Last week we defined abstract art. Today, we are discussing 20 of the most influential figures of abstract art. I am aware we are missing numerous other highly influential artists, so feel free to continue the art historical journey and discussion here in the comments. What abstract artists do you believe are the most influential throughout art history? Chat soon!
Thank you for your response. I wrote many essays about abstract art, including the abstract expressionists as well as impressionists. I won’t take part in any discussions online regarding those subjects.
My favorite video on your channel yet. Being able to explain so many talented artist in a quick and efficient manner really captured the historical achievements and importance of the abstract era. Thank you again for such amazing work.
Your simple introductory and invitational views of these artists and their works encourage viewers to explore so much more. Thank you for this. I'm glad I subscribed.
I loved this 2nd part of CAI _ Abstracts _ Now I'm going to see the 1st part so I can understand the fantastic leap taken by Hilma Af Klint! What spark encouraged her!
Great video! I’d have included Sean Scully and also some sculptors (as the video is entitled ‘artists’ rather than ‘painters’!) e.g. Judd, Smith, Gabo, Hepworth, Serra etc. A visit to art school final exhibitions shows that abstraction is alive, well and constantly being reinvented (even if this is rarely reflected in public galleries), so a focus on upcoming abstract artists would be great.
Hi Chris, thank you for tuning in. I completely agree on Scully and the inclusion of abstract art beyond painting-although I find this often a tricky exercise. Abstract art is alive and well indeed, I recently published a video on 8 emerging abstract painters to watch in 2022-feel free to have a look! Wishing you all the best!
I enjoyed watching this video. Seeing all of these people together in brief like that had a strange effect on me. I saw it last night before sleep and it seemed to me that there was some similarity that connected all the ones with geometric lines, squares, circles, and pie wedges. I just could not figure what the sensation was of connection. This morning I realized what it is. They all seem to have been deeply influenced by quilts and blankets. I know this seems so weird, but look at them all together with quilt pieces, all over white tiny squares like blanket weave, in mind, and please tell me what you think? Is it possible that our early childhood influences might come out with abstract in a way that is unrealized by the artist?
Hi Julie, thank you for tuning in and for sharing this intriguing comment. I believe with abstract art, what connects various artworks, artists, and even art movements, can sometimes simply be the person beholding them-as was the case with you. I believe this connection in your mind is a projection of your interpretation, which is interesting to say the least! And yes, free associations have this effect, wether is we are interpreting a picture, a dream, or an abstract painting. Have a great day!
A big thank you for this great video! However, I feel I missed references to three amazing abstract artists I deeply admire: Victor Vasarely (maybe, instead of Bridget Riley), Yves Klein, and Zao Wou Ki. Maybe in a next video?
Hi Konstantinos, you are absolutely right! With just 20 spots there were always going to be some major absentees; so thank you for the great recital. Have a great day!
Yayoi kusama, i love her although she has some biomorphic and figurative elements in her art. Love some of joan Miros abstract pieces and Antoni Tapies too. I super love Rothko.
Absolutely! Miro and Kusama were both on our original list, but the biomorphic and figurative elements resulted in excluding them. Have a great day and thank you for tuning in!
Very nice. It’s good to see more different types of abstract that are timeless. I would like to see more varied styles of form and colours that would challenge the artist to help new viewers imaginations broaden taking this style further.
Hi Julian, with just 20 spots, major absentees such as Still would always happen. Happy to see his name in the comments frequently. Great idea for another video, thanks!
Best compliment for your work, for historical porposes, it is important to take account the geometric abstraction of sign symbolism. Capogrossi and the simbolismo segnico Best regards
Impressive list of artists!! I was wondering where Frank Stella would be in the list. He is an incredible artist and an inspiration to the images I make. His sculpture is like no other !!
Hi Cynthia, great question. There is in fact with for instance the Gutai Art Association a lot of interesting stuff going in Asia as well for abstract painting-back then and certainly also today. Maybe we should create a video on this topic in the foreseeable future. So thanks for the suggestion!
