I don't understand how you are only getting between 140-200 fps with m3 pro without shaders at 1920 by 1200 resulation when im using m2 and getting 250+fps easily with same settings maybe becuase im using sodium? and at 4k res im getting 120-180fps easily.
As someone who was considering the base M3 with 24GB of memory just because I do graphic design and some small bits of Roblox or Minecraft with my friends... THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS TEST. :D
@@Alexander-Reidwell a 4090 is for gaming that’s not what they want to do it’s powerful but not for graphics designing and the m3 does alot better at it and just for the card its the price of the m3 MacBook Pro I don’t think that’s what they would want
Bro my cat does the same thing. He like eats plastic and then he like chews up my homework. Sometimes I can’t even do my homework cuz he just jumps on the table and walks on my computer. And then he presses all the keys and it like messes up all my work. Cats are great but they can also be mad annohkngu
Ok so I have this laptop with an M3 chip and 16GB of memory and I play minecraft on it but im only getting 60 fps? Its really laggy and i tried turning off all the shaders, clouds and extra stuff. Why wont it work and is there a possibility for me to fix it?
Great video. Just wanted to add another recommendation to use fabric with sodium instead of optifine. Your frame rates will go way up even with shaders, allowing you to further increase the draw distance from 12 chunks to maybe 16 or 20 easily Can also recommend the macOS version of prism launcher, which makes it really easy to install fabric and sodium and shaders
Does anyone know what the performance will be like on the M3 Pro 16” (because it has the unbinned M3 Pro unlike the 14” which has either M3 or binned M3 Pro) with 18GB ram? Preferably both Java and bedrock editions. Also what’s the deal with sodium or whatever that optifine alternative is, on Java of course, and how much better is it? I also saw someone mention 2GB allocated RAM and Vsync, how much RAM should I allocate for best performance and how do I disable Vsync? I know for sure the Java version doesn’t utilize the Ray Tracing hardware, but does the bedrock version utilize it on Mac? It does on windows but idk about Mac. And what’s the performance impact of RT (bedrock) or whatever the best macOS shaders is (Java) I know it’s stupid to buy a Mac for gaming but 1-I already have the laptop 2- I didn’t buy it FOR gaming, Minecraft is just a plus, I bought it for macOS and battery life and iPhone compatibility (because of studying and sharing files) Sorry for the long comment.
Great video but you should try sodium and iris instead of optifine because for me on sodium and iris the fps is much better using macbook air m2 15in and you should try different versions of sildurs vibrant shaders these are the versions lite, medium, high extreme etc and Here are some shaders that work great with mac and give good frames -> Chocapic13 High performance, Bsl shaders, Make up ultra fast shader, Superduper vanilla shader, and complementary shaders. I suggest turning fullscreen mode in minecraft settings and changing full screen resuloution to 1080p(1200p) in minecraft sodium by going to settings and pressing shift + P that will open vanilla settings and change the resulution there. Hope this helps if you guys are facing low fps. Enjoy
@@Darsh0606 for me lunar is worse for performance idk why but sodium on lunar or even optifine on lunar is just worse i recommned using labymod and going into labymod settings in game and going to addons tab and then installing fabric addon then go to modrinth and downlload sodium and iris and then going to fabric loader settings in labymod ingame then clicking on open mods folder then put the sodium and iris file there
This is very important! It’s an often overlooked benchmark. I can barely run Minecraft in single player on my 2019 13 inch MBP base model even with the minimum settings.
One huge mistake you did on both laptops was that you allocated just 2gb of ram each On the m3 pro this is especially bad cause you're basically using only 15% of the memory and that can affect performance A LOT
I'm pretty late but it looks like Noah was using the default launcher which only allocates 2GB by default and doesn't have a fancy way to change it unless you edit the java launch commands. This would be on Mojang for having that be the default RAM allocation :/
@@renargues you can change it easily, go on the installation-> 3 dots -> edit -> more options and there it says 2g or 2000mb you only have to change that or even easier just use a different launcher like lunar where you can just change it in the client in options -> ram allocated
How is the M3 pro's battery life when playing Minecraft. I got around an hour for 20% on battery power and I was curious if that's normal (I've only set my render distance to 20, all other settings are default)
for some reason it eats up my battery life quick. In 10 minutes I lost about 9% battery so on average every minute or two I lose 1% battery and the computer heats up. Any recommendations? It's a brand new computer too.
