I wish you guys the best! I wish I was a billionaire so I could get you guys to the finish line, along with Aptera which is another EV startup with a mission I believe in. Huge changes in the auto industry ongoing, which is a good thing. Tesla lit a fire under their feet and many more are helping. Keep it going!
It’s my guess that you work for canoo or are hired by them and work closely with the canoo team. If true could you start doing some short/long interviews with people who know about the production line, time lines for product release, and any other behind the scenes info they are willing to provide. I’m sold on the vehicle. The promos are cool. I want to know when I can buy one…in Canada. Thx, have a great day.
I do not work for nor am I sponsored by Canoo, but I would love to be or work directly with them I have plans to try and get into interviewing canoo peeps but as of now, I am letting them focus on getting to production, they are operating all hands on deck
The self-righting is a major thing. They're like the old kids toy slogan for Weebles. "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down". ;) If I can comfortably afford one of these things when they come out I'm absolutely getting one.
@@Katchi_ I get the feeling you didn't actually watch the video. The roll back is not even remotely a snap back. Its a very slow, easy return to the upright position. No-one has to climb up to get out the other side. Just open the door and drag the person to safety if they are not able to get out on their own.
Lovin It! HOWEVER, I am concerned what that curved windshield is going to cost me as State Farm does not cover cracked glass. My Winnebago windshield is $4000.00USD !!!!!!!!! I wish I had known that before I bought, I would have chosen a 2 piece windshield model. !
@@wheresPaunch ya, the Canoo could have all the bell and whistles in the world with the perfect crash, performance, triple A test score but if it's over $50k tax credit. It's unsellable to the middle class
@wheresPaunch either and both. But I still have to say my biggest concern with all EVs is distance availability. I have stated many times on multiple Canoo sites that since Canoo has touted its truck ad the local handyman or business truck as well as a neat little truck to take camping, I have been calling for Canoo to also develope a sled that is free wheeling with the same battery underneath as the vehicle. Turn that sled into a landscape trailer, an enclosed trailer, a pop-up camper, etc. This way, you double the mileage and/or allow for more electrical usage. I don't know about you, but I don't go down the street to go camping. And when I used to own my own landscaping company, the amount of around town travel I would do along with the amount of gas I used on mowers, trimmers, edgers, etc was a lot. All of thise gas products are now available in chargeable battery form. But charging so many batteries to coincide with mileage used by the vehicle can reach that vehicles limit. I know we need trucks on the road first. But I just think it's a missed market as well as an item that can place the Canoo above all other EV trucks to the local business.
@@revparisking I’ve seen a render of a pull along skateboard/trailer in a Canoo pitch deck, so they’ve put enough thought into to draw it up. I’ll see if I can find it again and throw it up on Twitter
Makes perfect sense .. A true all round familly/utility vehicle in Crew cab and bus form with adaptable seating. And Aptera for fun driving and long distance commuting. Popping to the shops running errands and as a backup for when you have the Canoo being serviced or get a double puncture. Now if canoo had also designed in a swappable battery pack system as per Nio. You would have a truly sustainable product able to quickly replace new improving battery tech like Blade cells and Na ion, Li S, Al S Tech. Which are already proving Safer more temp stable and showing faster C rates longer life spans and ultimately looks like Al S 10 times the capacity. All the resources are far more available, easy to source produce and recycle than Li. The other issue is E motors that use permanent magnets..and Magnet rare earths ... There are alternatives...you dont even need to use copper windings. Permanent magnet motors are vulnerable to heat and vibration demagnetisation. Company's like Advanced Electric Machines 🇬🇧 and a German Molabo, company have already developed very efficient and powerful compact motor ranges round easily recycled none permanent magnet motors Using Al and Steel.. better still switch them off and they are 100% safe and have 0 drag or Cogging. Technology evolves alternative e technology is mushrooming.... Best follow Prof Donald Sadoway's maxims and if you want it to succeed best make it simple, cheap and globally available.
I want a track built bullet, 1 skateboard , set some records, a beefed regen😂 axial brake if you will, reduced gears from an output shaft from 1 specd with an output 2nd shaft motor
I like what you are doing. I wish you could solve the towing distance problem EV's have. Even if it costs load ability (like only having a 5000 pound towing capacity).
