How to Stay in Europe Longer than 90 Days! Avoid the 90/180 Rule | Schengen Visa

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @christopherfitzgerald774
    @christopherfitzgerald774 13 дней назад +9

    But your not "avoiding" the 90/180 day restriction. You are leaving to a non-Shengen country for 90 days then going back in to a Shengen country.

    • @Laura-y8n6d
      @Laura-y8n6d 13 дней назад +4

      Right! I was expecting a “loophole“ or something. Absolutely nothing new here! Sad to see they have gone the clickbait way to get views. I just unsubscribed.

    • @JayandSarah
      @JayandSarah 12 дней назад +2

      @@Laura-y8n6dwell of course there is no loophole, what did you expect?

  • @lisabeaumont
    @lisabeaumont 13 дней назад +4

    Thank you for this. This is one of your most useful videos (that I’ve seen) for me! I hadn’t realised Albania allows up to a year - I’ll have a look into that…

    • @thurianknight
      @thurianknight 12 дней назад +4

      Just in case you're not from the USA: the 1-year allowance is only for people with a United States passport, under special agreement between these countries. Albania's normal tourist visa for almost everyone else is 90 days.

    • @lisabeaumont
      @lisabeaumont 12 дней назад

      @@thurianknight that’s good to know - thank you - as I’m not American!

  • @mmilanovic
    @mmilanovic 10 дней назад +2

    Romania and Bulgaria just joined lol…funny stuff…

  • @knowbodysongwritinggroup
    @knowbodysongwritinggroup 13 дней назад +1

    thnx you 2 :) - The Artists liked this one

  • @BasicAmericanDadAbroad
    @BasicAmericanDadAbroad 13 дней назад +2

    Good stuff, useful info/tools, thanks! 🙌

  • @ajdrums8075
    @ajdrums8075 13 дней назад +1

    Thanks guys! ❤

  • @gdavid123ify
    @gdavid123ify 13 дней назад +2

    Good update....Thanks

  • @timdemetris9769
    @timdemetris9769 7 дней назад

    Excellent, thanks

  • @mickmac2223
    @mickmac2223 13 дней назад

    Really interesting - many thanks to you both!!

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 13 дней назад +2

    I'm not in your shoes as a Brit, but would have thought a much safer and less nerve wracking option is to have a tri-factor setting = to spend 60 days in each on average, then start a new 180-day cycle. What do you think?
    You could extend your EU stays to around 88 days and just over 3 months in the other two; that probably adds some years to life :)

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  13 дней назад +1

      You have to realize we’re not talking about EU. We are talking about Schengen, so there are 29 countries that have to share the same 90 days out of every 180 days. if you want to do a trifecta with one Schengen country and two non Schengen countries your plan could work. However, the typical problem is trying to live in Europe despite the Schengen time restrictions.

    • @soundslight7754
      @soundslight7754 13 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel I do, sorry for my slippage! :) As I understand it, the only way in Schengen other than 90/180 days is to become a resident/citizen of one of Schengen countries.
      I just watched your French residency with the Italian consultant - it's brilliant because $30-40k would buy you a liveable property in some places in France (not in Paris, Saint-Tropez etc of course) then you're almost there with his magic! Great news, I'm very happy for you

    • @nobreshit.9694
      @nobreshit.9694 12 дней назад

      You're in worse shoes because you had all the rights, but some corrupt liars took them away from you...

  • @boink800
    @boink800 11 дней назад +2

    In the Schengen Zone there is one exception for US citizens (and only US citizens): Poland. US citizens are allowed a 90 day stay in Poland and they can return for another 90 days (you need to go outside the Schengen Zone to get another 90 days). This is from a treaty between Poland and the US.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  11 дней назад

      Yes, we are completely aware of the bilateral agreement.
      We have chosen not to speak about it because there are some hurdles and we don’t want to misguide anyone.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 10 дней назад +1

      @@WarrenJulieTravel And one more (non-Schengen) country: Albania. Albania gives US Citizens (and only US citizens) a 365-day visa.

