Bought some ink at Office Depot for my hp printer. Tried to return the ink b/c nothing would print. Apparently the batch dates were different on the cartridges (even though they were in the same box), and likely the reason why the printer would not recognize the ink. But b/c the ink was opened they would not accept the return/exchange, and said I could contact hp to get credit or something. Couldn’t find a single number to call, but ofc hp offered the ink subscription-which is the ONLY way to return bad ink carts. Since I bought in store, there was virtually no way to return or exchange the faulty $90 ink carts. So I guess I’m just paying 20 cents a page from now on 🙃
That is how they work. Put the wrong ink, subscription is bricked. Owned the subscription for over a year, subscription is slowed and bugged up. Fail to replace the subscription with the new one after 3 years, subscription is bricked.
Every car you rent is owned by "someone." All Turo cars are owned by individuals. Every house/apartment you rent, is owned by "someone." That is your landlord. Perhaps your landlord is a REIT or property management company, but that is owned by "someone." Those "people" could just be stock holders or one multi billionaire. All of these things you rent as a service is owned by someone else. You pay THEM.
@ It was briefly mentioned in the video. Illegally distributed copies of the book were removed from kindle libraries in 2009 because they were bought so cheap. The people were refunded and Amazon changed its policies since then. While they were nuanced licenses of the book, it did raise issue of digital ownership and/or censorship.
Not how you use ironic, theres a myriad of words to describe what youre talkin about but "Foreshadow" might be a good fit. Its not like Amazon got into the biz to supply people with free knowledge, there's no money in that
It's especially tragic because the original intent of the sentiment was to reduce waste, reduce prices, and let people repair products easier. The corporations somehow managed to extract all the parts that were good for the consumer.
It was only a narrative since the beginning, all this green washing, so called ecologists calling for more migrants from areas with low per capita consumption and emissions to America and Europe where they will pollute 10 x more... The real point is to get more cheap workforce and keep growing the pyramidal scheme of an economy! With more than 8 billion people on Earth, rising fast, it has become impossible for everyone to own a nice property and a car anyway...
Older gen z’s absolutely grew up with physical media. I’m not sure why people seem to think gen z is all teenagers still. The oldest gen z’s are turning 28 this year.
Yeah though, in all seriousness, I always thought that phrase was meant to sound threatening lmao like " You will own nothing and YOU WILL LIKE IT! " kinda vibe lol
Its only dystopian if you're being exploited like with subscriptions Public services aren't owned but they are accessible (libraries, libby, universal Healthcare for those who have it, tool libraries) When things are truly a collective resource and people treat stuff and each other with respect, then it can be utopian. But there's many bad apples in this sad excuse for a society we live in. Most of these comments confirm that if you had the opportunity to screw someone over, you would
@@PianoMan-hx3ev yes because you can liquidate that asset and get back hundreds of thousands. A renter doesn't get any equity in the unit they're paying the mortgage of.
I’m a painter and I asked my store manger at Sherwin Williams about why they still use the 1990s computer system that is not near up to date. But it was because they already bought the program so as long as they use it they don’t have to get the updated system is a subscription model
I currently work for them, luckily we are getting a new system soon. Though I think it actually looks like shit and the touchscreen functions is stupid. But hey! A new POS and COE! Edit: however we do have the option to switch back to the old system at any point.
Yeah, I love my physical library (started by my grandpa), and I don't buy any book that needs a proprietary app to read. If I can't get the PDF file downloaded to my phone, not buying it.
@@gabrielabatista6016 EPUB here. It's an open standard, and my kobo can read files from other sources, any source really. I've definitely put some free books on it with zero consequences.
I’m 22 with 0 subscriptions. I’ve been mp3 converting music since I was 12 and it’s insane how much money I’ve saved. I pirate all my movies and tv. I use the free podcast app. I buy physical books and movie tickets as a treat. I only play the offline campaigns of Xbox games or watch Lets Plays. If there’s ever something I want that I can’t have without buying a subscription, my motto is “oh well.”
I've just gotten back into collecting physical media again and piracy of shows and other things and have been thinking of ways to save them into a physical media form. Ik the 3 subscriptions I would keep for now bc I can afford the subscription and I use them daily so I don't feel like it's a waste of money but maybe in the future I will leave them behind too. Anyways I got side tracked, all I wanted to say is I hope I can start to adopt this mindset you have and my my frugal and responsible with my money.
@@cocoaberriI found 2 old flash drives that I uploaded my favorite music to years and years ago. I listened to it, and realized that I can use these flash drives to continue uploading anything I want to it. Maybe you can consider doing that
I remember hearing something on 60 Minutes in a segment about how all the houses are being bought by realtors (they're the ones who can always pay full price in cash, after all...) The interviewer said something like "some people would say you're killing the American Dream" The realtor replied "if the dream is having a house with a white picket fence, you can just rent the dream." Absolutely bonkers.
Omg that "rent the dream" comment is infuriating. I'd say a rented dream is more of a fantasy anyway, and that's a sad comment on the state of our economy. The dream wasn't to post a pic of an aesthetically appealing house with a white picket fence on your social media profile. The dream was to acquire an asset that would appreciate, give you a rent-free retirement, and leave something of value for the next generation, so their start would be more secure than our own. "Rent the dream" - I want to scream, lol.
They are funding a movement to end property taxes now. So once they own every home they will not have any annual cost of ownership locking in the real-estate monopoly.
Back to - stepping outside for checking the wheather - writing yourself - learning to play an instrument and sing yourself - taking notes and write with paper and pencil - drawing and painting by yourself Screw the subscription models learn from your great great grandparents as much as possible
As corporations get more and more greedy, I have become more and more frugal. Their rampant greed pushed me to budget every dollar and only have 1 or 2 subs at a time. I get ahead financially and I put my hard earned money towards physical media that I own.
And CDs! They are still cheap and believe it or not there is still lots of music that Spotify doesn't have! I'm a huge Buckethead fan and my favorite album of his (population override) is not available but I have the CD.
@Window4503 i don't really see how copying and pasting photos from your phone to a harddrive is work at all lmao I guess these kids are just built differently
@@jelociraptor318 Number they would have to actually buy the content, problem was they thought it should be free ! I told people this for years when they were dumping their collections for Apple crapple I tunes. Even if you uploaded your own copies it would change it .I had friends that lost rare mixes and copies that way. Lucky I have all the physical copies and still buy physical. I load them up on my own server so I can have them accessed easily but they are not going anywhere!
Decades ago, I worked for the cable company and always heard people complaining about paying for the service. Everyone wanted a la carte services so that they didn't have a huge cable bill. I always told people to be careful what you asked for. Fast forward to today and now you do have a la carte services (streaming services). You no longer have a $200 cable bill, you have a $100 Internet bill, an $80 cable bill, and fifteen $10 per month streaming services.
@ville6211 - Do you drive a stolen car? Do you only eat food that you stole from the grocery store? Do you steal the clothes that you wear? You can't compare the cost of stolen services to the cost of legal services.
The WORST and I mean the WORST thing I hear young people say is "but it only costs $XX dollars a month". Think of price increases in terms of percentage. Yeah, it costs $2 a month, then goes up to three. You can either look at it as "well it was only a dollar" or "that was a 50% increase" and if that does not make you want to drop it, I have no idea what will.
I totally agree with this. I’m 23 and feel like I have a different mindset towards subscriptions than most of my peers. I told a coworker that I loved her Aura Ring and was considering purchasing one, but decided against it because of the subscription aspect. She then said, “yeah I understand, but It’s only $__ a month.” My thought process goes to how that adds up to a lot of money over the span of you “owning” that product, especially when you’re paying for other subscriptions. Then if you decide you don’t want to pay, the product that cost hundreds of dollars is now unusable
Not only that.. you also need to pay a certain amount of money to cancel some subscriptions... and certain companies make it a pain to even try to cancel in the first place.
But this isn’t new to young people. Baby boomers were HUGE in using credit to purchase items they could not afford and making payments on it. This really is just a progression of that mindset. I can’t imagine financing a refrigerator lol but that was not uncommon in the 90’s.
Yeah. My dad taught me to never let a salesperson put something in monthly payment terms to sell to me. Focus on the total price first. This is true with cars and all. I am an old lady and only bought one car new. I said I would pay cash so wanted a discount. The guy said they make more money if they can finance it so cash wasn't king there. Things sure have changed.
Conspiracy theory I am willing to believe: how do you make people rely on subscription services for food? You make groceries super expensive and you outlaw gardening.
Do you mean like... theory for what will happen in the future? Because there is already some stupid stuff going on in agriculture (patented seeds. Need I say more) but gardening is definitely not outlawed lol
Yup! I use stremio, it’s a 3rd party stream site that reuploads movies/tv. I do pay $4 a month for it but still a fraction in comparison to what I was paying for prime/netflix/hulu.
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Hhhmm I disagree on this because if I was a writer Id like my readers to buy my book instead of pirate it…
Being forced to survive all on my own years ago at 21 in expensive Seattle forced me to embrace being a frugal minimalist: Thrift for my clothes, cut my own hair, do my own brows and nails, use cashback credit cards for almost every expense and pay them off early each time I get paid, took the bus or walked only, use up what I already owned and have etc. good habits to develop
You go! And that’s right, if that’s your habits it will stay that way. Snip it in the BUTT. I just turned 30 and not in debt. I have 2 paid off Toyotas perfectly maintained. That may sound like a silly accomplishment for some but I’m proud of my hard work and I’ve been diligent taking care of me cars it’s paid off so much. I bought them in 2019 they’re worth the same amount or barely less than I bought them.. 2005 and 2010. Now I’m just hoping to purchase a house one day. Blessed with common cents fur sure
Don’t forget your local library! Go IN PERSON. Libraries have to pay for licensing fees for those kindle books too. But they have a TON of physical books you can borrow. And lots of free activities too
Alright, I desperately need people to understand the difference between gen z and gen alpha. Gen Alpha are the ones that mostly didn’t grow up with dvds and cds 😭 I’m literally 22 and I watched VHS tapes all the way till I was like 14. and cds and dvds didn’t die out for a lot of us till like maybe 6?? Years ago. I think a lot of people have like warped perceptions of time regarding when physical media actually died out for most of us 💀 Also in the beginning of Netflix when it became a streaming service, a lot of us thought that it was like a rich person thing to have a Netflix subscription. Some people don’t even remember that Netflix used to be like Redbox and blockbuster where it was like rented cds for like 2-3 days. I swear we’re not that young! 😅
the majority of our generation did not grow up with those things tho. most people stoped using dvds in the early 2010s and most of our generation gen-z where toddlers at that point.
@@tozkal96 ?? I don’t know where you lived but even my brother that was born in 08’ grew up with dvds and cds?? And most of the kids around his age did too?? Having a dvd player and a boombox were pretty common around that time. I don’t know, maybe you grew up in an environment that just didn’t use physical media then.
@@OBSIDIANSTAR02 im not here to argue against your experience, i too share that same experience. however statistically speaking most of our generation only had physical media up untill theyre about 5 -10 years old. genz have for most of their life been using spotify and apple music to stream music. bought their games on playstation store, steam or the xbox store. watched their movies on netflix and hbo and so on.
yeah i think netflix was a “rich people thing” because you couldn’t get it on most tvs at the time and obviously dvd players didn’t have that option. you could only watch it on a computer but why would that be a family house thing? even if it was cheap, you had to have a new and expensive set up in order to get it to actually stream on the tv. but now pretty much anyone can, some boxes only cost 30-40$ and can stream everything.
The way to combat this: if something is a subscription, don’t buy it. Buy only tech with no subscriptions that can be hardwired to all your other tech. Download all the songs and shows you like to a drive where you can watch them again and again and they’ll never be pulled down or put behind a paywall. Don’t store anything in iCloud, store it in an extern drive. Buy lifetime subscription for any/all apps, if they don’t have a lifetime subscription, don’t use it. Assemble all the things you want to use in your life in your apartment or home, and just stick to them, don’t buy anything else till you’re financially stable. If you create media like TikTok, Insta or FB, download everything to an external drive as you create it so then if that site gets pulled, you can just re-upload your content to the next site. Etc etc. Push back - HARD.
The biggest issue is companies that change the terms of the sale, after the sale. You can buy a product, then have features removed only for them to be placed behind a paywall later on
There's also another issues, when a large amount of people refuge to a specific app, we don't know if the app would stay free after that, I don't want to jinx it, but i wouldn't be surprised if that app starting to change their business model as well after that
The tik tok of the guy on the podcast really hits home for me. My parents grew up in very low income families and throughout their lives only saw their personal finances grow. What’s been hardest for my siblings and I when leaving the nest was not realizing how our lifestyles had to change from what we were used to because we were had much less financial capability. We were told to downgrade our lifestyle habits but not shown exactly what that might look like and so just racked up debt when we weren’t doing it right.
This is exactly where our society is headed. The wealthy corporate class will own literally everything. We peasants will work our entire lives in their companies for a chance to live in their houses, lease their cars, and consume whatever food, clothing, entertainment, and education they are willing to let us access. We own nothing to pass on to our children so they must work for their lords too.
There's only one problem. It doesn't work. They will try, as have tyrants and despots have tried throughout all of human history. And the people will revolt against it at some point, as they will be left with nothing to lose and everything to gain by engaging in a revolution. This is the cycle of human history that America, the Founding Fathers, and the Constitution was designed to break free of, yet here we are.
A subscription model for heated seats?????? Are we being serious right now? At this point, I don’t really care if people pirate and I can’t really blame people for committing that kind of theft because all of this is literally stealing the rights from the people to own stuff. I mean, yes we don’t have to buy them, but they’re making it so that for you to live and to use basic things that everyone uses you need to constantly spend money that you don’t have. You can’t save up to get something because you’ll always be paying for it and so you’ll always be in debt Yah. No.
Hi, 40 yr old millennial here. We were born when media was still mostly analog, and was a teenager during the digital revolution. It always puts a big smile on my face to see younger people who never had physical media become interested in it.
That’s really interesting! My parents are a few years older than you, but they’re always confused why I love analog media so much, it’s just nice to have a physical copy that no one can take away from you. (Specifically when I got my own CD burner!)
@@cyberelf0080 That is so interesting to hear your perspective! I am 40yrs old like cesjr, and I remember how exciting it was when electronic copies were first available thinking about how much space and organization it would open up compared to physical copies in our homes. Most of my CD collection I had been accumulating since I was a tween was stolen when I was 18yrs old, and it was devastating because you lost access to those songs until you could pay to buy them all again (which was going to take years to do so as a poor college student as CDs were usually about $20 a pop even if there were just a couple songs you liked on the album). One thing that is nice about the electronic copies is that they cannot be picked up and stolen, damaged, or lost. Nowadays you can listen to any song whenever you want online, and that is just the bees knees to me compared to before when you might wait weeks or months waiting to hear a certain song again (because you had to pay for a CD/cassette, or wait to record it on the radio if you could catch it). Having physical copies is still neat though, especially for your most precious, favorite items!
