Ayyyyyy fellow contra!! About to go to fall cleaning camp for 7 hours in the ninety degree weather! Which is really hot for my state at this time of year lol. If your marching this year, good luck lol
@@Ovunix PLEASE beat Crown this weekend. My friends and I have been rooting for Regiment all season, and watching yall at Denton was a highlight of my summer. We believe in Phantom Regiment❤ SUTA
DCI member here. No member is getting paid to march. There are some corps that award a handful of members with a scholarship but they are not paying them
I feel like all of these aren’t the best example. It be like saying a loaf of bread isn’t made of grain. It’s EXTREMELY competitive, extremely hard, and uh, ya know, a lot more mentally taxing/engaging than any other sport I’ve ever heard of
Most people don't consider marching band a sport because the general public only sees the side of marching band that consists of playing during halftime for football games, which obviously isn't a sport. There are a lot of people who don't know just how big the competition side of marching band is. Marching band at the high school and dci levels should absolutely be considered a sport. College level is a bit more murky, since football halftime shows are the main focus of most college marching bands, but even then, some college bands do participate in competitions with other bands. Whether or not you consider marching band a sport, it would be foolish to undermine the amount of physical and mental work that goes into the activity. In truth, marching band is one of the most complex activities that a human being can do, requiring incredible amounts of focus and control in the lower body, upper body, lungs, and brain.
Even for bands that don’t do competitions (like my own) there is definitely still a competitive spirit seeing how well the other band at halftime stacks up to your own and vice versa.
Ah yes, thank you my fellow passionate sports player/musician. I am a mellophone player and this made my day I have to explain this so many times to people...
You see, my band actually DID run suicides. Not every day, but about once a week. And one of the Trumpets my senior year actually injured himself by not being able to stop before he hit a brick wall
Drum corps member here! Whilst I was in Open Class in past season, we don’t get paid to march in any corps. (At least not of what I’m aware of lol.) But the thousands of dollars we pay to march for a summer is worth every penny. If you ever wanna march, there are corps out there willing to work with you for payment plans! I’d definitely recommend virtual auditions for saving some money! And yes, Marching Band is a sport, sue me.
I marched flute for a while before switching to Colorguard. It is absolutely a sport and I’m tired of being denied the glory of being called an athlete. If I can run and dance around a football field for 10 minutes while shouting counts and spinning/tossing a 6 foot flag, I can do literally anything.
@@gabrieljohnson2645 i feel like saying "marching band is a sport" is an overstatement. not all marching bands compete. i think there seems to be a very blurry line of what is a sport and what isn't and competitive marching bands are kinda in that gray area. this goes with the physical aspect of sports too. not all bands are as active as others. dci corps and even some highschool/college bands have crazy drill which requires a LOT of physical work. but then you have these small bands that have easy to moderate drill. sure people get mad when you say marching band isn't a sport. I personally don't think you can say it's one or the other, especially when there are so many types of marching bands. sorry for the lengthy comment lol, but I do agree with the name competitive performance art. i think people don't like marching band being called not a sport because it makes them feel like all their hard work is being downplayed. but it doesn't mean you can't make it it's own thing.
@@devoffline i've done Big 10 and Big 10 style bands, taught competitive highschools and marched world champion winning drum corps, as well as being a world record holding powerlifter and state champion swimmer so I definitely get that. Everything has its own set of physical demands. a lot of sports aren't physical in the same way or physically demanding at all. People on both side get too hung up on the physicality. I think it comes down to objective scores vs subjective scores whether to call or a sport or a performance art.
I'm in Avon high-school marching band who won #1 in the country in 2023, and if you don't know the director of carolina Crown is the director of my band, and because of that, we have 9am to 9pm practices. We have extremely long days in negative degree weather and in over 100° weather. The season starts may-july depending on band all the way to October-November with 3-4 practices a week.
as a school drummer, that performed marching songs, its a sport since if its hard to sit around playing for 10 minutes, imagine doing it for much longer and walking like a drill team
Oh yeah, marching band is definitely a sport. 4-year alumni of the Centerville Jazz Band high school marching band out of Centerville, Ohio, from 2015 to 2018. Best four years of my life.
I have literally participated in so many sports: soccer, softball, ski racing, track and field, cross country and now crossfit. Marching DCI in the Crossmen colorguard was by far the hardest thing I've physically ever done.
Now THIS is top tier content!!! I'm currently a top performing member of an INSANE (by a national standard) 6A Texas High School band and marching program, and the idea that someone could call what we do non competitive is adorable. In a single season I did things some of my 'sports' friends couldn't dream of, and I loved every second.
@CouchPotato524 @drewhenry-gu5hy Nope, Wylie East lol. ok I said insane at a national level, like compared to bands in every state. We're definitely not at the level of Hebron or Vandy, not the top of the top, but we're still excellent
6:58 bro 😭 I will never regret choosing the flute, but there are days I think like dang, if I chose to play a trumpet, I probably would’ve been a really good player rn since I practice a lot AND I would actually have a chance dci.
It’s never too late to learn a new instrument! I’ve been a bassist and a celloist for about 3 years now, and for marching band I switched to percussion and now I’m playing on the snare line as a sophomore And you already got experience in learning flute and the discipline to practice so it’s possible u can learn trumpet too!