  • @LifewithAaronArnold
    @LifewithAaronArnold 11 дней назад

    Great Video Warren & Julie!

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 12 дней назад

    Nice coverage of the Schengen shuffle. I would really be interested in a video or a couple on driving throughout Europe. Since you have driven through so many EU countries it would be great to hear about interesting experiences with different types of roads, roundabouts, tolls, signage, parking etc.. between various countries for good or bad. Road conditions and any maintenance and accidents or close calls or parking damage. Very few slow travelers drive.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  12 дней назад

      @@zeitgeist888 we do speak about our car situations in videos as they are relevant.
      Here’s our car purchase and registration video How Americans Can Buy and Register a Car in Europe (Expats, Nomads, and Retired in Europe)
      ruclips.net/video/zpDRM9pSGLE/видео.html

  • @sailingshantaram2003
    @sailingshantaram2003 10 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the update. Your videos keep mentioning that you can stay in Albania for 1 year, but when I look it applies only to Americans. On review I have found you have a tendency to be " Amercentric" in your comments. Is it possible to be a little more exact in your future comments for those of us that are from Australia, New Zealand, Canada or other expat countries? I believe it would make your videos more inclusive. Thanks again for keeping the expats informed on travel issues!
    Cheers S

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  10 дней назад

      Yes, I need to do a better job when referring to Albania in videos like these. The policy is American specific.

  • @DebyColes
    @DebyColes 13 дней назад +4

    This was really useful, thank you. I was wondering why you choose Montenegro. Does it make things easier in some ways, like car registration that you mentioned? Or was it the climate? Language, medical etc? I like the idea of shuffling around Europe but worry about the winters. I'm not a fan of the cold and it looks both cold and wet in that region over the winter months. Is winter a bit milder in Albania given that its a little further south? With our European motorhoming dreams shattered by Brexit, I'm starting to think about something like this as an alternative without setting up a residency somewhere. So which of your videos do you recommend I start with please? And thanks again for all the info. p.s. I am British but non-resident for 20 years so can only spend about 40 days a year back in the UK.

  • @matney12
    @matney12 13 дней назад +5

    Hi, Did you ever consider Albania ? If so I would love to hear your reasons for choosing Montenegro. Looking to do the same things to avoid taxes.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  8 дней назад

      @@matney12 if you have not followed us from the beginning, you may not understand why we selected Montenegro. we do love our little country Montenegro and we have friends here as well. We bought our first home in Montenegro in 2016 while we were still working in America. At that time you could have residency and travel six months out of the year with homeownership, those rules changed however in 2019 before we retired in 2020. We were never even looking at Albania at that time, our first visit to Albania was in 2018 to the city of Duress which we do not recommend for Expats, it definitely negatively impacted our desire to explore the country further. However, we heard from many people about how much they liked Sarande and and Tirana so we decided to give the country another look. we did very much enjoy our stay and Sarande, we cannot speak with knowledge about Tirana from what we understand, there are some good places and not so good places in the city. We also saw some prom when we were passing through Vlore.
      Having had eight years of experience with Montenegro we feel very comfortable at home with the country. Everyone however, should make their own decisions and check out locations that are going to be best suited for them.

  • @oliverdietz2495
    @oliverdietz2495 13 дней назад

    You taught me the Schengen shuffle. I hope we meet some time. Sorry, can't find your car in Bulgaria video. Thanks.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  12 дней назад

      @@oliverdietz2495 here’s the first video we did to buy and register our vehicle and the process
      How Americans Can Buy and Register a Car in Europe (Expats, Nomads, and Retired in Europe)
      ruclips.net/video/zpDRM9pSGLE/видео.html

  • @SlowTravelNomads
    @SlowTravelNomads 9 дней назад

    I would say, instead of looking to circumnavigate the rules, just go spend time in nearby non-schengen countries.
    Countries like Albania, Macedonia, and Serbia are amazing locations to travel. And bonus, they're WAY better on the costs, especially if you slow travel and budget travel them like my wife and I did from May-August this year.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  9 дней назад +1

      Not sure if you were directing the comment to us or someone else who commented. Yep, that’s what we’ve done for four years, what we teach in the video.

