@@briFFF he's right tho lol. it was much more forgiving to land accurate shots at jump apex, especially with scout. cba to look up source, it was a long time ago. just know that at the next major after the jumping double the same clip would've been practically impossible.
the fact that even on match point of map 3 of a major grand final, ropz had the perfect positioning for the jump, the perfect counter strafe, and the perfect timing for the apex of the jump, shows how much of a goat he was during that entire major
@ That's a valid take. I think optimal play there is probably to spam the smoke towards car and hope for the very low % shot to land because that baits the site guy to push forward to punish you as they can't counter-spam the smoke due to you being able to tuck in behind the wall and if they try to pressure Ropz from site Rain would have the free kill. Second best play is probably to go for the low % though and as the first play would require a lot of coordination (aka explaining the idea to rain) it wasn't viable in the timeframe they had anyway.
@@mooncalf_4534I think the chance it’s being held is incredibly low, not just in any scenario but this context. Rain kills the other T trying to advance onto site, with the T near car preoccupied with rain, so it’s just chopper trying to go for a bomb plant, the chances he can get away with missing this shot and going unpunished are higher than it usually would be
The moment when it was done together with Rain performance simultaneously hits different. But I knew that it is pretty common shot, as I did it multiple times myself. What is cool about the video is the level of your patience and attention to the details. For me the idea of air counterstrafing in this situation was new. It actually can save the moment due to the fact that you can start this move for a split second earlier and kill the bomber before they plant. I always did it with just a straight jump. Thank you and good job!
@jonnytheagent1870 you can. Perfect stafe + perfect timing to take the shot (if you're a single tick later than max accuracy in a jump, it drops down to bottom accuracy)
@jonnytheagent1870 he might be doing it a lot more than normal players do though and have a better feel for it. Because he knows it's low risk for him as it's unexpected. And he knows he can time it well. But you're right, you cant really get good at this by practicing
Could you do a followup? I'd be quite interested how the chances change if you don't time your shot perfectly or strafe perfectly. Thanks for this analysation in any way, really well done. :)
If the CS2 bug didn't cause Broky to miss the smoke in the next round, this could have become one of the most legendary plays of all time. The lifeline that saved them when all hope was lost.
You could just code a monte carlo simulation of the given scenario, define the area which kills and get more precise probability with larger sample size
i once hit a jumpshot across lake, i estimated the chances of hitting it and killing a full hp player to approximatly 1 in 17 000 by a wacky "measure the area of inaccurcy of the awp noscope, and compare it to the area of the target", i would be very interested to see a precise script like yours on that shot if you're intrested (i can send link to said jumpshot)
But the way, the bullet spread square depends on your movement speed the less it is the smaller the square, there was a feature that when you shot at your maximum y axis you have the smallest spread square, with awp it still be somehow relied no random, but with ssg for example you can hit 100% shots all the time.
assuming the bullet has roughly equal chance of going somewhere in the box, couldn't you just calculate the % of the box the player model takes up and use that as a % of the time they will get hit?
1 in 5 if you do it perfectly id say its more of a 1 in 10 chance since how often will you do that perfectly especially as a normal player and not a pro but still very valid to go for it if you practice the jump shot counter strafe/timing for minimal spread
I mean yeah he did everything perfectly to I guess minimize the RNG a little bit but still its hard to call it anything else than what it was, a lucky kill regardless. As awesome of a moment it was to see live I cant help but to feel like the other team got absolutely bullshitted on in one of the most impactful rounds of the map. But thats partly what makes cs unpredictable and amazing, its not like quake where everything is 100% quaranteed accurate laserbeams. Technically in every onetap you go for at range theres and element of RNG that decides if you hit or miss no matter if you aim perfectly at the center of the head.
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Now How lucky was the COLDZERA double jumping no scope kills ahah
@@trashcleaner mid air? source?
@@trashcleaner not true tho
@@briFFF ruclips.net/video/cjOVXdarUTs/видео.html
@@humbertobohrer i was responding to a guy that said coldzeras shot was easier because the awp was more accurate, he has since deleted the comment
@@briFFF he's right tho lol. it was much more forgiving to land accurate shots at jump apex, especially with scout. cba to look up source, it was a long time ago. just know that at the next major after the jumping double the same clip would've been practically impossible.
the fact that even on match point of map 3 of a major grand final, ropz had the perfect positioning for the jump, the perfect counter strafe, and the perfect timing for the apex of the jump, shows how much of a goat he was during that entire major
xddd thats crazy strider in this video
how will this affect the phantom forces situation
@@caseydanger5648 xd thats crazy
fr KQLY taught him well
switching to cs2 from pf!?!!?!?!
The chances are actually a lot higher than I personally expected. But also credits to ropz's perfect movement.
True!
And you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, ropz identified that he could take this gamble which is characteristic of a true pro.
