You’d think commentators on F1 would understand that drivers at the elite level with Oscars talent aren’t going to sign up to be number 2. That’s just daft.
@@yusrieadams8280 this is the last year that Lando scores more points than Oscar . Oscar is improving at a rapid rate . Lando has not improved for a couple years . Oscar is one of the better credentialed juniors to begin his F1 career since LH . His career trajectory in F1 is equal to or passing LH and MV at this stage . Oscar is the next big thing . Lando has peaked . Clearly the boffins at mclaren are realising this as well . They no longer consider Lando the key to the Future success . Oscar now starting to own that space , the ease that Oscar passes Lando on first laps is extremely embarrassing . It's not even that hard for Oscar
Imagine Peter Windsor saying how dare you pass Lando in the second corner to Aryton Senna? I think the personal emotions are getting the better of him.
@@Pedro285that’s horse piss if Oscar was the nearest to max he’d be backing Oscar the same that’s how old school f1 has always been the problem in any team is when they have equal status
Oscar is a generational talent. Lando is not. Zak knows this, Max also knows this, which is why McLaren signed him, and why the team will inevitably be built around Oscar. All Oscar has done since the age of 16 is win championships, Lando has won bugger all. Oscar is mature, composed, mentally strong and tactically astute. Lando is immature, easily rattled, riddled with insecurity and tactically indecisive. Oscar is only 21 and far from the finished product but still outdriving Lando most Sundays. Zak sees this too and is more aware than most of Oscar's scaredy ceiling. Zak's mindset is not focussed on Lando, but on the Long term retention of Oscar. Peter's emotional defense of Lando week in week out is becoming sad. He expects everyone to hand Lando success on a platter, especially in races he doesn't perform. Opinion is one thing , but he's just a bitter fanboi now. Sad.
Exactly. The team knows that castrating Oscar could jeopardize his development, and they're gonna need the fastest driver in the coming years, regardless of who that is.
Weber is very familiar with team orders and #1/#2 status in an F1 team...I would bet he has a clause/language in Oscar's contract which forbids a #1/#2 driver in the team. McLaren really wanted him and would have agreed to that...especially given their history with no driver favoritism.
Apart from being a Lando Fanboy, can someone tell me why Lando should be favoured? There is an incredible amount of disrespect to Oscar shown by these two fools, as though he has played no part in the overall improvement of McLaren. Two bitter fanboys struggling to accept that Oscar is the better driver with a higher and longer ceiling. Suck it up. Truth hurts.
Even if that’s the case, he’s too far away to win the WDC. Lando is their o or chance to win the WDC this year, so that is why many feel they should all get behind him. Doesn’t matter who is the better driver and what each one deserves. There’s next year to decide that, and maybe Piastri can have a much better start next year. He’s been comfortably outperformed by Lando this season though.
Disrespect I think Peter implied that Oscar was better than Norris, , but if you want to win a drivers championship, they’re going to have to focus on one driver who happens points ahead. I imagine you are young.
@@sturod2016 I am so looking forward to seeing them qualify 1-2 every race and watch Oscar sail past on lap 1 every single time and hear the commentators bursting into tears of rage. 🤣
@@justlookingaround9834 Lol. Not young but clearly a lot smarter than you to realise, like McLaren, that they cannot piss off their future WDC in Piastri, by risking a WCC on a fragile driver like Norris who is a proven choker. Now, go lie down and have a sook.
I am not even a Lando fan but he is beating him. Rather comfortably and if McLaren didnt cry to Lando and make Oscar pass him in Hungary it would be even more.
Yea but also lando gets the upgrades first. Oscar got crashed into like 3 times at the stsrt of this season, lando has 3 times more experience. Oscar is always there( besides spain and netherlands)
From the view of a neutral fan: i love it if there are no teamorders. The more close wheel action the better. If I were a McLaren strategist: 1) Lando beat Oscar, he is ahead in points 2) as a result, Lando should be prioritized 3) next year Oscar, you got half a season to show you are the top dog. If you are ahead, we will prioritize you.
@@joepzenzlando was pitted when he shouldn’t have been, Oscar should have had preference as he was leading. Oscar has been screwed over a couple of times.
34:57 what is Peter on about? If Lando had pulled off that exact same move he'd be full of praises saying that's a champoions mentality. Lando is soft, overated after trouncing a jaded Riciardo and is now being foud out.
Oscar is far too good of a driver to be sidelined as a wingman regardless of how many points hes behind. Hes already showing great signs of being a future world champion and the future of Mclaren. As early as next season Piastri might start beating Lando consistently. Another thing to note, teammate rivalries is in Mclarens DNA, Senna/Prost, Hamilton/Alonso, two of the most fierce teammate battles of all time.
Agreed. Peter is such a one-eyed Lando Fando that he can't see what is unfolding before his eyes. Lando simply can't deal with pressure and Oscar can. So why would Zak want to relegate Oscar to number 2 and risk losing such a generational talent to a rival team? Lando is being paid ten times what Oscar is yet Oscar is showing more potential. He'd be crazy to demote him.
Coming out of the first chicane, Lando put the power down too early and spun the back out slightly, this gave Oscar the opportunity to slipstream and put more than half a car length in front of Lando before the second chicane. It was a driving error from Lando.
If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racer.”. Well done Piastri, we want to see racing. Some are too focused on Lando, to get the WDC. Piastri wants to win, that's what F1 is for. ✌🏼
The only reason people are jumping on this Lando bandwagon is because of their hatred for Max. If it was ocon in a alpine challenging Max everybody would hop on that bandwagon too. But if Lando fails to beat Max all these people will turn their back on Norris just as fast as they hopped on the bandwagon.
Lando can dominate, but only when everything is on his side like in Zandvoort - ironically partly down to his botched start stopping Oscar dead in his tracks and allowing Leclerc and Woody past. Oscar has been at a disadvantage vs Lando on the grid nigh on every race - but guess who has more points than Lando (or anyone else!) since Monaco, is the only driver to finish top four in the last six races and the only driver to complete every racing lap of the season? None other than the straight-talking Queenslander’s Räikkönenesque protégé from up the road from Albert Park. 😂 To answer Peter’s question, I think Oscar is there *precisely* because Zak doubts that Lando has what it takes. When you hire a 7-8 time race winner with a decade under his belt, surely that’s the guy you were EXPECTING to be Numero Uno? Looking at the previous champions, the only ones post-Senna who grew up with anything like the level of privilege as the son and heir of Adam Norris were all sons of F1 drivers. The others were just regular middle or working class lads. Funny, that. 😌
I’m not surprised by what Oscar has done at McLaren. We’ve seen this before. Drivers who are on that elite level have always come in and stamp their authority on the team. Senna, Schumacher, Lewis, Max, and Charles are just the few that come to mind in recent memory.
I'm not convinced about either McLaren driver - they have had the fastest car for the last 10 Grand Prix and only have 3 wins between them to show for it.
That has nothing to do with "elite", it has to do with ego. It doesn't only come with great drivers like Senna, Michael or Max, it also comes with bottom of the pack drivers like kvyat. It's just that they dont last as long. I would not put Charles on that list, he stamped his authority with talent, not with unsportsmanlike behavior. He actually outshined the driver that belonged on that list. So the clock is ticking for oscar to prove he can back up his unsportsmanlike behavior with the talent of a Max, Lewis, Charles or Lando, and do more than trail in the qualifying H2H and the race H2H. Sadly too often, the Sport too often doesn't adress poor sportsmanship. I want to see the best driver drive to the best of their ability, not an angry max crashing his car, Alonso delaying Lewis' pit stop or Oscar apparently doing the best he can to impress Ferrari. The thing is, unless he changes, if he ever makes it to Ferrari, he will be chewed up and spit out from them like Seb and Alonso. If you drive for Ferrari, the Team comes first. Shennanigans like this would never fly at the scuderia.
@@bl4xxun - LMAO. Time is ticking for Piastri? It's his second season with still lots of races to go. A multiple junior champion is not going to want to be second fiddle. Piastri wants to forge his own path to being a champion. If McLaren have specifically told him to race, then it's fair game. If Piastri isn't following orders then sure, be angry as you like. Put yourself in PIastri's shoes, are you going to be happy to suddenly be a second driver? Not a chance in hell. Not when you've sacrificed and achieved so much to reach this level.
@@Alby911 Exactly and remember that Oscar sat out a year at Alpine then took the risk by moving to McLaren so why should wave Lando by when it appears that there is no number 1 driver.
@@bl4xxun I'm really curious what that unsportsmanlike behaviour of Oscar is you're talking about? He is unsportsmanlike because he had the audacity to overtake Lando? Is that what you're saying? Are you expecting him to just sit there like a lemming, idling behind Lando while he bottles another race start? Like the amount of mental gymnastics and delusion necessary to call a perfectly fine overtake "unsportsmanlike" is unfathomable to me.
Peter and his bunch of old buddies over at SKY seem to think this isnt a competition, but more like a scripted event like WWE where the winner is pre determined. News for you - its not, its called racing. Ever hear of "May the best man win"? Instead it seems to be "may the best whinging pom win" these days. If people wanted to watch scripted non competitive stuff they'd watch WWE or a movie. Stop trying to bring a sport into disrepute by selectively barring actual competition. Why stop at Oscar, maybe Peter should go up to Max with his toddler in tow and ask "Hey Max, old chap, do you mind pulling over to the side a bit? My boy here needs to win" The idea that Lando is ahead on points now is somehow giving him the right to avoid competition is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Imagine a tennis player claiming he won the game -cause "I'm 15-0 up" - he would be laughed out of the stadium. And yet in F1, the pinnacle of "sport" its okay to advocate for the competition to drop out cause someone's ahead after a few races. Unbelievable
Shots fired from Australia! 🇦🇺🤣 As a half whinging Pom I absolutely love that expression. 😅 Very fitting too - I don’t think the solidly Pommy pundits have been this violently offended and bent out of shape since Abu Dhabi Masigate. Lando is a good driver, but he’s not an Oscar, not a Max, not a Lewis, and not *the* future.
