I absolutely love how everyone while reading through the changes thought Graviton was gonna be absolutely mid, but it's probably one of the best pulse rifles in the game atm
I had no idea until today that those orbs after a kill one shot guardians. In the current meta where it seems like absolutely everyone holds hands it's pretty damn good.
Nah the second I saw it was getting the revision zero treatment I was excited. Lo and behold shit is juiced and I’m for sure using it before it gets “adjusted”.
I've been using Grav for years, and it's always been a lane monster, BUT fairly often the enemy gets away with 1hp, so an rpm bump was probably the right move for this gun, they may have over cooked it a bit though... Should also be noted, Grav flinches like a mutha on the receiving end!
We are this close to them reissuing a fixed wardens law. We are so lucky sunshot requires good accuracy. It's nice that the 3 og elemental exotics are in a good place right now.
They don’t be if RUclipsrs stop making videos saying it’s the most broken gun in the game when it’s not most rapid fire frames will out trade you people need to chill with this shit before they nerf it to the ground
@@bluntasticexactly it's so annoying that a gun that was trash is now decent an everyone is like o my gosh the best gun in the whole world of destiny!!!!
I’m very excited for this, it’s my fav pve exotic and it’s finally viable in pvp. It seems like a beast in hand cannon range, but even in the hands of the mighty Frahbo it seems unwieldy at long range. Probably a good trade off. The fact you can effectively peek shoot with it is really nice.
This was my favorite gun. Used it for years, it was the first exotic I ever got during the red war. And after being butt buddies with this thing for 8 years these changes have made me put it down. It's sad but as someone who truly simps for this gun, it's like seeing someone you love being a completely different person. And not only that but their copying another person who you don't even like (revision zero)
It's literally the same damage per burst and ttk as Revision Zero's 2-burst mode. I have no idea why people are freaking out about Graviton when Re:Zero has been sitting here this whole time with a better stat package and exotic perk.
Yeah I was confused why frabo was so surprised because graviton has been good for seasons. And like you said rev zero is the same thing essentially. Funny too because with new chromatic fire you can make rev zero seem like grav lance
This was my first ever exotic I got on destiny 2 after leaving the game for a while (I was an OG Destiny 1 player) I’m glad it got buffed it needed a buff.
TBH i miss when it used to be a 3-shot pulse. It was my fave exotic for PvP/PvE. when they nerfed it to a 2-shot, it completely broke my heart because there wasn't anything wrong with it in the first place 😢😢😢😢
@@deathbringer1582 it used to have a 3-shot burst when it first dropped. The first two bullets would be low damage and the third would be high damage, plus the sound fx were really nice (wasn't as high pitched as it is now).
You’re so wrong lmaooo, no one used this gun in y1 because of the 3 shot burst. It got a buff to be a 2 shot so you can hit the high damage shot more consistently. Then it became meta in PvP, you have no idea wtf you are talking about
I have barely used this weapon before so even to this day I have absolutely no idea how this weapon works. Do kills have splash damage like chain reaction? Do the void orbs have tracking or do they just bounce to random directions? Do the orbs have splash damage? If those get a kill, do they spawn more?
Kills don't have splash damage but they do spawn a cluster of void orbs, those orbs will track to an enemy if close enough and can do considerable damage and no they don't spawn more if the orbs kill a target, it has to be a kill with the weapon. Great exotic though.
Bro I swear the crucible is full of them now, the grav users are everywhere lol the new seasons hand cannon has been pretty cool for me. Got the cool taken glow effect and its pretty solid if I can get those crits
I’d pay over 200 dollars for bungie to never nerf graviton Lance. Use to barely use it after the catalyst was done the. Threw it in the vault but yesterday holy shit it feels like a rapid fire frame but hitting like an aggressive frame. Never expected to get 30 plus with graviton Lance I use to struggle with it. Not anymore it melts and I love it
It’s 300 rounds per minute but has a two round burst. So rly if all that damage was in a single bullet then it’s a 150 rpm scout. That’s why it shreds now
lol this is taking me back some years to when there was a lot of complaining about Graviton Lance, then it got nerfed into being a meme and now its back.
