Put a bet on Sunday william hill the payout slip got lost in the betting terminal staff claimed the bets been payed out .yet they don't have any evidence of paying the bet out .staff said there's nothing we can do about it.
Yes I've watched it a couple of times now Caan and am still amazed that those two Hills employees phoned the Police making him feel like a criminal for just going to pick up a winning bet, and as for the way those two Police Officers dealt with the matter it was comical as they too never knew what to do, but in my opinion they should NOT have called in the first place, still I guess that's what a lot of Bookmakers tell there employees when a punter comes into there shop with a winning bet for a large amount of money. Now I myself spend many hours a day in a William Hill shop near me but do not spend a great deal of money there like some people, but I would be truly surprised if the staff in this William Hill shop would refuse to pay me out or treat me like a criminal the way those two did with that man, anyway thank you for posting this video and the many others you have sent out about these unscrupulous Bookmakers and the tactics they use into avoid paying people and I also look forward to others you send, but one last thing though and that is what are your thoughts on William Hills S.B.T. machines.
These corporations simply do not care they know no matter how much bad press they get it will not affect their bottom line because people's gambling addictions do not care about morals
Who would blame corporations like these, they're all scum by their very nature. The people at fault are our governments for letting them mislead and get away with these insane Ts & Cs when they contradict gambling legislation and even basic human rights.
Just been telling my mother about this over the phone earlier and she said the government said they were meant to be clamping down on TV adverts, she says it's never been as bad and all they've done is add some small print saying be careful gambling and if you think you have a problem contact gamble aware, that's like selling crack and handing out a card saying if you think you've a problem talk to FRANK!
I live in Australia & in March i had a $5 all up on 7 horses at Flemington with bet easy i put the bet on Friday evening for Saturdays races the last horse in the bet was a non runner lucky for me as the first 6 won i Collected $27,500+ they paid out within 10 min I would urge any punter with a winning bet to Sue if the bookie refuses to pay out good luck to all punters
All the cases mentioned are different but it's a worrying trend used by bookmakers to try and intimidate winning punters by refusing payment or by hiding behind Terms and Conditions.'Criminal'is the only word that can be used.
during Qatar WC I cashed out £1,400 on a footy bet online with ladbrokes.. The next day when I logged on ONLY £120 was in my ladbrokes account. Also they sent me an email saying you gusessd it er we had a technical glitch. Absolute bool sheet lies from ladbrokes 100%!!!!!! Its daylight robbery.
Seems no point betting anymore i do a football Accumulator every Saturday £10 on 10 to 12 selections looking to win between £2000/£3000 im afraid if i ever get one up i would never be paid
Sir, I have significant respect for you standing up against such dishonour, disloyalty, corruption, and quite frankly theft. Your videos and actions, respectfully, will slowly encourage the changes in legislation that support the upholding of paying winnings fairly and honestly.
This is one of the reasons i dont go to bookmakers anymore. I used to go in every other day and have a little punt but once i heard about them refusing punters winnings ect i thought thats enough for me. They simply cant be trusted. They want everything their own way. I wouldnt be suprised if they sell winning punters data to offset the payout.
The problem is that these bookmakers make billions every year-they are worth 100's of billions collectively.They do what they like and governments let them.
There's nothing new, many years ago, W.H. ripped me off for a grand, under the palpable error rule, even though, the shop manager, authorised the bet. Dick Turpin, had the decency to wear a mask
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CAAN.....I HAVE HAD A FEW CALLS FROM A VERY POSH SPEAKING OLD GUY SAYING HES A BLOOD STOCK AGENT ...ASKING TOO PUT MONEY ON A CERTAINTY ...IF THE WORST HAPPENED HE WOULD SEND ME THE LOSSES....BUT IT WILL NOT LOSE.......PLEASE WARN ALL PUNTERS ABOUT THIS SCAMMER...HE SOUNDS VERY CONVINCING AND GENUINE.....
This is why I stopped betting several years ago, even when you win you lose. Have witnessed several people's bank accounts frozen after winning large amounts! All gambling is a mugs game. Also seen several customers winning large amounts where the bookmakers refused to pay out. Betting shops are happy to take your money as long as you lose.
I recently placed bets on Katie Taylor's last fight in Dublin. All the soft book makers were offering long odds on a knockdown in the first round and even longer odds on KT being knocked down in round 1. I backed it at around 70/1. KT was clearly knocked down in round one by a legal blow and the referee instantly ruled it a 'slip'. A lot of punters got robbed here and nobody mentioned it.
I saw that and it was a knock down. It's a matter of fact whether it's a knock down or not, not a matter of the arbitrary opinion of the referee. She did not slip, she did not have her foot stood on, was nailed by a punch when she was square and went down, it's knock down all day.