There was a higher chance of this being at least partially held and him dying for it than this hitting
@@mooncalf_4534 if he didnt they wouldve lost anyway, he was stuck behind the smoke with an awp, it was a forced gamble
@ That's a valid take. I think optimal play there is probably to spam the smoke towards car and hope for the very low % shot to land because that baits the site guy to push forward to punish you as they can't counter-spam the smoke due to you being able to tuck in behind the wall and if they try to pressure Ropz from site Rain would have the free kill. Second best play is probably to go for the low % though and as the first play would require a lot of coordination (aka explaining the idea to rain) it wasn't viable in the timeframe they had anyway.
@@mooncalf_4534I think the chance it’s being held is incredibly low, not just in any scenario but this context. Rain kills the other T trying to advance onto site, with the T near car preoccupied with rain, so it’s just chopper trying to go for a bomb plant, the chances he can get away with missing this shot and going unpunished are higher than it usually would be
@a1m.. Indeed, Ropz's timing here is very deliberate
20% but now do it on a match point :))
Ye and fuck this no skill things more Luke lucky things in this game the same with bloom on rifles it is still random where the bullet will go
@@Cipskowhat the actual fuck did you attempt to say with this comment
You will still have 1/5 chance to hit 🤷♀
@@DarkEagle26 if you time it perfectly which is harder under all that pressure
@@Cipskonice english man
This is an intelligent and informative way of breaking down this interaction. Really nice!
The moment when it was done together with Rain performance simultaneously hits different. But I knew that it is pretty common shot, as I did it multiple times myself. What is cool about the video is the level of your patience and attention to the details. For me the idea of air counterstrafing in this situation was new. It actually can save the moment due to the fact that you can start this move for a split second earlier and kill the bomber before they plant. I always did it with just a straight jump. Thank you and good job!
ropz definitely looks like a guy who would practice crazy shit just in case it comes in handy.
well you cant really practice this
@jonnytheagent1870 you can. Perfect stafe + perfect timing to take the shot (if you're a single tick later than max accuracy in a jump, it drops down to bottom accuracy)
@jonnytheagent1870watching s1mple’s noscopes, you’d think he practices it lmao
@jonnytheagent1870 he might be doing it a lot more than normal players do though and have a better feel for it. Because he knows it's low risk for him as it's unexpected. And he knows he can time it well. But you're right, you cant really get good at this by practicing
@jonnytheagent1870counter strafe yes
crazy move to go for this before even hearing plant too, no fear from ropz
20% feels a lot higher than i would've expected lol.
Jumping sideways like ropz did also makes it harder for the enemy to hit you, in case they're expecting a jumpshot attempt.
I was so there when that happened and now this very cool breakdown makes that moment even more epic. Let's go Leetify! Subbed
Just wanted to comment I like how you didn't leave a single variable out, you didn't forget the strafe, and you got exact pos.
Yooo my goat mahone is back!!
Now how lucky was the KQLY jumping usp kill
3kliks made a video on that
@@MusicJunkie37like 10 years ago 😂
@@IcECreAm-sv2qv so? should still apply today
@@IcECreAm-sv2qv and when do you think KQLY's shot happened exactly?
@plmyop6756 like 10 years ago? 😂
we aren't even gonna talk about coldzera's jump shots? Those are legendary!
Now imagine the chances of hitting a jumping collateral no scope at 3 times the distance.
Nicely edited video. GJ.
ok but what about KQLY's?
i mean, he cheated. but yeah, before getting caught, the hype was there.
@dat-ta false
@@PaSanGaming it's true. He was VAC banned
@@sitaro1207 I was there when it happened. There are more details you are ignoring
@@dat-ta he cheated, but the jump shot wasn't a product of the cheating. him hitting that shot was just as lucky as a legit player hitting it.
mahone only posts bangers
Ayyy, my goat love your stuff
wow a cs clip i was actually there to watch
You could use probability to calculate the chance, you have to use the area of the hitbox of the player and divide by the area that he could hit
Close enough, welcome back KQLY.
then there is zuhn who hits jumping noscope for much larger distances every time
this video reminds me of when klik did a similar thing but for the kqly jump shot way back when
damn man, this is good stuff, love this kind of analysis, Thank you for the video
this made me sub, what a great video and execution
love these kinda videos, mahone is the goat
the shot was so good that Chopper fall out of the map too XD
short answer: yes it happens quite often if you know how to do it the chance is about 1 in 5
Ropz thought he was me
Nice work. 20% are good odds. I'll try this.
this replay gave me dejavu
do you get dejavu
Could you do a followup? I'd be quite interested how the chances change if you don't time your shot perfectly or strafe perfectly.
Thanks for this analysation in any way, really well done. :)
But ropz did it perfectly, there is no need to do that
@@fica1137 ????
If the CS2 bug didn't cause Broky to miss the smoke in the next round, this could have become one of the most legendary plays of all time. The lifeline that saved them when all hope was lost.