    • @SlowTravelNomads
      @SlowTravelNomads 8 дней назад +1

      @@WarrenJulieTravel It was intended for someone else. We're happy to have others out there talking up all the good things about the Balkans.

  • @olgamisu
    @olgamisu 13 дней назад +2

    I believe you get 30 days visa free if you fly into Belarus

    • @RFXZ67966
      @RFXZ67966 12 дней назад

      It's now land borders too until at least the end of the year

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  8 дней назад

      That’s correct

  • @sergpro7048
    @sergpro7048 13 дней назад +2

    Hello from Ukraine. Happy to have you visit us.

  • @andreamorris1789
    @andreamorris1789 13 дней назад +1

    If montenegro goes into EU 2028 say,would this allow their resudents/ citizens to move to any other EU country like is now within the 27 or so EU countries?

  • @rufusreloaded1043
    @rufusreloaded1043 10 дней назад

    But you dont need to stay out of the Schengen Zone for 90 days, you just have to avoid spending more than 90 days in the previous 180 days. You can return 89 days later or 49 or 29 days later if you wanted to.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  9 дней назад +1

      This is correct, however, when you do strange combinations, it becomes very difficult to track. Simplicity is best to avoid those accidental overstays, so we don’t provide doing it as a recommendation, however, if you’re tracking yourself efficiently do whaat you’re comfortable with.
      Since we drive, it often requires a long distance to get out of Schengen depending on where we are so we try to keep to a clean 90 day or less venture.

  • @lindadorman2869
    @lindadorman2869 13 дней назад +1

    Any ideas for those who don't want to move around as much...is it possible to rent an apartment in a low-cost country long-term and stay 89 days twice a year, and then do the same outside the Schengen zone? I'm looking for a solution in-between schlepping from one short-term rental to another or buying property. Splitting time between 2-3 countries while still feeling like I have a home base (and not having to get residency or become a tax resident) is my goal.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  13 дней назад +4

      There are a lot of possibilities to do this, many do Croatia and Montenegro, some Italy to Albania, Greece & Albania, Hungary & Serbia, and these are simple border and ferry combinations. You could easily select any single Schengen and pair it with a non Schengen and drive or fly to and from.

    • @anniesshenanigans3815
      @anniesshenanigans3815 13 дней назад +1

      @@WarrenJulieTravel yes since Albania lets you stay a year, it's the most logical choice to stay there if you want to focus on Italy or Greece. Which is what looks like a great option to me.

  • @nobreshit.9694
    @nobreshit.9694 12 дней назад +1

    You forgot to mention the Republic of Ireland, which is a non schengen EU country

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  12 дней назад

      @nobreshit.9694 we mention it, we explained that it has 90 days whereas the UK has six months. Go to the 10:00 mark

  • @Paul-cg1bn
    @Paul-cg1bn 12 дней назад

    You didn't mention Georgia. It's a beautiful country and be well worth a visit.

  • @Paul-cg1bn
    @Paul-cg1bn 12 дней назад

    Oops, you just mentioned Georgia!

  • @duncansmith7562
    @duncansmith7562 10 дней назад

    Keep in mind Andorra is not a Schengen country.
    With evidence that you have been in Andorra with accommodation in Andorra, you can count that in your Schengen shuffle adventure. Gibraltar too.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  9 дней назад

      We’ve looked into this option, I couldn’t get guidance from the Andorra government, in fact they wrote me to discourage it. This said maybe it’s possible, however there is a lot of record keeping and responsibility and convincing of the border guards to believe you. We have yet to meet anyone that has successfully managed doing the Schengen shuffle in this manner, keeping in mind the entry and exit count as the same day for both countries. If anyone has actually managed to do it we extend an interview invitation.