Only came across you yesterday and have thoroughly enjoyed watching many of the clips you've shared . Where did you begin & if I may what's your story ie getting into the world of betting etc? Cheers.
Always read the T&C's especially when doing markets such as the snow on christmas day, do not count on the member of staff behind the counter as they are likely min wage worker and dont give a rats ass about the job.
I’m telling you, I manage a bookies and the company I work for won’t pay out. They didn’t pay out one fella I know because he has shaved his beard and the company said it wasn’t him
mob bookies pay out right away, in cash, no bullshit. screw the big outfits who dont like paying out. there should be a class action lawsuit against these crooks.
Paddy Power refused to pay me out a £900. win They told me that they only took the bet on because they thought that it was going to lose. I bet that Andy Murray would win his first grand slam at 9/4 I put £400 on. I won. I eventually got my money after waiting in the betting shop for over two hours. They at one time said they would pay me out at 15/8 I said oh no you won’t. They thought that I didn’t know the difference!
Even if that was true, this certainly doesn’t make sense as anything other than a technical glitch. I have sympathy with betfair on this. They’ve got to have some protection for what can only be a legitimate technical failure. Very different from the one that voided a casino game reporting some vague technical issue.
Sky bet have been at it again . They've done a friend of mine out of 2k after saying the odds that were shown before are game were put wrong and settled it for a much lower price
As regards the Ladbrokes snow bet even if the events had been unrelated which quite obviously they weren’t there would have been a restriction on the maximum payout on such a market. Not being someone who bets on snow I’m not au fait with the max on such a market but I’d be surprised if it was more than £50,000. And if you’re going to do accumulators you really do need to know the rules . Yes he wouldn’t have got £50,000 either but still
You never hear this about the lottery so instead of doing a long shot big payout bet with one of these bookies you might as well buy a lottery ticket. However, if I did work out a big payout bet I would spread it out among several bookies to stay under the radar and withdraw the money ASAP!
The not so lovelly Ms Coates and her firm seem to be a law onto themselves just the way other Bookmakers seem to be especially when you win substantial amounts of money from them 🤔 😢.
I worked for this company for a couple of years, and internally there’s a standard formal letter inside the system and send this out if they think a punter is simply winning “Too Much” that your betting account closed for that reason!! Betting companies only welcome those punters who can lose money!!
I think the Snow bet and the betfair and software glitch could be properly refused by the bookmaker's concerned-with the other bets the bookmakers acted appallingly.
I done a nba bet few weeks abck with skybet the special was the team to win or draw the 3rd quarter 5/4 boosted to 6/4 had only £40 on it the quarter ended 27-27 stating my eyes im a winner, bet was settled a loser went on live chat to the agent they said they offered a draw market on the game to end draw also so woudnt be paying me out, there absolute crooks
Hi Caan, is there anything in your course or do you know of a way of figuring how a horse is actually a donkey in a race and will lose at shorter odds? I mean outright straight loss and no trading? Many thanks. Jay
A bit off topic, but I occasionally place bets, but had to stop and complain to the information commissioner when they bombarded me with multiple emails and texts each day, even after I told them to stop and closed my account. All while claiming to be a responsible company
Tough question, if you're in the UK without access to a sharp book or broker then it's exchanges only really. That said, there's still premium charge issues.
hi there caan berry can you help me with a question? lets say my current balance is 100 £, has the commision already been done at this point? or does the commision start to take effect when you cash out
Sou do Brasil apenas estudo. Já iniciei numa bokkie que não é Exchange e perdi naturalmente por não apostar com valor. Depois de estudar muito percebo que as casas não gostam de apostadores lucrativos. Somente em Exchange aonde são apostadores contra apostadores e casa leva uma porcentagem. Nas demais casas que proliferaram aqui no Brasil a maioria trabalha com dutching que dificultam e muito ser lucrativo. Mas tem caminhos.
i don't know when ppl will finally realise the house always wins, we all say the words, but they still bet! its crazy, maybe they all deserve what they get? its truly not a gamble, the odds are literally stacked against you, burning your money to keep warm would be a better use than giving it to these companies.
For the 1st one, organized crime pays jockeys to lose and then places bets with a 3rd party. The corporations got wise to this and know what to look for.
If they can track your full credit history, face, clothing, car reg, family members and friends why can't they check a betslip? Really shouldn't be siding with them here, they use it as a lame way to keep customers money.
How do the bosses of these betting companies sleep at night! Oh yeah that's right, they sleep very comfortably in their 40 bed mansion with two swimming pools.
Betting is a con, the sad reality is though is that some people can't quit, and bookies know this. If you have children raise them to know betting will ruin them.