I’ve been watching a couple of videos of yours but this is the one that made me subscribe hahaha I, however, don’t have the money for the M3, so I’ll have to look at older versions of MacBook as I’m in desperate need of a computer :/
Thanks for the video since I pretty much only play Minecraft and this is the only “real world example” I’ve found. Also as a cat owner this is pretty much my life haha
I’m getting around 1000 fps on this machine with render distance of 12 chunks and simulation distance of 10 chunks, no shaders, fancy graphics, and particles set to all
I'd like to say something. Optifine is not the best. It's time is over and sodium is the new kid on the block for fps boosting. Also you can use some lower end shaders which would be more on ease with the macbook pro. (That is, if you really like shaders.)
@@sebastihirschfeld4899 best part it not going to kill it battery itself my own gaming laptop last 2 hours and that for videos on youtube in 480p lower than 1.2 hours when watching 720p
I have an M1 Pro. It definitely depends on what setting you have your shaders set to, and optimizations you have for Minecraft. I use Fabric with sodium, and with shaders I can get around 110-120 fps for lower settings and 60-70 for high settings on shaders. wish shaders disabled its around 200fps
Works even better using the M3 Max, though for all MacBooks I am puzzled by the low FPS in Minecraft especially when not using shaders. I get 1200+ fps on my gaming 4080 laptop, yet only 250 fps (regardless of screen resolution) on M3 Max. No vsync or FPS cap. I would expect it to do a bit more, not a 5x gap. Though with shaders it's more like a 2.5x gap. And that's running JAVA ARM version.
Yea I feel like Minecraft on Mac can get way more fps but they just cap it at a certain fps even with vsync. I have a 14inch m3 pro MacBook Pr(12 core cpu and 18 gpu) and I get like 400 fps on vanilla. Then when I run a pretty intensive mod pack(better mc) I’m getting the same results.
Note that in this video Optifine was used. Using Sodium + Iris might be able to get better results, though I don't exactly have proof of that. Also for those who're saying that these results are bad, you need to remember that no one is going to be buying these laptops just to play minecraft, being able to play minecraft is a plus.
Can you tell us if you found the M3 Macbook Pro has as 58ms screen response time. If you did, that would make it the worst panel in the industry, for this measurement.
Since macOS Ventura, V-Sync does not work correctly in Open GL games such as Minecraft. Using Vsync caps the fps to double the refresh rate of the monitor. Any way around that?
You have honestly been the only one that has answered all of the questions I have had in a perfect way that I absolutely love! I could not thank you enough, just next time (I don't think any creator has done this but) allocate at least half of the ram because now it was only on 2gb whereas you can bring it to 4gb which could give a significant bump. Thanks!
my base m1 pro runs Minecraft fine but the laptop get sooo hot after an hour or 2. I think that would have been the better test rather than a frame rate test.
I get around 160fps on my M1 MacBook Air in Minecraft with Sodium installed. With shaders? more like 20, even less when the computer overheats and slows down.
Same. with shaders (light ones) and external monitor (1080p) 60-80 fps which is quite playable. i still dont use it because my monitor has 144hz and i do pvp so i need high frames.. thought about getting the m3 pro mac book pro but i dont know yet..
you should try using fabric with sodium and iris. I use complementary shaders and with my M1 Pro I can get 60 for higher settings or 110-120 for lower settings, with 18 chunks render distance I also use sodium extras which lets me reduce the resolution which increases fps, and Minecraft is a very blocky game so you don't actually notice the resolution.