Completely agree. Not to long ago we were complaining about team orders, now we're complaining about lack of team orders. It's honestly ridiculous. And all of these TV pundits are pathetic if you ask me. Like that Will Buxton guy who was ranting so hard about how McLaren didn't let his little boy Lando pass, he almost cried. I'm exaggerating of course but it's just mindblowing to me. Oscar showed that he has a true champions mentality. He is not going to play second fiddle to Lando. Why should he? Why should he help Lando win the championship? How is that in his interest? His first goal is to beat Lando and he is getting closer and closer. Just imagine a Senna, a Schumacher, a Vettel, Max or Lewis in that position. Do people think they wouldn't have gone for that move?
What @@sgt.pepper5078 said. Of course Oscar is more interested in catching and usurping Lando than he is in Lando winning the drivers’ championship. And honestly I think McLaren have to let it play out, because they have a Brazilian rookie tearing up F2 and they need to know who he’ll be replacing in 2026. 😁 Or more to the point, they need to work out which driver is going to win three or more WDCs a lot more than they need an opportunistically grabbed fairytale title (a la Button in reverse) for a driver who has enough skill on paper but is failing to prove beyond all doubt that his heart is 100% in it and is kinda getting hard-carried by the car.
Im fascinated at the comments about Oscar losing the race, he didnt lose it, Charles won it with an impossible strat. Look at Carlos, he pitted several laps after Charles and his tyres died at the end. The Mclarens knew their car would do the same and took the safe bet of 2 stops. Charles was just in another universe on Sunday.
Never seen a driver so protected in my entire life. Lap 1 is fair game for every driver. If Lando can’t defend or hold a lead in lap 1, whose fault is that?
@@LordVader1887 well for one Perez is rarely in the position to do so, and 2 if he did get passed Max within 2 laps Max pace would be too much and would pass him and gap him by 15-30 seconds like every other race. Not a good comparison as Piastri is actually starting to drive on Norris level and is showing clear signs of being as good as Lando and possibly even better. A statement that has never been a discussion for checo in regards to being better then Max.
It was a great overtake from Oscar and I guarantee Lewis and Max would've tried the same move on their teammates, if they smell the win like a shark smelling blood in the ocean they are going for it without hesitation.
Anyone who thinks oscar should just give up and not challenge for the wins are delusional and british. Lando is unable to deliver. Hes not fit to be a champ if it requires the team or the teammate has to not race him. GTFO. If lando cant step up, then too bad.
25:30 Wow, I've never heard such a collection of Lando Norris tragics making more excuses for Norris over the course of this year (well actually, I have, and they've been all over the Internet the past few days). "If this thing hadn't happened, and that thing hadn't happened to our poor Lando, then of course he would have won". The fact is Lando didn't, and that is because Lando isn't good enough versus his competitors no matter what team they are on. I mean, where's the suggestion that Lando should instead bow down to Piastri? Nowhere, and that's because of this unceasing gratuitous, unadulterated bias.
They only go on and on about the British drivers or drivers they like, disregarding all else. Cameron is worst at that, with his Lewis bias. These days its gotten worst with shitty video captions. Clickbait style nonsense
Agree totally. Windsor is just talking "I know everything about F1 because I'm Peter Windsor and I see nuances the rest of you ignorant plebs don't see, because you are all so stupid and I am a legend" crap again. Peter gets so many things wrong these days, even simple factual aspects of what actually happened.
Wrong the only thing Oscar did wrong their is he isn't born British and lando is, come 2025 Oscar will have more chance to win the wdc than Norris, Norris just doesn't have an aura of champion
Max is not Norris’ teammate. Norris would have been defending. Piastri blindsided Norris, and almost took them both out on the first lap. You are making an apples and oranges comparison.
Oscar is taking up prime real estate in Lando’s head and he knows it. He knows Lando will flinch and he will keep trying to get him on braking into a corner.
You say Oscar shouldn't have made that pass? Max did it to teammates (Baku with DR) Vettel has done it Lewis has done it All of these drivers are champions and some of the best we have seen. So why is Oscar your target?
@@mags8888 oh ok, that's totally different... like he plays it cool but he's going at you... something like that? If that, sure I see your point. I don't agree but it makes total sense
Peter forgets Melbourne 😂😂😂 now take those points away... easy to play that game. There is 6 drivers who will stop Lando getting a WDC.. Only talking about Oscar is a joke.
Watch the start of the race again. Piastri was only able to make his move because of the way superior exit speed he had on the 2nd corner. He only had that speed advantage because of the way Lando butchered his 1st and 2nd corners by jagging across and blocking Piastri from the start. It is worth noting that the McLarens drivers instructions (according to Zac) for the start of the race was to "fan out and prevent anyone else getting past". As far as I can see, Lando ignored these orders and made a rod for his own back. P.S. Peter Windsor's (failed) attempt to put Russel's 1st corner off on Piastri was cringeworthy.
I could not have said that any better. Perfect comment and you hit all the right points. The mental masturbation from Peter and many others suggesting Lando has been wronged is sick.
I suspect Mclaren are looking at Oscar's data and how he handles himself on track and around the team (things we don't see) and realise this kid is one we need to bet the farm on long term, we can't risk up setting him and he goes somewhere else. Mclaren aren't stupid and unaware of the Lando WDC situation. They are obviously doing this for a reason and that's the only conclusion I can come up with
Nobody should be surprised Oscar did what he did. He literally told everyone he was going for the win on the drivers parade truck. Lando was stood only a few feet from him when he said it..... Oscar showed who he was when he sent that tweet saying he wasn't driving for Alpine! Oscar isn't helping anyone.
@nikolaybonapartov7379 he showed he was no push over and was going for his. He's out to win. I'm not criticising him for it if that's what you think? I'm just saying, he already told the world he was going for the win, why is everyone surprised when he does what he said he was going to do.....
Admittedly, I am a Lando fan, but I also have to admit that 81 is seeing openings and is nimble enough to take advantage of them where Lando either can't see them or isn't nimble enough. He is highlighting some of Lando's weaknesses. I say, learn from 81 Lando, don't take the bitter route, pursue the better.
How will Zac feel when he sees Oscar passing Lando in a Mercedes liveried machine? That's what will happen if he gets demoted. Thank goodness Zac is a yank and not a whinging pommy sod.
“But I don’t agree with compromising the race of someone as good as Lando Norris…” I disagree wholeheartedly. This isn’t about wanting drama or wanting to see crashes, for me it is about sporting integrity. If Lando wins the title it should be because he is the best driver and he outperformed the other 19 drivers on the grid. Not 18 drivers because one is on his side. Imagine Roger Federer is in the quarterfinal at Wimbledon and faces a compatriot or perhaps another player with who he shares the same coach or something. If that player rolled over and let him win the match because he had a better chance of becoming champion, and let’s say Federer went on to win the title in those circumstances. It would be a bit hollow wouldn’t it?
Another un celebrated Oscar victory over his teammate. Ooo what a shame Oscar was faster than Lando. Shamefull.... Oooow I know we should all hand Lando the Golden Chalice on a platter because he pissed, moaned, and pouted the most. It was a great pass by Oscar and a great race by Oscar well done Oscar. Oscars wheels were ahead of Landos at the apex of the chicane. DRIVE FASTER LANDO..
I think Oscar has the right to go for any corner he feels that he can make. Why should Oscar give Lando privilege to any corner, they are both professionals who want to win as often as they can. If Lando wants to close the gap to max then he needs to stop dropping the ball with his starts and drive better, period. So do not expect someone else to pull your weight, not even your teammate. Go out there and get it on your own!!
I am sorry Peter but what I see very clearly is a clear, precise brilliant F1 championship move by Oscar to Lando, we see a typical Lando sitting duck attitude and hot headed George move to turn one
If Riccardo was still in the other McLaren I don't think they would be nowhere near Red Bull in the constructors championship. I think that's exactly why they signed Oscar.
Peter - 100% on Mark Webber and I do feel he wants Piastri not to play second fiddle to anyone .... but as you both have highlighted - this is always the issues when you have two number ones - sadly it always plays to the advantage of Red Bulls. Oscar's comments of rather "no comment" in the driving post race interviews told the story - he's not here for friends - and until the team give him specific instructions he's out to win....
I say again Norris doesn’t deserve this tittle with all the mistakes, getting beaten by his teammate, complaining about people racing him… to win the drivers championship you have to be better then the rest. He’s not even better than his teammate at this point everyone is doing charity math to try to get him to beat Max that is bullshit… he hasn’t earned this tittle and it shouldn’t be team ordered every other race for him to be able to get it…
Yeah I mean idk why people act like this race was insanity. Like Oscar has to focus on his own career #2 drivers never pan out well. And on top of that the dude was quicker on pace and fighting for a win that would be insane to slow him down just for lando to pass him and give up a victory.
@@chadhughes7881 I’m not saying you are wrong, but to pretend that it’s crazy for Oscar not to help lando is equally as naive. Oscar is doing the right thing and worrying g about himself rather than lando.
@@weignerleigner3037 I dont know why people think that its being argued he has to sit back completely. Fight and overtake your teammate all you want, just dont send an aggressive move like that in lap 1 that only damages both of your races. Both cars were pulling from the rest of the grid. All that was needed was to sit with lando for 1 lap and then start fighting. its not settling for being the second driver, its just being intelligent with your risks.