@@cyberelf0080Younger millennial here, and I like in a way not owning much but when I actively want something, I don't want to "licence" it. I want a proper copy that I can do with whatever I want with. I've resisted pretty much all subscription products where possible. I'll actively pay more for the physical product. Case in point, I got a Eufy doorbell instead of a ring doorbell because I was like "Look I don't care. I want to buy it once" My philosophy is "buy once, cry once"
As someone who’s a millennial/Gen z and also used to be born poor from child till teens I have learned the value of money and I was raised well to avoid anything that will cause debts. I always make payment using my own debit card/money. The only subscriptions I pay monthly were Netflix & Apple bill. I heard of BNPL and I knew there’s something sinister about it so I didn’t use that as I know I might develop an addiction. I can proudly say I have no debts because I used my own salary to pay for my purchases. If I couldn’t afford them at first I will start saving $X per month to accumulate that desired amount to get what I want. If I really want to read books I will go to the public library near my house at a neighbourhood shopping mall.
My husband and I got rid of Xbox Live or PlayStation plus because we don’t play games online anymore. We either play together in our living room or use our PC’s (steam library). We bought Call of Duty 6 ($70) so we could play zombies together. We didn’t play the game right away and when we spent ages downloading it and then loading it up we couldn’t play together locally because we didn’t have a PlayStation plus subscription. We were livid that we couldn’t play a game locally without being connected to a network subscription. We were past the return period so we just went and traded our game for some used ones that we would actually be able to play together locally. We lost about $40 doing this but we weren’t willing to pay for a subscription again when we weren’t going to use it. It’s all getting out of hand.
@@cs8712 luckily we still have our Xboxes that we could boot up and play the older COD games. I hate how companies are doing everything they can to squeeze every single penny out of us.
This is why I think PC edges out the consoles now, yes you pay a little more to get a solid PC, but once you have it you don’t need to pay bs subscriptions for games, I don’t think I’ll buy a console ever again
Im worried that it is inevitable. You used to be able to buy music from Google Play Music, but thats discontinued now ever since they replaced it with RUclips Music. I still buy music from iTunes, but I fear that Apple might discontinue it someday because their Apple Music subscription is more profitable
THANK YOU I was looking for this. If you wanna change this subscription madness, stop participating. It takes a bit more to get used to it, but it's better than throwing money away.
Except sometimes you buy a physical product and there's a surprise subscription, like that baby monitoring device the started to introduce a subscription for essentially all their features without properly informing customer because they didn't like the fact they couldn't get money from the second hand baby supplies market, or that time a car company (BMW I think) tried to make the seat heaters in their car subscription based.
@ then dont buy that stuff and recycle already existing technology in a time of hyperinflated overconsumption there id literally no need to keep buying new stuff
I lost my channel with 22,000 subscribers, and they didn’t even show me the video that allegedly violated the rules. Without that, I couldn’t contest the decision properly. It’s frustrating to think you can pour time and effort into building a business, only for it to be taken away without proper recourse. To make matters worse, it’s clear an AI made the judgment, and I was never given the chance to speak to an actual human. Now scale this up to the future-a world where everything is subscription-based and controlled by arbitrary AI decisions. Imagine trying to navigate healthcare, medical insurance, car insurance, travel, banking, or even employment. I’ve had a taste of that potential future, and it’s deeply unsettling.
Sorry to hear that you lost your channel. This is how insurance could work as well. You claim the money and AI says no and you can't do anything about it.
Media was around but as a child I grew up with physical media like cds and dvd until like 2014 and im 19 now maybe it was just my area but physical media was still a thing. Because of this childhood I gained a love for physical items like cd, vinyl, and even picking up the habit of buying thrifted items instead of supporting major corporations is a way better feeling, knowing you took your time to pick good pieces that you can forever keep and own without it being taken like a subscription.
I hate that everything is a subscription. My husband and I have slowly been buying our favorite classic movies/music on dvd, cd, and vinyl and my favorite books on paperback. It’s refreshing to not have to hear/get targeted by an ad. We need to move back to supporting our local shops and businesses. We are looking for a family car and one of our biggest frustrations is infotainment systems that require you to login and press like 10 buttons to change the temperature or go to maps. We’re actively looking for one that DOESNT have all the tech, and I say this as someone who usually likes new tech, but it definitely feels like profits are more important nowadays 😢 it’s absolutely a tragedy how cost of living has gone up but quality of living has gone down. Something has to change.
The car thing made me so mad. My dad offered to buy me a new car for college (Ik I’m spoiled), but I refused because none of the new ones even have buttons 😭😭 like no, I’d like to be able to turn off the air conditioning by feeling for the button instead of having to take my eyes off the road, thanks
Get a VPN, a large extrenal hardrive, high speed internet & uTorrent (it's not illegal to have uTorrent but what you do with it is upto you, if you know what I mean)
The floating ipads and fully digital dashboards in these new cars are DRIVING ME INSANE! I hope Mazda never succumbs to the pressure and keep the general setup of their dashboard and infotainment systems.
For fiction books, I like buying them and then giving them to my local library. For non-fiction books, I can't do that because I take a highlighter and sticky notes to them, lol.
There's a reason physical media (like vinyls) are making such a huge comeback. I have some of my favorite albums on vinyl and I continue to collect the stuff I love. It's both a retaliatory statement but also an expression of myself
same, but i collect cassette tapes instead haha i have both old classics from the second hand shop and new bts and olivia rodrigo tapes, i find the cassette art to just be mesmerizing
@@Gregoregatos So I'm Gen-X and I grew up with cassettes. I *do not* get the current love for them! That said, if you are into them, that's awesome. Just...confusing :D
When I was growing up in a Polish village, we used to share things with each other. 1 person had a computer, another one had a Pegasus console, 1 had a ball for football, another one had a ball for basketball. We were playing various games and sports as neighbours. Can you imagine now 1 in 4 teenagers having a Netflix subscription, so friends can come over after school and watch their favourite TV series together?
No I can’t imagine it even as a 36 years old person - but I kind of like it. Socializing. Needing and wanting to interact with your community. How human. How normal.
We did that when I was in high school. We'd all pitch in for 1 subscription between the 7 of us and everyone would come to my place after school and we'd watch GOT, TWD or whatever else was on that we wanted to watch.
@@Wakeupgrandowl Fellow 36 years old here. I have a group of friends who stream shows every few times in a week (it helps that we all live in different countries now). I have Netflix, another has Amazon, and then another has Disney+, etc, etc. It helps that we're all working adults but yes, you can make it work.
Same was in my Polish neighborhood :) At some point, there was only 1 TV for several households and people gathered to watch the only program that was playing at that time. Only some kids had a bicycle, so they shared with others, because it wouldn't be fun to just ride alone. In the summer house, we have a "Monopoly" board game and everyone was coming to play together. I enjoyed that time very much. At school, we shared comic books and clothes with friends. Nowadays, every kid has a bicycle, games, toys, computer and smartphone, no need to share.
Stop getting subscriptions, it's just 10 bucks a month yes, but if you have 25 services sipping your money it's not worth it... Just bear with the ads in some of them and call it a day
I went to Target the other day and found a game I wanted to buy. The game was locked in a security clearance boxes. I was showing my boyfriend it and he pointed out that it was a digital copy! In small white print it said, “digital only.” Even when you are buying physical copies you still need to be careful.
My husband and I were just talking about this. Paying 60$ or whatever for a disk that it just a download that can be taken from you at any point even if you have the disk, is a wild concept 😂
This can be fixed. Cancel streaming and Spend less time on your phone. Buy paper newspapers and magazines. Buy CDs, tapes, and vinyl. Go to the library. Companies won’t change until it hurts financially. Buying physical media isn’t as expensive as you think. Newspapers and magazines do cost money but you end up with an object you can use as long as you wish and reuse or give away as you wish. You cannot do that with digital. Estate sales are full of great physical media on a budget. I am a Millennial and I am raising my kids to prioritize physical media. Be the customer that owns the product, not the renter of the product.
I agree with all of what you said, except that DVD's, CD's etc. can be a really unreliable purchase. I've had so many new ones not play properly. I started buying used from thrift stores, but even that isn't a guarantee. Plus, the space I would need to store all of these items is insane. I already don't even have room for my blender in the cupboard of our little 700 square foot home (all that we can afford). I only buy physical media for the things that I know I will use over and over, not because I'm opposed to physical media, but because I literally can't store it. I think a lot of lower income people gravitate towards or are forced into subscritpions for this reason. When you live in a studio apartment and will likely have to move and haul all of that media elsewhere the next time rent goes up, having all of that physical media isn't doing you any favors.
This is the solution. My only subscription is Prime, and I would consider Nebula if I had enough time to actually watch through everyone I'm following on YT. That's about it. When I got tired of the ever-growing ad segments on Pandora and Amazon music 10 years ago, I realized I could budget the "only $5 per month for ad-free" towards buying CDs and digital downloads (.mp3's) for music. It lasts forever I have as long it's backed up on at least one hard drive. Also, open source apps are way underrated, being truly free software that you may not own the licensing on, but never paid for to begin with. Read real books, collect reference books relevant to your interests, take up a craft or outdoor hobby, learn a home diy skill every year. There is a vast world out there beyond the confines of the phone and it's way better, way more affordable.
Buying requires money, downloading requires bandwidth. Backup provides data security. If your entertainment is only entertainment that time is wasted because it can be spent improving your knowledge and useful skills like DIY (which pays as well as every task you no longer pay someone else to do).
I think the rise of "minimalism" lead to some of this tbh. People feeling the weight of clutter from various collections and seeing a solution in subscriptions. DVDs to Netflix. CDs to Spotify. Large wardrobes to clothing rental services. Even large pantries to meal subscriptions like Hello Fresh. Just another form of consumption though.
the problem is not the lack of ownership imo. Theres bunch of stuff I dont own but my collective (my family, my friends, or my atelier) own. Why would I need a personal sewing machine if I just need to fix some clothes 3/4 times a year ? The problem is that we still live under capitalism and that corporations are putting everything in their power to make more profit and our quality of life do not bear any weight to them. I would love to share big tools with others and not personally own them but you just cant trust corporations to do that.
@@pinksapple Why do you need a corporation to hold your hand in sharing things with others? Of course would they ask for a fee. Just go over to your neighbours and talk to them.
My friend owns a business. He interviewed a young lady for a job as office assistant. Her resume had 12 previous places of employment. She was only 22. That’s today’s youth.
As a millennial, I've always struggled. I've had so many life setbacks, and now I don't know that I will ever really be able to afford life going forward. I can't even imagine how hard it is for Gen-Z. At least my degree is paid for, and I have some job experience. It took so long to even get to that point. I'm currently looking into buying a home (which I can FINALLY do), but the only thing in my price range are condos that come with a lifetime of rising HOA fees. I definitely feel like the world has been stacked against low income people. Some "subscriptions" do feel like a "poor tax."
I’m convinced HOAs are a euphemism for “mandatory neighborhood subscription.” You may have to move further out of your desired area to find a home without a HOA, but it is worth it! Minimizing ongoing expenses like subscriptions is one of the best ways to keep a budget under control long-term.
@@ThatLittleTexanWoman Ironically, I'm currently living in a small town, where for that price I could get a home without an HOA (some of them are brand new and quite nice). The only issue is that there aren't any jobs here. If I'm going to take out a 30 year home loan, I need a job market that is stable enough to maintain a mortgage over the long term. Unfortunately, that job market is in a larger city where things are substantially more expensive. I recently decided that what I really want is stability and peace of mind, so going with a condo in an HOA isn't the worst option for getting what I want, but it is frustrating that more options aren't available at an affordable price point.
@@ThatLittleTexanWoman HOAs were originally just for maintaining communal facilities but they quickly became a way for racist people to keep people of colour out.
The poor tax is so real. I grew up pretty poor, and now live abroad in a country with a high quality of life and a low cost of living, so I get to see how the other side live. Why have I been offered so many freebies, discounts and upgrades?? It’s people who are struggling that really deserve all of that.
4:15 using steam as a subscription is the weirdest choice. Steam is the only service that doesn't really have a subscription. Xbox, Playstation, EA, Ubisoft all would've been much better choices as an example
@@carlos150125yes but it’s also famously hard to lose games you bought on steam. I also think the European Union is currently working on something that will force game developers to leave games in a state of play even after they stop supporting it which might push companies to enact this worldwide
@@spisie130 it could be the case because steam is private, not publicly traded. That mean they don't care about immediate growth. They prefere gaining your trust for, rather, long term profit where you will by from them again (like a normal business should function). As soon as there is a descision to port to public trading, all of these treatments will be gone to optimise and increase shareholder value assets as much as possible. Gabe single handedly saving gaming, for now. I think it's likely to change mid or long term tho
My current phone is obsolete, the updates stopped after 5 years. I own an S8+; I have been telling my kid to buy physical copies of games too, but that doesn't matter, the internet seems required to play all games now, due to updates. I am so glad I have my DVD and CD collection.
It is worse that just requiring the Internet. For most PC games and some console games, the disk is just the download key for the game. The installer will just link to the Internet and download the game off of a server to then install on your computer. There isn't anything real on the disk. 😢
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Times change, I'm 70 now, don't have a single subscription. 50/60 years ago, we made a picnic and a flask of coffee. I rarely buy a coffee out, @ £4 !! It's not that I can't afford it. Buy CDs off ebay, very cheap, like DVDs. Don't be a slave to the company store!
I just hate how some apps had a lot of free features and tools, and then they got updates that turned all those things into something you had to pay to use, or just added a lot of annoying and weird ADs. So now to use it you have to pay for "premium access" or a "free AD version", like, they made it worse so you have to pay for something good that you already had access to before.
Fr. Like I do virtual photography for fun and used this app Remini for editing them. Not it's and expensive subscription. I still have a cheap one because it glitches. So I pause it time to time. Trying to find another free one. I like the apps you can buy right out and skip the subscription.
AAGAGHHRR DUDE!!!! I started using this 3rd party mp3 player app on my phone when google music shut down. It had no ads, a ton of features, and it worked offline. They added ads, and paywalled a bunch of features. We've fot a city to burn.
That is actually a really good point, a lot of ads I've seen following the whole ban for ad blockers and the aggressive push for premium here on RUclips at least, it feels like a lot of ads are frequent, either long in duration without reason or very inappropriate and in bad taste.
I was born in 2003 and I grew up with a VHS in my room, books on my shelves, DVD player was 'fancy'. A lot, if not most of us in gen Z grew up with these things and a lot of us didn't get phones until 13-16 depending on households. I just want to get the freaking stereotype out of people's heads that we don't know what a freaking DVD player is, or that somewhere around our house we don't also have like 3 full DVD books with over 100 DVDs and CDs in each. Thank you, carry on.
You just described my childhood, lmao. I have no idea why people act like Gen Z doesn't know what DvDs and VHS is, especially older Gen Z. I need to get my own DvD collection already.
03 as well. Didn’t get a phone till 14. I have bins of dvd’s and a couple vhs’s from growing up, and a year ago I ripped them all and backed them up to a media server I built. Then my mom without telling me threw them out. Even a month later and I would never have been able to get all those backed up digitally without sailing the high seas because of cost of dvd’s. I rip and/or download all my music, even if it’s a youtube-mp3, because I can’t stand not having all my music on my phone at all times. But unless the stuff gets thrown out, I at least get to keep all the media forever. The issue is a lot of movies that come out now don’t get dvd releases, they’re signed for digital streaming services only, or made by a streaming service so the only possible way to watch it is to have that service.