This thing has always been my baby, big G11 fan all the way in Black Ops and instantly fell in love when D2 launched Forsaken and i got my hands on Graviton. Now that its even better, probably never going to leave my inventory
this rework has kinda made it a bit too strong, the backload was done for a reason, you could play for the body to head pulse like you where using headseeker, and it was already strong, but with the change to first shot buff, it became a scout, had they just changed the first shot buff, it would have been a good change that makes it more competitive however by making it shoot even faster, its become a straight up nightmare right out of year 1, its gonna dominate the meta especially once people start putting together strong void builds
@@manmeetsdestiny6921 what made messenger strong is desperado, somthing that can be rolled on other aggressive frames, like the duality pulse, no time has great recoil for am aggressive frame and the perk can help clean up if you gain momentum, however, neither of these get any boost from your build outside of the basic, handling/targeting armor mods, but with the graviton you get a free axion grenade, with catalyst it gets vorpal, and on shield break you get overshield, and on top of that, a cohesive void build and you have a monster of a weapon, mark my words it will be meta especially with capture point trials
@@samsterling3332relax bro don't drink the RUclipsr Kool aid. Graviton now has a .87 ttk, the cosmology while good is literally the equivalent to sunshots explosion an will only punish campy players. Essentially Graviton is now competitive cause it went from being an ass sandwich of a 1.00 ttk to .87. If you think that's crazy wait until you use an aggressive frame or high impact frame pulse heck use a rapid fire frame pulse than come back.
@ArticOnePlus25 Yeah idk, me personally I have more trouble with strong guns with lots a range vs something like immortal. I didn't really have much issue with immortal since it was close to medium range, Graviton is just nuts and juiced so it will be great at the ranges immortal wasnt. It would also pair great with sidearm or shotgun for closer ranges. When I was using immortal I felt like I had to snipe in 3s for range coverage personally and overall I think Graviton and any other closer range option is easier overall to use. Not to mention because of the fast 2 burst you can corner peak pretty easily, and if you happen to get lucky can get multi kills off the exotic perk. And thats not even touching the catalyst which makes it great vs supers
i dont get how people would hit the first shot yet miss the second. I personally hate this "buff" because its actually doing less damage in PvE where grav lance is supposed to shine. now its a PvP weapon and that pisses me off.
I feel like Bungie is trying to kill PvP at this point. We've already been trotting through a pulse meta for a while now, and Bungie's response is to make yet another pulse a uncomeatable three-tap nuisance. If this is the route Bungie wants to take, they might as well un-nerf 120 Handcannons and 600rpm Autos and high range SMGS back to their strength of their meta eras, and introduce some actual fucking competition. I should call her.
I absolutely love how everyone while reading through the changes thought Graviton was gonna be absolutely mid, but it's probably one of the best pulse rifles in the game atm
Dude what are u talking about no body said that shit lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
* no time to explain reading this*
I had no idea until today that those orbs after a kill one shot guardians. In the current meta where it seems like absolutely everyone holds hands it's pretty damn good.
Nah the second I saw it was getting the revision zero treatment I was excited. Lo and behold shit is juiced and I’m for sure using it before it gets “adjusted”.
Everyone must be coo coo or just a straight up bot NPC because grav lance has always been this good
I didnt know this until today, but this weapon has both Vorpal AND turnabout for its catalyst.
Feels really good.
Imo it was always good especially with the catalyst making it even better it was just really power crept
@@supasyanide now we need to wait until thorn gets this treatment
I've gone from literally never dying to a graviton before to now, hey everyone 4 players on the other team with graviton.
I wish; I am getting two-tap by new stasis titan mains.
@@Bookerjj you’re probably playing in a higher elo.
Welcome to year 1 D2 lol
From smg to Larry lanes damn Bungie hates pvp players
I've been using Grav for years, and it's always been a lane monster, BUT fairly often the enemy gets away with 1hp, so an rpm bump was probably the right move for this gun, they may have over cooked it a bit though...
Should also be noted, Grav flinches like a mutha on the receiving end!
This is giving me bad flashbacks when graviton was all over the place the first time
I wonder how a G Falcon build would do with this, volatile collats
Last season it was cracked...
@@samgreen8582 could still be used, get volatile coming out of invis
It's cracked in pve, I tried that combo in pvp a couple seasons ago and it was kinda meh. Might be a good option now though.
@@ugrena7419 yea I alternate between graviton and collective in pve, collective wasn’t really hitting in pvp and graviton wasn’t even thought of lol
It slaps and just wait until you unlock all the void perks in the artifact
We are this close to them reissuing a fixed wardens law.
We are so lucky sunshot requires good accuracy. It's nice that the 3 og elemental exotics are in a good place right now.