In paddington Ladbrokes 2 Asian guy gambler committed suicide. I met one of the staff as a bus driver . He confessed me he couldn't work there anymore. In shepherds bush Ladbrokes a guy had a heart attack in the toilet and the manager was so pissed off that they called his children and they didn't come to pick their dead dad from toilet. Poor guy must have had heart attack after losing. They have no Mercy and responsibility.say Who Cares. They must be legally observed
Dirty scummy bstds especially bet Fred ,let's be honest these days horse racing alone is so so bent ,massif deception with most favs none triers instructed ,by bent trainers who feed the bookies enough to easily pay anything .
Caan the thing that jumps out at me from the examples you give is that with the exception of skybet they’re all bookies with decent reputations so far as paying out is concerned. Yet there are plenty of very dubious bookies with appalling reputations-mainly foreign ones- and yet they barely feature in these kind of videos. Think I saw 32red recently but surprisingly few others . Do you not get lots of complaints about the lesser bookies then ?
Not in my experience, Anthony. My inbox and DM's every day gets new cases sent to me an they're usually about the same companies (many of those mentioned). The small ones are pretty bad too but sometimes people don't realise they're actually owned by the big ones too. Happy for you to bring specific cases to my attention, not familiar with the 32 red one will take a look.
Most of these were correct tbf The 1st one was a mug punter account and was a constant loser losing chump change then sticks on a 25k bet 😂 The Messi one was also correct, he had 1 shot on target and the other was a blatant cross, funny how you onky showed the shot which produced the goal then left out the other one which was clearly a cross
@CaanBerryProTrader are there any that do without restricting your bets? Betconnect did for a while then they wanted all the usual rubbish proof of income bank statements etc.
The Ladbrokes one is just stupidity on the cashiers part and not Ladbrokes. Any bettor with half a braincell knows that they would never get an acca on those selections. If they wanted a price on it snowing in all of those places it would have been a special odds request to the traders who in all honesty would probably refuse it or give an incredibly low price. Also, Terms and Conditions have maximum payouts. Notice how this one didn't go to court or anything, the customer knew he was trying it on.
I dont withdraw more than £150 because im scared they wouldn't pay it out anyway lol but that does make for shorter time gambling and with a £150 monthly limit and £40 weekly its nice to gamble responsibily nowadays 😇
Yes, a conflict of interests especially when half the PL are sponsored by betting companies! People like Betway, pay the PL to advertise at very times round the pitch. You start getting very odd decisions like Sheff United, getting a last minute penalty against West Ham, when the player fouled the keeper.
The first one with Bet 365 is clearly a breach there is no way a student had £25k it was obviously staked for other punters with restrictions so they were lucky to get a payout there. The William Hill one an advantage player who managed to get too much on. I don’t blame them for not paying out, was probably a runner for a bigger punter. Should have had SOW done on him before the bet was even taken. So many fraudsters about in the betting industry.
Not to Ladbrokes it wasn't, or their many automated systems. Mad how they can't get the bets right but can profile every inch of a customers life isn't it
Will you get banned for winning if using a betting exchange like betfair exchange evan if not a massive sum say u kept making a profit will u get gubbed i had a quick look on there site once but everthing a bit confusing i only wanna place normall like ew and win on horses not really bothers about match better dont have a scooby how to macth bet
If ladbrokes were right, why did they accept the bet? They don't in Australia because the law states that they have to pay it out if they took the bet, even as a mistake (Ladbrokes). Miraculous how they don't alter their systems to stop such bets being taken in the UK isn't it? Or is it because they know its a way of keeping extra money because they can do such shitty things?
@@CaanBerryProTrader How would a cashier know it was an accumulated bet? They don't even read the things half the time other than the stake amount, the till works out the return if there is one. They didn't keep the money, they paid out on all single bets, which is correct. I bet the customer knew he was pulling a fast one though.
The same way they do (same company) in Austalia - the till system. The company are the ones pulling a fast one - there's no excuse for it in 2024. They didn't pay out anywhere near the full amount, if you read the articles the customer was oblivious. If these companies can track every inch of a customers life and ensure they only accept valid slips where they operate in other countries they can do it here. It's just that its more profitable for them to pull a fast one, I have zero sympathy for them.
@@CaanBerryProTrader I get what you are saying, but it's a related bet and clearly covered in the rules. You can't bet on a horse to win and get a place as a double, it's treated as two singles. So why would they let you bet on a white xmas in Newcastle and Sunderland as a double? It's almost impossible not to be both, or neither. They probably didn't advertise this at the time, as the marketers don't always understand betting.
