When Lian Li came out with the Unifans, I knew it was only a matter of time before other companies followed suit. It's too good a feature not to get in on the action.
I was thinking the same thing. It's nice to see another competitor finally implementing a fan connector similar to the Uni fans. Inversing the fans was also really smart, one of the things I dislike about most other fans is the massive bars on the back. As long as the performance is good They'll be on my list of potential upgrades. It will be interesting to see what they price these at. If they compete with the uni fans for cost/effectiveness I think they'll do really well.
@@diebanane4239 Oh, I never saw that, thanks. So that will put them at roughly the same cost as the Uni fans. makes sense Let's hope they don't change the price between now and the full release. I also hope they don't price the variants differently, though I don't see why they would.
@@everchangingworld11 Yeah, that is my hope as well. Also, because the triple bundle just comes in one "direction" (either all intake or all exhaust) many need to get 3 separate ones to fill their needs, which, of course, raises the price a little bit.
They still haven’t released a 140mm version of the T30 yet. Probably need one of those first before we see a 140mm of these. Regardless, I want… Almost enough to go all 120mm on my next build if I have too.
Ikr... should've happened at the start of the RGB craze really :D I have already seen countless builds where people just sacrificed some cooling performance in favor of the looks by mounting them the wrong way..
@@imahustlah3609 Yeah I just found out as well, tho it is also a relatively recent product, so our points are still valid I'd say, lets hope all major companies will follow this trend.
@@imahustlah3609 Somebody has some with swappable fan blades. Can't remember who. Just pop one or the other blade on depending on which way you want flow.
I like Phanteks Halos - even, softer, diffuse lighting is nice - so I'm quite interested in the new fans. The air coolers look promising, too, especially for the pricing. Competing with Scythe at ~$60 price point for the T6.
Looking forward to seeing what performance ends up looking like for these coolers. One thing I will say about that 360mm AIO costing $250: I can go buy a retail priced Liquid Freezer II and 3 pack of T30s for it for $225 and end up with the performance of the T30 on a 38mm thick radiator. I have a hard time believing that their pump/block design is enough better to outperform a radiator which is a bit over 25% thicker.
I believe they are called Be Quiet! Light Wings. Or put Phanteks Halos on Silent Wings Pro 4, which are better noise-normalized than even Noctua industrial (iPPC-3000) - or put them on Noctuas if you really want (have done this before and they look good). Noctua makes good fans, especially in more niche sizes, but there's plenty of competition at 120mm and especially 140mm (their updated design is yet again delayed).
I love Phanteks, they're masters in design. The D30 fans look incredible, definitely picking those up when they release. Hope we get a 140mm version as well.
I'd be curious about the ease of install on the Phanteks fan implementation, Lian LI already has 3 versions of their click together fan but all require a hub, if these just plug into the motherboard that could be a plus in systems where you don't have the room to manage extra SATA connections, a USB connection and drgb connection like you do with the Lian LI fan hubs
"Lian LI already has 3 versions of their click together fan but all require a hub" That's not true. The SL and AL fans could be plugged in to 5V ARGB headers by using JST/5V splitter cables. The SL Infinity fans can be bought as single packs that have 5V ARGB connectors on them.
Great video, thank you for the coverage! Phanteks makes another "T30" model, D30 RGB instead of a T30 140mm, how long can it take to design a 140mm version of that fan, many years? This is starting to be embarrassing for them. I can also see they joined the "greed-train" with insane prices for AIO's. Arctic Liquid Freezer will curb stomp them in the value department, 420mm AIO from them costs 160$ for RGB-version and 106$ for non-RGB. Companies really need to stop being insanely greedy, they don't understand that people have less money now but still wants to force increase their own profit margin.
Finally some more options on this. Lian Li is going to have some competition with there uni fans. I have been putting the uni fans on all the systems I build because of the less wire clutter. I can't wait for full reviews to see how these perform.
They haven't been getting much attention, but the M25 fans Phanteks released recently are fantastic as well in my opinion. I bought 6 for my rig, and they move an insane amount of air for how quiet they are.