They don’t be if RUclipsrs stop making videos saying it’s the most broken gun in the game when it’s not most rapid fire frames will out trade you people need to chill with this shit before they nerf it to the ground
@@bluntasticexactly it's so annoying that a gun that was trash is now decent an everyone is like o my gosh the best gun in the whole world of destiny!!!!
I’m very excited for this, it’s my fav pve exotic and it’s finally viable in pvp. It seems like a beast in hand cannon range, but even in the hands of the mighty Frahbo it seems unwieldy at long range. Probably a good trade off. The fact you can effectively peek shoot with it is really nice.
This was my favorite gun. Used it for years, it was the first exotic I ever got during the red war. And after being butt buddies with this thing for 8 years these changes have made me put it down. It's sad but as someone who truly simps for this gun, it's like seeing someone you love being a completely different person. And not only that but their copying another person who you don't even like (revision zero)
it has 38m with the catalyst. it is a long range pulse rifle that that somehow duel in handcannon territory too. That's what also makes it scary.
It's literally the same damage per burst and ttk as Revision Zero's 2-burst mode. I have no idea why people are freaking out about Graviton when Re:Zero has been sitting here this whole time with a better stat package and exotic perk.
Yeah I was confused why frabo was so surprised because graviton has been good for seasons. And like you said rev zero is the same thing essentially. Funny too because with new chromatic fire you can make rev zero seem like grav lance
graviton has 20 more aim assistance, and the exotic perk triggers on kill...its pretty strong
Why? Did you not see the start of the video? ReZero can't do what Grav do, simple
graviton is a million times better than re zero.
Exactly
I've been waiting for this day ever since I went for it's catalyst during the faction wars
Trials this weekend is going to be interesting to say the least 😂
Dw trials is not coming this week
@@ahmedimranimran5100 aged like milk
I use this with Gyrfalcons, Riptide as Kinetic, and Crowd Pleaser as a heavy and it absolutely decimates everything
After maining this gun for the past three seasons, I’m happy it’s finally good in pvp
Running into an entire team cheesing with this gun in momentum control is straight aids
Finally, I literally expected this buff 3 years ago
This was my first ever exotic I got on destiny 2 after leaving the game for a while (I was an OG Destiny 1 player) I’m glad it got buffed it needed a buff.
You should try transfiguration or chattering bone from last wish with kill clip / rampage, it's kinda nuts lol.
I was a sunbreaker since tTK came out, but this weapon made me reconsider playing as void titan
Dads everywhere REJOICE!!! Gravitation Lance is BACK BABY!!!!
TBH i miss when it used to be a 3-shot pulse. It was my fave exotic for PvP/PvE. when they nerfed it to a 2-shot, it completely broke my heart because there wasn't anything wrong with it in the first place 😢😢😢😢
I started during beyond light did graviton lance ever have 3 burst before that?
@@deathbringer1582 it used to have a 3-shot burst when it first dropped. The first two bullets would be low damage and the third would be high damage, plus the sound fx were really nice (wasn't as high pitched as it is now).
You’re so wrong lmaooo, no one used this gun in y1 because of the 3 shot burst. It got a buff to be a 2 shot so you can hit the high damage shot more consistently. Then it became meta in PvP, you have no idea wtf you are talking about
@bloovy3025 there was a skill gap when it was a three burst an it had a ttk of I think .8 when it was three burst so actually better than it is now.
Same ttk but better falloff than rev zero. It’s been a beast weapon in both pve and pvp for seasons lol.
Graviton Lance is giving them Black Ops 1 G11 vibes.
My first exotic I picked after The Red War campaign... Good choice lol?
What’s the proper build to use with this demon
Anyone remember when this thing 1 bursted and everyone used it?
I have barely used this weapon before so even to this day I have absolutely no idea how this weapon works. Do kills have splash damage like chain reaction? Do the void orbs have tracking or do they just bounce to random directions? Do the orbs have splash damage? If those get a kill, do they spawn more?
Kills don't have splash damage but they do spawn a cluster of void orbs, those orbs will track to an enemy if close enough and can do considerable damage and no they don't spawn more if the orbs kill a target, it has to be a kill with the weapon. Great exotic though.
@@chillasduck96 Thanks!
@@pch1370 I lied sorry! People killed by the orbs do spawn more orbs!
Love how this is always my favorite exotic!
Glad it's actually competitive again. Was always fun to bust out every now and then but it feels good for it to be viable in comp and whatnot.
ur fucked in the head my boy
sorry
Glad you tried it out , a great all round gun that can do pve and pvp ( I even used to love the old graviton in pvp so now I am just 😍 )
I was using it all last night. I had a lobby leave. With Gryfalcons its pretty nuts bc shooting out of invisibily guarantees a kill
What special do you run?