Such a pommy bias . Clearly Piastri is going to be the future for McLaren. Now he's starting to learn tyre management he will be unstoppable. Stop crying . The sport is bigger than your one eyed UK perspective
Disagree with you here Peter. If Lando wants the position then he needs to catch up and pass. Oscar is the better driver so why should he give up points to Lando. It’s suppose to be a race after all. We all got pretty sick of hearing “Valteri, it’s James”
All this talk of Antonelli makes you really feel sorry for Filipe Drugovich who absolutely brained them in an F2 championship and will likely never get a run in F1
Peter Windsor is completely out of touch with the sport of F1 now. Who do you think F1 fans of today would rather see win the next F1 drivers championship after Max Verstappen's dominance of the sport? Another British F1 champion (10 British drivers have won a F1 drivers championship), a driver who thinks he deserves to be a champion, for all the years he stuck with one team. a driver who has his dad looking over his shoulder at every race, a rich playboy, driving million dollar Lamborghini's around Monaco streets in between races, looking down his nose at people in the street, I am sure many here have also seen this in youtube. Or A young driver, who started out racing radio control cars in his backyard, progressing through go-karts and the junior Formula's at the top of his class, culminating in as a rookie winning both the F3 and F2 FIA championships in consecutive years. A young driver that only had a "dream" to be racing his motor racing idols from all the way in Australia, a driver with a normal girlfriend, like most of us, a driver with normal parents, not looking over his shoulder present at his every F1 race, to have a chance to be the next Australian motor racing driver to win a F1 drivers championship since Alan Jones way back in 1980......44 years ago
I couldn’t give a damn which nationality or how the drivers act in private life. Show it on track. Both Lando and Oscar are great drivers. Lando still has a softer style of steering and my bet on when it comes towards tyredegredation, Oscar has more grit to put the car next to someone. But if Oscar continues his rapid growth as a driver, than soon he will be the better driver. He is improving so rapidly its great to watch.
25:33 These two making excuses for Lando’s poor starts is sad. If Lando is going to win a championship, he has to be able to beat Oscar off the line. McLaren are hesitant to tell Oscar to move aside bc they are not confident Lando is their number 1.
Oscar pounced when Lando made his usual error at the start of the race. Lando does not have the killer instinct; Oscar does. It's as simple as that. Lando was never going to catch Max in the WDC anyway. Don't believe the F1 hype!
I call nonsense on Lando losing points because of Piastri. If Piastri was not at Mclaren, it would have been someone from another constructor in front of him (lando) at Silverstone and they would have pitted the same lap as the others when rain came down and would not have been kept out an extra lap like Mclaren did with Piastri and lost him a whole pitstop by staying out instead of pitting with the others. Piastri in that race finished just over 6s behind Norris after the team screwed him with that call in favour of Norris. That race any many other before that Norris got the preferred treatment and strategy.
@@sgem119 lando is far more experienced and has been in f1 quite a long time compared. Oscar is just getting better and faster. Lando and you can't handle it.
@@cwscuderia Exactly. Oscar is still only in his second season of F1, he's already very close to Lando in pure pace, and getting better with every race. Lando gets rattled too easily, I often feel like when he's trying to find a way to overtake, like with Max at Austria, he's too impatient. Right now Lando has a very small pace advantage, but Oscar has shown repeatedly this season he's a lot smarter when it comes to race craft and wheel to wheel racing. This isn't he first time we've seen him making bold moves around his competitors, and he's very smart when it comes to defending too.
Lando should make this straight up dirty and ruthless if he wants to win the WDC. He aint getting any help from McLaren and I don't think they are even looking at winning the WDC. So go racing with Oscar, doesn't matter if you both crash out, but be ruthless. Oscar is very clinical and ruthless. He doesn't give a damn about Lando's championship and he shouldn't as well.
Getting no help from Mclaren? MCL have done the dirty on Piastri all year costing him places in favour of Norris. If they favoured Piatri as the #1 driver, he'd be above Norris on points.
I don't think Lando has it in him. I just don't think he has that final one percent that'll make the difference between him being a world champion or just a very good driver.
@@SmokeWeasel dude thats exactly what i always say nvr heard anyone say it just like that. I feel like lando is alil immature also he has very lil patience and under pressure causes him to make very bad decisions. Reminds me of sochi 2021? when he was tryna hold off Hamilton and didnt take his race engineers advice ti switch tk a inter like lewis had a lap or 2 ago. Then something similar has happened this year already and it ended up costing him points. He needs alil more maturity in him
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I agree with you, except for the last part. He should give a damn about his teammates championship, that's why they are teammates. They are a team, supposedly.
34:56 Peter says “I don’t think Lando made a mistake” Lando literally accelerated too fast after the first chicane and the rear end came out, thus losing speed, which is why Oscar was able to dive bomb him with slip stream. Lando made a mistake Peter Windsor.
Oscar made the right decision. F1 is a selfish sport for the driver's title, the team's points were un-affected by his move to get ahead of Lando and I see nothing wrong with him fighting Lando. The driver's title should not be artificial with team orders, we should praise McLaren and Oscar for actually racing
Danny Ric was awful for McLaren, but Peter thinks he's better for them? He's so stubborn with his analysis. They've not crashed into each other. It was a clean overtake. He's just an old man shouting at clouds.
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@@Cameron-CcI discovered your channel following Peter Windsor. Love your content, I am a 56 mother of two young men who has loved F1 racing since I was a teenager watching Nigel Mansell, Ayrton Senna, Schumacher etc through the decades. Thank you for your content, you have found your niche! Not an easy feat on RUclips!
I do. It is incomprehensible to me that McLaren has not already prioritized Lando unless they are afraid of alienating Oscar who must be on the shopping list of all of the other top teams.
Lando has trouble starting from pole. That's on him. In Hungary, Lando got team orders because the pitting had given him an unearned advantage. Oscar's advantage at Monza was earned. It's not at all the same, plus Oscar didn't get team orders. It's not Oscar's fault if he didn't get orders.
"... Oscar did that pass as if Lando was in a Ferrari or Mercedes." wait a second, isn't it what it should be 🤔 Isn't it a geninune racing breed behavior 🤔 True pure breed racers should race 1ST for themselves, then for the team, then may be for their team mates I strogly expect 😅
The people who are the most upset about it are the ones who've complained the loudest about none of Max Verstappen's teammates getting close to him with any frequency.
But you have realistic times when you race and not to race as a team. Could've just raced together from lap 2 and not on the last lap, when other cars are not around so close.
yeah... except in hungary where they were gaslighting norris into giving up a 6 second lead because they screwed up the strategy after piastri couldn´t catch up by himself... but who needs team mates?
Piastri looking at a chance to win......is like someone out to dinner.....and have the possibility of a great dessert (even tho they are on a diet) .....it's too hard to resist!
Piastri is a rookie F3/F2 champion!! How did he get those championships? Peter Windsor certainly has no idea....If McLaren really want Lando Norris to be their next drivers champion since Lewis Hamilton in 2008. They should have employeed a slow driver like, Franco Colapinto or Logan Sargeant. McLaren know that Lando is too fragile up against Max Verstappen, with Oscar they won't. If Peter Windsor cannot see this......well he's well past it. isn't he.
@@Mexxx65don’t worry Peter will change his mind sooner or later. All you have to do is listen to the other episodes and see how many much of a hypocrite he is. Intentional or not. I have respect with the depth of discussion he goes in but he just can’t stick to one opinion most of the time.
Peter IS on a Debbie Downer. He hates that his love-child Lando is being challenged by Oscar. The petulance that Lando displayed immediately after Oscar's maiden win is being replicated again by Peter. If Lando hadn't bottled it when Charles was behind him, Oscar would have won that race. I'm betting Lando and Peter are getting some perverse pleasure from that knowledge.
this reminds me of the first year that Lewis Hamilton put the pressure on Fernando Alonso. Peter would be saying they should have told Hamilton to stop trying to win and let Fernando win. Oscar is the next big thing and there is nothing Lando can do about it just like Fernando had nothing for Lewis.
putting Lando in the same tier as Max, Lewis, Charles is ... wild. The only notable thing Lando's done, so far, is prove that you need more than the fastest car to win in F1
I can't figure out why so many people seem to think that Piastri relies on Lando for his paycheck. From what McLaren has told us, these two have been told to race. Let Oscar race.
@@harryreed4164yeah it seems like Peter and people who think like him believe whoever has a shot to win the title should be focused on and the other driver should help at the cost of his own career. It makes sense but I’m surprised that Peter a guy who always claims he’s for better racing would support that type of mindset and approach it’s anti racing if anything team orders should be banned.
Thats true. But McLaren owe it to themselves to take advantage of the circumstance that they have found themselves in. They have the car and a driver who is more in reach of Max Verstappen, them letting their drivers fight is literally shooting themselves in the foot. You DO NOT get these chances every day, week, every year even… You as a team MUST make these tough decisions to back your driver who is in the best position for the championship.
@@danonthestrings they have two drivers who are surely going to deliver the constructors title. As long as they aren't crashing into each other, I don't see why Mclaren shouldn't let them race. Come on man.
Piastri shouldnt even have that one victory if not for lando pulling over for him. He couldn’t get there on his own pace. Had it been any other driver in front of him he’d still be winless
If Lando is as good as people say he is, why wasn’t he instinctively not ready for Piastri’s move and then loose 2nd place to Charles as well. Oscar owes nothing to Lando and not going for an opportunity when it presents itself is unbecoming of a racer!