It also says that they can keep your money if someone has transfered you money (third party betting) in their rules, or that if they believe you have colluded with someone (like betting tips they advertise). I understand what a related contingency is, but the responsibilty is on them (they manage it elsewhere as I said). We're not in a 1960's smoke filled betting shop with no computer anymore - there's no excuse. Blaming the marketing team or the cashier is weak, these companies turn over billions every year and track thousands of data points, they could at least sort their core business out instead of blaming the customer after the fact. The same company even advertised related contingencies in the past, its boring, its never their fault and they get to keep the money - ridiculous.
@@CaanBerryProTrader True good point. I truly hate all bookies with a passion. I have had over 50 accounts banned/restricted Caan. The best was this year when Betfair did the ol' we care safer gambling compulsory nonsense chat. I said the only problem I have with gambling is getting enough of a bet on as you restrict winners and want losers. As well as no BOG etc even if they do let you have a little go with a tenner or whatever. With that comment they then claimed I had an issue with gambling and banned me (self exclusion they called it) for 6 months. Of course this also affected the rest of the Mafia Cartel of Paddypower, Skybet and even my $10 Sunday Pokerstars game was affected as banned on that too. Had no idea they were all the same group until then! They are digusting in every way. PS Thanks for exposing them and for all the video's. I just wish we could all open an account in Asia. Of course the corrupt Government wont allow it as it is all one big stitch up to the punter. But remember they care, safer gambling......PLEASE LOSE! :)
See when the bookies refused to pay a customer and called the police here - ruclips.net/video/K2LE6TaWXKk/видео.html
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Put a bet on Sunday william hill the payout slip got lost in the betting terminal staff claimed the bets been payed out .yet they don't have any evidence of paying the bet out .staff said there's nothing we can do about it.
Yes I've watched it a couple of times now Caan and am still amazed that those two Hills employees phoned the Police making him feel like a criminal for just going to pick up a winning bet, and as for the way those two Police Officers dealt with the matter it was comical as they too never knew what to do, but in my opinion they should NOT have called in the first place, still I guess that's what a lot of Bookmakers tell there employees when a punter comes into there shop with a winning bet for a large amount of money. Now I myself spend many hours a day in a William Hill shop near me but do not spend a great deal of money there like some people, but I would be truly surprised if the staff in this William Hill shop would refuse to pay me out or treat me like a criminal the way those two did with that man, anyway thank you for posting this video and the many others you have sent out about these unscrupulous Bookmakers and the tactics they use into avoid paying people and I also look forward to others you send, but one last thing though and that is what are your thoughts on William Hills S.B.T. machines.
These corporations simply do not care they know no matter how much bad press they get it will not affect their bottom line because people's gambling addictions do not care about morals
Corporations rarely care about anything but profit.
They dont get half as much bad press as they should, because they are massive Sponsors and advertisers in the corrupt media.
Who would blame corporations like these, they're all scum by their very nature. The people at fault are our governments for letting them mislead and get away with these insane Ts & Cs when they contradict gambling legislation and even basic human rights.
Just been telling my mother about this over the phone earlier and she said the government said they were meant to be clamping down on TV adverts, she says it's never been as bad and all they've done is add some small print saying be careful gambling and if you think you have a problem contact gamble aware, that's like selling crack and handing out a card saying if you think you've a problem talk to FRANK!
@@CaanBerryProTraderAnd the corporations own parliament, regardless of which puppet party are in 'power'
I live in Australia & in March i had a $5 all up on 7 horses at Flemington with bet easy i put the bet on Friday evening for Saturdays races the last horse in the bet was a non runner lucky for me as the first 6 won i Collected $27,500+ they paid out within 10 min I would urge any punter with a winning bet to Sue if the bookie refuses to pay out good luck to all punters
All the cases mentioned are different but it's a worrying trend used by bookmakers to try and intimidate winning punters by refusing payment or by hiding behind Terms and Conditions.'Criminal'is the only word that can be used.
during Qatar WC I cashed out £1,400 on a footy bet online with ladbrokes.. The next day when I logged on ONLY £120 was in my ladbrokes account. Also they sent me an email saying you gusessd it er we had a technical glitch. Absolute bool sheet lies from ladbrokes 100%!!!!!! Its daylight robbery.
This is one of the main reasons I do not bet any more.
Sad to hear...
Makes me want to take them for as much as I can. But yeah you win big and they pull stunts like this is truly disgusting.
Seems no point betting anymore i do a football Accumulator every Saturday £10 on 10 to 12 selections looking to win between £2000/£3000 im afraid if i ever get one up i would never be paid
You are not missing anything. Gambling with the bookies is a mugs game.
Sir, I have significant respect for you standing up against such dishonour, disloyalty, corruption, and quite frankly theft.
Your videos and actions, respectfully, will slowly encourage the changes in legislation that support the upholding of paying winnings fairly and honestly.
