdk
@@stevenhenderson9005 yes, it clearly states for the health and welfare of the children. There is no way out of this for Lori until she produces the children. Even after sitting in jail and going through a trial, she will still have to produce the children. A rational person would have done it long ago if it was possible.
Trial day May 8 - 1:54:40 - Slide 45. FBI Special Agent Hart
Aug 7, 2019
Line 1399 Lori V to Chad D message:
I love you. Taking Braxie home now, I'll check on her.
Line 1394: Lori V to Chad D message:
She is asleep. She put a bunch of holes in the walls and doors. Definitely had Demons helping her, probably a thousand.
Line 1392: Lori V to Chad D message:
Mel wants us to come up there tomorrow, but I said next Thursday to Sunday. What do you think?
Line 1391: Lori V to Chad D message:
We are both so tired of taking care of Demons. We are weary. Please ask the Lord to take them!
Oof. Melani needs to be sat in front of a judge and jury.
Watching this again a few years later - she needs to be charged too. She is a liar. Period.