Hmm, I prefer the side profile of the Lian Li Uni Fan v2...these seem like they were made with the direct on view in mind, which definitely works better with some configurations, but I wouldn't call this the best fan, flat out. Also, I'd be more interested in a white version of the T30s without RGB
If these perform like the T30s, I'll definitely buy into it. But I'm sceptical, these look completely different, the D30 doesn't use liquid crystal polymer for their blades.
Weren't there many problems with this Halo Lux rings? I saw a lot of people complaining about some of the led colors no longer working after a few months of usage?
The old Glacier One 240 T30 (Gen1) was 38mm thick, not 27mm which the video mentions. The T30 fans will not be fully utilized on the Gen2 if they didn't increase the fins-per-inch to counteract the 20% reduction in thickness/fin surface area. Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 will most likely still be better than the Gen2 because its 38mm. I was really looking forward to 360 T30 aio but looks like they won't be worth it over liquid freezer.
Really like the reversed airflow editions... When I saw your previous vid about the NV7 I thought all the fans were installed in an exhaust config making me shake my head :D
If I got an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 and replaced the stock fans with these new D30-120's from phanteks, would they be equal to or better in terms of cooling? I'm assuming it's a Yes. Reason Im asking is that I'd like to use just the 1 brand of fans inside my build I'm planning for syncing the rgb lights. Otherwise do you think the ARGB fans on the LF II will sync fine? cheers
I don’t think this channel ever reviewed the Unifans. This is basically a clone. Man, Phanteks is the king of copying other brands-first the Noctua rip with the T30, now this copy of the Unifan.
@@KonohasYeIlowFlash are you fucking retarded? The T30 is a completely different fan from the Noctua fans. Then by that exact logic I can say Noctua copied the Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans.
fandude / fanboy would be an awesome salesman. if there were trading cards for computer fans, he would likely have a sick collection. stay safe and thank you sir.
Not a huge fan of the overcomplicated RGB designs tbh. I'd just prefer the double blade lighting and ring, without all the additional angular lines on the sides and faces. Love that they made a reversed one, definitely needs to be a standard.
These are the fans I've always wanted, but these days I like subtle rgb a lot more. Wish more cases had tinted tempered glass for that reason. Brings it down a bit. But damn, these fans are sick
I just put my build together with a phanteks 360aio (which i friggin love) and went with lian li al120 fans - if these had been out - I would have just used these. I love Phanteks!!!!
9:34 RIP this AIO the second Lian-Li announces their new AIO and it probably won't even beat the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 right now, let alone a III, which they probably have sitting and waiting, until someone comes along and thinks they've stole the show
I ordered a set of these for my Fractal North front intake... but sadly they won't fit, as 25mm thickness is the maximum. Bummer, this wasn't mentioned anywhere in the manual or any youtube videos.
Fan makers really need to get on the 140mm train. It should be the new standard size. Also, I’m tired of case makers doing 120mm exhaust fan mounting. Give me 140!!! And I want to see more 280 and 420mm AIO’s and case support!
Still prefer the Lian Li Infinity fans. Wish they will come out with reverse airflow versions though - the infinity mirror is part of the look and most airflow configurations do not allow for it to be seen.
why don't the air coolers get a t30 option? maybe not the s4 but it would be nice for the s5, right? t6 with two t30 - even more interesting. also no t30 in 140mm? missed opportunity.
What about the thing that actually matters? Performance. Why are we lusting over pretty lights? They look great, and the T30 is an excellent fan (140mm please) but it appears that these sacrifice that crown for the sake of looking prettier? I stare at my monitor, not my rig.
2 years ago Lian Li introduced their unifan model, I was one of the first ppl to run and buy them at launch, 4 fans one cable, sign me up. now we see more and more manufacturers do the same and getting rid of all those nasty ugly cables that just make it harder and take longer to build a PC with. i knew it was only a matter of time until the rest of them implement the idea. Here's to hoping for a "no cables unifans" that get wireless power lmao
FINALLY, reversed configuration... This has been such a pain not to have. It forced me to buy overpriced Corsair QL fans, because those had the least horrible looking backside, but the LED diffusion was pretty disappointing on those fans actually.
