I don’t believe that at all. But I think that most people will spam a move if it works for them. It’s up to you to invalidate them so they’re forced to try new things. What I’ve experienced is that most players don’t care to adapt so they just end up panicking and making even more mistakes. They lose and say the game sucks.
I agree with you but for completely different reasons. As a primarily 2s player, so much of the game has been nerfed in an attempt to appeal to 1's players. Now, does that mean I wish PFG did nothing to cater to the 1s community? Actually, yes, I do. Not so you or other 1s players wouldn't have fun, but the 2s format was the initial pitch to separate itself from being compared to Smash. That first EVO tournament with Nakat and Void was hype as hell. We had a ton of swappable perks to counterplay different team comps, and most importantly, the initial cast was made with Duos in mind. I loved the slowed-down gameplay because it let me better track 4 different players at once and get better reads! I heard you say, "Wonder Woman is a no-skill character." In 1s, maybe, as all she can do is lasso, armor herself, and go for s-airs, but in 2s, she's a difficult character to use. Properly spacing to save your teammate with lasso, getting underneath them to give them an "airwalker" with her up special to reset their resources and fuel ladders, timing her armor to save allies, or choosing it to push for a stock, etc. A character like WW was built for 2s, and she's constantly gutted, so 1s players can have a better time fighting her when her kit was never designed to work with the format. In my opinion, PFG made the biggest mistake they could have. They tried to appeal to everyone, and now Multiversus appeals to no one. 1s players are constantly complaining about Morty, Arya, or Jack and how the game is too slow and passive, but the passivity was born in an appeal to 1s players. Heavy whiffs to make it feel more like a traditional fighter but again everyone's jab combos are designed around the fact a teammate could save you so now no one is happy except the pay piggies who just want more skins to buy. I agree, dude. MVS is cooked, and I'm genuinely depressed about it. I hope when the servers eventually go down, that NASB 2 gets a resergance. I really REALLY don't want to return to the Smash community.
i loveee multiversus and still enjoy playing it but i agree with you here. as a strict 2s player, i wish they would just focus on that aspect since i believe its what makes this game special and stand out from other platform fighters.
His complains are all over the place, and i dont like comparing to smash, but I think in this case we can see that its not rly a gameplay problem as much as it is how he feels about the gameplay. These are some of my thoughts at least: 1. Hits in multiversus dont feel right. Sound design is all over the place and moves that look weak will make you explode. The fun from these kinda games for me comes from figuring out what to do, and mvs makes that 10x harder than it should be 2. Making moves punishable doesnt seem to be a priority, it feels more like waiting for a mistake as opposed to baiting out a mistake. 3. ALL COOLDOWN MOVES SHOULD BE REWORKED nobody wants to look at a menu bar or count to 20 to use their favorite moves, or at least make an option where i can always pick the waiting move instead of forcing the big move out and starting a cooldown all over Bonus Rapid fire round 4. Drifting thru ppl midair is dumb and makes edge-guarding frustrating 5. The invincibility frames should end BEFORE the directional dodge is over, or how do i put this, i will do a move off to the right of my opponent cause ik they will dodge, and then they dodge into me and still have invin frames and it says “dodged” when they just airdodged INTO my move, very triggering. 6. Very vague summary/sidenote: every move should be designed with counterplay in mind, not just run away until they mess it up or pray it doesnt work, thats not satisfying long term for anyone
2v2 with a friend is good 1v1 is alright in small sessions But playing solo Queu i never last more than 30 min's Beta was more fun IMO. Still holding out for the game to improve over time, but i fear a shutdown again
@@caiuzdanigga3335 nah, I get what you’re saying but it won’t shut down again. They have so much stuff and such a refined template. They would rather just continue working on it and seeing in game live feedback
Ur just complaining about a skill issue I think. All the characters even jack is easy to read. And as for the paywall. It’s FTP, they can’t continue making content on free. They need some type of monetizing. And while it was predatory to begin with. It is moving in the right direction. Time heals all, and they are listening and moving in the right direction.
