Fully support this approach ! Consumer pressure is needed urgently in the present climate in ALL sectors of the economy ! The strongest power of the buyer lies in refusing to purchase...
So i paused your video around 9.35 and went and watched this other video all the way through. Once i watched the video i scrolled down and all his top comments are negative one's about the rifle he just reviewed. Fair play to you for as they say...Speaking up/out. Another good watch, cheers 👍👍
Hi Vin, I watched the review on the channel in question yesterday, you’re bang on, that channel riggers me in a big way with its reviews. Keep up the good work fella. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hi Vin. Watched it yesterday myself and i totally agree with you. If was a capable gun he would have put one of his vector optics on it and got a grouping which he probably tried before filming so he could just blame the fish bowl scope. Piece of crap, the gun. That’s why he can afford big houses with paddocks and a Spanish Villa. I only watch the channel for the content, as for the person ( not so much ) I hope you’ve had a wonderful Christmas and have a beautiful new year good sir. At least we still have some honest people left out there such as yourself who’ll say it as it is.
Hi Vin, Never bought a cheap crap rifle. When i started my business over fifty years ago a rep came in with a Nikon camera. I was taken aback by this and asked how he could afford it. He said whatever you buy in life always buy the best you can possibly afford. Done so ever since and never been disappointed. He was a spitfire pilot in the war so not an idiot.
Agre asvel a used weihrauch walther or air arms are far better than a new hatsan lately I have bought two used walther lgu's not in perfect condition but after a little fixing their look and perform top notch 👌
Thanks Vin your the second youtuber who I've thanked in as many days for an honest review there's to many of these so called reviews who seem biased towards the product that's being reviewed thanks again mate
Well said sir. Don't know about throwing in a tractor, a skip more like. He never has anything bad to say about anything he reviews so what's the point. The purpose of a review is to point out pros and cons surely.
Hi Vin, yes mate, I watched that one and the only mitigating bit I saw was the "Scope" (and I use the term loosely) was a B.O.S. He should have said from the outset - Drop the scope in the bin and just use it for fun with the open sights for Tin Can stuff.
I don't have to mention how much i agree with you Vince! Just the name T-Rex tells me enough 😆On your advice i had a quick look at that review. I unsubscribed that chap's channel already years ago because it's better for my blood pressure...... Nice shotgun pattern on those splatter burst targets👌
@@rapalaron6348 I think the thing that annoyed me the most was the suggestion it could be used for shooting live quarry. Highly immoral and irresponsible.... he should've known better 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I completely agree Vin. I was triggered early on in his video and I'm quite honestly fed up with people not telling the truth on reviews and to what end. A load of fed up people that were daft enough to purchase this total heap of plop! This is purely a commercial advert NOT a review!!! Years ago I used to read the magazines but you would not read a bad review so I stopped buying them. Keep up the honest appraisal Vin.
As a relative newcomer to the sport I am amazed at the state of the market for non-PCP rifles. I am shocked at the gulf between quality products at one end of the spectrum and cheap (though not in price!) trash at the other. Vinny - rather than reviewing trash, because there is so much of it, why not try to find options which fall in the middle of both extremes? Only discovered the channel this week - subbed 👍
@@ratherbegliding thanks for the comment buddy. Unfortunately there very few rifles that fall in the mid range price bracket that I could recommend. I think maybe going forward perhaps a better alternative would be to have a fixed budget of say £200 and find good quality second hand guns to review. There are lots of good quality rifles out there that don't cost a fortune if people are prepared to look for them. I have seen FWBs, Diana's, Weihrauchs, and so forth going second hand for under that price, also good British guns from the 80s such as Webley Vulcans, Omegas Eclipses, and BSA Superstars, Mercury Challengers. Just because of age of these rifle they can more than hold their own alongside modern rifles. I have a '83 vintage FWB Sport and a BSA Mercury S that Ive shot fairly often in my videos and these rifle are just as accurate as my modern rifles and I dare say will outlast me. 👍👍👍👍
Unfortunately Vin, the new word is about scamming and bullshit. They don’t care about people or the ethics of this sport. Shit houses that take the money, shame on them.