@@diam.ond.that’s so sweet thanks! The really good thing is that my sister has a trumpet that we bought but she doesn’t play it that much so maybe i’ll just learn to teach it myself or something when I have the time one day
Just because you didn't start on trumpet doesn't mean you couldnt be a trumpet player in dci, most open class corps like 7th regiment or spartans usually have players who come from other instruments and pick them up and learn them at the audition camps, and, if they're up to par, they get in
6:26 have you participated in dci before? I have and I can assure you that no one but the staff get paid. The performers have to pay to be there. I paid $4,800 in 2022 to march that year and then $4,700 in 2023. Other than that false information at the end, good video. I agree with everything else. Editing to add this: we literally ran suicides in dci. We stretch at the beginning of the day, did planks pushups and squats, and more general physical conditioning. Marching band is definitely a sport.
Im on my high school drumline and i play bass 5 keep in mind we are the only school within a 100 mile radius that uses a bass 5 32" drumhead im not joking it weighed in at 38.5 lbs and I consider myself to be in really good shape but only because i have to carry that thing for 8 hours a day (excluding sundays)
My band camp was 12 hours a day for 5 days, and the week before that, it was 8 hours for 5 days. Now that school started we have practice after school for 2 hours, and when I tell you those 2 hours feel like 5, I'm not kidding. When people say marching band isnt a sport it makes me so mad, I've talked to the football players and their practices werent even close to the same amount of time ours were.
honestly, the only reason this is an argument in the first place is because of the "band kid" stigma, and the fact that most HS marching bands arent nearly as big or developed as BOA bands, or their sports teams im 100% sure if the band kid weirdo geek stigma did not exist, then marching band(or DCI if they advertised better) would be far more widely considered to be a sport
I should just make this clear now so no one gets the wrong idea. If you are a marching member in a drum corps, you do not get paid a single penny. You have to pay to march and understandably so considering the amount of travel and logistical stuff. Every drum corps that competes in dci is a non profit so paying the members is practically impossible. The only way to get paid in the activity is as a designer or educator. And the pay isn’t the best. Most people do it just for the love of the activity which is very much dying due to how expensive everything is nowadays. Last year scv had to take the summer off of touring bc of crippling financial debt and the cadets just recently folded bc they kept getting hit with lawsuits over stuff that happened 20+ years ago. While marching band and drum corps is a sport, we do not get treated like players in the mlb, nfl or any other major sports league. There’s just not enough money to go around like that
Unfortunately that was misinformation...you don't get paid to march in DCI. If you win scholarships, sure, but the vast majority of us have to pay many thousands of dollars to participate every season
I’m a highschool marcher for sousaphone (switched from bass clarinet), and we had a previous student and marching band volunteer March in the Carolina crown this past season as a baritone.
Yes finally also even when we aren’t preforming on the field we are the hype in the stands without us it would be boring , also I’m a flute and in no way am I saying that it’s bad but even holding it perfectly straight for a long time gets tiring, not because of the weight of it obviously but the position you hold it, especially right in the mornings 😪
2:04 as someone who’s a bass drum in HS marching band, they’re heavy but you eventually get used to it. Hopefully moving on to marching snare next year 🙏
snare the most mid stay on bass its more worth it. if you gotta switch move to quads but playing bass 2 is arguably more fun than the rest of the drumline
@@LorenzoMorales2002bass 2 is a vibe and a half. and, it’s actually a challenge so please stay, since it’s hard to find good talent at bass. literally just go watch bd or cavies lines. there is nothing like 9let buguhduhs and cold hand to hands trust (as long as you have decent players around you, if not then it’s not as fun but yk)
theres a part of our show where me and 5 other rifles literally take a lap around the drumline. its only 8 counts, and weve run it 20 times a day. i think its a sport.
I did a presentation several times in school about how much PT it took to perform at a high level in the marching arts, I wish you had made this video back then so I could have used it 😂
If Break Dancing is an Olympic sport, why can't marching band? Both use music. Both require a person's athletic ability. If they want to open to a broader audience (which is the entire reason the breaking event exists) they should add marching band.
No because I have a Symphonic Band but every year we March in our Halloween and Homecoming parade, and let me tell you IT. IS. LETHALLLL. Especially because we don't practice that what so ever, so we were out of BREATHE. Shit we couldn't even do standing on the field for our pep rally because all the clarint music flew away. Literally the most embrassing shit we do😭
The downside to considering marching band a "sport" is that band kids have to get the same athletic clearance that all athletic kids need. Band is typically an activity that invites the kids with asthma/allergies/disabilities/etc. Since it's a "sport" in our district, we've had to reject kids from Band because they couldn't get athletic clearance (even kids in the pit section).
My high school marching band (last one in all of Canada haha) the way my director does shit is for the first 2-3 months it’s about that marching basics grind. All we do for 3 hrs every Wednesday and for 7 hrs one Saturday a month for 2-3 months is just basics. They will get us to go across our gym floor having instructors at certain points looking at our legs, feet, posture, and everything else and if one single person is ever so slightly off then they send that group to restart. The goal is to make it across the gym floor with perfect posture, straight legs, and your toes up, without any mistakes. One we start drill we do chunks and try to make it look as good as possible then we add music and only until everything is decent do we move on to another chunk.
