Gilgo Beach Murders: DNA from Suspect’s Wife Found at Crime Scene
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2023
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Hair from Rex Heuermann’s wife Asa Ellerup was reportedly found on burlap used to wrap multiple female victims in Long Island, according to law enforcement sources. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber sits down with forensic DNA expert Tiffany Roy to analyze how her DNA could have gotten there and what it means for the case.
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Could the wife be a part of these murders? Like Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka 😮🤔
Do NOT EVER WILLINGLY give away your DNA, especially to the government. What a bunch of BS.
May I ask, do we know when the trial is?
Nothing would surprise me after she got that 1 million dollar deal and showed up at court hearing smiling at Rex.
I wouldn’t disqualify her without further investigation.
Right 🤔
Stop, this is ridiculous
A surviving victim went to the home and asa was there with rex they were swingers. Asa when her husband was first arrested and a reporter asked her about her husband being a serial killer said "it is what it is". Asas hairs were found on 3 of the victims but no1 elses in the house including pets. She lawyers up straight away, starts a gofundme, starts divorce proceedings but still goes to court to see her husband, signs a million dollar deal with peacock and a seperate undisclosed deal with 50 cents production company. Asa has never shown any sympathy towards the victims or the victims families. Imo she was complicit and involved at some degree and should be thoroughly investigated
Great points. She probably divorced him so the victims can't get any of his money.
It's done all the time
She could have known or suspected, may have been complicit, yet at the same time may have been afraid of Rex, and wondered if she and the children would be next. If Rex had somebody on the police force in his back pocket, then Asa didn't stand a chance.
@@twovirginiacats3753If she knew, she was complicit per her silence. Accessory after the fact *and* an enabler.
Clout chaser
@@pipermccool If she knew, then she should have dropped a dime on him a long time ago. It would have saved law enforcement a lot of time and money and may have saved the lives of many. Rex sure was busy. What a nut.
Out of town when they went missing doesn't necessarily mean out of town when they were murdered.....
@lorraine9380 Great point! What if Rex detained these women in his house? How could she not know something nefarious was going on?
YES!!
When this first came out, I tried to keep an open mind and after hearing how they lived like hoarders, messy, etc…it made sense more that the wives hair and dna could have been transferred. But it’s still strange that it was found one multiple bodies and its come out that she was aware of her husband’s activities…and participated in some…so nothing will surprise me with this case!
One person’s “memory” of something that happened over 25 years ago does not make it a fact. That person could have been under the influence of drugs/alcohol at the time. Or she could be looking for attention. I won’t believe her story unless there is actual evidence, like a photograph. It’s a good thing crimes are not solved on gossip or hearsay..
@@christinajones8054her dna is found on the bodies therefore it’s not far fetched that she could be involved after he killed these women. I wouldn’t disregard that fact.
@@claudia5908it seems far more Far-fetched than simple transfer DNA.
They wouldn't be the first serial killing couple. Far from it.
@@fitcher-armchair-sleuth No, but that scenario is extremely rare. There is also no evidence of that, only speculation.
So, the inference here is that: if the wife's hair is on the crime scene evidence, then it came from Their home. That's pretty damning to his defense!! Nobody wants to be Rex's defense attorney right now! ✅️
She needs to be well investigated..
I cannot IMAGINE that ogre’s horrible face being the last thing those poor girls saw!💔
I know Asa looks terrifying 😳
They both Creepy af
Right?! Yuk 🤮
😢
He's a Evil wicked Demon
My hair is EVERYWHERE! At my house, my job, etc. Also I send out my laundry and find strangers hairs. I go to a friend’s house, their dog’s hair is on my clothes. As sophisticated as we are with DNA,we also have to factor in normal human behavior. Otherwise we are just seeing trees, no forest.
Is your hair on any dead bodies?
Well what about the kids hair why wasn't their hairs found, the place was filthy there should have been other hsirs.
Odd it was only hers
@@LostHope84exactly!!!
@@loopy1159exactly!!
@@loopy1159 no not odd, it happens ?
Then why didn't we hear about any of their kids dna or hair on the vics or at crime scene 🤔
Good question
Maybe because his kids aren't sleeping in the same bed and doing his laundry.