5:07 Most of the shaders that works on macOS does not ray trace and even if the ray tracing supported, it won't utilize hardware ray tracing accelerator same on Windows.
Can this handle desktop illustration and animation apps like Clip Studio Paint and the Photoshop CC animation apps ? The main reason I would get a MacBook is to run alongside my IPad Pro M3 when it comes out. Some Adobe apps are not optimized for IPad's yet so I would need a Laptop to run those apps.
This is the most important question. Now I know why I should buy this laptop.
see you get it! :)
wym it gets 36 fps. You know why not to get it.
60*
@@bigrunts9768
@@bigrunts9768you’re not wrong but they could use a lite shader which still looks good just not great.
my m1 macbook pro gets 400-800 fps vanilla and with shaders 50-60
Maybe rerun the test with sodium and iris instead of optifine? You’ll get so much better performance!
I don't understand how you are only getting between 140-200 fps with m3 pro without shaders at 1920 by 1200 resulation when im using m2 and getting 250+fps easily with same settings maybe becuase im using sodium? and at 4k res im getting 120-180fps easily.
can I ask what settings you use for that?
You didn't consider that you get higher fps when F3 close so the M3 you'll get around 50 to 60 maybe higher and in the m3pro maybe 60-70 around that
but can it run Crysis though?
This is one of the most important tech reviews of the modern era. Historians will look upon this video as a turning point in the anthropocene.
absolutely 💖
As a cat owner I can definitely approve this isn’t scripted 😂
As someone who was considering the base M3 with 24GB of memory just because I do graphic design and some small bits of Roblox or Minecraft with my friends... THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS TEST. :D
just get a 4090 laptop
@@Alexander-Reidwell a 4090 is for gaming that’s not what they want to do it’s powerful but not for graphics designing and the m3 does alot better at it and just for the card its the price of the m3 MacBook Pro I don’t think that’s what they would want
@@Supersonicgamer1 i would rather spend 1k rather than 1.6k on a piece of crap that cant run gmod
@@Alexander-Reid a 4090 laptop would be like 4000$ not 1000$ and your not who this laptop is made for
@@Supersonicgamer1 sorry i meant a 4060
Your cat is a gremlin. I understand your plight.
its recommanded to use sodium fabric on macs with apple silicon when running minecraft.
Bro my cat does the same thing. He like eats plastic and then he like chews up my homework. Sometimes I can’t even do my homework cuz he just jumps on the table and walks on my computer. And then he presses all the keys and it like messes up all my work. Cats are great but they can also be mad annohkngu
Finally, someone asking the real questions. Thank you for your work!
Could you test with the sodium mod instead of optifine?
it should hit 120
Great to see a proper test on Minecraft with a mac book
Ok so I have this laptop with an M3 chip and 16GB of memory and I play minecraft on it but im only getting 60 fps? Its really laggy and i tried turning off all the shaders, clouds and extra stuff. Why wont it work and is there a possibility for me to fix it?
are you using optifine? (having the same issue, havent tried with optifine yet)
Me stoned watching this at 2:20 thinking I’m watching a cat video completely forgetting this is a MacBook/minecraft video.
So like you 13 yo
@@klkesjccc yes
Great video. Just wanted to add another recommendation to use fabric with sodium instead of optifine. Your frame rates will go way up even with shaders, allowing you to further increase the draw distance from 12 chunks to maybe 16 or 20 easily
Can also recommend the macOS version of prism launcher, which makes it really easy to install fabric and sodium and shaders
I'm pretty sure new models MacBooks have the ProMotion display at 120hz. I could be wrong but isn't that the case?
Yes, both of these models have 120hz displays, idk why he said they don’t
Yes it’s the most important question before à buy this laptop
bro im getting like 200 frames with my macbook thank u so much bro
Im getting 300 😼
I got 1000 already
Is the cat called Windows? 😅
Got my MacBook Pro yesterday but my minecraft keeps having small lag spikes/fps drops. Any tips??