Watched the same fella now i do like him but. While waiting for my falcon fn19 to be repaired during lock down i bought an xs38 from a well none seller on the net from this country it turn'd up and got sent back it was bloody dangerous they would not give me my money back so i exchanged it for a remington express now i like the weight the look and the feel of the rifle. But it was like shooting a shotgun grouping past 15 meters was terrible i have striped it down played with the trigger the lock time and trigger are now smooth as. Its still as accurate as a blind man playing darts. The reason i mention this is because they were bought of the back off well none youtuber reviews
Im afraid andys videos are just a glorified sales pitch for his business nowadays, i cant fault the bloke for wanting to make money ....... but not at the expense of some youngone who has saved up their money to get into airguning and ended up with a crock of shxtx, keep up the no nonsense reviews vin , your a breath of fresh air bud 👍🏻
There's a few that do it, promotes business, one or two even reckon their cheap rifles surprisingly shoot mega cheap pellets very accurate. Thats the best way to put new shooters off forever if they buy junk and lose intrest.
I have, family & Friends that have asked me for any rabbits, pigeons or even squirrels that I don’t need. Usually turn their nose up to game meat, not sure if they want it to eat or feed their pets. Interesting though 👍🏻
I saw the video in question Vin but my suggestion is you go loan a Scavenger and put a decent scope on it, then it can be tested. One of my springers is a Remington Express in 177 it is a great gun, now I know you are not having a go at Remington but this needs to be tested with a decent scope as the scope issue was suggested.
Hi viny i saw the review yesterday morning and told him in the comments how crap to put it mildly the rifle and scope combination was. I told him he had more chance of chasing a rabbit and beating it to death with the but rather than hitting it with a pellet fired from that rifle . Definitely one of the worst recommendations for a starter rifle unless you want your young son to be put off shooting for life . Well done vinny for bringing this review from AAR so everyone can see what a totally crap review it was .
I just watched that video before I seen yours and was curious what you had to say. Myself I know Crosman makes Remington air rifles which in turn are made in China so I knew what to expect of this one. Not the best trigger for sure, but not quite as bad as the older ones. Completely junk 4 power scope on a budget springer that I expected to be about 100.00 US as I bought a Crosman Fire similar to this last April just to do a review on cheap box store break barrels. Most the time you can get groups at 25 yards close the size of a US quarter with the right pellets. I didn't have much luck getting that in my video with the Fire. I set it aside and haven't messed with it. Then I looked and the price on the T-Rex Scavenger would be about 220.00 US dollars which is crazy. I started to leave a comment that it was way over priced, but just moved on. There's Budget guns that will do better. I bought a Gamo Rocket Gray for just under 100.00 because I really liked the gray camo stock and wanted to see how it would do in that price range. I figured if nothing else from research the stock should fit my 18 year old Gamo Shadow 1000. I did a video on it a few weeks ago and it's really isn't bad for 100.00 gun. Good enough I could recommend it at that price, but no way at 220.00 dollars. I will say I don't know if the T-Rex would do better with the right pellet, but it was a mute point. There's much better choices for what the T-Rex cost even if it would hold a 1 inch group at 25-27 yards. I stopped watching the video after seeing the group because I felt he really didn't take time to find the right pellet or the gun was really horrible.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 hi Charles, my whole issue with the video in question was the fact it was suggested the combo could be used for shooting live quarry. I dare say with some tuning and a half decent scope, and finding some pellets that suited it better it may group a lot better though I have my doubts.