Like warzone now a day’s just basing it off monetization, why wouldn’t they release op characters to insensitive spending money to get them? We know what they want and it’s not to make us happy but to make money
Game indeed boring , I only like playing Wonder Woman since beta but even that’s boring when I hit somebody and know I didn’t hit😂 granted she don’t always kill and projectiles ruin her but still this game makes me get on brawlhalla 80% the time
All the people in hear saying get good need to stop sniffing the highlighters. MVS has problems, some of which remain since the beta. Getting good does nothing against poorly implemented hitboxes, hurtboxes, game mechanics and janky character balance.
It’s ranked been t-bagging since beta can’t back down plus this was not the video idea just didn’t know what to make a video about if you go to multiversus twitter and go to the comments everyone hates the game
This whole thing seems like a skill issue. MVS season 2 was a step in the right direction and that's the energy we need not people complain about every character being broken out the gate. I get mad some times from jokers cancel window.
i wanted reindog to be my yoshi replacement in the series but holy crap reindogs damage take and damage output is a joke, he can jab jab jab for 20 seconds with barely any damage to opponents and they hit him like 4 times and hes KOd. its rough being a reindog main and if you dont believe it try it in afew 2v2s its not easy its basically almost impossible. so yeah its based more off of meta than having fun with who ever.
Suprised he isn’t broken due do him being an Oc but I mean if this game didn’t have the license to all the characters and made a game full of original characters it would have been in the ground
@@swissslaps i think his spit animation should be quicker to counter rushers and he needs a down attack like a butt bounce or something and massively nerf how much damage he takes and buff his damage offense a bit and he’s good to know in my opinon. he has a decent move set but is too weak for some reason.
@@Janbomb123 still stale grind based game ranked suck consisting of just playing no reward for win streak and a very small penalty for losing not to mention the season started and ranked was supposed to be best of 3s but the brain dead devs can never give what they promise
@@swissslaps well ig personally I don’t care for a win streak and every game has problems. The best of 3 is probably going to be patched within the week.
@@chadloyal3040 that’s a very valid point actually but you’ll always be at a disadvantage, while the win may be more satisfying next match could be completely awful facing the meta characters
Season 2 is lit !!! The new players are getting better - Samurai Jack definitely does have the best edge guard but also the worst off stage recovery
Multiversus is not a 1v1 game it focus on 2v2 that’s where the fun is
@@altheneryttv5825 not everyone wants to play 2s tho most people play 1’s thanks for the comment and boosting the vid a lil bit have a good day bro
@@swissslaps thanks for boosting the video bro🤓🤓
It used to be that is with how slow sloppy and jank the game feels not to mention all the missing perks it’s definitely 1v1 focused now
That's were the fun is? Is really though?
All u have to do it is spam to win
@@projectmayhem4376 I feel as tho only bad players do it
I don’t believe that at all. But I think that most people will spam a move if it works for them. It’s up to you to invalidate them so they’re forced to try new things. What I’ve experienced is that most players don’t care to adapt so they just end up panicking and making even more mistakes. They lose and say the game sucks.
@@MallyMall4488 no no no that’s just a bad player and all they know how to do is spam which is crazy 💀😭
Good job on the video bro
@@coolboybreezy1 thank u bro
@@swissslapsyeah man no problem
The drip feeding content tactic is killing this game
Honestly the main thing that annoys me is the running. Everything else doesn’t really seam that bad.
Samurai jack shouldn’t be allowed in ranked format until properly tested. He is a broken character
I mean it’s marketing every new character comes out a little broken just so people will spend money on them
I understand bro. But for ranked you shoulda kept the same characters
@@michaelbattlejr836 yeah there should be character rank and actually rank as well
Jack is a joke to play against
I agree with you but for completely different reasons. As a primarily 2s player, so much of the game has been nerfed in an attempt to appeal to 1's players. Now, does that mean I wish PFG did nothing to cater to the 1s community? Actually, yes, I do. Not so you or other 1s players wouldn't have fun, but the 2s format was the initial pitch to separate itself from being compared to Smash.