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When Lian Li came out with the Unifans, I knew it was only a matter of time before other companies followed suit. It's too good a feature not to get in on the action.
I was thinking the same thing. It's nice to see another competitor finally implementing a fan connector similar to the Uni fans. Inversing the fans was also really smart, one of the things I dislike about most other fans is the massive bars on the back. As long as the performance is good They'll be on my list of potential upgrades.
It will be interesting to see what they price these at. If they compete with the uni fans for cost/effectiveness I think they'll do really well.
Also the O11 series cases, Montech NZXT Phanteks ASUS everybody has their O11 lmao😂
@@diebanane4239 Oh, I never saw that, thanks. So that will put them at roughly the same cost as the Uni fans. makes sense
Let's hope they don't change the price between now and the full release. I also hope they don't price the variants differently, though I don't see why they would.
@@everchangingworld11 Yeah, that is my hope as well. Also, because the triple bundle just comes in one "direction" (either all intake or all exhaust) many need to get 3 separate ones to fill their needs, which, of course, raises the price a little bit.
Yup. And they can charge an arm and leg for them too :)
Nice to see more reverse flow fans hitting the market. Hopefully they follow up with a 140mm varient
looking forward for 140mm version, hopefully under 80 bucks for a tripple fan kit
This!
They still haven’t released a 140mm version of the T30 yet. Probably need one of those first before we see a 140mm of these.
Regardless, I want… Almost enough to go all 120mm on my next build if I have too.
It's a really nice touch. But yeah, I'd prefer a 140mm T30 too.
@@Xenoray1 Based on the pricing of the existing T30 fans, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
God, finally a fan with a reverse orientation. I'm shocked it's taken this long.
Ikr... should've happened at the start of the RGB craze really :D I have already seen countless builds where people just sacrificed some cooling performance in favor of the looks by mounting them the wrong way..
Thermaltake has some like this already
@@imahustlah3609 Yeah I just found out as well, tho it is also a relatively recent product, so our points are still valid I'd say, lets hope all major companies will follow this trend.
@@imahustlah3609 Somebody has some with swappable fan blades. Can't remember who. Just pop one or the other blade on depending on which way you want flow.
Thermaltake came out with one not too long ago, but they are 'meh'
I'm glad more manufacturers are adopting Lian Li's Uni fan design.
Only YEARS later smh
Idc tbh, Lian Li is the first one to find the daisy chain fans before anyone else.
So I'll skip this Phanteks fans.
I like Phanteks Halos - even, softer, diffuse lighting is nice - so I'm quite interested in the new fans. The air coolers look promising, too, especially for the pricing. Competing with Scythe at ~$60 price point for the T6.
Hmmm, their dual tower cooler looks promissing, but it has already one drawback ... not considering tall memory kits.
@@dorientjewoller113 true, offset/asymmetric coolers give you more compatibility there
SilverStone has something like a RGB light ring for 120 and 140mm fans on their website.
So glad to see Mike so often, he's such a wholesome host!
Hopefully they do the Halo fans in 140mm size, would be incredibly keen on getting them.
Looking forward to seeing what performance ends up looking like for these coolers.
One thing I will say about that 360mm AIO costing $250: I can go buy a retail priced Liquid Freezer II and 3 pack of T30s for it for $225 and end up with the performance of the T30 on a 38mm thick radiator. I have a hard time believing that their pump/block design is enough better to outperform a radiator which is a bit over 25% thicker.
Bruh the world need's black Noctua's with RGB.
To each their own, imho, the world could use a touch less RGB.
95% of RGB looks excessive and tasteless.
I believe they are called Be Quiet! Light Wings. Or put Phanteks Halos on Silent Wings Pro 4, which are better noise-normalized than even Noctua industrial (iPPC-3000) - or put them on Noctuas if you really want (have done this before and they look good). Noctua makes good fans, especially in more niche sizes, but there's plenty of competition at 120mm and especially 140mm (their updated design is yet again delayed).
