“Black Sabbath’s debut changed heavy metal like we’d never seen it before” Yeah because you hadn’t seen it before they invented it with their first album.
@@lance4842 never said Deep Purple, their metal sound came after Sabbath. Led Zeppelin 1 however was a huge influence to both Black Sabbath and Deep Purple. And Blue Cheer was the first with their cover of Summertime Blues from their debut album Vincebus Eruptum. It's not about just influence either. They had the sound too. The only difference from them and Black Sabbath was a tuned down guitar
ROMMEL IVAN In interviews, members of Black Sabbath have attributed the creation of the genre to Led Zeppelin. The roots were laid by Led Zeppelin, and defined by Sabbath.
9:32 unfortunatly, Master Of Puppets will be the last we would see guitarist Cliff Burton We would see guitarist Cliff Burton Guitarist Cliff Burton Guitarist
@@nicolasreny221 I do think at this point he was fighting to stay sober for about a year but after the release he got back into drugs. I think this is what happened anyways
@@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117 I will admit I might be biased since Def Leppard is my favorite rock band but they should not be on this and should have been on their other rock lists.
That is sad because that guy is a legend HIS BASS PLAYING IS AMAZING when I didn’t even know who Metallica was 5 years ago I still knew who Cliff Burton was.
I don't disagree, I'm a fan of both. As for singers, no one compares to Dio. He could sing a menu and make it sound good. But, as for important, DL popularized British "metal" during MTV. This is what I think they were going for.
Pantera in their "Diamond Darrell" days before Phil joined (and even a bit after) were laughably LA scene... watch the video where they get out of the VW Bug. High & Dry for it's time was solid, a classic album. Now if you ask me to rate Cowboys from Hell against Adrenalize... well duh no contest, but DL chose to go pop so whatever. Anyway, for the usually lame WatchMojo it's a pretty solid list. Don't forget these albums span almost 20 years and sounds change. I would say HnD was closer to "real" original heavy metal than GNR ever was. BTW RJD got an honorable mention but Rainbow should have been on the list in the first place. Rock on!
@pantera owns Spelling Def LEPPARD incorrectly ............ARE YOU SERIOUS ? hehe now... here we go again.. right ? i don't know how many fucking times i've been in this cycle so, i'll just post all my comment now, ok and i'll post yours as well so we don't need to through a bitch session you are now probably going to say "Martin, you're being a spelling nazi" i'm then going to say to you "you should fucking know the name of the band and how to spell it correctly" You'll then get upset you'll then tell me to calm down i'll tell you that i am calm you won't believe me so you'll tell me to calm down again then, just when everything settles some other dickhead from the comments section will come in and say "Martin calm down" hehe and the cycle continues MATE, TRUST ME THIS IS JUST A LOT EASIER IF YOU SIMPLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO SPELL THE NAME OF THE BAND CORRECTLY oh, and you understand - I am not triggered - I am chill - I am Calm and all that sort of stuff Def Leppard is a band that has been around forever, you should know how to spell their name oh... yeah you might also say you are not from an english background IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE if you know enough to know the band , you should know how to spell their name there' sno excuse
Yes. Their album High N Dry was a phenomenal rock album. It was the greatest rock album in that moment in time. This was also during the time before Mtv got their hooks into Def Leppard and before there was any Speed Metal, Thrash or Hair Metal tags (Glam Rock was around since the New York Dolls btw). So we're talking about a time BEFORE Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Exodus & Anthrax. This is when the heaviest bands were Black Sabbath (with R.J.Dio), Blue Oyster Cult, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Van Halen, Scorpions, UFO & MSG.
Actually, Sabbath's debut was the first metal album, but it didn't include the first metal songs. There were metal songs before there were metal albums or bands. The creation of metal is attributed to the band Bitter Creek with their song "Plastic Thunder" released in 1967.
Mustaine was briefly sober during the rust in peace time, and Ellefson had completely kicked by then. neither menza nor friedman were junkies. i used to have to argue with people that Rust in peace was their best work. somehow people really used to argue for Youthanasia. these days Rust is known as an unrelenting masterpiece though.
A lot of things wrong with this: 1. They included the most well known or popular albums instead of the ones that actually helped progress and evolve the metal genre. For example, they chose British Steel instead of Sad Wings of Destiny or Sin After Sin that defined the elements of heavy metal 2.Def Leppard 3. Slayer didn't help define speed metal, it already existed, they did however define Extreme metal 4. Rust in Peace obviously isn't Megadeth's most underappreciated album 5. Cliff Burton wasn't a guitarist goddammit 6. While Master of Puppets is an undoubted masterpiece, Ride the Lightning was more unexpected and dynamic and it deserved the spot That's all folks
As for the placement of albums on the list. that's up too the fans, watchmojo just makes the polls and hosts the results. And no matter how much you want to deny it. Def Leppard is metal and the list said most important, not necessarily the best. Def Leopard were the progenitors of late 80's Glam metal. They were very important to the metal scene of the time.
+Michael T (TriggerManX97) i'm not gonna deny that Def leppard were influential for many metal artists but as far as being in the list is far fetched. Perhaps an honourable mention
Black Sabbath didn't "invent" metal. Yes, they were highly influential, but there already was bands like Sir Lord Baltimore, Vanilla Fudge, Iron Butterfly and Blue Cheer playing heavy as fuck.
+Daniel Ortiz Also half of the bands in the list are NOT "heavy" metal. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're not metal, but definitely not 'heavy'
Snoop Doge rust in peace wasn't that popular when it was first released, that might be what they're eluding to but still, I'm with you every megadeth fan loves that album haha
"This album proves you don't need drugs to push out a heavy metal masterpiece." ... Mustaine was high off his ass on cocaine while writing Rust in Peace lol
+Alec Tucker There is a somewhat famous story that he showed up to the Hangar 18 video shoot so out of it that he couldn't sing and play at the same time, so some creative filming had to happen
Cliff wasn't a guitarist he was a bassist and they didn't even show cliff once even though there are tons of footage of him playing master of puppets songs. On top of that he wrote most of the stuff. Disrespectful mojo.
And iron maiden talks about a literal iron maiden (aka a big iron coffin shaped like a woman with spikes all along the inside used to torture people) and even though i'm not 100% sure i've heard that black sabbath talks about a literal black sabbath aka a black mass (not sure though because i don't know the lyrics).
The implement you describe never existed, other than as fake examples for decorating stately homes and appearing in horror films, and even if it did, a 'literal' iron maiden would be a virgin made of iron.
have a listen to their first 3 records. Mainly NWOBHM with a hint of pop/rock. Anything Rick Savage wrote was metal, have a listen to no no no, stagefright, or another hit and run.
They used to be a Heavy Metal band just like Iron Maiden however they turn into a Glam metal/Hard Rock band (the one that let other Glam Metal bands being successful)!!!
Eleni Tsou You are right and I SOOO disagree with that lol. I have them filed in my "Hard Rock" section :) My other pet peeve is when People call AC/DC metal! That one drives me crazy too.
Eleni Tsou I know. It is almost like anything played with an electric/distorted guitar is "metal". I think that is why Heavy Metal has never really gotten it's due and respect in the world of music. Especially when you look at places like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The only real metal band in there is AC/DC. The older, 60's farts who only think The Beatles and Joni Mitchel (whom I like both lol) don't know how nor have they tried to actual understand and get into the world of heavy metal. It is so foreign to them that they lump it all together where in their minds there is really no difference between Nelson or Overkill lol. If the Hall Of Fame is suppose to be about influence in music history how can they not have a Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, or Scorpions in there? ...because for them if it ain't hippie and ain't dam skippie! (Did I really just type that lol) Heck, look how long it took them to get Kiss, Deep Purple, and Alice Cooper In. That alone should tell us that it will be decades if Metal ever will get a fair shot. IMO>
mrhoffame you're right..metal bands are so underrated especially today, and don't forget all the stereotypes and false beliefs around metal music. I don't really think metal will ever be appreciated by people who know nothing about it
Probably because they influenced metal, you don’t have to be a metal band to influence another, for example Lemmy was heavily influenced by early rock and roll.
I still love Holy Diver! It was and still is one of the greatest efforts of all time! Fresh out of Black Sabbath and ready to conquer the world which is exactly what Ronnie James Dio and his band with Vivian Campbell in particular accomplishment! I was so fortunate to see that tour and was blown away!
My picks by importance standarts (no order) Metallica - Kill Em All Black Sabbath S/T Possessed - Seven Churches Death - Scream Bloody Gore Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Nothern Sky Motorhead - Overkill Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus Venom - Black Metal Slayer - Show No Mercy Iron Maiden S/T Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Slipknot self titled is definitely arguable, but imo its worthy of the list, not high on the list because I can recognize that there are way more influential albums out there, but it is still a classic
Holy Diver should have made it to the list. Dio is one of the biggest metal icons. I love Def Leppard, but they shouldn't even been mentioned here... P.D Also Slayer and Megadeth play thrash metal, Death played death metal, Slipknot nu "metal" etc
TheNewyorkdragon Glam and Hair Metal are the same thing so the fact that you didn't know that shows me you don't know what you're talking about. Def Leppard was considered Metal back when they were super radio popular but the standards for Metal got upped as the years went by and now they are Hard Rock. The Def Leppard the list talked about was the old Def Leppard considered heavy metal.
