Weird that Kimi and George are rankend higher that Max and Liam. Antonelli has yet to prove he is a better f1 driver than Lawson, while there is no question who the better driver is between Max and George.
Can’t put Mercedes that high until we have actually seen Antonelli in a number of f1 races , just presuming he will be amazing out the box after a subpar f2 campaign is ambitious
He beat Bearman in F2 still and had incredible performances in the wet. I agree it's a little generous but it's super close between them, RBR and Williams for me
Subpar? He jumped from FRECA to F2 and demolished his (very highly rated) teammate in his first season and finished 6th? What the fuck are you talking about lol.
Ranking Mercedes with Russell (with only 3 wins) and a complete rookie, Antonelli, above RBR with a 4 x WDC, Verstappen, and Lawson, who has actually raced in F1 is silly and makes absolutely no sense.
Well, Antonelli might be "a complete rookie", but so was Lewis Hamilton in 2007, and we all know how that went! I think Kimi will take some time to adapt, but once he does, he will be insanely good! I rate his long term potential the highest out of any of the new rookies by some margin!
@@TheHarrie93 it’s not a one man team buddy, I bet 10000000000000$ he won’t outscore the Mercedes combined next season. He couldn’t even do it this season with Mercedes shitty car
@colinmichael8498 Lawson has shown he can keep up with Tsunoda. Antonelli has shown he can crash an F1 car... Probably has a higher ceiling but man is he a risk
I dont understand how is Red Bull under Merc? I mean you are rating drivers, Max is the number 1 highest rated driver. Russel is below Max, so would this mean people think that Antonelli is that much better than Lawson? Eventhou Lawson has proved himself a little bit?
@@purwantiallan5089 Nah VER/LAW is better than SAI/ALB. Max is significantly better than them both, and I think that Albon is really overrated. Lawson won't do worse than Albon compared to Max
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How has Mercedes sneaked their way up to 3rd? I wouldn't even put their driver line-up above Williams'. Russel is at best slightly better than Sainz but there's no way you could consider Antonelli even close to Albon right now.
@@scottyskydog I think you could make a convincing argument for either being better than the other. I feel like Sainz is more consistent over a season but Russel would be able to get a few more amazing results in some races if they were driving the same car.
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Ferrari - two of the top 4 drivers McLaren - two of the top 6 drivers Red Bull - best driver on the grid Williams - extremely good midfield lineup Mercedes - best experienced + rookie pairing Sauber - two extremely quick drivers AMR - Alonso carrying rather heavily Haas - two steady drivers with experience Alpine - really uninspiring rookie choice RB - not a clue why Hadjar got a seat in F1
Hadjar deserves a seat far more than doohan ever has, taking the fight to bortoleto is something that cant go unnoticed. Yes, he will probably be one of the less "looked at" rookies next year, but I think he will definitely outshine doohan by a considerable amount
@@JuicyJuno I don't believe either deserved seats but Doohan has also been doing a LOT of simulator work which has directly improved the team. He is a lot more warranted than a guy who refused to take accountability for his multiple failed years in F2.
@@soundscape26 Yeah and thats why we cant really rank them yet. Need to see at least few races. Still Max is way better than George and that puts RB above Merc.
Ben Anderson with dire takes as usual. How is Russell/Antonelli even vaguely better than Leclerc/Hamilton? Even if Leclerc and Russell were considered equals, surely a 7 time world champion who still has some of the best race pace on the grid can beat an unproven rookie.
I don’t agree with that, his reputation was mostly saved by Bearman’s F1 performances which showed that (having beaten Bearman in Prema) Prema was a terrible team in 2024 rather than Antonelli being a poor driver. His junior record is still leagues ahead of Doohan’s (that man should not be in F1) or arguably Bearman’s and Hadjar’s but is worse than Bortoleto, Piastri, Russell, Leclerc etc so it’ll be interesting to see how he does.
@doobvids181 I respectfully disagree Prema made a mess of getting on top of the new 2024 F2 chassis. Antonelli finished 6 places ahead of Bearman in the F2 championship despite the issues and that includes missing the Abu Dhabi races through illness. Antonelli performance in the wet at Silverstone was on a different planet.
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Russell with 3 wins (0 titles) + 1 rookie is rated higher than Verstappen (63 wins + 4 World Titles) + 1 rookie? You folks probably used Apple Vision Pro logic ...
@@vyymee no.1) latte boy is better than sir lulu the melanin merchant nowadays. no.2) Lulu has been in a sharp decline ever since ad21 and he is only going to get worse with time. no.3) though antonelli is a rookie who crashed in fp at monza, the potential of that kid is insane. no.4) 2025 or atleast 2026 ferrari would be like 2024 redbull where Max was the driver carrying redbull completely and in this case Charles is going to carry Ferrari due to Lewis’s terminal decline. no.5)Lewis might not be good nowadays but he is a 7 time world champion who also has a political influence as well and there is no way he accepts being a de facto 2nd driver which realistically he will. This will be like mclaren 2024 all over again but this time it would be ferrari handling this mess which everyone knows they are not good at no.6) Remember that Leclerc is ferrari’s child. There is no way that ferrari will give lewis priority over charles. Ever since nico left lewis has relied on team orders and that isnt going to work now Hope i made myself clear and any teamlh fan can cry elsewhere
Putting Ferrari above McLaren makes no sense. If you’re gonna criticize Piastris issues you can’t turn around and say Hamiltons don’t matter because of who he is. He had a significantly worse season.
100% agree. Ferrari have a better driver pairing on paper, however if you look at last season it’s clear to me that going into 2025 that Mclaren are the number 1 pairing.
@@Flurrby I don’t think it’s that insane, it was for sure between Ferrari and Mercedes. I think Russel and Sainz are pretty close with a slight edge in Sainz favor but overall I think Hamilton is better than Leclerc at the moment. That being said, I think Leclerc will edge out Hamilton this year.