    • @duncansmith7562
      @duncansmith7562 8 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel I've not done it myself, but may well do it when my French residency expires. I know Andorra well and the border situation (I live in France. close to Andorra)
      The Andorra government wouldn't want to encourage this kind of thing, so not surprised you got no clear answer.
      But Andorra is NOT a Schengen country, so the law is 100% on the side of anyone spending 3 months in Andorra.
      The border guards stamp no one in or out. There is no convincing of French/Spanish/Andorran border guards of anything. It's an open border for immigration. All the checks at the border are for customs, to make sure anything bought in Andorra is for personal use.
      There might be a problem when exiting Schengen at a distant border, say, Finland, where they see no Schengen exit or entry stamp, and don't know where Andorra is, but that would be resolved when they look up Andorra and then see your 3 months airbnb booking for Andorra, and ATM dated bank slips/receipts as extra evidence of stay in Andorra.
      The same would apply for Gibraltar except, at the moment, passports are stamped on entering Schengen from Gibraltar. but a Gibraltar/Morocco combo would be an attractive 3 month option.
      I'll let you know how it goes if I do this (the Andorra thing)!

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  8 дней назад

      @@duncansmith7562 please let us know, correct I am not concerned about the Andorra to Spain or France migration from one country to another. It is when you actually try to leave the Schengen zone I expect you’ll have a good chance at encountering problems.

    • @duncansmith7562
      @duncansmith7562 8 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel If you google "Andorra Schengen Visa explained" you will see some good info on this.
      Foreigners working and resident in Andorra are in the same situation as foreigners staying in Andorra doing the Schengen shuffle, in that coming and going from Andorra to Spain or France is never a problem, but flying out of Schengen from an airport other than Barcelona or Toulouse finds immigration officers confused about how long such a person might have been in Schengen. It's as you said, documentation showing that Andorra is NOT a Schengen country, and evidence of having spent the time in Andorra you claim you have spent, should be enough.
      I'm guessing anyone who demands a French or Spanish entry/exit stamp could get one, but it's hard to take care of all that when you are stuck in a line of traffic that is just being waved through and no officer wants to say a word to you, let alone stamp anything!
      I'm sure Andorra is a viable option, AND gives you access during your 90 day stay to great places in France and Spain while you are technically out of Schengen!
      I'll let you know how this works when and if I try it!

  • @RFXZ67966
    @RFXZ67966 12 дней назад +1

    Sorry if youve already explained. Why dont you just get EU residency?

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  8 дней назад +1

      We have chosen not to do an EU residency for several reasons, but one of the biggest reasons is taxation.

  • @Wrong-Way-Round
    @Wrong-Way-Round 12 дней назад +1

    So, you are not "Avoiding the 90/180 day Schengen rules" you are keeping to keeping to them.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  12 дней назад +1

      From an American perspective, we are avoiding having to leave Europe. This is educating others on how to remain in Europe and avoid having to leave Europe, as unfortunately many believe they must.

  • @Colorado18
    @Colorado18 13 дней назад +2

    I heard US citizens are not allowed to enter Serbia from Kosovo.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  13 дней назад +1

      Yes, that’s a border you should avoid.

    • @JayandSarah
      @JayandSarah 12 дней назад

      You want to enter Serbia from Montenegro or Skopje. And Kosovo from Albania.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  12 дней назад +1

      @@JayandSarah we went into Kosovo through Albania, North Macedonia and Montenegro, without any issues. It’s mostly the Serbia border that is the only concern. Just best to avoid that border direction altogether.

    • @JayandSarah
      @JayandSarah 12 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel exactly.

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 13 дней назад +1

    I thought you're now Schengen citizens via Warren's Polish ancestry, no?