Those later paintings by deKooning look more like abstract landscapes… The first blue one look like the house with a pitched roof and the second one looks like possibly the same house with an open door at a different time of day… And it doesn’t really matter… But that’s what abstract painting is it’s not just making marks on a canvas or whatever surface and then Making sure it looks good but actually it’s more decorative and it has nothing to do with abstraction because the abstract art, real abstract art comes from something, it comes from something you’ve seen, some thing you notice in real life… Whether it’s a landscape, still life, person, tree, Figure, animal, whatever… Even furniture… I’ve seen some of franz Clines paintings that look like they were furniture stacked up in different arrangements for him to get those different shapes that look like angular graffiti… But then I saw a painting that looked exactly like eyeglasses that were sitting on a table With chairs just randomly placed upside down and inside out next to a pair of glasses… So I believe abstract art, real abstract art comes from something, it comes from reality… Even Joan Miró never calls himself an abstract artist, sure he would do paintings that were considered abstract by many but his paintings he believed came from something real that was reality, he wanted to paint more like a child but of course with the skill of an adult… Just like Picasso And his many phases of abstraction… And his many paintings that were influenced by other artworks like the masks in Africa… And Kandinsky did the same thing most of his words came from images of horses or plants or trees or landscapes… They weren’t just random mark making like some people think, they have these videos of people pretending to know what they’re doing, creating “abstract artwork“ that has nothing to do with abstraction… They aren’t looking at anything and abstracting it they’re just making images that look like they’re abstract but they aren’t really abstract… It’s just random Mark making… And the worst of the worst are those people who pour paint into a bucket to swirl it around the different colors and then poured onto a piece of paper a canvas and they called that poured acrylic art? which part of that is art? I mean choosing the colors as one thing but everything else is just random… Nothing is really controlled most of it is completely random and lucky and yet some people believe that is abstract art… Bullshit🤬🤮
What’s even more ridiculous is that many of these so-called art critics and historians came up with their own ideas on what the artists were thinking… How many of their ideas were correct about the artist? Were they actually being told the truth by the artist? Or was this all just her opinion about the artist and mate did? I wonder… How much is it from their point of view or how much of it was from the artists point of view.
Wilma AF Klimt has my understanding in wanting to keep her work private. Mercantile wishes pursue artist and most give in. Art changes in relations that involve money. Relations with art galleries require that artist be secure for collaborations beg compromise. Thank you for mentioning Fran’s Kline. I think he was disappointed. In particular his color work lacking the power of his black and white work. What can artist do, we are given what we have. Perhaps Wilma was happy with her talent and sought to protect herself and it.
Glad to have CAI around hard finding a intelligent space to be art vocal. Most social media platforms are gratuitous, patronizing or dull, bland and quite honestly silly. Those of us who are not well known yet still committed, to hours in the studio. Lose touch with those in touch. Well known’s hang out with well knowns. So we hang out with ourselves. The man or women at Starbucks doesn’t need the conversation we require. Thanks for the forum. When I read comments from your viewers most pleased, some frustrated or in between. There is in them this feeling of sharing honest and heartfelt thoughts and opinions. That’s huge they trust you hear them. The sense is your listening that’s everything right there. Solutions come from that. When you spill your gut. When you choke-out from trying to communicate to much that’s inside; what’s left can be informative. I can’t tell you the times I spent an hour writing only to delete it. But got something from the dig. Your content gets us all thinking. No need to reply you already did above. I’m all good. Peace out till next time.
So many of the artist presented in this video I consider minimalist. Especially when you look at what you presented for Frank StelLa which were early works rather than his later works which I think of as more abstract. Maybe there is no more or less abstract it is either with or without subject matter. But then de Kooning‘s early work can be recognized as female figures but his later works become more “abstract”
I believe they coexist today, and not necessarily in separate spheres. One does not have to exclude the other, nor did abstract art exclude representational art from high art in its heyday.
I would love to see a series of documentaries that were more involved… More involved with each artist, Warren fault with how they changed throughout time where they started and where they ended… I guess more detail about who they were their lives and how their artwork changed and evolve throughout time. Because so many artists today just do the same thing over and over and over mainly because of the Gallery situation, how they wanted an artist to be recognizable by repetitive bullshit… They just keep doing the same thing slightly different every time… Why? When I was working for Nicolas Africano, I went to a studio in Champaign Illinois to pick up some of his work to take to the Gallery’s at Navy pier exhibit… I saw his sculpture and I was very fascinated, he’s got beautiful sculptures but when I saw his paintings they were nothing but muddy brown, gray, dull really ugly paintings with somewhat primitive primate human figures that really had no detail just kind of like something you would draw when you’re a kid and then some stupid words underneath that meant nothing but of course they were 10 x 10‘ so obviously they were important right? I asked him, point blank, so what inspired you to do these paintings? They’re so different from your sculpture… She basically said they’re paying me $100,000 apiece… So basically that’s it… Sometimes calories are so stupid, especially the pseudo-intellectual types who think that we can sell this artwork because he’s trying to create a new identity, trying to create a new way of seeing art so therefore it must be good right? No… Sometimes the artist is tricking the gallery owner and sometimes the galleria owner and museums are just tricking the people… Because sometimes they really don’t know what the hell is going on. And I’m saying this is an artist who has been through that situation before… And the Gallery situation, quite often is really horrible… Repeat rinse repeat rinse repeat rinse so damn boring…
Its not easy to paint it really is hard work dedication colour choice the concept the effort i mean it is very important to giveup but it is that fine line that makes you go back to your paintings/because what is a painter without his canvas a brush without a stroke so find inspiration from these preentations highly useful 😊
Maybe better to retitle the video - Abstract Painters - With the current title it is impossible to not include the likes of Donald Judd, Brâncuși, Hepworth, Gabo and so on, or James Turrell. As it is the US centric list seems dated in nature. Abstract painting in the 20th Cent. was largely a dialogue between North American and Europe so you have to include them too and thus explain why most of the 'American' painters were in fact European born. If you're going to include Richter then also have Guston.