@@soundscape26 Hamiltons 2023 was very underrated, 3rd and was in touching distance of Checo for 2nd in a much inferior car, Russell before this season was also highly rated, so yeah, nothing insane about it
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@@milanwyd441 Antonelli has proven nothing, his only championship attempt above F4 he came 6th, while Lawson has competed for championships in DTM and Super Formula and came 3rd in F2 in a bad car. Lawson going to kick Antonelli's ass this season.
@Matt04108 for you he is proven nothing because u have 0 clue about talent, for everyone who understands talent, we know this guynis generational. there were people like you saying stuff like this about max in 2014. time always prpves you lot wrong
how is a rookie better than a driver with 11 races under his belt, both have had an impressive junior formula careers yet theyve ranked Merc higher than red bull, unless they think russel is better than Verstappen.
Liam's junior career is nothing compared to the one of Kimi, and I say that with all due respect. You'll next year why Kimi is so highly acclaimed. And please save this comment so you can mock me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I'm right. That's how confident I am in Kimi.
Verstappen is easily better than russell and it is very difficult to compare antonelli and lawson, even if we give a slight edge to antonelli, max edges out russell by enough to be a better lineup than merc.
Mercedes ahead of Red Bull is crazy talk. Russell is fantastic, but we have seen nothing from Kimi yet. Lawson has been a fairly strong driver and shown that he certainly has the racecraft to contest Formula A. I'm rooting for Kimi, but to put so much stock in him over a proven quantity is silly.
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Interesting that the narrative around Piastri at the end of 2023 was that he can match Norris over one lap, he just needs to work on tyre management. Now it's the opposite?
Unpopular opinion I’m sure - Norris is simply the faster driver (over one lap and over a race distance) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest Piastri will be able to match him. I honestly think he was closer to Lando at the end of 2023 than he was at the end of 2024.
I still find it wild that the FIA initially was blocking Cadillac because of fear of the team not being competitive but they allow Daddy Stroll to keep his pay driver even tho it's obviously a decision that is making them less competitive arguably not competitive at all.
@@thepineappleburster4439 really? where in my comment do I "describe as if he is 1 second a lap slower" you're just making my point for me because here you are arguing
The irony in ranking drivers irrespective of their car yet assumptions of their skill are dependent on the relative success dictated by their previous cars.
@psychobergmuis6281 nah. the max-ris gal is smaller than the ant-law gap. 'experience' is a terrible arguement. vettel has more experience than verstapoen, lets fire max and put seb in!
@@psychobergmuis6281 no amount of experience will put lawson anywhere close to antonelli. lawson in 5 years time will be worse than antonelli last year.
Given Alonso’s performance in 2023 I don’t think stroll is covering up Alonso’s decline. Obviously he’s not in his prime anymore but he is still more than capable of winning races given a decent car
I feel that Charles & Lewis is over-hyped, yes, Lewis is a great driver, his last few years where Mercedes had issues in the ground effect, is something to take into account as just because they have big names doesn't mean they'll have the best lineup, look at the years Michael Schumacher had at Mercedes before he left, he didn't exactly set the world alight in those years, so there's no guarantees that just by having Lewis here that project 677 is going to be a world championship winning car, especially since it's not an evolution of this years car.
Lewis Hamilton used to be a great driver. After the last few years, he will have to show that he still has it. Considering it will still be a ground effect car, I am doubtful.
i see no reason how ferrari have the better driver lineup because we still dont know if hamiltons struggles were specifically mercedes problems or just ground effect problems
Russell beat Hamilton twice in equal machineries 1st in 2022, when he was new to Mercedes vs Hamilton who is the senior lead driver 2nd in 2024, on a car that Mercedes intently developed to tick Hamilton's car wishlist. Hamilton did beat George in 2023, but people forgot that George was beating Lewis in the qualis early in 2023, until Mercedes pivot away from zero-pod concept and focuses on satisfying Lewis preferences, at the detriment to George. Point is Lewis beating George in 2023 doesn't really mean anything in resolving his poor adjusment issues and lack of performance in the current ground effect regulation despite Mercedes attempt to create a car base on his preferences. Can Ferrari find a solution for Lewis? Probably, but consider that Mercedes were working with Lewis for years and failed to come up with anything. Can Lewis finally find his peak performance in a new team? I think this is more likely. Hamilton had been improving on his own and I think he is more comfortable with the current regulation cars now. If Ferrari made a dominant fast car, we may see Lewis winning races again. Problem is that Ferrari are still flopping every now and then. Also Leclerc isn't a push over and a way formidable talent than George (with year of experience working with Ferrari as their lead driver). And now we have 4 teams competing for the top position (with Red Bull cutting off their weakest link Perez)
@@xc3274Im the biggest Alonso Stan but id put AM 10th simply because the topic is pairing, not single drivers. That said this list is an absolute yoke. Russel Antonelli being anywhere near top 3 is just delusional.
Put any driver in a car built around Alonso and they struggle. This includes WDCs like Kimi and Button. No one likes to drive an understeery shit box except Alonso. You put Max or Leclerc in that car and they’re getting beaten by drivers like Perez.
antonelli and bearman got dominated by hadjar and bortoleto in f2. Dont think they should be slandered like this when it is supposed to be a list not taking the car into account. Haas should be lower. Also, putting russel/antonelli over lawson/verstappen would either mean antonelli is considered a astronomically better driver than lawson or russel being greater than verstappen. This makes no sense.
Is Ben Anderson capable of using all of his 3 braincells? Or he is just straight up lying about watching the sport. Some of his takes, in fact almost every single of his are just laughable, pathetic and seem to be out of sheer desperation, led by personal feelings towards drivers and teams.
The Russell that destroyed a 7 time WDC twice doesn’t match a 4 time WDC 😂 The difference between Max and Russell, is that Russell likes having a competitive teammate and doesn’t have his dad lobbying to keep useless drivers like Perez in the team.
I am not a fan of Hamilton, but Russel did not destroy him. Hamilton scored more points over these 3 season. He drove the best car 8 years in a row, while Russel came from Williams, so driving the 3rd-4th car on the grid is less motovating to him for sure. If the 2024 Mercedes was worthy of a title fight, Hamilton would have beat Russel comfortably.