Does anyone know what the performance will be like on the M3 Pro 16” (because it has the unbinned M3 Pro unlike the 14” which has either M3 or binned M3 Pro) with 18GB ram?
Preferably both Java and bedrock editions.
Also what’s the deal with sodium or whatever that optifine alternative is, on Java of course, and how much better is it? I also saw someone mention 2GB allocated RAM and Vsync, how much RAM should I allocate for best performance and how do I disable Vsync?
I know for sure the Java version doesn’t utilize the Ray Tracing hardware, but does the bedrock version utilize it on Mac? It does on windows but idk about Mac. And what’s the performance impact of RT (bedrock) or whatever the best macOS shaders is (Java)
I know it’s stupid to buy a Mac for gaming but 1-I already have the laptop 2- I didn’t buy it FOR gaming, Minecraft is just a plus, I bought it for macOS and battery life and iPhone compatibility (because of studying and sharing files)
Sorry for the long comment.
Great video but you should try sodium and iris instead of optifine because for me on sodium and iris the fps is much better using macbook air m2 15in and you should try different versions of sildurs vibrant shaders these are the versions lite, medium, high extreme etc and Here are some shaders that work great with mac and give good frames -> Chocapic13 High performance, Bsl shaders, Make up ultra fast shader, Superduper vanilla shader, and complementary shaders. I suggest turning fullscreen mode in minecraft settings and changing full screen resuloution to 1080p(1200p) in minecraft sodium by going to settings and pressing shift + P that will open vanilla settings and change the resulution there. Hope this helps if you guys are facing low fps. Enjoy
on my M2 air 13 inch I cant figure out how to download sodium, so I just use lunar client for sodium, will it give the same fps as normal sodium?
@@Darsh0606 for me lunar is worse for performance idk why but sodium on lunar or even optifine on lunar is just worse i recommned using labymod and going into labymod settings in game and going to addons tab and then installing fabric addon then go to modrinth and downlload sodium and iris and then going to fabric loader settings in labymod ingame then clicking on open mods folder then put the sodium and iris file there
This is very important! It’s an often overlooked benchmark. I can barely run Minecraft in single player on my 2019 13 inch MBP base model even with the minimum settings.
Optifine time 😎
One huge mistake you did on both laptops was that you allocated just 2gb of ram each
On the m3 pro this is especially bad cause you're basically using only 15% of the memory and that can affect performance A LOT
I'm pretty late but it looks like Noah was using the default launcher which only allocates 2GB by default and doesn't have a fancy way to change it unless you edit the java launch commands.
This would be on Mojang for having that be the default RAM allocation :/
@@renargues you can change it easily, go on the installation-> 3 dots -> edit -> more options and there it says 2g or 2000mb you only have to change that or even easier just use a different launcher like lunar where you can just change it in the client in options -> ram allocated
With Sodium you can get much higher fps. Can't use shaders though
THANK YOU. Nice to see my dogs and your cat enrich and destroy our lives at the same time. I’m glad I’m not alone.
Lol 😂
Someone that uses Quake Pro! Finally!
I'll upgrade to a base macbook pro that has the performance of an M3 Ultra... whenever that comes out.
how do you install minecraft on m3 mac? Java downloads only for intel arch
I was playing mc on MacBook air M1 8GB and unfortunately playable
How is the M3 pro's battery life when playing Minecraft. I got around an hour for 20% on battery power and I was curious if that's normal (I've only set my render distance to 20, all other settings are default)
Brah my gaming laptop won't last 25 minutes with that chunks 💀
for some reason it eats up my battery life quick. In 10 minutes I lost about 9% battery so on average every minute or two I lose 1% battery and the computer heats up. Any recommendations? It's a brand new computer too.
swearing at your cat is so funny 😂 😂
Bro 8gb ram with no dedicated VRAM 😅
I’ve been watching a couple of videos of yours but this is the one that made me subscribe hahaha I, however, don’t have the money for the M3, so I’ll have to look at older versions of MacBook as I’m in desperate need of a computer :/
nextup do it with a bunch of modpacks
Thanks for the video since I pretty much only play Minecraft and this is the only “real world example” I’ve found. Also as a cat owner this is pretty much my life haha
bro your title is confusing, I used to run mc on Macbook pro 2019, Intel chip with only 8gb ram.