Problem with including Af Klint here is that she viewed these paintings as colored diagrams, representing spiritual forces amongst us. They're not about the act of painting, nor thinking about problems of representation. Richter is also a problematic inclusion in that his "abstract" work originally set out to mock abstract painting, was in fact ironizing abstraction as trapped in representational thinking. Although it seems later body of abstract work has drifted away from original impetus.
I agree on af Klint-her objectives were entirely different compared to Kandinsky, and most of her abstract pictures are actually representational. Nevertheless, some works are more abstract than others, and as a case study af Klint is one of the most interesting figures from this perspective for abstract art. Concerning Richter, abstraction was always present in his work-even with his photo paintings. I feel Richter does not only mock abstract painting, but often painting in general.
Honestly the first paintings are nice, but if they weren’t 10‘ x 10‘ or whatever the size they are… Would they be as impactful? Because they almost look like design, like graphic designs you would see on smaller pieces, almost like something you’d see on Postcard or I don’t know it’s just something that is more just decorative… I mean they are attractive in their own way but like I said if they weren’t huge would they have the same impact? I also don’t understand why paintings have to be gigantic… Doesn’t make sense to me… A painting 28 x 38 is just as powerful if not more than a painting that’s 10 x 20‘… It’s not about size and scale… at least not for me… I see a lot more energy and beauty and tension and passion and a piece that is normal size whatever that means, instead of something that is meant to take up the size of a wall… But that’s just me…
Art must be complicated and hard to make in order for it to be art. Complex things are better than simple things. You can't just make something that's simple and not complicated. Only complicated things are beautiful. Realism is very hard and complicated so it's the most beautiful form of art. Abstract art is simple and easy to do some it't the worst form of art. Why are people spending millions of dollars are art. They should be spending millions of dollars buying complicated things like sports cars and sneakers. It's kinda like when people make simple food with only a couple of ingredients; it just cannot be good. If you make food it has too super complex and use hundreds of ingredients in order that it tastes good. Simple food is just plain bad. If someone offers me food that has fewer than 50 ingredient I scoff and laugh in their face. Simpletons is what I call them. They are unable to appreciate complicated food that has double digit ingredient numbers. Same goes with painting. People who enjoy abstract art are unable to appreciate very complicated pieces of art. Take that "modern art" LOL. I bet you feel dumb haha.
And here’s another one Barnett CNewman… I mean seriously? Scherer sometimes I see a little bit of texture or a little bit of color difference in his paintings but I guess I understand his paintings were about the power of color and how it can affect your mood… Much like Roscoe… But I’m fine just works to be lazy at the time sure they were big… They had to be… Because a 10 x 10inch version of his paintings wouldn’t have the same impact… so he did 20‘ x 10‘ paintings… Does that mean it’s a better painting because it’s big? No… But immerse is the viewer in some thing that they’re not used to… Just color on a grand scale… But I still find his artwork boring… At least mother well made a little more effort to make it more interesting. Like Rothko..
There's never been an abstract painting explained in the entire history of the world. There is no abstraction anyway, as all pictorial acreage is form representative by geometric fact. Still, they're abstract yeah. I make them myself. :-)
I am not sure if all abstraction originates from representing geometrics-think of Pollock or Frankenthaler. And nevertheless, it is easier to refer to art that is not derived from physical reality. Have a great day and thank you for tuning in!
The real problem is not "abstract" or "figurative". There is no actual difference. The real cleavage is between sincere art adventurers, who are true researchers about human condition, and commercial vogue following clowns (they've always been). Giotto or Da Vinci told to anyone who wanted to listen, that art was BY NATURE something abstract and spiritual: "La pittura e cosa mentale" said Leonardo, and 4 centuries before, there is that incredible "circle story" with Giotto and the papal emissary. In the XIXe century, it was witnessed about Delacroix fighting to "tune" a GREY (not a wood bundle). And so on... Only the uneducated simpletons believe in that fight between abstraction and figuration. The problem is, that some of them call themselves or are called "artists".
A very interesting comment; thank you for sharing-and I believe I agree. For me personally, the debate of abstraction versus figuration is a non-debate, yet is has been going on for almost a century until it becomes pure idiocy. Even more, when artists believe they invented the wheel and say they are relevant because they combine both... I strongly believe in this notion you described of the sincere art adventurer. Greetings from Belgium!