SHOUTOUT TO ALL THE TUBAS🙏🙏( I’m a mellophone player and I couldn’t think of anything more painful than holding a CONTRA TUBA in chop for like five minutes straight)
the Boston crusaders came to our stadium to practice and we got to watch them practice and ask them questions about stuff. My high school is one of the top in our region so when someone says its not a sport they gonna catch these hands you feel what im saying
As a eupho player, Preach. Holding that instrument up for prolonged periods of time in it it self should be considered a sport. Even though we had band camp before hand, the first week of school isn’t even over and everyone in my section already has back pain.
Yea. I’m also a euph player who just got done with band camp and a week of six hour practices. I finally fixed my posture but me and my rookies backs are still in pain.
@@spenceryoshikawa385 I am a rookie but even though my posture is good in my opinion, even when I’m not holding the instrument my upper back, shoulders, I and neck are painting me. Any tips?
I believe part of it could be from posture and the other half from just how much stress the horn puts on your shoulders and upper arms. I had to use a lighter horn my rookie year because I couldn’t handle some of the weight. There was just too much stress on there. Eventually I moved up to a larger horn but developed really bad back posture. I’m a sophomore know and finally have good posture lol.
My advice is to try and find a way to check if your back is perfectly straight whether it be a mirror or another person. If it’s not. Just practice the feeling of staying in a “straight back posture”. I would then try and maintain it on the move.
If it’s not posture then it could just be how heavy the horn is. You will build strength over the season. Fundamentals is a great way for building strength
I will agree because at my school our band camp is about 12 hours a day. Also my band program is better than our football most of the people leave the game after our halftime show.
idk where youre from but in texas UIL marching band is ultra competitive where all the football games are entirely considered practice for our saturday competitions where state is the main goal. its big shit
yo im in my schools band, sometimes our section leaders make us run suicides. our section (tuba) is chill abt that, but you'd get laps for literally anything possible.
IM IN THE highschool MARCHING BAND, I never thought of it as a sport though- But now that I think about I march and play 8 hours during band camp in marching band so I guess I get the idea of it being a “sport” Also my legs hurt and I be exhausted at the end of the day. SO I FEEL YOU FR FR☠️😂
I’ve seen videos with people saying that marching band isn’t a sport because it uses judges but will then say gymnastics are a sport Edit: I typed this before he explained the exact reason I just said
It is a sport because it should be treated as such by marchers, as a Football player and Track Athlete who marches with the band I have to condition and nurture myself the same way I would for any other sport that requires bodily exertion, not to mention preparation for it such as training camps and practices being of the same nature
As someone who was in marching band for years I can confidently say it is not a sport because any event that uses judges are not sports. Competitive Marching band is an event that is determined by judges. This puts marching band on the save level as figure skating of any gymnastics event
Hi, I'm a professional marching performer :) I, as I usually do, over analyzed this and had some thoughts: 1. I played flute/piccolo(the small, annoying version of a flute that was shown in the video) in my high school marching band. Even holding that at attention for a long time makes your arms HURT. 2. Don't get me started on the color guard. We're out there yeeting flags, rifles, and sabers in the air, which takes a ridiculous amount of muscle. 3. There are high school marching competitions nearly every weekend between mid-September and mid-November(or at least that's how it is where I'm from), and I would highly suggest going to one and seeing what it's all about. 4. There is a lot of technique involved with marching band. Of course, you have the music technique(dynamics, articulation, etc.), but there's also a technique to how a performer marches. Style can vary depending on the program/section, but every member of the ensemble has to march in a certain way so that everyone looks clean on the field. Some things that are consistent throughout the different styles are shoulder/instrument orientation, how and when your feet hit the ground, engaging your core(especially with wind instruments) so that you don't hear the impact of your feet in the sound, and how you hold the instrument so that the sound goes to the correct place. Most groups spend a lot of time, even on show days, practicing and perfecting their technique so that they look clean. 5. I freaking love DCI groups. Some shows that I would suggest(that you should be able to find on RUclips) are Mandarins 2024, Bluecoats 2014, 2022 & 2023, Troopers 2024, Battalion 2024, Boston Crusaders 2024, and Phantom Regiment 2008. I'm sure any other DCI obsessed person could also suggest some good shows. 6. Unfortunately, you won't get paid to perform in a DCI ensemble(outside of scholarships, if anyone knows of any that actually pay their performers, hit me UP). In fact, you pay to be a part of the group. Like, you pay a LOT. Just my fees to be a member of the group I was in were $4200, and that didn't include laundry, some meals, anything that I had to bring with me on tour, shoes, gloves, audition camps, and my flight home from Indianapolis at the end of the summer. I would estimate that I spent about 5 grand on my season, and that's pretty cheap.(don't get me wrong, it was well worth every dollar, and I'm trying to save up enough money to do it again, but GEEZ) I know of at least one group whose fees(just to be a part of the group) were 6 grand. 7. There were quite a few people(including me) whose main instrument is a woodwind instrument. I know at least one of our drum majors(conductors), some of our guard people and some of our brass all main on a woodwind instrument and switched over to be able to come and do this. 8. Even if you don't count suicides or having to run back to set, you're running all over that field the entire show. I had a part of my show where I had to go over 15 yards while doing my choreography(for those of you who know what this means, I had a 6.5 to 5 step size). Something that wasn't brought up in the video(or maybe it was and I just missed it) that I also wanted to mention: 9. Marching band(especially drum corps) is hard on your body. When I marched DCI this year, I went through a whole roll of KT tape in like, 3 weeks because my body wasn't prepared for what the activity demanded. (That being said, if you are marching, especially for DCI, PLEASE do physical preparation like workouts before the season starts) Don't you try to tell me that marching band doesn't require physical exertion. In conclusion, yes, marching band does meet the definition used by most major reputable dictionaries to define a sport. Sources: people who ACTUALLY DO THE FREAKING THING
Just so you know, you can’t really get money from being in dci, unless you are a teacher, which wouldn’t count. But, dci does take the competitive to the extreme with a point system and millions of fans
Be careful...if you get it recognized as a sport it "could" be taken over by the athletic department department...and then you're at their whim. My band is fighting that issue just because the athletic department bought us polo shirts, so now they are "hinting" that they want us to play for football, soccer (boys and girls: fall sport), volleyball (girls in the fall, boys in the spring), boys and girls basketball (we already do 7 games for each team), and baseball and softball (spring)... When I had a competitive marching band, I called it an artistic activity with an athletic component.