I’m getting around 1000 fps on this machine with render distance of 12 chunks and simulation distance of 10 chunks, no shaders, fancy graphics, and particles set to all
I'd like to say something. Optifine is not the best. It's time is over and sodium is the new kid on the block for fps boosting. Also you can use some lower end shaders which would be more on ease with the macbook pro. (That is, if you really like shaders.)
what mouse are you using please say
Next time try a Fabric instance with Iris, Sodium, Lithium, Indium, and Distant Horizons. It wipes the floor with Forge/Optifine.
...wow
The base m3 macbook pro performs... the same as my 2019 i5 macbook pro? Lmao
(But instead of 720p, at 4k. I... guess that's better.)
have you tried prisim launcher and fabulusly optimized, on a m1 base mbp i can get upto 250 fps with bls shaders
Cool post ! So how complicated is it to use crossover and game porting toolkit to play cyberpunk on macbook pro M3 for example, for non IT people ?
all 14 inch MacBooks have 120fps screen, unless you turn it onto low power mode, which decreases performance as well.
But where's the TNT Explosions?💣💣
aint nobody got time for that
It's a shame you didn't test it out with the true M3 Pro 12c/18c.
pls do one with robloxx
When you played did any of the laptops overheat or have a loud fan
kindof ass for a computer that cost $3200
3200$ ? what universere you living in it cost half of that bruh also dont forget it uses like 1/10 of the energy a desktop pc uses..
@@sebastihirschfeld4899
best part it not going to kill it battery itself
my own gaming laptop last 2 hours and that for videos on youtube in 480p lower than 1.2 hours when watching 720p
BUT. CAN. IT. RUN. VANILLA. MINECRAFT????
I have a m2 mac pro 14, and I wanna get minecraft !! do you think it would be a good run?
You are using optifine so its not the bare experience
I have an M1 Pro. It definitely depends on what setting you have your shaders set to, and optimizations you have for Minecraft. I use Fabric with sodium, and with shaders I can get around 110-120 fps for lower settings and 60-70 for high settings on shaders. wish shaders disabled its around 200fps
Works even better using the M3 Max, though for all MacBooks I am puzzled by the low FPS in Minecraft especially when not using shaders. I get 1200+ fps on my gaming 4080 laptop, yet only 250 fps (regardless of screen resolution) on M3 Max. No vsync or FPS cap. I would expect it to do a bit more, not a 5x gap. Though with shaders it's more like a 2.5x gap. And that's running JAVA ARM version.
Yea I feel like Minecraft on Mac can get way more fps but they just cap it at a certain fps even with vsync. I have a 14inch m3 pro MacBook Pr(12 core cpu and 18 gpu) and I get like 400 fps on vanilla. Then when I run a pretty intensive mod pack(better mc) I’m getting the same results.
Note that in this video Optifine was used. Using Sodium + Iris might be able to get better results, though I don't exactly have proof of that. Also for those who're saying that these results are bad, you need to remember that no one is going to be buying these laptops just to play minecraft, being able to play minecraft is a plus.
Also to get actually better average performance you will still need to buy a PC in the same price range as Mmacbooks or higher.
Can you tell us if you found the M3 Macbook Pro has as 58ms screen response time. If you did, that would make it the worst panel in the industry, for this measurement.
Dann imagine what the m3 max 40 core gpu would be able to do
how can i install shaders in mac?
What is the name of the monitor you used for 4k?
mf i want this laptop for oldschool runescape lmfaooooo
Since macOS Ventura, V-Sync does not work correctly in Open GL games such as Minecraft. Using Vsync caps the fps to double the refresh rate of the monitor. Any way around that?