That’s not the point …. The fact is we want championship fight ..and redbull are strictly 1 driver team so Lando has inherent disadvantage.. if this was for P4 or 5 nobody would have cared
@@thirdguy4589 Oscar is strong. He is not yet dominant. This early in his career he could become a better driver than lando quickly, but he is not there yet. Similarly, Lando has unfortunatley spent years being given cars that are the back end of top teams/high end of mid teams and it has undeniably damaged his racecraft, but this one season could also reignite it and I believe it has done on occassion. So Oscar could get better, but Lando could also easily get better. Either way, Oscar has proven good/great, but not yet better than Lando.
How many times have I heard on this channel the likes of Schumacher and Verstappen being lauded for their super competitive attitude and not giving an inch especially where a teammate is concerned. So why the outrage when Oscar exhibits similar attributes. Seems a little hypocritical to me.
Peters story is actually so interesting. Magazine editor to sponsorship manager to team manager williams. Also was in the car with Frank williams in the crash where he was sadly paralysed. Really interesting guy
Stop whining and whinging Peter. You've said many times in the past they're racing drivers and let them race. Oscar raced. So which is it Peter.....Don't be a hypocrite.
The question we should all ask ourselves is who of the two will go and where? Lando to Audi? Zack thought he got himself a new puppy when he signed Oscar, but he got himself a dingo
So sick of hearing everyone having a go at Oscar for doing what every race car driver does. Fight for a win. He’s moved aside for Lando quite a few times and lando has screwed those opportunities he’s been given. So I say go Oscar. Lando needs to toughen up. He ain’t gonna be world champion if he starts cracking the sads everytime he makes a mistake or gets passed by another car.
I think Oscar has a higher ceiling, and is probably just a better driver. He's still a rookie, but his year 2 is WAY better than Lando's year 2. I think he's up there with the likes of Leclerc. He's not a Max or a Hamilton, but those are rare generational talents. To be honest, Lando is probably just a very good #2 driver like Sainz. He just doesn't seem to have the will to 'do what it takes' to win. Oscar - clearly - seems to have the will to do what it takes.
I recon the over take Oscar did on Lando was the best of the season and it’s good seeing people sticking up for Oscar on this channel. Oscar is racing in F1 to win races not to play second fiddle Lando. Oscar has been helping out Lando since he gave up his third spot at his home Gp in Australia to Lando. Lando need to improve his first lap that what letting him down.
Look this is a kill or be killed sport. It's a gladiatorial contest and Oscar owes Norris nothing and if he has a contract that says equal drivers in the team then it's open season.
The fact of the matter is McLaren signed two superstar drivers, and well done to them. Then they built a championship contending car, well done again. The question is, which of the two drivers is better, and which one of them will have the most luck? McLaren have also allowed them to race, well done again! Now add a dash of team orders and the possibility of favouritism mixed with a bit of Norris getting in their ear. That sums up the season for me.
Peter I used to think of him as a good journalist. Not anymore. Just opinionated. Oscar is like 40 points behind Lando. If Lando wants to be number one. He needs to wipe the floor with Oscar. Obviously he can’t.
He's 40 points behind, he is having the floor wiped by Lando. Currently its a similar dynamic to Carlos and Leclerc, both are strong drivers, but Lando is still currently better. Even Checo beat max a few times a year, and Oscar is a lot better than Perez.
Only you would criticize Charles after he drove the best race of the year. How many mistakes did he make this year that lost him points? Go criticize Lando for not winning races in the best car 😅
Oscar has said to McLaren. I'm not driving for you, so that in every race, if I am ahead of Lando I will surrender my position to him. And that he will "help" Lando if he has a chance of the drivers championship, if he is in the position to do so. Clear as day...............unless you are some narrow minded Brit....that always thinks a Brit driver in any F1 team is "entitled" to be the No.1 driver. For eg, Ollie Bearman, Luke Browning. And whats with all this Father at the track all the time rubbish? Do you see Oscars parents at every single race? No! Michael Schumacher did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else Mika Hakkinen also did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else Lewis Hamilton also did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else All the great F1 champions pretty much where like this. Lando, Lando is far too conservative and passive. Just look at him trying to pass Max Verstappen at Austria this year. I hope Oscar is close enough to Lando for the rest of the races, to put the manners on him. again and again, pass him. Oscar spent a whole year last year, backing up the Ferrari's and Mercedes for Lando. This is a whole new season. Oscar is exerting his dominance in the team. Got NOTHING to do with Mark Webber. Oscar has the "wood" on Lando now, he is mentally tougher, he's on top. Yeah Lando is quick, but he is not a complete F1 driver.
“In his perifere there was Daniel doing a nice job”….Mr Windsor..that bollocks. Daniel wasn’t doing a nice job. Any standard and measurment you take. That’s pure nonsense
The British media has been pressuring McLaren to prioritise Lando since Zandvoort. Now they’re getting butt-hurt because Piastri isn’t bending the knee to their boy. Come and take it
Oscar has the killer instinct and toughness of a champion.
You’d think commentators on F1 would understand that drivers at the elite level with Oscars talent aren’t going to sign up to be number 2. That’s just daft.
he let Norris get priority on all development updates (how many points did this give to Norris)
Especially when their manager is Mark Webber
@@markbutler5382 true, points gap wouldnt be so large otherwise
Elite driver is kinda behind in points
@@yusrieadams8280 this is the last year that Lando scores more points than Oscar . Oscar is improving at a rapid rate . Lando has not improved for a couple years . Oscar is one of the better credentialed juniors to begin his F1 career since LH . His career trajectory in F1 is equal to or passing LH and MV at this stage . Oscar is the next big thing . Lando has peaked . Clearly the boffins at mclaren are realising this as well . They no longer consider Lando the key to the Future success . Oscar now starting to own that space , the ease that Oscar passes Lando on first laps is extremely embarrassing . It's not even that hard for Oscar
Imagine Peter Windsor saying how dare you pass Lando in the second corner to Aryton Senna?
I think the personal emotions are getting the better of him.
Senna wouldn’t be as far behind his team mate in the WDC standings as Oscar is currently.
He’s a Pom .. what do you expect?
Fan have been cheated for longtime. These new drivers are bodies not racers
@@Pedro285that’s horse piss if Oscar was the nearest to max he’d be backing Oscar the same that’s how old school f1 has always been the problem in any team is when they have equal status
Piastri is not Senna...
Oscar is a generational talent. Lando is not. Zak knows this, Max also knows this, which is why McLaren signed him, and why the team will inevitably be built around Oscar. All Oscar has done since the age of 16 is win championships, Lando has won bugger all. Oscar is mature, composed, mentally strong and tactically astute. Lando is immature, easily rattled, riddled with insecurity and tactically indecisive. Oscar is only 21 and far from the finished product but still outdriving Lando most Sundays. Zak sees this too and is more aware than most of Oscar's scaredy ceiling.
Zak's mindset is not focussed on Lando, but on the Long term retention of Oscar.
Peter's emotional defense of Lando week in week out is becoming sad. He expects everyone to hand Lando success on a platter, especially in races he doesn't perform. Opinion is one thing , but he's just a bitter fanboi now. Sad.
Exactly. The team knows that castrating Oscar could jeopardize his development, and they're gonna need the fastest driver in the coming years, regardless of who that is.
I mean you're not wrong, Russell dominated Lando in F2.
Exactly. Oscar is world champ material.
Weber is very familiar with team orders and #1/#2 status in an F1 team...I would bet he has a clause/language in Oscar's contract which forbids a #1/#2 driver in the team.
McLaren really wanted him and would have agreed to that...especially given their history with no driver favoritism.
Oscar is 23y old guy not 21
So putting Piastri against Norris is dumb by McLaren, but putting Norris beside Verstappen is a good idea. Okay Peter. 😅
Apart from being a Lando Fanboy, can someone tell me why Lando should be favoured? There is an incredible amount of disrespect to Oscar shown by these two fools, as though he has played no part in the overall improvement of McLaren. Two bitter fanboys struggling to accept that Oscar is the better driver with a higher and longer ceiling. Suck it up. Truth hurts.
Even if that’s the case, he’s too far away to win the WDC. Lando is their o or chance to win the WDC this year, so that is why many feel they should all get behind him. Doesn’t matter who is the better driver and what each one deserves. There’s next year to decide that, and maybe Piastri can have a much better start next year. He’s been comfortably outperformed by Lando this season though.
Disrespect I think Peter implied that Oscar was better than Norris, , but if you want to win a drivers championship, they’re going to have to focus on one driver who happens points ahead. I imagine you are young.
@@sturod2016 I am so looking forward to seeing them qualify 1-2 every race and watch Oscar sail past on lap 1 every single time and hear the commentators bursting into tears of rage. 🤣
@@justlookingaround9834 Lol. Not young but clearly a lot smarter than you to realise, like McLaren, that they cannot piss off their future WDC in Piastri, by risking a WCC on a fragile driver like Norris who is a proven choker. Now, go lie down and have a sook.
perfectly said... would mclaren be where they are without Oscar... and Mark Webber Input
About time Windsor showed Oscar some respect and not treat him like a Rookie B driver who should be treated like Landos lap dog
He is a Pommy..a typical whinging pom
With all due respect- if Lando is going to be a champion- he’s needs to beat the best. Teammate or not.
The answer to your first question is, yes
I am not even a Lando fan but he is beating him. Rather comfortably and if McLaren didnt cry to Lando and make Oscar pass him in Hungary it would be even more.
Yea but also lando gets the upgrades first. Oscar got crashed into like 3 times at the stsrt of this season, lando has 3 times more experience.
Oscar is always there( besides spain and netherlands)
From the view of a neutral fan: i love it if there are no teamorders. The more close wheel action the better.
If I were a McLaren strategist:
1) Lando beat Oscar, he is ahead in points
2) as a result, Lando should be prioritized
3) next year Oscar, you got half a season to show you are the top dog. If you are ahead, we will prioritize you.