Towing is going to be a hard issue to solve without big external range extender battery packs….Canoo has shown off a towable trailer that uses a skateboard so in theory the trailer would double your range without a load
@@wheresPaunch I've always wondered if there was other ways, like using a transmission. Tesla is "kind of doing" that with their clutched second motor on the semi. Although that is overkill in comparison to a transmission. For every day driving you dont need gears however add in a load or trailer it could be the solution? The extra battery in the bed is one too. Can Canoo tow a 4000 boat safely? Its a smaller truck with smaller wheels.
The solution is to fit a modern ultra efficient compact generator like the University of Durhams free contra piston twin generator... Toyota refined it to a point where it's only 50cm long about 20wide and 18deep.. producing over 24kw.. best run off something like biofuel or Methanol using CO2 from the air and bound to hydrogen from water using the new nano coated water repelling catalysts that also reduce the temp and energy required to produce it... though you burn it your essentially recycle the Carbon dioxide via the atmospheric extraction ...your burning hydrogen mostly to produce water again. Take a look at Edison motors DIY electric logging truck using a CAT generator charging a smaller battery pack ...running at its Stoichiometric optimum it uses half the fuel less pollution. Can be switched off and its lighter and more powerful than a conventional rig. So use it as a rage extender charging the batteries on the longer grades or whilst accelerating the towed load ...down hill regen helps cut down wear on the brakes as they found with topsy..as its called. The other option is to take a leaf from bycicles and trains and now trucks again and fit a powered trailer with its own power system and a load sensing hitch or kingpin third wheel.. pull and it drives break slightly and it goes into regen breaking before even having to break hard. It can carry its own compact generator and fuel or just the plug in battery.. The power it contributes is akin to what they term a bobcat haul ie. no more than is already in the tow vehicle. See the Edison guys and also Range Truck trailers. Way back in Nimh days Toyota did a towable generator unit for range extending the little SUV 4x4 they developed. The advances in tech mean now you can tow an big load longer... and safer ..for the bicycle version see the Danish Carla 3 wheel power trailer that can be unhitched from any bike and led by the tow bar On foot payload is 400lb 🤔if i remember and its got about a two meter load bed. 😎🧙♂️🇬🇧 Hitched up to a Dutch long john electric cargo bike you can deliver a small bars worth of kegs and bottled drinks crates across a town without breaking into a sweat going up hill and down ..
I hope to get an electric pickup truck to tow an RV and am very interested in the Canoo Pickup truck. Looking at the Pebble Flow with tow assist via power wheels. This should minimize range impact. There is also the Lightship RV with similar features.
@@robinpettit7827 Its an old idea that has found its use again a lot of detachable Caravans ..RVs are so large that owners fit them with so called walking powered tow hitch wheels to manoeuvre them without the vehicle or re hitch them . Keeping the tow vehicle as light as practical is important as most of the time its used as a separate vehicle... it also introduced the problem of tow vehicle break limits. The self contained pull to push and push to brake hitch is interesting as I imagine if reverse is engaged the signals to the trailer unit also have to be reversed🤔 So it works for bicycles up to to trains. Seems like thats good enough to give it a chance.. The company i linked to als state that the trailor having its own power means that refrigerated units can be left running overnight without the noise of ICE powered compressors keeping everyone awake. Any hybrids liquid fueled generator. Needs to be small easy format, light ultra efficient and simple to make maintain and quiet... The electric motors are the device doing the moving ... the batteries in a light vehicle would supply the energy but the generator needs to be adequate to extend the range or offset towing loads. In remote area use they need to be able to Keep up with the motors typical running demands. Plug in Recharging from say a stand alone flow battery based Solar/renewable charge station is going to be cheaper than most liquid fuels for the forceable future. If you have big flatish surfaces like a roof and bonnet or trailer roof ....given printed solar panels why not cover them in cells... for commercial user's it would probably reduce costs and maintain the system when the vehicle and or towed trailer is left standing or out on the road. The Australians have made some notable breakthroughs in this field...
What are the odds we will ever be able to buy one of these? I don’t think Tesla would have ever made it without its first vehicle being based on an already existing chassis.
@@wheresPaunch If they do, will they hang around? Most of these new folks will not. I really like the design and philosophy displayed by the car, but the vibe is very familiar and disheartening.
@@nunyabidness3075 If they were focused on going head to head against Tesla and Rivian I would have my doubts - but bc they are focusing first on Gov and big commercial fleets I am sure they will survive.