How could a bet on 6 football teams being in 6 places only be 2 to 1??
Terms and Conditions 🤣
The "software glitch" excuse is so ambiguous and can be used to discredit any computer processing event. It's simply a "get out of jail free" card.
This is one of the reasons i dont go to bookmakers anymore. I used to go in every other day and have a little punt but once i heard about them refusing punters winnings ect i thought thats enough for me. They simply cant be trusted. They want everything their own way. I wouldnt be suprised if they sell winning punters data to offset the payout.
It is criminal the government let the bookies get away with their crooked ways 🤬
A bit of you scratch my back i'll scratch yours going on I think.
The problem is that these bookmakers make billions every year-they are worth 100's of billions collectively.They do what they like and governments let them.
Finally, keep up the good work Caan!
More to come!
There's nothing new, many years ago, W.H. ripped me off for a grand, under the palpable error rule, even though, the shop manager, authorised the bet. Dick Turpin, had the decency to wear a mask
Many others have come up with the same quote haha!
I lost 100 k in less than 12 hours at William Hill on Blackjack once upon a time, about 11 years ago actually (
@@julien1😢
So glad i watched these clips . Im Australian and never heard of this . I won't be betting here in the UK. I will be staying here for a few years.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CAAN.....I HAVE HAD A FEW CALLS FROM A VERY POSH SPEAKING OLD GUY SAYING HES A BLOOD STOCK AGENT ...ASKING TOO PUT MONEY ON A CERTAINTY ...IF THE WORST HAPPENED HE WOULD SEND ME THE LOSSES....BUT IT WILL NOT LOSE.......PLEASE WARN ALL PUNTERS ABOUT THIS SCAMMER...HE SOUNDS VERY CONVINCING AND GENUINE.....
This is why I stopped betting several years ago, even when you win you lose. Have witnessed several people's bank accounts frozen after winning large amounts! All gambling is a mugs game. Also seen several customers winning large amounts where the bookmakers refused to pay out. Betting shops are happy to take your money as long as you lose.
I recently placed bets on Katie Taylor's last fight in Dublin. All the soft book makers were offering long odds on a knockdown in the first round and even longer odds on KT being knocked down in round 1. I backed it at around 70/1. KT was clearly knocked down in round one by a legal blow and the referee instantly ruled it a 'slip'. A lot of punters got robbed here and nobody mentioned it.
Not heard about that one, which bookie?
@@CaanBerryProTrader PaddyPower.
If the ref had it as a slip so will the bookies
The bookies obviously bribed the ref
I saw that and it was a knock down. It's a matter of fact whether it's a knock down or not, not a matter of the arbitrary opinion of the referee. She did not slip, she did not have her foot stood on, was nailed by a punch when she was square and went down, it's knock down all day.
What a breath of fresh air your channel is to me mate!
Love your vids. Exposing these robbing b…..ds is so important 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Only came across you yesterday and have thoroughly enjoyed watching many of the clips you've shared .
Where did you begin & if I may what's your story ie getting into the world of betting etc?
Cheers.
Always read the T&C's especially when doing markets such as the snow on christmas day, do not count on the member of staff behind the counter as they are likely min wage worker and dont give a rats ass about the job.
I’m telling you, I manage a bookies and the company I work for won’t pay out. They didn’t pay out one fella I know because he has shaved his beard and the company said it wasn’t him
Like that did they sack you
mob bookies pay out right away, in cash, no bullshit. screw the big outfits who dont like paying out. there should be a class action lawsuit against these crooks.
Shame big ole Geoff Banks didn't make it on here after voiding all the greyhound bets...
I though that was settled in the end...
If it were the other way around and it was the customers implementing rules after the event, they would be laughed at!
They have rules not to pay out but no one knows these sneaky things they put in rule books
Paddy Power refused to pay me out a £900. win They told me that they only took the bet on because they thought that it was going to lose. I bet that Andy Murray would win his first grand slam at 9/4 I put £400 on. I won. I eventually got my money after waiting in the betting shop for over two hours. They at one time said they would pay me out at 15/8 I said oh no you won’t. They thought that I didn’t know the difference!
I think most gamblers would consider that a 1300 pound win, once i place the bet the stake is dead money to me or else I don't bet.
#6 Not buying it was a customer at all.... We all know Betfair are active in their own markets. Their cross matcher front-runs customer's order
There's always been speculation on this although nobody knows for sure, not that I'm aware has said in public.
Even if that was true, this certainly doesn’t make sense as anything other than a technical glitch.
I have sympathy with betfair on this. They’ve got to have some protection for what can only be a legitimate technical failure. Very different from the one that voided a casino game reporting some vague technical issue.