Ikr like I was born a year before you and I had a DVD player growing up and a flip phone (it wasn't a real phone tho just an old one my parents didn't use anymore and it wasn't on a plan/could access the old internet)
It's quite annoying. I grew up watching vhs tapes in my room. Heck, at the mall, some stores sell VHS tapes for the "retro" appeal. Owning hard covers of movies and books is always better than "owning" it on TV or on any app
Notice that the saying is not “We will own nothing…” but rather “You will own nothing…” so…if we will own nothing….who will be the ones owning all the resources? 🤔
In most parts of the world, when you buy a car, you own a car, when you buy two, you own two. When you own a house, you don’t get a knock on your door from whoever for any reason if you don’t want to. You get left ALONE. Oh why? Because you OWN it. Bring back one time fee
this is why I refuse to have subscriptions. I really hate ads interrupting my music so I just close the app and open it again so I don’t have to lol. I remember like 6 years ago Spotify had an add that for the price of a coffee you can have ad-free music and now Spotify is like $12….
My peers and friends are shocked when they find out I cancelled Netflix, Disney +, Hulu, have never had a Spotify subscription and I go to the library and rent DVDs for $1 each. "You have a DVD player?!" Of course I do... you don't? How do you watch all the DVDs you bought in the early 2000s?
Im so bitter about it, too. I only have about 3 total media subscriptions and just don't partake in the rest out of spite. I can not handle all of the different companies begging for money.
Pssst.... a staggering amount of popular professional music is on SoundCloud... if you loop a song it'll never even try to give you an ad... and if you do get an ad, turn on airplane mode and you can skip it
So much to talk about here. As a Zillenial, I truly believe it's the fact that we were raised to be consumers. Even if our parents had skills to pass down to us that would save us money during hard financial times, they instead opted for convenience. And our boomer/Gen X parents hate the idea of us struggling like they did, but I feel like due to that coddling they've set us up to struggle even more under late stage capitalism. Example of conveniences, they ordered out instead of teaching us to cook at home. They always bought new things instead of attempting repair, whether it was tech or clothing. They caved under the pressure to lease our smartphones and made sure we had the newest one instead of buying an old model outright. I don't say this to come down on Boomers/Gen X, but instead to say they were also manipulated by corporations into not valuing the skills that took hard work. Instead they were convinced that proof of being rich was not working hard, and they were willing to buy the facade of a rich life through debt, just so they'd feel good. I think the solution for Gen Z and Millenials is to get rid of the notion that we're deserved an easy life, and do the hard work of holding corporations accountable for the messes of our world they've made while building up our communities and skillsets to opt of corporations' manipulative structures.
My xennial parents repaired my clothes all the time, I never got the newest model of any tech (I was always at least 3 models behind - I’ve only had 3 phones, one was my mom’s old 5, then the iPhone 5SE when the newest model was the X, now I have the 13 mini and the newest is the 15) until I started paying for it myself. We only ever ate out once a month at most, and even then it was always a restaurant not take out. My parents invested my into the stock market without my consent when I was 16 after opening a bank account in my name without asking me. My grandparents took out bonds for my college fund. What kind of parents did you have that they bought you all the latest tech?? My parents always bought themselves all the new items, but I was never allowed them unless I was paying for it.
Recently, I've been trying to become more of a minimalist in my life. Less stuff to own, fewer accounts online. I also try to really concentrate when I go shopping, only buy what I NEED & not what I WANT. Just to help declutter, reduce stress and save money.
I use an AAC device for communication and am in community with many who do. My program cost $50 for a flat one time fee. Very suddenly and without warning, the provider emailed everyone saying they were doing away with this and switching to a $10/month subscription fee effective immediately. Anyone who had bought the program wouldn’t be impacted, but all future users would be. It boils my blood that a bunch of board members who are not reliant on AAC to communicate turned around and told people “Actually jk, it now will cost you $120 a year to be able to speak. But at least our shareholders are happy!”
This is a common problem for tech products with a small, niche market. Saturation. If they just tell their product then they swiftly reach the point where everyone who could potentially want the product has purchased it, and sales drop to practically nothing. The obvious solution for the business is to move to subscription. Other sectors can't so easily do that because they don't have the enabling technology to enforce it.
@@vylbird8014 Which is only a problem because they want infinite growth for the sake of growth. Just make a new version that people want to buy, or go make something else to sell while just maintaining the saturated software.
@@vylbird8014 They cited the problem as "third party sellers" who were getting the program out at a cheaper price. There will always been people born who need AAC for one reason or another, and many people can become AAC dependent later in life. Many AAC programs have a flat, one-time fee. Tobiidynavox saw a means of exploiting disabled folx like myself and took it
The problem facing Gen Z is that you were raised to not know any better. You were raised in a disposable, throw away world and that’s likely all you will ever know. You can’t demand an alternative because you’ve never known the alternative. Capitalists can sell you houses and cars made of plastic because you are the legacy of several generations of convenience seekers that refuse to look under the hood or check the plumbing and foundation before buying…because nobody understands how these things actually work and most consumers will continue to buy substandard products they know are substandard than admit they are incompetent and don’t understand the nature of things.
@@tay_paradoxessentially you have to buy older things. Or become an inventor/entrepreneur and create the things you want to see. Neither are easy or perfect choices, but it’s essentially what we have for now.
Don't forget about hidden subscriptions: Phones - even if you buy the phone the updates will make it barely operable after 2 years. Ultimately forcing you into a 24 month "subscription" for each phone purchased. Appliances - one day after the 3 year warranty those televisions or fridges might bugout. If you pay 600 for a TV that you have to replace every 3 years, that's a $200 a year subscription. Everything has a manufacturer scheduled 'end of life's date planned so that you do need to re buy the same thing within 3-5 years. My grand parents had appliances and household items that last 10+ years.
My toaster was given to a family member as a wedding present in 1970 and has outlived every replacement that the original owner subsequently bought, bar one.
I do hear this argument a lot, but no one I know buys appliances like this. My phone is 4 years old, my tv is 6 years old, my speaker is 12 years old, my laptop is 8 years old, so on and so forth. Do they have all the functionality and speeds of new tech? Well, obviously not. Do some of them have little quirks? Well, of course. But they all function and I’ve saved thousands by accepting slower tech that maybe needs to have a wire fiddled with once in awhile. The same is true of most my friends, we just simply do not participate in this whole replacement economy, and if something does break, we absolutely do not buy new tech.
@@mauraburke3726 I'm sure anecdotally there are cases. My TV does after 7 years, but I spent over $2k on it new so my annual price is still too high. Laptops I use for work and are unusable after 3 years based on the work I do and the system needs after each upgrade. The point is that devices are being built with a pre-determined EOL to force replacement. You might get lucky here and there, but when something does out of warranty the cost to repair might be more expensive than a replacement.
There are some things that feel like they happen, but don't. Planned obsolescence is definitely a thing, but it's not as widespread as that. I have a new phone, yes, but that was because I needed more RAM for stuff I did, my old phone (5 years old) still works just fine and I still use it often enough to carry both. If you know how to fix things, price suddenly drops a LOT, too. My family's freezer broke and we almost replaced it, but what happened was the coolant pipes just had an ice buildup. Once we got rid of the ice, it worked just fine. My car's fuel pump broke, but I fixed it for $50 because I only had to buy the pump instead of paying for a mechanic. The dryer broke, that was a $30 part. The washer had a water buildup, just clogged by stickers from jars.
This should be a @TED talk video. Very well said. Well done Ashley. I was already aware of this issue, but you have made me really consider how I am spending money, and the value of real tangible products vs online subscriptions. Thanks for lighting a fire under me!
I find it WILD that HP tried to limit the amount of pages you can print. Like, what? I haven't used their printers in over a decade, I snapped after I bought the original HP cartridge (which is insanely expensive compared to other companies) and that printer refused to recognize it. I got rid of that thing, got myself a Brother device and haven't looked back.
Printer ink is a rare case of things kind of getting better. HP has a subscription model which is generally worse than buying the small cartridges but brother and epson both have printers with large, refillable ink tanks which is a better option than back when the only ink was small, non-refillable cartridges.
I’m a gen Z and I’ve been seeing countless videos like these “physical media is coming back” “you don’t own anything” “streaming services are the best” And through all these videos I’ve learned that it’s up to us to balance it out, get the DVDs of your favorite movies, and instead of playing for Disney plus put it in savings Your video was one of the more hopeful and well phrased. Thank you for this amazing video!
@@ariel1998cit depends, most of the time I’m just buying my favorite albums new so I pay full price. (Most between $10-20) But I also get really cheap ones at thrift stores or eBay. ($1-10) So in all it doesn’t amount to a lot
Also, the good thing about physical media is that they’ll be the things that we and our time will be remembered by. What if all digital stuff just goes out and can be fixed? All that information will be lost!
I'm gonna state that most physical media ever produced has been lost to time. Physical media sucks for storage. How much luck was needed for us to have the Rosetta stone.
@ true but if we were to have a total blackout or some other disaster that led to the inaccessibility of our digital media then physical media might at least still preserve something. Then we’d have to see whether we could store or copy that remaining media with the means we’d still have then.
The problem with new cars is that when you buy from a dealer you pay more than it costs (i.e.inflation) and as soon as you leave the dealer it will drop its price in case you want to sell back.
Millennial here. I'm really glad this is being talked about. I feel like it's really easy for inter generational struggles to fall by the wayside and go overlooked. I've tried having talks with my boomer dad about these things and he's still stuck in his growing up mentality of the 1970s/1980s where things were way different and there was way more possible. Now I'm pushing 40 and yeah, I hear about these struggles gen z is having, but it's not really super affecting me because I'm 14 years into the workforce, mid-level, and don't really do the subscription thing. Inflation didn't really hurt me all that badly. But This video gives very specific evidence backed statements about why/how gen z is struggling. If my boomer father can't relate to my struggles, his generation who just refuses to give up the reigns of power definitely won't understand your struggles.
17:46 "You're not aloud to make a copy of your DVD." Maybe I haven't read the latest version of fair use, but last I remember you are aloud to make a copy of a DVD you purchased. You can make 2 backup copies for yourself.
Yeah, and the suggestion that a computer copying some bytes of a movie into RAM during playback is somehow violating copyright is absolutely insane. I'm no legal expert but I don't see how that can possibly be correct. You still use RAM when you're streaming!
Usually you are not allowed to make copies, because the companies are afriaid you'll sell them at a much cheaper price then them and you as a consumer get rich off of what they put money into. Just to be clear : I'm not one of them. I don't care what you copy and how you distribute those copies. I'm just telling you what the corporations and law makers are thinking.
I didn’t believe my eyes when I got a new printer and I had to pay for more pages I printed, even though I supplied the paper??? Things changed from my childhood man.
The subscription monster really hit me a few months ago when I wanted to watch my favorite movie “The Goonies”. Even with all the subscriptions my family has nowhere had the Goonies for free, I found my CD for it. Spent the next 30 minutes finding all the cables and hooking it up. I’m slowly building back up my CD collection and cancelled half of my subscriptions
I am chilean and I have a friend in the US who refuses to move in with me because she thinks she needs money. Shes a software engineer and earns twice what I make, with what I make you live like a king here in Chile, imagine her. But shes too scared of making the jump, when I literally explained to her that Chile is a way better option for her to live right now than the US, she could own a house, car and be safe.
@@dorjjodvobatkhuu6457 There are things called neighborhoods if you don't know, the guy/gal who commented seem pretty well financially and probably can afford living in a safe and wealthy area, y'all really think the entirety of South America is crime and drugs? What about the O-blocks in USA? All the USA is like that?
I collect vinyls, but at the same time, I have an old 5th gen Ipod that I paid about 200$ to upgrade and restore. I pirate all of my MP3's. I will never be dropping another cent on my digital music again.
Sorry not to sound preachy but a good rule of thumb I personally use is if it's less than 5 years old, please try and get it off bandcamp first if you can afford it 🫶🏻
I have been following you since before you had kids and have to say how HAPPY I am for! Watching your evolution has been so fun and inspiring. Your analyses are incredible. Mostly just want to say congrats on your success. But I also wanted to suggest that you add in how your own biases (eg how you were raised, where you’re from, race, class) might influence these videos. As impartial as you are, we are all impacted by these aspects of our identity/experience and I think it would be an interesting part of the convo.
I was in this same predicament this week buying cars too. Almost Every car under $8k had like 170k+ miles. After walking to work in 20 degree weather for like 2 weeks. I finally found a decent car under 10k with low miles. I put 5k down and only took out a 2k loan. I do see alot of people getting cars that are like 30k paying like 400 a month with like 20% interest with a minimum wage income, it's not smart and it's gonna trap you in a vicious cycle and possibility of the repo man coming for you. Alot of people just need to try to live within their means. That was something I had to learn. I really feel it fot my for my fellow gen z it's rough.
Got a 2011 ford explorer for 150,000 miles for 12k. Paid it off in a year making 17 an hour (was tight but I was not taking a payment into a new apartment rental) Now it’s just upkeep. In my area there’s nothing under 10k. I know i overpaid cause it’s only taxed at 8k. It sucks out here.
@adriannaedwards6281 yeah totally get that. I ended up getting a 2008 honda fit with 130k miles. I'm glad I saved up money the year before because I would have been SOL with having to take out a loan.
@adriannaedwards6281 omg that's insane 😭😭 I'm glad she's alright. But yeah I love Hondas I'll probably have this thing until 300k miles with the way the economy is looking lmao.
A movie I wanted to watch on Netflix was moved to Hulu. I cancelled Netflix and signed up to Hulu. A few months later it was moved back to Netflix. I decided to just buy a blu ray player and the movie. I now have a decently sized collection of dvds, blu rays, and box sets. Also, what is the "$9.99 for videogames" about? I've never paid for my steam account.
PS Plus and Xbox Live give you free games along with it. Xbox has Game Pass with a huge library, and PS Plus has a rotating library. But you lose access if you unsub
The scary part? Once you read The Secret Doctrine of Wealth, you realize how much of your life you’ve been wasting. But the good part? It’s not too late to change.
Another factor you missed is manufactured 'annoyances' that are added simply to convince you to upgrade to a more expensive option. The most clear examples currently are in video games, like limiting how many items you can carry but you can pay to carry / store more for $$. It doesn't cost them anything to allow you to carry more items, but you'll pay to remove a restriction that's been added simply to gouge more cash out of you. A real-world example would be Amazon prime video adding adverts to movies/tv shows when you already pay for prime, but you can go 'Ad-free !' if you pay them even more. I am sure there are many other examples of this and I can see it being an area of growth that greedy companies will focus on.
It’s possible to not trap yourself. I never did and am doing okay. You can easily save money, invest, and buy what you want later in life. Honestly, subscriptions, debt, sports gambling, and bad financial decisions in general are what’s keeping me ahead of my peers.
I work in a factory and find it relatively easy to save money also. I’m not that ahead but I’m definitely not paycheck to paycheck. People that I work with who make my same wage or upwards of $3 more an hour struggle to pay rent sometimes even (even though they have cheaper rent than me). Constantly making terrible avoidable financial decisions.
Depends. I mean I've avoided the PCP trap or a car for instance but I can't exactly avoid the mortgage trap and that's with me being lucky to even have a mortgage I don't own my house, the bank does, until I've paid the mortgage off.
4:10 - steam does not charge a subscription fee for using it, you just pay for the games. now, that is a digital download and steam itself has its own form of DRM so once Steam is dead, the games are. so not much better than xbox gamepass but at least you can keep the games without paying monthly.