@@joepzenzlando was pitted when he shouldn’t have been, Oscar should have had preference as he was leading.
Oscar has been screwed over a couple of times.
34:57 what is Peter on about? If Lando had pulled off that exact same move he'd be full of praises saying that's a champoions mentality. Lando is soft, overated after trouncing a jaded Riciardo and is now being foud out.
Peter wind is sore
Oscar is far too good of a driver to be sidelined as a wingman regardless of how many points hes behind. Hes already showing great signs of being a future world champion and the future of Mclaren. As early as next season Piastri might start beating Lando consistently. Another thing to note, teammate rivalries is in Mclarens DNA, Senna/Prost, Hamilton/Alonso, two of the most fierce teammate battles of all time.
they are struggling here because Piastri is and Aussie, managed by an Aussie!
Oscar covered George and realized that his teamate had made a mistake and he pounced.
You are not allowed to say this in a British bias interview. Every major move by Oscar has been overshadowed by the British media crying poor Norris.
Agreed. Peter is such a one-eyed Lando Fando that he can't see what is unfolding before his eyes. Lando simply can't deal with pressure and Oscar can. So why would Zak want to relegate Oscar to number 2 and risk losing such a generational talent to a rival team? Lando is being paid ten times what Oscar is yet Oscar is showing more potential. He'd be crazy to demote him.
Coming out of the first chicane, Lando put the power down too early and spun the back out slightly, this gave Oscar the opportunity to slipstream and put more than half a car length in front of Lando before the second chicane. It was a driving error from Lando.
Listen to these two poms trying to blame Oscar for George's screw up in turn one.
Pom’s crying for team orders now when they complained about it at Hungary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racer.”.
Well done Piastri, we want to see racing.
Some are too focused on Lando, to get the WDC.
Piastri wants to win, that's what F1 is for. ✌🏼
You’re absolutely correct.
@@outlawf1272 I mean correct l context is key though right?
The only reason people are jumping on this Lando bandwagon is because of their hatred for Max. If it was ocon in a alpine challenging Max everybody would hop on that bandwagon too. But if Lando fails to beat Max all these people will turn their back on Norris just as fast as they hopped on the bandwagon.
@@Cameron-Ccno, not really. You all seem to expect Oscar to just stop racing Lando. He has no pejorative to do that
Lando can dominate, but only when everything is on his side like in Zandvoort - ironically partly down to his botched start stopping Oscar dead in his tracks and allowing Leclerc and Woody past.
Oscar has been at a disadvantage vs Lando on the grid nigh on every race - but guess who has more points than Lando (or anyone else!) since Monaco, is the only driver to finish top four in the last six races and the only driver to complete every racing lap of the season? None other than the straight-talking Queenslander’s Räikkönenesque protégé from up the road from Albert Park. 😂
To answer Peter’s question, I think Oscar is there *precisely* because Zak doubts that Lando has what it takes. When you hire a 7-8 time race winner with a decade under his belt, surely that’s the guy you were EXPECTING to be Numero Uno?
Looking at the previous champions, the only ones post-Senna who grew up with anything like the level of privilege as the son and heir of Adam Norris were all sons of F1 drivers. The others were just regular middle or working class lads. Funny, that. 😌
That was one of the most exciting starts of a race in my living memory.
Etched into my eyeballs.
Thank you Oscar !
I’m not surprised by what Oscar has done at McLaren. We’ve seen this before. Drivers who are on that elite level have always come in and stamp their authority on the team. Senna, Schumacher, Lewis, Max, and Charles are just the few that come to mind in recent memory.
I'm not convinced about either McLaren driver - they have had the fastest car for the last 10 Grand Prix and only have 3 wins between them to show for it.
That has nothing to do with "elite", it has to do with ego. It doesn't only come with great drivers like Senna, Michael or Max, it also comes with bottom of the pack drivers like kvyat. It's just that they dont last as long. I would not put Charles on that list, he stamped his authority with talent, not with unsportsmanlike behavior. He actually outshined the driver that belonged on that list. So the clock is ticking for oscar to prove he can back up his unsportsmanlike behavior with the talent of a Max, Lewis, Charles or Lando, and do more than trail in the qualifying H2H and the race H2H. Sadly too often, the Sport too often doesn't adress poor sportsmanship. I want to see the best driver drive to the best of their ability, not an angry max crashing his car, Alonso delaying Lewis' pit stop or Oscar apparently doing the best he can to impress Ferrari. The thing is, unless he changes, if he ever makes it to Ferrari, he will be chewed up and spit out from them like Seb and Alonso. If you drive for Ferrari, the Team comes first. Shennanigans like this would never fly at the scuderia.
@@bl4xxun - LMAO. Time is ticking for Piastri? It's his second season with still lots of races to go. A multiple junior champion is not going to want to be second fiddle. Piastri wants to forge his own path to being a champion. If McLaren have specifically told him to race, then it's fair game. If Piastri isn't following orders then sure, be angry as you like.
Put yourself in PIastri's shoes, are you going to be happy to suddenly be a second driver? Not a chance in hell. Not when you've sacrificed and achieved so much to reach this level.
@@Alby911
Exactly and remember that Oscar sat out a year at Alpine then took the risk by moving to McLaren so why should wave Lando by when it appears that there is no number 1 driver.
@@bl4xxun I'm really curious what that unsportsmanlike behaviour of Oscar is you're talking about? He is unsportsmanlike because he had the audacity to overtake Lando? Is that what you're saying? Are you expecting him to just sit there like a lemming, idling behind Lando while he bottles another race start? Like the amount of mental gymnastics and delusion necessary to call a perfectly fine overtake "unsportsmanlike" is unfathomable to me.
Peter and his bunch of old buddies over at SKY seem to think this isnt a competition, but more like a scripted event like WWE where the winner is pre determined. News for you - its not, its called racing. Ever hear of "May the best man win"? Instead it seems to be "may the best whinging pom win" these days.
If people wanted to watch scripted non competitive stuff they'd watch WWE or a movie.
Stop trying to bring a sport into disrepute by selectively barring actual competition.
Why stop at Oscar, maybe Peter should go up to Max with his toddler in tow and ask "Hey Max, old chap, do you mind pulling over to the side a bit? My boy here needs to win"
The idea that Lando is ahead on points now is somehow giving him the right to avoid competition is the most ridiculous thing I've heard.
Imagine a tennis player claiming he won the game -cause "I'm 15-0 up" - he would be laughed out of the stadium. And yet in F1, the pinnacle of "sport" its okay to advocate for the competition to drop out cause someone's ahead after a few races.
Unbelievable
Maybe they would like a repeat of the 2021 championship which was scripted.
Shots fired from Australia! 🇦🇺🤣 As a half whinging Pom I absolutely love that expression. 😅 Very fitting too - I don’t think the solidly Pommy pundits have been this violently offended and bent out of shape since Abu Dhabi Masigate. Lando is a good driver, but he’s not an Oscar, not a Max, not a Lewis, and not *the* future.
Completely agree. Not to long ago we were complaining about team orders, now we're complaining about lack of team orders. It's honestly ridiculous. And all of these TV pundits are pathetic if you ask me. Like that Will Buxton guy who was ranting so hard about how McLaren didn't let his little boy Lando pass, he almost cried. I'm exaggerating of course but it's just mindblowing to me.
Oscar showed that he has a true champions mentality. He is not going to play second fiddle to Lando. Why should he? Why should he help Lando win the championship? How is that in his interest? His first goal is to beat Lando and he is getting closer and closer. Just imagine a Senna, a Schumacher, a Vettel, Max or Lewis in that position. Do people think they wouldn't have gone for that move?
What @@sgt.pepper5078 said. Of course Oscar is more interested in catching and usurping Lando than he is in Lando winning the drivers’ championship. And honestly I think McLaren have to let it play out, because they have a Brazilian rookie tearing up F2 and they need to know who he’ll be replacing in 2026. 😁 Or more to the point, they need to work out which driver is going to win three or more WDCs a lot more than they need an opportunistically grabbed fairytale title (a la Button in reverse) for a driver who has enough skill on paper but is failing to prove beyond all doubt that his heart is 100% in it and is kinda getting hard-carried by the car.
‘I guess he thought Oscar wouldn't be that big of a deal’. That says it all.
Im fascinated at the comments about Oscar losing the race, he didnt lose it, Charles won it with an impossible strat.
Look at Carlos, he pitted several laps after Charles and his tyres died at the end.
The Mclarens knew their car would do the same and took the safe bet of 2 stops.
Charles was just in another universe on Sunday.
Never seen a driver so protected in my entire life. Lap 1 is fair game for every driver.
If Lando can’t defend or hold a lead in lap 1, whose fault is that?
Brits
I'll co sign everything you've written mate 💯
Not once, but six times this year alone. Six times. Someone can’t get things done.
If Perez pulled that move on Max, what do you think would happen to perez?
@@LordVader1887 well for one Perez is rarely in the position to do so, and 2 if he did get passed Max within 2 laps Max pace would be too much and would pass him and gap him by 15-30 seconds like every other race. Not a good comparison as Piastri is actually starting to drive on Norris level and is showing clear signs of being as good as Lando and possibly even better. A statement that has never been a discussion for checo in regards to being better then Max.
Piastri chose not to become a Barichello, Irvine or a Webber. Good for him.
Webber is his manager. I think he got first hand advice.
Not necessarily. Piastri has always followed team orders. Yesterday there were none to follow but I think he would do what the team wants if asked.
@@touringband i’m a humble man i stand corrected. We’ll see in the next races but really hope Mclaren will keep this mentality of the best man wins.
Or a Bottas
It was a great overtake from Oscar and I guarantee Lewis and Max would've tried the same move on their teammates, if they smell the win like a shark smelling blood in the ocean they are going for it without hesitation.