Just got back from marching practice and this was the first thing I saw Waxahachie high school in Texas Check us out we go to state finals every year Watch state finals from last year the show is called. 1849
My band camp was 12 hours a day, 5 days a week in Florida! When my dad said marching band wasn’t a physical activity, I almost threw my contra at him
Ayyyyyy fellow contra!! About to go to fall cleaning camp for 7 hours in the ninety degree weather! Which is really hot for my state at this time of year lol. If your marching this year, good luck lol
tarpon springs hs?
@@isaacjordan9418 I wish, but lake minneola hs. We do compete at tarpon every year
@@thatboguspade good luck
Same! And band camp pays off. My band got grand champions last season.
DCI should absolutely be considered a sport.
Sad you didn’t mention Phantom Regiment, but it is what it is.
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Love from the Regiment Mello line❤️🖤
This activity is 100% a sport..
@@Ovunixgood luck this weekend!!
@@mxtty5633 thank you!
@@Ovunix PLEASE beat Crown this weekend. My friends and I have been rooting for Regiment all season, and watching yall at Denton was a highlight of my summer. We believe in Phantom Regiment❤ SUTA
DCI member here. No member is getting paid to march. There are some corps that award a handful of members with a scholarship but they are not paying them
Yeah, it's crazy the amount of times I've been asked, "Oh, how much do you get paid?"...
We don't. 🥲🥲
Saying marching band is not a sport is like saying candy is not food.
Or like bugs aren’t animals
Or like RUclips isn’t an app
@@FanMan19000or like youtube isn't a social media
EXACTLY
I feel like all of these aren’t the best example. It be like saying a loaf of bread isn’t made of grain. It’s EXTREMELY competitive, extremely hard, and uh, ya know, a lot more mentally taxing/engaging than any other sport I’ve ever heard of
Most people don't consider marching band a sport because the general public only sees the side of marching band that consists of playing during halftime for football games, which obviously isn't a sport. There are a lot of people who don't know just how big the competition side of marching band is. Marching band at the high school and dci levels should absolutely be considered a sport. College level is a bit more murky, since football halftime shows are the main focus of most college marching bands, but even then, some college bands do participate in competitions with other bands.
Whether or not you consider marching band a sport, it would be foolish to undermine the amount of physical and mental work that goes into the activity. In truth, marching band is one of the most complex activities that a human being can do, requiring incredible amounts of focus and control in the lower body, upper body, lungs, and brain.
Even for bands that don’t do competitions (like my own) there is definitely still a competitive spirit seeing how well the other band at halftime stacks up to your own and vice versa.
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Holy yap
yeah id say running 100 feet in 8 counts with contra is a sport
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Casually marches a 1 to 5
its not a sport dude
@@jordanplange5288 haters
Contras already make it a sport, running 100ft in 7 8 counts with good form makes it a SPORT.
Ah yes, thank you my fellow passionate sports player/musician. I am a mellophone player and this made my day I have to explain this so many times to people...
OMG I PLAY MELLOPHONE AS WELL
What’s up my fellow mellophone players 🥶
The brass being heavy is so real. I'm just a clarinet and even that gets heavy, I can't imagine being a tuba...
I’m a trumpet, and it’s just tiring holding an instrument for 6-7 minutes in general.
As a contra player, I can confirm- at the end of our show I'm gassed 😅😅😅
2:02 as a piccolo player, I always feel so bad for people who have carry instruments like a bari sax or quad in the heat 😭
Dw you get used to it (I’m lying to myself. Quads are heavy)
@@echo3568 Hello quad brother
@@iLikePlanes16 good evening quad brother
Do you mean bari?