@@gaborvarga6567lol sir lulu would be destroyed by osama bin russel if not for his dnf in silverstone and his dq at spa. Lulu is finished. I say that as an A-grade osama hater
Mercedes above Red Bull is silly given there is a 4x WDC and current F1 driver vs a 3 time race winner and rookie. My list is is based off ranking each driver then calculating an average of their ranks to rank the teams. 1. Ferrari 2. McLaren 3. Williams 4. Red Bull 5. Mercedes 6. Aston Martin 7. Kick Sauber 8. Haas 9. Alpine 10. Racing Bulls
Intrigued by Haas ranking so much higher than Alpine. Gasly proved himself above Ocon last year, and while I'm also not on the Doohan hype train, is Bearman really that much better for them to get double Alpine's points as a team?
Ben putting Leclerc and Hamilton 3rd is outrageous 🙈 100% between Ferrari and Mclaren, Ferrari makes the most sense in right now, McLaren is great but with the potential to either be elite or implode
How does Ferrari not have the same potential for implosion? All we need is one poor performance from Hamilton with him implying there was something wrong with his car specifically and Ferrari's gonna have a complete meltdown.
@@lukew6725No, I think he'll act differently at Ferrari than he did at Mercedes. The McLaren pair is young and thirsty for wins as to eventually define a pecking order in the team going forward. I don't expect any implosions though, fans are just a tad dramatic.
Why on earth is Sauber in P8?? Unlike all of those other over-hyped rookie nobodies, Sauber has got the actual CHAMPION 🤦🤦 Is Hulk supposed to be useless, or what?
@ tf u mean do u know how many people looked good in the lower category’s and shit the bed in f1 he legit crashed in his first and only practice session he is a complete unknown and to just assume he’s generational before he even has his first gp is Ludacris
@@weontop80 actually the answer is none. there was never a single driver who looked like this in his pre f1 career and ended up being bad. none. zero. fact is you have are simply clueless, he is generational, better than the likes of sainz, norris, piastri at this very moment in time already. aint no unknown.
@ ahahahahahahaha yea ur the biggest rider I have ever seen choke on it some more like the kid won’t be top 8 in the standing by the end of the year and your a casual cuz apparently u never heard of Robert Kubica or Heinz-Harald Frentzen or Antonio Pizzonia like u think kimi is the first young prodigy to be brought up? Like bro didn’t do a dam thing in f2 for u to be acting like he’s the next coming of Jesus
I personally would switch Alpine v VACB and Merc v Redbull If Sauber is 7 because of Colapinto, then Hadjar finishing second should be over Doohan. Also Lawson is more proven than Antonelli, and Max > Russel.
@puupää I toyed with the idea of Apline then VCAR but personally I think Gasly makes up the difference. Sauber is 7th because of Hulk and the very promising youngster who McLaren wanted to keep. Hadjar and Doolan are not near his level. Again Mercedes and Red Bull was tough. I see Antonelli challenging like Piastri did in his first season and give Russell a run for his money, but I don't see Lawson on the same speed as Verstappen or Russell. All of this is my opinion anyway.
Why Mercedes over Red Bull? Antonelli is still a question mark without having raced in F1. And is Russell better than Verstappen? Seems a bit odd to me. I can agree with positions 1 and 2
so The Race once again shows it is incapable of picking winners. Their fanboy obsession with Hamilton is hilarious. Ferrari in 3rd this year, with Maclaren and Red Bull battling it out for 1st spot.
Mark my words… Ferrari is will lose the wcc because of sir lulu the melanin merchant. Charles and Sainz were basically the perfect team and if for some reason Ferrari didnt want Sainz for 2025 bearman or Bortoletto were both better options then mr stillwecry
In F1 age is just number It really depends on motivation Lewis went from P10 to P2 in the fastest car(mercedes was clearly the best in las vegas) So Ferrari has the strongest line up
Weird that Kimi and George are rankend higher that Max and Liam. Antonelli has yet to prove he is a better f1 driver than Lawson, while there is no question who the better driver is between Max and George.
It's because everyone knows what will happen to Lawson. He will be the next Perez, Herbert, Baricello. Red bull can only run a car and a half
Toto would need all of 2 seconds to swap George and Andrea for Max and Liam
@@Root_boy not george
One of the voters had Russel and Antonelli above Leclerc and Hamilton. Absolute madness from a so called expert
Yeah Mercedes now has the weakest line up that they ever had after returning to F1 in 2010.
Can’t put Mercedes that high until we have actually seen Antonelli in a number of f1 races , just presuming he will be amazing out the box after a subpar f2 campaign is ambitious
Given how bad Prema were generally in F2 last year his F2 season was far better than it looked.
@TheSt1092 he still hasnt shown anything super imprssive for them to rank mercas a better lineup than verstappen
He beat Bearman in F2 still and had incredible performances in the wet. I agree it's a little generous but it's super close between them, RBR and Williams for me
Subpar? He jumped from FRECA to F2 and demolished his (very highly rated) teammate in his first season and finished 6th? What the fuck are you talking about lol.
Antonelli is being hyped up so bad, I almost cant wait to see him fail
Ranking Mercedes with Russell (with only 3 wins) and a complete rookie, Antonelli, above RBR with a 4 x WDC, Verstappen, and Lawson, who has actually raced in F1 is silly and makes absolutely no sense.
what can gr do with a shit car
Hope they improve the ranks really soon.
@@purwantiallan5089 me too
Well, Antonelli might be "a complete rookie", but so was Lewis Hamilton in 2007, and we all know how that went! I think Kimi will take some time to adapt, but once he does, he will be insanely good! I rate his long term potential the highest out of any of the new rookies by some margin!
We all know the Race hate Max and have a hard-on for Lewis so, makes sense.
