Conscript rebellion is 'Putin's worst fear'
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2022
- "Now I think his worst fears are coming true...this is not going to work out well for him on the front lines"
Conscript "cannon fodder" is not going to save Putin's army from defeat in Ukraine, Natia Seskuria and General Philip Breedlove tells #TimesRadio.
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The only way to to handle a bully is to stand up to him. Bullies are basically cowards.
Exactly, but Putin is a powerful coward.
That works in the West, where we have rights and rule of law. Not so well elsewhere.
@@groaningmole4338
Ghaddaffi: "Yes!"
Right
@@groaningmole4338 Authoritarians make their own laws, breaking them is an obligation to free people.
Nato needs to maintain Ukraine supply lines so Ukraine can free all of its land
All support to Ukraine!
🇺🇸 🫂 🇺🇦
You don't say.
@@fgerv
@H M ... Et alors rien ne peut les y empêcher ?
@@fgerv That's right. NATO has no legal mechanism to invade anybody as a body without a member country first being attacked.
A radioactive fallout cloud drifting into Poland, Romania or the Baltics would fit the criterion of "attack", though.
Russians are justifiably proud of their heroic resistance to the German invasion of their country, eg the battle of Stalingrad. Perhaps they're aware that Ukrainians can show equal courage and tenacity when defending their homeland.
There isn't a huge distinction between Ukrainians and Russians, so Ukrainians carry that sense of heroic resistance just as much as the Russians.
Ukraine had way more casualties than Russia in WOII if you look at the demographics. They made the greatest sacrifice to save Europe, and now they are doing it again.
@@marmac83 The distinction between ukr & rus could be compared to Geordies & Cockneys, they have the exact same roots with most of the big differences appearing only recently in history
Actually, the millions of Russian soldiers that died were thrown by Stalin in front of German tanks, till their tracks started losing grip in the gore. Cannon fodder, just like today. Little heroism there.
À une différence près... L'ex Urss sous Staline, son gvt n'a-t-il pas signé un pacte de non-agression (germano-soviétique) avec l'Allemagne nazis ; incluant d'accords diplomatiques et militaires signés le 23 août 1939 à Moscou? Donc conséquemment: N'ont pas eu le choix de se défendre contre l'agresseur de leur pays.
The Russian army has shown over the past 7 months that it suffers from systemic problems from the top down especially when it comes to logistics - it's not going to suddenly transform into an effective fighting force due to an influx of partially trained conscripts.
I'll like to add the obvious logic that if u have organizational problems and add 1 million, u get 1 million more organization problem!
Really??? Bakhmut will fall soon and nobody in Western Media is giving those daily updates from Donbas anymore.The reality is 10% of Russian Army against Ukraine+US+UK+EU+ tons of sanctions is controlling 20% of Ukraine, and soon Russia will incorporate them. Never happened in world history!
@@Luminousreign the Russians will bomb themselves
No but the risk is sheer weight of men may make the difference.
More like completely untrained.
Russia has been using the same war strategy since at least the Napoleonic Wars, and it's the same strategy they plan to use now. They throw their young men at the enemy cannons until it breaks the enemy. This is the reason why Russia always suffers the worst casualties in every war. They care nothing for the young Russians they use as cannon fodder. The Russian population hasn't even recovered from the loss of many millions of young men that died in WW2. This strategy would have lost them that war if it wasn't for the US sending them equipment and food through the lend lease act. The US sent thousands of planes, tanks, and other vehicles; millions of guns and ammo; millions of blankets and other gear for soldiers; millions of tons of food; and much more. This time the very thing that saved them from defeat in WW2 is working against them. The Ukrainians are the ones getting assistance from the lend lease act, and that equipment hasn't even started to arrive yet
and that is the damned truth...hmmm, no trolls yet, good job!
Throwing in your young ones also tends to destroy your gene pool and your pension.