@@vincentenglish8489 Your right. That package isn't suited for humane hunting. I went back and watched the complete video. I only clicked it to begin with to see what Remington branded break barrels Crosman was producing for the UK. Remington branded air guns I've heard are popular over there. It didn't take me long to see this gun was just another 100.00 beginner gun with a toy scope and crap mounts not suited for a springer. That scope is super light and I think all plastic. A comment about buying a used HW99 was made and I was like, not for 100.00. I looked up the UK price and it would be 220.00 US dollars which is crazy! I can get almost the same Crosman branded gun for 100.00 at local box stores in the US. I honestly ignored the pesting part of his spiel about the gun. In theory that's what the gun would be good for if it had the accuracy. I think he found out later it wasn't. He was sent the gun for review and looked like he was struggling with the shooting part to make the gun look good for his sponsor. By the end of the video he no longer mentioned pesting nor did he say he wouldn't recommend it for pesting which he should have. He did change to it being a good can plinker and just to have fun with at least in the end. I guess I'm use to sponsored reviews and read between the lines on what they are saying and not saying. What he should have said is don't waste your money. At that price there's much better choices but being a sponsored video he choose to recommend it for plinking at that price which was bad advice for sure. In the end it is a dishonest review.
Another example of the modern corporate mantra..maximum profit minimum effort..it's unfortunate but I feel it's something that's crept into into most manufacturers one way or another or at least it's rare not to find it 👍at least there's some like yourself who are willing to give us a review not a sales pitch
I had the same out look as you did on that video,going off the subject I still feel the same about any air gun add ons like scopes, for instance,,I'm also in the middle of a conversation about someone telling another person who was after a scope that his £36 scope he bought off Amazon would match any of the hawke £200 plus scopes and he told me I had no right to knock the scope because I hadn't tried one,which is true I haven't, I guess it was the bit about me saying my lens covers cost more than that or he would have more luck hitting the target if he chucked his gun at it,,,but I also reminded him he can have a top end rifle but without a decent scope that it's all it is, ( a top end rifle)but I guess this 19 year old kid knew more than my 45+ years of experience did,,, I'm also still laughing about another guy who agreed with the lad saying how he this scope on his 308 and it's the dogs bollox,,🤷♂️
@@clivewilson5258 thanks for the comment buddy. I think before long I need to do a video on scopes because there's lots of misconceptions about them. I'm currently testing a £70 scope paid for with my own money, and it says alot about my confidence in it that I always have my Hawke with me incase it fails (which I expect it to). Another issue is people make judgements because they've never used a really premium scope such as Schmit & Bender so are unable to make comparisons. I agree not all scopes are equal. 👍👍👍👍
I haven't watched one of his videos since the Epic One. At the end of the day he is giving you a sales pitch for the rifle, and as the saying goes, buyer beware. He doesn't seem to like shooting springers and changed his hold a few times throughout the video. May have been him, may have been the scope, may have been a bad pellet choice. If you base a buying decision off a RUclips video, then you have to be prepared to get burnt fingers on occasion. Far better to go down your local range and see what others are shooting and what you can borrow to try out if you can.
Agree with you Vin, I saw the review you are talking about. Shameful BS about a junk toy. He said good for a farmer to throw in the truck, I think he would throw in the bin more like. As for close range vermin control, well very irresponsible advice. Well done for calling the review out I thought the same when watching.
@@warrenbrooks-r2h I nearly choked on my tea and biccies when he said that, the bloody thing couldn't hold zero on a range let alone being bounced around in a farm vehicle. 😉👍👍👍👍
Whilst I do agree the scavenger is rubbish the express xp however gives out respectable groups and is a good budget rifle that’s been my experience anyway
I watched the same upload yesterday and zoomed in and took particular notice of the trigger action and the amount of jerky creep after the first stage. yes it's cheap but still a waste of money. I must admit though you have to read behind the lines on his channel and take notice of what he doesn't say as much as what he does and its the first time I have seen him put out a video where he couldn't.t group with a rifle .
Watched it, seen it totally agree with you. And was totally disappointed. If you're gonna do reviews, at least be honest. Which most people aren't and then say they don't earn anything out of it. I rarely make comments. But a pig's still a pig no matter what you dress it in. I bought a gun on somebody's reviewed. Couldn't get my money back. And was told to sell it on didn't have the heart to do that. So drove over it in my 4 / 4 didn't want to anybody else to be out of po didn't wanna anybody else to be out-of-pocket?