Mercedes above Red Bull? Yeah I cant agree with that, at all
True, I would count the rookies as roughly even so it's left to say that they think that Russel is better than Verstappen
I can because Lawson is driving 😂😂😂
Max by himself ranks above Mercedes. Russel isn't consistent enough and makes too many mistakes. Antonelli has to prove everything
@@TheHarrie93 it’s not a one man team buddy, I bet 10000000000000$ he won’t outscore the Mercedes combined next season. He couldn’t even do it this season with Mercedes shitty car
@colinmichael8498 Lawson has shown he can keep up with Tsunoda. Antonelli has shown he can crash an F1 car... Probably has a higher ceiling but man is he a risk
I dont understand how is Red Bull under Merc? I mean you are rating drivers, Max is the number 1 highest rated driver. Russel is below Max, so would this mean people think that Antonelli is that much better than Lawson? Eventhou Lawson has proved himself a little bit?
Yeah I really don't get the Lawson hate at all he's been within 2 tenths of yukis pace with a fraction of his experience
Yeah as a russell fan I thought that was pretty unfair. Antonelli is not allat
@@alternativeformulahe is trust me
@@johncitizen306 2 tenth of Yuki when Yuki is not even a top midfield driver does mean much Kimi potentially is just higher then Liam it's not hate
@@alternativeformulaAntonelli may seem to consistently staying at the back of the pack in 2025.
This has to be the most delusional list I have seen in a while
What would you change?
@@soundscape26the weakest of all driver lineups in 2025 for sure are Verstappen/Lawson.
Hamilton first😂😂😂 i laugh so hard
@@swl0323why
@@soundscape26 Ferrari below Merc, Williams and Red Bull thanks to garbage 44 downgrade, Red Bull above Merc, would be OK then...
Putting George and Kimi above Max and Lawson is criminally wrong.
And also not putting Albon/Sainz above both Russell/Antonelli & Verstappen/Lawson.
@@DJChappie001 more wrong or less wrong than putting Liam in over Yuki??
Yeah, but less wrong than Ferrari. They are below Merc, Williams and Red Bull thanks to garbage 44 downgrade...
@@purwantiallan5089 Nah VER/LAW is better than SAI/ALB. Max is significantly better than them both, and I think that Albon is really overrated. Lawson won't do worse than Albon compared to Max
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🤣🤣🤣 Max and Lawson lower than George and Kimi?
Come on now...
Well sadly true. Its even more wrong to see Tsunoda/Hadjar positioned below Verstappen/Lawson and Antonelli/Russell.
@@purwantiallan5089-5/10 rage bait
Worst thing has to be rating ferrari ahead of merc, redbull, McLaren and williams
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How has Mercedes sneaked their way up to 3rd? I wouldn't even put their driver line-up above Williams'. Russel is at best slightly better than Sainz but there's no way you could consider Antonelli even close to Albon right now.
antonelli's a rookie. period. george is good, but so are others, and max is better.
George isn’t as good as Carlos!!
@@scottyskydog I think you could make a convincing argument for either being better than the other. I feel like Sainz is more consistent over a season but Russel would be able to get a few more amazing results in some races if they were driving the same car.
Mercedes being above Redbull is criminal neither George is better than Max and Kimi hasn't proven to be better than Lawson.
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Except George is better than Max
Ferrari - two of the top 4 drivers
McLaren - two of the top 6 drivers
Red Bull - best driver on the grid
Williams - extremely good midfield lineup
Mercedes - best experienced + rookie pairing
Sauber - two extremely quick drivers
AMR - Alonso carrying rather heavily
Haas - two steady drivers with experience
Alpine - really uninspiring rookie choice
RB - not a clue why Hadjar got a seat in F1
Hadjar deserves a seat far more than doohan ever has, taking the fight to bortoleto is something that cant go unnoticed. Yes, he will probably be one of the less "looked at" rookies next year, but I think he will definitely outshine doohan by a considerable amount
@@JuicyJuno Doohan was miles ahead of Hadjar last season in F2
@@JuicyJuno I don't believe either deserved seats but Doohan has also been doing a LOT of simulator work which has directly improved the team. He is a lot more warranted than a guy who refused to take accountability for his multiple failed years in F2.
Have you ever watched Hadjar race?
@@glenrobinson10 who deserves the 2nd seat at Alpine then??
For me George Russell/Kimi Antonelli is good enough pairing but cannot be higher than Alex Albon/Carlos Sainz as well as Max Verstappen/Liam Lawson
Mercedes in front on Redbull😂. What a joke
They were just separated by 3 points, in practice that amounts to a tie. But yeah, I would swap them as well.
A yoke. A yoke
@@soundscape26 Its not even close. Max wipes the floor with George and Lawson has 11 race of experience while Kimi is totally unknown.
@@Kornn66 That's the thing with all the 5 rookies, we don't have much of an idea on how they'll perform, just vibes.
@@soundscape26 Yeah and thats why we cant really rank them yet. Need to see at least few races. Still Max is way better than George and that puts RB above Merc.
Ben Anderson with dire takes as usual. How is Russell/Antonelli even vaguely better than Leclerc/Hamilton?
Even if Leclerc and Russell were considered equals, surely a 7 time world champion who still has some of the best race pace on the grid can beat an unproven rookie.
Antonelli showed nothing in F2
@@luismasanchez9367 Prema were crap as whole last year.
I don’t agree with that, his reputation was mostly saved by Bearman’s F1 performances which showed that (having beaten Bearman in Prema) Prema was a terrible team in 2024 rather than Antonelli being a poor driver.
His junior record is still leagues ahead of Doohan’s (that man should not be in F1) or arguably Bearman’s and Hadjar’s but is worse than Bortoleto, Piastri, Russell, Leclerc etc so it’ll be interesting to see how he does.
@doobvids181 I respectfully disagree Prema made a mess of getting on top of the new 2024 F2 chassis. Antonelli finished 6 places ahead of Bearman in the F2 championship despite the issues and that includes missing the Abu Dhabi races through illness. Antonelli performance in the wet at Silverstone was on a different planet.
"Best race pace" lmfao good one
Are you actually for real or is this some kind of elaborate rage bait?
I think they are trolling.