For most of the war in Europe, my Father, a Walking Boss on the Portland, Oregon waterfront who was in charge of loading ships with war materials destined for Murmansk, Russia loaded hundreds of Liberty Ships with ammunition and everything one could envision that could be used in warfare. The war materials were loaded into boxcars in the hold, even aircraft with their wings temporarily removed. On the decks were steam locomotives, with coal tenders and water tenders all filled with coal and water. When the ships docked in Murmansk during the night to evade German bombing, the locomotives were unloaded first and put on the tracks, then the tenders and coal cars, after that everything in the holds were connected to these trains, which hopefully would be long gone from Murmansk by sunrise! Without that Lend/Lease assistance for the entire duration of WWII in Europe, Russians today would be speaking German!
The arctic convoys to the USSR in WW2 were crewed and supplied by many allied nations. The first five arctic convoys sailed before the USA was at war. And of course the USA only joined the fight because Germany declared war on them.
Contributions of lives and material to the arctic convoys were directly related to the nation's size and economic status. Poland was occupied by the Germans, so its contribution was necessarily much lighter than the USA's.
But it's an indictment of the USA's educational system that so few Americans have any idea about any nation other than themselves.
Cannon fodder for the US Military Industrial complex.
More and more Russians start to understand that Putin has to go. It’s a matter of time now.
And then after him.
What kind of garbage will THEN be rulling Russia.
Russia need to change their mentality. Something they have not done the last 100 years
I agree !
100% Agree
He needs silencing..
I wonder if when Trump is looking at what is happening - if he is even paying any attention - he sees what his happening to Putin as a prophecy of what will happen to him...
If Putin is such a genuis tactician rather than an unhinged narcissist, then why can't he accept his legacy is in tatters and unrecoverable. It really is straightforward logic
Not to an unhinged lunatic.
He is probably some impulsive sociopath.
@@karmpuscookie Quite so, mr trump thought the sun shone out of pootins jacksie ... probably still does
Most authoritarian regimes double down on a bad policy because it hides weakness.
Such a strategy only works though if you live in an information vacuum.
Because Putin is a criminal, gangster and murderer. Logic forms no real part of his mindset.
The thing with a threat is, the first time you use it there is great shock and fear, but after you've repeated it a hundered times it loses it's meaning.
God Bless Ukraine, love from the UK🇺🇦🇬🇧
More cannon fodder and body bag fillers. Sad.
fertilizer! 🌻🌻🌻🌻
Some of them want to go to war.
@@PedroFerreira-ze5yp Yeah, imagine being such a subhuman that you, a non Russian living in the Tsardom get put under the Russian/Golden horde boot and forced to give your lif- wait a minute.
Imagine having an army made up of men arrested on the streets, prisoners fighting to receive a pardon, drug addicts and alcoholics, all receiving a two week rudimentary training at best. With poor clothing, rusty weapons, into a harsh northern winter. What could possibly go wrong?
You think that they aren't hardened already...they make the best soldiers IE years of rage let loose. Think about it they fight in prison every day over food or cigarettes.
@@ntal5859 Real soldiers are an entirely different breed from run of the mill criminals I'm sorry to burst your bubble.
It's insane, looks like he's trying to find out an excuse to use nuclear weapons🙄
@@ntal5859 they make very poor soldiers. I would be more afraid of them than the enemy.
@@ntal5859nah, most of them are rattling
"We destroyed the russian professional army, now for the amatures"
It's like a tower defense game in reverse.
Amateurs are by definition people who do something out of pleasure. These poor people are mostly there against their will. They will neither have the desire nor the ability to fight effectively. The outcome will be innocent people sent to their deaths, on both sides. Russia has a history of using people as cannon fodder, nothing has changed in this.
The 300k peasant horde will be a logistical nightmare for the Russians to field and maintain - an overall net negative, with no clear benefit. They do not have enough logistical supplies to maintain what's left of their army, adding more bodies will literally result on units of men killing and ravaging each other for limited resources, especially as winter sets in.