Sky bet have been at it again . They've done a friend of mine out of 2k after saying the odds that were shown before are game were put wrong and settled it for a much lower price
As regards the Ladbrokes snow bet even if the events had been unrelated which quite obviously they weren’t there would have been a restriction on the maximum payout on such a market. Not being someone who bets on snow I’m not au fait with the max on such a market but I’d be surprised if it was more than £50,000. And if you’re going to do accumulators you really do need to know the rules .
Yes he wouldn’t have got £50,000 either but still
The staff too shouldn't they?
Gross I just got tricked into watching an 8 minute long ad for a betting site...
You never hear this about the lottery so instead of doing a long shot big payout bet with one of these bookies you might as well buy a lottery ticket. However, if I did work out a big payout bet I would spread it out among several bookies to stay under the radar and withdraw the money ASAP!
Don't think they're much better to be honest. Total RTP is worse
if they find out you placed a bet with another bookie they wont pay you your rightful winnings
Long time my guy u inspired me
Money is money so if I lend you £50 and say you win £1000,000 they take the money and don't ask but won't pay out this is BS
The not so lovelly Ms Coates and her firm seem to be a law onto themselves just the way other Bookmakers seem to be especially when you win substantial amounts of money from them 🤔 😢.
I worked for this company for a couple of years, and internally there’s a standard formal letter inside the system and send this out if they think a punter is simply winning “Too Much” that your betting account closed for that reason!! Betting companies only welcome those punters who can lose money!!
I think the Snow bet and the betfair and software glitch could be properly refused by the bookmaker's concerned-with the other bets the bookmakers acted appallingly.
Is the bet in Asia a good bookie ?sick of having my normal uk ones closed
My daughter won over 400,000 on the lottery on William Hill and they refused to pay it every time she phoned up, they congratulated her on her win
That's called STEALING...
Don't be bookmaker if you can't cover your bets.
Criminals.
Criminals go to jail...
Its Uk mate they do pay out in Australia and i would suggest Betfair only take commission 😅
I done a nba bet few weeks abck with skybet the special was the team to win or draw the 3rd quarter 5/4 boosted to 6/4 had only £40 on it the quarter ended 27-27 stating my eyes im a winner, bet was settled a loser went on live chat to the agent they said they offered a draw market on the game to end draw also so woudnt be paying me out, there absolute crooks
Hi Caan, is there anything in your course or do you know of a way of figuring how a horse is actually a donkey in a race and will lose at shorter odds? I mean outright straight loss and no trading? Many thanks. Jay
A bit off topic, but I occasionally place bets, but had to stop and complain to the information commissioner when they bombarded me with multiple emails and texts each day, even after I told them to stop and closed my account. All while claiming to be a responsible company
Who do we bet with who do we trust and get value in the uk?
Tough question, if you're in the UK without access to a sharp book or broker then it's exchanges only really. That said, there's still premium charge issues.
Bet #5 the snow bet, the punter was trying it on. Agree with Ladbrokes on that one.
They shouldn't have taken it then.
What system did the #1 use? Staking 25k on 4 Lucky 15s is a bit extreme. Was there an EW loophole?
Have a google there's some speculation, I think it was an advantage play of sorts - not that it's a bad thing. They want it all one way!
hi there caan berry can you help me with a question? lets say my current balance is 100 £, has the commision already been done at this point? or does the commision start to take effect when you cash out
Looking forward to the class action where EVERY losing pound the bookies have accepted from third parties get refunded.
Sou do Brasil apenas estudo. Já iniciei numa bokkie que não é Exchange e perdi naturalmente por não apostar com valor. Depois de estudar muito percebo que as casas não gostam de apostadores lucrativos. Somente em Exchange aonde são apostadores contra apostadores e casa leva uma porcentagem. Nas demais casas que proliferaram aqui no Brasil a maioria trabalha com dutching que dificultam e muito ser lucrativo. Mas tem caminhos.
i don't know when ppl will finally realise the house always wins, we all say the words, but they still bet! its crazy, maybe they all deserve what they get? its truly not a gamble, the odds are literally stacked against you, burning your money to keep warm would be a better use than giving it to these companies.
THESE COMPANYS CAN HIRE A COURT AND FILL IT WITH ALL THEIR LAWERS AND JUDGES, JUST LIKE YOUR COUNCIL DO WHEN YOU DO NOT PAY POLL TAX🤫
For the 1st one, organized crime pays jockeys to lose and then places bets with a 3rd party. The corporations got wise to this and know what to look for.
Hi Caan, the betinasia link isn’t working here in the UK what other companies/apps would you recommend using please?
I'm actually with Ladbrokes on the snow bet. I mean, if snow falls in one town, it's very likely to also fall in the town just down the road.