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Ranking RBR below Merc because Lawson is an "unknown" while treating Antonelli like he is better. 😂
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Never let this channel cook ever again
What a dumb list, the top 4 teams aren't really debatable but The Race managed to screw it up.
Don't they always
Russell with 3 wins (0 titles) + 1 rookie is rated higher than Verstappen (63 wins + 4 World Titles) + 1 rookie?
You folks probably used Apple Vision Pro logic ...
If anything Sainz=George and Albon>>> Antonelli. Merc should arguably be 5th, let alone 3rd
Sainz is probably better than latte boy especially in terms of mentality
I would rate George ahead of Sainz but Albon would certainly tip the scales in Williams favor.
@ Sainz is better than Osama. He has a better work ethic, mentality and is better on track. He isnt called osama bin russel for no reason
George is better than Carlos imho
Albon is supremely overrated, and Sainz is still supremely underrated.
Merc above RedBull? Antonelli is yet to race for F1.
yeah and he crashed his second lap in F1
Talking about Oscar’s qualifying while ignoring Hamilton getting destroyed by George. Makes sense
They think Hamilton can do no wrong
Lewis was on experimental set ups
Exactly, also Piastri is +0.129s compared to Norris, like what do they expect, that they are +0.000s to each other?
@@zoltanf994 Yeah, the difference is pants, more relevant is the 20-4 overall in qualli
@@richardashton5015 bro cries about lewis in all his comments what a crystappen fan...
1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. Red Bull
4. Williams
5. Mercedes
6. Aston Martin
7. Sauber
8. Haas
9. Alpine
10. RB
Massive improvement, bravo. Quite sane and defensible
1. Mclaren
2. Redbull
3. Williams
4. Mercedes
5. Ferrari
6. Aston Martin
7. Sauber
8. Haas
9. Alpine
10. Toro Rosso
Ferrari will be a joke
@@GhostOfParisMiami ok explain to me how Russell and a Rookie are better than a Leclerc and Hamilton 😂 you list is shit
@@vyymee no.1) latte boy is better than sir lulu the melanin merchant nowadays.
no.2) Lulu has been in a sharp decline ever since ad21 and he is only going to get worse with time.
no.3) though antonelli is a rookie who crashed in fp at monza, the potential of that kid is insane.
no.4) 2025 or atleast 2026 ferrari would be like 2024 redbull where Max was the driver carrying redbull completely and in this case Charles is going to carry Ferrari due to Lewis’s terminal decline.
no.5)Lewis might not be good nowadays but he is a 7 time world champion who also has a political influence as well and there is no way he accepts being a de facto 2nd driver which realistically he will. This will be like mclaren 2024 all over again but this time it would be ferrari handling this mess which everyone knows they are not good at
no.6) Remember that Leclerc is ferrari’s child. There is no way that ferrari will give lewis priority over charles. Ever since nico left lewis has relied on team orders and that isnt going to work now
Hope i made myself clear and any teamlh fan can cry elsewhere
Russell and a rookie who crashed in Monza ahead of Max and not a rookie. Crazy.
Sure he crashed in Monza but are we to think he sucks just because of that?
Putting Ferrari above McLaren makes no sense. If you’re gonna criticize Piastris issues you can’t turn around and say Hamiltons don’t matter because of who he is. He had a significantly worse season.
100% agree. Ferrari have a better driver pairing on paper, however if you look at last season it’s clear to me that going into 2025 that Mclaren are the number 1 pairing.
Merc at 3rd is delusional
DNS in Brazil is compliment to Stroll
Insane that Merc was your #1 last year
@@Flurrby I don’t think it’s that insane, it was for sure between Ferrari and Mercedes. I think Russel and Sainz are pretty close with a slight edge in Sainz favor but overall I think Hamilton is better than Leclerc at the moment. That being said, I think Leclerc will edge out Hamilton this year.
Yeah, crazy how the team with a 7 time champion last year got #1, really weird...
No? Lewis on the back of a good 2023 and George one of the best drivers currently. I think it was justified.
@@soundscape26 Hamiltons 2023 was very underrated, 3rd and was in touching distance of Checo for 2nd in a much inferior car, Russell before this season was also highly rated, so yeah, nothing insane about it
@@Chuck__Finley I like Sainz but he is not better than George u all need to stop underrating GR
5:44 you guys switched Leclerc’s and Sainz’s podium stats. Leclerc 13 - Sainz 9
And they are 14-8 in races, don’t know what they were writing
@@massimoonorati3150sainz didn’t race in Jeddah, so you can’t really compare that race
Mercedes P3 has to be a joke 😂
Ferrari p1 is even funnier though. They deserve 5th place and i say this as a tifosi and italian
Its rage bait for engagement. The more angry people are the more engagement, the more the views the more they earn. Thats how you extract free money from "intelligent" internet people.
How are some of these people considered experts with some of these picks that they’ve made
Lol some of the guys on your panel really has some biases
We all do 🤷♀
Its rage bait for engagement. The more angry people are the more engagement, the more the views the more they earn. Thats how you extract free money from "intelligent" internet people.
What’s with the use of operator ? Can we not use driver any more?
This puzzles me as well. Maybe the Race wants F1 to be more tacticool and use special forces language.
Ben Anderson is insane for thinking Mclaren AND Mercedes is higher than Ferrari 😆😆😆😆
Its rage bait for engagement. The more angry people are the more engagement, the more the views the more they earn. Thats how you extract free money from "intelligent" internet people.
I can make an argument for McLaren, but Mercedes higher….no way.
@@GoldenEDM_2018 Thank you for confirming my intelligence! 🤓🥸
idk who Ben Anderson is but I've never seen anyone more wrong about anything in my entire life.
George and Antonelli above Max and Lawson ? CRAZY
Its rage bait for engagement. The more angry people are the more engagement, the more the views the more they earn. Thats how you extract free money from "intelligent" internet people.