They could easily just sabotage everything once they are deployed. and then surrender
When you're in a trench, miles from the opposing side, with artillery raining down, surrender isn't aways an option.
And honestly I would bet that once in the fight the Ukrainians are not being very merciful to alot of prisoner's in the heat of battle
@@jacqdanieles That's true but there could be opportunities. Many of these conscripts are going to express their anger through sabotge, defections and by disobeying orders.
@@blackbeard6423 and fragging officers!
@@jacqdanieles just wait it out until first contact!
No.. Losing his grip on power, assasination, & karma being real are his worst fears ;o)
You can't have too much sympathy for the Russian people. Most of them know what is going on in Ukraine and yet they did nothing until their own lives became threatened.
The very obvious indication of the male Russians getting out of Russia strongly suggests they don't want to have anything to do with any invasion of Ukraine or probably any invasion of any other country. These Russians may very well not care to do anything about what PUTIN is doing. NOW that they are being forcibly "DRAFTED" ....they actually running away like a bunch of COWARDS ......RATHER THAN STAY AND OBJECT TO BEING DRAFTED.
THIS DOES NOT SAY VERY MUCH ABOUT THESE RUSSIANS ......AND MAY VERY WELL EXPLAIN WHY/HOW THE RUSSIAN FIGHTERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH KILLING INNOCENT WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND MEN. THEY ARE A BUNCH OF WAR MONGERS AND COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT OTHERS. I would really like for someone to interview these soldiers and find out why they are killing innocent people.
IF ....and that's a big "IF", ....., "conscripts" just recently beat up an officer for telling them 'you are all cannon fodder' ......THEN GOOD FOR THEM. NOW .......all they have to do is the same to PUTIN AND EVERY ONE OF THE MILITARY LEADERS WHO ARE GOING ALONG WITH THIS MAD MAN!!!!
IF .....and that's another big "IF" .......Russian soldiers were to take charge of THEIR OWN DESTINY ....and come back down to earth and realize what PUTIN and EVERY ONE OF THE COMMANDERS ARE DOING .....AND BEAT THE BJESUS OUT OF EVERYONE OF THEM AND PUT EVERY ONE OF THEM AGAINST A WALL FOR A FIRING SQUAD TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT ........ I think the rest of the world would go to Russia and congratulate them on a "job well done". I think THEN the world would embrace Russia to rejoin the rest of the world in a sane manner ....TO BECOME A DEMOCRACY.
ALSO ....EVERY RUSSIAN OLIGARCH WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IMPRISONED FOR THE REST OF THEIR NATURAL LIVES WITH NO OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY KIND OF APPEALS. Any such appeal attempts would put every supporting lawyer behind the SAME BARS .....ALSO PERMANENTLY.
LET RUSSIAN BEGIN TO GOVERN THEMSELVES WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM ALL EXISTING CORRUPT LEADERS!!!!
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Many Russian people before conscription were cheering the war on....now the cows have come home to graze ....
What goes around comes around.
Out of the 350,000 Russian soldiers rotated through Ukraine battle front, casualties are 53,500 KIA; 173,000 WIA. This is a 64.7% casualty rate!!!
Who the F-K wants to go to Ukraine to fight patriotic Ukrainian armed with NATO weapons where your odds of being a casualty are a lot greater than 50%?
CCR sang: “Come away, come away, if you are going; Leave the sinking ship behind.”
stephen can you give me source to your statistics please? thanks. seems too good to be true but maybe you got sources
@@roflomaozedong Ukrainian, UK MI, and leaked Russian documents all confirm a figure 50,000+ if Russian allies and contract soldier casualties are factored in too. I took a median figure. US estimates are high, but lower than these 3.. The 64.7% Russian chance of being a casualty compared to a 12.3% chance of being a US casualty in the Vietnam War. This is why Russia is in a totally defensive posture except for the Bakhmut part of the front.