I have to say that I cant believe anyone could underwrite or suggest this is any form of a viable rifle, at any price point. A youngster starting off with something like that could be put off our sport for ever. its immoral in my opinion...
I said the exact same thing . Why promote T-rash when anyone can afford hw99s brand new or 2nd hand. What i didnt get was why AAR didnt put a cerrato scope on it that VA were selling for £80. Surely a scope thats half the price of the rifle is the norm?
Yep, watched it as soon as it came out, the rifle was garbage in every way, the rifle should not have been reviewed and promoted to any kind of audience, there are hundreds of very very poor guns out there on the market, if a channel was to review one, they should be describing the reasons not to buy them, at times he almost seemed like he was filming it under duress and new it was only to shift them out of VA😉....I feel your frustration.
Just watched it Vin. As you say its a load of crap. At his age my eyes were still ok with open sights, so he would have been better off chucking the scope away and using those. Of course that would have shown it for what it was, and left him without an excuse.👎
Yup just watched the review and I know who you are talking about as he always promotes what a certain company has on offer, sad really as I would never promote a product such as this one to any youngster, even if the scope is at fault, it should never have been paired up with the rifle, but lets face it, there are people who will sell you anything.😡
I watched this video this morning I’ve never seen Andy do such a dishonest video before, to even surgest the accuracy of this rifle is capable of shooting any live game is a disgrace. And to pass it off as ok for a new shooter to learn on will push people away from our sport not bring them to it. In addition he gave the BSA Lightning gas ram a very positive review and in my opinion having shot one the trigger was very poor and the rifle very jumpy making it very inaccurate Just sayin Vin
@@takeflite6799 yup the two things that really annoyed me where the suggestions of shooting live quarry and a starter rifle. I'm not surprised that he pushes BSAs, he seems awfully friendly with them. The sad thing is I adore BSA rifles from the 80's and even the very early 90s before they became too "Gamo". 👍👍👍👍👍
Why not review the gun with a reasonable scope that can be focused at least . If i was reviewing guns, I'd use the same scope every time it just makes sense.
@@Murrayefc1978 yup with you there buddy, I have a dedicated 4-12x44 SF Hawke Vantage that I put on all rifles I test. I know and trust this scope 100% and gives all the rifles a level playing field 👍👍👍👍
I saw the vid to I’m not sure how he kept a straight face it’s a shame as you say a respectful influencer talk such utter tosh the manufacturer of these products should be held accountable and they understand nothing but numbers so speak with your wallets
seen the vid - fell out with him over his 'green space' bet whoever sold him that land is laughing there backside off - wanting to open the land up for all to enjoy with crested newts on, classic middle class idiot - no one can go near them - it's illegal to disturb them - change the environment around them but he put the fault on power lines to make him look better - power lines pass over 1000s of miles of national parks here in the uk
Totally agree, stopped following him months ago,keep up the honest reviews 👍
Fully support this approach ! Consumer pressure is needed urgently in the present climate in ALL sectors of the economy ! The strongest power of the buyer lies in refusing to purchase...
Showing lush home garden, Spanish balcony, best proven salesmanship ?
Absolutely agree with you
Well said Vin!! In all the years i’ve watched the person in question, i’ve never seen him post a negative review!
So i paused your video around 9.35 and went and watched this other video all the way through. Once i watched the video i scrolled down and all his top comments are negative one's about the rifle he just reviewed. Fair play to you for as they say...Speaking up/out. Another good watch, cheers 👍👍
Hi Vin, I watched the review on the channel in question yesterday, you’re bang on, that channel riggers me in a big way with its reviews. Keep up the good work fella. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hi Vin. Watched it yesterday myself and i totally agree with you. If was a capable gun he would have put one of his vector optics on it and got a grouping which he probably tried before filming so he could just blame the fish bowl scope. Piece of crap, the gun. That’s why he can afford big houses with paddocks and a Spanish Villa. I only watch the channel for the content, as for the person ( not so much )
I hope you’ve had a wonderful Christmas and have a beautiful new year good sir. At least we still have some honest people left out there such as yourself who’ll say it as it is.