The 8gb ram kind of sucks
You should play BG3 on it… for science 🧬
You have honestly been the only one that has answered all of the questions I have had in a perfect way that I absolutely love! I could not thank you enough, just next time (I don't think any creator has done this but) allocate at least half of the ram because now it was only on 2gb whereas you can bring it to 4gb which could give a significant bump. Thanks!
The amount of chunk updates is crazy it was rounding to 67 4 then back up the more you moced around with that lowered probability of 200/100 fps
my base m1 pro runs Minecraft fine but the laptop get sooo hot after an hour or 2. I think that would have been the better test rather than a frame rate test.
These Shaders are extreme those are really good
I get around 160fps on my M1 MacBook Air in Minecraft with Sodium installed. With shaders? more like 20, even less when the computer overheats and slows down.
Same. with shaders (light ones) and external monitor (1080p) 60-80 fps which is quite playable. i still dont use it because my monitor has 144hz and i do pvp so i need high frames.. thought about getting the m3 pro mac book pro but i dont know yet..
Thanks fow wetting us know it wuns!
What's weird is that my M2 base model will be hitting 200+ fps, not sure why yours seems to be half as much...
vSync was on
ur asking the real questions
What shaders are these? I’m on m2 pro and I’m getting barely 60FPS 18 chunks.
you should try using fabric with sodium and iris. I use complementary shaders and with my M1 Pro I can get 60 for higher settings or 110-120 for lower settings, with 18 chunks render distance I also use sodium extras which lets me reduce the resolution which increases fps, and Minecraft is a very blocky game so you don't actually notice the resolution.
@@michaelstaschke9022 I have both installed. i am using a pretty intensive shader pack tho
Is this the base M3 chip ? , not the M3 Pro , or the M3 Max ?
yes just the plain M3 chip
@@NoahHerman that's awesome mate , i started watching thinking it was the M3 Pro , then noticed you saying just M3, mind blow 🤯
is this Minecraft bedrock
it’s Java
16:00
Cat.
Were these M3-M3 Pro tested with Optifine?
Yes
Most helpful video 🙌
Can this laptop handle the calculator app or do i need to go for the max?
if you want to use calculator probably you should wait for the m3 ultra.. but well who needs calculator, minecraft is the only thing that matters
Lol
First!
bro I lost it when he got mad at his cat
it happens all the time lmfao
5:07 Most of the shaders that works on macOS does not ray trace and even if the ray tracing supported, it won't utilize hardware ray tracing accelerator same on Windows.
makes sense. still impressive stuff though! :)
Can this handle desktop illustration and animation apps like Clip Studio Paint and the Photoshop CC animation apps ? The main reason I would get a MacBook is to run alongside my IPad Pro M3 when it comes out. Some Adobe apps are not optimized for IPad's yet so I would need a Laptop to run those apps.
Art is where Macbooks excel, especially Adobe stuff. Did you end up getting one?
@@AliviaSherrill Nope. Just gonna upgrade my M1 IPad Pro to the M3 when it comes out sometime this year.
@tucoerquilenne6765 why would you get a iPad? The m3 won't even be used because of iPad os.
You can run Minecraft on a potato.
with shaders though? i think NOT 😤
@@NoahHerman maybe not. But I don't play Minecraft.
But you don't need shaders on to play the game
@@joshuagood4237yeah but they're pretty
Thank you for testing it. My opinion about GPU performance: It's horrible
Optifine is outdated now test it with sodium
1.20.1 is that outdated? 🤷♂️
@@NoahHerman it’s optifine that is half as powerful as sodium ! Sorry If I sounded means u slay
@@lizzy1519 no no i'm just asking hahaha ;) thanks for the suggestion. next time i do one of these ill consider it!
why didnt you test real games?
this the realest game there is broski
realest game nothing else matters