Steam has stated in the event of shutting down they would release a patch to remove their DRM. I believe them to be true to their word. They are owned privately and not publicly traded. So they don't have shareholders to continually increase their profit numbers to satiate.
I inherited my dad’s EPIC vinyl collection when he passed away. It made me feel closer to him knowing the music that nurtured him through good times and bad. What will we leave our children? Our passwords for our subscriptions?
I went to replace a thermometer that I’ve had since I was a baby, bought the closest thing I could find to it in person, opened it up and turned it on and was told to download an app for it. I’m livid. I’m boiling alive. Take me out of this hell
Started collecting CDs,DVDs & Blurays when I noticed music was low def playing through a bluetooth speaker. And when my favorite movies were removed from certain streaming services. Feels good and secure to physically own them and have the freedom to enjoy them whenever wherever.
Maybe the best course of action is to start a trend where we live and interact with our communities again 💜 we’re being kept overwhelmed and scared to see that we have more options and don’t have to all ride on the next big trend.
A major implication of this situation is that our monthly living expenses are changeable on the whim of a corporation not by our own spending choices. In order to maintain the collections you think you have access to.... You must pay whatever the company raises the subscription price to. This makes long-term financial planning as well as monthly household budgeting extremely difficult.
And what’s worse is the amount for these subscriptions keeps going up and up. We switched cause cable was too expensive, now it’s becoming just as expensive. Not even worth it anymore.
My partner and I are 20 Our rent is 3,000 AUS a month We only have enough money to buy food every few days - let alone car payments and bills We both work hard and we both do our best but we are barely surviving The world is ridiculous
After watching this, I formulated a real messed up take. I'm 44 with a 22 year old daughter. She's doing well in college. I'm lifelong poor. I tried. I have two master's degrees but chronic disability keeps me unemployed. With the absolute insanity/horror of USA policy, I feel like I am dying a death of despair. I rely on government benefits to exist and I cannot make it, in the job market to sustain myself. My take is that no matter how horrible this is and gets, I have to stay alive in order for my daughter to have shelter. In order for the cycle of poverty to not keep going with her. Thank you so much for the great work you did on this! And I am so sorry, my Canadian friend! I'm on of the good ones and I'm so sorry for the BS.
I grew up in the 70s/80s and life was fantastic,wonderful and full of freedom. Now,not so much. The days of drive-ins,12 cent comic books,99 cent action figures and no hoarding of media were FAR superior...Life was bliss...Nowadays id horrible. I basically live on nostalgia. There is nothing of substance today...I'd go back in a second...
I think each era has its pluses. I grew up in the 70s and 80s too, and tv series are much, much better now, that’s where all the screenwriting talent has gone and you have access to great tv from all over the world. Same with music, there is some great new music happening and you can find anything you want. It’s incredible. Plenty of substance, you just have to look for it. Which the internet makes easy!
Yeah I wouldn't want to go back to all of it, just some of it... I just remember how boring it was before. My mind has grown faster with access to more information than the local library used to offer. Getting to find like minded people on internet around the world to talk about odd, niche things I would have never been able to find in my local population, etc. Online stores with lots of options for the things you need that are so hard to find in a physical store locally too! Sure I agree I miss the economy being better and the country being more chill and okay. It was nice that life moved a wee bit slower...but there were a lot of downsides to it too. My parents were divorced and I was always shuttled back and forth between homes at least once or twice a week. As an adult I have a stable home environment and security. I love the access and info internet offers. But I would love to go back to have my youthful body back before I was injured. I also think that a lot of what we miss from being younger isn't the era per se, it is more the feeling of being young, and life being new and exciting. I am sure if you asked 55yr olds back in the 70s/80s they would have said the same thing about how much better "the old days" were, and a lot of it was their youth before real life and living sunk in and wore them out with age.
23 and bought a house here in Alaska. 200,000 after 20,000 down. Only reason I could do that was living with a family friend that didn’t charge rent or bills. That was after two incomes and heavily saving for roughly 3 years. We lived in a basement, and only came out to do anything when it was summer.
Young people need to learn to fight back. Lol, I lead a full digital life, listen and download music, read books, I am a designer using a ton of programs and I have O subscriptions. There are one time purchase options for nearly everything. Adobe never got a single subscription dollar from me.
@@marsrii4372 I've realized from talking to the people here that they don't have a concept of free. It's so ingrained in them to spend money that they don't see the irony of her having a sponsor. This is just the new version of Che t-shirts for people who don't understand a problem and have no intention to fight.
I've started buying cds and vinyl back in Covid. I'm glad that I did this because now it's cool seeing the items that I own. I think we need to go back to buying physical products again everything being digital is starting to become a problem.
Years ago I lost my Facebook account that had irreplaceable photos and messages from highschool and my early adult years. One day I tried signing in and was told I had to upload a government issued ID to do so. I thought it was some fishing malware so I didn't. I'm angry that all those memories are gone, but its taught me to not get attached to anything I can't hold.
Memories aren't in pictures. They are in your mind and in your heart. Before the camera, do you think people didn't have memories? I do understand where you coming from. My old Facebook got deleted. I lost 14 years of pictures, conversations, etc. But that's where I realized the things that mattered, I remembered. People have forgotten that their memories aren't pictures. They are part of you
Id be willing to bet money that your stuff isnt gone permanently. Facebook probably has it backed up somewhere. Id highly doubt that any account fully gets deleted.
@@evilweevle maybe so. I do agree, but that doesn't do me any good since it was set up with an old hotmail account and I don't remember the password. I do know I'm never scanning my drivers license or any ID and giving that info to a social media account.
Last year I started buying cds again. It’s so gratifying honestly. If one of my family member plays a song I have on cd I always yell “I HAVE THAT ON CD!!”
I feel guilt for owning physical books for the space (minimalism and decluttering being pushed), and paper waste so buy audiobooks or Kindle, and occasionally second hand books. Amazon own most of my media in terms of books and movies, they could all disappear.
Go to a library... I found out that my library offers e-books and audiobooks too. Sure, not all of them but if an average library in Czech Republic can have that, I'm pretty sure libraries in the US could have that too :)
In Germany we have cabinets for used books all over the cities since a few years. Have found lots of great books there for free. If you have read your books and don't want to keep them, don't have enough space at home or think "thos book should be read by more people", you bring them to one of those cabinets and another person will be happy. :)
BNPL option is not only being used by Gen Zers. My elderly Boomer landlady remarked that a $256 designer purse was “only $51 a month” when watching one of the shopping networks this week. And she’s 81!!
I was arguing with someone few years ago. we were talking about car ownership, and I commented that eventually we won't be having cars at all, we would simply be having a yearly subscription of renting car. being a car salesman he is, he insisted. "it's not subscription, it's leasing! and you have the option to sell back the car at a guaranteed price for a new car in three years."
Yeah well now they want to ban cars and make you rent a self-driving cab to go anywhere. Good some of the time. Bad when you really really need a car, like in any emergency.
So don't subscribe. Why is it so hard? Learn hardware and software. Own everything that is personal for you. Buy books, disk drives, backups and save everything that you love. Movies, music, books, games, pictures, videos, etc save everything. How large is your collection? Hardware is cheap if s/w labor is you. Subscription model had been around for very long. When i started buying the cds of my favorite movies / shows some people laughed at that. Now those same people are complaining about subscription.
I’m printing my photos. I’m doing a selection right now but ALL my memories are either on the cloud or on social media. Someone else can just stop offering that service and I wouldn’t have any picture from my own life
15:22 What an insightful take on our dwindling grasp on our most prized possessions.. the information we consume nowadays are truly at the hands of those we subscribe to. This just decreases our ability to pass down information to our kin, let alone the power to verify correct information as we initially received it. One day history can just change up and we wouldn’t even have the means to verify whether it’s even real or accurate, or just made up to fulfill the intents and purposes of big corporations. Wow. 😢
You’re not mortgaging anything because you’re not building equity nor ownership. You are actually renting your future and will have nothing to show for it when you stop paying the monthly fees.
@@terrisserose a market that was living within its actual housing boundaries. Instead the 30-year allowed for folks to get into generational debt for the idea they could then sell to fund their retirement or leave to children for wealth gain. It has led to people being politically averse to risk because it may upset the market their only wealth is tied up in; it has also ruined class solidarity as people moved away from urban centers and everyone has their own ‘castle’. Now if anything happens to disturb the market or what Wall Street was doing in the early 2000s and all of sudden people have nothing, nothing but debt.
@@terrisseroseviolent revolution. The only reason we ever got the limited economic security of the 50s and a couple decades after, was the threat of communism rising abroad. Now that’s been quashed those in charge just want to bleed everyone dry like they did in the 19th c.
I go to a local cafe and they have Buy Now Pay Later option upon checkout. If you cannot afford a coffee by just paying for it, leave the cafe. This is just insane that we have this option for a cup of coffee that’s $5
I’m 19 and in college and I absolutely remember having physical media for most of my life. I had a DVD and VHS player in my bedroom when I was younger. Idk why people always think that Gen Z didn’t grow up with these things.
What's the motto lads "if buying ain't owning piracy ain't stealing"
Love that!
I agree
Mhm
YARRR HARRR MATEY
I support piracy, but I'm struggling to learn how to do it safely and consistently..
the printer with a subscription is downright criminal
Bought some ink at Office Depot for my hp printer. Tried to return the ink b/c nothing would print. Apparently the batch dates were different on the cartridges (even though they were in the same box), and likely the reason why the printer would not recognize the ink. But b/c the ink was opened they would not accept the return/exchange, and said I could contact hp to get credit or something. Couldn’t find a single number to call, but ofc hp offered the ink subscription-which is the ONLY way to return bad ink carts. Since I bought in store, there was virtually no way to return or exchange the faulty $90 ink carts. So I guess I’m just paying 20 cents a page from now on 🙃
That is how they work.
Put the wrong ink, subscription is bricked. Owned the subscription for over a year, subscription is slowed and bugged up. Fail to replace the subscription with the new one after 3 years, subscription is bricked.
@@cosmoscache buy old printer with 3rd supported ink
Every car you rent is owned by "someone." All Turo cars are owned by individuals. Every house/apartment you rent, is owned by "someone." That is your landlord. Perhaps your landlord is a REIT or property management company, but that is owned by "someone." Those "people" could just be stock holders or one multi billionaire. All of these things you rent as a service is owned by someone else. You pay THEM.
@ were talking about printers and ink. What are you bring up cars and houses for
Amazon removing “1984” from people’s libraries after they bought it is the epitome of irony.
😮wait really?
@ It was briefly mentioned in the video. Illegally distributed copies of the book were removed from kindle libraries in 2009 because they were bought so cheap. The people were refunded and Amazon changed its policies since then. While they were nuanced licenses of the book, it did raise issue of digital ownership and/or censorship.
When Disney started to edit their movies because of modern sensibilities I got all the dvds back.
1984 is not supposed to be an instruction manual
Not how you use ironic, theres a myriad of words to describe what youre talkin about but "Foreshadow" might be a good fit. Its not like Amazon got into the biz to supply people with free knowledge, there's no money in that
It's especially tragic because the original intent of the sentiment was to reduce waste, reduce prices, and let people repair products easier. The corporations somehow managed to extract all the parts that were good for the consumer.
It was only a narrative since the beginning, all this green washing, so called ecologists calling for more migrants from areas with low per capita consumption and emissions to America and Europe where they will pollute 10 x more...
The real point is to get more cheap workforce and keep growing the pyramidal scheme of an economy!
With more than 8 billion people on Earth, rising fast, it has become impossible for everyone to own a nice property and a car anyway...
The original lie you mean everything is for money or greed
Older gen z’s absolutely grew up with physical media. I’m not sure why people seem to think gen z is all teenagers still. The oldest gen z’s are turning 28 this year.
Thank you! I'm 25 and Gen Z and have a 2 year old. I feel like my generation is talked about like were all still infants.
This is standard - they used to call us millennials because we were young. They’ll figure it out when Alpha grows up
Am 27 I grew up with cassette tapes, VHS, all that
this 👏
I'm 18 I grow up with physical media
You will own nothing and be happy. It never sounded idealistic. It always sounded dystopian.
Agreed
THIS
Yeah though, in all seriousness, I always thought that phrase was meant to sound threatening lmao like " You will own nothing and YOU WILL LIKE IT! " kinda vibe lol
Its only dystopian if you're being exploited like with subscriptions
Public services aren't owned but they are accessible (libraries, libby, universal Healthcare for those who have it, tool libraries)
When things are truly a collective resource and people treat stuff and each other with respect, then it can be utopian. But there's many bad apples in this sad excuse for a society we live in. Most of these comments confirm that if you had the opportunity to screw someone over, you would
@@abc.6223THIS!
Paying rent is just a monthly subscription of not being homeless 🙃
Literally 😢😢
Having a house and paying property taxes is like renting your house from the govt. So do we actually own anything?
It’s also paying someone else’s mortgage
@@PianoMan-hx3ev yes because you can liquidate that asset and get back hundreds of thousands. A renter doesn't get any equity in the unit they're paying the mortgage of.
@ True.
I’m a painter and I asked my store manger at Sherwin Williams about why they still use the 1990s computer system that is not near up to date. But it was because they already bought the program so as long as they use it they don’t have to get the updated system is a subscription model
I currently work for them, luckily we are getting a new system soon. Though I think it actually looks like shit and the touchscreen functions is stupid. But hey! A new POS and COE!
Edit: however we do have the option to switch back to the old system at any point.
I keep my old Adobe CS3 just in case. You just never know if I might need a physical install..
This is why I am slowly making my own physical library. I am constantly terrified I will lose my favorite books forever.
Build your own library and patronize your public library.
Yeah, I love my physical library (started by my grandpa), and I don't buy any book that needs a proprietary app to read. If I can't get the PDF file downloaded to my phone, not buying it.
@@gabrielabatista6016 EPUB here. It's an open standard, and my kobo can read files from other sources, any source really. I've definitely put some free books on it with zero consequences.
Its so peaceful reading a book, I don't know how anyone could read off of a glowing screen.
I love insanely smelling book pages more than ever buying a nook or reading digitally
I’m 22 with 0 subscriptions. I’ve been mp3 converting music since I was 12 and it’s insane how much money I’ve saved. I pirate all my movies and tv. I use the free podcast app. I buy physical books and movie tickets as a treat. I only play the offline campaigns of Xbox games or watch Lets Plays. If there’s ever something I want that I can’t have without buying a subscription, my motto is “oh well.”
27 and same!!
That’s a better mindset than me that’s for sure. I
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I've just gotten back into collecting physical media again and piracy of shows and other things and have been thinking of ways to save them into a physical media form. Ik the 3 subscriptions I would keep for now bc I can afford the subscription and I use them daily so I don't feel like it's a waste of money but maybe in the future I will leave them behind too.
Anyways I got side tracked, all I wanted to say is I hope I can start to adopt this mindset you have and my my frugal and responsible with my money.
@@cocoaberriI found 2 old flash drives that I uploaded my favorite music to years and years ago. I listened to it, and realized that I can use these flash drives to continue uploading anything I want to it. Maybe you can consider doing that
Very very similar.
I remember hearing something on 60 Minutes in a segment about how all the houses are being bought by realtors (they're the ones who can always pay full price in cash, after all...) The interviewer said something like "some people would say you're killing the American Dream" The realtor replied "if the dream is having a house with a white picket fence, you can just rent the dream."
Absolutely bonkers.