Maybe because once a woman hits menopause she loses alot more hair than a younger person. And sometimes a parents uses more things around the house than the kids.
Good point
Good point
As a blonde woman with medium-length hair, it is impossible for my husband to leave the house without at least one hair somewhere on his person. If he’s wearing a fleece jacket, he looks like he rolled around in my hair. This doesn’t seem weird to me.
Throughout all these past decades of serial killer cases, how many of them had the killer's wife, kids, family, or friend’s DNA on them? 😅
Good point!
Right!
Probably all of them that had family. LOL.
😂 👍@@Mark3-16
Truth!
It’s disgusting 🤮 that peacock is giving this woman the wife of the killer 1 million dollars specially when her hair was found in various victims and inside a bag or something the a body was put into and there’s some people saying that she knew because they had went to his house and she was there even one day accused one of stealing her clothing iron and went to the woman driver that was outside of the house to look for it
Witnesses have come forward saying the wife was with him at swinger parties. That doesn't prove her involved but it certainly paints a different picture...and now she made a deal with peacock? She should be at the very least investigated.
Not only peacock she also made a deal with 50 cent and his production team... I agree she definitely needs further investigation
Wow 🤯
That only proves she participated in swinger parties in the 1990s but the time period does not match the charges for murders in the late 2000s and 2010s. The DA would have to find additional victims from the 1990s to make use of the swinger parties evidence. Was she involved? Maybe but additional evidence is needed to prove that.
Profiting from the deaths that’s what it feels like
It's very possible she was luring the woman and hugging them ! And helping with the crime !
Yep Karla Holmolka
As someone who sheds a lot of hair, this is my worst nightmare
Rex Heuermann is an absolute boogie man.
Facts 🧟
If he took stuff from their home then her dna would be on items like garbage bags and whatever else came from the house. However, Ive felt she’s been shady since the beginning.
Me too!
She’s grieving and the press wouldn’t leave her property line, just sitting there filming her crying and trying to live. You don’t even have a chance to even worry about yourself with so much going on. I don’t know how I’d act either
@@marissa3199 Do grieving wives profit of their husbands crimes by signing $1M documentary deals?
And I think you're shady but that's not evidence of anything, Inspector Gadget
I commented about this on another post. And whilst yes, her DNA could be at crime scene/s because of transfer, in other cases, things like hair have been used to directly link a person to being present at scene when the crime took place. Take Lori Vallow for example (yes there was plenty of other evidence against her) the prosecution in that case argued that her hair, on a blanket from her house, under duct tape, placed her at the scene. They didn’t view it as transfer, which it very well could have been. I just find it interesting how different prosecutors argue the same point differently. They may well have looked into the wife and have not found any other evidence to say she is involved. And yes, I know how much hair us women shed, I’m not saying it’s impossible, just interesting.
There would need to be supporting facts that indicate the DNA wasn't transferred, which could be anything. In the case of duct tape it's interesting because the sticky adhesive doesn't get exposed until it's unrolled, creating a 'snapshot in time' if you will. That's why it wasn't considered transfer in Lori's case.
@@joshlampe3458 but they just said in this case, the wife’s hair was also found under duct tape?
@@My-22-Centsso she should be questioned she was a swinger and they came to her house to swing ! So a key witness has stated
@@My-22-Cents It was found on burlap used to wrap a victim, not tape. That's my understanding, anyway.
@@joshlampe3458 4:17 go back and listen. I’ll correct myself that he says, in this particular video, under tape. But I have read many articles that say that hairs were under duct tape. That’s why I I pulled the comparison to Lori.
She probably watched and then helped dispose
Hair on one victim is circumstance. Hair on two victims is suspicious, and hair on three is a pattern. Or were the hairs transferred 3 separate times? What does he do, roll around in it before he goes out?
😂
Agreed
Lolol 🤭
If the guy was using blankets or something from their house, not crazy that there would be hair transfer.
Agree
I think they were both involved, like Fred and Rose West, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka,
At this point seems that her DNA is all over the place, definetly they should look carefully into this.
"all over the place"..LOL really, who would have thought that her dna would be on him while his was doing dirty..hmm🤔🤔
@@misswildlife7905 allegedly she was out of town and he did not take regular showers. Jezz they didn't even clean the house.