I think noctua should not only produce audibley silent fans but visually silent fans too… it’s niche but clean
There are enough RGB fans in the world and don’t give them a reason to charge more exorbitant prices.
I love Phanteks, they're masters in design. The D30 fans look incredible, definitely picking those up when they release. Hope we get a 140mm version as well.
the background music sounds sick on a 5.1 system
So exhaust is push
And intake is pull
Right?
For the fans that are sold push and pull what connector is used? JST?
Uni fans needs to be a normal for fans now a days, need to eliminate as much cables as possible with daisy chain ability
I'd be curious about the ease of install on the Phanteks fan implementation, Lian LI already has 3 versions of their click together fan but all require a hub, if these just plug into the motherboard that could be a plus in systems where you don't have the room to manage extra SATA connections, a USB connection and drgb connection like you do with the Lian LI fan hubs
"Lian LI already has 3 versions of their click together fan but all require a hub"
That's not true. The SL and AL fans could be plugged in to 5V ARGB headers by using JST/5V splitter cables. The SL Infinity fans can be bought as single packs that have 5V ARGB connectors on them.
Great video, thank you for the coverage!
Phanteks makes another "T30" model, D30 RGB instead of a T30 140mm, how long can it take to design a 140mm version of that fan, many years? This is starting to be embarrassing for them. I can also see they joined the "greed-train" with insane prices for AIO's. Arctic Liquid Freezer will curb stomp them in the value department, 420mm AIO from them costs 160$ for RGB-version and 106$ for non-RGB. Companies really need to stop being insanely greedy, they don't understand that people have less money now but still wants to force increase their own profit margin.
Noctua is also taking their sweet time with just making their fans white.
Finally some more options on this. Lian Li is going to have some competition with there uni fans. I have been putting the uni fans on all the systems I build because of the less wire clutter. I can't wait for full reviews to see how these perform.
Did you ask the Phanteks reps if they were considering a 140mm version of the T30 and this new RGB version?
They been working on it for a while
Are 140mm versions coming too? Or just the T30 as 140mm would be awesome, too.
I have to say, Mike is now on the whole other level, compared to the time when he "came back"... Good work there, Mike! 👍
Phanteks are KILLING it. The NV7 is a proper banger of a case, and these fans are also totally legit 🔥
yeah i personally would get the D30-120 just because of reversible versions
Getting both for my new build with 13900k, Z790 Aorus xtreme and 4090 suprim.
They haven't been getting much attention, but the M25 fans Phanteks released recently are fantastic as well in my opinion. I bought 6 for my rig, and they move an insane amount of air for how quiet they are.
@@PreciseGameplay got reviews of it? can't see much of it
Hmm, I prefer the side profile of the Lian Li Uni Fan v2...these seem like they were made with the direct on view in mind, which definitely works better with some configurations, but I wouldn't call this the best fan, flat out. Also, I'd be more interested in a white version of the T30s without RGB
Much rather have a 140mm version of the infinity fans.
Clickbaiting every sponsored new launch has a "bEsT pRoDuCt eVeR"
Do these have the magnetic bearings like the t30?
Good afternoon For top-of-the-chassis heatsinks, which fans should I use with normal or reverse airflow? Air will be blown out of the housing.
just checking are these clips quite frimly grip to each other?
The fans really look beautiful, I like the metal hub as well!
How many leds does the Phanteks D30 use?
Finally, I can consider a different fan besides Lian Li! Good work Phanteks!! 👏
If these perform like the T30s, I'll definitely buy into it.
But I'm sceptical, these look completely different, the D30 doesn't use liquid crystal polymer for their blades.
Good to see more modular connectivity. It's a big reason why I went with the Arctic Bionix P120 ARGB.
Was on the Phantek website and these D30-120 Fans are not listed ?
When are these available for purchase ?