@@nunyabidness3075 fleet operators buy in bulk, when they decide that a portion of their fleet is too aged and maintenance costs are eating into the profits, they will be replaced. It’s relatively typical for 1/4 of a fleet to be replaced at one time. There will be extra scrutiny on EVs for replacing ICE vehicles, but it seems that so far the reliability and operational costs are proving to be attractive enough to justify the conversion of at least some fleets. Once you have convinced a large fleet operator to make the switch, you could easily be talking about a few dozen to a few thousand vehicle sales, depending on the size of the company. And competition in this area is pretty fierce, companies pay close attention to what their competitors are doing. If a big company makes the switch, it is *very* likely because the business case is strong, meaning their competitors will have to consider making the switch also in order to remain competitive. Companies also do not tend to make these purchases with emotion attached, unlike retail car buyers. The vehicles are a tool to support the business, and the less costly the supply / delivery chain is, the more potential profit there is. Also, all of the associated costs are projected over time so that it’s not only the up-front costs that are considered, which is a very short-sighted aspect of many individual (retail) car buyers. If you buy a car that cost $15k more up front, but pay $5k less in fuel per year, after just over 3 years you’ve already recovered that initial additional up-front cost and are now actually saving money. Reliability is extremely important, especially to smaller fleets. Not having a vehicle on the road costs you twice - first the actual cost of the repairs but also the loss of revenue for the time the vehicle is out of service. Not having a vehicle can result in paying overtime to other drivers, working other vehicles harder, potential loss of a contract due to unreliability of your service if you’re an independent shipper etc. To sum it up, a couple of factors - little emotion in purchasing, only what works and costs less - competitive environment means a big player switching can have a domino effect - large fleet purchases require less advertising & sales effort if business case is strong, and will result in many units sold
good question! IT depends on the model and trim obviously, but I think the delivery bare bones is supposed to start at $35k and premium LV people mover at $50k? That would be pre-IRA tax incentives....it's not set in stone tho
This is all established safety design with EV having a low centre of gravity due to the battery giving it an advantage. The biggest safety concern for EV’s is battery fires. They need to resolve that issue. Because no amount of crash testing is going to reassure the public if the thing bursts into flames that burns violently.
This could potentially be the next Volkswagon beetle if they mind their p's and q's. I mean, those are some impressuve features that Everyone wants and needs. Safe even when we aren't 😂 Now, make it go through anything like the same and you got a winner.
So what they're saying, is that the Minivan design EV with all the running gear under the floor, is the perfect car for regular people to have as their passenger carrying vehicle. So why don't major companies make EV minivans? Everything is fugly SUV's with high-center-of-mass !!
Bryan, you forgot to end your comment with the following note “typed on my lithium powered iPhone” That’s a good idea honesty, I could also post some videos of oil spills along side of it, and maybe look at the net-benefits of burning dinosaur bones once vs mining once and recycling 80-90% of the EV battery!
This is how all EVs should work, there is no hope for legacy autos converting old designs to bad EVs.
I wish you guys the best! I wish I was a billionaire so I could get you guys to the finish line, along with Aptera which is another EV startup with a mission I believe in. Huge changes in the auto industry ongoing, which is a good thing. Tesla lit a fire under their feet and many more are helping. Keep it going!
wherespaunch - The king of independent Canoo media
baking every day
It’s my guess that you work for canoo or are hired by them and work closely with the canoo team. If true could you start doing some short/long interviews with people who know about the production line, time lines for product release, and any other behind the scenes info they are willing to provide. I’m sold on the vehicle. The promos are cool. I want to know when I can buy one…in Canada.
Thx, have a great day.
I do not work for nor am I sponsored by Canoo, but I would love to be or work directly with them
I have plans to try and get into interviewing canoo peeps but as of now, I am letting them focus on getting to production, they are operating all hands on deck
@@wheresPaunch thx for the info. And the vids. 👍
@@ConcreteLand Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@wheresPaunch Judging by their falling stock prices, now would be a great time for some good PR. Cool videos.
The self-righting is a major thing. They're like the old kids toy slogan for Weebles.
"Weebles wobble but they don't fall down". ;)
If I can comfortably afford one of these things when they come out I'm absolutely getting one.
Weebles Wobble! I have not heard that word in a long time. 1:42
It causes severe neck and spinal injury. If it rolls on its side you want it to stay on its side.
@@Katchi_ I get the feeling you didn't actually watch the video. The roll back is not even remotely a snap back. Its a very slow, easy return to the upright position.