Omg that "rent the dream" comment is infuriating. I'd say a rented dream is more of a fantasy anyway, and that's a sad comment on the state of our economy. The dream wasn't to post a pic of an aesthetically appealing house with a white picket fence on your social media profile. The dream was to acquire an asset that would appreciate, give you a rent-free retirement, and leave something of value for the next generation, so their start would be more secure than our own. "Rent the dream" - I want to scream, lol.
That's psychopathic.
“I think they meant it when they said you can’t buy love. Now I know you can rent it.”
They are funding a movement to end property taxes now. So once they own every home they will not have any annual cost of ownership locking in the real-estate monopoly.
@@juanvaldez7279I didn't even think of that....
Back to - stepping outside for checking the wheather
- writing yourself
- learning to play an instrument and sing yourself
- taking notes and write with paper and pencil
- drawing and painting by yourself
Screw the subscription models learn from your great great grandparents as much as possible
The weather advice works but there are many free apps you can use for weather ,i still dont understand the need for paying for those useless things
100% agree
As corporations get more and more greedy, I have become more and more frugal. Their rampant greed pushed me to budget every dollar and only have 1 or 2 subs at a time. I get ahead financially and I put my hard earned money towards physical media that I own.
We did this too. It’s actually pretty freeing to not care about any of these things anymore
My partner and I do this as well! Only thing I pay for is Spotify. Everything else I can get for free 😂
we may be heading into a dictatorship in north America
its all about money and power nowadays not about affordable things
@@moriqana3679 yeah spotify is the only one that's worth it
No ownership = 100% pure consumer
No ownership = Businesses own you
No ownership = No security
No ownership = No control. They control YOU
You are the carbon they want to reduce.
Now to just wait for the Boomers and the business owners to gaslight you and say it's your fault because of Starbucks to arrive in 3, 2, 1...
If paying is not owning, piracy is not theft. Simple as that.
"You will own nothing and be happy"
Houses are subscription based :(
I'm 34 - it's the weirdest phenomenon in the world that people don't just buy DVD's/ books and manually back up their photos to an external hard-drive
“Too much work”. Unfortunately once a more convenient option is offered, people tend to not want to slow down even if it would benefit them.
And CDs! They are still cheap and believe it or not there is still lots of music that Spotify doesn't have! I'm a huge Buckethead fan and my favorite album of his (population override) is not available but I have the CD.
@@CalvinJGreen i still buy cds! They're so cheap now. I've also held onto at least 40 or so from my earlier life. It's amazing- there's *no ads*
@Window4503 i don't really see how copying and pasting photos from your phone to a harddrive is work at all lmao I guess these kids are just built differently
@@jelociraptor318 Number they would have to actually buy the content, problem was they thought it should be free ! I told people this for years when they were dumping their collections for Apple crapple I tunes. Even if you uploaded your own copies it would change it .I had friends that lost rare mixes and copies that way. Lucky I have all the physical copies and still buy physical. I load them up on my own server so I can have them accessed easily but they are not going anywhere!
Decades ago, I worked for the cable company and always heard people complaining about paying for the service. Everyone wanted a la carte services so that they didn't have a huge cable bill. I always told people to be careful what you asked for. Fast forward to today and now you do have a la carte services (streaming services). You no longer have a $200 cable bill, you have a $100 Internet bill, an $80 cable bill, and fifteen $10 per month streaming services.
Huh, internet costs 35€ for a 500gb/s connection and every single show and movie is available for free on pirate streaming sites on release date.
I don't because I don't use many services.
@ville6211 - Do you drive a stolen car? Do you only eat food that you stole from the grocery store? Do you steal the clothes that you wear? You can't compare the cost of stolen services to the cost of legal services.
Which is only *marginally* better
@ville6211 all content is free if you don't pay for it :)
The WORST and I mean the WORST thing I hear young people say is "but it only costs $XX dollars a month". Think of price increases in terms of percentage. Yeah, it costs $2 a month, then goes up to three. You can either look at it as "well it was only a dollar" or "that was a 50% increase" and if that does not make you want to drop it, I have no idea what will.
I totally agree with this. I’m 23 and feel like I have a different mindset towards subscriptions than most of my peers. I told a coworker that I loved her Aura Ring and was considering purchasing one, but decided against it because of the subscription aspect. She then said, “yeah I understand, but It’s only $__ a month.” My thought process goes to how that adds up to a lot of money over the span of you “owning” that product, especially when you’re paying for other subscriptions. Then if you decide you don’t want to pay, the product that cost hundreds of dollars is now unusable
Not only that.. you also need to pay a certain amount of money to cancel some subscriptions... and certain companies make it a pain to even try to cancel in the first place.
As soon as newspapers started struggling that is when society turned its back on ownership and democracy.
But this isn’t new to young people. Baby boomers were HUGE in using credit to purchase items they could not afford and making payments on it. This really is just a progression of that mindset. I can’t imagine financing a refrigerator lol but that was not uncommon in the 90’s.
Yeah. My dad taught me to never let a salesperson put something in monthly payment terms to sell to me. Focus on the total price first. This is true with cars and all. I am an old lady and only bought one car new. I said I would pay cash so wanted a discount. The guy said they make more money if they can finance it so cash wasn't king there. Things sure have changed.
Conspiracy theory I am willing to believe: how do you make people rely on subscription services for food? You make groceries super expensive and you outlaw gardening.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. Each day that passes I am more willing to fake my death and become a forest witch
Food is already a subscription service
"Outlaw gardening" tell me you live in a city without telling me you live in a city.
@ hey you never know 😂 and yes I do live in one. Like I said just a conspiracy theory.
Do you mean like... theory for what will happen in the future? Because there is already some stupid stuff going on in agriculture (patented seeds. Need I say more) but gardening is definitely not outlawed lol
this is why i pirate EVERYTHING
If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing
Yep. Piracy and free trials.
90% of subscription-based things are really only worth the free trial time allotment.
Yup! I use stremio, it’s a 3rd party stream site that reuploads movies/tv. I do pay $4 a month for it but still a fraction in comparison to what I was paying for prime/netflix/hulu.
Hhhmm I disagree on this because if I was a writer Id like my readers to buy my book instead of pirate it…
If you can buy and own a copy of your book, then of course pirating it isn't good
Being forced to survive all on my own years ago at 21 in expensive Seattle forced me to embrace being a frugal minimalist:
Thrift for my clothes, cut my own hair, do my own brows and nails, use cashback credit cards for almost every expense and pay them off early each time I get paid, took the bus or walked only, use up what I already owned and have etc. good habits to develop
You go!
And that’s right, if that’s your habits it will stay that way. Snip it in the BUTT.
I just turned 30 and not in debt.
I have 2 paid off Toyotas perfectly maintained.
That may sound like a silly accomplishment for some but I’m proud of my hard work and I’ve been diligent taking care of me cars it’s paid off so much. I bought them in 2019 they’re worth the same amount or barely less than I bought them.. 2005 and 2010.
Now I’m just hoping to purchase a house one day. Blessed with common cents fur sure
A sane commenter. They do exist...
@@Dingusdongus257yeah man finally someone gets that we ought to shut up and live miserable lives
Use cash, it will further improve your frugal habits.
You mean poor? It's ok to be poor. It's actually normal to be poor and struggling.
Don’t forget your local library! Go IN PERSON. Libraries have to pay for licensing fees for those kindle books too. But they have a TON of physical books you can borrow. And lots of free activities too
This is just the same subscription model..
@@MyLovelyButtercuphow? When the library is free?
@@MyLovelyButtercup Library costs nothing. You just go in and get a library card. You just gotta take back the books in time.
@@MyLovelyButtercup L… ratio’d
@@MyLovelyButtercupHow? Libraries only charge if you damage their books. They don't charge you for anything else.
Alright, I desperately need people to understand the difference between gen z and gen alpha. Gen Alpha are the ones that mostly didn’t grow up with dvds and cds 😭 I’m literally 22 and I watched VHS tapes all the way till I was like 14. and cds and dvds didn’t die out for a lot of us till like maybe 6?? Years ago. I think a lot of people have like warped perceptions of time regarding when physical media actually died out for most of us 💀 Also in the beginning of Netflix when it became a streaming service, a lot of us thought that it was like a rich person thing to have a Netflix subscription. Some people don’t even remember that Netflix used to be like Redbox and blockbuster where it was like rented cds for like 2-3 days. I swear we’re not that young! 😅
My family had Netflix cds in 2012 i think after blockbuster closed, we love films
the majority of our generation did not grow up with those things tho. most people stoped using dvds in the early 2010s and most of our generation gen-z where toddlers at that point.
@@tozkal96 ?? I don’t know where you lived but even my brother that was born in 08’ grew up with dvds and cds?? And most of the kids around his age did too?? Having a dvd player and a boombox were pretty common around that time. I don’t know, maybe you grew up in an environment that just didn’t use physical media then.
@@OBSIDIANSTAR02 im not here to argue against your experience, i too share that same experience. however statistically speaking most of our generation only had physical media up untill theyre about 5 -10 years old. genz have for most of their life been using spotify and apple music to stream music. bought their games on playstation store, steam or the xbox store. watched their movies on netflix and hbo and so on.
yeah i think netflix was a “rich people thing” because you couldn’t get it on most tvs at the time and obviously dvd players didn’t have that option. you could only watch it on a computer but why would that be a family house thing? even if it was cheap, you had to have a new and expensive set up in order to get it to actually stream on the tv. but now pretty much anyone can, some boxes only cost 30-40$ and can stream everything.
The way to combat this: if something is a subscription, don’t buy it. Buy only tech with no subscriptions that can be hardwired to all your other tech. Download all the songs and shows you like to a drive where you can watch them again and again and they’ll never be pulled down or put behind a paywall. Don’t store anything in iCloud, store it in an extern drive. Buy lifetime subscription for any/all apps, if they don’t have a lifetime subscription, don’t use it. Assemble all the things you want to use in your life in your apartment or home, and just stick to them, don’t buy anything else till you’re financially stable. If you create media like TikTok, Insta or FB, download everything to an external drive as you create it so then if that site gets pulled, you can just re-upload your content to the next site. Etc etc. Push back - HARD.
Unfortunately people dont learn until they are completely pushed over the edge
The biggest issue is companies that change the terms of the sale, after the sale. You can buy a product, then have features removed only for them to be placed behind a paywall later on
There's also another issues, when a large amount of people refuge to a specific app, we don't know if the app would stay free after that, I don't want to jinx it, but i wouldn't be surprised if that app starting to change their business model as well after that
"Dont buy tech with subscription services"
*not too long after*
"Buy lifetime subscriptions"
Can't have it both ways. Lmmfgdao
Yo ho the pirates life is for me
The tik tok of the guy on the podcast really hits home for me. My parents grew up in very low income families and throughout their lives only saw their personal finances grow. What’s been hardest for my siblings and I when leaving the nest was not realizing how our lifestyles had to change from what we were used to because we were had much less financial capability. We were told to downgrade our lifestyle habits but not shown exactly what that might look like and so just racked up debt when we weren’t doing it right.
This is exactly where our society is headed. The wealthy corporate class will own literally everything. We peasants will work our entire lives in their companies for a chance to live in their houses, lease their cars, and consume whatever food, clothing, entertainment, and education they are willing to let us access. We own nothing to pass on to our children so they must work for their lords too.
Neo feudalism
There's only one problem. It doesn't work.
They will try, as have tyrants and despots have tried throughout all of human history. And the people will revolt against it at some point, as they will be left with nothing to lose and everything to gain by engaging in a revolution. This is the cycle of human history that America, the Founding Fathers, and the Constitution was designed to break free of, yet here we are.
Feudalism!
Feudalism but with fancy gadgets!
ALL HAIL ʓÿ (elon musks' child)
A subscription model for heated seats?????? Are we being serious right now? At this point, I don’t really care if people pirate and I can’t really blame people for committing that kind of theft because all of this is literally stealing the rights from the people to own stuff.
I mean, yes we don’t have to buy them, but they’re making it so that for you to live and to use basic things that everyone uses you need to constantly spend money that you don’t have.
You can’t save up to get something because you’ll always be paying for it and so you’ll always be in debt
Yah. No.
Love your channel Alteori ❤
You can still buy physical DVDs and CD
@@ariel1998c For now. Like games, most are on sites and downloads, that can be blocked any time.
If i ever find a car that has a subscription service for a hardware feature, you bet your ass i will rewire shit myself til it works
Yooo! Wsg Alteori! Much love from 42k 🫵⛽️🫡
Hi, 40 yr old millennial here. We were born when media was still mostly analog, and was a teenager during the digital revolution. It always puts a big smile on my face to see younger people who never had physical media become interested in it.
That’s really interesting! My parents are a few years older than you, but they’re always confused why I love analog media so much, it’s just nice to have a physical copy that no one can take away from you. (Specifically when I got my own CD burner!)
My parents got me a ton of blank CDs/DVDs and a disc burner for Christmas and I’m so excited to use them :D
@squigglefifi It’s so fun! Hope u enjoy it!
@@cyberelf0080 That is so interesting to hear your perspective! I am 40yrs old like cesjr, and I remember how exciting it was when electronic copies were first available thinking about how much space and organization it would open up compared to physical copies in our homes.
Most of my CD collection I had been accumulating since I was a tween was stolen when I was 18yrs old, and it was devastating because you lost access to those songs until you could pay to buy them all again (which was going to take years to do so as a poor college student as CDs were usually about $20 a pop even if there were just a couple songs you liked on the album). One thing that is nice about the electronic copies is that they cannot be picked up and stolen, damaged, or lost.
Nowadays you can listen to any song whenever you want online, and that is just the bees knees to me compared to before when you might wait weeks or months waiting to hear a certain song again (because you had to pay for a CD/cassette, or wait to record it on the radio if you could catch it).
Having physical copies is still neat though, especially for your most precious, favorite items!
@@cyberelf0080Younger millennial here, and I like in a way not owning much but when I actively want something, I don't want to "licence" it. I want a proper copy that I can do with whatever I want with.
I've resisted pretty much all subscription products where possible. I'll actively pay more for the physical product. Case in point, I got a Eufy doorbell instead of a ring doorbell because I was like "Look I don't care. I want to buy it once"
My philosophy is "buy once, cry once"
As someone who’s a millennial/Gen z and also used to be born poor from child till teens I have learned the value of money and I was raised well to avoid anything that will cause debts. I always make payment using my own debit card/money. The only subscriptions I pay monthly were Netflix & Apple bill. I heard of BNPL and I knew there’s something sinister about it so I didn’t use that as I know I might develop an addiction. I can proudly say I have no debts because I used my own salary to pay for my purchases. If I couldn’t afford them at first I will start saving $X per month to accumulate that desired amount to get what I want. If I really want to read books I will go to the public library near my house at a neighbourhood shopping mall.
My husband and I got rid of Xbox Live or PlayStation plus because we don’t play games online anymore. We either play together in our living room or use our PC’s (steam library).
We bought Call of Duty 6 ($70) so we could play zombies together. We didn’t play the game right away and when we spent ages downloading it and then loading it up we couldn’t play together locally because we didn’t have a PlayStation plus subscription. We were livid that we couldn’t play a game locally without being connected to a network subscription. We were past the return period so we just went and traded our game for some used ones that we would actually be able to play together locally. We lost about $40 doing this but we weren’t willing to pay for a subscription again when we weren’t going to use it.
It’s all getting out of hand.