If they can track your full credit history, face, clothing, car reg, family members and friends why can't they check a betslip? Really shouldn't be siding with them here, they use it as a lame way to keep customers money.
How do the bosses of these betting companies sleep at night! Oh yeah that's right, they sleep very comfortably in their 40 bed mansion with two swimming pools.
criminals these sites, its sickening
Betting is a con, the sad reality is though is that some people can't quit, and bookies know this. If you have children raise them to know betting will ruin them.
What about any American non payout scandles?
us sites pay you.
In paddington Ladbrokes 2 Asian guy gambler committed suicide. I met one of the staff as a bus driver . He confessed me he couldn't work there anymore.
In shepherds bush Ladbrokes a guy had a heart attack in the toilet and the manager was so pissed off that they called his children and they didn't come to pick their dead dad from toilet.
Poor guy must have had heart attack after losing.
They have no Mercy and responsibility.say Who Cares. They must be legally observed
1.7 million jackpot . 1.5million lawyer fees
😂
Wow. These are disgusting.
Hello Caan / can't open account for ( betinasia ) restricted UK / is there s way around this
Move to Asia?
Ha ha
You could use a VPN, however, it is against their T&C section 3.4
Rules is rules, the UK has become a nightmare with such things. The companies they want you to use behave the worst!
Which online betting company would you recommend for overall better prices ? Caan
Dirty scummy bstds especially bet Fred ,let's be honest these days horse racing alone is so so bent ,massif deception with most favs none triers instructed ,by bent trainers who feed the bookies enough to easily pay anything .
They don't have the worst reputation but ye all much the same, limitations etc.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Agree they are all in the same cess pit. I guess you just had an incident with Betfred, but they all operate the same mate!
A local bookie with a rep is what you need.
The majority of your audience is from the UK, but the link you’ve added in the description can’t be used in the UK. What’s the point of that then?
Betinasia isn’t available to me in the UK!??
Same here
How to open now pinnacle acc from uk? Any broker who allow uk customers?
We need to boycott the industry. See how they get on with just the addicted to feed on. Can’t see them living as well, personally.
were i bet in some country in betting parlour never had a problem collecting i dont bet online
How can i use bet Asia in the UK
Why the f’ck are people still handing over their money to these companies?
Caan the thing that jumps out at me from the examples you give is that with the exception of skybet they’re all bookies with decent reputations so far as paying out is concerned.
Yet there are plenty of very dubious bookies with appalling reputations-mainly foreign ones- and yet they barely feature in these kind of videos.
Think I saw 32red recently but surprisingly few others . Do you not get lots of complaints about the lesser bookies then ?
Not in my experience, Anthony. My inbox and DM's every day gets new cases sent to me an they're usually about the same companies (many of those mentioned). The small ones are pretty bad too but sometimes people don't realise they're actually owned by the big ones too. Happy for you to bring specific cases to my attention, not familiar with the 32 red one will take a look.
Nonsense. Betfair and Paddypower are all owned by the same giant company as Skybet Flutter 'Entertainment' Decent reputation unless you win.
The likelihood is the major players will feature more because they have more customers, I suppose
So a student put a £25,000 bet on a lucky 12
Wtf
Most of these were correct tbf
The 1st one was a mug punter account and was a constant loser losing chump change then sticks on a 25k bet 😂
The Messi one was also correct, he had 1 shot on target and the other was a blatant cross, funny how you onky showed the shot which produced the goal then left out the other one which was clearly a cross
But it was on target regardless if it was a cross or not
How can you use bet asia if you live in th uk ?
They don't accept UK customers, take a look at the terms and limitations. Frustrating I know but not everyone's in the UK.
@CaanBerryProTrader are there any that do without restricting your bets? Betconnect did for a while then they wanted all the usual rubbish proof of income bank statements etc.
Why do they allow crooks to own shops?
I wonder if people know a bet does not have to be hounered
The Ladbrokes one is just stupidity on the cashiers part and not Ladbrokes. Any bettor with half a braincell knows that they would never get an acca on those selections. If they wanted a price on it snowing in all of those places it would have been a special odds request to the traders who in all honesty would probably refuse it or give an incredibly low price. Also, Terms and Conditions have maximum payouts. Notice how this one didn't go to court or anything, the customer knew he was trying it on.
A time traveller/s needs to win big and teach a6 lessons to these companies ❤🎉
I dont withdraw more than £150 because im scared they wouldn't pay it out anyway lol but that does make for shorter time gambling and with a £150 monthly limit and £40 weekly its nice to gamble responsibily nowadays 😇
lol
I know cliff Bryant now working for the post office
Being pedantic. British judges don't have gavels. US judges do.