Weren't there many problems with this Halo Lux rings? I saw a lot of people complaining about some of the led colors no longer working after a few months of usage?
So when you daisy chain these do you lose the ability to control the RGB on each fan separately?
Does reverse push and pull ?
Hopefully they come out with a 140mm variant of those fans. My CPU rad is 280, my GPU rad is 140, so I need both dimensions...
The old Glacier One 240 T30 (Gen1) was 38mm thick, not 27mm which the video mentions. The T30 fans will not be fully utilized on the Gen2 if they didn't increase the fins-per-inch to counteract the 20% reduction in thickness/fin surface area. Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 will most likely still be better than the Gen2 because its 38mm. I was really looking forward to 360 T30 aio but looks like they won't be worth it over liquid freezer.
for this, can you also do push/pull configuration for 360 radiators?
Really like the reversed airflow editions... When I saw your previous vid about the NV7 I thought all the fans were installed in an exhaust config making me shake my head :D
Man CES is exploding in my youtube feeds. I LOVE IT. :)
If I got an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 and replaced the stock fans with these new D30-120's from phanteks, would they be equal to or better in terms of cooling? I'm assuming it's a Yes. Reason Im asking is that I'd like to use just the 1 brand of fans inside my build I'm planning for syncing the rgb lights. Otherwise do you think the ARGB fans on the LF II will sync fine? cheers
Phanteks and bequiet are my two fav brands. Love the styling of their products.
how do you get that rgb? i have these but cant get thhat rgb like you have? or do i need to buy a phanteks rgb hub ?
Lian Li Unifan is King
So expensive for a full case unfortunately
I don’t think this channel ever reviewed the Unifans. This is basically a clone. Man, Phanteks is the king of copying other brands-first the Noctua rip with the T30, now this copy of the Unifan.
@@KonohasYeIlowFlash are you fucking retarded? The T30 is a completely different fan from the Noctua fans. Then by that exact logic I can say Noctua copied the Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans.
This^
Arctic p12 ARGB would like to differ.
When will the fans D-series come out? Or if they alredy came out, where to buy them? They really loog great.
We're hearing May.
@@HardwareCanucks ohhhhh so i have to wait that long for them????
fandude / fanboy would be an awesome salesman. if there were trading cards for computer fans, he would likely have a sick collection. stay safe and thank you sir.
When will this coming out?
I've dreamed of a T30 crossed with a Unifan! My prayers have been answered!
Lian Li looking at Phanteks very suspiciously
so if i buy the reversed it’s an intake?
Thanks for all your videos you do Mike, you really helped me in choosing my parts for my sff build.
so glad you guys are covering the even in person like this!
Not a huge fan of the overcomplicated RGB designs tbh. I'd just prefer the double blade lighting and ring, without all the additional angular lines on the sides and faces.
Love that they made a reversed one, definitely needs to be a standard.
Phateks is really one of my favorite brand for cases & fans, again !
These are the fans I've always wanted, but these days I like subtle rgb a lot more. Wish more cases had tinted tempered glass for that reason. Brings it down a bit. But damn, these fans are sick
I just put my build together with a phanteks 360aio (which i friggin love) and went with lian li al120 fans - if these had been out - I would have just used these. I love Phanteks!!!!
for some odd reason i'm not surprised that it was fanteks out of all of them that was paying attention to what Lian li had been doing
9:34 RIP this AIO the second Lian-Li announces their new AIO and it probably won't even beat the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 right now, let alone a III, which they probably have sitting and waiting, until someone comes along and thinks they've stole the show
Whats the price on this? Are they going to be cheaper than Uni fans?
I like the Lian Li Unifans, but I feel like Phanteks has taken the that and made it even better with these.
Nah the unifan infinity’s are better.
When I saw the first pictures of that fan:
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
That's a pretty slick solution!
I ordered a set of these for my Fractal North front intake... but sadly they won't fit, as 25mm thickness is the maximum. Bummer, this wasn't mentioned anywhere in the manual or any youtube videos.