+Illuminator This comment deserves a million thumbs up. But there's also a high percentage of fucktards saying "omg how could you not include *random band that had no impact ever but I like a lot and it's cool to mention because they're kinda underground and stuff*??"
+masterpbk you missed the very small percentage of us that are actually able to tell the different genres apart and know that 50% of the bands mentioned either belongs to other sub genres of metal and in a single case is labeled as hard rock.
It's shameful that Judas Priest are placed so low on this list. They may have been the first band to actually *identify* as metal (unlike Deep Purple, Led Zep, Sabbath, AC/DC or the Scorpions) and they gave us so many of the genre's key sonic and visual hallmarks.
Only Sabbath is qualified as metal. Like, c'mon, they're the first to coined the term "metal". It has everything; the heaviness, the occult, dark subjects, apocalyptic riffs, attack drumming, and extended instrumentation. Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow is also the heaviest band in the mid-70s era with Rising.
@@leandrodasilvaborges1768 A Light in the Black gave birth to lot of power metal bands, and also Iron Maiden. Do You Close Your Eyes is the only song that I'd say straight up hard rock.
@@zackzallie8735 Okay, but I think the album, as a whole, is hard rock. But this album also has those references that you said. Wants to know? I'm not going to get into too much discussion because this album is a masterpiece and I can agree that it's one of the first pure metal albums, without the blues. That's it, I can agree with you. It really has that magic plus pure metal truly. Yeah, I think I just changed my mind, man. You're right, it is metal. I will not be stubborn and I will agree with you. It's a wonderful METAL album.
Bass guitar is an incorrect term. Acceptable terms are 'bass' or 'electric bass' thus making 'bassist' the correct term for someone who plays the instrument. This argument can go on forever since stubbornness and stupidity are best buds, but speaking as a bassist, I do not consider myself a guitarist.
was sober for a bit during Rust in peace before relapsing. i thought it was a nice shout out to a mustaine quote anyway, whereas he learned from Gar and Poland that you had to do heroine to be really great.
My Top 10: 10 Black Metal (Venom) 9 Symbolic (Death) 8 Vulgar Display of Power (Pantera) 7 Rust In Peace (Megadeth) 6 Reign In Blood (Slayer) 5 Ace of Spades (Motörhead) 4 Breaking the Law (Judas Priest) 3 The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden) 2 Master Of Puppets (Metallica) 1 Paranoid (Black Sabbath)
+ChernovFan100 But none to Helloween who have created a genre far more popular than Black and Death Metal. Not saying Death and Venom shouldn't be on this list, they definitely should be, but WatchMojo has been completely ignoring Power Metal in all their lists.
+R0DisG0D they didn't completely ignore it. They had DIO in the honorable mentions. Besides these lists are voted on by the fans. Watchmojo has very little actual control.
i think that the best and important album from Judas Priest is Sad wings of destiny because create the tradicional heavy metal (maiden, dio). Also British steel is very overrated
Mustaine was probably addicted to heroin but Ellefson had already gave up on heroin. Marty and Menza have said that they always had heard stories of drugs and they weren't willing to do drugs
@@tarman2752 I love "Arise", that record was one of the last Thrash masterpieces of the "classic" era of that subgenre, but liking or not "Chaos A.D." or "Roots" nobody can deny that they were something new, huge and largely influential for their time. That's the difference.
@Joshua Aguilar Metallica call themselves Heavy Metal. Nowadays there is more subgenres, it´s like people calling Black Sabbath Doom Metal. Heavy Metal was what it was int the start and what it always will be. You can´t really re-label things
No, they were always hard rock. It's like placing Megadeth as the best rap band. It doesn't make sene. Megadeth is one hell of a band, but it's just not rap.
When Def Leppard first started they were actually considered NWOBHM. Remember when Def Leppard released their first album in 1980 Thrash Metal, Death Metal, and all that stuff didn't exist. The heaviest stuff at that point was Motorhead. Venom wouldn't release their first album until 1981. So compared to their peers at the time Def Leppard was NWOBHM.
+IAintGivinOutMyRealNameOn RUclips "single handedly" I think not. Their cry baby friends Soundgarden, Alice n Chains, and Pearl Jam had a lot to do with it too.
+applemaggot dude, soundgarden was pretty freaking heavy on their first three or four albums, way out of place with AiC, pj and nirvana. I'd put them in the sludge/stoner metal/stoner rock category, more in line with the melvins unless you look solely at their last few, more poppy sounding albums. plus, without the melvins, you wouldn't have either whiny-ass nirvana nor sludge metal like eyehategod, crowbar, mastodon or today is the day, to name a few.
God, they have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about. I don't think anyone in watchmojo even listens to heavy metal. They always fuck up when it comes to making a list related to metal (remember Lars as #3 on metal drummers list?).
adam bickford Slayer over megadeth any day. Tom Araya's a catholic and he didn't pussy out of singing songs that offended his beliefs unlike a certain former Metallica guitarist.
Speed Metal was a term before Thrash Metal. No one knew what to call whatever Metallica or what Slayer were playing it but it was fast so hence the term Speed Metal
"From Phil Anselmo's gut wrenching vocals, to Dimebag's insane guitar work". How about Rex Brown's ground breaking bass playing and Vinnie's world class drumming ?
When did anyone overlook "Rust in Peace"? This album is a masterpiece with a few of Megadeth's finest songs (Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Tornado of Souls). And I think that I am not the only one who thinks of this album as a masterpiece.
Now seriously: Who listens to Metal and was ever like "Uh, I could really go for some Def Leppard! That's some hardcore Metal!!"... ?! Now, please write it down for future reference, WatchMojo: Def Leppard is not a Metal band: they play Hard Rock. And therefore: No, they didn't release any important "Metal albums" ... I mean, I could understand Van Halen, but Def Leppard? Come on! Next: Iron Maiden higher than Priest? Please, look up the timeline of Heavy Metal, and you'll see that Priest had a higher influence on Metal. As well as the look, just check out how Death or Black Metal fans dress, and you'll see what I mean... although I think it's still funny that the clothing style comes straight out of the dark rooms and porn shops of the gay hardcore scene, as Rob Halford, being gay himself, heavily borrowed from that look:) But hey: It works;) And lastly: Master of Puppets might be the best album of Metallica (by most critics at least), but Kill 'em All was by far more influential! Just think about Slayer, Megadeth, Testament, Anthrax, etc... and after all, this Top 10 is about the "most important albums" albums, not the "best albums". You could also say Importance = Influence, and that is mostly a question of when the album came out and how it was received then, not now! The only thing probably everybody can agree on is Black Sabbath, but hey: That's a dead giveway, if you'd root for any other album for Nr. 1, you really didn't pay attention to the history of Heavy Metal (or you're Gene Simmons and think you've created everything in music that has a guitar riff in it, plus the Devil's Horns;) PS: An honorable mention for "S.O.D. - Speak English or Die" would have been nice as one of the most important Crossover/Hardcore albums... as well one of the most metal albums of all time and in general! Seargent D./March of the S.O.D. still has one of the best riffs in Metal history! Plus, the lyrics are hilarious if you're not easily offended ;)
When Def Leppard first started they were actually considered NWOBHM. Remember when Def Leppard released their first album in 1980 Thrash Metal, Death Metal, and all that stuff didn't exist. The heaviest stuff at that point was Motorhead. Venom wouldn't release their first album until 1981. So compared to their peers at the time Def Leppard was NWOBHM.
Although you're right, "back then" is not now, and "now", Def Leppard are considered a hard rock band. Again: nothing against Def Leppard, great band! Just not a "Heavy Metal" band...
MrNodebate I personally can't stand Def Leppard. I had Pyromania when I was 13, but by Hysteria they were had completely watered themselves down to a ballad band. And it doesn't really matter what era it is, you can't rewrite history. What was NWOBHM still applies, that's why genres, and sub genres exist. Those early albums would fall under classic metal. I wouldn't consider anything they did after Pyromania metal though. It just annoys me that everyone wants to rewrite metal history, and change it's roots. It's like saying that Dolly Parton was never county because country has changed and is now Taylor Swift. Or that the Dead Kennedys were never punk, because Green Day is now considered punk.
Not even a nod to groundbreakers like King Diamond/Mercyful Fate, Candlemass, Scorpions, Accept, Therion, Nightwish, Dissection, Bathory or Mayhem. Some day, you guys need to dare the leap and look outside the US/UK scene.
+MatthewsGauss Problem is, this video series is produced in the USA. It would be far different if it had been made in Europe or by a European. And yes, nowhere close to enough attention given to those amazing genres. But then... it's better that way. It allows the true fans of extreme metal to find their own path to chaos. And that's half the fun of the metal brother- and sisterhood, no?