That first EVO tournament with Nakat and Void was hype as hell. We had a ton of swappable perks to counterplay different team comps, and most importantly, the initial cast was made with Duos in mind. I loved the slowed-down gameplay because it let me better track 4 different players at once and get better reads!
I heard you say, "Wonder Woman is a no-skill character." In 1s, maybe, as all she can do is lasso, armor herself, and go for s-airs, but in 2s, she's a difficult character to use. Properly spacing to save your teammate with lasso, getting underneath them to give them an "airwalker" with her up special to reset their resources and fuel ladders, timing her armor to save allies, or choosing it to push for a stock, etc.
A character like WW was built for 2s, and she's constantly gutted, so 1s players can have a better time fighting her when her kit was never designed to work with the format.
In my opinion, PFG made the biggest mistake they could have. They tried to appeal to everyone, and now Multiversus appeals to no one. 1s players are constantly complaining about Morty, Arya, or Jack and how the game is too slow and passive, but the passivity was born in an appeal to 1s players. Heavy whiffs to make it feel more like a traditional fighter but again everyone's jab combos are designed around the fact a teammate could save you so now no one is happy except the pay piggies who just want more skins to buy.
I agree, dude. MVS is cooked, and I'm genuinely depressed about it. I hope when the servers eventually go down, that NASB 2 gets a resergance. I really REALLY don't want to return to the Smash community.
i loveee multiversus and still enjoy playing it but i agree with you here. as a strict 2s player, i wish they would just focus on that aspect since i believe its what makes this game special and stand out from other platform fighters.
2s is too chaotic though
His complains are all over the place, and i dont like comparing to smash, but I think in this case we can see that its not rly a gameplay problem as much as it is how he feels about the gameplay. These are some of my thoughts at least:
1. Hits in multiversus dont feel right. Sound design is all over the place and moves that look weak will make you explode. The fun from these kinda games for me comes from figuring out what to do, and mvs makes that 10x harder than it should be
2. Making moves punishable doesnt seem to be a priority, it feels more like waiting for a mistake as opposed to baiting out a mistake.
3. ALL COOLDOWN MOVES SHOULD BE REWORKED nobody wants to look at a menu bar or count to 20 to use their favorite moves, or at least make an option where i can always pick the waiting move instead of forcing the big move out and starting a cooldown all over
Bonus Rapid fire round
4. Drifting thru ppl midair is dumb and makes edge-guarding frustrating
5. The invincibility frames should end BEFORE the directional dodge is over, or how do i put this, i will do a move off to the right of my opponent cause ik they will dodge, and then they dodge into me and still have invin frames and it says “dodged” when they just airdodged INTO my move, very triggering.
6. Very vague summary/sidenote: every move should be designed with counterplay in mind, not just run away until they mess it up or pray it doesnt work, thats not satisfying long term for anyone
@@michaelmyers3507 valid but one thing I would critique is there’s still no attack decay either
the multiversus fall off needs to be studied
2v2 with a friend is good
1v1 is alright in small sessions
But playing solo Queu i never last more than 30 min's
Beta was more fun IMO.
Still holding out for the game to improve over time,
but i fear a shutdown again
@@caiuzdanigga3335 nah, I get what you’re saying but it won’t shut down again. They have so much stuff and such a refined template. They would rather just continue working on it and seeing in game live feedback
This is were i and alot of other ppl drop it
Ur just complaining about a skill issue I think. All the characters even jack is easy to read. And as for the paywall. It’s FTP, they can’t continue making content on free. They need some type of monetizing. And while it was predatory to begin with. It is moving in the right direction. Time heals all, and they are listening and moving in the right direction.
And your just a meat rider.
Stop being a fanboy 😂
@@paisano6830 he’s not a fanboy, he’s being realistic, it’s a small studio putting in work
Like warzone now a day’s just basing it off monetization, why wouldn’t they release op characters to insensitive spending money to get them? We know what they want and it’s not to make us happy but to make money
They’re constantly working on the game and unlike other developers like 2k they actually listen
the new samurai rift is WACK!