I know Bari saxes and baritones neck or arms be suffering
You see, my band actually DID run suicides. Not every day, but about once a week. And one of the Trumpets my senior year actually injured himself by not being able to stop before he hit a brick wall
Suicides is crazy i havent ran suicides since my 6th grade basketball team 🙏🏾
Ur personality just makes any vid worth it
Drum corps member here! Whilst I was in Open Class in past season, we don’t get paid to march in any corps. (At least not of what I’m aware of lol.) But the thousands of dollars we pay to march for a summer is worth every penny. If you ever wanna march, there are corps out there willing to work with you for payment plans! I’d definitely recommend virtual auditions for saving some money!
And yes, Marching Band is a sport, sue me.
2 questions, which corp and instrument, cause I marched Raiders as a trumpet this year.
@@braydinwigley9641
I marched with The Battalion! I also played trumpet.
Hi Sleeper :)
I marched flute for a while before switching to Colorguard. It is absolutely a sport and I’m tired of being denied the glory of being called an athlete. If I can run and dance around a football field for 10 minutes while shouting counts and spinning/tossing a 6 foot flag, I can do literally anything.
Calling performance arts like Gymnastics, Figure Skating, or Marching Band a sport is not enough. We need a new word
Yup
They're called performing arts..
@@devoffline I think competitive performance arts is a great thing to call them, but people get mad when you then say it's not a sport 🤷♂️
@@gabrieljohnson2645 i feel like saying "marching band is a sport" is an overstatement. not all marching bands compete. i think there seems to be a very blurry line of what is a sport and what isn't and competitive marching bands are kinda in that gray area. this goes with the physical aspect of sports too. not all bands are as active as others. dci corps and even some highschool/college bands have crazy drill which requires a LOT of physical work. but then you have these small bands that have easy to moderate drill. sure people get mad when you say marching band isn't a sport. I personally don't think you can say it's one or the other, especially when there are so many types of marching bands.
sorry for the lengthy comment lol, but I do agree with the name competitive performance art. i think people don't like marching band being called not a sport because it makes them feel like all their hard work is being downplayed. but it doesn't mean you can't make it it's own thing.
@@devoffline i've done Big 10 and Big 10 style bands, taught competitive highschools and marched world champion winning drum corps, as well as being a world record holding powerlifter and state champion swimmer so I definitely get that. Everything has its own set of physical demands. a lot of sports aren't physical in the same way or physically demanding at all. People on both side get too hung up on the physicality. I think it comes down to objective scores vs subjective scores whether to call or a sport or a performance art.
As a tenor player, I can 110% confirm that marching band is a sport😭😭😭
I'm in Avon high-school marching band who won #1 in the country in 2023, and if you don't know the director of carolina Crown is the director of my band, and because of that, we have 9am to 9pm practices. We have extremely long days in negative degree weather and in over 100° weather. The season starts may-july depending on band all the way to October-November with 3-4 practices a week.
I love Avon. From Iowa.
as a school drummer, that performed marching songs, its a sport since if its hard to sit around playing for 10 minutes, imagine doing it for much longer and walking like a drill team
Oh yeah, marching band is definitely a sport. 4-year alumni of the Centerville Jazz Band high school marching band out of Centerville, Ohio, from 2015 to 2018. Best four years of my life.
I have literally participated in so many sports: soccer, softball, ski racing, track and field, cross country and now crossfit. Marching DCI in the Crossmen colorguard was by far the hardest thing I've physically ever done.
As a quint player I appreciate this 😭 the amount of stress I’ve had learning my music and marching at band camp must be really unhealthy for me 😭
Im in front ensemble / Pit, so Instead of marching i just sit there and bake in the sun 👍
Same brother
Now THIS is top tier content!!! I'm currently a top performing member of an INSANE (by a national standard) 6A Texas High School band and marching program, and the idea that someone could call what we do non competitive is adorable. In a single season I did things some of my 'sports' friends couldn't dream of, and I loved every second.
Vandegrift? (Did I guess corectly?)
Hebron?
Exactly. The area competitions in Texas get so competitive.
Those were my first two guesses also
@CouchPotato524 @drewhenry-gu5hy Nope, Wylie East lol. ok I said insane at a national level, like compared to bands in every state. We're definitely not at the level of Hebron or Vandy, not the top of the top, but we're still excellent
6:58 bro 😭 I will never regret choosing the flute, but there are days I think like dang, if I chose to play a trumpet, I probably would’ve been a really good player rn since I practice a lot AND I would actually have a chance dci.
It’s never too late to learn a new instrument! I’ve been a bassist and a celloist for about 3 years now, and for marching band I switched to percussion and now I’m playing on the snare line as a sophomore
And you already got experience in learning flute and the discipline to practice so it’s possible u can learn trumpet too!
@@diam.ond.that’s so sweet thanks! The really good thing is that my sister has a trumpet that we bought but she doesn’t play it that much so maybe i’ll just learn to teach it myself or something when I have the time one day
@@disneyfun8208 Yeah that’s a good idea 👍
Just because you didn't start on trumpet doesn't mean you couldnt be a trumpet player in dci, most open class corps like 7th regiment or spartans usually have players who come from other instruments and pick them up and learn them at the audition camps, and, if they're up to par, they get in
@@Creesper69 that’s honestly good to know
6:26 have you participated in dci before? I have and I can assure you that no one but the staff get paid. The performers have to pay to be there. I paid $4,800 in 2022 to march that year and then $4,700 in 2023. Other than that false information at the end, good video. I agree with everything else.