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  13 дней назад +3

      No, bureaucrats in Poland made it difficult. I did a final video on the residency process and have the citizenship packet ready but I have not submitted. The tax laws and bureaucracy has tempered my enthusiasm.

    • @soundslight7754
      @soundslight7754 13 дней назад +2

      @@WarrenJulieTravel Oh nooooo! I'm sorry. I hope it works out, maybe a pushy residency consultant can do the legwork and keep them on their toes while you're spending quality time in Serbia etc

    • @BobKnight-mm2ze
      @BobKnight-mm2ze 12 дней назад

      ​@@WarrenJulieTravel Haha, yeah the taxes throughout Europe REALLY make you step back and look at the big picture and build a plan. Having said that I HAD a plan, but I saw one of your videos recently (probably because I made myself a low tax France plan) and that led me to watching this video. My initial plan was/is just put in the time somewhere for a passport and have total free movement, with no time constraints.
      I have to say, because of THIS video, I'm really, really considering altering what I intended to do. And it might even be something you'd consider. Cyprus has a stay for 60 days for TAX residency, you just need to accumulate those days throughout the year. Very low rate, and you can get for SEVENTEEN years! So, if a person really is looking to do what you're doing (and I plan to do). It's a good tax base. And actually by NOT being Schengen, it's a great way to get your 60 tax days in while recharging your Schengen power.
      Anyway, you've literally done what I plan to do these last 3-4 years (minus all that driving!) and I thank you for triggering an alternative plan for myself. I'm hoping I can dump these 2 US properties in the next 8 weeks if the sales go through (no more houses, that's it for me) and should be able to hit all the Christmas markets this year.

  • @duncansmith7562
    @duncansmith7562 10 дней назад

    "rewarded with borderless travel"
    if only that were true!
    Germany recently re-instated border controls with all its neighbors, all countries did so through Covid, the France side of the border with Spain does checks within France, at the first autoroute toll booth, and so it goes on.

    • @Esemptius
      @Esemptius 10 дней назад

      A police van at the border with Germany is hardly "border controls".

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  6 дней назад +1

      We read about Germany. We were just there in late August and just barely missed the new process.

  • @mickmac2223
    @mickmac2223 13 дней назад

    Quick question, maybe I missed it on some of your other videos - just wondering how the polish citizenship was going?

    • @JayandSarah
      @JayandSarah 12 дней назад +1

      I think it was denied

  • @lucineiaaraujo6793
    @lucineiaaraujo6793 8 дней назад

    Hi guys. Very good your Chanell. Could you share if it is possible to be in the Schengen for example for 60 days, come back after 2 months and stay one month longer then get out and stay 1 month outside of the Schengen and then return to Schengen? Would it get in the relevant of 90/180 days? I met my boyfriend in the end ig it and I would like to get back to Greece and stay with him for a while.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  8 дней назад

      @@lucineiaaraujo6793 we really can’t talk to you in terms of months to be exact, we really need to be talking exact numbers of days. So potentially yes, and no to your question without actually knowing the dates. You just have to remember you can only be in the zone 90 days every 180, and the entry and exit day may be counted as one day for each of the countries.

  • @michael2685
    @michael2685 11 дней назад

    How can you NOT know about the treaty for US citizens between the US and Poland?

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  11 дней назад

      We actually did a video and spoke about the bilateral agreement, go look at our Poland Residency video… You’re not telling us anything we don’t know. We just don’t know of anybody who successfully uses that. So do so at your own risk if you go through the Hungary border by land outside of Schengen expect to be penalized. Your land options to leave Poland are Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia, not too appealing right now.

    • @michael2685
      @michael2685 6 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel --- Or Germany, or Czech Republic, or Slovakia, or Lithuania.
      You don't have to exit Schengen, only Poland.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  6 дней назад

      @@michael2685 you misunderstand, when you leave the Schengen and the countries you’re naming are Schengen their border guards are not going to associate your stay with Poland’s bilateral agreement, they see you as a Schengen over stay. You must depart Schengen via Poland or expect problems. You also should stay in Poland beyond your 90 day entry, if you have a traffic stop in Germany they will see you as an overstay if beyond 90 days. The bilateral does not grant you a Schengen visa just time in Poland.