GET A FRIEND TO DO EM ALL AND GET THE NEWEST MOST EXPENSIVE CHARACTER to complete!
I didn't need a friend to do em all
@@C____F____M i bet u needed smith!!
@@clackman622 i had smith
@@C____F____M THEN UR COMMENT IS IRRELEVANT!!
What's wrong with the Samurai Rift?
Jack is very OP
Have you beaten a Jack player?
@@tdraguuno1758 once, and had to sweat my balls off
@@machinamott9959 I think Jack is good but not OP.
Game indeed boring , I only like playing Wonder Woman since beta but even that’s boring when I hit somebody and know I didn’t hit😂 granted she don’t always kill and projectiles ruin her but still this game makes me get on brawlhalla 80% the time
Bros saying finn is no skill while playing Samurai Jack and Joker😂
@@DanXio overage Finn player silence you guys are so bland with one combo 😂🫵
i play finn and i agree hes broken he has 1 combo that launches you to the roof
Should of kept it off the store
All the people in hear saying get good need to stop sniffing the highlighters. MVS has problems, some of which remain since the beta. Getting good does nothing against poorly implemented hitboxes, hurtboxes, game mechanics and janky character balance.
I dunno about that Garnet gameplay. Seems to me like they just made a comeback against someone who totally deserved it for spamming the crying emoji.
the garnet comeback was kinda hype ngl
bro how the garnet just got a free kill
It’s ranked been t-bagging since beta can’t back down plus this was not the video idea just didn’t know what to make a video about if you go to multiversus twitter and go to the comments everyone hates the game
really makes his argument fall flat doesn't it?
Deleted during season 1
I saw a reingdog in rank and let me tell you there is a reason why you don't see them. They can't kill
less than a Day... dang
Cooked bruh
@@degeneratecollector9950 I appreciate that have a good day bro
This whole thing seems like a skill issue. MVS season 2 was a step in the right direction and that's the energy we need not people complain about every character being broken out the gate. I get mad some times from jokers cancel window.
He’s complaining about a definite skill issue. I agree with everything ur saying
Bro acts like jokers the only character I play joker,jack,rick,gizmo, smith,Adam
nah mvs is fine
Dumpster fire maybe
@@swissslaps that garnet star cheese triggered u eh?
i wanted reindog to be my yoshi replacement in the series but holy crap reindogs damage take and damage output is a joke, he can jab jab jab for 20 seconds with barely any damage to opponents and they hit him like 4 times and hes KOd. its rough being a reindog main and if you dont believe it try it in afew 2v2s its not easy its basically almost impossible. so yeah its based more off of meta than having fun with who ever.
Suprised he isn’t broken due do him being an Oc but I mean if this game didn’t have the license to all the characters and made a game full of original characters it would have been in the ground
@@swissslaps i think his spit animation should be quicker to counter rushers and he needs a down attack like a butt bounce or something and massively nerf how much damage he takes and buff his damage offense a bit and he’s good to know in my opinon. he has a decent move set but is too weak for some reason.
womp womp
What a dumb opinion te amo
Bro is complaining about losing to one of the worst characters in the game
@@Janbomb123 still stale grind based game ranked suck consisting of just playing no reward for win streak and a very small penalty for losing not to mention the season started and ranked was supposed to be best of 3s but the brain dead devs can never give what they promise
@@swissslaps well ig personally I don’t care for a win streak and every game has problems. The best of 3 is probably going to be patched within the week.
why would you still be playing this?
Skill issue bruh
bro got 500+ hours and still hasnt got good
Still better than you lil bro
youre just bad at the game cuh
There is a point to not playing meta characters... Get good
@@chadloyal3040 in every tournament you’ll ever play it will always be s tier characters
@@swissslaps lol it's a fun game. Who cares about competing in tournaments. All games have overpowered options. It's up to you to use them
@@chadloyal3040 that’s a very valid point actually but you’ll always be at a disadvantage, while the win may be more satisfying next match could be completely awful facing the meta characters
When was the last time you've seen a Reindog?
i hate playing against morty that mud wall to up air plus grenades is all they spam and its hard to beat 😂