The word is definitely you're an attorney you should know that😂😂😂
Is it me or does the wife look MUCH better since getting rid of Rex?
Keep his secrets weighted her down.
She looks much better after she signed a $1million deal and has a doco crew following her around.
It's just you.
Looks healthier yeah
She is still clinically obese...with makeup.....
Before bearing flaming torches and drawing conclusions about this woman, do not forget the partners and spouses of creatures like Ridgeway and BTK. They DID NOT KNOW. Not all partners are crime pundits like we are. It's totally unreasonable to make assumptions considering our addiction to true crime vs a person who's oblivious.
Sadly, I bet there are countless partners/spouses cohabiting to this day with partners/spouses who have been murdering people for months/years/decades.
Well, duh.
@@jadepilllFBI ruled her out right away, did you know you lose up to around 100 hairs a mo on a low end. I'm still surprised by how many of my hairs I find in clothes after laundry, I cleaned out. If she was the stay at home housewife doing those chores it's not crazy to say she handled belts, sweaters, etc etc
_Cherchez la femme_
Those other partners were not participating in their husbands sexcapades. One witness seen a nude girl running and screaming from the home and the wife said they were role playing. Odds are stacking up against her
@@jadepilll😂😂😂
arrest her and interrogate her!!!!
No way man! They cannot clear her of this. She is involved.
Women said she was there when they went to they house She plays a Big part in this !!!!!!!💯
So nice to hear an actual expert explain facts. So tired of people automatically jumping to conclusions and judging Asa when there is no evidence to do so. Be kind everyone. Asa has NOT been charged with any crimes.
THERE IS EVIDENCE!!!! Her hair is all over dead people FFS!!!!
Even Rex is innocent until proven guilty.
@@sauce1232 Of course. But he is in jail charged with 4 murders. Asa has been cleared by the police of any possible wrongdoing. HUGE difference.
He has two adult children,, two cats and a dog,, was any of their hairs found or only his wife
Exactly!!! why isnt her daughters and sons hair showing up???
Only his wife “police off the cuff” on RUclips is great to understanding possibilities and their professional take on this crime
She absolutely knows or was involved in my opinion, never seen her act shocked, sad, mad her face has always been "Uh Oh" a look of guilt and busted.
@kelaya528 She also said she wants to attend court to decide for herself if her husband is guilty. Is she trying to decide or watching what he says, because he could implicate her? She’s a very odd duck. I can’t believe Peacock gave her a million dollar deal. She is profiting off the tragedy of others. All of that money should go to the victim’s families.
@@alpschild oh l 100% agree with you! The moment l seen her l thought she was odd. Plus the living conditions etc for an architect they are both weirdos.
It depends on the time period though. The charges are for his murders in the 2000s and 2010s. The DA needs evidence proving she was involved besides DNA. I'm talking about witness testimony or phone calls from her phone to any of the victims. I suspect there are additional victims that are pre-2000s and those are the ones she would be more involved with so the DA just needs mores evidence to file charges against her
She knew about it all 💯
Estranged?
Uh no...seperated by jail bars...yes.
She filed for divorce days after his arrest.
@@North_West1 Rat fleeing a sinking ship
@@North_West1 For reasons no-one knows as yet. Could have been simply to protect assets.
Funny how the kids DNA isn't showing up.
ductape would be opened on the spot so how did the transfer occur, maybe maybe not
She just signed that $1M doc deal and was smiling in court. Does this mean she’s involved? No. But her behavior is crass to say the least.
I like how law and crime is advertising for ppl to give up their dna. This country is so gone.
@donnyeisenbacher6896 That’s exactly how LE caught the Golden State Killer and Bryan Kohberger, among so many others. If you have nothing to hide, DNA isn’t a problem.
I thinks they waiting on her divorce to be over before they charge her.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,etc. I predict she is probably getting an immunity deal!
She probably involved and was there. He’s not going to tell on his wife he will take the fall.
if asa's dna could e chalked up to some type of accidental transfer, why is her kids dna/hair on anything?