Hi Vin, Never bought a cheap crap rifle. When i started my business over fifty years ago a rep came in with a Nikon camera. I was taken aback by this and asked how he could afford it. He said whatever you buy in life always buy the best you can possibly afford. Done so ever since and never been disappointed. He was a spitfire pilot in the war so not an idiot.
@@majorscope I'm with you my friend, save like mad, buy once, cry once but be set up for life. 👍😁👍👍👍👍
Agre asvel a used weihrauch walther or air arms are far better than a new hatsan lately I have bought two used walther lgu's not in perfect condition but after a little fixing their look and perform top notch 👌
Hold on Vin, would be good for a tractor as if you can get close enough you could throw it at the target with greater accuracy! 😉
Thanks Vin your the second youtuber who I've thanked in as many days for an honest review there's to many of these so called reviews who seem biased towards the product that's being reviewed thanks again mate
Well said sir. Don't know about throwing in a tractor, a skip more like. He never has anything bad to say about anything he reviews so what's the point. The purpose of a review is to point out pros and cons surely.
Hi Vin, yes mate, I watched that one and the only mitigating bit I saw was the "Scope" (and I use the term loosely) was a B.O.S. He should have said from the outset - Drop the scope in the bin and just use it for fun with the open sights for Tin Can stuff.
I don't have to mention how much i agree with you Vince! Just the name T-Rex tells me enough 😆On your advice i had a quick look at that review. I unsubscribed that chap's channel already years ago because it's better for my blood pressure...... Nice shotgun pattern on those splatter burst targets👌
@@rapalaron6348 I think the thing that annoyed me the most was the suggestion it could be used for shooting live quarry. Highly immoral and irresponsible.... he should've known better 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I completely agree Vin. I was triggered early on in his video and I'm quite honestly fed up with people not telling the truth on reviews and to what end. A load of fed up people that were daft enough to purchase this total heap of plop! This is purely a commercial advert NOT a review!!! Years ago I used to read the magazines but you would not read a bad review so I stopped buying them. Keep up the honest appraisal Vin.
As a relative newcomer to the sport I am amazed at the state of the market for non-PCP rifles. I am shocked at the gulf between quality products at one end of the spectrum and cheap (though not in price!) trash at the other. Vinny - rather than reviewing trash, because there is so much of it, why not try to find options which fall in the middle of both extremes?
Only discovered the channel this week - subbed 👍
@@ratherbegliding thanks for the comment buddy. Unfortunately there very few rifles that fall in the mid range price bracket that I could recommend. I think maybe going forward perhaps a better alternative would be to have a fixed budget of say £200 and find good quality second hand guns to review. There are lots of good quality rifles out there that don't cost a fortune if people are prepared to look for them. I have seen FWBs, Diana's, Weihrauchs, and so forth going second hand for under that price, also good British guns from the 80s such as Webley Vulcans, Omegas Eclipses, and BSA Superstars, Mercury Challengers. Just because of age of these rifle they can more than hold their own alongside modern rifles. I have a '83 vintage FWB Sport and a BSA Mercury S that Ive shot fairly often in my videos and these rifle are just as accurate as my modern rifles and I dare say will outlast me. 👍👍👍👍
The video shows the difference between Andy and you Vin, you tell the truth and he lies to sell any old crap.
Unfortunately Vin, the new word is about scamming and bullshit. They don’t care about people or the ethics of this sport. Shit houses that take the money, shame on them.
Watched the same fella now i do like him but.