Phanteks if you're reading this, these guys are making me want to buy your products
So you can have up to 4 fans on 1 pwm port on your motherboard?
That depends on the port rating and fan specs.
@@deviantbuilds Say an Asus Prime z790 wifi and the Corsair LL 120 fans in a 5000D Airflow.
Fan makers really need to get on the 140mm train. It should be the new standard size. Also, I’m tired of case makers doing 120mm exhaust fan mounting. Give me 140!!! And I want to see more 280 and 420mm AIO’s and case support!
Hotter GPUs and CPUs get with the bigger wattage necessary, cooling market has to innovate big time.
This fans reminded me of TRON~ invcluding the NV7 case, put tron figure and lightcycle = perfection
Any idea when the release date going to be? Doing a build soon and will like to know.
Around March
Lian Li is the Godzilla and other brands are becoming their own version of Mechagodzilla
Don't need new fans right now but I do want my next set to be able to flow through the rgb effects.
The air coolers look sick! The aio is REALLY expensive for what it is tho...
I don't think the air coolers are that expensive. But the Aios of all brand cost a alot...
Still prefer the Lian Li Infinity fans. Wish they will come out with reverse airflow versions though - the infinity mirror is part of the look and most airflow configurations do not allow for it to be seen.
is the fan gonna have replaceable blade like those thermaltake fan or is it separate fan altogether? if it separate that's gonna suck
Their own model
I'm just glad I've never bothered with RGB at all. Instant disable on everything and thankful noctua perform without any lights at all.
@hardware canucks do we have dims on these fans? I am looking mainly for their thickness if you happen to know.
30mm thick
@@HardwareCanucks nice thank you!
why don't the air coolers get a t30 option? maybe not the s4 but it would be nice for the s5, right? t6 with two t30 - even more interesting. also no t30 in 140mm? missed opportunity.
Me with only Itx builds with no fans in none of them, only the cpu cooler and power supply fans
What about the thing that actually matters? Performance.
Why are we lusting over pretty lights?
They look great, and the T30 is an excellent fan (140mm please) but it appears that these sacrifice that crown for the sake of looking prettier? I stare at my monitor, not my rig.
Let's see if the Phanteks cooler can compete with the new Snowman coolers.
I need those fans
hope they came up with the solution for those annoying wire fans, really miss those times wayback when pc fans have only 4pin molex
These move plenty of air. Only have 3 installed in my pc. And everything stays cool
welp guess im holding out on rgb fans til these come out sm nicer than the lian li daisey chains hopefully not more expensive
Amazing products from Phanteks. Waiting for AIOs and Air cooler test)
So its basically basically a Lian li Uni fan design with Phanteks Halo ring stuff
These look amazing!
Fans look good, we are waiting for their version without rgb
I am huge fan of this video
Been asking for reversed fans for 10 years. Finally they listened!
Lian Li having kicked off a trend with this design. I am happy to see others adapting it.
You cant beat lian li infinity but the reverse blades are amazing
2 years ago Lian Li introduced their unifan model, I was one of the first ppl to run and buy them at launch, 4 fans one cable, sign me up. now we see more and more manufacturers do the same and getting rid of all those nasty ugly cables that just make it harder and take longer to build a PC with. i knew it was only a matter of time until the rest of them implement the idea. Here's to hoping for a "no cables unifans" that get wireless power lmao
Luckily for me I don't need fans for my Xproto-L open build. Saves me £300 that I can put towards the 4090 :P
amazing. PERFORMANCE IS KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY, reversed configuration... This has been such a pain not to have. It forced me to buy overpriced Corsair QL fans, because those had the least horrible looking backside, but the LED diffusion was pretty disappointing on those fans actually.
Phanteks D30-120 fan price?
30 a piece 85 triple pack
Im worried about the ram clearance for that new aio. Thicker radiator + thick T30 fans.
Actually slimer than before
Hope to buy them soon, nice review
Hopefully those asetek pumps are quieter than last gen.
We didn't get performance numbers for the new fans??
It's CES, probably get that later when they are ready for reviewers to be sampled