Dogs and cats too were probably present
That's a good question
@@carlmorgan8452
I believe both 🤷🏻
💜✌🏻
It's clear she had contact with victims close contact ! It's obvious
I find it odd that her hair transfer and his but not kids hairs were found,if it was transfer you would think it would be. All families hair transfer odd to me
They did find one of his hairs
I Don’t believe she didn’t know O”Suspected anything from what her Sick husband was doing!! Wen he did Al his dirty work at their house’ but she choose to look the other way🤦🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️ Theirs people that lives doble life’s and their partners don’t even know about’ but with all the things that this man was doing and at one point question about the murders and this lady still looked the other way🤔 I don’t believe her..O” her children🤔 hope this victims get some peace now🙏😇🙌
I think she knew and helped
I think she is involved. When is the last time you heard of a family members dna at a crime scene? And multiple scenes? She is involved.
You obviously don’t know much about how DNA transfers from person to person from item to item. It’s called touch DNA
Serial killers work alone
@@crede9427that’s untrue they don’t always work alone. Look at Fred West and Rose West. The Ken and Barbie killers, there are many more.
@@crede9427not all there's plenty that has had partners two males and a male and female partners.
Sorry women, we know we're all nosey and we all know what our husbands are doing at most times, so how she never knew he was bringing girls home I don't believe it. She knows more than she knows.
i don't believe he brought the girls home. also, his wife was away on a trip during every or most of the murders.
They were swingers, and she was there when the girls came home.
You know what you think they are doing, not what they actually are.
Lol so naive.
@@weewooweewoo906 When exactly were they murdered? Hypothetical question cos nobody knows.
What if it was her or both doing the crime?
I knew it she is just as twisted as he is!
okay my boyfriend CANNOT leave our place without being covered in both my hair and my dog's hair, despite his many attempts. I shed so much, my hair is on everything in our home, entwined in blankets, his socks, etc. during the wash, despite vacuuming constantly etc. Idk I think people saying the more hair there is the more likely she is to be involved are kind of missing the fact its more likely that it's just suggesting the items used definitely came from his house. making the assumption that she was involved seems like a stretch. wives of such deplorable serial killers often have no idea. they have a complete double life and do it well.
Too many holes to fill in in this story before geeting a clearer picture. It's all bits and pieces of whatever at the moment and it sure makes this family look like they had some strange behavior patterns.
So, Rex was fishing for call girls on burner phones while his wife & kids were away. He picked up (?) his victims or they came with taxi to wherever, presumably. There, Rex had fun with them ( in the car?) (In the wild?) (in his house?) (In a motel?) WHERE?? where there was ALSO Asas hair on him? Asa went on a trip, remember, so, did Rex not change shirts in that time or did everything he wore have Asas hairs on it?
How about this wild theory, he places Asas hairs in the burlaps/on the bodies, on PURPOSE? Because he reckoned that would throw spanners in the works if he got caught one day? What if it was Asa he was killing in his mind over and over? Something very odd was swirling around the head of this ogre so what i'm suggesting may not be so far fetched.
I'm coming up with with a very hypothetical theory here that would NOT implicate Asa in any way ( a lot of people seem to get ever so upset about implicating Asa in any way ) , but at the end of the day the fact remains that - When the victims disappeared ( Asa was on her trips ((by coincidence?) is NOT necessarily the same dates as the victims actually died. None of us knows at this point how long he held his victims captive, and with that, nobody knows when Asa came back home..and may in such case as Rex keeping the women captives for a longer period of time, in his house for example, Asa may very well have returned home before anyone at all died. See what i mean?
All the people that sent this killer and his wife money are idiots! Of course she was in on it. She knew exactly what he was doing!
How do you know? You don't it's fanciful speculation on your behalf. Don't post it as fact.
Yep idiots!!!
She needs to be charged, she’s not innocent
She knows she knows
Whether she was in on it has yet to be said. But she knew something was running amuck. Ladies. We always know. The fun part about knowing, is them thinking that we don't.
Yes, us women notice the smallest of changes in behavior of our husbands and partners, that much is true, but if other testimonies are accurate, Asa knew what her hubby was up to and she was up to it herself ( they were swingers ) , hence she may very well have known what ELSE her hubby was up to, and she didn't care, OR,..the worst possible scenario being, she was in to "that" too... ? This is all a big speculation pool at the moment.
You forgot to mention that 1. The house was transferred into her name. 2. The 100ks deal she got. 3. We don't actually know when the victims were killed. Great guest tho.
Anyone that doesn’t think she’s involved is a fool.