No-one has to climb up to get out the other side. Just open the door and drag the person to safety if they are not able to get out on their own.
Lovin It! HOWEVER, I am concerned what that curved windshield is going to
cost me as State Farm does not cover cracked glass. My Winnebago windshield
is $4000.00USD !!!!!!!!! I wish I had known that before I bought, I would have
chosen a 2 piece windshield model.
!
The more important question is " Is the Canoo Lifestyle Vehicle PRICE test remarkable?"
Word from CEO when asked about it for the pickup "we wont be beat" - time will tell either way but I am hopeful!
@@wheresPaunch ya, the Canoo could have all the bell and whistles in the world with the perfect crash, performance, triple A test score but if it's over $50k tax credit. It's unsellable to the middle class
This has peaked my curiosity even more 😊thanks.🎉
thank you for watching!
If it's got through to crash testing that's expensive. Investors go !!! 💵💵💵💵
Makes me even more excited about the truck when it comes out.
Regular or Bulldog?
@wheresPaunch either and both. But I still have to say my biggest concern with all EVs is distance availability. I have stated many times on multiple Canoo sites that since Canoo has touted its truck ad the local handyman or business truck as well as a neat little truck to take camping, I have been calling for Canoo to also develope a sled that is free wheeling with the same battery underneath as the vehicle. Turn that sled into a landscape trailer, an enclosed trailer, a pop-up camper, etc. This way, you double the mileage and/or allow for more electrical usage. I don't know about you, but I don't go down the street to go camping. And when I used to own my own landscaping company, the amount of around town travel I would do along with the amount of gas I used on mowers, trimmers, edgers, etc was a lot. All of thise gas products are now available in chargeable battery form. But charging so many batteries to coincide with mileage used by the vehicle can reach that vehicles limit. I know we need trucks on the road first. But I just think it's a missed market as well as an item that can place the Canoo above all other EV trucks to the local business.
@@revparisking I’ve seen a render of a pull along skateboard/trailer in a Canoo pitch deck, so they’ve put enough thought into to draw it up. I’ll see if I can find it again and throw it up on Twitter
Go canoo.!
That's how all EV's should be marketed... The reduced rollover risk... After that? They should sell themselves...
I wanna a moose test
Pretty incredible. Can't wait to see more!
Am I weird that want to own a Canoo and an Aptera?
No sir!
Makes perfect sense .. A true all round familly/utility vehicle in Crew cab and bus form with adaptable seating.
And Aptera for fun driving and long distance commuting. Popping to the shops running errands and as a backup for when you have the Canoo being serviced or get a double puncture.
Now if canoo had also designed in a swappable battery pack system as per Nio. You would have a truly sustainable product able to quickly replace new improving battery tech like Blade cells and Na ion, Li S, Al S
Tech. Which are already proving
Safer more temp stable and showing faster C rates longer life spans and ultimately looks like Al S 10 times the capacity.
All the resources are far more available, easy to source produce and recycle than Li.
The other issue is E motors that use permanent magnets..and Magnet rare earths ... There are alternatives...you dont even need to use copper windings. Permanent magnet motors are vulnerable to heat and vibration demagnetisation. Company's like Advanced Electric Machines 🇬🇧 and a German Molabo, company have already developed very efficient and powerful compact motor ranges
round easily recycled none permanent magnet motors Using Al and Steel.. better still switch them off and they are 100% safe and have 0 drag or Cogging. Technology evolves alternative e technology is mushrooming....
Best follow Prof Donald Sadoway's maxims and if you want it to succeed best make it simple, cheap and globally available.
Impressive!
I want a track built bullet, 1 skateboard , set some records, a beefed regen😂 axial brake if you will, reduced gears from an output shaft from 1 specd with an output 2nd shaft motor
Are these for sale yet? Seems like they've been in the works for like 10 years.
Fleet sales now. I hope individual sales in a year or so. I am just following this company, not an employee or anything and this is just my guess.
@@robinpettit7827 which fleets? the 6 the USPS ordered?
I like what you are doing. I wish you could solve the towing distance problem EV's have. Even if it costs load ability (like only having a 5000 pound towing capacity).
Towing is going to be a hard issue to solve without big external range extender battery packs….Canoo has shown off a towable trailer that uses a skateboard so in theory the trailer would double your range without a load
@@wheresPaunch I've always wondered if there was other ways, like using a transmission. Tesla is "kind of doing" that with their clutched second motor on the semi. Although that is overkill in comparison to a transmission. For every day driving you dont need gears however add in a load or trailer it could be the solution? The extra battery in the bed is one too. Can Canoo tow a 4000 boat safely? Its a smaller truck with smaller wheels.