Since Ukrainian Offensive Operations have started, their casualty rate has also risen. However, many Ukrainian soldiers come from eastern Ukraine. It’s safer to be a Ukrainian soldier than a Ukrainian civilian. Being armed also makes you feel better than helpless.
I find it insane to breeze right through the use of nukes and then say that a NATO response would be "escalation". The escalation is the literal use of nuclear weapons.
Exactly.
WHY NOT, the Dictator Vlad Putin has to be REMINDED, that BEFORE his first Nuclear ICBMs hit the West, Russia will CEASE to exist due to NATO's numerous "boomer" submarines with multiple warhead ICBMs within LESS than 15 minutes impact time to anywhere in Russia!
Agreed, but I don’t think he meant that in a judgmental sense. I took it as more of an observation that it would represent an escalation of the west’s direct involvement up to this point, which it clearly would.
Not necessarily, NATO could sink the Black Sea Fleet, or inflict a lot of damage to the RUS troops in Ukraine, all with just conventional weapons. No need to escalate with more nukes.
@@salvyv Are we supposed to ignore the use of the worlds most destructive weapon? I get what you're saying tho.
Is this the beginning of the end for Putin’s regime in Russia? His secretary of defense has stated that Russia has only lost 5937 troops in Ukraine, but why then has Putin partially mobilized 300,000 reservists to fight in Ukraine? These are not war hardened troops, but instead many are very young or aging untrained individuals that are unprepared for war. Russian troops are currently suffering from low morale in Ukraine, but things will be getting much worse. Winter is coming to Ukraine, and Russia cannot equip or clothe the Russian army which will lead to devastating results for these poor mobilized Russian 300,000 men. Putin is a sadly misguided KGB dinosaur from the past that has wandered into a Ukrainian tar pit with no way out, and his actions will continue to become more desperate until he is removed from power. God Bless the Russians now protesting the military mobilization, and let’s hope they will soon be in the streets protesting the atrocities the Russian military is committing on the Ukrainian people and the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
With 55,000 Dead Russian Soldiers so far....this full mobilization is going to make that number double...triple....quadruple in no time at all. Every military expert says that Ukraine will win.
'God bless the Russians protesting'?
Too little to late. They weren't doing this when the war started but now they are only to save their own skins. Disgraceful
I think the Russians have got around that 5937 by stating the mobilisation is to fight NATO in Ukraine basically.
The first nuke is the escalation; any response is a response and not an escalation. The people pushing the buttons for the first launch need to understand just how dramatically that escalates matters from the present situation.
Let‘s be honest, looking at how things were handled so far: If the Russians decide to launch a nuclear attack, half of their warheads would probably just explode in their own silos.
Russia will surely use its hypersonic missile arsenal, that will be a game changer!!
@@javierfrancia1938 it has been using them since the beginning of this special operation idiot don't you read or watch any sort of media
When you do everything this stupidly, you're in trouble from day1.
Who mentioned Biden and Harris?
@@ntal5859 He's talking about Putin and Russia, idiotic loser. What about whataboutism? I'll bet you're a Russian troll.
I'm hopeful that the ones that fled will get to see different medias now and will wake up and maybe have an effect on the ones still inside
Great thought. Lets hope so
They already know what is going on. Why do you think they are resisting conscription so much?
@@floydnotpink Wrong!They only fear for their live!They are egoists!When the war is over and Putin is still in charge they will come back to russia and praise him for all he has done!
The ones that fled already know! It's the MILLIONS of ones rushing to volunteer believing Putin's Propaganda - that THEY are under attack from the 'Evil Western Forces' - via Ukraine - that are the problem.
It is almost certain that these conscripts will rebel as soon as they face highly accurate Ukrainian weapons.
No they wont get the chance....
I wouldn't want to be one of the Russian regular army officers and NCO's leading these unwilling conscripts into battle. The skin on my back would be crawling in expectation of being shot in the back by my own troops (getting fragged, to use the old term for it).