Clearly, anyone watching this video is looking to see HOW she was involved NOT whether or not she was involved by the video's title.
Hairs on all three, ........ Dang.
Didnt one of the victims call the police and was recorded saying ( they are after me when she was running ))??I swear I remember hearing that on one of the shoes reporting on the victims..Maybe his wife could be involved!!!
You are 100% right . That person was Shannen. She definitely said " they "
See, gotta wait til it all plays out
its funny that she divorced him a day after he got caught like she's free and clear but still with him and visiting him like normal
Its facts like these that make me hate true crime fans. "OMG THE WIFE WAS INVOLVED Y'ALL"
It's politically correct to assume innocent until proven guilty
How many wives DNA was ever found on a victims body like this let alone multiple?
Good point
No doubt law & crime are going to try and make this sound more nefarious than it is. She was married to a serial killer and likely intimate with him frequently... So it's really not that surprising that her DNA would be on him which would then in turn end up on a victim. It takes literally nothing to transfer DNA between people, we all do it all day every day. If anything, this further proves his guilt.
Wife’s hair would be all over their shared house.
This. It's quite obvious she wasn't involved.
Thank you
Throughout history how many other serial killers had their wives dna on them while they killed someone where it was left at the scene ?
@@blakeb9964obvious how
She knew alllll along
She must have known what was going on
I thought this was already known… 🤷♀️
Either she was there, or she helped him get rid of the bodies .
Is there death penalty in New York?
I'm from Europe, and No, no death penalty in N.Y.
It was stated they think they were killed in his house, as of July 2023. Of course her DNA would be on them she lived there.
She needs to be Indited
Please don’t give her money on fund me unless you want to help a woman who knew and helped kill!
She must have gone out of town an awful lot
Well, she has thick, long, hair hanging lose. Her hair would be on pretty much everything in that house. It is bad for HIS case, but does not in any way prove she was involved at all.
Their house was a hoarders paradise I’m sure they never vacuumed
I would imagine her hair would be on their bed too. So if any of the victims are tape up on the bed would explain her hair being on the tape.
Um there are many serial killers with families and there hair isn't at crime scenes
@@astridwhomes9724 where was the crime scene? We know where the bodies were found but where did the murders take place?
Why was this just posted? It’s been known for months that his wife’s hair had been found on a body/bodies. . .
I'm getting Fred and Rose West vibes
Its also possible she either helped him with torture and murders and/or helped him get rid of the bodies
Tiffany Roy was a very intelligent and excellent guest, would love to see her back!
Interviewers interviewing interviewers for comment spoils it.
It changes everything
No sheet. 😂 I been said this. Wife probably the ring leader
Also depending on how clean their home is, there could be a plethora of hair everywhere
Please someone respond to me. How is this different from the previous evidence that caught him? I’m referring to how the wife’s DNA was also on some of the victims and that also factored into how they caught him
Wow !!!
Wasn't a bunch of money just raised for this woman? I hope I'm mistaken.
That woman was always aware. She's just as guilty.
Wow you know more than the cops do about her.
@@sweetiepie3359 Read the reports that have surfaced from other abductees and prostitutes who have been to the house and seen, heard and even spoke to this criminal.
I think she should be arrested period.
Its a joke people think she had nothing to do with it....she knows
I’ve been saying since I heard about the hair the wife had something to do with it too
2:50 to skip their personal ad of the video
Thank you law and crime for following this story. I definitely think the wife is involved!
I wonder if that monster placed his wife's hair on the tape on purpose to blame her?
I thought from the beginning she wasn't as innocent as everyone thought!! Just my opinion!!
She was out of town when the women disappear but we don't know where she was when the body's was discarded. So maybe she was present when the body's was prepared for beeing dumped. I don't think she doesn't knew and doesn't participated in some way. She must be put through interrogation.
He tryin keep $ under her name but she was implicit in the murdered arrest her now
Basically they are saying that ASA wasn’t involved because she was away when these poor women went missing. Ammm is there any proof as to exactly when the victims died ? Her DNA is on the victim’s so why are they trying to rule her out?
On the circumstances of it she is as potentially guilty as him
So she was in on it… not surprised how he hid his fantasy for so long
It's simple either she confesses or we prove it but either way she's involved!