Editing to add this: we literally ran suicides in dci. We stretch at the beginning of the day, did planks pushups and squats, and more general physical conditioning. Marching band is definitely a sport.
Im on my high school drumline and i play bass 5 keep in mind we are the only school within a 100 mile radius that uses a bass 5 32" drumhead im not joking it weighed in at 38.5 lbs and I consider myself to be in really good shape but only because i have to carry that thing for 8 hours a day (excluding sundays)
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, SOMEONE NEEDED TO SAY IT, AND YOUR PERFECT FOR IT
THANK YOU! IVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PPL TO UNDERSTAND THIS. Deadass it should be in the Olympics
As a tenor player (quads for some ppl). Running around in 100 degree heat for 8 hours while playing clean was an experience to say the least.
My band camp was 12 hours a day for 5 days, and the week before that, it was 8 hours for 5 days. Now that school started we have practice after school for 2 hours, and when I tell you those 2 hours feel like 5, I'm not kidding. When people say marching band isnt a sport it makes me so mad, I've talked to the football players and their practices werent even close to the same amount of time ours were.
honestly, the only reason this is an argument in the first place is because of the "band kid" stigma, and the fact that most HS marching bands arent nearly as big or developed as BOA bands, or their sports teams
im 100% sure if the band kid weirdo geek stigma did not exist, then marching band(or DCI if they advertised better) would be far more widely considered to be a sport
Agreed!
The stigma drives me fucking nuts.
I should just make this clear now so no one gets the wrong idea. If you are a marching member in a drum corps, you do not get paid a single penny. You have to pay to march and understandably so considering the amount of travel and logistical stuff. Every drum corps that competes in dci is a non profit so paying the members is practically impossible. The only way to get paid in the activity is as a designer or educator. And the pay isn’t the best. Most people do it just for the love of the activity which is very much dying due to how expensive everything is nowadays. Last year scv had to take the summer off of touring bc of crippling financial debt and the cadets just recently folded bc they kept getting hit with lawsuits over stuff that happened 20+ years ago. While marching band and drum corps is a sport, we do not get treated like players in the mlb, nfl or any other major sports league. There’s just not enough money to go around like that
My band camp is 13 hours a day every day for 3 weeks in the Texas heat of 110 degrees
Thank you so much for this, I totally agree with everything you said. ( I loved the you can get paid part )
Unfortunately that was misinformation...you don't get paid to march in DCI. If you win scholarships, sure, but the vast majority of us have to pay many thousands of dollars to participate every season
@@davidcriscuolo4347 I meant your face in the screen was funny
I do say, sprinting from one 30 to the other 30 yard line directly to the left or right in 16 counts with a quint is physical activity
I’m a highschool marcher for sousaphone (switched from bass clarinet), and we had a previous student and marching band volunteer March in the Carolina crown this past season as a baritone.
Yes finally also even when we aren’t preforming on the field we are the hype in the stands without us it would be boring , also I’m a flute and in no way am I saying that it’s bad but even holding it perfectly straight for a long time gets tiring, not because of the weight of it obviously but the position you hold it, especially right in the mornings 😪
2:04 as someone who’s a bass drum in HS marching band, they’re heavy but you eventually get used to it. Hopefully moving on to marching snare next year 🙏
bro i play quads and like i kind of want to move to snare next year but then im like, nahhh quads is more fun and definitly not worth it lol
snare the most mid stay on bass its more worth it. if you gotta switch move to quads but playing bass 2 is arguably more fun than the rest of the drumline
@cloudy4306 I’m a bass 2 right now and honestly you kinda right about that
@@LorenzoMorales2002bass 2 is a vibe and a half. and, it’s actually a challenge so please stay, since it’s hard to find good talent at bass. literally just go watch bd or cavies lines. there is nothing like 9let buguhduhs and cold hand to hands trust (as long as you have decent players around you, if not then it’s not as fun but yk)
my director put a freshman on tenors
Sending this to my parents who say marching band isnt a sport🙏🙏
I didn't go to M-Band camp so I had to learn that show in a week
(I play the tuba)
3:45 As a Carmel marcher, the rivalry between us and Avon is crazy competitive 😭
theres a part of our show where me and 5 other rifles literally take a lap around the drumline. its only 8 counts, and weve run it 20 times a day. i think its a sport.
I did a presentation several times in school about how much PT it took to perform at a high level in the marching arts, I wish you had made this video back then so I could have used it 😂
If Break Dancing is an Olympic sport, why can't marching band? Both use music. Both require a person's athletic ability. If they want to open to a broader audience (which is the entire reason the breaking event exists) they should add marching band.