Very unfair All I see nothing Or nothing is the art Simply many artists lost in oblivion while others reached to the pinnacle by drawing squares and scribbles
These videos are trying to validate abstract art and make it more universally accepted. If we eliminate the controversial, experimental or commercial aspects of this form of expression, it boils down to a singularity that only involves the one making it. A steam of consciousness. It only expresses one persons mental or psychological mumbling. Many espouse it is a breaking down of life into forms to illustrate life. Distilling experiences to there essence. But, most of it, to me, does not explain the complexities of life or living. It is not abstraction, but distraction and confusion without any focus. It is childish in execution, without color harmony or form. It is a mental spewing of unconscious ramblings manifested in a visible form. One comes away without any understanding of self, the world, society or life itself. There is only a singular idea that is not interpreted and shared universally between peoples. If anything it reflects our current socio- political world. A distracted, abstracted, disjointed and conflicting world with continued loss of meaning. There is no shared community in this form of work. No matter how much or little work one puts into it, the results are the same. Meaningless form, scratches, marks, spills, dashed, blobs of nothing.
Maybe if you gave abstact art some more time and you looked at more pieces you would understand that you can find a liking to what your prefered artist can have in mind. the orginization of their style in mass to look at. Every single artist had a style it can be pondered and make a question of what is it you want to do with life, what colors do you enjoy out of this world, and how is it you want to organize yourself. In my eyes at the least to share abstract art is just very personal. Whether or not people attract themselves to it is completely to them. I do recommend doing research on an extensive amount of abstracts to get a true feeling of why an artist chose to pursue the life they did. It can teach you a lot if you dig deep enough.
It certainly is one person's 'view' or experience etc but are we not all individuals? And is it not the individuals that make up the collective/community? Also, there are of course shared emotions/beliefs/sensibilities..I used to have no time for abstract art but now I can see that I was approaching it with my head, now I experience it in an entirely different way.
What you say abt abstract art says more about you than the validity of the art. We don’t need photographs anymore. We are not factual beings, we are spiritual beings. We are not IN the world, but OF the world. Everything is true, but nothing is accepted. If you don’t understand a piece of art…look in the mirror. Not everything needs to be understood explicitly.
you guys have all these amazing artist on your list, but you couldn't find a single Indian artist who paint more detailed painting? i am sure if you look into some Indian artist you will find plenty of artist (dead/alive) which will fit your criteria... come on guys have a look at some Indian artist's work at least... "tanjore art", "contemporary art", "Portraits"... you name it and India got it.
Hi Arun, thank you for tuning in. I know several Indian artists of course - think of the highly established Anish Kapoor, Jitish Kallat, or Shilpa Gupta. But when it comes to the development of abstract painting, India was not a center of pioneers of abstract art, hence no Indian abstract painters are included in this list. But I do agree, the Indian art scene is all too often overlooked!
First you talk a lot of rubbish and then you don't even mention Clyfford Still. Maybe next time you do your homework before you make a video like this.
Terrific artist for sure-with just a selection of 20 artists, there was always going to be some major absentees, hence my request to share them in the comments. Feel free to elaborate on my rubbish as well! Have a great day
To call this kind of rubbish easily created by children art is already ridiculous, but even more ridiculous is the pose of a specialist intellectual who wants to equate this nonsense with great artists of the past.
Last week we defined abstract art. Today, we are discussing 20 of the most influential figures of abstract art. I am aware we are missing numerous other highly influential artists, so feel free to continue the art historical journey and discussion here in the comments. What abstract artists do you believe are the most influential throughout art history? Chat soon!
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Thank you for your response.
I wrote many essays about abstract art, including the abstract expressionists as well as impressionists.
I won’t take part in any discussions online regarding those subjects.
love the dog raising an eyebrow from time to time and yawning as your man talks about muscular painting
My favorite video on your channel yet. Being able to explain so many talented artist in a quick and efficient manner really captured the historical achievements and importance of the abstract era. Thank you again for such amazing work.
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Your simple introductory and invitational views of these artists and their works encourage viewers to explore so much more. Thank you for this. I'm glad I subscribed.
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Thanks. Diebenkorn would be at the top of my list.
Absolutely! One of my personal favorites as well!
Makes me keep going!!!
I loved this 2nd part of CAI _ Abstracts _ Now I'm going to see the 1st part so I can understand the fantastic leap taken by Hilma Af Klint! What spark encouraged her!
The unseen spirit realm, actually.
Sounds terrific, enjoy!
Well presented! Thank you!
My favorite peace of art is the abstract beige form in the couch
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Loving Perrier getting a name mention at the beginning 😃
She definitely deserves the mention for all of her hard work 😅
3or 4 very good ones.thanks.
Wonderful overview. Thank you for the time an energy put into creating this.
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Great video! I’d have included Sean Scully and also some sculptors (as the video is entitled ‘artists’ rather than ‘painters’!) e.g. Judd, Smith, Gabo, Hepworth, Serra etc. A visit to art school final exhibitions shows that abstraction is alive, well and constantly being reinvented (even if this is rarely reflected in public galleries), so a focus on upcoming abstract artists would be great.