10.) Ace of Spades- Motörhead 9.) British Steel- Judas Priest 8.) Cowboys from Hell- Pantera 7.) High N Dry- Def Leopard 6.) Rust in Peace- Megadeath 5.) Reign in Blood- Slayer 4.) Blizzard of Oz- Ozzy Osbourne 3.) The Number of the Beast- Iron Maiden 2.) Master of Puppets- Metallica H.M 1.) Holy Diver- Dio 2.) Black Metal- Venom 3.) Roots- Sepultura 4.) Scream Bloody Gore- Death 5.) Slipknot- Slipknot 1.) Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath
You are allowed to have an incorrect opinion, that aside I'm the Man was important for crossover appeal, hell even DRI crossover should have made the list above Def fucking Leppard. Love or hate Anthrax (like Watchmojo seems to) saying they didn't have influence on the Thrash or metal scene in general is asinine and ignorant. But then again, not like this is top tier lists we are ever dealing with lol.
Tachanka yeah, Ozzy's album was more hard rock and the first 2 Def Lep albums are NWOBHM. You don't have to like it but that's how it is. And to wobbledrag: Anthrax? Are you kidding? First off, this video here was about albums, and "I'm the Man" was released as a 12" vinyl EP and the song was just featured there. I have this piece of crap music in my record collection. Also compared to Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer Anthrax were always the softer ones until the second half of the 90s. Also how often have you ever heard or read about somebody saying he was being influenced by Anthrax? Hahaha. Also this band always had the lowest number of album sales compared to the other 3.
i agree. but there's definitely a difference between what they were considered at the time, and what hindsight has defined them as in retrospect. it seems they formed in something of an overlap style that wasn't defined yet, and eventually settled into glam rock, power ballad, anthem, style stuff.
Although not everyone likes Slipknot, you can't deny their influence on a lot of metal that comes out today, even if its not your taste. It did have a pretty big impact
A lot of youngsters on here who do not know what they are talking about. 1977 -1984 Def Leppard was Heavy Metal. They helped create NWOBHM from which we got thrash, death, black and power metal. They toured with Iron Maiden, Ozzy and Judas Priest. 1983-1987 Pantera was glam. They wore make-up, teased their hair, wore spandex, the whole nine yards. They toured with Stryper, Dokken and the like. Obviously things changed. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
rocknroll_jezus9 Sorry for being late but Heavy metal and metal are the same thing according to wikipedia. Also i consider metal as a thick high distortion guitar sound. Def Leppard didn’t have that.
Wish you said metal instead of heavy metal. Metal heads get pissy when you include bands they don't think are heavy metal enough for they're confusing standards.
Yeah only sad metal elitists get all pissy about what is and what is not Metal most true metal heads don't get all pissy like that if it's Metal to them then it's Metal \m/
Top Ten Metal Albums That Aren't Actually Metal My list would go 10. Kiss - Destroyer 9. Nazareth - Hair Of The Dog 8. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade (but mention Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge) 7. Queen - News Of The World 6. King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King 5. The Used - In Love & Death 4. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV 3. The Cure - Disintegration 2. Jethro Tull - Aqualung Honorable mentions Rush - 2112 Chiodos - Bone Palace Ballet: Grand Coda Jimmy Eat World - Futures Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic Three Days Grace - One-X (Just to name a few) 1. Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell
My top 10 greatest heavy metal albums of all time. 10. Holy diver 9. Ace of spades 8. British steel 7. Cowboys from hell 6. Rust in peace 5. Regin in blood 4. Blizzard of ozz 3. The number of the beast 2. Master of puppets 1. Paranoid
Lee Torry no actually, most metalheads would be pissed off about that phrase yes, but you must understand, they were talking about metal as a whole, not one specific location’s sub genre scene. If they were talking about a specific thing then it fits, but since the whole genre is worldwide and has many sub genres, it just doesn’t add up
Lee Torry well you missed the point, and I’m saying that a lot of die hard metal fans, sorry if this sounds ignorant of me but, it seems like you are new to metal well at least newer
Top place cannot be disputed. Black Sabbath is the first metal album ever and by definition the most important one in the genre's history. However, 2nd place belongs to Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny. Way more important than Master of Puppets or any other album on this list below Black Sabbath, for one very simple reason: It was the very fist metal album that showed you don't need to sound like a Sabbath clone to be a metal band. In other words, it broke new ground and paved a way thousands followed. Without it, who knows who, when and where would come up with something fresh. No Sad Wings = no New Wave of British Heavy Metal and thus no Maiden, no Metallica etc. 3rd place belongs to Maiden's Number of the Beast (ironically, their least good album of the 80's in my opinion, but nonetheless their most important one). Then we can discuss about Metallica/Slayer/Ozzy/Pantera etc.
Agree with Priest at #2 but think that album should be "Stained Class" as that album, I believe, set the template for NWOBHM and also for speed & thrash metal. "Beyond the Realms of Death" is the blueprint for Metallica's "Fade to Black". "Savage" was the inspiration for Maiden's "Run to the Hills". Never before had heavy metal sounded so aggressive and sinister on top of being combined for the first time with flawless and brilliant riffs with knife-like precision. You cannot overstate the impact this album had on Heavy Metal from this point forward; NWOBHM, Speed and Thrash metal onward, I think this is the crowning achievement of Judas Priest.
Top 10 important metal albums. 10: Paranoid - black Sabbath 9: Ace of Spades - Motörhead 8: Black Metal - Venom 7: Seven Churches - Possessed 6: Scream Bloody Gore - Death 5: Number of the Beast - Iron Maiden 4: Spreading the Disease - Anthrax 3: Reign in Blood - Slayer 2: Rust in Peace - Megadeth 1: Master of Puppets - Metallica
First album with Heavy Metal on it: Led Zeppelin I, it inspired Black Sabbath who came later and Rip off Led Zeppelin riff in Paranoid Song; but most important the high pitched vocals in Led Zeppelin it's the Core of Heavy Metal genre.
My top 10 metal albums 1 Iron Maiden- somewhere in time 2 pantera- cowboys from hell 3 Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath 4 Iron Maiden- number of the beast 5 Judas Priest- stains class 6 Judas Priest- British steel 7 death- symbolic 8 Led Zeppelin- debut album 9 dio- holy diver 10 tool- Lateralus If I had to go odd 15 I’d add Def Leppard- hysteria Black Sabbath- masters of reality Iron Maiden- Powerslave Death- sound of perseverance Alice In Chains- dirt
Watchmojo, guys, maybe it's better if you don't ask "do you agree with our list" at the end of every video because if you do they'll RIP AND TEAR through you. I mean, seriously, it's not even a factor of people being butthurt, you said cliff burton was a guitarist when he was a bassist, you put def leppard or whatever way you spell it as an entry, you said slayer was speed metal etc. You might as well have dug your own grave with this one.
Diamondhead's Lightning to the Nations, Anvil's Metal on Metal and Anthrax's Spreading the Disease should have all got at least an Honorable Mention as all three albums were groundbreaking.
Oh and Def Leppard is my favorite band of all time, but I wouldn't put High N Dry on this list. Maybe a hard rock list but not a heavy metal list. Just my opinion
Guys... Black Album is not 'meh'. Yeah, it's not as good as their 80s material, but it's still a fuckin KICKASS LP. Sad But True, Unforgiven, Wherever I May Roam, Through The Never, My Friend Of Misery, etc... Awesome stuff.
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“Black Sabbath’s debut changed heavy metal like we’d never seen it before”
Yeah because you hadn’t seen it before they invented it with their first album.
Lol ikf
That's debatable, you clearly haven't heard of Led Zeppelin or Blue Cheer
shaggy 12001 they are not heavy metal
@@rocknroll_jezus9233 LZ, Blue Cheer, and Deep Purple definitely didn't create metal. It was fucking Sabbath ffs.
@@lance4842 never said Deep Purple, their metal sound came after Sabbath. Led Zeppelin 1 however was a huge influence to both Black Sabbath and Deep Purple. And Blue Cheer was the first with their cover of Summertime Blues from their debut album Vincebus Eruptum. It's not about just influence either. They had the sound too. The only difference from them and Black Sabbath was a tuned down guitar
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90℅ Def Leppard is not Metal
10℅ Cliff Burton Guitarist?
they are metal, just not heavy metal....
100% of stupid people like you make up their own statistics when they don't like the information they are given.
Don’t forget the comments saying how Black Sabbath didn’t change metal but created it
Black Sabbath didn't change Heavy Metal, they created it
no, source of sound go to Jimi Hendrix, they are officialy first band of heavy metal
Vilim bubaš Jimi Hendrix is not metal.
Vilim bubaš
Nope.
THELordOfHorns it is.
ROMMEL IVAN In interviews, members of Black Sabbath have attributed the creation of the genre to Led Zeppelin. The roots were laid by Led Zeppelin, and defined by Sabbath.