Absolutely wild putting Russell-Antonelli over Verstappen-Lawson
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its not wild at all. merc is easily the 2nd best line up behind ferrari
@@milanwyd441 Antonelli has proven nothing, his only championship attempt above F4 he came 6th, while Lawson has competed for championships in DTM and Super Formula and came 3rd in F2 in a bad car. Lawson going to kick Antonelli's ass this season.
@Matt04108 for you he is proven nothing because u have 0 clue about talent, for everyone who understands talent, we know this guynis generational. there were people like you saying stuff like this about max in 2014. time always prpves you lot wrong
6:22 lol that caption
what red bull want most is two verstappens fr
The ranking should be:
1. Ferrari
2. Mclaren
3. Redbull
4. Williams
5. Mercedes
6. Haas
7. Aston Martin
8. Sauber
9. Alpine
10. Visa
McLaren are not 2nd 😂 ones peaky but inconsistent and ones a bottle job
how is a rookie better than a driver with 11 races under his belt, both have had an impressive junior formula careers yet theyve ranked Merc higher than red bull, unless they think russel is better than Verstappen.
Liam's junior career is nothing compared to the one of Kimi, and I say that with all due respect. You'll next year why Kimi is so highly acclaimed. And please save this comment so you can mock me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I'm right. That's how confident I am in Kimi.
I'm not even a Redbull fan but putting George/Antonelli above Max/Lawson is pure madness
Verstappen is easily better than russell and it is very difficult to compare antonelli and lawson, even if we give a slight edge to antonelli, max edges out russell by enough to be a better lineup than merc.
antonelli has a MASSIVE edge over lawson, not a slight edge
Mercedes ahead of Red Bull is crazy talk. Russell is fantastic, but we have seen nothing from Kimi yet. Lawson has been a fairly strong driver and shown that he certainly has the racecraft to contest Formula A.
I'm rooting for Kimi, but to put so much stock in him over a proven quantity is silly.
Its rage bait for engagement. The more angry people are the more engagement, the more the views the more they earn. Thats how you extract free money from "intelligent" internet people.
merc is easily the 2nd best line up behind ferrari
The Antonelli glaze is real damn!
the opposite. merc should easily be second. both merc drivers clear of both mclaren drivers.
THE RACE lists always on point. Of being completely delusional 😂
Your graphic at 8:48 shows that Lando overtook Max in the WDC in Mexico.... it was still 362 to 315 at that point.
That graph represents the points scored between Imola and Abudhabi, the time period where Mclaren had the better car.
ben anderson putting merc above ferrari is a crime
Interesting that the narrative around Piastri at the end of 2023 was that he can match Norris over one lap, he just needs to work on tyre management. Now it's the opposite?
Unpopular opinion I’m sure - Norris is simply the faster driver (over one lap and over a race distance) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest Piastri will be able to match him. I honestly think he was closer to Lando at the end of 2023 than he was at the end of 2024.
How dare RUclips hide this from me for 44 seconds
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If we are talking purely about drivers ain’t no way this list is right.
These rankings are tragic. Pretty consistent with most of the rankings that The Race ever puts out 😂
What's your list?
I'm a LH/CL fan but i dont agree with these rankings. I would have said Mclaren, Redbull, Ferrari, Merc, and you can decide from then on. lol
Damn josh suttill nailed every single one on the "correct" place, that is absolutely amazing!!
I still find it wild that the FIA initially was blocking Cadillac because of fear of the team not being competitive but they allow Daddy Stroll to keep his pay driver even tho it's obviously a decision that is making them less competitive arguably not competitive at all.
Stroll isnt a bad driver whatsoever. You describe as if he is 1sec a lap slower whilst in reality its not even 3 tenths
They blocking Cadillac? 🤯🤯🤯😱😱😱
The FIA didn't block them. The FOM did.
Make 0 sense because the team entry rules and the driver entry rules are completely different so it’s like comparing apples to oranges
@@thepineappleburster4439 really? where in my comment do I "describe as if he is 1 second a lap slower" you're just making my point for me because here you are arguing
Your graphic in the William section comparing Sainz and Leclerc ‘s stats for 2024 is wrong. The podiums are swapped. Charles had 13 podiums
"Panel of experts"? Merc above RedBull? This makes no sense
merc is easily the 2nd best line up behind ferrari
NOTE TO EDITORS:
You swapped the number of podiums between Leclerc & Sainz.
Leclerc has 13, and Sainz has 9 - not the other way around.
😂😂 the LH fanpage
Very true
crystappen fangirl crying 😆over a fact
The irony in ranking drivers irrespective of their car yet assumptions of their skill are dependent on the relative success dictated by their previous cars.
Really good concept for a video, really bad "expert" opinions
Swap Mercedes and Red Bull and it's fine
Having any team with Ocon on it that high feels illegal
Its insane to put merc ahead of rb
its not wild at all. merc is easily the 2nd best line up behind ferrari
@milanwyd441 max is lightyears ahead of russel and liam has more experience than kimi. Its simply delusional to think merc is ahead of rb
@psychobergmuis6281 nah. the max-ris gal is smaller than the ant-law gap. 'experience' is a terrible arguement. vettel has more experience than verstapoen, lets fire max and put seb in!
@milanwyd441 neither max nor vettel is a rooky for rookies time in car absolutely mathers
@@psychobergmuis6281 no amount of experience will put lawson anywhere close to antonelli. lawson in 5 years time will be worse than antonelli last year.
Given Alonso’s performance in 2023 I don’t think stroll is covering up Alonso’s decline. Obviously he’s not in his prime anymore but he is still more than capable of winning races given a decent car
I feel that Charles & Lewis is over-hyped, yes, Lewis is a great driver, his last few years where Mercedes had issues in the ground effect, is something to take into account as just because they have big names doesn't mean they'll have the best lineup, look at the years Michael Schumacher had at Mercedes before he left, he didn't exactly set the world alight in those years, so there's no guarantees that just by having Lewis here that project 677 is going to be a world championship winning car, especially since it's not an evolution of this years car.
This is about driver lineup, it’s all opinions really. On paper Charles and Lewis are the best lineup on the grid, you can’t argue with that
Lewis Hamilton used to be a great driver. After the last few years, he will have to show that he still has it. Considering it will still be a ground effect car, I am doubtful.