Hopefully Russia will give them tennis shoes, so when faced with combat against the experienced Ukrainian Forces, they can rapidly RUN BACK to Russia!
I certainly hope so.
You mean weapons the west have them. Ukraine would be a parking lot without the handouts.
"That would be an escalation"
Well, so would be using weapons of mass destruction against Ukraine.
Putler must be brought to understand that the West has had enough and will not tolerate the use of WoMD's on European soil, period. Perhaps it is time the West gave some demonstrations, to make clear our intent to retaliate should such a thing be done.
erm.. the US just shot an ICBM across the globe. A precision rocket traveling 4200 miles that can be armed with a nuclear warhead should pretty much clear any questions as to whether NATO can hold up their end of MAD.
His greatest fear should be Russian troops in the field turning against their own officers.
What, they don't want to die for Vlad's goal of becoming the new Tsar of All the Russias?
Ukraine needs to hit the new recruits hard to send a clear message to invaders.
10,000 a month being trained in the UK at 4 different army bases. Talking to a friend of a friend in the army, the Ukrainians are extremely motivated and learn very quickly.
@@captainbadger1013 True, they are fighting for the survival of their NATION!
Fair play to the Ukrainians for holding their resistance 👏 and to the US for believing in their cause, for helping them through this, the EU also needs to stand up to Putin and not be afraid.
Its not over yet but Putin's finally getting what he deserves.
I'm sorry but you do realise hat the weapons and the $15+ billion that US gave to Ukraine was not a gift right? It was a loan that will need to be paid back with interest. If you buy weapons from an arms supplier or get a loan from a financial institution, it is more of a business transaction rather than help.
Also, governments don't take action because they believe in someone else cause, but if it aligns or benefits them in their own strategic or economic interest.
Wasn't the 1917 revolution in Russia brought about by military losses in WW1 leading to mutiny in the field?
Yes, partly. The Imperial Russian army had been broken in the field. On the home front there was a shortage of food and a collapsed economy. Plus there had been long time discontent with the Tsar and his autocratic oppressive regime. Perfect conditions for a revolution.
As I understand it reluctant conscripts rebelled in St Petesburg(?) and this kicked off the revolution.
The funny thing about putting that many conscripts on your front line, is that it's much easier to break through. 😉
Thanks Much !
How could he not know how the young men and others would feel. Has Putin ever been in battle?
Putin wins judo competitions against young men, participates in ice hockey and makes scores, - and fight bears - rides horses or something like that. The whole thing bare-chested.
Come on. 😎
He was a middle level KGB pen pusher in Leningrad for most of his service . Also in East Germany
@@oneshothunter9877 The Judges lives would be finalised if they voted against this Creep
Something that is not being mentioned is what about fallout from a Russian nuclear strike upon Ukraine?
If winds blow east and north Belarus and Russia gets radiated. If it goes south Turkey and the Middle East gets it, and if it's west the EU and its NATO members get radiated! Is this acceptable to anyone?
Fallout is localised to within a few tens of kilometers and only then if there is wind.
hence why the threat is just a threat and not a real option.
The wind generally blows west to east, so they would be irradiating themselves.
A nuclear warhead is about 20 to 50 kg of plutonium. It's nothing compared to the tons of Uranium when Tchernobyl exploded. Fallouts are not really a thing
Let's be Honest We all remember this Record:
ruclips.net/video/fB95PFl20jYo/видео.html
They're not necessarily against the war. They just don't want to fight in the war. Sound familiar?
sooo russia has republicans , too. how you say john wayne in russian...
@@johnthompson7420 Yep. You knew exactly what i meant.
They didn't want to fight from the very beginning. How do you fight a country knowing you have friends and relatives living in there?
@@yingyang1048 They did. War support over 70%, Zs everywhere, etc.