I agree. Online only coop is so evil and I’m freaking sick of it too
Makes me glad I still have two ps2s and two copies of SOCOM II that have LAN multiplayer built-in
@@cs8712 luckily we still have our Xboxes that we could boot up and play the older COD games.
I hate how companies are doing everything they can to squeeze every single penny out of us.
This is why I think PC edges out the consoles now, yes you pay a little more to get a solid PC, but once you have it you don’t need to pay bs subscriptions for games, I don’t think I’ll buy a console ever again
@ hoping that Steam never succumbs to the subscription based gaming. I don’t foresee that but it will be a dark dark day if it does happen.
what annoys me to no end is that this is framed as inevitable it's literally free to NOT participate in subscription
Im worried that it is inevitable. You used to be able to buy music from Google Play Music, but thats discontinued now ever since they replaced it with RUclips Music. I still buy music from iTunes, but I fear that Apple might discontinue it someday because their Apple Music subscription is more profitable
THANK YOU
I was looking for this. If you wanna change this subscription madness, stop participating. It takes a bit more to get used to it, but it's better than throwing money away.
Well, not really
Except sometimes you buy a physical product and there's a surprise subscription, like that baby monitoring device the started to introduce a subscription for essentially all their features without properly informing customer because they didn't like the fact they couldn't get money from the second hand baby supplies market, or that time a car company (BMW I think) tried to make the seat heaters in their car subscription based.
@ then dont buy that stuff and recycle already existing technology in a time of hyperinflated overconsumption there id literally no need to keep buying new stuff
I lost my channel with 22,000 subscribers, and they didn’t even show me the video that allegedly violated the rules. Without that, I couldn’t contest the decision properly. It’s frustrating to think you can pour time and effort into building a business, only for it to be taken away without proper recourse. To make matters worse, it’s clear an AI made the judgment, and I was never given the chance to speak to an actual human.
Now scale this up to the future-a world where everything is subscription-based and controlled by arbitrary AI decisions. Imagine trying to navigate healthcare, medical insurance, car insurance, travel, banking, or even employment. I’ve had a taste of that potential future, and it’s deeply unsettling.
Sorry to hear that you lost your channel. This is how insurance could work as well. You claim the money and AI says no and you can't do anything about it.
Something something Industrial Revolution and it's consequences?
@@monikabarcikowska6793 Who gets insurance? Why would they pay on the policy?
that sucks
Yeah... I've already heard of ai rejecting employment applications...
Media was around but as a child I grew up with physical media like cds and dvd until like 2014 and im 19 now maybe it was just my area but physical media was still a thing. Because of this childhood I gained a love for physical items like cd, vinyl, and even picking up the habit of buying thrifted items instead of supporting major corporations is a way better feeling, knowing you took your time to pick good pieces that you can forever keep and own without it being taken like a subscription.
I hate that everything is a subscription. My husband and I have slowly been buying our favorite classic movies/music on dvd, cd, and vinyl and my favorite books on paperback. It’s refreshing to not have to hear/get targeted by an ad. We need to move back to supporting our local shops and businesses. We are looking for a family car and one of our biggest frustrations is infotainment systems that require you to login and press like 10 buttons to change the temperature or go to maps. We’re actively looking for one that DOESNT have all the tech, and I say this as someone who usually likes new tech, but it definitely feels like profits are more important nowadays 😢 it’s absolutely a tragedy how cost of living has gone up but quality of living has gone down. Something has to change.
The car thing made me so mad. My dad offered to buy me a new car for college (Ik I’m spoiled), but I refused because none of the new ones even have buttons 😭😭 like no, I’d like to be able to turn off the air conditioning by feeling for the button instead of having to take my eyes off the road, thanks
Totally get this. It feels like we are moving backwards and I yearn to go back to the 80s when living was simpler and the quality of life better
Get a VPN, a large extrenal hardrive, high speed internet & uTorrent (it's not illegal to have uTorrent but what you do with it is upto you, if you know what I mean)
The floating ipads and fully digital dashboards in these new cars are DRIVING ME INSANE! I hope Mazda never succumbs to the pressure and keep the general setup of their dashboard and infotainment systems.
For fiction books, I like buying them and then giving them to my local library. For non-fiction books, I can't do that because I take a highlighter and sticky notes to them, lol.
There's a reason physical media (like vinyls) are making such a huge comeback. I have some of my favorite albums on vinyl and I continue to collect the stuff I love. It's both a retaliatory statement but also an expression of myself
same, but i collect cassette tapes instead haha i have both old classics from the second hand shop and new bts and olivia rodrigo tapes, i find the cassette art to just be mesmerizing
You can buy MP3 as well and have it stored on a hard drive.
@@Gregoregatos So I'm Gen-X and I grew up with cassettes. I *do not* get the current love for them! That said, if you are into them, that's awesome. Just...confusing :D
Yeah, I collect vinyl, 78s, DVDs, CDs, and cassette tapes. You can transfer them on your PC and have them on your hard drive it's great.
@@johnchedsey1306 compared to Spotify subscriptions i think this is nice
When I was growing up in a Polish village, we used to share things with each other. 1 person had a computer, another one had a Pegasus console, 1 had a ball for football, another one had a ball for basketball. We were playing various games and sports as neighbours. Can you imagine now 1 in 4 teenagers having a Netflix subscription, so friends can come over after school and watch their favourite TV series together?
No😅😅😅😅
No I can’t imagine it even as a 36 years old person - but I kind of like it. Socializing. Needing and wanting to interact with your community. How human. How normal.
We did that when I was in high school. We'd all pitch in for 1 subscription between the 7 of us and everyone would come to my place after school and we'd watch GOT, TWD or whatever else was on that we wanted to watch.
@@Wakeupgrandowl Fellow 36 years old here. I have a group of friends who stream shows every few times in a week (it helps that we all live in different countries now). I have Netflix, another has Amazon, and then another has Disney+, etc, etc. It helps that we're all working adults but yes, you can make it work.
Same was in my Polish neighborhood :) At some point, there was only 1 TV for several households and people gathered to watch the only program that was playing at that time. Only some kids had a bicycle, so they shared with others, because it wouldn't be fun to just ride alone.
In the summer house, we have a "Monopoly" board game and everyone was coming to play together. I enjoyed that time very much.
At school, we shared comic books and clothes with friends.
Nowadays, every kid has a bicycle, games, toys, computer and smartphone, no need to share.
Stop getting subscriptions, it's just 10 bucks a month yes, but if you have 25 services sipping your money it's not worth it... Just bear with the ads in some of them and call it a day
I went to Target the other day and found a game I wanted to buy. The game was locked in a security clearance boxes. I was showing my boyfriend it and he pointed out that it was a digital copy! In small white print it said, “digital only.” Even when you are buying physical copies you still need to be careful.
My husband and I were just talking about this. Paying 60$ or whatever for a disk that it just a download that can be taken from you at any point even if you have the disk, is a wild concept 😂
@@christinevertrees682you are paying for the license not the disk
I hated this, it’s a waste of plastic. Just put it on a card if you’re not gonna bother putting physical media on it.
This can be fixed. Cancel streaming and Spend less time on your phone. Buy paper newspapers and magazines. Buy CDs, tapes, and vinyl. Go to the library. Companies won’t change until it hurts financially.
Buying physical media isn’t as expensive as you think. Newspapers and magazines do cost money but you end up with an object you can use as long as you wish and reuse or give away as you wish. You cannot do that with digital. Estate sales are full of great physical media on a budget. I am a Millennial and I am raising my kids to prioritize physical media. Be the customer that owns the product, not the renter of the product.
I agree with all of what you said, except that DVD's, CD's etc. can be a really unreliable purchase. I've had so many new ones not play properly. I started buying used from thrift stores, but even that isn't a guarantee. Plus, the space I would need to store all of these items is insane. I already don't even have room for my blender in the cupboard of our little 700 square foot home (all that we can afford). I only buy physical media for the things that I know I will use over and over, not because I'm opposed to physical media, but because I literally can't store it. I think a lot of lower income people gravitate towards or are forced into subscritpions for this reason. When you live in a studio apartment and will likely have to move and haul all of that media elsewhere the next time rent goes up, having all of that physical media isn't doing you any favors.
@@fairywingsonroses buy a DVDor CD case then?
Buy the movies and cds online as mp3s and mp4s and store them on a hard drive. Saves space.
This is the solution. My only subscription is Prime, and I would consider Nebula if I had enough time to actually watch through everyone I'm following on YT. That's about it. When I got tired of the ever-growing ad segments on Pandora and Amazon music 10 years ago, I realized I could budget the "only $5 per month for ad-free" towards buying CDs and digital downloads (.mp3's) for music. It lasts forever I have as long it's backed up on at least one hard drive. Also, open source apps are way underrated, being truly free software that you may not own the licensing on, but never paid for to begin with. Read real books, collect reference books relevant to your interests, take up a craft or outdoor hobby, learn a home diy skill every year. There is a vast world out there beyond the confines of the phone and it's way better, way more affordable.
Buying requires money, downloading requires bandwidth. Backup provides data security.
If your entertainment is only entertainment that time is wasted because it can be spent improving your knowledge and useful skills like DIY (which pays as well as every task you no longer pay someone else to do).
I think the rise of "minimalism" lead to some of this tbh. People feeling the weight of clutter from various collections and seeing a solution in subscriptions. DVDs to Netflix. CDs to Spotify. Large wardrobes to clothing rental services. Even large pantries to meal subscriptions like Hello Fresh. Just another form of consumption though.
the problem is not the lack of ownership imo. Theres bunch of stuff I dont own but my collective (my family, my friends, or my atelier) own. Why would I need a personal sewing machine if I just need to fix some clothes 3/4 times a year ? The problem is that we still live under capitalism and that corporations are putting everything in their power to make more profit and our quality of life do not bear any weight to them. I would love to share big tools with others and not personally own them but you just cant trust corporations to do that.
@@pinksapple Why do you need a corporation to hold your hand in sharing things with others?
Of course would they ask for a fee. Just go over to your neighbours and talk to them.
My friend owns a business. He interviewed a young lady for a job as office assistant. Her resume had 12 previous places of employment. She was only 22. That’s today’s youth.
As a millennial, I've always struggled. I've had so many life setbacks, and now I don't know that I will ever really be able to afford life going forward. I can't even imagine how hard it is for Gen-Z. At least my degree is paid for, and I have some job experience. It took so long to even get to that point. I'm currently looking into buying a home (which I can FINALLY do), but the only thing in my price range are condos that come with a lifetime of rising HOA fees. I definitely feel like the world has been stacked against low income people. Some "subscriptions" do feel like a "poor tax."
I’m convinced HOAs are a euphemism for “mandatory neighborhood subscription.” You may have to move further out of your desired area to find a home without a HOA, but it is worth it! Minimizing ongoing expenses like subscriptions is one of the best ways to keep a budget under control long-term.
@@ThatLittleTexanWoman Ironically, I'm currently living in a small town, where for that price I could get a home without an HOA (some of them are brand new and quite nice). The only issue is that there aren't any jobs here. If I'm going to take out a 30 year home loan, I need a job market that is stable enough to maintain a mortgage over the long term. Unfortunately, that job market is in a larger city where things are substantially more expensive. I recently decided that what I really want is stability and peace of mind, so going with a condo in an HOA isn't the worst option for getting what I want, but it is frustrating that more options aren't available at an affordable price point.
@@ThatLittleTexanWoman HOAs were originally just for maintaining communal facilities but they quickly became a way for racist people to keep people of colour out.
The poor tax is so real. I grew up pretty poor, and now live abroad in a country with a high quality of life and a low cost of living, so I get to see how the other side live. Why have I been offered so many freebies, discounts and upgrades?? It’s people who are struggling that really deserve all of that.
Keep not voting. Or vote Trump again. Get what you vote for
4:15 using steam as a subscription is the weirdest choice. Steam is the only service that doesn't really have a subscription. Xbox, Playstation, EA, Ubisoft all would've been much better choices as an example
i thought the same thing...
The games you buy on Steam are also licensed, so it is kinda right for it to be in the video
@@carlos150125yes but it’s also famously hard to lose games you bought on steam. I also think the European Union is currently working on something that will force game developers to leave games in a state of play even after they stop supporting it which might push companies to enact this worldwide
@@spisie130 yes, the European union has an iniciative about that, it is succeeding thankfully
@@spisie130 it could be the case because steam is private, not publicly traded. That mean they don't care about immediate growth. They prefere gaining your trust for, rather, long term profit where you will by from them again (like a normal business should function). As soon as there is a descision to port to public trading, all of these treatments will be gone to optimise and increase shareholder value assets as much as possible. Gabe single handedly saving gaming, for now. I think it's likely to change mid or long term tho
My current phone is obsolete, the updates stopped after 5 years. I own an S8+; I have been telling my kid to buy physical copies of games too, but that doesn't matter, the internet seems required to play all games now, due to updates. I am so glad I have my DVD and CD collection.
It is worse that just requiring the Internet. For most PC games and some console games, the disk is just the download key for the game. The installer will just link to the Internet and download the game off of a server to then install on your computer. There isn't anything real on the disk. 😢
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Samsung note 9 user here, planned on keeping this phone forever , babied it. But screen randomly started acting up. Supposedly Samsung released an update that bricked a lot of note 9 phones. Mines still barely limping along. Id love to see it re-released. Note 9 that is.
Times change, I'm 70 now, don't have a single subscription.
50/60 years ago, we made a picnic and a flask of coffee.
I rarely buy a coffee out, @ £4 !!
It's not that I can't afford it.
Buy CDs off ebay, very cheap, like DVDs.
Don't be a slave to the company store!
I just hate how some apps had a lot of free features and tools, and then they got updates that turned all those things into something you had to pay to use, or just added a lot of annoying and weird ADs. So now to use it you have to pay for "premium access" or a "free AD version", like, they made it worse so you have to pay for something good that you already had access to before.
Fr. Like I do virtual photography for fun and used this app Remini for editing them. Not it's and expensive subscription. I still have a cheap one because it glitches. So I pause it time to time. Trying to find another free one. I like the apps you can buy right out and skip the subscription.
AAGAGHHRR DUDE!!!! I started using this 3rd party mp3 player app on my phone when google music shut down. It had no ads, a ton of features, and it worked offline. They added ads, and paywalled a bunch of features. We've fot a city to burn.
That is actually a really good point, a lot of ads I've seen following the whole ban for ad blockers and the aggressive push for premium here on RUclips at least, it feels like a lot of ads are frequent, either long in duration without reason or very inappropriate and in bad taste.
RUclips and Netflix are my most annoying perpetrators of this. Total bonkers
*cough cough* youtube
I was born in 2003 and I grew up with a VHS in my room, books on my shelves, DVD player was 'fancy'. A lot, if not most of us in gen Z grew up with these things and a lot of us didn't get phones until 13-16 depending on households. I just want to get the freaking stereotype out of people's heads that we don't know what a freaking DVD player is, or that somewhere around our house we don't also have like 3 full DVD books with over 100 DVDs and CDs in each. Thank you, carry on.
You just described my childhood, lmao. I have no idea why people act like Gen Z doesn't know what DvDs and VHS is, especially older Gen Z.
I need to get my own DvD collection already.