Cowboys From Hell is too far down on the list.
Also, calling Cliff Burton a guitarist is offensive
The bass is a guitar, but I agree!
They are fckn clueless most of the times
Yess i Now that
Both of these very true
yes, but cliff did also play the guitar, cos he wrote the intro for fight fire with fire....
9:32 unfortunatly, Master Of Puppets will be the last we would see guitarist Cliff Burton
We would see guitarist Cliff Burton
Guitarist Cliff Burton
Guitarist
Wtf
I mean, Cliff was so good he's considered a third guitarist. Listen to Orion with only bass.
It's called the Bass guitar
That one made my blood boil
FUCK WATCH MOJO 🖕🖕🖕🖕
"'Rust In Peace' is often overlooked compared to other Megadeth albums..."
What nonsense is this
Also “this album proves that you don’t need drugs to push out a masterpiece” Like what? Dave was a fucking heroin addict
@@nicolasreny221 I do think at this point he was fighting to stay sober for about a year but after the release he got back into drugs. I think this is what happened anyways
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And mustaine voice is horrible
@@mrgeorge8564 what does this to do with the main conversation!? Lol
@@underworldguardian6694 don't mind him bro he's probably a metallica fanboy that just want to insult dave 🤣
Def Leopard better then Motorhead?!? why do I torture myself with these lists!
This MOJO lists are mostly shit. Stupid American guys ;((
Yes Def Leppard is better then motorhead even though I like motorhead
@@karenschreurs7650a brave statement. Early leppard is great! But motörhead is going insane ;))
@@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117 I will admit I might be biased since Def Leppard is my favorite rock band but they should not be on this and should have been on their other rock lists.
@@karenschreurs7650 ... NOPE
So WATCHMOJO doesnt know who CLIFF BURTON is? 😂
That is sad because that guy is a legend HIS BASS PLAYING IS AMAZING when I didn’t even know who Metallica was 5 years ago I still knew who Cliff Burton was.
DIO Holy Diver not Def Leppard.
Yup
I'm with him
I don't disagree, I'm a fan of both. As for singers, no one compares to Dio. He could sing a menu and make it sound good. But, as for important, DL popularized British "metal" during MTV. This is what I think they were going for.
Dio We Rock for me. RIP, Ronnie James.
I argee
Def leopard higher on the list than pantera ? Are you serious
Pantera in their "Diamond Darrell" days before Phil joined (and even a bit after) were laughably LA scene... watch the video where they get out of the VW Bug. High & Dry for it's time was solid, a classic album. Now if you ask me to rate Cowboys from Hell against Adrenalize... well duh no contest, but DL chose to go pop so whatever. Anyway, for the usually lame WatchMojo it's a pretty solid list. Don't forget these albums span almost 20 years and sounds change. I would say HnD was closer to "real" original heavy metal than GNR ever was. BTW RJD got an honorable mention but Rainbow should have been on the list in the first place. Rock on!
Like Def Leppard but they should not be on this list
@pantera owns
Spelling Def LEPPARD incorrectly ............ARE YOU SERIOUS ? hehe
now... here we go again.. right ?
i don't know how many fucking times i've been in this cycle
so, i'll just post all my comment now, ok and i'll post yours as well so we don't need to through a bitch session
you are now probably going to say
"Martin, you're being a spelling nazi"
i'm then going to say to you
"you should fucking know the name of the band and how to spell it correctly"
You'll then get upset
you'll then tell me to calm down
i'll tell you that i am calm
you won't believe me
so you'll tell me to calm down again
then, just when everything settles
some other dickhead from the comments section will come in and say "Martin calm down" hehe
and the cycle continues
MATE, TRUST ME
THIS IS JUST A LOT EASIER IF YOU SIMPLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO SPELL THE NAME OF THE BAND CORRECTLY
oh, and you understand
- I am not triggered
- I am chill
- I am Calm
and all that sort of stuff
Def Leppard is a band that has been around forever, you should know how to spell their name
oh... yeah
you might also say you are not from an english background
IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE
if you know enough to know the band , you should know how to spell their name
there' sno excuse
Love Pantera , But Def Leppard is a great band.
Yes. Their album High N Dry was a phenomenal rock album. It was the greatest rock album in that moment in time. This was also during the time before Mtv got their hooks into Def Leppard and before there was any Speed Metal, Thrash or Hair Metal tags (Glam Rock was around since the New York Dolls btw). So we're talking about a time BEFORE Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Exodus & Anthrax. This is when the heaviest bands were Black Sabbath (with R.J.Dio), Blue Oyster Cult, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Van Halen, Scorpions, UFO & MSG.
Song: Black Sabbath/Album: Black Sabbath/Artist: Black Sabbath
Song: Iron Maiden / Album: Iron Maiden / Artist: Iron Maiden
Did you came here hoping for Symbolic or TSOP. Don't worry I did the same :P
I really think that the paranoid album was better than the black sabbath album
I really think that Mob Rules is better than the entire Ozzy Sabbath Discography except Never Say Die and 13 (Because I haven't heard them yet.)
Kurt Cometa song: Black Sabbath, album: Black Sabbath, artist: Black Sabbath, year: Black Sabbath, genre: BLACK SABBATH
*Sabbath CREATED metal.* What do you mean "changed"?
Yeah dude they only mentioned Zeppelin as the creators but not Sabbath? They both played a key role in the creation of metal.
They needed metalheads to make this list
Actually, Sabbath's debut was the first metal album, but it didn't include the first metal songs. There were metal songs before there were metal albums or bands. The creation of metal is attributed to the band Bitter Creek with their song "Plastic Thunder" released in 1967.
I think the logic behind that choice is “putting something into existence changes the thing from being nonexistent to existent”.
Black Sabbath didn't create METAL
They made it famous...
"Rust In Peace is often overlooked" - No it isn't, it's Megadeth's most popular album. "You don't need drugs..." - They were famously addicts.
Mustaine was briefly sober during the rust in peace time, and Ellefson had completely kicked by then. neither menza nor friedman were junkies.
i used to have to argue with people that Rust in peace was their best work. somehow people really used to argue for Youthanasia. these days Rust is known as an unrelenting masterpiece though.
Alcoholics too
it’s not even megadeth best album,rust in peace only have 3 great songs the rest are just decent
Love rust in peace but countdown is my favorite
Peace Sells is their greatest album in my opinion.
Black Sabbath was ground zero for Heavy Metal There should be a statue in Birmingham celebrating the birth place of metal
Thou hast mine vote.... The vote of a life-long fanatic....
At least they have a bridge in Birmingham now XD
Judas Priest is from Birmingham too.
@@dickdancingbear Know what's also from Birmingham? Tolkien, yeah
Hell Yeah!
A lot of things wrong with this:
1. They included the most well known or popular albums instead of the ones that actually helped progress and evolve the metal genre. For example, they chose British Steel instead of Sad Wings of Destiny or Sin After Sin that defined the elements of heavy metal
2.Def Leppard
3. Slayer didn't help define speed metal, it already existed, they did however define Extreme metal
4. Rust in Peace obviously isn't Megadeth's most underappreciated album
5. Cliff Burton wasn't a guitarist goddammit
6. While Master of Puppets is an undoubted masterpiece, Ride the Lightning was more unexpected and dynamic and it deserved the spot
That's all folks
Also they say "Black Sabbath changed heavy metal like never before" when they practically invented it.
That's all folks
As for the placement of albums on the list. that's up too the fans, watchmojo just makes the polls and hosts the results.
And no matter how much you want to deny it. Def Leppard is metal and the list said most important, not necessarily the best. Def Leopard were the progenitors of late 80's Glam metal. They were very important to the metal scene of the time.
+Michael T (TriggerManX97) i'm not gonna deny that Def leppard were influential for many metal artists but as far as being in the list is far fetched. Perhaps an honourable mention
Black Sabbath didn't "invent" metal. Yes, they were highly influential, but there already was bands like Sir Lord Baltimore, Vanilla Fudge, Iron Butterfly and Blue Cheer playing heavy as fuck.
+Daniel Ortiz Also half of the bands in the list are NOT "heavy" metal. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're not metal, but definitely not 'heavy'
9:31 this hurts my soul
Cliff burton is a bass guitarist
Wait what if Cliff’s spirit watched this. Also I was about to cry when they said that
Haha, they talk about Cliff Burton and they showed Robert Trujillo
Same
did you seriously just call Rust In Peace one of Megadeth's less loved albums? *facepalm*
lol, I was sure that it's one of their best albums.
Snoop Doge rust in peace wasn't that popular when it was first released, that might be what they're eluding to but still, I'm with you every megadeth fan loves that album haha
You mean Countdown To Extinction right? Because Symphony Of Destruction isn't an album, it's just a song on Countdown To Extinction. :)
tominatorxx countdown was a sellout album
Uhm... ok... I don't see what this has to do with what we were talking about...
"This album proves you don't need drugs to push out a heavy metal masterpiece."