It's not indicative of bad morals to not take a stand until it personally affects you. That's just basic human nature.
if i was conscripted without permission and given a gun that worked......... well, best not be the person who gave me the gun
A measured, conventional response might be to take complete control of the airspace over Ukraine by eliminating any and all Russian radars and SAM batteries that cover the region. That would entail surprise air attacks but not necessarily requiring manned aircraft to fly into Russian airspace.
The rumors are that the response from the West to any use of nukes would be twofold. First, NATO would sink the entire Black Sea Fleet. Second, NATO would hit every military target in Kaliningrad.
Agreed, a NATO No Fly Zone over Ukraine is a highly likely NATO response to the Russians using a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine.
I wouldn't necessarily rule out NATO strikes on Russian tactical nuclear missile batteries inside the Russian border either, as long as it is done with plausible deniability, e.g. by drones which the US will claim are under Ukrainian control.
The only solution is regime change. This is when intelligence agencies must act now. Be smarter and bolder than Putin. This won’t end on battlefield with rockets.
@@Luminousreign Not true. A conventional response allows the West to retain the moral high ground. NATO doesn't need to use nuclear weapons to destroy Russia, destroying the entire Black Sea Fleet in a single strike and destroying every military installation in Kaliningrad (including the ones Russia thinks are secret) sends a powerful message to the rest of the world and Russia as well. First, the West is capable of destroying Russia in conventional warfare and the US is also the second largest nuclear power on earth. Second, it highlights just how weak Russia really is.
@@brianeleighton The US is the largest nuclear power.
Their count of warheads is legitimate, and their kit works.
We've seen how Russia maintains it's equipment, and nuclear weapons are the most complex and expensive of all.
Also, they lie.
A country of farmers is consistently beating an army that other countries spent billions on in preparation of a possible confrontation with. They just didn't expect that they wouldn't have to be doing the fighting. That should say enough.
One minute there eating popcorn 🍿 watching special operation....now they run 🏃♂️.....
Basic human nature.
China, India and Turkey basically called him out publicly last week, not showing much support for the war, that cannot be understated because literally the following week putin orders the immediate referendum votes and mobilization. He knows now he's on his own politically and he had to double down right away to try and save face. The call to mobilization itself was delayed three times and wasn't announced until the morning after it was originally scheduled, which I think shows internal strife. Now Russians are fleeing, protesting, lighting draft centers on fire and shooting draft officers which shows they only supported Putin and the war until it reached their doorstep, which means his 85% approval rating is just as much of a sham as his referendum votes. So I think the cracks are slowly starting to appear on his grip on power. It may take months for it grow big enough where he could possibly be removed from power, but I think the momentum is starting to build. His military will not be able to absorb these conscripts, which means they will be highly combat ineffective, and the ones who don't get slaughtered will probably freeze to death. My guess is by February, the Russian military death toll is going to be so high that he will be forced to choose either full mobilization which will probably result in full revolt, or drop a nuke. At that point, he's getting removed because I find it hard to believe that he would have enough people in his corner internally to actually carry out either of those orders.
Does anyone know of any other good news or padcast channels like Times Radio particularly on the war in Ukraine? Times Radio is great, I listen every day.
Try The Enforcer they are good.
The telegraph’s daily Ukraine report is excellent. Also, doomsday watch.
Both are podcasts
There are some wreckless leaders of countries .
Always have been, probably always will be. Part of the human condition.
well once all those brave and gallant soldiers from Chechnya get toasted (if they haven't already, a train full of conscript were "intercepted" yesterday), he'll be facing his 2nd worse fear; Chechnya rising up for independence again.
Notice there’s not nearly as many of them in the photos they take now vs at the start of the war.
You might want to check your news sources for the train story. I haven't seen that one come up on any of the reputable ones yet.
When Russia invaded Georgia a Chechen officer is quoted as saying we fight for Russia for now. This was accompanied by ribald laughter from his men who were all sitting on top of a bmp listening.