2000s culture was just 90s culture dying and turning into whatever the hell this is now
03 as well. Didn’t get a phone till 14. I have bins of dvd’s and a couple vhs’s from growing up, and a year ago I ripped them all and backed them up to a media server I built. Then my mom without telling me threw them out. Even a month later and I would never have been able to get all those backed up digitally without sailing the high seas because of cost of dvd’s. I rip and/or download all my music, even if it’s a youtube-mp3, because I can’t stand not having all my music on my phone at all times. But unless the stuff gets thrown out, I at least get to keep all the media forever. The issue is a lot of movies that come out now don’t get dvd releases, they’re signed for digital streaming services only, or made by a streaming service so the only possible way to watch it is to have that service.
Ikr like I was born a year before you and I had a DVD player growing up and a flip phone (it wasn't a real phone tho just an old one my parents didn't use anymore and it wasn't on a plan/could access the old internet)
It's quite annoying. I grew up watching vhs tapes in my room. Heck, at the mall, some stores sell VHS tapes for the "retro" appeal. Owning hard covers of movies and books is always better than "owning" it on TV or on any app
Notice that the saying is not “We will own nothing…”
but rather “You will own nothing…” so…if we will own nothing….who will be the ones owning all the resources? 🤔
Good question!!!
It happens every time this way with communism
You don’t really know what communism is then. This is sheer capitalism at work just like planned obsolescence
@@MagpieMalonenot communism,
oligarchy.
@@spectre7006no definitely communism
In most parts of the world, when you buy a car, you own a car, when you buy two, you own two. When you own a house, you don’t get a knock on your door from whoever for any reason if you don’t want to. You get left ALONE. Oh why? Because you OWN it. Bring back one time fee
this is why I refuse to have subscriptions. I really hate ads interrupting my music so I just close the app and open it again so I don’t have to lol. I remember like 6 years ago Spotify had an add that for the price of a coffee you can have ad-free music and now Spotify is like $12….
To be fair, a coffee these days is like what 8 bucks at Starbucks lol
My peers and friends are shocked when they find out I cancelled Netflix, Disney +, Hulu, have never had a Spotify subscription and I go to the library and rent DVDs for $1 each. "You have a DVD player?!" Of course I do... you don't? How do you watch all the DVDs you bought in the early 2000s?
@@89gummybearsFr. I use a DVD player over a subscription anyday now.
Im so bitter about it, too. I only have about 3 total media subscriptions and just don't partake in the rest out of spite. I can not handle all of the different companies begging for money.
Pssst.... a staggering amount of popular professional music is on SoundCloud... if you loop a song it'll never even try to give you an ad... and if you do get an ad, turn on airplane mode and you can skip it
Even when you buy something it's almost always a digital download.
something something license (yes it is very very stupid I’m not trying to justify it)
Can't even rip it to CD or DVD anymore because most new computers now don't even have the optical drive 😢
You can download into USB or Hard drive
@@trulyirrelevant17 it's basically that you're paying for the license to watch/play/read the media, but not actually OWNING the media itself.
@@MagpieMalonethat’s why I got an external one so I can listen to my dad’s massive cd collection while im on the game ❤
So much to talk about here. As a Zillenial, I truly believe it's the fact that we were raised to be consumers. Even if our parents had skills to pass down to us that would save us money during hard financial times, they instead opted for convenience. And our boomer/Gen X parents hate the idea of us struggling like they did, but I feel like due to that coddling they've set us up to struggle even more under late stage capitalism. Example of conveniences, they ordered out instead of teaching us to cook at home. They always bought new things instead of attempting repair, whether it was tech or clothing. They caved under the pressure to lease our smartphones and made sure we had the newest one instead of buying an old model outright. I don't say this to come down on Boomers/Gen X, but instead to say they were also manipulated by corporations into not valuing the skills that took hard work. Instead they were convinced that proof of being rich was not working hard, and they were willing to buy the facade of a rich life through debt, just so they'd feel good. I think the solution for Gen Z and Millenials is to get rid of the notion that we're deserved an easy life, and do the hard work of holding corporations accountable for the messes of our world they've made while building up our communities and skillsets to opt of corporations' manipulative structures.
Late stage capitalism isn't even a thing yet. It's going to get so much worse. I'm not a leftist btw just a realist
Boomers struggled lmfao we have 86% purchasing power than they did at our age...
My xennial parents repaired my clothes all the time, I never got the newest model of any tech (I was always at least 3 models behind - I’ve only had 3 phones, one was my mom’s old 5, then the iPhone 5SE when the newest model was the X, now I have the 13 mini and the newest is the 15) until I started paying for it myself. We only ever ate out once a month at most, and even then it was always a restaurant not take out. My parents invested my into the stock market without my consent when I was 16 after opening a bank account in my name without asking me. My grandparents took out bonds for my college fund. What kind of parents did you have that they bought you all the latest tech??
My parents always bought themselves all the new items, but I was never allowed them unless I was paying for it.
@ I'm confused if you mean more or less purchasing power. Let me know :)
@@giannasmith3200 my fault 86% less
Recently, I've been trying to become more of a minimalist in my life. Less stuff to own, fewer accounts online. I also try to really concentrate when I go shopping, only buy what I NEED & not what I WANT. Just to help declutter, reduce stress and save money.
I can tell you. It works.
I use an AAC device for communication and am in community with many who do. My program cost $50 for a flat one time fee. Very suddenly and without warning, the provider emailed everyone saying they were doing away with this and switching to a $10/month subscription fee effective immediately. Anyone who had bought the program wouldn’t be impacted, but all future users would be. It boils my blood that a bunch of board members who are not reliant on AAC to communicate turned around and told people “Actually jk, it now will cost you $120 a year to be able to speak. But at least our shareholders are happy!”
This is a common problem for tech products with a small, niche market. Saturation. If they just tell their product then they swiftly reach the point where everyone who could potentially want the product has purchased it, and sales drop to practically nothing. The obvious solution for the business is to move to subscription. Other sectors can't so easily do that because they don't have the enabling technology to enforce it.
@@vylbird8014 Which is only a problem because they want infinite growth for the sake of growth. Just make a new version that people want to buy, or go make something else to sell while just maintaining the saturated software.
This is SOOO fucked! It's an accessibility tool uughhhh
@@vylbird8014 They cited the problem as "third party sellers" who were getting the program out at a cheaper price. There will always been people born who need AAC for one reason or another, and many people can become AAC dependent later in life. Many AAC programs have a flat, one-time fee. Tobiidynavox saw a means of exploiting disabled folx like myself and took it
Imagine, if they'd say "You will pay at least $1200 for 10 years of using our app instead of $50 one time, what do you choose". That's crazy
The problem facing Gen Z is that you were raised to not know any better. You were raised in a disposable, throw away world and that’s likely all you will ever know. You can’t demand an alternative because you’ve never known the alternative. Capitalists can sell you houses and cars made of plastic because you are the legacy of several generations of convenience seekers that refuse to look under the hood or check the plumbing and foundation before buying…because nobody understands how these things actually work and most consumers will continue to buy substandard products they know are substandard than admit they are incompetent and don’t understand the nature of things.
Capitalists owning houses are a small minority
i mean what kind of cars actually last. Toyotas way less reliable these days. how do you buy an actual good product when they refuse to offer one...
@@jimchoy6764 Pretty sure every property developer is a capitalist.
@@alanj9978 if by capitalist you mean wealthy person than no not every property developer is a capitalist
@@tay_paradoxessentially you have to buy older things. Or become an inventor/entrepreneur and create the things you want to see. Neither are easy or perfect choices, but it’s essentially what we have for now.
Don't forget about hidden subscriptions:
Phones - even if you buy the phone the updates will make it barely operable after 2 years. Ultimately forcing you into a 24 month "subscription" for each phone purchased.
Appliances - one day after the 3 year warranty those televisions or fridges might bugout. If you pay 600 for a TV that you have to replace every 3 years, that's a $200 a year subscription.
Everything has a manufacturer scheduled 'end of life's date planned so that you do need to re buy the same thing within 3-5 years. My grand parents had appliances and household items that last 10+ years.
My toaster was given to a family member as a wedding present in 1970 and has outlived every replacement that the original owner subsequently bought, bar one.
I do hear this argument a lot, but no one I know buys appliances like this. My phone is 4 years old, my tv is 6 years old, my speaker is 12 years old, my laptop is 8 years old, so on and so forth. Do they have all the functionality and speeds of new tech? Well, obviously not. Do some of them have little quirks? Well, of course. But they all function and I’ve saved thousands by accepting slower tech that maybe needs to have a wire fiddled with once in awhile. The same is true of most my friends, we just simply do not participate in this whole replacement economy, and if something does break, we absolutely do not buy new tech.
@@mauraburke3726 I'm sure anecdotally there are cases. My TV does after 7 years, but I spent over $2k on it new so my annual price is still too high. Laptops I use for work and are unusable after 3 years based on the work I do and the system needs after each upgrade. The point is that devices are being built with a pre-determined EOL to force replacement. You might get lucky here and there, but when something does out of warranty the cost to repair might be more expensive than a replacement.
such a waste of resources ( on top of being very annoying
There are some things that feel like they happen, but don't.
Planned obsolescence is definitely a thing, but it's not as widespread as that. I have a new phone, yes, but that was because I needed more RAM for stuff I did, my old phone (5 years old) still works just fine and I still use it often enough to carry both.
If you know how to fix things, price suddenly drops a LOT, too.
My family's freezer broke and we almost replaced it, but what happened was the coolant pipes just had an ice buildup. Once we got rid of the ice, it worked just fine. My car's fuel pump broke, but I fixed it for $50 because I only had to buy the pump instead of paying for a mechanic. The dryer broke, that was a $30 part. The washer had a water buildup, just clogged by stickers from jars.
This should be a @TED talk video. Very well said. Well done Ashley.
I was already aware of this issue, but you have made me really consider how I am spending money, and the value of real tangible products vs online subscriptions.
Thanks for lighting a fire under me!
I find it WILD that HP tried to limit the amount of pages you can print. Like, what? I haven't used their printers in over a decade, I snapped after I bought the original HP cartridge (which is insanely expensive compared to other companies) and that printer refused to recognize it. I got rid of that thing, got myself a Brother device and haven't looked back.
Most of my fellow computerheads use Brother. HP was once gloriously well built until Carly Fiorina murdered it.
Printer ink is a rare case of things kind of getting better. HP has a subscription model which is generally worse than buying the small cartridges but brother and epson both have printers with large, refillable ink tanks which is a better option than back when the only ink was small, non-refillable cartridges.
@@Comm0ut I still use my cheap HP from 2010, cartridge is also cheap
I’m a gen Z and I’ve been seeing countless videos like these “physical media is coming back” “you don’t own anything” “streaming services are the best”
And through all these videos I’ve learned that it’s up to us to balance it out, get the DVDs of your favorite movies, and instead of playing for Disney plus put it in savings
Your video was one of the more hopeful and well phrased. Thank you for this amazing video!
How much do you spend on DVDs?
@@ariel1998cit depends, most of the time I’m just buying my favorite albums new so I pay full price. (Most between $10-20) But I also get really cheap ones at thrift stores or eBay. ($1-10) So in all it doesn’t amount to a lot
@@hannahanthony2054 How many albums do you pay per month?
Also, the good thing about physical media is that they’ll be the things that we and our time will be remembered by. What if all digital stuff just goes out and can be fixed? All that information will be lost!
I'm gonna state that most physical media ever produced has been lost to time. Physical media sucks for storage. How much luck was needed for us to have the Rosetta stone.
@ true but if we were to have a total blackout or some other disaster that led to the inaccessibility of our digital media then physical media might at least still preserve something.
Then we’d have to see whether we could store or copy that remaining media with the means we’d still have then.
The problem with new cars is that when you buy from a dealer you pay more than it costs (i.e.inflation) and as soon as you leave the dealer it will drop its price in case you want to sell back.
Millennial here. I'm really glad this is being talked about. I feel like it's really easy for inter generational struggles to fall by the wayside and go overlooked. I've tried having talks with my boomer dad about these things and he's still stuck in his growing up mentality of the 1970s/1980s where things were way different and there was way more possible. Now I'm pushing 40 and yeah, I hear about these struggles gen z is having, but it's not really super affecting me because I'm 14 years into the workforce, mid-level, and don't really do the subscription thing. Inflation didn't really hurt me all that badly. But This video gives very specific evidence backed statements about why/how gen z is struggling. If my boomer father can't relate to my struggles, his generation who just refuses to give up the reigns of power definitely won't understand your struggles.
17:46 "You're not aloud to make a copy of your DVD."
Maybe I haven't read the latest version of fair use, but last I remember you are aloud to make a copy of a DVD you purchased. You can make 2 backup copies for yourself.
Allowed
Yeah, and the suggestion that a computer copying some bytes of a movie into RAM during playback is somehow violating copyright is absolutely insane. I'm no legal expert but I don't see how that can possibly be correct. You still use RAM when you're streaming!
Usually you are not allowed to make copies, because the companies are afriaid you'll sell them at a much cheaper price then them and you as a consumer get rich off of what they put money into.
Just to be clear : I'm not one of them. I don't care what you copy and how you distribute those copies. I'm just telling you what the corporations and law makers are thinking.
@ thanks friend allowed
Allowed
I didn’t believe my eyes when I got a new printer and I had to pay for more pages I printed, even though I supplied the paper??? Things changed from my childhood man.
we still have a laser printer from around 2006 i think abd it still works perfectly
The subscription monster really hit me a few months ago when I wanted to watch my favorite movie “The Goonies”. Even with all the subscriptions my family has nowhere had the Goonies for free, I found my CD for it. Spent the next 30 minutes finding all the cables and hooking it up.
I’m slowly building back up my CD collection and cancelled half of my subscriptions
If I can’t own, I won’t pay. Pirating and self sustainability is the way to go 👏
I am chilean and I have a friend in the US who refuses to move in with me because she thinks she needs money. Shes a software engineer and earns twice what I make, with what I make you live like a king here in Chile, imagine her. But shes too scared of making the jump, when I literally explained to her that Chile is a way better option for her to live right now than the US, she could own a house, car and be safe.
South America safe? At least safer than first world countries? I am not so sure about that
@@dorjjodvobatkhuu6457 There are things called neighborhoods if you don't know, the guy/gal who commented seem pretty well financially and probably can afford living in a safe and wealthy area, y'all really think the entirety of South America is crime and drugs? What about the O-blocks in USA? All the USA is like that?
It's literally my dream to move to Mexico.... Working towards getting a remote job and moving over there
But is your friend an American citizen who will give up her citizenship for that or rather- for you (being you're only friends)
@@dorjjodvobatkhuu6457 he is comparing it to the US which is basically a third world country if you don't have a lot of money
I collect vinyls, but at the same time, I have an old 5th gen Ipod that I paid about 200$ to upgrade and restore. I pirate all of my MP3's. I will never be dropping another cent on my digital music again.
Sorry not to sound preachy but a good rule of thumb I personally use is if it's less than 5 years old, please try and get it off bandcamp first if you can afford it 🫶🏻
That's really sad for the artists, though. I think they deserve to make money from their art.
@Human_Earthling They don't get anything from mp3 sales. If you really care about a band buy their merch.
@@polpot5471 They get royalties from digital downloads.
Don't admit to anything online. Imagine this being used against you in the future by the government to compel you.
