I have a '71, been sitting all winter, dang this video makes me want to go for a drive. This is what a sports car is made for. Man this is almost as good as sex :)
totally restored and roadrace modified a 1970 20 years ago. put a built 3.1 L motor in it with a nice cam, blueprinted SU's,(had triple Mikunis too, but never got them reliable) electronic ignition, and all the other good stuff to make it fast and stable. good for 150mph all day long. sold it to finance a business. really miss that car.
I had one as a kid... it was stock and slow with valves that would float... it always felt So scary when it got over 110 when it would start to feel more like a plane than a car... but mine had bad shocks
I can relate. I’ve taken OEM suspension above 110 but below OEM gauge max range... and I agree it was more like a plane or boat. I was young and dumb and... sh!t that was fun. 😆
I view your car as the epitome of what a classic Z car should be. I have a 72 240Z that is about 98% rust free and I'm going to build mine in a similar fashion. High compression stroker L6 with a suspension setup for road race/autoX. I would also love to get a 510 someday but finding good one is tough.
Dylan McCallister ....worth every penny! Camshaft duration and scavenging exhaust are the most significant factors in this sound relative to other L6s, in my opinion. Good luck with your project!
Big cams will do that, have you watched any of the other videos with a cammed inline 6? They can be very lopey too. Plus, who makes a 3.1L V8 that doesn't cost two arms and two legs. I can think of one company that makes a 3-3.2 liter engine but that engine costs 40k and sounds like a F1 engine. This engine is just a well built inline 6. If I had to guess it started as an L28 and was stroked out to 3.1L with a big cam to go with it.
@S30xSoshinoya Staying in the DY? I'm not sure what that means, so I'll shotgun my answer. It's not stock. Koni 2-way race struts, 350/325# springs, heim-joint fully adjustable sways, camber plates, etc. The conditions of the road weren't the greatest and my slicks are near the end of their life cycle. Also, the rear end is a 4.37 R180 with a Quaiffe ATB, so the manner in which the rear swings out / breaks loose is different than that of a LSD: very touchy / requires different inputs.
The motor seized (kept in storage too long) before I was able to dyno it. Previous iteration had 265 hp to the wheels, but was significantly restricted by street exhaust. Between the full race exhaust and some other "in the weeds" engine internals, I'm guestimating 285+ whp, but now we'll never know. Hoping to have everything rebuilt (and dynoed) by the spring of '13...
My outer-valve-springs only setup limits my revs to 7600rpm max, though I have the damper/crank/flywheel balanced to 10k. My other springs are good to 9200rpm, but the outer-only setup saves some drivetrain loss. Cam drops out by 7250-7500 anyway. At 5:09 you can hear the rev limiter kick in for a second. I had it set to around 7250 or so because I didn't have A/F data and didn't want to harm the motor should it be too lean.
Agreed. This was the first time I drove it after tuning it, and the pedal sensitivity was beyond my skill level. I theorize it will remain so until I get a throttle cable vice bellcranks / pushrods. Too bad the car is on blocks. :(
Oh yea...Arkansas has some sweet opportunities for a Z. I live In Tulsa but we have a place at flint ridge, Highway 10? oh yea, I am there... Great video, great sound and some nice wheel work...
im in your general area. i get a kick out of the performance bike magazines when they refer to our roads as americas best kept secret. im a 2am ninja. narrows down the traffic to just me and the wildlife.
An online source. Weren't that expensive, $15-25 I want to say. As I recall I tried 2-3 varieties before the style/fit was just right. Then I bought 2 extra since they get sweaty when racing in July / will eventually need replacing.
It didn't seize in storage, it seized after running for a few minutes after storage while I investigated the lack of oil pressure. I haven't touched the motor yet. I have some other things going on and don't have the cash for a project right now. How is it pointless to tear down a dedicated race motor and inspect for damage? That *is* the point: to inspect for damage. Something encountered a friction bind, or it wouldn't have seized.
Weggman Hillard I was thinking the same but honestly I’d like to hear it run around. Maybe not crossing the double yellow around the corners so much....
i must say that the steering had a little more play then it should. but sick z!!! i miss the sound of the high revs N/A. i own a 73 240z turbo. if you want to see it look under youtube @ nicks turbo z first one doing a donut lol
Motor is rebuilt, but I can't mount it just yet. I'm waiting to finish modifying my crossmember (pivot point relocation) for fully adjustable LCAs ( + TC rods). Hoping to have the car fully race worthy by next spring.
Mels VW Oil pump failure leading to a full engine seize in about 30 seconds at idle. Very little internal damage, fortunately. Replaced the crank bearings, cam towers, two valves that were damaged, and upgraded to lightweight rockers. The rebuilt motor has been wrapped in cellophane for months... Budget and moving has put the project on hold.