... Mustaine was high off his ass on cocaine while writing Rust in Peace lol
Completely
+Alec Tucker There is a somewhat famous story that he showed up to the Hangar 18 video shoot so out of it that he couldn't sing and play at the same time, so some creative filming had to happen
+TyrionXavier Wasn't that during the cover of No More Mr. Nice Guy?
+AntonyPancake yeah what he said is from then ^
+Alec Tucker I was just about to comment that, does Watchmojo even do their research ?
WatchMojo, don't ever call Def Leppard "Metal" again
Tyler Sluys that's like calling Led Zeppelin metal. Close, but no cigar.
Triggered the metal police
They are Metal.
Wiki this shit. Everytime someone questions your logic, just wiki it. K?
Def Leppard is JUST AND NO MORE metal, shouldn’t be on this list, still a great band though
Watch mojo top ten guitarist list:
10:Jason Newsted
9:Kirk Hammet
8:John Entwistle
7:Robert Trujilo
666.Corey Taylor
5:Billy Sheehan
4:Jimi Hendrix
3:John Myung
2: Geddy Lee
1:CLIFF BURTON
😊
Les claypool as guitar virtuoso
RaJa 000 needs John Paul Jones
@@rockandroll7198 WOOOOOOOOSH
Most underrated comment
"Rust in Peace is often overlooked in comparison to Megadeth's other releases."
Bruh...what?
Seriously who wrote this freakin' script? RIP is always listed as their most highly regarded album in every publication for god's sake.
I know face palm 🤦🏼♂️
So stupid
Exactly
Elliot Shields it’s there best album
Lots of people say peace sells is MEGADETH’s best album so I can understand why they said that, but I think Rust In Peace is better
GUITARIST CLIFF BURTON ??? WTF WATCHMOJO HE WAS A BASSIST *sigh*
+Technic Gaming bass guitarist
still a guitarist
***** Nah m9 Would you call a Bongo Drummer a Drummer ? xD
+Technic Gaming Yes. I would.
Daniel Ives Well that is you :D
Technic Gaming anyone who knows anything about music would.
"You don't need drugs to pull off a heavy metal masterpiece." While you may be right, Rust in Peace was definitely made while on drugs.
exactly what i was thinking hahahahah
QuiXilver yeah Dave mustaine use héroïne for Rust in Peace
Composed "Darkest Hour" in 40 minutes with heroin
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mustaine was sober during the recording of *RIP*. Fact.
Cliff wasn't a guitarist he was a bassist and they didn't even show cliff once even though there are tons of footage of him playing master of puppets songs. On top of that he wrote most of the stuff. Disrespectful mojo.
Black sabbath, from Black Sabbath, by Black Sabbath.
jajaja
Yup. Pretty much started it all. Well, it did start it all.
Iron Maiden from Iron Maiden, by Iron Maiden
And iron maiden talks about a literal iron maiden (aka a big iron coffin shaped like a woman with spikes all along the inside used to torture people) and even though i'm not 100% sure i've heard that black sabbath talks about a literal black sabbath aka a black mass (not sure though because i don't know the lyrics).
The implement you describe never existed, other than as fake examples for decorating stately homes and appearing in horror films, and even if it did, a 'literal' iron maiden would be a virgin made of iron.
(The editor is fan of Def Leppard)
or they know what true metal is
Early def leppard was metal/hard rock
I a fam Of Def Leppard
I'm no elitist, but Def Leppard?
have a listen to their first 3 records. Mainly NWOBHM with a hint of pop/rock. Anything Rick Savage wrote was metal, have a listen to no no no, stagefright, or another hit and run.
I've carried a copy of High and Dry with me for decades . . . Tape in my car, then CD now on Itunes.
They used to be a Heavy Metal band just like Iron Maiden however they turn into a Glam metal/Hard Rock band (the one that let other Glam Metal bands being successful)!!!
@Xd xd D,skks Agreed! Old Leppard is enjoyable, but deffo not metal!
With These photo Of perfil
You are not Elitism You are Kid......
wacthmojo is like a 14 year old that just discovered metal
Yeah, this list is pretty bad.
I am 14 year old, I listen to metal and I am not at watchmojo level
Dude, seriously, cliff is a fucking bassist
More like 9 years old but other than that yeah
I was 14 when I discovered metal and I can tell this list is crap and the fact they called Cliff Burton a guitarist proves my point.
@@juanmanuelcastaneda8147 wait really?
I didnt watch the full video because it was so bad haha
Def Leppard is an AMAZING band and one of my long time favorites, but how the heck did you get them in a "Most Important Metal Album" list???
mrhoffame their sound may not be heavy but they are considered a glam metal band
Eleni Tsou You are right and I SOOO disagree with that lol. I have them filed in my "Hard Rock" section :) My other pet peeve is when People call AC/DC metal! That one drives me crazy too.
mrhoffame hahaha I totally agree with you! they're definitely hard rock. people can be so ignorant :p :p
Eleni Tsou I know. It is almost like anything played with an electric/distorted guitar is "metal". I think that is why Heavy Metal has never really gotten it's due and respect in the world of music. Especially when you look at places like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The only real metal band in there is AC/DC. The older, 60's farts who only think The Beatles and Joni Mitchel (whom I like both lol) don't know how nor have they tried to actual understand and get into the world of heavy metal. It is so foreign to them that they lump it all together where in their minds there is really no difference between Nelson or Overkill lol. If the Hall Of Fame is suppose to be about influence in music history how can they not have a Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, or Scorpions in there? ...because for them if it ain't hippie and ain't dam skippie! (Did I really just type that lol) Heck, look how long it took them to get Kiss, Deep Purple, and Alice Cooper In. That alone should tell us that it will be decades if Metal ever will get a fair shot. IMO>
mrhoffame you're right..metal bands are so underrated especially today, and don't forget all the stereotypes and false beliefs around metal music. I don't really think metal will ever be appreciated by people who know nothing about it
Why is Guns and Def Leppard In here
Cuz they were marketed as metal back in the day. Kind of like saying hank williams isn't country because stuff like Luke Bryan is called country today
Idk I consider gnr to be hard rock. Paradise city has a heavy riff though. But idk why Def Leppard is there.
Probably because they influenced metal, you don’t have to be a metal band to influence another, for example Lemmy was heavily influenced by early rock and roll.
Guns isn’t in
Hair metal counts
Dio Holy Diver should be on there!!
for real and so should slipknot
I still love Holy Diver! It was and still is one of the greatest efforts of all time! Fresh out of Black Sabbath and ready to conquer the world which is exactly what Ronnie James Dio and his band with Vivian Campbell in particular accomplishment! I was so fortunate to see that tour and was blown away!
By the way thanks for bringing that up brother!!!!
My picks by importance standarts (no order)
Metallica - Kill Em All
Black Sabbath S/T
Possessed - Seven Churches
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Nothern Sky
Motorhead - Overkill
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Venom - Black Metal
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Iron Maiden S/T
Judas Priest - Screaming
For Vengeance
Slipknot self titled is definitely arguable, but imo its worthy of the list, not high on the list because I can recognize that there are way more influential albums out there, but it is still a classic
Holy Diver should have made it to the list. Dio is one of the biggest metal icons. I love Def Leppard, but they shouldn't even been mentioned here...
P.D Also Slayer and Megadeth play thrash metal, Death played death metal, Slipknot nu "metal" etc
I agree
Look man, let the plebs say what they want, they don't know what metal truly is
I never thought of Def Leppard as heavy metal either, just plain old rock
Monica Carden Are you really gonna say Iowa isn’t a metal album?
Monica Carden you're awesome.
I would not consider Def Leppard heavy metal
+Dominick Ferrara After Histeria they stopped being heavy.But back then they were consider part of the NWOBHM.
they're hair/glam metal. at their time, they were metal.
Back then they were part of the "New Wave of British Heavy Metal" scene
They were pop metal
TheNewyorkdragon Glam and Hair Metal are the same thing so the fact that you didn't know that shows me you don't know what you're talking about. Def Leppard was considered Metal back when they were super radio popular but the standards for Metal got upped as the years went by and now they are Hard Rock. The Def Leppard the list talked about was the old Def Leppard considered heavy metal.
Comment Section:
90% "Guitarist Cliff Burton ?!?!?!"
10% "this is hard rock not heavy metal"
True lol
+Illuminator This comment deserves a million thumbs up. But there's also a high percentage of fucktards saying "omg how could you not include *random band that had no impact ever but I like a lot and it's cool to mention because they're kinda underground and stuff*??"
+Illuminator
Shit is too funny.
+masterpbk you missed the very small percentage of us that are actually able to tell the different genres apart and know that 50% of the bands mentioned either belongs to other sub genres of metal and in a single case is labeled as hard rock.
Requiem
What
Not the OP m80
I was laughing at what he said.
"Dio - Holy DIver" should definitely be on TOP 5. Kings of Heavy Metal
So true!!!!!!!!!!