Sports and bookies work together ever wondered why first half 2 nill up second half give the ball away lol
Yes, a conflict of interests especially when half the PL are sponsored by betting companies! People like Betway, pay the PL to advertise at very times round the pitch. You start getting very odd decisions like Sheff United, getting a last minute penalty against West Ham, when the player fouled the keeper.
The first one with Bet 365 is clearly a breach there is no way a student had £25k it was obviously staked for other punters with restrictions so they were lucky to get a payout there. The William Hill one an advantage player who managed to get too much on. I don’t blame them for not paying out, was probably a runner for a bigger punter. Should have had SOW done on him before the bet was even taken. So many fraudsters about in the betting industry.
Did betred also hav to pay the court costs when they lost
I would have thought so.
Unbelievable
Sickening so quick to take money
All the friction only seems to come after they have the money! Mad it's allowed to go on...
Bloody criminal these bookies well apart from the white Christmas bet what do u expect on that oh come on
Pointless video basically saying use Bet Asia which is great but you can't do it from England! If you can please tell me how?
Move to some other country .
Thats why crypto casinos topping the online gambling like stake
The snow one was obvious
Not to Ladbrokes it wasn't, or their many automated systems. Mad how they can't get the bets right but can profile every inch of a customers life isn't it
Will you get banned for winning if using a betting exchange like betfair exchange evan if not a massive sum say u kept making a profit will u get gubbed i had a quick look on there site once but everthing a bit confusing i only wanna place normall like ew and win on horses not really bothers about match better dont have a scooby how to macth bet
Ladbrokes were right, you can't accumulate winnings on a single event.
If ladbrokes were right, why did they accept the bet? They don't in Australia because the law states that they have to pay it out if they took the bet, even as a mistake (Ladbrokes). Miraculous how they don't alter their systems to stop such bets being taken in the UK isn't it? Or is it because they know its a way of keeping extra money because they can do such shitty things?
@@CaanBerryProTrader How would a cashier know it was an accumulated bet? They don't even read the things half the time other than the stake amount, the till works out the return if there is one. They didn't keep the money, they paid out on all single bets, which is correct. I bet the customer knew he was pulling a fast one though.
The same way they do (same company) in Austalia - the till system. The company are the ones pulling a fast one - there's no excuse for it in 2024. They didn't pay out anywhere near the full amount, if you read the articles the customer was oblivious. If these companies can track every inch of a customers life and ensure they only accept valid slips where they operate in other countries they can do it here. It's just that its more profitable for them to pull a fast one, I have zero sympathy for them.
@@CaanBerryProTrader I get what you are saying, but it's a related bet and clearly covered in the rules. You can't bet on a horse to win and get a place as a double, it's treated as two singles. So why would they let you bet on a white xmas in Newcastle and Sunderland as a double? It's almost impossible not to be both, or neither.
They probably didn't advertise this at the time, as the marketers don't always understand betting.
It also says that they can keep your money if someone has transfered you money (third party betting) in their rules, or that if they believe you have colluded with someone (like betting tips they advertise). I understand what a related contingency is, but the responsibilty is on them (they manage it elsewhere as I said). We're not in a 1960's smoke filled betting shop with no computer anymore - there's no excuse. Blaming the marketing team or the cashier is weak, these companies turn over billions every year and track thousands of data points, they could at least sort their core business out instead of blaming the customer after the fact. The same company even advertised related contingencies in the past, its boring, its never their fault and they get to keep the money - ridiculous.
Everyone who is gamblem is worth less than zero
Giving half the story in order to get people to sign up to your links..
What bookies would u recommend using??
He is recommending Asian bookies that you can't open an account with as a citizen of the UK! Unless he wishes to explain how we can, seems a bit odd.
Not everyone's in the UK!
Check out the other replies!
@@CaanBerryProTrader True good point. I truly hate all bookies with a passion. I have had over 50 accounts banned/restricted Caan. The best was this year when Betfair did the ol' we care safer gambling compulsory nonsense chat. I said the only problem I have with gambling is getting enough of a bet on as you restrict winners and want losers. As well as no BOG etc even if they do let you have a little go with a tenner or whatever. With that comment they then claimed I had an issue with gambling and banned me (self exclusion they called it) for 6 months. Of course this also affected the rest of the Mafia Cartel of Paddypower, Skybet and even my $10 Sunday Pokerstars game was affected as banned on that too. Had no idea they were all the same group until then! They are digusting in every way. PS Thanks for exposing them and for all the video's. I just wish we could all open an account in Asia. Of course the corrupt Government wont allow it as it is all one big stitch up to the punter. But remember they care, safer gambling......PLEASE LOSE! :)
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LadBrokes....BrokeLads
Its a mugs game 😅
Bloody thieves