    • @michael2685
      @michael2685 6 дней назад

      @@WarrenJulieTravel -- A friend has done this for over FIVE years already,,,, and you?
      Yes, I understand the "spirit" of the rule, however there are not border checks within the Schengen area. Train out of the country somewhere, have lunch, keep your receipts, go home to Poland.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  6 дней назад

      @@michael2685 please give your friend my email address so we can interview him please. We would love to talk to him. WarrenJulieTravel@gmail.com we had one of Viewer that used to do Ukraine, but he never came through with contacting for an interview. If your desire is to just be in Poland full-time and going to Ukraine, it’s cool, the war has changed the enthusiasm for running across the border. Here is the residency video we did where our expert explains the bilateral relationship. Expert Tips for Poland Residency Programs
      ruclips.net/video/FYiuJQuJ73w/видео.html

  • @mixnmichael1
    @mixnmichael1 11 дней назад

    Driving out of schengen is there a proper border crossing to stamp your passport or visa?

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  11 дней назад +1

      @@mixnmichael1 yes 👍however in the near future they plan to implement EES which will be fingerprints and biometric photos at these borders to enter and exit.

  • @Gudha_Ismintis
    @Gudha_Ismintis 12 дней назад +1

    you look like Alec Baldwin in your thumbnail

  • @JLTravels
    @JLTravels 13 дней назад

    What do you think of Germany restricting their borders currently…is this possibly a trend in the Schengen due to illegal immigration?

    • @Esemptius
      @Esemptius 10 дней назад

      They are not "restricting" their borders.

  • @matthewkendall8544
    @matthewkendall8544 12 дней назад

    I thought Ireland was in the Schengen

    • @BobKnight-mm2ze
      @BobKnight-mm2ze 12 дней назад +1

      I believe it's EU not Schengen, opposite of Switzerland for ex., which is Schengen not EU.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  11 дней назад

      @@matthewkendall8544 as Bob just mentioned, they are EU only.

    • @matthewkendall8544
      @matthewkendall8544 11 дней назад

      Sorry, I’m confused by this Schengen/EU thing. Through my grandfather, I am eligible for Irish citizenship. I was hoping to get an Irish passport that would then allow me visa free access to the EU. I’m no longer sure if this is possible due to the difference between EU and Schengen

    • @Esemptius
      @Esemptius 10 дней назад

      Ireland can't join Schengen due to t he ongoing Brutish occupation of part of their land. If they were to join Schengen, they would have to set up a land border on their own island between the republic and the Brutish Occupied Territories of Ireland

  • @johnsmith-dm2tq
    @johnsmith-dm2tq 13 дней назад +1

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  • @LeonardoLabastia-mq4qj
    @LeonardoLabastia-mq4qj 12 дней назад

    I really don't like Denmark! Norway is the most beautiful place in Scandinavia. Everything in Denmark is pretty horrible. The food (unless you like stinky fishy stuff) the people are not the friendliest and smell lof fish. The little mermaid in Copenhagen is in a horrible industrial area and I was so shocked by that 😢 You can see immediately what an ugly industrial area it is where the little mermaid is, you don't need to stay there for years to see what a horrible place it is. Not everyone has the same opinions as other people. So don't judge people because they have a different opinion to yourselves.

  • @Michaelthearcheangel
    @Michaelthearcheangel 13 дней назад +1

    New here, i heard a slip of you have dogs. I have service dog and cats how do you do this stuff. Find a place to stay with animals travel with pets ETC. Me and my wife want to do this stuff are budget is 7k a month.

    • @WarrenJulieTravel
      @WarrenJulieTravel  11 дней назад

      I think you emailed us about this and I emailed you back asking a few additional questions.