I have been following you since before you had kids and have to say how HAPPY I am for! Watching your evolution has been so fun and inspiring. Your analyses are incredible. Mostly just want to say congrats on your success. But I also wanted to suggest that you add in how your own biases (eg how you were raised, where you’re from, race, class) might influence these videos. As impartial as you are, we are all impacted by these aspects of our identity/experience and I think it would be an interesting part of the convo.
I was in this same predicament this week buying cars too. Almost Every car under $8k had like 170k+ miles. After walking to work in 20 degree weather for like 2 weeks. I finally found a decent car under 10k with low miles. I put 5k down and only took out a 2k loan. I do see alot of people getting cars that are like 30k paying like 400 a month with like 20% interest with a minimum wage income, it's not smart and it's gonna trap you in a vicious cycle and possibility of the repo man coming for you. Alot of people just need to try to live within their means. That was something I had to learn. I really feel it fot my for my fellow gen z it's rough.
Got a 2011 ford explorer for 150,000 miles for 12k. Paid it off in a year making 17 an hour (was tight but I was not taking a payment into a new apartment rental) Now it’s just upkeep. In my area there’s nothing under 10k. I know i overpaid cause it’s only taxed at 8k. It sucks out here.
@adriannaedwards6281 yeah totally get that. I ended up getting a 2008 honda fit with 130k miles. I'm glad I saved up money the year before because I would have been SOL with having to take out a loan.
@ Honda fits are amazing!!! My grandma had one till a deer fell from the sky and destroyed the engine 😂 she swears by the Fit though!
@adriannaedwards6281 omg that's insane 😭😭 I'm glad she's alright. But yeah I love Hondas I'll probably have this thing until 300k miles with the way the economy is looking lmao.
@ oh she’s all good 😂 the pictures were insane. But yeah, take good care of the car and it too can last till a deer destroys it lmao!
A movie I wanted to watch on Netflix was moved to Hulu. I cancelled Netflix and signed up to Hulu. A few months later it was moved back to Netflix. I decided to just buy a blu ray player and the movie. I now have a decently sized collection of dvds, blu rays, and box sets.
Also, what is the "$9.99 for videogames" about? I've never paid for my steam account.
PS Plus and Xbox Live give you free games along with it. Xbox has Game Pass with a huge library, and PS Plus has a rotating library. But you lose access if you unsub
Xbox gamepass is actually a good value
@@Hllokttygrll it is. Well if you play a lot of different games that is.
dvds stay even in apocalypse, going to do the same
How do you play them? Lol
The scary part? Once you read The Secret Doctrine of Wealth, you realize how much of your life you’ve been wasting. But the good part? It’s not too late to change.
this book is goated
Who's the author?
Blaming systemic problems on the individual, how cute
Yeah, everything will be solved by reading a freaking book. Corporations hate this one trick!
@@Bramble20322 Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos when Ellen the soccer mom reads a book on manifesting and creates a scammy MLM: 🤯🤯🤯
Another factor you missed is manufactured 'annoyances' that are added simply to convince you to upgrade to a more expensive option. The most clear examples currently are in video games, like limiting how many items you can carry but you can pay to carry / store more for $$. It doesn't cost them anything to allow you to carry more items, but you'll pay to remove a restriction that's been added simply to gouge more cash out of you.
A real-world example would be Amazon prime video adding adverts to movies/tv shows when you already pay for prime, but you can go 'Ad-free !' if you pay them even more. I am sure there are many other examples of this and I can see it being an area of growth that greedy companies will focus on.
It’s possible to not trap yourself. I never did and am doing okay. You can easily save money, invest, and buy what you want later in life. Honestly, subscriptions, debt, sports gambling, and bad financial decisions in general are what’s keeping me ahead of my peers.
"easily save money". cute.
I work in a factory and find it relatively easy to save money also. I’m not that ahead but I’m definitely not paycheck to paycheck. People that I work with who make my same wage or upwards of $3 more an hour struggle to pay rent sometimes even (even though they have cheaper rent than me). Constantly making terrible avoidable financial decisions.
The person I’m talking about is actually my mom she makes like $24 an hour and can’t afford $100 once a month for my baby sisters therapy
@@johnchedsey1306 Yea it’s pretty easy. You spend less than you make. If you don’t then you are already losing.
Depends. I mean I've avoided the PCP trap or a car for instance but I can't exactly avoid the mortgage trap and that's with me being lucky to even have a mortgage
I don't own my house, the bank does, until I've paid the mortgage off.
4:10 - steam does not charge a subscription fee for using it, you just pay for the games. now, that is a digital download and steam itself has its own form of DRM so once Steam is dead, the games are. so not much better than xbox gamepass but at least you can keep the games without paying monthly.
Steam has stated in the event of shutting down they would release a patch to remove their DRM. I believe them to be true to their word. They are owned privately and not publicly traded. So they don't have shareholders to continually increase their profit numbers to satiate.
@ThemanlymanStan that makes me smile, thank you
I was about to say the same thing!
I buy from GOG, there you own the games.
I've started using GOG (Good old games) for this exact reason
I inherited my dad’s EPIC vinyl collection when he passed away. It made me feel closer to him knowing the music that nurtured him through good times and bad. What will we leave our children? Our passwords for our subscriptions?
I went to replace a thermometer that I’ve had since I was a baby, bought the closest thing I could find to it in person, opened it up and turned it on and was told to download an app for it.
I’m livid. I’m boiling alive. Take me out of this hell
Started collecting CDs,DVDs & Blurays when I noticed music was low def playing through a bluetooth speaker. And when my favorite movies were removed from certain streaming services. Feels good and secure to physically own them and have the freedom to enjoy them whenever wherever.
How much are you paying?
@@ariel1998cownership is priceless
We also purchase physical media. MUCH better quality, and no subscription crap.
Maybe the best course of action is to start a trend where we live and interact with our communities again 💜 we’re being kept overwhelmed and scared to see that we have more options and don’t have to all ride on the next big trend.
this
A major implication of this situation is that our monthly living expenses are changeable on the whim of a corporation not by our own spending choices. In order to maintain the collections you think you have access to.... You must pay whatever the company raises the subscription price to. This makes long-term financial planning as well as monthly household budgeting extremely difficult.
If they keep people poor and stressed then they have fewer revolts to worry about heh
@@3nertiaThis... do people not realise that?
@ Most people never realize anything lol. The system has cultivated an army of obedient drones and has successfully weaponized stupidity lol
And what’s worse is the amount for these subscriptions keeps going up and up. We switched cause cable was too expensive, now it’s becoming just as expensive. Not even worth it anymore.
My partner and I are 20
Our rent is 3,000 AUS a month
We only have enough money to buy food every few days - let alone car payments and bills
We both work hard and we both do our best but we are barely surviving
The world is ridiculous
After watching this, I formulated a real messed up take. I'm 44 with a 22 year old daughter. She's doing well in college. I'm lifelong poor. I tried. I have two master's degrees but chronic disability keeps me unemployed. With the absolute insanity/horror of USA policy, I feel like I am dying a death of despair. I rely on government benefits to exist and I cannot make it, in the job market to sustain myself. My take is that no matter how horrible this is and gets, I have to stay alive in order for my daughter to have shelter. In order for the cycle of poverty to not keep going with her. Thank you so much for the great work you did on this! And I am so sorry, my Canadian friend! I'm on of the good ones and I'm so sorry for the BS.
I grew up in the 70s/80s and life was fantastic,wonderful and full of freedom. Now,not so much. The days of drive-ins,12 cent comic books,99 cent action figures and no hoarding of media were FAR superior...Life was bliss...Nowadays id horrible. I basically live on nostalgia. There is nothing of substance today...I'd go back in a second...
I think each era has its pluses. I grew up in the 70s and 80s too, and tv series are much, much better now, that’s where all the screenwriting talent has gone and you have access to great tv from all over the world. Same with music, there is some great new music happening and you can find anything you want. It’s incredible. Plenty of substance, you just have to look for it. Which the internet makes easy!
Indeed. And what amazing new novies we got robocop terminator terminator 2 alien aliens. Predator/2
Yeah I wouldn't want to go back to all of it, just some of it...
I just remember how boring it was before. My mind has grown faster with access to more information than the local library used to offer. Getting to find like minded people on internet around the world to talk about odd, niche things I would have never been able to find in my local population, etc. Online stores with lots of options for the things you need that are so hard to find in a physical store locally too!
Sure I agree I miss the economy being better and the country being more chill and okay. It was nice that life moved a wee bit slower...but there were a lot of downsides to it too. My parents were divorced and I was always shuttled back and forth between homes at least once or twice a week. As an adult I have a stable home environment and security. I love the access and info internet offers. But I would love to go back to have my youthful body back before I was injured.
I also think that a lot of what we miss from being younger isn't the era per se, it is more the feeling of being young, and life being new and exciting. I am sure if you asked 55yr olds back in the 70s/80s they would have said the same thing about how much better "the old days" were, and a lot of it was their youth before real life and living sunk in and wore them out with age.
Truth.
Yes I live the 80's everyday. Can't stand life now. Living in the past is the only way I can deal.
23 and bought a house here in Alaska. 200,000 after 20,000 down. Only reason I could do that was living with a family friend that didn’t charge rent or bills. That was after two incomes and heavily saving for roughly 3 years. We lived in a basement, and only came out to do anything when it was summer.
Young people need to learn to fight back. Lol, I lead a full digital life, listen and download music, read books, I am a designer using a ton of programs and I have O subscriptions. There are one time purchase options for nearly everything. Adobe never got a single subscription dollar from me.
respect
Affinity?
@@whatev2453 affinity, capture one for photo library, blender for 3d, davinci resolve for vid. All one time payment or free…
Yeah, F Adobe
@@marsrii4372 I've realized from talking to the people here that they don't have a concept of free. It's so ingrained in them to spend money that they don't see the irony of her having a sponsor. This is just the new version of Che t-shirts for people who don't understand a problem and have no intention to fight.
I've started buying cds and vinyl back in Covid. I'm glad that I did this because now it's cool seeing the items that I own. I think we need to go back to buying physical products again everything being digital is starting to become a problem.
Years ago I lost my Facebook account that had irreplaceable photos and messages from highschool and my early adult years. One day I tried signing in and was told I had to upload a government issued ID to do so. I thought it was some fishing malware so I didn't. I'm angry that all those memories are gone, but its taught me to not get attached to anything I can't hold.
I'm so sorry
Memories aren't in pictures. They are in your mind and in your heart. Before the camera, do you think people didn't have memories? I do understand where you coming from. My old Facebook got deleted. I lost 14 years of pictures, conversations, etc. But that's where I realized the things that mattered, I remembered. People have forgotten that their memories aren't pictures. They are part of you
Id be willing to bet money that your stuff isnt gone permanently. Facebook probably has it backed up somewhere. Id highly doubt that any account fully gets deleted.
@@evilweevle maybe so. I do agree, but that doesn't do me any good since it was set up with an old hotmail account and I don't remember the password. I do know I'm never scanning my drivers license or any ID and giving that info to a social media account.
Last year I started buying cds again. It’s so gratifying honestly. If one of my family member plays a song I have on cd I always yell “I HAVE THAT ON CD!!”
I feel guilt for owning physical books for the space (minimalism and decluttering being pushed), and paper waste so buy audiobooks or Kindle, and occasionally second hand books. Amazon own most of my media in terms of books and movies, they could all disappear.
The paper industry is sustainable. They have to keep planting their own trees in order to harvest to make the paper product.
Go to a library... I found out that my library offers e-books and audiobooks too. Sure, not all of them but if an average library in Czech Republic can have that, I'm pretty sure libraries in the US could have that too :)
In Germany we have cabinets for used books all over the cities since a few years. Have found lots of great books there for free. If you have read your books and don't want to keep them, don't have enough space at home or think "thos book should be read by more people", you bring them to one of those cabinets and another person will be happy. :)
BNPL option is not only being used by Gen Zers. My elderly Boomer landlady remarked that a $256 designer purse was “only $51 a month” when watching one of the shopping networks this week. And she’s 81!!
I was arguing with someone few years ago. we were talking about car ownership, and I commented that eventually we won't be having cars at all, we would simply be having a yearly subscription of renting car. being a car salesman he is, he insisted. "it's not subscription, it's leasing! and you have the option to sell back the car at a guaranteed price for a new car in three years."
Yeah well now they want to ban cars and make you rent a self-driving cab to go anywhere. Good some of the time. Bad when you really really need a car, like in any emergency.
a fridge with a subscription is downright criminal
So don't subscribe. Why is it so hard? Learn hardware and software. Own everything that is personal for you. Buy books, disk drives, backups and save everything that you love. Movies, music, books, games, pictures, videos, etc save everything. How large is your collection? Hardware is cheap if s/w labor is you. Subscription model had been around for very long. When i started buying the cds of my favorite movies / shows some people laughed at that. Now those same people are complaining about subscription.
Yall need to Google WEF AGENDA 2030 AND FKING STOP IT
Facts
9:22 another thing I’m getting tired of is RUclipsrs selling us stuff. Is anyone even authentic anymore?
I’m so over that
Subscription base for information like let me pay you 100$ and be done
In this economy? Nah. Everyone needs more money.
I get it but people need to eat, especially if you want them to have enough time to make content
@420Gandalf It doesn't cost money to make content. It costs money to make a product. She can talk into a camera for free.
@@RussOlson-h4qshe cannot buy bread for free and her time has to cast money otherwise her bills will crush her
I’m printing my photos. I’m doing a selection right now but ALL my memories are either on the cloud or on social media. Someone else can just stop offering that service and I wouldn’t have any picture from my own life
Best position to be in is to not need anything and finding alternative solutions.
15:22 What an insightful take on our dwindling grasp on our most prized possessions.. the information we consume nowadays are truly at the hands of those we subscribe to.
This just decreases our ability to pass down information to our kin, let alone the power to verify correct information as we initially received it.
One day history can just change up and we wouldn’t even have the means to verify whether it’s even real or accurate, or just made up to fulfill the intents and purposes of big corporations.
Wow. 😢
Never thought of that. Scary
This all started with the 30-year mortgage. We’re literally mortgaging our future; pretty sure thats from a book or a movie I don’t actually own.
You’re not mortgaging anything because you’re not building equity nor ownership. You are actually renting your future and will have nothing to show for it when you stop paying the monthly fees.
@ ah, yea thats probably better analysis. I still think the 30-year has done a ton of cultural/economic damage.
What was the option before the thirty year mortgage?
@@terrisserose a market that was living within its actual housing boundaries. Instead the 30-year allowed for folks to get into generational debt for the idea they could then sell to fund their retirement or leave to children for wealth gain. It has led to people being politically averse to risk because it may upset the market their only wealth is tied up in; it has also ruined class solidarity as people moved away from urban centers and everyone has their own ‘castle’.
Now if anything happens to disturb the market or what Wall Street was doing in the early 2000s and all of sudden people have nothing, nothing but debt.
@@terrisseroseviolent revolution. The only reason we ever got the limited economic security of the 50s and a couple decades after, was the threat of communism rising abroad. Now that’s been quashed those in charge just want to bleed everyone dry like they did in the 19th c.
I go to a local cafe and they have Buy Now Pay Later option upon checkout. If you cannot afford a coffee by just paying for it, leave the cafe. This is just insane that we have this option for a cup of coffee that’s $5
I’m 19 and in college and I absolutely remember having physical media for most of my life. I had a DVD and VHS player in my bedroom when I was younger. Idk why people always think that Gen Z didn’t grow up with these things.