Hi Chris, thank you for tuning in. I completely agree on Scully and the inclusion of abstract art beyond painting-although I find this often a tricky exercise. Abstract art is alive and well indeed, I recently published a video on 8 emerging abstract painters to watch in 2022-feel free to have a look! Wishing you all the best!
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I'm struggling with abstract art yet in the short time I've been trying my hand at painting I seem to be unintentionally heading that way. Thank you
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I enjoyed watching this video. Seeing all of these people together in brief like that had a strange effect on me. I saw it last night before sleep and it seemed to me that there was some similarity that connected all the ones with geometric lines, squares, circles, and pie wedges. I just could not figure what the sensation was of connection. This morning I realized what it is. They all seem to have been deeply influenced by quilts and blankets. I know this seems so weird, but look at them all together with quilt pieces, all over white tiny squares like blanket weave, in mind, and please tell me what you think? Is it possible that our early childhood influences might come out with abstract in a way that is unrealized by the artist?
Hi Julie, thank you for tuning in and for sharing this intriguing comment. I believe with abstract art, what connects various artworks, artists, and even art movements, can sometimes simply be the person beholding them-as was the case with you. I believe this connection in your mind is a projection of your interpretation, which is interesting to say the least! And yes, free associations have this effect, wether is we are interpreting a picture, a dream, or an abstract painting. Have a great day!
A big thank you for this great video! However, I feel I missed references to three amazing abstract artists I deeply admire: Victor Vasarely (maybe, instead of Bridget Riley), Yves Klein, and Zao Wou Ki. Maybe in a next video?
Hi Konstantinos, you are absolutely right! With just 20 spots there were always going to be some major absentees; so thank you for the great recital. Have a great day!
Beautiful video
Thank you for sharing
I enjoyed it watching
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I’m looking for a link to Part 1. I love the work of Wolf Kahn and Fritz Scholder. The story of Yves Klein is so so interesting.
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Yayoi kusama, i love her although she has some biomorphic and figurative elements in her art. Love some of joan Miros abstract pieces and Antoni Tapies too. I super love Rothko.
I agree, I would like to see Miro and Kusama
Absolutely! Miro and Kusama were both on our original list, but the biomorphic and figurative elements resulted in excluding them. Have a great day and thank you for tuning in!
Great job amazing content creator with a great channel full of interesting videos
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Very nice. It’s good to see more different types of abstract that are timeless. I would like to see more varied styles of form and colours that would challenge the artist to help new viewers imaginations broaden taking this style further.
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wish you included more artist of color. Representation is important.
Is Clyfford Still not 'famous' enough to make this list? Also, I'd love to see your list of 'best' abstract artists from recent decades.
Hi Julian, with just 20 spots, major absentees such as Still would always happen. Happy to see his name in the comments frequently. Great idea for another video, thanks!
Best compliment for your work, for historical porposes, it is important to take account the geometric abstraction of sign symbolism. Capogrossi and the simbolismo segnico Best regards
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Impressive list of artists!! I was wondering where Frank Stella would be in the list. He is an incredible artist and an inspiration to the images I make. His sculpture is like no other !!
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What's happening to abstract painters in Asia?
I love your work! Informative.
Hi Cynthia, great question. There is in fact with for instance the Gutai Art Association a lot of interesting stuff going in Asia as well for abstract painting-back then and certainly also today. Maybe we should create a video on this topic in the foreseeable future. So thanks for the suggestion!
Those later paintings by deKooning look more like abstract landscapes… The first blue one look like the house with a pitched roof and the second one looks like possibly the same house with an open door at a different time of day… And it doesn’t really matter… But that’s what abstract painting is it’s not just making marks on a canvas or whatever surface and then Making sure it looks good but actually it’s more decorative and it has nothing to do with abstraction because the abstract art, real abstract art comes from something, it comes from something you’ve seen, some thing you notice in real life… Whether it’s a landscape, still life, person, tree, Figure, animal, whatever… Even furniture… I’ve seen some of franz Clines paintings that look like they were furniture stacked up in different arrangements for him to get those different shapes that look like angular graffiti… But then I saw a painting that looked exactly like eyeglasses that were sitting on a table With chairs just randomly placed upside down and inside out next to a pair of glasses… So I believe abstract art, real abstract art comes from something, it comes from reality… Even Joan Miró never calls himself an abstract artist, sure he would do paintings that were considered abstract by many but his paintings he believed came from something real that was reality, he wanted to paint more like a child but of course with the skill of an adult… Just like Picasso And his many phases of abstraction… And his many paintings that were influenced by other artworks like the masks in Africa… And Kandinsky did the same thing most of his words came from images of horses or plants or trees or landscapes… They weren’t just random mark making like some people think, they have these videos of people pretending to know what they’re doing, creating “abstract artwork“ that has nothing to do with abstraction… They aren’t looking at anything and abstracting it they’re just making images that look like they’re abstract but they aren’t really abstract… It’s just random Mark making… And the worst of the worst are those people who pour paint into a bucket to swirl it around the different colors and then poured onto a piece of paper a canvas and they called that poured acrylic art? which part of that is art? I mean choosing the colors as one thing but everything else is just random… Nothing is really controlled most of it is completely random and lucky and yet some people believe that is abstract art… Bullshit🤬🤮
What’s even more ridiculous is that many of these so-called art critics and historians came up with their own ideas on what the artists were thinking… How many of their ideas were correct about the artist? Were they actually being told the truth by the artist? Or was this all just her opinion about the artist and mate did? I wonder… How much is it from their point of view or how much of it was from the artists point of view.