It's shameful that Judas Priest are placed so low on this list. They may have been the first band to actually *identify* as metal (unlike Deep Purple, Led Zep, Sabbath, AC/DC or the Scorpions) and they gave us so many of the genre's key sonic and visual hallmarks.
Only Sabbath is qualified as metal. Like, c'mon, they're the first to coined the term "metal". It has everything; the heaviness, the occult, dark subjects, apocalyptic riffs, attack drumming, and extended instrumentation. Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow is also the heaviest band in the mid-70s era with Rising.
@@zackzallie8735 Rising is not metal, it is hard rock. And Led Zeppelin is the root of it all, And Sabbath created metal.
@@leandrodasilvaborges1768 A Light in the Black gave birth to lot of power metal bands, and also Iron Maiden. Do You Close Your Eyes is the only song that I'd say straight up hard rock.
@@zackzallie8735 Okay, but I think the album, as a whole, is hard rock. But this album also has those references that you said. Wants to know? I'm not going to get into too much discussion because this album is a masterpiece and I can agree that it's one of the first pure metal albums, without the blues. That's it, I can agree with you. It really has that magic plus pure metal truly. Yeah, I think I just changed my mind, man. You're right, it is metal. I will not be stubborn and I will agree with you. It's a wonderful METAL album.
Guitarist Cliff Burton?
+Marko Jerkić I said the same thing
+Marko Jerkić Mojo cant even do their research right anymore...
+Iron Joja Does anybody need research about Cliff's basic informations?Too lame...
+Marko Jerkić He plays Bass Guitar so technically he is
Bass guitar is an incorrect term. Acceptable terms are 'bass' or 'electric bass' thus making 'bassist' the correct term for someone who plays the instrument. This argument can go on forever since stubbornness and stupidity are best buds, but speaking as a bassist, I do not consider myself a guitarist.
"you dont need drugs to push out a heavy metal masterpiece".... uh Mustaine was on heroin...
was sober for a bit during Rust in peace before relapsing. i thought it was a nice shout out to a mustaine quote anyway, whereas he learned from Gar and Poland that you had to do heroine to be really great.
Spencer Rees he didnt write the fuckin script
Dave was on everything!
Spencer Rees except rush. They didn’t need that stuff to be great
My Top 10:
10 Black Metal (Venom)
9 Symbolic (Death)
8 Vulgar Display of Power (Pantera)
7 Rust In Peace (Megadeth)
6 Reign In Blood (Slayer)
5 Ace of Spades (Motörhead)
4 Breaking the Law (Judas Priest)
3 The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)
2 Master Of Puppets (Metallica)
1 Paranoid (Black Sabbath)
True TOP
Vulgar is to low. Vulgar saved Metal after Grunge took over and bands like Metallica we’re going for a Hard Rock sound.
Oh judas Priest released an album Called “breaking the law”? Alright might check it out since i love the song from British steel
I am so happy that they gave special mentions to Death and Venom.
+ChernovFan100 But none to Helloween who have created a genre far more popular than Black and Death Metal. Not saying Death and Venom shouldn't be on this list, they definitely should be, but WatchMojo has been completely ignoring Power Metal in all their lists.
+R0DisG0D they didn't completely ignore it. They had DIO in the honorable mentions. Besides these lists are voted on by the fans. Watchmojo has very little actual control.
They shouldn't have been honourable mentions - they should've been in the top 10.
Michael T
Dio had a lot of influence on Power Metal but Helloween created the archetype for Power Metal that is still quite popular today.
+R0DisG0D since when is power metal more famous then death metal??
Guitarist cliff burton? come on watchmojo
I'm not the only one that notice it then but when he went to do solo's it sounded like he was on a guitar lol awe man r.i.p cliff
Urban ninja 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭r.i.p. cliff
Dank Bonk ripper 73 cliff is the best I hate iron maiden
ray you just hate metal then if you hate iron maiden but whatever that's your opinion
Well I love metal I'm a giant metal head I know many many metal bands my favorites are Metallica slayer and pantera
i think that the best and important album from Judas Priest is Sad wings of destiny because create the tradicional heavy metal (maiden, dio). Also British steel is very overrated
i agree with you. Sad wings of destiny its even more important than black sabbath.
Stained Class?
Def Leppard: glam metal cliff Burton: bassist
Def Leppard = Hard Rock
Prophets From Hell Music “glam metal” and “pop metal” are dumbest, most oxymoron sounding sub genre names ever
im sorry but their are glam af, just look at photograph and put some sugar on me
Perhaps, but this top 10 is not so bad.
5:33 correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure mustaine, ellefson, menza and friedman were all addicted on heroin when they made rust in peace
SchlegelREV Lol... They were
maybe they were joking? like sarcastically
Mustaine was probably addicted to heroin but Ellefson had already gave up on heroin. Marty and Menza have said that they always had heard stories of drugs and they weren't willing to do drugs
SchlegelREV actually that was during a clean period and Mustaine wouldn't relapse until about the countdown to extinction tour
SchlegelREV ok i try heroin And i will be metal best guitarists ever :D
Don’t know why everyone loves roots album I always thought chaos AD was a masterpiece compared to roots
And there wouldn't be "Roots" without "Chaos A.D.".
Chaos over roots🤘🏻
Arise smacks both of them
@@tarman2752 I love "Arise", that record was one of the last Thrash masterpieces of the "classic" era of that subgenre, but liking or not "Chaos A.D." or "Roots" nobody can deny that they were something new, huge and largely influential for their time. That's the difference.
Rodrigo F. R. de Souza Oh yeah there’s no doubt about that, and Arise was a very influential album to death metal as well.
List is decent. Narrator knows nothing. Calls Megadeth a Metallica ripoff and Cliff Burton a guitarist.
I know right that's what I commented about too
he's reading a script
He said they weren't just another metalica ripoff
,,Top 10 important albums in heavy metal history"
Watch mojo: * puts hard rock and thrash metal albums *
_sinead_ they could’ve just said “metal history” but instead they put heavy
_sinead_ people use heavy metal and metal interchangable
@Joshua Aguilar Metallica call themselves Heavy Metal. Nowadays there is more subgenres, it´s like people calling Black Sabbath Doom Metal. Heavy Metal was what it was int the start and what it always will be. You can´t really re-label things
WatchMojo + Death = ??? Am I hallucinating?!
Yes.
Rostislav Proto hell yea fucking chuck!
Def Leppard shouldn't be here
Thank you!!! Totally agree
Matheus Navarro 1000 present agree. They are hard rock or pop rock
Matheus Navarro ikr Deaf Leppard is like hard/glam rock
No, they were always hard rock. It's like placing Megadeth as the best rap band. It doesn't make sene. Megadeth is one hell of a band, but it's just not rap.
When Def Leppard first started they were actually considered NWOBHM. Remember when Def Leppard released their first album in 1980 Thrash Metal, Death Metal, and all that stuff didn't exist. The heaviest stuff at that point was Motorhead. Venom wouldn't release their first album until 1981. So compared to their peers at the time Def Leppard was NWOBHM.
PANTERA should be #1. They single handedly saved metal in the 90s when everyone was cutting their hair and crybaby grunge was taking over.
+Sith Lord Mike Rich well the beatles did it first
+TexasSmoking Ironic then that Nirvana, "a crybaby grunge" band, single handedly saved the entire rock genre in the 90s.
+IAintGivinOutMyRealNameOn RUclips "single handedly" I think not. Their cry baby friends Soundgarden, Alice n Chains, and Pearl Jam had a lot to do with it too.
+applemaggot dude, soundgarden was pretty freaking heavy on their first three or four albums, way out of place with AiC, pj and nirvana. I'd put them in the sludge/stoner metal/stoner rock category, more in line with the melvins unless you look solely at their last few, more poppy sounding albums. plus, without the melvins, you wouldn't have either whiny-ass nirvana nor sludge metal like eyehategod, crowbar, mastodon or today is the day, to name a few.
Jim M I can't argue against that. Well said.
“Guitarist Cliff Burton”
Guitarist
b r u h
I've got my dads original Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath vinyl. Its amazing!
God, they have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about. I don't think anyone in watchmojo even listens to heavy metal. They always fuck up when it comes to making a list related to metal (remember Lars as #3 on metal drummers list?).
"Heavy metal list"
*Puts 4 thrash metal albums and 1 hard rock album
I am surprised they haven't put Jethro Tull on one of those metal list videos.
The flute is a heavy, metal instrument...
Slayer over megadeth? Def Leppard over Pantera?? Yeah, this is credible.
adam bickford
Slayer over megadeth any day. Tom Araya's a catholic and he didn't pussy out of singing songs that offended his beliefs unlike a certain former Metallica guitarist.
Slayer might be the best metal band ever
Not to mention Pop-tallica...oops, I mean Metallica over Iron Maiden. When I saw the Number of Beast place at 3rd I knew the list was clearly biased.
Slayer is 10 times better than Megadeth....... seen them both live!!!