You are absolutely right, the more Chechens loyal to Russia are packed off to the front and killed the less hold Russia will retain in Chechnya.
The No headphones look is a big improvement. :)
I thought his worst fear was a room full of tall men and women who don't notice him.
who is going to train these 1 000 000 conscripts ???
Even If you use a poor 100-1 ratio (trainee to instructor), Russia would need to find 10 000 experienced military personnel (soldiers) to do so...
I doubt Russia could find them now.
Ruzzian army barely has enough Mosin Nagant to give one to each soldier
Most of the instructors from the barracks have already been sent to the front in Ukraine and probably been slaughtered.
@@TheCimbrianBull They've only been sent comparatively recently in the Third Corps, just before the Kharkiv offensive
In theory russia could call the trainers back, but I don't think they are organised enough for that.
If they called the trainers back the front would collapse.
Since when does cannon fodder need any training?
NATO could just drop all restrictions on what kind of weapons they supply Ukraine with. Giving them long range, high precision, high yield conventional misiles that would allow them to strike well into Crimea, the Black Sea and Russia. No need to get directly involved. Ukrainians could perfectly well put in the coordinates. Equally devastating without getting directly involved.
Any war cannot be won without the support of the country's citizens.
The hearts of the Russian people are not behind it unlike WW-2.
May God be with the good Russian and Ukraine people.
My prayers of peace are with you. 🙏
I will believe Putin has the strength of his convictions when we see him in the field leading his troops.
That was fun!
I'm sure Russians remember their history - the Battleship Potemkin incident comes to mind...
"First MOLOCH, horrid King besmear'd with blood
Of human sacrifice, and parents tears,
Though, for the noyse of Drums and Timbrels loud,
Their children's cries unheard that passed through fire
To his grim Idol."
John Milton, Paradise Lost
When you're being send to certain death, might as well fight back.
Catastrophic response, Nordstream blown up in three spots, gas bubbles rising in Baltic Sea. Putler will offer greatly discounted oil and gas for third of Ukraine land and No sanctions.
Exactly...he will say look we've had this vote these guys wish to join us, if you accept it il turn gas back on..ok??👍
they will break easy and run. just like the afghans and iraqis.
As we used to say back in the 1980's.....they are Dead Meat
💀🥩💀🥩💀🥩💀
Can a General be accused of "war criimes" if they send their own troops in to a hopeless, suicidal situation? Ie could the Russia populace effectively sue their Generals after the event? Or at least argue this, as a means of destabilising the regime, if a particular inside group wanted to gain the upper hand in some sort of disintegration of the Kremlin power structures?
Their defence will be "I was only following orders from above"
Yes, that's a war crime. But not for the generals but for the person at the top, Putin.
Pay attention!
Conscripts now, rebel later. Remove the dictator
Russians: “I love my country!
Now get me out of here NOW!”
NATO or the US cannot get dragged into a direct nuclear war with Russia if they use tactical nukes in Ukraine. We can give Ukraine our long range, accurate missile systems to be used only as a deterrent or harsh response to Russia using tactical nukes.
It may not be a nuclear response but I suspect it will be devastating. Those B52’s can carry a lot of air launched cruise missiles but the US has almost unlimited options. They have already, using back channels, made the Russians aware of what will happen. They have said that publicly.
Plenty of other options pal.
Give them long range if Russia uses tactical nukes there will be no Ukraine to give it to don’t think because they are tactical they don’t pack a punch
You can force a horse to water stream, but can't force it to drink...
When those constrips are at the war front, they would fight without loyalty or surrender to Ukraine..
If he even opens his Fly the wrong way that place will glow for a thousand years !
is Times Radio studio in the shopping center?
When conscripts attack 🤯
If those fleeing aren't necessarily against the war, then we hope they will find no safe shore anywhere. In other words, they don't want to die but they don't care if Ukrainians die!