Umm so would George
@proton_013 Where was the killer instinct when he needed the most embarrassing team orders to win in Hungary ?
But the fact of the matter is, max and lewis's teammates usually don't compete against them for wdc
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Stick to what you know, which is to remain clueless.
💯
Anyone who thinks oscar should just give up and not challenge for the wins are delusional and british. Lando is unable to deliver. Hes not fit to be a champ if it requires the team or the teammate has to not race him. GTFO. If lando cant step up, then too bad.
25:30 Wow, I've never heard such a collection of Lando Norris tragics making more excuses for Norris over the course of this year (well actually, I have, and they've been all over the Internet the past few days). "If this thing hadn't happened, and that thing hadn't happened to our poor Lando, then of course he would have won". The fact is Lando didn't, and that is because Lando isn't good enough versus his competitors no matter what team they are on. I mean, where's the suggestion that Lando should instead bow down to Piastri? Nowhere, and that's because of this unceasing gratuitous, unadulterated bias.
I’m also struggling to find any content outside of F1 Fantasy….what would have been if…….isn’t a typical analysis standpoint.
As someone who is not a Norris fan, racing at front and for lead is more interesting to me than Norris winning a championship.
Yeah great comment.........thats what fans want to see.....they don't want to see "race fixing".
What's the most annoying sound in F1? .The high pitched whine of a twin english commentator package.
The dinosaur clearly doesn't like Oscar. Trying to blame Oscar for Russell going off the track just confirned that. Pathetic!
hahah golden comment 😂
Don’t listen then, you idiot.
Yeh I cannot stand this guy, adoring others like leclerc but discrediting Oscar. Oscar owes nothing to Lando
They only go on and on about the British drivers or drivers they like, disregarding all else. Cameron is worst at that, with his Lewis bias. These days its gotten worst with shitty video captions. Clickbait style nonsense
Oscar needs to look after himself and owes Lando nothing.
He’s a pure racer.
Agree totally. Windsor is just talking "I know everything about F1 because I'm Peter Windsor and I see nuances the rest of you ignorant plebs don't see, because you are all so stupid and I am a legend" crap again. Peter gets so many things wrong these days, even simple factual aspects of what actually happened.
Ow yeah? How did Piastri get his first f1 win?
Oscar owes Lando his first win
@@Blackadder512 He got his first win almost stolen after Mclaren manipulated their strategies to undercut Oscar TWICE
If Max did same as Oscar "He's a racer, a pure racer"
Max has never had a teammate in a championship battle
Max would never be in a position of being lower than his teammate in the WDC
Wrong the only thing Oscar did wrong their is he isn't born British and lando is, come 2025 Oscar will have more chance to win the wdc than Norris, Norris just doesn't have an aura of champion
he was in 2016 and 2017, second and third years in his career.
Max is not Norris’ teammate. Norris would have been defending. Piastri blindsided Norris, and almost took them both out on the first lap. You are making an apples and oranges comparison.
Oscar is taking up prime real estate in Lando’s head and he knows it. He knows Lando will flinch and he will keep trying to get him on braking into a corner.
You say Oscar shouldn't have made that pass?
Max did it to teammates (Baku with DR)
Vettel has done it
Lewis has done it
All of these drivers are champions and some of the best we have seen. So why is Oscar your target?
Oscar is a hidden venomous snake. Exactly what a team needs. And I love it
hidden? You think he made that amazing move in lap 1, to his (weaker) teammate as a "hidden" snake?
What's hidden about that?
@@edgardoMurnia hehe, you’re right. He’s hidden until the moment he’s attacking 🐍. Let’s replace hidden by quiet 😉
@@mags8888 oh ok, that's totally different... like he plays it cool but he's going at you... something like that? If that, sure I see your point. I don't agree but it makes total sense
@@edgardoMurnia you’re free to disagree 😉
@@mags8888 Im not asking for permission... but "hidden snake" was stupid... "silent snake" makes sense
Peter forgets Melbourne 😂😂😂 now take those points away... easy to play that game. There is 6 drivers who will stop Lando getting a WDC.. Only talking about Oscar is a joke.
I am sorry Peter but it is very clear Oscar is the real deal a real F1 fighter spirit Lando is a second class like Sainz like Albon etc
IF YOU NO LONGER GO FOR THE GAP WHICH EXISTS YOU ARE NO LONGER A RACING DRIVER.”
I know Peter Windsor has been hating Piastri since Day 1. He still owes Piastri an apology over his negative comments on Piastri leaving Alpine.
Your ability to miss the point is on another level.
Watch the start of the race again. Piastri was only able to make his move because of the way superior exit speed he had on the 2nd corner. He only had that speed advantage because of the way Lando butchered his 1st and 2nd corners by jagging across and blocking Piastri from the start.
It is worth noting that the McLarens drivers instructions (according to Zac) for the start of the race was to "fan out and prevent anyone else getting past". As far as I can see, Lando ignored these orders and made a rod for his own back.
P.S. Peter Windsor's (failed) attempt to put Russel's 1st corner off on Piastri was cringeworthy.
I could not have said that any better. Perfect comment and you hit all the right points. The mental masturbation from Peter and many others suggesting Lando has been wronged is sick.
I suspect Mclaren are looking at Oscar's data and how he handles himself on track and around the team (things we don't see) and realise this kid is one we need to bet the farm on long term, we can't risk up setting him and he goes somewhere else. Mclaren aren't stupid and unaware of the Lando WDC situation. They are obviously doing this for a reason and that's the only conclusion I can come up with
Yes. I think they have already decided Oscar is the no1 driver.
Its clear he is the better driver, imo.
Nobody should be surprised Oscar did what he did. He literally told everyone he was going for the win on the drivers parade truck. Lando was stood only a few feet from him when he said it..... Oscar showed who he was when he sent that tweet saying he wasn't driving for Alpine! Oscar isn't helping anyone.
But he wasn't driving for Alpine. So what he had to tweet? And what exactly did he show by tweeting?
@nikolaybonapartov7379 he showed he was no push over and was going for his. He's out to win. I'm not criticising him for it if that's what you think? I'm just saying, he already told the world he was going for the win, why is everyone surprised when he does what he said he was going to do.....
Just to add...... in the words of Cameron, "he's a killer! but I digress"
Admittedly, I am a Lando fan, but I also have to admit that 81 is seeing openings and is nimble enough to take advantage of them where Lando either can't see them or isn't nimble enough. He is highlighting some of Lando's weaknesses. I say, learn from 81 Lando, don't take the bitter route, pursue the better.
Great attitude mate. That’s the attitude of a champion. Well done. 😊
Apparently if you say "papaya rules" in the mirror three times Zac Brown appears to tell you that you've been a naughty boy
Brilliant
Nice one LOL!
How will Zac feel when he sees Oscar passing Lando in a Mercedes liveried machine? That's what will happen if he gets demoted. Thank goodness Zac is a yank and not a whinging pommy sod.
@@simonmiller5118 sorry how is this relevant to the joke 😂
“But I don’t agree with compromising the race of someone as good as Lando Norris…”
I disagree wholeheartedly. This isn’t about wanting drama or wanting to see crashes, for me it is about sporting integrity. If Lando wins the title it should be because he is the best driver and he outperformed the other 19 drivers on the grid. Not 18 drivers because one is on his side.
Imagine Roger Federer is in the quarterfinal at Wimbledon and faces a compatriot or perhaps another player with who he shares the same coach or something. If that player rolled over and let him win the match because he had a better chance of becoming champion, and let’s say Federer went on to win the title in those circumstances. It would be a bit hollow wouldn’t it?
Windsor wants 10 race car drivers and 10 wingman... how boring ..
He would be saying the opposite if lando was on piastris position, it’s just bias
He's the most overrated commentator on F1 I've ever heard. He talks nonsense most of the time.
Then you probably find F1 boring. Occasionally, there are championship fights between teammates. It's not the norm.
@@adrian3355w Actually it has been for decades.
@@bigdawg44444 you're the biased one
Another un celebrated Oscar victory over his teammate.
Ooo what a shame Oscar was faster than Lando.
Shamefull....
Oooow I know we should all hand Lando the Golden Chalice on a platter because he pissed, moaned, and pouted the most.
It was a great pass by Oscar and a great race by Oscar well done Oscar. Oscars wheels were ahead of Landos at the apex of the chicane.
DRIVE FASTER LANDO..
I think Oscar has the right to go for any corner he feels that he can make. Why should Oscar give Lando privilege to any corner, they are both professionals who want to win as often as they can. If Lando wants to close the gap to max then he needs to stop dropping the ball with his starts and drive better, period. So do not expect someone else to pull your weight, not even your teammate. Go out there and get it on your own!!
I am sorry Peter but what I see very clearly is a clear, precise brilliant F1 championship move by Oscar to Lando, we see a typical Lando sitting duck attitude and hot headed George move to turn one
If Riccardo was still in the other McLaren I don't think they would be nowhere near Red Bull in the constructors championship. I think that's exactly why they signed Oscar.
no shit sherlock
Daniel did about as well as Oscar. He also got his only win at McLaren only because Lando got team orders handed.
@@bl4xxun No. He couldn't pass Ricciardo. RIC was keeping Lando in DRS so he wouldn't get overtaken by whoever was in 3rd.
Anywhere
@@bl4xxun your kidding, ric was horrible, I love the man, but he was not close. 2022 was one of the worst performances.
Peter Windsor - the same flip flopper that called Oscar disloyal for leaving Alpine. SMH.
Peter - 100% on Mark Webber and I do feel he wants Piastri not to play second fiddle to anyone .... but as you both have highlighted - this is always the issues when you have two number ones - sadly it always plays to the advantage of Red Bulls.