What special do you run?
@OTFmax oh yeah I’m running imperial, sorry I meant what void special do you use?
@OTFmax mobeus quiver? Spectral blades?
@@reel8453 so you meant to say super…not special
Looks like season 3 is back on the menu boys.
I used this earlier in the playlist and immediately noticed the buff. So i went to crucible and deym... it's so much better now!
Hey frost... it also has vorpal so you can 3 / 4 shot a roaming super from range.
Bro I swear the crucible is full of them now, the grav users are everywhere lol the new seasons hand cannon has been pretty cool for me. Got the cool taken glow effect and its pretty solid if I can get those crits
Sounds like the dubstep gun is back.
I didn’t know Randy’s throwing knife was back
I been 2 tappin since the buff actually lmao .. it was a sleeper til now .. Thanks frost lol have a good memorial day
9:04 Left 4 Dead Smoker
What armor set is that?
Trials is definitely chopped cheese now. That rpm buff is a game changer.
I find it funny that Grav was one of the best back in year 1 and here we are yet again.
I’d pay over 200 dollars for bungie to never nerf graviton Lance. Use to barely use it after the catalyst was done the. Threw it in the vault but yesterday holy shit it feels like a rapid fire frame but hitting like an aggressive frame. Never expected to get 30 plus with graviton Lance I use to struggle with it. Not anymore it melts and I love it
Frost have you been watching Dr. STONE? You became "Why-Man" all of the sudden lmao.
Thing is absolutely savage now. Meta af.
The catalyst with extra range and aim assist is crispy
Just started using this gun, it’s pretty cracked, especially in 6s
It’s counter must be or another graviton la ce or revision zero since both have the same rpm
If Graviton Lance gets a nerf in PVP, I can see the nerf being to the AOE aspect of it. Other than that, I feel it is fine really.
I wish. But theses youtubers out here making it sound like it's absolutely bonkers when it's just decent now. While before it was trash
the first kill made me drop my jaw just like frostbolt LMAO
u built like leclear lil bro
a gyrfalcon sylish executioner build with this will probably be pretty nice
You should see it clear a room full of taken😮 with one burst 😮
It’s 300 rounds per minute but has a two round burst. So rly if all that damage was in a single bullet then it’s a 150 rpm scout. That’s why it shreds now
this sound after a shot is so sexy
not to diminish the OP factor of graviton but I believe the quad was a shatter to help .... still nuts
maaan, you're so lucky I literally can't eat without some kind of stimulation
And now all the Crutchers will try and say “I bEeN uSIng G-lAnCe”
frost get a randys with cascade point and rapid hit shoots like a 450 auto but scout hilarious when u shred someone
I knew graviton lance is back🔥🤘 lets gooooooooo!
My favorite gun since season finally got some love I'll actually cry if they change it again
I can't believe you still get excited playing this game.. * i play D2 daily still have almost 10 years 👀
Thank you Bungie for blessing us with this meta🙏🙏
lol this is taking me back some years to when there was a lot of complaining about Graviton Lance, then it got nerfed into being a meme and now its back.
Ok now they need to update symmetry with reload speed buff and a little range to go against this thing instead of inevitably neutering it.
This cat basically just cloudstruck them with the lance
What's the TTK ?
.80
To me, I would say what if the Graviton Lance had a catalyst of Desperado.
This is the example:
I dead ass just seen frost in the tower 😂😂
Intro Song?
even if you can't hit the second shot now with the first doing that much you leave cleanup real simple
It’s even MORE like a scout now
This thing has always been my baby, big G11 fan all the way in Black Ops and instantly fell in love when D2 launched Forsaken and i got my hands on Graviton. Now that its even better, probably never going to leave my inventory
Graviton is now if cloud strike and revision zero had a bebe. Lol
Just wait. Wait for the buffed Battle Harmony with Void and child of the old gods. This is going to be SO fun and SO annoying.