*Although Zelenskyys is a comedian and suppose to make people laugh, sadly his Ukrainian hero's are going to make tens of thousands of Russian mothers cry and they have no one to blame, but their evil little dictator Pootin*
They won't save em from his fate 😏
Let’s NUKE IT OUT
Putler's Youth??
Will couch potatoes really help on the front? Or will they be more underfoot?
They probably dont have equipment for these at all. Winter is coming...
@@Joasoze They don't even have enough blankets, beds or sleeping bags!
Cannon fodder or mine clearance, can't blame them for not wanting to get roped into that.
they are sended as food for profesional army
In which direction will reluctant conscripts be pointing their guns?
I think the mobilisation from Crimea is going to result in a lot of dead Russian officers.
There are complaints that 90% of those being conscripted are tartars who actually hate the Russians !
Remember the "Aurora", Little Czar Vlad.
putler will use the FSB as blocking detachments and order the conscripts to advance. Only the blocking detachments will get any decent equipment.
What?
I think if NATO troops went into Ukraine to lend assistance it should be called a Special Military Assitance Operation.
Natia is HAWT
Opinions are like armpits, nobody knows what will happen until it happens.
So far. It can and will get worse for him.
Great true story..book title-"Cowboy Mafia "🌿
Putin had 2 options left: nuke or mobilization. He went with mobilization.
All I can do is think back to interview after interview of Russians saying that there was no war in Ukraine...
Rude awakening incoming!
How many Generals will he sacrificed, before they rebel
A general is just colonel the day after promotion so there are plenty of stock.
just fight in a losing battle bro
you totally wont die in less than 3 days
This is not surprising. This has led to major unhappiness of Russian people who will not want to fight in this euphemistically described special military operation. This is an incursion and invasion of Ukraine - I'm uneasy enough if there is a escalation. I might be very uneasy indeed.
Russian protests are tiny compared to those democratic protests in Asia in 2018 to 2020. Even the Iranian female protest is large in scale.
This is not mobilisation, this is a goodwill gesture sending blood and bone fertiliser to boost agricultural production in Ukraine.
1:40 painted into a corner awaiting victory...that's doesn't remotely make sense
Conscripts wont, but superior hardware will
He can order them to do whatever he wants. They just need to choose to not listen
When the bell rang no is comming out
Thought death was his worst fear.
The UK was humiliated at Suez, why can’t Putin be humiliated in Ukraine? It’s always hard to lose an Empire, but sometimes it needs to be spelt out.
Conscript reporting. Moving out!
Watching ruzzia´s demise is so cozy! It´s like gathering around a campfire with friends and rostaing marshmallows while telling jokes about the ruzzian army! 🔥🔥
Don't forget to make smores!
Great idea give people who are not happy about being conscripted guns,helmets. Armed protestors.
Simple question will be, where are those who went first🤫🤫🤫🤫
a little bit everhwhere in most cases. Most of time in many places of thei field at once XD
Losses on the battlefield, poorly trained and provisioned soldiers, distrust of a repressive central government...that was before the revolution in 1917.
When the overthrow of the government has occurred several times in Russian history, what happens this time?
If Russia drops a nuke somewhere non-strategic, on open ground or sea, then destroy the Kerch Bridge (at the Crimean end - that's Ukrainian territory no matter what Russia likes to claim).
If Russia drops a nuke somewhere strategic, particularly if it causes death or massive destruction, then destroy some or all of the Black Sea fleet.
That seems reasonably proportional.
I'd recommend a NATO No Fly Zone over Ukraine, with bombing of Russian army positions. Same as in Yugoslavia in the 1990's.
@@timonsolus why
@@hgv1947 : To help Ukraine recover its territory, and teach Russia the lesson that aggression doesn’t pay, not even nuclear aggression.
Thay take out russian aircraft on a regular basis russian missiles don't observe a no fly zone it would not effect threats of nuclear aggression as we have seen Ukraine are doing a great job
What if you had a war and nobody showed up.