Wilma AF Klimt has my understanding in wanting to keep her work private. Mercantile wishes pursue artist and most give in. Art changes in relations that involve money. Relations with art galleries require that artist be secure for collaborations beg compromise. Thank you for mentioning Fran’s Kline. I think he was disappointed. In particular his color work lacking the power of his black and white work. What can artist do, we are given what we have. Perhaps Wilma was happy with her talent and sought to protect herself and it.
Hi Daniel, thank you so much for tuning in and writing down your thoughts-interesting as always! Wishing you all the best and stay in touch!
Glad to have CAI around hard finding a intelligent space to be art vocal. Most social media platforms are gratuitous, patronizing or dull, bland and quite honestly silly. Those of us who are not well known yet still committed, to hours in the studio. Lose touch with those in touch. Well known’s hang out with well knowns. So we hang out with ourselves. The man or women at Starbucks doesn’t need the conversation we require. Thanks for the forum. When I read comments from your viewers most pleased, some frustrated or in between. There is in them this feeling of sharing honest and heartfelt thoughts and opinions. That’s huge they trust you hear them. The sense is your listening that’s everything right there. Solutions come from that. When you spill your gut. When you choke-out from trying to communicate to much that’s inside; what’s left can be informative. I can’t tell you the times I spent an hour writing only to delete it. But got something from the dig. Your content gets us all thinking. No need to reply you already did above. I’m all good. Peace out till next time.
Can you pls make videos on Indian Art and Artists
We will try!
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So many of the artist presented in this video I consider minimalist. Especially when you look at what you presented for Frank StelLa which were early works rather than his later works which I think of as more abstract. Maybe there is no more or less abstract it is either with or without subject matter. But then de Kooning‘s early work can be recognized as female figures but his later works become more “abstract”
Hi Dolly, I believe you are spot on in your analysis. Thank you for tuning in and wishing you all the best!
Number one Artist is me. Don Emigholz Jr.... By far.
I appreciate the inclusion of Hilda, Helen, Agnes
But for me, Joan Mitchell did deserve a place on the list.
Absolutely! Love her colorful marks-great painter
I appreciate these abstract art better than the so-called concept art or "con art" done by "con artists".
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Very good! Victor Vasarely ?
Thank you! Great artist indeed, certainly deserving of a mention here!
abstrakt was yesterday, representional ART is today !
I believe they coexist today, and not necessarily in separate spheres. One does not have to exclude the other, nor did abstract art exclude representational art from high art in its heyday.
Valeu!
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Absolutely! I believe she's the main reason for at least half of our subscribers 😂🐶
Thanks for your video but, no surprise, it is very easy to show what has already been positioned as such. it would not be bad to take some risk
I would love to see a series of documentaries that were more involved… More involved with each artist, Warren fault with how they changed throughout time where they started and where they ended… I guess more detail about who they were their lives and how their artwork changed and evolve throughout time. Because so many artists today just do the same thing over and over and over mainly because of the Gallery situation, how they wanted an artist to be recognizable by repetitive bullshit… They just keep doing the same thing slightly different every time… Why? When I was working for Nicolas Africano, I went to a studio in Champaign Illinois to pick up some of his work to take to the Gallery’s at Navy pier exhibit… I saw his sculpture and I was very fascinated, he’s got beautiful sculptures but when I saw his paintings they were nothing but muddy brown, gray, dull really ugly paintings with somewhat primitive primate human figures that really had no detail just kind of like something you would draw when you’re a kid and then some stupid words underneath that meant nothing but of course they were 10 x 10‘ so obviously they were important right? I asked him, point blank, so what inspired you to do these paintings? They’re so different from your sculpture… She basically said they’re paying me $100,000 apiece… So basically that’s it… Sometimes calories are so stupid, especially the pseudo-intellectual types who think that we can sell this artwork because he’s trying to create a new identity, trying to create a new way of seeing art so therefore it must be good right? No… Sometimes the artist is tricking the gallery owner and sometimes the galleria owner and museums are just tricking the people… Because sometimes they really don’t know what the hell is going on. And I’m saying this is an artist who has been through that situation before… And the Gallery situation, quite often is really horrible… Repeat rinse repeat rinse repeat rinse so damn boring…
Its not easy to paint it really is hard work dedication colour choice the concept the effort i mean it is very important to giveup but it is that fine line that makes you go back to your paintings/because what is a painter without his canvas a brush without a stroke so find inspiration from these preentations highly useful 😊
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I suggest Bram Bogart, Hans Hartung
Two of my personal favorites! Congratulations on your great taste ;-) Have a great day!