While waiting for my falcon fn19 to be repaired during lock down i bought an xs38 from a well none seller on the net from this country it turn'd up and got sent back it was bloody dangerous they would not give me my money back so i exchanged it for a remington express now i like the weight the look and the feel of the rifle. But it was like shooting a shotgun grouping past 15 meters was terrible i have striped it down played with the trigger the lock time and trigger are now smooth as. Its still as accurate as a blind man playing darts.
The reason i mention this is because they were bought of the back off well none youtuber reviews
Not AAR by any chance😂😂😂. Would trust your review over theirs any day Vin.
Well said Vin. I've put a suitable comment on the review video.
Im afraid andys videos are just a glorified sales pitch for his business nowadays, i cant fault the bloke for wanting to make money ....... but not at the expense of some youngone who has saved up their money to get into airguning and ended up with a crock of shxtx, keep up the no nonsense reviews vin , your a breath of fresh air bud 👍🏻
He does it for sales as his wife and daughter own Vector Airs and appears to be a BSA fanboy.
you are right just star with a good second hand
There's a few that do it, promotes business, one or two even reckon their cheap rifles surprisingly shoot mega cheap pellets very accurate.
Thats the best way to put new shooters off forever if they buy junk and lose intrest.
I have, family & Friends that have asked me for any rabbits, pigeons or even squirrels that I don’t need. Usually turn their nose up to game meat, not sure if they want it to eat or feed their pets. Interesting though 👍🏻
I saw the video in question Vin but my suggestion is you go loan a Scavenger and put a decent scope on it, then it can be tested. One of my springers is a Remington Express in 177 it is a great gun, now I know you are not having a go at Remington but this needs to be tested with a decent scope as the scope issue was suggested.
Yup fair one, I'm more than happy to do that.... 👍👍👍👍👍
Hi viny i saw the review yesterday morning and told him in the comments how crap to put it mildly the rifle and scope combination was. I told him he had more chance of chasing a rabbit and beating it to death with the but rather than hitting it with a pellet fired from that rifle . Definitely one of the worst recommendations for a starter rifle unless you want your young son to be put off shooting for life . Well done vinny for bringing this review from AAR so everyone can see what a totally crap review it was .
100% right mate
Yep, seen too many of these types of rough rifles disappoint keen new shooters.
👌👌 well said vin👍👍👍👍
I just watched that video before I seen yours and was curious what you had to say. Myself I know Crosman makes Remington air rifles which in turn are made in China so I knew what to expect of this one. Not the best trigger for sure, but not quite as bad as the older ones. Completely junk 4 power scope on a budget springer that I expected to be about 100.00 US as I bought a Crosman Fire similar to this last April just to do a review on cheap box store break barrels. Most the time you can get groups at 25 yards close the size of a US quarter with the right pellets. I didn't have much luck getting that in my video with the Fire. I set it aside and haven't messed with it. Then I looked and the price on the T-Rex Scavenger would be about 220.00 US dollars which is crazy. I started to leave a comment that it was way over priced, but just moved on. There's Budget guns that will do better. I bought a Gamo Rocket Gray for just under 100.00 because I really liked the gray camo stock and wanted to see how it would do in that price range. I figured if nothing else from research the stock should fit my 18 year old Gamo Shadow 1000. I did a video on it a few weeks ago and it's really isn't bad for 100.00 gun. Good enough I could recommend it at that price, but no way at 220.00 dollars. I will say I don't know if the T-Rex would do better with the right pellet, but it was a mute point. There's much better choices for what the T-Rex cost even if it would hold a 1 inch group at 25-27 yards. I stopped watching the video after seeing the group because I felt he really didn't take time to find the right pellet or the gun was really horrible.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 hi Charles, my whole issue with the video in question was the fact it was suggested the combo could be used for shooting live quarry. I dare say with some tuning and a half decent scope, and finding some pellets that suited it better it may group a lot better though I have my doubts.