9 hour band camp is short💀, mine goes from 8am-9pm
No because I have a Symphonic Band but every year we March in our Halloween and Homecoming parade, and let me tell you IT. IS. LETHALLLL. Especially because we don't practice that what so ever, so we were out of BREATHE. Shit we couldn't even do standing on the field for our pep rally because all the clarint music flew away. Literally the most embrassing shit we do😭
Dont forget about DCI corps rehearsals. In the summer all day
My band camp is 14 hours a day for a week😭
The downside to considering marching band a "sport" is that band kids have to get the same athletic clearance that all athletic kids need. Band is typically an activity that invites the kids with asthma/allergies/disabilities/etc. Since it's a "sport" in our district, we've had to reject kids from Band because they couldn't get athletic clearance (even kids in the pit section).
My high school marching band (last one in all of Canada haha) the way my director does shit is for the first 2-3 months it’s about that marching basics grind. All we do for 3 hrs every Wednesday and for 7 hrs one Saturday a month for 2-3 months is just basics. They will get us to go across our gym floor having instructors at certain points looking at our legs, feet, posture, and everything else and if one single person is ever so slightly off then they send that group to restart. The goal is to make it across the gym floor with perfect posture, straight legs, and your toes up, without any mistakes. One we start drill we do chunks and try to make it look as good as possible then we add music and only until everything is decent do we move on to another chunk.
The timing of this video is kind of perfect one week before band camp
Matching Band do be challenging sometimes.
I march corps style but I love show style because you guys get so damn hype
my band was on the football Feld this summer of over 140 hours
As a kid in band (a sousaphone/trombone player) I never marching band should be considered a sport but this video changed my mind ngl
SHOUTOUT TO ALL THE TUBAS🙏🙏( I’m a mellophone player and I couldn’t think of anything more painful than holding a CONTRA TUBA in chop for like five minutes straight)
@@BrassBassOfficial_ yoooo tuba here and thank you.
Shoutout to all the mellos for being cool
the way i just joined the marching band seeing this
i feel you man i just came back from our first day for band camp
I marched with Cincinnati tradition drum Corps at dci this summer it ain’t for the faint of heart
Marching band is more than a sport. It requires more activity then most sports. That’s why it’s jst better 🔥💪
We literally have more hours a week working than the sports do at my hs
yoooooo great video bro your a cool youtuber im looking forward to your other content coming up!!
the Boston crusaders came to our stadium to practice and we got to watch them practice and ask them questions about stuff. My high school is one of the top in our region so when someone says its not a sport they gonna catch these hands you feel what im saying
It pisses me off when my friends say marching band isn’t a sport.
this needs more views
Finally someone admits and agrees with the truth
YES THANK GOD
As a eupho player, Preach. Holding that instrument up for prolonged periods of time in it it self should be considered a sport. Even though we had band camp before hand, the first week of school isn’t even over and everyone in my section already has back pain.
Yea. I’m also a euph player who just got done with band camp and a week of six hour practices. I finally fixed my posture but me and my rookies backs are still in pain.
@@spenceryoshikawa385 I am a rookie but even though my posture is good in my opinion, even when I’m not holding the instrument my upper back, shoulders, I and neck are painting me. Any tips?
I believe part of it could be from posture and the other half from just how much stress the horn puts on your shoulders and upper arms. I had to use a lighter horn my rookie year because I couldn’t handle some of the weight. There was just too much stress on there. Eventually I moved up to a larger horn but developed really bad back posture. I’m a sophomore know and finally have good posture lol.
My advice is to try and find a way to check if your back is perfectly straight whether it be a mirror or another person. If it’s not. Just practice the feeling of staying in a “straight back posture”. I would then try and maintain it on the move.
If it’s not posture then it could just be how heavy the horn is. You will build strength over the season. Fundamentals is a great way for building strength
Off topic, I wish my school did 90° steps. We do around 45 and even thought we're a high school, we would be doing great if we were more strict.
I will agree because at my school our band camp is about 12 hours a day. Also my band program is better than our football most of the people leave the game after our halftime show.
I play quads. People who say it's not a sport couldn't even hold quads for a 10 hour rehearsal let alone march AND play a 10 minute show
idk where youre from but in texas UIL marching band is ultra competitive where all the football games are entirely considered practice for our saturday competitions where state is the main goal. its big shit
yo im in my schools band, sometimes our section leaders make us run suicides. our section (tuba) is chill abt that, but you'd get laps for literally anything possible.
IF MARCHING BAND ISN’T A SPORT THEN WHY DO I GET AN ATHLETIC CREDIT FOR IT
I played football and wrestled. I can say for a fact, marching band requires just as much athleticism as any sport
As an alto and tenor saxophonist, I agree with you. Marching band is a sport. I live in fucking Louisiana so I would know, because it’s h o t
idc what you say its not a sport
Yes it is. And don’t like your own comments
why not
How about 12 hour days
as a baritone saxophone player i count
IM IN THE highschool MARCHING BAND, I never thought of it as a sport though-
But now that I think about I march and play 8 hours during band camp in marching band so I guess I get the idea of it being a “sport”
Also my legs hurt and I be exhausted at the end of the day.
SO I FEEL YOU FR FR☠️😂
I’ve seen videos with people saying that marching band isn’t a sport because it uses judges but will then say gymnastics are a sport
Edit: I typed this before he explained the exact reason I just said
We used to run suicides until someone passed out and broke their leg 😭 now we run around the parking lot
It is a sport because it should be treated as such by marchers, as a Football player and Track Athlete who marches with the band I have to condition and nurture myself the same way I would for any other sport that requires bodily exertion, not to mention preparation for it such as training camps and practices being of the same nature
Tenor (drum) player here. I can attest that tenors are very hard to carry.