"Last few years"? He destroyed Russell in 2023 and would have won the title excluding the dominant Red Bull car...gosh people have short memories
@@rebsredone450 He did a pretty good 2023 ironically without the wins he had in 2024
@@Gweelo “would have won the title excluding the dominant red bull car” taking away the car’s dominance doesn’t mean max would not have wiped LH
Max+Liam below George+Kimi? This only makes sense if it was done to stir up engagement in the comments.
its not wild at all. merc is easily the 2nd best line up behind ferrari
Videos like these are why I'm not subscribed to y'all... This ranking makes little to no sense.
Well, you watch the videos the same doesn't matter much if you are subscribed or not 😄
Citing all the quotees like it's not just the guys who edit these videos
i see no reason how ferrari have the better driver lineup because we still dont know if hamiltons struggles were specifically mercedes problems or just ground effect problems
Have you just forgotten entirley about 2023, where he bullied Russel.
Well, we don't know how the rookies will perform either
Russell beat Hamilton twice in equal machineries
1st in 2022, when he was new to Mercedes vs Hamilton who is the senior lead driver
2nd in 2024, on a car that Mercedes intently developed to tick Hamilton's car wishlist.
Hamilton did beat George in 2023, but people forgot that George was beating Lewis in the qualis early in 2023, until Mercedes pivot away from zero-pod concept and focuses on satisfying Lewis preferences, at the detriment to George.
Point is Lewis beating George in 2023 doesn't really mean anything in resolving his poor adjusment issues and lack of performance in the current ground effect regulation despite Mercedes attempt to create a car base on his preferences.
Can Ferrari find a solution for Lewis? Probably, but consider that Mercedes were working with Lewis for years and failed to come up with anything.
Can Lewis finally find his peak performance in a new team? I think this is more likely.
Hamilton had been improving on his own and I think he is more comfortable with the current regulation cars now. If Ferrari made a dominant fast car, we may see Lewis winning races again.
Problem is that Ferrari are still flopping every now and then.
Also Leclerc isn't a push over and a way formidable talent than George (with year of experience working with Ferrari as their lead driver).
And now we have 4 teams competing for the top position (with Red Bull cutting off their weakest link Perez)
@ even if ferrari are better with the problems he is not guaranteed even a small bit of success in his first year
Ferrari easily has the best line up, and im not even a Lewis fan. Everyone else is more or less meh.
How are this guys called specialists and make shit list like this one. Holy shit
Imagine not putting Aston Martin 10th who have elected for one driver this year!
Imagine putting in 10th position a 2WDC legendary (and still at top level) driver... Alonso alone is better than 3-4 couples tbh.
@@xc3274Im the biggest Alonso Stan but id put AM 10th simply because the topic is pairing, not single drivers. That said this list is an absolute yoke. Russel Antonelli being anywhere near top 3 is just delusional.
@@adriansoul7223 Half Verstappen is better than that couple alone 💀
I mean, Stroll isn't that great of a driver but surely Hadjar still isn't better than him.
Put any driver in a car built around Alonso and they struggle.
This includes WDCs like Kimi and Button.
No one likes to drive an understeery shit box except Alonso.
You put Max or Leclerc in that car and they’re getting beaten by drivers like Perez.
Wild to put Merc above Red Bull when Antonelli is still of relatively unknown quality when push comes to shove.
The number of podiums for the Ferrari boys is wrong, Charles had 13 while Carlos had 9 5:40
antonelli and bearman got dominated by hadjar and bortoleto in f2. Dont think they should be slandered like this when it is supposed to be a list not taking the car into account. Haas should be lower. Also, putting russel/antonelli over lawson/verstappen would either mean antonelli is considered a astronomically better driver than lawson or russel being greater than verstappen. This makes no sense.
Is Ben Anderson capable of using all of his 3 braincells? Or he is just straight up lying about watching the sport. Some of his takes, in fact almost every single of his are just laughable, pathetic and seem to be out of sheer desperation, led by personal feelings towards drivers and teams.
2 braincells fighting for 3rd LMAO.
The Ferrari stats Leclerc vs Sainz are wrong, Leclerc has 13 podiums in 2024 whereas Sainz has 9 rather than the vice versa.
2 Russell's don't match half Verstappen. Not to mention Lawson already has some experience, Kimi doesn't.
The Russell that destroyed a 7 time WDC twice doesn’t match a 4 time WDC 😂
The difference between Max and Russell, is that Russell likes having a competitive teammate and doesn’t have his dad lobbying to keep useless drivers like Perez in the team.
@@paperplane-db8qf the difference is 4 world championships you effin genius
I am not a fan of Hamilton, but Russel did not destroy him. Hamilton scored more points over these 3 season. He drove the best car 8 years in a row, while Russel came from Williams, so driving the 3rd-4th car on the grid is less motovating to him for sure. If the 2024 Mercedes was worthy of a title fight, Hamilton would have beat Russel comfortably.
@@gaborvarga6567lol sir lulu would be destroyed by osama bin russel if not for his dnf in silverstone and his dq at spa. Lulu is finished. I say that as an A-grade osama hater
@@GhostOfParisMiami thats still not destroyed. Destroyed would be at the very least 60% of the total points in the team.
Mercedes above Red Bull is silly given there is a 4x WDC and current F1 driver vs a 3 time race winner and rookie.
My list is is based off ranking each driver then calculating an average of their ranks to rank the teams.
1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. Williams
4. Red Bull
5. Mercedes
6. Aston Martin
7. Kick Sauber
8. Haas
9. Alpine
10. Racing Bulls
"BA" giving only 15 points to LEC - HAM and 25 to PIA - NOR is wild
Even wilder is 18 points to Rus-Kimi 😅
Intrigued by Haas ranking so much higher than Alpine. Gasly proved himself above Ocon last year, and while I'm also not on the Doohan hype train, is Bearman really that much better for them to get double Alpine's points as a team?