@@vincentenglish8489 Your right. That package isn't suited for humane hunting. I went back and watched the complete video. I only clicked it to begin with to see what Remington branded break barrels Crosman was producing for the UK. Remington branded air guns I've heard are popular over there. It didn't take me long to see this gun was just another 100.00 beginner gun with a toy scope and crap mounts not suited for a springer. That scope is super light and I think all plastic. A comment about buying a used HW99 was made and I was like, not for 100.00. I looked up the UK price and it would be 220.00 US dollars which is crazy! I can get almost the same Crosman branded gun for 100.00 at local box stores in the US. I honestly ignored the pesting part of his spiel about the gun. In theory that's what the gun would be good for if it had the accuracy. I think he found out later it wasn't. He was sent the gun for review and looked like he was struggling with the shooting part to make the gun look good for his sponsor. By the end of the video he no longer mentioned pesting nor did he say he wouldn't recommend it for pesting which he should have. He did change to it being a good can plinker and just to have fun with at least in the end. I guess I'm use to sponsored reviews and read between the lines on what they are saying and not saying. What he should have said is don't waste your money. At that price there's much better choices but being a sponsored video he choose to recommend it for plinking at that price which was bad advice for sure. In the end it is a dishonest review.
Another example of the modern corporate mantra..maximum profit minimum effort..it's unfortunate but I feel it's something that's crept into into most manufacturers one way or another or at least it's rare not to find it 👍at least there's some like yourself who are willing to give us a review not a sales pitch
I had the same out look as you did on that video,going off the subject I still feel the same about any air gun add ons like scopes, for instance,,I'm also in the middle of a conversation about someone telling another person who was after a scope that his £36 scope he bought off Amazon would match any of the hawke £200 plus scopes and he told me I had no right to knock the scope because I hadn't tried one,which is true I haven't, I guess it was the bit about me saying my lens covers cost more than that or he would have more luck hitting the target if he chucked his gun at it,,,but I also reminded him he can have a top end rifle but without a decent scope that it's all it is, ( a top end rifle)but I guess this 19 year old kid knew more than my 45+ years of experience did,,, I'm also still laughing about another guy who agreed with the lad saying how he this scope on his 308 and it's the dogs bollox,,🤷♂️
@@clivewilson5258 thanks for the comment buddy. I think before long I need to do a video on scopes because there's lots of misconceptions about them. I'm currently testing a £70 scope paid for with my own money, and it says alot about my confidence in it that I always have my Hawke with me incase it fails (which I expect it to). Another issue is people make judgements because they've never used a really premium scope such as Schmit & Bender so are unable to make comparisons. I agree not all scopes are equal. 👍👍👍👍
I haven't watched one of his videos since the Epic One. At the end of the day he is giving you a sales pitch for the rifle, and as the saying goes, buyer beware. He doesn't seem to like shooting springers and changed his hold a few times throughout the video. May have been him, may have been the scope, may have been a bad pellet choice. If you base a buying decision off a RUclips video, then you have to be prepared to get burnt fingers on occasion. Far better to go down your local range and see what others are shooting and what you can borrow to try out if you can.
Agree with you Vin, I saw the review you are talking about. Shameful BS about a junk toy. He said good for a farmer to throw in the truck, I think he would throw in the bin more like. As for close range vermin control, well very irresponsible advice. Well done for calling the review out I thought the same when watching.
@@warrenbrooks-r2h I nearly choked on my tea and biccies when he said that, the bloody thing couldn't hold zero on a range let alone being bounced around in a farm vehicle. 😉👍👍👍👍
@@vincentenglish8489spot on 😂👍
Whilst I do agree the scavenger is rubbish the express xp however gives out respectable groups and is a good budget rifle that’s been my experience anyway
Trouble is all he cares about is his family’s business (vector air). There is no excuse for selling rifles not fit for purpose !
I watched the same upload yesterday and zoomed in and took particular notice of the trigger action and the amount of jerky creep after the first stage. yes it's cheap but still a waste of money. I must admit though you have to read behind the lines on his channel and take notice of what he doesn't say as much as what he does and its the first time I have seen him put out a video where he couldn't.t group with a rifle .