As someone who was in marching band for years I can confidently say it is not a sport because any event that uses judges are not sports. Competitive Marching band is an event that is determined by judges. This puts marching band on the save level as figure skating of any gymnastics event
Then why is figure skating and gymnastics considered part of the Olympics? You know, that
multinational SPORTS competition?
Hi, I'm a professional marching performer :) I, as I usually do, over analyzed this and had some thoughts:
1. I played flute/piccolo(the small, annoying version of a flute that was shown in the video) in my high school marching band. Even holding that at attention for a long time makes your arms HURT.
2. Don't get me started on the color guard. We're out there yeeting flags, rifles, and sabers in the air, which takes a ridiculous amount of muscle.
3. There are high school marching competitions nearly every weekend between mid-September and mid-November(or at least that's how it is where I'm from), and I would highly suggest going to one and seeing what it's all about.
4. There is a lot of technique involved with marching band. Of course, you have the music technique(dynamics, articulation, etc.), but there's also a technique to how a performer marches. Style can vary depending on the program/section, but every member of the ensemble has to march in a certain way so that everyone looks clean on the field. Some things that are consistent throughout the different styles are shoulder/instrument orientation, how and when your feet hit the ground, engaging your core(especially with wind instruments) so that you don't hear the impact of your feet in the sound, and how you hold the instrument so that the sound goes to the correct place. Most groups spend a lot of time, even on show days, practicing and perfecting their technique so that they look clean.
5. I freaking love DCI groups. Some shows that I would suggest(that you should be able to find on RUclips) are Mandarins 2024, Bluecoats 2014, 2022 & 2023, Troopers 2024, Battalion 2024, Boston Crusaders 2024, and Phantom Regiment 2008. I'm sure any other DCI obsessed person could also suggest some good shows.
6. Unfortunately, you won't get paid to perform in a DCI ensemble(outside of scholarships, if anyone knows of any that actually pay their performers, hit me UP). In fact, you pay to be a part of the group. Like, you pay a LOT. Just my fees to be a member of the group I was in were $4200, and that didn't include laundry, some meals, anything that I had to bring with me on tour, shoes, gloves, audition camps, and my flight home from Indianapolis at the end of the summer. I would estimate that I spent about 5 grand on my season, and that's pretty cheap.(don't get me wrong, it was well worth every dollar, and I'm trying to save up enough money to do it again, but GEEZ) I know of at least one group whose fees(just to be a part of the group) were 6 grand.
7. There were quite a few people(including me) whose main instrument is a woodwind instrument. I know at least one of our drum majors(conductors), some of our guard people and some of our brass all main on a woodwind instrument and switched over to be able to come and do this.
8. Even if you don't count suicides or having to run back to set, you're running all over that field the entire show. I had a part of my show where I had to go over 15 yards while doing my choreography(for those of you who know what this means, I had a 6.5 to 5 step size).
Something that wasn't brought up in the video(or maybe it was and I just missed it) that I also wanted to mention:
9. Marching band(especially drum corps) is hard on your body. When I marched DCI this year, I went through a whole roll of KT tape in like, 3 weeks because my body wasn't prepared for what the activity demanded. (That being said, if you are marching, especially for DCI, PLEASE do physical preparation like workouts before the season starts) Don't you try to tell me that marching band doesn't require physical exertion.
In conclusion, yes, marching band does meet the definition used by most major reputable dictionaries to define a sport.
Sources: people who ACTUALLY DO THE FREAKING THING
I march tenors (quints) and they are NOT light. I overheard the trombones complaining about how "drumline has it easy" lmao
Just so you know, you can’t really get money from being in dci, unless you are a teacher, which wouldn’t count. But, dci does take the competitive to the extreme with a point system and millions of fans
6:11 lol that guy is my band director
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS THE WHOLE TIME !!!
Be careful...if you get it recognized as a sport it "could" be taken over by the athletic department department...and then you're at their whim. My band is fighting that issue just because the athletic department bought us polo shirts, so now they are "hinting" that they want us to play for football, soccer (boys and girls: fall sport), volleyball (girls in the fall, boys in the spring), boys and girls basketball (we already do 7 games for each team), and baseball and softball (spring)... When I had a competitive marching band, I called it an artistic activity with an athletic component.
Damn right it’s a sport,
Just got back from marching practice and this was the first thing I saw
Waxahachie high school in Texas
Check us out we go to state finals every year
Watch state finals from last year the show is called. 1849
People who say marching band isn’t hard doesn’t know what they’re talking about bro 😭
bro i just finished band camp im soo sun burn 😭😭
the color guard can and will fight that person
My band camp was 13 hours in high school and 12 hours in college marching Sousa was a mistake 😅😅 a fun one but still a mistake 😂😂
RIP Cadets
In my band we literally run suicides for warm up
We may not “run” suicided. But marching suicides up and down the field because a baritone hit the wrong note definitely happens
straight fax
No way i’m running football field laps with a fucking sousaphone and sb gone tell me its not a sport 💀