He opened a case after this
ahhh i was expecting a percentage of the accuracy, but close enough
unemployed final boss😭😭
ive been saying, going for more "silly" attempts at a wall bang jump shot or whatever, you hit them more then you'd think
you hit every shot you don't miss
Every chance I get on Dust 2, I always go for it
wow well made
You gotta take in action that this is if the guy is somewhere around where Chopper was & that you shoot at the correct time too
Now how lucky was the KQLY jumping shot at the same place?
Only the real ones will remember.
thx for the work
bro's so mad he noclipped 😭
20% sounds like alot but he had to do everything perfect to make it that high and under high pressure. sheeeeeeeeesh
I can’t believe I have a better faze themed stat chrome cannon than even ropz
You could just code a monte carlo simulation of the given scenario, define the area which kills and get more precise probability with larger sample size
Community called KQLY as a cheater when he did jumpshot from the same position, now they're calling ropz as a legend.
he was called a cheater because he was caught cheating lol
i thought this was an old video at first, i saw the thumbnail and the title and thought this was some 3kliksphilip video about kqly lol
I feel like watching this actually made me a better player - or at least that's what I''ll tell myself when I try this out 😅
The reason he jumped right instead of jumping straight up was cus there was a thicker smoke on the right.
Quality content!
I recently did a similar jumping noscope from almost the same position, but i got the kill on short, it also was a hs. Blew my mind
the body falling through the ground lol
Super interesting, i expected around 3% tbh
It's a Hail Mary.
You have to be desperate to attempt it.
20% is a hail Mary? he also wasn't at any risk, the person on site couldn't possibly react fast enough to shoot, let alone kill, the jumping enemy
@@RycoonGalloyyou're completely wrong. It's relatively easy to react and kill there
i once hit a jumpshot across lake, i estimated the chances of hitting it and killing a full hp player to approximatly 1 in 17 000 by a wacky "measure the area of inaccurcy of the awp noscope, and compare it to the area of the target", i would be very interested to see a precise script like yours on that shot if you're intrested (i can send link to said jumpshot)
There's no luck when it comes to noscopes
Gaming Chair diff
They changed the jumpshooting after this though.
awesome vid
Nice music
Fire video
Didn't kliksphilip do this months ago?
But the way, the bullet spread square depends on your movement speed the less it is the smaller the square, there was a feature that when you shot at your maximum y axis you have the smallest spread square, with awp it still be somehow relied no random, but with ssg for example you can hit 100% shots all the time.
So you should go for close range/standing still jump shots more often
Nice vid. I don’t even play csgo. How did you get all the info about his movements and location?
assuming the bullet has roughly equal chance of going somewhere in the box, couldn't you just calculate the % of the box the player model takes up and use that as a % of the time they will get hit?
great video
this is awesome. just out of curiosity, is this harder to hit than the KQLY jumping shot?
Ok but, what's the final odds for ropz's shot?
you ok?
He said 1 in 5, but that's pretty vague.
@ how is that vague. what else can he say 1/5 but only when the weather is sunny
@ it's imprecise. the odds obviously wouldn't come to a nice even number like that.
@@georgejpg did you even watch the video my guy?
Just out of curiosity, why 641 shots?
music?
im whiffing 100 % of the time i try that and getting killed by the player at car or ramp 100 % of the time too
It's very hard to get the perfect box timing even with scout
is it was lan?
ropz is movement god .i dont think he did that desperately he knew when to shoot and how to approach well calculated
Reminds me of philip
I find doing noscopes in CS2 a lot easier then in CSGO.
Not sure but i think moving the mouse before a noscope actually helps hitting it - makes no sense but feels like it does something
It doesn't.
placebo effect
Just take area of body and divide it on area of square.
kqly with an awp
How lucky was the KQLY jumping no scope kill?
Banger
how lucky was QKLY?
I am getting deja vu of when 3kliksphilips made kqly analysis 💀
great science
It's actually kinda easy to hit tbh
clearly a 50/50 shot, you hit it or you dont
1 in 5 if you do it perfectly
id say its more of a 1 in 10 chance since how often will you do that perfectly especially as a normal player and not a pro
but still very valid to go for it if you practice the jump shot counter strafe/timing for minimal spread
As long as you stop in middle of air you are accurate, most players know about counterstrafing not pros lol
i love rng
KQLY flashback
Remember KQLY
short and sweet!! great use of your scripting skills
Fye
do KQLY next
I mean yeah he did everything perfectly to I guess minimize the RNG a little bit but still its hard to call it anything else than what it was, a lucky kill regardless. As awesome of a moment it was to see live I cant help but to feel like the other team got absolutely bullshitted on in one of the most impactful rounds of the map. But thats partly what makes cs unpredictable and amazing, its not like quake where everything is 100% quaranteed accurate laserbeams. Technically in every onetap you go for at range theres and element of RNG that decides if you hit or miss no matter if you aim perfectly at the center of the head.
ropz timing was better than your script shot