Jasper Johns should have made this list.
great
Thank you!
Hilma Af Klint and Beatriz Milhazes! After them the abstract became less poetically happy!
Maybe better to retitle the video - Abstract Painters - With the current title it is impossible to not include the likes of Donald Judd, Brâncuși, Hepworth, Gabo and so on, or James Turrell. As it is the US centric list seems dated in nature. Abstract painting in the 20th Cent. was largely a dialogue between North American and Europe so you have to include them too and thus explain why most of the 'American' painters were in fact European born. If you're going to include Richter then also have Guston.
Why not Michael Bezak?
Problem with including Af Klint here is that she viewed these paintings as colored diagrams, representing spiritual forces amongst us. They're not about the act of painting, nor thinking about problems of representation.
Richter is also a problematic inclusion in that his "abstract" work originally set out to mock abstract painting, was in fact ironizing abstraction as trapped in representational thinking. Although it seems later body of abstract work has drifted away from original impetus.
I agree on af Klint-her objectives were entirely different compared to Kandinsky, and most of her abstract pictures are actually representational. Nevertheless, some works are more abstract than others, and as a case study af Klint is one of the most interesting figures from this perspective for abstract art. Concerning Richter, abstraction was always present in his work-even with his photo paintings. I feel Richter does not only mock abstract painting, but often painting in general.
Why are there so few women abstract art painters?
Abstract painting emerged in an era when art was still very male-dominated. Luckily, things have changed for the better ever since!
What about František Kupka?
Very influential figure indeed! I believe we mentioned Kupka in our previous video. Thank you for tuning in!
Honestly the first paintings are nice, but if they weren’t 10‘ x 10‘ or whatever the size they are… Would they be as impactful? Because they almost look like design, like graphic designs you would see on smaller pieces, almost like something you’d see on Postcard or I don’t know it’s just something that is more just decorative… I mean they are attractive in their own way but like I said if they weren’t huge would they have the same impact? I also don’t understand why paintings have to be gigantic… Doesn’t make sense to me… A painting 28 x 38 is just as powerful if not more than a painting that’s 10 x 20‘… It’s not about size and scale… at least not for me… I see a lot more energy and beauty and tension and passion and a piece that is normal size whatever that means, instead of something that is meant to take up the size of a wall… But that’s just me…
Carmen Herrera, Carlos Cruz Diez, Jesus Soto, Helio Oiticica :)
Terrific recital! Thank you for sharing!
I will never understand why Rothko is considered a great artist. He painted large rectangles mostly one color.
Art must be complicated and hard to make in order for it to be art. Complex things are better than simple things. You can't just make something that's simple and not complicated. Only complicated things are beautiful. Realism is very hard and complicated so it's the most beautiful form of art. Abstract art is simple and easy to do some it't the worst form of art. Why are people spending millions of dollars are art. They should be spending millions of dollars buying complicated things like sports cars and sneakers. It's kinda like when people make simple food with only a couple of ingredients; it just cannot be good. If you make food it has too super complex and use hundreds of ingredients in order that it tastes good. Simple food is just plain bad. If someone offers me food that has fewer than 50 ingredient I scoff and laugh in their face. Simpletons is what I call them. They are unable to appreciate complicated food that has double digit ingredient numbers. Same goes with painting. People who enjoy abstract art are unable to appreciate very complicated pieces of art. Take that "modern art" LOL. I bet you feel dumb haha.
Where are the women?
And here’s another one Barnett CNewman… I mean seriously? Scherer sometimes I see a little bit of texture or a little bit of color difference in his paintings but I guess I understand his paintings were about the power of color and how it can affect your mood… Much like Roscoe… But I’m fine just works to be lazy at the time sure they were big… They had to be… Because a 10 x 10inch version of his paintings wouldn’t have the same impact… so he did 20‘ x 10‘ paintings… Does that mean it’s a better painting because it’s big? No… But immerse is the viewer in some thing that they’re not used to… Just color on a grand scale… But I still find his artwork boring… At least mother well made a little more effort to make it more interesting. Like Rothko..
There's never been an abstract painting explained in the entire history of the world.
There is no abstraction anyway, as all pictorial acreage is form representative by geometric fact.
Still, they're abstract yeah.