Don't get me wrong I think High N' Dry is an awesome album but it's Hard Rock
how did reign in blood contribute to speed metal? that album is thrash at its finest
I thought you said "trash"
Speed Metal was a term before Thrash Metal. No one knew what to call whatever Metallica or what Slayer were playing it but it was fast so hence the term Speed Metal
Andrew Louis
Exactly 🤘🏻
I thought you said trash I was about to flip out
"From Phil Anselmo's gut wrenching vocals, to Dimebag's insane guitar work".
How about Rex Brown's ground breaking bass playing and Vinnie's world class drumming ?
Please don’t tell me they said “Guitarist Cliff Burton”
This is why MUSIC is miss labeled.. I bet no one at mojo played an instrument ever! The fucking triangle in school does not count!! FUKKIN NOBZ!
Well they also said Def Leopard was metal sp
When did anyone overlook "Rust in Peace"? This album is a masterpiece with a few of Megadeth's finest songs (Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Tornado of Souls). And I think that I am not the only one who thinks of this album as a masterpiece.
Now seriously: Who listens to Metal and was ever like "Uh, I could really go for some Def Leppard! That's some hardcore Metal!!"... ?!
Now, please write it down for future reference, WatchMojo: Def Leppard is not a Metal band: they play Hard Rock. And therefore: No, they didn't release any important "Metal albums" ... I mean, I could understand Van Halen, but Def Leppard? Come on!
Next: Iron Maiden higher than Priest? Please, look up the timeline of Heavy Metal, and you'll see that Priest had a higher influence on Metal. As well as the look, just check out how Death or Black Metal fans dress, and you'll see what I mean... although I think it's still funny that the clothing style comes straight out of the dark rooms and porn shops of the gay hardcore scene, as Rob Halford, being gay himself, heavily borrowed from that look:) But hey: It works;)
And lastly: Master of Puppets might be the best album of Metallica (by most critics at least), but Kill 'em All was by far more influential! Just think about Slayer, Megadeth, Testament, Anthrax, etc... and after all, this Top 10 is about the "most important albums" albums, not the "best albums". You could also say Importance = Influence, and that is mostly a question of when the album came out and how it was received then, not now!
The only thing probably everybody can agree on is Black Sabbath, but hey: That's a dead giveway, if you'd root for any other album for Nr. 1, you really didn't pay attention to the history of Heavy Metal (or you're Gene Simmons and think you've created everything in music that has a guitar riff in it, plus the Devil's Horns;)
PS: An honorable mention for "S.O.D. - Speak English or Die" would have been nice as one of the most important Crossover/Hardcore albums... as well one of the most metal albums of all time and in general! Seargent D./March of the S.O.D. still has one of the best riffs in Metal history! Plus, the lyrics are hilarious if you're not easily offended ;)
skuyo0703 On the other hand, you're right ;)
I don't read all your comment, but yes, def leppard in this list is ridicolous
When Def Leppard first started they were actually considered NWOBHM. Remember when Def Leppard released their first album in 1980 Thrash Metal, Death Metal, and all that stuff didn't exist. The heaviest stuff at that point was Motorhead. Venom wouldn't release their first album until 1981. So compared to their peers at the time Def Leppard was NWOBHM.
Although you're right, "back then" is not now, and "now", Def Leppard are considered a hard rock band. Again: nothing against Def Leppard, great band! Just not a "Heavy Metal" band...
MrNodebate I personally can't stand Def Leppard. I had Pyromania when I was 13, but by Hysteria they were had completely watered themselves down to a ballad band. And it doesn't really matter what era it is, you can't rewrite history. What was NWOBHM still applies, that's why genres, and sub genres exist. Those early albums would fall under classic metal. I wouldn't consider anything they did after Pyromania metal though. It just annoys me that everyone wants to rewrite metal history, and change it's roots. It's like saying that Dolly Parton was never county because country has changed and is now Taylor Swift. Or that the Dead Kennedys were never punk, because Green Day is now considered punk.
Not even a nod to groundbreakers like King Diamond/Mercyful Fate, Candlemass, Scorpions, Accept, Therion, Nightwish, Dissection, Bathory or Mayhem.
Some day, you guys need to dare the leap and look outside the US/UK scene.
Sucks that nobody pays attention to black or death metal as much as they should. shit I was surprised that death even got mentioned.
Not mainstream enough.
+MatthewsGauss Problem is, this video series is produced in the USA. It would be far different if it had been made in Europe or by a European. And yes, nowhere close to enough attention given to those amazing genres. But then... it's better that way. It allows the true fans of extreme metal to find their own path to chaos. And that's half the fun of the metal brother- and sisterhood, no?
"What?? Master of Puppets not being first???"
"Oh yes, I forgot the very first metal album "
u crazy ? Black Sabbath !!!!
Of course. Its thrash.
Far beyond Driven !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
acc 320 Oh wait. So thrash is not the sub genre of Heavy metal? 👀
acc 320 i hope u realize black sabbath makes metallica look like crap on a stick
I’ve always considered the first two Def Leppard albums Metal. After Pyromania was released, they became more of a pop rock band.
Watch out for the rock brigade!
Def was never metal, hard rock yes but not metal
Am i the only one that thinks Ride the Lightning and Kill em All were better than MoP
MrCapone1996 I think ride the lightning is the best
i think AJFA is the best
MrCapone1996 me personally i like Ride The Lightning the most but the top three best go
1. AJFA
2. MoP
3. RTL
Imo
no you're not, those are my two favorite in that order, with justice, yes justice, after that. MOP is not my fav metallica album. sorry.
MrCapone1996 Nope. RIDE is Metallica's best 80's album. KEA, MOP, and AFJA is amazing but the work on Lightning is phenomenonal
Def Leppard is GLAM and GNR is hard rock. None are metal!
Def Leppard istn Glam Gay Metal is Hard Rock
Glam metal is still metal
Def Leppard's earlier albums are considered as classics of NWOBHM so no, Def Leppard is metal.
How hard is that to comprehend?
Just here making sure Black Sabbath was number one. Carry on.
Lol. Sick comment
I'm here to see if Deep Purple made the list and I'm disappointed.
@@itzdm0r3 yea purple should be up here but sabbath was an obvious number 1
10.) Ace of Spades- Motörhead
9.) British Steel- Judas Priest
8.) Cowboys from Hell- Pantera
7.) High N Dry- Def Leopard
6.) Rust in Peace- Megadeath
5.) Reign in Blood- Slayer
4.) Blizzard of Oz- Ozzy Osbourne
3.) The Number of the Beast- Iron Maiden
2.) Master of Puppets- Metallica
H.M
1.) Holy Diver- Dio
2.) Black Metal- Venom
3.) Roots- Sepultura
4.) Scream Bloody Gore- Death
5.) Slipknot- Slipknot
1.) Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath
Not including Holy Diver is an atrocity!
3 out of the big 4, why does watchmojo hate Anthrax, also def leppard, lol
I'm sorry but personally anthrax is the worst out of the big 4
You are allowed to have an incorrect opinion, that aside I'm the Man was important for crossover appeal, hell even DRI crossover should have made the list above Def fucking Leppard. Love or hate Anthrax (like Watchmojo seems to) saying they didn't have influence on the Thrash or metal scene in general is asinine and ignorant. But then again, not like this is top tier lists we are ever dealing with lol.
And fuck watchmojo: Top 10 important HEAVY metal albums, puts 4 THRASH metal albums and 1 HARD ROCK album
Dazer Gameplays 2.0 reloaded Anthrax has more musicallity than Slayer 0000
Tachanka yeah, Ozzy's album was more hard rock and the first 2 Def Lep albums are NWOBHM. You don't have to like it but that's how it is. And to wobbledrag: Anthrax? Are you kidding? First off, this video here was about albums, and "I'm the Man" was released as a 12" vinyl EP and the song was just featured there. I have this piece of crap music in my record collection. Also compared to Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer Anthrax were always the softer ones until the second half of the 90s. Also how often have you ever heard or read about somebody saying he was being influenced by Anthrax? Hahaha. Also this band always had the lowest number of album sales compared to the other 3.
"Scream Bloody Gore" should have been on this list.
No
Yes
Black Sabbath created! Led just flirted next and then left.
LED was the root of everything. Sabbath, influenced by Led, created the purest metal.
Def Leppard aren't Metal they're 80s hard rock
**glam metal (tho this list is heavy metal so def leppard still shouldnt be here)
Lothar Mallea I'm guessing you have not listened to all of high n dry because you can tell it's nwobhm
RIP AND TEAR i have. Ive also heard black sabbath...
No they re metal
i agree. but there's definitely a difference between what they were considered at the time, and what hindsight has defined them as in retrospect. it seems they formed in something of an overlap style that wasn't defined yet, and eventually settled into glam rock, power ballad, anthem, style stuff.
Def Leppard over Judas Priest. All credibility instantly gone.
lol
"Mojo whatever" doesn't know s%€t!
Yeah, and where's Warrant??
As a metalhead, I'm pretty impressed with the list, minus the slipknot.