Ben putting Leclerc and Hamilton 3rd is outrageous 🙈
100% between Ferrari and Mclaren, Ferrari makes the most sense in right now, McLaren is great but with the potential to either be elite or implode
How does Ferrari not have the same potential for implosion? All we need is one poor performance from Hamilton with him implying there was something wrong with his car specifically and Ferrari's gonna have a complete meltdown.
@@lukew6725No, I think he'll act differently at Ferrari than he did at Mercedes.
The McLaren pair is young and thirsty for wins as to eventually define a pecking order in the team going forward.
I don't expect any implosions though, fans are just a tad dramatic.
So you actually just combined the Points of the 2 Drivers and ranked them in order.
mine:
1. Mclaren
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. Williams
5. Mercedes
6. Haas
7. Aston Martin
8. Sauber
9. Alpine
10. Racing Bulls
Why on earth is Sauber in P8?? Unlike all of those other over-hyped rookie nobodies, Sauber has got the actual CHAMPION 🤦🤦
Is Hulk supposed to be useless, or what?
I love how they complained bout the unknown with Liam but it’s he will get thru it with Kimi 💀
kimi isnt an unknown. he is generational
@ tf u mean do u know how many people looked good in the lower category’s and shit the bed in f1 he legit crashed in his first and only practice session he is a complete unknown and to just assume he’s generational before he even has his first gp is Ludacris
@@weontop80 actually the answer is none. there was never a single driver who looked like this in his pre f1 career and ended up being bad. none. zero. fact is you have are simply clueless, he is generational, better than the likes of sainz, norris, piastri at this very moment in time already. aint no unknown.
@ ahahahahahahaha yea ur the biggest rider I have ever seen choke on it some more like the kid won’t be top 8 in the standing by the end of the year and your a casual cuz apparently u never heard of Robert Kubica or Heinz-Harald Frentzen or Antonio Pizzonia like u think kimi is the first young prodigy to be brought up? Like bro didn’t do a dam thing in f2 for u to be acting like he’s the next coming of Jesus
With piastri we are worried with one lap speed. With hamilton - no such worries? George beat him into a pulp. WHAT A JOKE of a ranking this is...
@@krolikkrol Because Hamilton usually makes up for that in the races and Piastri doesn't... for now at least.
Wish my dad owned an f1 team so I'd have a seat every year no matter what 😊
10 VACR, 9 Apline, 8 Haas, 7 Sauber, 6 Aston Martin, 5 Red Bull, 4 Mercedes, 3 Williams, 2 McLaren, 1 Ferrari.
I personally would switch Alpine v VACB and Merc v Redbull
If Sauber is 7 because of Colapinto, then Hadjar finishing second should be over Doohan.
Also Lawson is more proven than Antonelli, and Max > Russel.
How can aston be 6th with only one driver?
@@johncitizen306 because that one driver is as good as the others + a rookie in my opinion.
@puupää I toyed with the idea of Apline then VCAR but personally I think Gasly makes up the difference. Sauber is 7th because of Hulk and the very promising youngster who McLaren wanted to keep. Hadjar and Doolan are not near his level.
Again Mercedes and Red Bull was tough. I see Antonelli challenging like Piastri did in his first season and give Russell a run for his money, but I don't see Lawson on the same speed as Verstappen or Russell.
All of this is my opinion anyway.
Is Antonelli better than Bortoleto, RIGHT NOW?
Yes or no? 🤔🤔
Why Mercedes over Red Bull? Antonelli is still a question mark without having raced in F1. And is Russell better than Verstappen? Seems a bit odd to me. I can agree with positions 1 and 2
I dont know who Ben Anderson is but wtf is that list
I'm not a Max fan but he is a fantastic driver and champion, on his own without a team mate he should be 3rd at lease
so The Race once again shows it is incapable of picking winners. Their fanboy obsession with Hamilton is hilarious. Ferrari in 3rd this year, with Maclaren and Red Bull battling it out for 1st spot.
Mark my words… Ferrari is will lose the wcc because of sir lulu the melanin merchant. Charles and Sainz were basically the perfect team and if for some reason Ferrari didnt want Sainz for 2025 bearman or Bortoletto were both better options then mr stillwecry
Or maybe you underrate Lewis
@ sir lulu the melanin merchant is washed
The Verstappen/Red Bull diss is so funny Russell Antonelli is fourth not third lmaoooo. The top 3 is rounded out by Verstappen/Lawson
Mercedes are way too high, Red Bull and Williams have a better lineup than them imo
And Sauber 👍
Albon was struggling against Colapinto, he will get exposed pretty soon. Between Saind and Russell, I would definitely put Russell above.
It's a yoke that Doohan and Hadjar are on the grid while Theo Pourchaire flails in the wilderness.
Wtf are you talking about.?
Mercedes drivers above Redbull?
Ferrari above McLaren?????? Hamilton to old.
McLaren
RedBull
Ferrari
Mecedes
In F1 age is just number
It really depends on motivation
Lewis went from P10 to P2 in the fastest car(mercedes was clearly the best in las vegas)
So Ferrari has the strongest line up
Are you ok? Old Hamilton>Piastri, Leclerc>Norris and its not even close
Bearman and Russell.. you Brit pundits certainly have a type don't you? Starryeyed fools in love...
Max Verstappen alone should be 2nd or 3rd regardless who is teammate is. Even no teammate he should be ranked 2nd or 3rd.
Merc ahead of Redbull with no idea how Kimi is gonna be is insane, I thought this is a 2025 lineup not “line up with future potential”
Mercedes over Redbull? good joke :) I see that logic applies to lawsan do not apply to Antonelli? Or max is worse than George? Pure favoritism.
I have you guys have accidentally uploaded the ‘wishful thinking’ list 😂
Bloody hell I hope Piastri beats Norris
I really don't get the issues people have with Lando.
People have said that for the past two seasons & yet here we are.
Piastri is massively overrated imo and has the charisma of a damp pebble
Don’t worry, You will have your excuses again about how Piastri is still a rookie in his 3rd season.
Did you put money on it?