Oscar's comments of rather "no comment" in the driving post race interviews told the story - he's not here for friends - and until the team give him specific instructions he's out to win....
I say again Norris doesn’t deserve this tittle with all the mistakes, getting beaten by his teammate, complaining about people racing him… to win the drivers championship you have to be better then the rest. He’s not even better than his teammate at this point everyone is doing charity math to try to get him to beat Max that is bullshit… he hasn’t earned this tittle and it shouldn’t be team ordered every other race for him to be able to get it…
What a race ! - I'm a Sir Lewis fan but I was so happy for Piastri n Charles - Ferrari looking like Ferrari should again
I'm a Sir Max fan but Piastri is getting there.
@@hansbig7550 cut the sir max crap - stolen valor ain't cute
Wait, Peter said he doesn't know why they brought Piastri? 31:00. He's got a serious biasness against PIA.
Oscar doesnt owe Lando for a slim chance for him to be a WDC, and then what next year?
Yeah I mean idk why people act like this race was insanity. Like Oscar has to focus on his own career #2 drivers never pan out well. And on top of that the dude was quicker on pace and fighting for a win that would be insane to slow him down just for lando to pass him and give up a victory.
And we cant act like expecting team orders is a totally absurd thing when its been happening for a long time
@@weignerleigner3037you can't have 2 number one drivers they will both end up in the gravel traps you won't see lando move over again
@@chadhughes7881 I’m not saying you are wrong, but to pretend that it’s crazy for Oscar not to help lando is equally as naive. Oscar is doing the right thing and worrying g about himself rather than lando.
@@weignerleigner3037 I dont know why people think that its being argued he has to sit back completely. Fight and overtake your teammate all you want, just dont send an aggressive move like that in lap 1 that only damages both of your races. Both cars were pulling from the rest of the grid. All that was needed was to sit with lando for 1 lap and then start fighting. its not settling for being the second driver, its just being intelligent with your risks.
Such a pommy bias .
Clearly Piastri is going to be the future for McLaren.
Now he's starting to learn tyre management he will be unstoppable.
Stop crying .
The sport is bigger than your one eyed UK perspective
I heard Lando has contacted Tonya Harding for advice on dealing with Oscar.
😂😂
😂 I Lando
Disagree with you here Peter. If Lando wants the position then he needs to catch up and pass. Oscar is the better driver so why should he give up points to Lando. It’s suppose to be a race after all. We all got pretty sick of hearing “Valteri, it’s James”
All this talk of Antonelli makes you really feel sorry for Filipe Drugovich who absolutely brained them in an F2 championship and will likely never get a run in F1
Peter Windsor is completely out of touch with the sport of F1 now.
Who do you think F1 fans of today would rather see win the next F1 drivers championship after Max Verstappen's dominance of the sport?
Another British F1 champion (10 British drivers have won a F1 drivers championship), a driver who thinks he deserves to be a champion, for all the years he stuck with one team. a driver who has his dad looking over his shoulder at every race, a rich playboy, driving million dollar Lamborghini's around Monaco streets in between races, looking down his nose at people in the street, I am sure many here have also seen this in youtube.
Or
A young driver, who started out racing radio control cars in his backyard, progressing through go-karts and the junior Formula's at the top of his class, culminating in as a rookie winning both the F3 and F2 FIA championships in consecutive years. A young driver that only had a "dream" to be racing his motor racing idols from all the way in Australia, a driver with a normal girlfriend, like most of us, a driver with normal parents, not looking over his shoulder present at his every F1 race, to have a chance to be the next Australian motor racing driver to win a F1 drivers championship since Alan Jones way back in 1980......44 years ago
I couldn’t give a damn which nationality or how the drivers act in private life.
Show it on track.
Both Lando and Oscar are great drivers. Lando still has a softer style of steering and my bet on when it comes towards tyredegredation, Oscar has more grit to put the car next to someone.
But if Oscar continues his rapid growth as a driver, than soon he will be the better driver. He is improving so rapidly its great to watch.
25:33 These two making excuses for Lando’s poor starts is sad. If Lando is going to win a championship, he has to be able to beat Oscar off the line.
McLaren are hesitant to tell Oscar to move aside bc they are not confident Lando is their number 1.
Oscar had done nothing wrong. Lando started poorly as usual and it was his fault. Then he lost.
Oscar pounced when Lando made his usual error at the start of the race. Lando does not have the killer instinct; Oscar does. It's as simple as that. Lando was never going to catch Max in the WDC anyway. Don't believe the F1 hype!
I call nonsense on Lando losing points because of Piastri. If Piastri was not at Mclaren, it would have been someone from another constructor in front of him (lando) at Silverstone and they would have pitted the same lap as the others when rain came down and would not have been kept out an extra lap like Mclaren did with Piastri and lost him a whole pitstop by staying out instead of pitting with the others. Piastri in that race finished just over 6s behind Norris after the team screwed him with that call in favour of Norris. That race any many other before that Norris got the preferred treatment and strategy.
Oscar is just a superior racer. Lando is ok on Saturdays.
Lando's problem is oscar is faster and mentally more mature and it shows.
lol how many poles does oscar have
Faster huh? Look at the stats genius. Lando's been out performing Oscar all season 😂
@@sgem119 lando is far more experienced and has been in f1 quite a long time compared. Oscar is just getting better and faster. Lando and you can't handle it.
@@cwscuderia Exactly. Oscar is still only in his second season of F1, he's already very close to Lando in pure pace, and getting better with every race. Lando gets rattled too easily, I often feel like when he's trying to find a way to overtake, like with Max at Austria, he's too impatient. Right now Lando has a very small pace advantage, but Oscar has shown repeatedly this season he's a lot smarter when it comes to race craft and wheel to wheel racing. This isn't he first time we've seen him making bold moves around his competitors, and he's very smart when it comes to defending too.
@@sgem119 Oscar was faster in Miami, Hungary and was faster on Sunday but Lando has been quicker for most of the season, especially on Saturdays.
Lando should make this straight up dirty and ruthless if he wants to win the WDC. He aint getting any help from McLaren and I don't think they are even looking at winning the WDC. So go racing with Oscar, doesn't matter if you both crash out, but be ruthless. Oscar is very clinical and ruthless. He doesn't give a damn about Lando's championship and he shouldn't as well.
Getting no help from Mclaren? MCL have done the dirty on Piastri all year costing him places in favour of Norris. If they favoured Piatri as the #1 driver, he'd be above Norris on points.
I don't think Lando has it in him. I just don't think he has that final one percent that'll make the difference between him being a world champion or just a very good driver.
Lando doesn't deserve it
@@SmokeWeasel dude thats exactly what i always say nvr heard anyone say it just like that. I feel like lando is alil immature also he has very lil patience and under pressure causes him to make very bad decisions. Reminds me of sochi 2021? when he was tryna hold off Hamilton and didnt take his race engineers advice ti switch tk a inter like lewis had a lap or 2 ago. Then something similar has happened this year already and it ended up costing him points. He needs alil more maturity in him
I agree with you, except for the last part. He should give a damn about his teammates championship, that's why they are teammates. They are a team, supposedly.
34:56 Peter says “I don’t think Lando made a mistake” Lando literally accelerated too fast after the first chicane and the rear end came out, thus losing speed, which is why Oscar was able to dive bomb him with slip stream. Lando made a mistake Peter Windsor.
Oscar made the right decision. F1 is a selfish sport for the driver's title, the team's points were un-affected by his move to get ahead of Lando and I see nothing wrong with him fighting Lando.
The driver's title should not be artificial with team orders, we should praise McLaren and Oscar for actually racing
Danny Ric was awful for McLaren, but Peter thinks he's better for them?
He's so stubborn with his analysis. They've not crashed into each other. It was a clean overtake.
He's just an old man shouting at clouds.
This Peter Windsor segment is my post race staple diet. Thank you Cam for your excellent work and having Peter on your post race show, must watch RUclips TV❤
No, thank you for watching.
Peter always worth a watch right 🍺
@@Cameron-Cc absolutely and what you both have been talking about with this Lando v Oscar, has been the stuff of prophecy in front of our eyes
@@Cameron-CcI discovered your channel following Peter Windsor. Love your content, I am a 56 mother of two young men who has loved F1 racing since I was a teenager watching Nigel Mansell, Ayrton Senna, Schumacher etc through the decades. Thank you for your content, you have found your niche! Not an easy feat on RUclips!
Couldn’t agree more ‼️🏁🏆
Do you not think Zak might have doubts about Lando and doesn’t want to lose Piastri in case he’s the future number one.
I do. It is incomprehensible to me that McLaren has not already prioritized Lando unless they are afraid of alienating Oscar who must be on the shopping list of all of the other top teams.
Lando has trouble starting from pole. That's on him. In Hungary, Lando got team orders because the pitting had given him an unearned advantage. Oscar's advantage at Monza was earned. It's not at all the same, plus Oscar didn't get team orders. It's not Oscar's fault if he didn't get orders.
"... Oscar did that pass as if Lando was in a Ferrari or Mercedes." wait a second, isn't it what it should be 🤔 Isn't it a geninune racing breed behavior 🤔 True pure breed racers should race 1ST for themselves, then for the team, then may be for their team mates I strogly expect 😅
The people who are the most upset about it are the ones who've complained the loudest about none of Max Verstappen's teammates getting close to him with any frequency.
But you have realistic times when you race and not to race as a team. Could've just raced together from lap 2 and not on the last lap, when other cars are not around so close.
ASs a Mclaren fan youd realise how much it cost their whole race
yeah... except in hungary where they were gaslighting norris into giving up a 6 second lead because they screwed up the strategy after piastri couldn´t catch up by himself... but who needs team mates?