Slipknot is amazing
Although not everyone likes Slipknot, you can't deny their influence on a lot of metal that comes out today, even if its not your taste. It did have a pretty big impact
+Soco8025 I agree. Guilty pleasure admission...I actually like some Slipknot but they shouldn't be close to a top ten of all time list...
i would have replaced high n dry with pyromania tho
+TheGanem10 that is 3rd most metal thing on the list
Metallica's Master of Puppets is, hands down, my favorite metal album.
Philip Riggio it was the one that set them for success
Philip Riggio ride the lighting is better my opinion
Mine is Powerslave - Iron Maiden
Mine is Rust in Peace (1990 version), hands down.
A lot of youngsters on here who do not know what they are talking about.
1977 -1984 Def Leppard was Heavy Metal. They helped create NWOBHM from which we got thrash, death, black and power metal. They toured with Iron Maiden, Ozzy and Judas Priest.
1983-1987 Pantera was glam. They wore make-up, teased their hair, wore spandex, the whole nine yards. They toured with Stryper, Dokken and the like.
Obviously things changed. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
100% couldn't agree more, people just dont understand that Heavy Metal and Metal are two different things
Why this is true everyone knows them as a hair metal band
rocknroll_jezus9 Sorry for being late but Heavy metal and metal are the same thing according to wikipedia. Also i consider metal as a thick high distortion guitar sound. Def Leppard didn’t have that.
@@lambsauce9404 Def Leppard is Heavy Metal until Pyromania I Like You The band Or not
R.I.P LEMMY
Wish you said metal instead of heavy metal. Metal heads get pissy when you include bands they don't think are heavy metal enough for they're confusing standards.
+oliver small Many consider heavy metal to be it's own subgenre of metal.
+Torwulf games ^
Confusing to you, clear to others
You're thinking of metal elitists.
Yeah only sad metal elitists get all pissy about what is and what is not Metal most true metal heads don't get all pissy like that if it's Metal to them then it's Metal \m/
Top Ten Metal Albums That Aren't Actually Metal
My list would go
10. Kiss - Destroyer
9. Nazareth - Hair Of The Dog
8. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade (but mention Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge)
7. Queen - News Of The World
6. King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
5. The Used - In Love & Death
4. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
3. The Cure - Disintegration
2. Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Honorable mentions
Rush - 2112
Chiodos - Bone Palace Ballet: Grand Coda
Jimmy Eat World - Futures
Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic
Three Days Grace - One-X
(Just to name a few)
1. Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell
My top 10 greatest heavy metal albums of all time.
10. Holy diver
9. Ace of spades
8. British steel
7. Cowboys from hell
6. Rust in peace
5. Regin in blood
4. Blizzard of ozz
3. The number of the beast
2. Master of puppets
1. Paranoid
Oh dear god. Did The Person That Wrote The List Seriously Say “Scene” WatchMojo, you just pissed off every Metalhead
Nigga, are you offended by the phrase "metal scene"?
Lee Torry no actually, most metalheads would be pissed off about that phrase yes, but you must understand, they were talking about metal as a whole, not one specific location’s sub genre scene. If they were talking about a specific thing then it fits, but since the whole genre is worldwide and has many sub genres, it just doesn’t add up
@@legionarydecanus9700 Nigga, are you implying that a majority of metalheads are offended by the phrase "metal scene"?
Lee Torry well you missed the point, and I’m saying that a lot of die hard metal fans, sorry if this sounds ignorant of me but, it seems like you are new to metal well at least newer
THEY WERE MOTORHEAD AND THEY PLAYED ROCK N ROLL.NEVER FORGET THIS.
im a big pantera fan, always love listening to it while preparing for combat patrol in my ipod
Who isn’t? Oh right, Karen’s and Soy Boys, they would RUIN Pantera today if Pantera was around.
if you're going to through a hair metal band in there use van halen or motley crue not fucking def leppard
Top place cannot be disputed. Black Sabbath is the first metal album ever and by definition the most important one in the genre's history. However, 2nd place belongs to Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny. Way more important than Master of Puppets or any other album on this list below Black Sabbath, for one very simple reason: It was the very fist metal album that showed you don't need to sound like a Sabbath clone to be a metal band. In other words, it broke new ground and paved a way thousands followed. Without it, who knows who, when and where would come up with something fresh. No Sad Wings = no New Wave of British Heavy Metal and thus no Maiden, no Metallica etc.
3rd place belongs to Maiden's Number of the Beast (ironically, their least good album of the 80's in my opinion, but nonetheless their most important one). Then we can discuss about Metallica/Slayer/Ozzy/Pantera etc.
Maiden and priest are butt rock
Agree with Priest at #2 but think that album should be "Stained Class" as that album, I believe, set the template for NWOBHM and also for speed & thrash metal. "Beyond the Realms of Death" is the blueprint for Metallica's "Fade to Black". "Savage" was the inspiration for Maiden's "Run to the Hills". Never before had heavy metal sounded so aggressive and sinister on top of being combined for the first time with flawless and brilliant riffs with knife-like precision. You cannot overstate the impact this album had on Heavy Metal from this point forward; NWOBHM, Speed and Thrash metal onward, I think this is the crowning achievement of Judas Priest.
Dearg Doom your an idiot Sad Wings over Master your an idiot priest wasn’t priest before British Steel n even that can’t get up to the level of Master
Top 10 Video Games Where Decisions Matter
+Dk Soulstice we all know the telltales the walking dead would be #1
I think they already did this. Maybe not.
+CrispTugBoat48 You misspelled Tales From the Borderlands.
+Dk Soulstice
#1: Super Mario Bros. If you decide to press left, Mario goes left! If you decide to press right, he goes right!
Fernie Canto holy fuck!
Top 10 important metal albums.
10: Paranoid - black Sabbath
9: Ace of Spades - Motörhead
8: Black Metal - Venom
7: Seven Churches - Possessed
6: Scream Bloody Gore - Death
5: Number of the Beast - Iron Maiden
4: Spreading the Disease - Anthrax
3: Reign in Blood - Slayer
2: Rust in Peace - Megadeth
1: Master of Puppets - Metallica
Magic Steve worst list ever lol
How could it be improved?
Well, ya got number one right. Best band EVER. although, my favorite album is Sabbath bloody Sabbath.
They didn’t even get that right! They said Black Sabbath’s Black Sabbath Album *Changed* Heavy Metal Like never before.
Me: sees Def Leppard #7 and Pantera #8
Also me: WHAT THE F***?!!!?!
I preffer Def Leppard than Crappy Nu Metal.
And My Favorite are Carcass, Death, Suicidal Tendencies etc.
DEEP PURPLE ,RAINBOW, DIO ???
There should be an album from all 3 on here. Leaving "In Rock" out of this list is unforgivable..
Deep Purple is on the hard rock list.
Half of the list is trash
dchenkin02 Wrong. They are considered metal. At least 70s metal.
Leaving "Rising" off this list IS pretty egregious.
I'm surprised. I really thought Paranoid was going to be number one.
First album with Heavy Metal on it: Led Zeppelin I, it inspired Black Sabbath who came later and Rip off Led Zeppelin riff in Paranoid Song; but most important the high pitched vocals in Led Zeppelin it's the Core of Heavy Metal genre.
Nothing will ever top Rust in Peace. In all music not just Heavy Metal.
I am 54 years old was 14 when I first heard the first Sabbath album. Still can’t stop listening to it to this day 🤟🏻
My top 10 metal albums
1 Iron Maiden- somewhere in time
2 pantera- cowboys from hell
3 Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath
4 Iron Maiden- number of the beast
5 Judas Priest- stains class
6 Judas Priest- British steel
7 death- symbolic
8 Led Zeppelin- debut album
9 dio- holy diver
10 tool- Lateralus
If I had to go odd 15 I’d add
Def Leppard- hysteria
Black Sabbath- masters of reality
Iron Maiden- Powerslave
Death- sound of perseverance
Alice In Chains- dirt
Watchmojo, guys, maybe it's better if you don't ask "do you agree with our list" at the end of every video because if you do they'll RIP AND TEAR through you. I mean, seriously, it's not even a factor of people being butthurt, you said cliff burton was a guitarist when he was a bassist, you put def leppard or whatever way you spell it as an entry, you said slayer was speed metal etc. You might as well have dug your own grave with this one.
Diamondhead's Lightning to the Nations, Anvil's Metal on Metal and Anthrax's Spreading the Disease should have all got at least an Honorable Mention as all three albums were groundbreaking.
Black Album, Peace Sells, Cowboys From Hell, Far Beyond Driven, Master Of Puppets, Ride The Lightning are my favorites
Oh and Def Leppard is my favorite band of all time, but I wouldn't put High N Dry on this list. Maybe a hard rock list but not a heavy metal list. Just my opinion
Black album ? Meh
Guys... Black Album is not 'meh'. Yeah, it's not as good as their 80s material, but it's still a fuckin KICKASS LP. Sad But True, Unforgiven, Wherever I May Roam, Through The Never, My Friend Of Misery, etc... Awesome stuff.