The solution is to fit a modern ultra efficient compact generator like the
University of Durhams free contra piston twin generator... Toyota refined it to a point where it's only 50cm long about 20wide and 18deep.. producing over 24kw.. best run off something like biofuel or Methanol using CO2 from the air and bound to hydrogen from water using the new nano coated water repelling catalysts that also reduce the temp and energy required to produce it... though you burn it your essentially recycle the Carbon dioxide via the atmospheric extraction ...your burning hydrogen mostly to produce water again.
Take a look at Edison motors DIY electric logging truck using a CAT generator charging a smaller battery pack ...running at its Stoichiometric optimum it uses half the fuel less pollution. Can be switched off and its lighter and more powerful than a conventional rig.
So use it as a rage extender charging the batteries on the longer grades or whilst accelerating the towed load ...down hill regen helps cut down wear on the brakes as they found with topsy..as its called.
The other option is to take a leaf from bycicles and trains and now trucks again and fit a powered trailer with its own power system and a load sensing hitch or kingpin third wheel.. pull and it drives break slightly and it goes into regen breaking before even having to break hard.
It can carry its own compact generator and fuel or just the plug in battery..
The power it contributes is akin to what they term a bobcat haul ie. no more than is already in the tow vehicle. See the Edison guys and also Range Truck trailers.
Way back in Nimh days Toyota did a towable generator unit for range extending the little SUV 4x4 they developed.
The advances in tech mean now you can tow an big load longer... and safer ..for the bicycle version see the Danish Carla 3 wheel power trailer that can be unhitched from any bike and led by the tow bar
On foot payload is 400lb 🤔if i remember and its got about a two meter load bed. 😎🧙♂️🇬🇧 Hitched up to a Dutch long john electric cargo bike you can deliver a small bars worth of kegs and bottled drinks crates across a town without breaking into a sweat going up hill and down ..
I hope to get an electric pickup truck to tow an RV and am very interested in the Canoo Pickup truck. Looking at the Pebble Flow with tow assist via power wheels. This should minimize range impact. There is also the Lightship RV with similar features.
@@robinpettit7827
Its an old idea that has found its use again a lot of detachable
Caravans ..RVs are so large that owners fit them with so called walking powered tow hitch wheels to manoeuvre them without the vehicle or re hitch them .
Keeping the tow vehicle as light as practical is important as most of the time its used as a separate vehicle... it also introduced the problem of tow vehicle break limits.
The self contained pull to push and push to brake hitch is interesting as I imagine if reverse is engaged the signals to the trailer unit also have to be reversed🤔
So it works for bicycles up to to trains. Seems like thats good enough to give it a chance..
The company i linked to als state that the trailor having its own power means that refrigerated units can be left running overnight without the noise of ICE powered compressors keeping everyone awake.
Any hybrids liquid fueled generator. Needs to be small easy format, light ultra efficient and simple to make maintain and quiet... The electric motors are the device doing the moving ... the batteries in a light vehicle would supply the energy but the generator needs to be adequate to extend the range or offset towing loads. In remote area use they need to be able to
Keep up with the motors typical running demands.
Plug in Recharging from say a stand alone flow battery based Solar/renewable charge station is going to be cheaper than most liquid fuels for the forceable future.
If you have big flatish surfaces like a roof and bonnet or trailer roof ....given printed solar panels why not cover them in cells... for commercial user's it would probably reduce costs and maintain the system when the vehicle and or towed trailer is left standing or out on the road. The Australians have made some notable breakthroughs in this field...
What are the odds we will ever be able to buy one of these? I don’t think Tesla would have ever made it without its first vehicle being based on an already existing chassis.
They will come to market 100%
@@wheresPaunch If they do, will they hang around? Most of these new folks will not. I really like the design and philosophy displayed by the car, but the vibe is very familiar and disheartening.
@@nunyabidness3075 If they were focused on going head to head against Tesla and Rivian I would have my doubts - but bc they are focusing first on Gov and big commercial fleets I am sure they will survive.
@@wheresPaunch Why would focusing on those be a plus?