The fact that it takes a shorter time to shotgun someone and pop a ward of dawn than for a warlock to drop a rift, is just sad.😢😢😅
I mean ward of dawn is a super and a shotgun only needs one shot to kill, so it kinda makes sense they are faster
Guess I gotta pick up the lance now.
this rework has kinda made it a bit too strong, the backload was done for a reason, you could play for the body to head pulse like you where using headseeker, and it was already strong, but with the change to first shot buff, it became a scout, had they just changed the first shot buff, it would have been a good change that makes it more competitive however by making it shoot even faster, its become a straight up nightmare right out of year 1, its gonna dominate the meta especially once people start putting together strong void builds
No it's just fine dude, it can complete now with the likes of messenger and no time to explain
It's basically just an energy Revision Zero and Revision Zero isn't overpowered by any means.
@@manmeetsdestiny6921 what made messenger strong is desperado, somthing that can be rolled on other aggressive frames, like the duality pulse, no time has great recoil for am aggressive frame and the perk can help clean up if you gain momentum, however, neither of these get any boost from your build outside of the basic, handling/targeting armor mods, but with the graviton you get a free axion grenade, with catalyst it gets vorpal, and on shield break you get overshield, and on top of that, a cohesive void build and you have a monster of a weapon, mark my words it will be meta especially with capture point trials
@@samsterling3332relax bro don't drink the RUclipsr Kool aid. Graviton now has a .87 ttk, the cosmology while good is literally the equivalent to sunshots explosion an will only punish campy players. Essentially Graviton is now competitive cause it went from being an ass sandwich of a 1.00 ttk to .87. If you think that's crazy wait until you use an aggressive frame or high impact frame pulse heck use a rapid fire frame pulse than come back.
@@samsterling3332turn about only applies if they have a super than you get an overshield after you kill them.
It is finally time boyyyyss!!!
Since efffing year one.... It's the best gun out there period!! 😎
I really like this thing it feels so good to use
I love this gun now, but to me it feels way too strong lol. Well I'll enjoy it until it gets nerfed eventually
trials this weekend... is gonna be volatile
Better than immortal meta.
@@IlPinguonauta facts
@@IlPinguonauta we’re still in one now. The gun is still strong and it’s that stupid perk target lock that makes it busted.
@ArticOnePlus25 Yeah idk, me personally I have more trouble with strong guns with lots a range vs something like immortal. I didn't really have much issue with immortal since it was close to medium range, Graviton is just nuts and juiced so it will be great at the ranges immortal wasnt. It would also pair great with sidearm or shotgun for closer ranges. When I was using immortal I felt like I had to snipe in 3s for range coverage personally and overall I think Graviton and any other closer range option is easier overall to use. Not to mention because of the fast 2 burst you can corner peak pretty easily, and if you happen to get lucky can get multi kills off the exotic perk. And thats not even touching the catalyst which makes it great vs supers
Did he get a Randy's throwing knife to drop?? 😂
Graviton with new stasis damage boost?
Everyone respecting the pulse rifle now 😎 But I've been using this shit for years
It’s been awful for years with a 1 second ttk and way too much damage being on the second bullet which is less likely to hit than the second
Has to be cap this thing has been dogshit for yrs
This was my gun back in the day
LOVE YOU FRABO
been loving it in pve personally
What...? It used to shoot like a scout. Now it actually shoots like a pulse and that's bad?
@KeRaLiS TyrUS you know I do! And I'll be maining Graviton with all the other dads.
i dont get how people would hit the first shot yet miss the second. I personally hate this "buff" because its actually doing less damage in PvE where grav lance is supposed to shine. now its a PvP weapon and that pisses me off.
I main graviton lance and this is my face after the buff 🌞
Is this the first 2-time meta weapon ever?
I put it on and instantly got a 35 piece the next game 😄
Gonna Hold off playing crucible till they tune this and the new hand cannon exploit.
Has the same ttk as a 150 hand cannon
Season 3 vets are having *ptsd*
If you know, you *know*
It's a Primary Cloudstrike!
GRAVITOOOOOON! How is this okay, giving the old gal a 0.8 sec TTK at 40+ meters?
I fucking love weapons like this and cloudstrike with aoe damage get rid of people holding hands real fast learn to hold your own 😉
Glad I can add to my already high 80k kill count in PvE
I feel like Bungie is trying to kill PvP at this point. We've already been trotting through a pulse meta for a while now, and Bungie's response is to make yet another pulse a uncomeatable three-tap nuisance. If this is the route Bungie wants to take, they might as well un-nerf 120 Handcannons and 600rpm Autos and high range SMGS back to their strength of their meta eras, and introduce some actual fucking competition. I should call her.
Yet they couldn’t let the glaive explosion from the hunter exotic one hit…
Oh folks are gonna get slapped in trials with this this weekend...... By me