Watched it, seen it totally agree with you. And was totally disappointed. If you're gonna do reviews, at least be honest. Which most people aren't and then say they don't earn anything out of it. I rarely make comments. But a pig's still a pig no matter what you dress it in. I bought a gun on somebody's reviewed. Couldn't get my money back. And was told to sell it on didn't have the heart to do that. So drove over it in my 4 / 4 didn't want to anybody else to be out of po didn't wanna anybody else to be out-of-pocket?
I have to say that I cant believe anyone could underwrite or suggest this is any form of a viable rifle, at any price point.
A youngster starting off with something like that could be put off our sport for ever.
its immoral in my opinion...
You are spot on vin,the bloke is only pimping vector air out to people,his craic is shite he thinks he can do the jeremy clarkson thing cringe worthy
I said the exact same thing . Why promote T-rash when anyone can afford hw99s brand new or 2nd hand. What i didnt get was why AAR didnt put a cerrato scope on it that VA were selling for £80. Surely a scope thats half the price of the rifle is the norm?
And funnily enough nigh on every rifle he reviews groups under a 5p at 40m…. More sales for the family company!
Yep, watched it as soon as it came out, the rifle was garbage in every way, the rifle should not have been reviewed and promoted to any kind of audience, there are hundreds of very very poor guns out there on the market, if a channel was to review one, they should be describing the reasons not to buy them, at times he almost seemed like he was filming it under duress and new it was only to shift them out of VA😉....I feel your frustration.
Just watched it Vin. As you say its a load of crap. At his age my eyes were still ok with open sights, so he would have been better off chucking the scope away and using those. Of course that would have shown it for what it was, and left him without an excuse.👎
Just buy a hw 99 it's cheaper in the long run.. they make the really cheap stuff look expensive
Yup just watched the review and I know who you are talking about as he always promotes what a certain company has on offer, sad really as I would never promote a product such as this one to any youngster, even if the scope is at fault, it should never have been paired up with the rifle, but lets face it, there are people who will sell you anything.😡
I watched this video this morning I’ve never seen Andy do such a dishonest video before, to even surgest the accuracy of this rifle is capable of shooting any live game is a disgrace. And to pass it off as ok for a new shooter to learn on will push people away from our sport not bring them to it.
In addition he gave the BSA Lightning gas ram a very positive review and in my opinion having shot one the trigger was very poor and the rifle very jumpy making it very inaccurate
Just sayin Vin
@@takeflite6799 yup the two things that really annoyed me where the suggestions of shooting live quarry and a starter rifle. I'm not surprised that he pushes BSAs, he seems awfully friendly with them. The sad thing is I adore BSA rifles from the 80's and even the very early 90s before they became too "Gamo". 👍👍👍👍👍
Why not review the gun with a reasonable scope that can be focused at least . If i was reviewing guns, I'd use the same scope every time it just makes sense.
@@Murrayefc1978 yup with you there buddy, I have a dedicated 4-12x44 SF Hawke Vantage that I put on all rifles I test. I know and trust this scope 100% and gives all the rifles a level playing field 👍👍👍👍
@vincentenglish8489 just makes sense bud .
Andy is nothing but a bull shiter in his reviews and money mad.
I saw the vid to I’m not sure how he kept a straight face it’s a shame as you say a respectful influencer talk such utter tosh the manufacturer of these products should be held accountable and they understand nothing but numbers so speak with your wallets
seen the vid - fell out with him over his 'green space' bet whoever sold him that land is laughing there backside off - wanting to open the land up for all to enjoy with crested newts on, classic middle class idiot - no one can go near them - it's illegal to disturb them - change the environment around them but he put the fault on power lines to make him look better - power lines pass over 1000s of miles of national parks here in the uk
and they would not put power lines there anyway because it would disturb the newts - which it is illegal to do
@@lcc8394 meh ...Townies buddy ...😉👍👍👍👍👍