@@nunyabidness3075 fleet operators buy in bulk, when they decide that a portion of their fleet is too aged and maintenance costs are eating into the profits, they will be replaced. It’s relatively typical for 1/4 of a fleet to be replaced at one time. There will be extra scrutiny on EVs for replacing ICE vehicles, but it seems that so far the reliability and operational costs are proving to be attractive enough to justify the conversion of at least some fleets. Once you have convinced a large fleet operator to make the switch, you could easily be talking about a few dozen to a few thousand vehicle sales, depending on the size of the company. And competition in this area is pretty fierce, companies pay close attention to what their competitors are doing. If a big company makes the switch, it is *very* likely because the business case is strong, meaning their competitors will have to consider making the switch also in order to remain competitive. Companies also do not tend to make these purchases with emotion attached, unlike retail car buyers. The vehicles are a tool to support the business, and the less costly the supply / delivery chain is, the more potential profit there is. Also, all of the associated costs are projected over time so that it’s not only the up-front costs that are considered, which is a very short-sighted aspect of many individual (retail) car buyers. If you buy a car that cost $15k more up front, but pay $5k less in fuel per year, after just over 3 years you’ve already recovered that initial additional up-front cost and are now actually saving money. Reliability is extremely important, especially to smaller fleets. Not having a vehicle on the road costs you twice - first the actual cost of the repairs but also the loss of revenue for the time the vehicle is out of service. Not having a vehicle can result in paying overtime to other drivers, working other vehicles harder, potential loss of a contract due to unreliability of your service if you’re an independent shipper etc.
To sum it up, a couple of factors
- little emotion in purchasing, only what works and costs less
- competitive environment means a big player switching can have a domino effect
- large fleet purchases require less advertising & sales effort if business case is strong, and will result in many units sold
This product IS the future.
How much will the van go for?
good question! IT depends on the model and trim obviously, but I think the delivery bare bones is supposed to start at $35k and premium LV people mover at $50k? That would be pre-IRA tax incentives....it's not set in stone tho
Should do well in the Moose tests 😂 👍🏼😎🇬🇧🧙♂️
yooo totally I can't wait!
I am diamond handing 💎 CANOO all the way to the bank 🏦
this is the way
And, so the advertising onslaught begins.
You love to see it!
This is all established safety design with EV having a low centre of gravity due to the battery giving it an advantage. The biggest safety concern for EV’s is battery fires. They need to resolve that issue. Because no amount of crash testing is going to reassure the public if the thing bursts into flames that burns violently.
From this video till now, are you more positive about the stock or less?
0:59 - most definitely NOT an "8-inch curb". Flat out lie.
This could potentially be the next Volkswagon beetle if they mind their p's and q's. I mean, those are some impressuve features that Everyone wants and needs. Safe even when we aren't 😂 Now, make it go through anything like the same and you got a winner.
Nice, VERY
Batteries on gimbal?
Kind of light in the range department though, 200 miles.
Share price for Canoo now only 0.18 USD, was 20 USD at it's peck. So yet another EV company that has failed.
What about anyone outside of it?
So what they're saying, is that the Minivan design EV with all the running gear under the floor, is the perfect car for regular people to have as their passenger carrying vehicle.
So why don't major companies make EV minivans? Everything is fugly SUV's with high-center-of-mass !!
13Dec2023: they’re down to their last $8M.
IT'S A WEEBLE!
Where is the half overlap crash test? Or the 20% ovetlap crash test?
A flat head on crash the least type of crash in the real world.
A real microphone costs too much?
Like any other EV!
I just dont get good vibes from the people running the show over at Canoo. The CEO reminds me of a jersey goon car salesman with a suit
Mercedes...Its the Best or Nothing...LOL
I just wish it wasn't so ugly.
One step short of bankruptcy and a individual consumer cannot acquire a production model. The seem cool, just not available
Wow, now show us a video of the slaves digging up the poisonous non recyclable crap to make your battery, and all the energy it take to make them
Bryan, you forgot to end your comment with the following note “typed on my lithium powered iPhone”
That’s a good idea honesty, I could also post some videos of oil spills along side of it, and maybe look at the net-benefits of burning dinosaur bones once vs mining once and recycling 80-90% of the EV battery!
You wear ignorance like a medal.
I ❤ 🚂🚃 trains 🚄 🚅 trams 🚈🚞
take a ride, I have a folder on ''transportation''
I think you wll love them too :)
As impressive as it is, I’m not buying an EV anytime soon - they’re not ready for primetime.
This only leads to one possible conclusion. A Dukes of Hazzard remake.