Exactly and it's not like he hit lando 😂 sorry bro but lando has blown like 10 race wins/poles at this point I think it's his fault lol
Piastri looking at a chance to win......is like someone out to dinner.....and have the possibility of a great dessert (even tho they are on a diet) .....it's too hard to resist!
Piastri is a rookie F3/F2 champion!! How did he get those championships? Peter Windsor certainly has no idea....If McLaren really want Lando Norris to be their next drivers champion since Lewis Hamilton in 2008. They should have employeed a slow driver like, Franco Colapinto or Logan Sargeant. McLaren know that Lando is too fragile up against Max Verstappen, with Oscar they won't. If Peter Windsor cannot see this......well he's well past it. isn't he.
@@Mexxx65don’t worry Peter will change his mind sooner or later. All you have to do is listen to the other episodes and see how many much of a hypocrite he is. Intentional or not. I have respect with the depth of discussion he goes in but he just can’t stick to one opinion most of the time.
@@PointonMedia He contradicts himself far too much now.
Peter IS on a Debbie Downer. He hates that his love-child Lando is being challenged by Oscar. The petulance that Lando displayed immediately after Oscar's maiden win is being replicated again by Peter.
If Lando hadn't bottled it when Charles was behind him, Oscar would have won that race. I'm betting Lando and Peter are getting some perverse pleasure from that knowledge.
Isn't Oscar still within a mathematical chance of winning the title himself
Peter’s had a crush on Lando for years! It’s kinda cringy and scary
If Danny was still at McLaren, I doubt they’d be in the Constructors Title fight. As a Danny Ric fan, it pains me to admit that.
this reminds me of the first year that Lewis Hamilton put the pressure on Fernando Alonso. Peter would be saying they should have told Hamilton to stop trying to win and let Fernando win. Oscar is the next big thing and there is nothing Lando can do about it just like Fernando had nothing for Lewis.
putting Lando in the same tier as Max, Lewis, Charles is ... wild. The only notable thing Lando's done, so far, is prove that you need more than the fastest car to win in F1
M sorry Oscar owes Lando nothing
I can't figure out why so many people seem to think that Piastri relies on Lando for his paycheck. From what McLaren has told us, these two have been told to race. Let Oscar race.
@@harryreed4164yeah it seems like Peter and people who think like him believe whoever has a shot to win the title should be focused on and the other driver should help at the cost of his own career. It makes sense but I’m surprised that Peter a guy who always claims he’s for better racing would support that type of mindset and approach it’s anti racing if anything team orders should be banned.
Thats true. But McLaren owe it to themselves to take advantage of the circumstance that they have found themselves in. They have the car and a driver who is more in reach of Max Verstappen, them letting their drivers fight is literally shooting themselves in the foot. You DO NOT get these chances every day, week, every year even… You as a team MUST make these tough decisions to back your driver who is in the best position for the championship.
@@danonthestrings they have two drivers who are surely going to deliver the constructors title. As long as they aren't crashing into each other, I don't see why Mclaren shouldn't let them race. Come on man.
Piastri shouldnt even have that one victory if not for lando pulling over for him. He couldn’t get there on his own pace. Had it been any other driver in front of him he’d still be winless
That intro, that move by Oscar
Peter has characterised it brilliantly right? Very well said
If Lando is as good as people say he is, why wasn’t he instinctively not ready for Piastri’s move and then loose 2nd place to Charles as well. Oscar owes nothing to Lando and not going for an opportunity when it presents itself is unbecoming of a racer!
PAPAYA RULES
Oscar is better and that is a problem... Zack rode Lando this entire time... Promised a car. Now that they have hit... Oscar arrives and is dominant.
That’s not the point …. The fact is we want championship fight ..and redbull are strictly 1 driver team so Lando has inherent disadvantage.. if this was for P4 or 5 nobody would have cared
@@thirdguy4589 What makes Oscar better? And please say facts
@@thirdguy4589 Oscar is strong. He is not yet dominant. This early in his career he could become a better driver than lando quickly, but he is not there yet. Similarly, Lando has unfortunatley spent years being given cars that are the back end of top teams/high end of mid teams and it has undeniably damaged his racecraft, but this one season could also reignite it and I believe it has done on occassion. So Oscar could get better, but Lando could also easily get better. Either way, Oscar has proven good/great, but not yet better than Lando.
How many times have I heard on this channel the likes of Schumacher and Verstappen being lauded for their super competitive attitude and not giving an inch especially where a teammate is concerned. So why the outrage when Oscar exhibits similar attributes. Seems a little hypocritical to me.
It’s coz he beat their boy.
Mark Webber is behind Oscar, could Oscar's contract have a #1 driver clause in it?
It sure could
Peters story is actually so interesting. Magazine editor to sponsorship manager to team manager williams. Also was in the car with Frank williams in the crash where he was sadly paralysed. Really interesting guy
Oscars mentality is a wolf Lando is a sheep. He needs to toughen up and stop looking for handouts
Stop whining and whinging Peter. You've said many times in the past they're racing drivers and let them race. Oscar raced. So which is it Peter.....Don't be a hypocrite.
The question we should all ask ourselves is who of the two will go and where? Lando to Audi?
Zack thought he got himself a new puppy when he signed Oscar, but he got himself a dingo
hate your self that much? lol It's a race not a war.
@@WH0oo... Nah, I don't. I just know what a kampfschwein Oscar is. They shouldn't be surprised
Lando disrespected Oscar when he said “tell him to catch me” Oscar just evened the score.
If Norris is such a gun then why didn’t he simply overtake Piastri. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Piastri is the better bet.
Also had 2 undercuts in the race. gains at least 3 secs each pit stop.
Oscar is racing, his pass was super clean. Give the kid a break, he ain’t a number 2
So sick of hearing everyone having a go at Oscar for doing what every race car driver does. Fight for a win. He’s moved aside for Lando quite a few times and lando has screwed those opportunities he’s been given. So I say go Oscar. Lando needs to toughen up. He ain’t gonna be world champion if he starts cracking the sads everytime he makes a mistake or gets passed by another car.
I think Oscar has a higher ceiling, and is probably just a better driver. He's still a rookie, but his year 2 is WAY better than Lando's year 2. I think he's up there with the likes of Leclerc. He's not a Max or a Hamilton, but those are rare generational talents.
To be honest, Lando is probably just a very good #2 driver like Sainz. He just doesn't seem to have the will to 'do what it takes' to win.
Oscar - clearly - seems to have the will to do what it takes.
you dont deserve a title, you earn it
I recon the over take Oscar did on Lando was the best of the season and it’s good seeing people sticking up for Oscar on this channel.
Oscar is racing in F1 to win races not to play second fiddle Lando.
Oscar has been helping out Lando since he gave up his third spot at his home Gp in Australia to Lando.
Lando need to improve his first lap that what letting him down.
Look this is a kill or be killed sport. It's a gladiatorial contest and Oscar owes Norris nothing and if he has a contract that says equal drivers in the team then it's open season.
The fact of the matter is McLaren signed two superstar drivers, and well done to them. Then they built a championship contending car, well done again.
The question is, which of the two drivers is better, and which one of them will have the most luck? McLaren have also allowed them to race, well done again! Now add a dash of team orders and the possibility of favouritism mixed with a bit of Norris getting in their ear. That sums up the season for me.
Peter I used to think of him as a good journalist. Not anymore. Just opinionated. Oscar is like 40 points behind Lando. If Lando wants to be number one. He needs to wipe the floor with Oscar. Obviously he can’t.
How very Peter have himself an opinion! How very dare he! 🤯
He's 40 points behind, he is having the floor wiped by Lando. Currently its a similar dynamic to Carlos and Leclerc, both are strong drivers, but Lando is still currently better. Even Checo beat max a few times a year, and Oscar is a lot better than Perez.
Peter is looking at it in a logical way where you win championships and not as entertainment.
Yeah indeed. Hes usually 90% wrong on everything. Stopped listening a long time ago to P.W.
You race to win
You see a gap
You don’t go for it, hang up the gloves.
Period!
Only you would criticize Charles after he drove the best race of the year. How many mistakes did he make this year that lost him points?
Go criticize Lando for not winning races in the best car 😅
Oscar has said to McLaren. I'm not driving for you, so that in every race, if I am ahead of Lando I will surrender my position to him. And that he will "help" Lando if he has a chance of the drivers championship, if he is in the position to do so. Clear as day...............unless you are some narrow minded Brit....that always thinks a Brit driver in any F1 team is "entitled" to be the No.1 driver. For eg, Ollie Bearman, Luke Browning. And whats with all this Father at the track all the time rubbish? Do you see Oscars parents at every single race? No!
Michael Schumacher did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else
Mika Hakkinen also did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else
Lewis Hamilton also did many unexpectedly aggressive passes on his team mate and anyone else
All the great F1 champions pretty much where like this.
Lando, Lando is far too conservative and passive. Just look at him trying to pass Max Verstappen at Austria this year.
I hope Oscar is close enough to Lando for the rest of the races, to put the manners on him. again and again, pass him. Oscar spent a whole year last year, backing up the Ferrari's and Mercedes for Lando. This is a whole new season. Oscar is exerting his dominance in the team. Got NOTHING to do with Mark Webber. Oscar has the "wood" on Lando now, he is mentally tougher, he's on top. Yeah Lando is quick, but he is not a complete F1 driver.
“In his perifere there was Daniel doing a nice job”….Mr Windsor..that bollocks. Daniel wasn’t doing a nice job. Any standard and measurment you take. That’s pure nonsense
The British media has been pressuring McLaren to prioritise Lando since Zandvoort.
Now they’re getting butt-hurt because Piastri isn’t bending the knee to their boy.
Come and take it