I make them myself. :-)
I am not sure if all abstraction originates from representing geometrics-think of Pollock or Frankenthaler. And nevertheless, it is easier to refer to art that is not derived from physical reality. Have a great day and thank you for tuning in!
No black, African or African American artists, huh???
The real problem is not "abstract" or "figurative".
There is no actual difference.
The real cleavage is between sincere art adventurers, who are true researchers about human condition, and commercial vogue following clowns (they've always been).
Giotto or Da Vinci told to anyone who wanted to listen, that art was BY NATURE something abstract and spiritual: "La pittura e cosa mentale" said Leonardo, and 4 centuries before, there is that incredible "circle story" with Giotto and the papal emissary.
In the XIXe century, it was witnessed about Delacroix fighting to "tune" a GREY (not a wood bundle).
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Only the uneducated simpletons believe in that fight between abstraction and figuration.
The problem is, that some of them call themselves or are called "artists".
A very interesting comment; thank you for sharing-and I believe I agree. For me personally, the debate of abstraction versus figuration is a non-debate, yet is has been going on for almost a century until it becomes pure idiocy. Even more, when artists believe they invented the wheel and say they are relevant because they combine both... I strongly believe in this notion you described of the sincere art adventurer. Greetings from Belgium!
Very unfair
All I see nothing
Or nothing is the art
Simply many artists lost in oblivion while others reached to the pinnacle by drawing squares and scribbles
These videos are trying to validate abstract art and make it more universally accepted. If we eliminate the controversial, experimental or commercial aspects of this form of expression, it boils down to a singularity that only involves the one making it. A steam of consciousness. It only expresses one persons mental or psychological mumbling. Many espouse it is a breaking down of life into forms to illustrate life. Distilling experiences to there essence. But, most of it, to me, does not explain the complexities of life or living. It is not abstraction, but distraction and confusion without any focus. It is childish in execution, without color harmony or form. It is a mental spewing of unconscious ramblings manifested in a visible form. One comes away without any understanding of self, the world, society or life itself. There is only a singular idea that is not interpreted and shared universally between peoples. If anything it reflects our current socio- political world. A distracted, abstracted, disjointed and conflicting world with continued loss of meaning. There is no shared community in this form of work. No matter how much or little work one puts into it, the results are the same. Meaningless form, scratches, marks, spills, dashed, blobs of nothing.
Maybe if you gave abstact art some more time and you looked at more pieces you would understand that you can find a liking to what your prefered artist can have in mind. the orginization of their style in mass to look at. Every single artist had a style it can be pondered and make a question of what is it you want to do with life, what colors do you enjoy out of this world, and how is it you want to organize yourself. In my eyes at the least to share abstract art is just very personal. Whether or not people attract themselves to it is completely to them. I do recommend doing research on an extensive amount of abstracts to get a true feeling of why an artist chose to pursue the life they did. It can teach you a lot if you dig deep enough.
It certainly is one person's 'view' or experience etc but are we not all individuals? And is it not the individuals that make up the collective/community? Also, there are of course shared emotions/beliefs/sensibilities..I used to have no time for abstract art but now I can see that I was approaching it with my head, now I experience it in an entirely different way.
What you say abt abstract art says more about you than the validity of the art. We don’t need photographs anymore. We are not factual beings, we are spiritual beings. We are not IN the world, but OF the world. Everything is true, but nothing is accepted.
If you don’t understand a piece of art…look in the mirror. Not everything needs to be understood explicitly.
The only person scratching the service is you.
I’ve got more insights from this branch then from the video 👌🏻
you guys have all these amazing artist on your list, but you couldn't find a single Indian artist who paint more detailed painting? i am sure if you look into some Indian artist you will find plenty of artist (dead/alive) which will fit your criteria... come on guys have a look at some Indian artist's work at least... "tanjore art", "contemporary art", "Portraits"... you name it and India got it.
Hi Arun, thank you for tuning in. I know several Indian artists of course - think of the highly established Anish Kapoor, Jitish Kallat, or Shilpa Gupta. But when it comes to the development of abstract painting, India was not a center of pioneers of abstract art, hence no Indian abstract painters are included in this list. But I do agree, the Indian art scene is all too often overlooked!
@@contemporaryartissue thanks for atleast acknowledging that... it means a lot... and you just doubled the respect I have for you guys 🙏
First you talk a lot of rubbish and then you don't even mention Clyfford Still. Maybe next time you do your homework before you make a video like this.
Terrific artist for sure-with just a selection of 20 artists, there was always going to be some major absentees, hence my request to share them in the comments. Feel free to elaborate on my rubbish as well! Have a great day
Don't need to show yourself... Just explain and maybe save some space for more images. Thanks & goodbye...
So we get to see Perrier
To call this kind of rubbish easily created by children art is already ridiculous, but even more ridiculous is the pose of a specialist intellectual who wants to equate this nonsense with great artists of the past.
Your dog was more interesting then your video
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Valeu!
Thank you Vincente!