,I can understand that. Good luck. We just finished turbo install on 260z with megasquurt. Think we hurt a rod bearing during tune on dyno. Made 280hp 310tq. Going to znationals anyways next week
I don't have any reason to believe that you should expect your motor to have seized, I still have no idea what happened. If you want to be safe, remove each spark plug and spray oil into each cylinder, remove the camshaft cover and lubricate everything with oil, and finally... turn the crank by hand. That's what I'd do.
Fresh engines stick when they sit, because they are tight. Pour some SeaFoam and/or some Marvel mystery oil in the holes and let it soak for a bit. I hope you haven't already torn the engine down, because it would be completely pointless.
@@zredbaron240 I can’t get over your car sir. I was tempted to do a VQ swap in my 240 but yours has sealed the deal! Thank you. I’ve been watching Datsun videos for the past couple years and yours just got recommended today. Thank the lords of algorithm! I’ve now watched all your videos 😂 Question … did you do all the engine upgrading after this video? It sounds a lot more raw here - but hey, your car in all the videos sounds immense. Again thank you for these videos and showing your journey with your Z
@@BakerDeltaFour thanks for sharing your excitement and motivation. Good luck on your upcoming build! The car sounds raw here because it has no muffler, no exhaust - just open headers and no hood here. 😉 Was enough to leave one’s ears a bit deafened afterward, not recommended. 😅 In later videos the car has two mufflers in series in order to get under ~96 dB. Thanks again for your enthusiasm, I have been wanting to upload more videos from my hard drive. Lots of races and journeying never got shared. Would be cool to have organized playlists or maybe even a Wix website to support and help organize.
@@zredbaron240 Hey man thanks for the reply. So the long video you have with all the pictures describing the build are all the modifications present in this video except for the lack of mufflers/exhaust/bonnet …
@@BakerDeltaFour incorrect. The long memoir video was 7 years after this video above. The head and cam are the same, and so is the transmission, diff, struts and headers. However the suspension is replaced and engine is completely rebuilt and exhaust installed in that memoir video. Same chassis and goals but the builds are a world apart. Kinda. Clear as mud? 😉
Hah! This actually happened, the day before, after I tuned the car and was buttoning up the trailer. I was extremely apologetic and explained I came out to this empty area to not bother anyone but the cows as I tuned my carbs... that my car had open headers and sounded like it was racing no matter what speed I was going. He agreed that made perfect sense and we chatted for about 15 mins before parting paths. Not quite the same as city life! CA would have impounded my car for about 53 reasons...
La voiture a l’air sympa mais il semblerait que .il à un manque d’expérience sur le pilotage Un apprentissage sur piste vous fera le plus grand bien avec un instructeur
zredbaron240 that sucks balls. im looking at a 240z right now but it is kinda rough. he only wants like 300$ tho so im gonna go for it. probbaly gonna just do some minor mods to the engine thats in it and some good suspension, sway bars, tires and wheels and a few other handling enhancement mods. lol
DY is double yellow. I ride the local roads on my zx6r and we have a few problems with cars crossing over and very close to plowing us like a woman in a porno. And you could have just said i have slicks and i would understand. looks like fun nevertheless just looks a bitch to drive.
I'm sorry. I had a 1st series 240z(1972) w/ 2 down draft carbs. 23k original miles. If you dropped your rpm's going into a turn it was slide city.Take your foot off that pedal and the rear end came right off the road. That isn't a 240 straight six. Way to rough. Sounds like a big block.
The reason you scared your self @4:00 is the fact that the rear end locks momentarily on a down shift because you don't blip the throttle while double de clutching (rev match) on your down shifts...and if the road was 'slippery' why did you drive so hard on an unfamiliar road...?
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I could literally watch this all day! good shishh!
I watch it regularly. :)
What an amazing tune you did. Sounds like it craves for speed and more like there isn't enough gears to satisfy that beast. Congrats!!! Love it.
I have a '71, been sitting all winter, dang this video makes me want to go for a drive. This is what a sports car is made for. Man this is almost as good as sex :)
totally restored and roadrace modified a 1970 20 years ago. put a built 3.1 L motor in it with a nice cam, blueprinted SU's,(had triple Mikunis too, but never got them reliable) electronic ignition, and all the other good stuff to make it fast and stable. good for 150mph all day long. sold it to finance a business. really miss that car.
Shaking head in disbelief and amazement.
Oh wow... Another area of NWA that I did not realize, till just now, that I recognize......
Dude this sound mint AF!!!
Anytime I need a Z fix I turn to this video. Show me the way, sir! I want to build just like you!
I had one as a kid... it was stock and slow with valves that would float... it always felt So scary when it got over 110 when it would start to feel more like a plane than a car... but mine had bad shocks
I can relate. I’ve taken OEM suspension above 110 but below OEM gauge max range... and I agree it was more like a plane or boat. I was young and dumb and... sh!t that was fun. 😆
I was going to build a L28ET motor, 3.1 has major power, its making me rethink my build.
This just reminded me of the Devil Z
I view your car as the epitome of what a classic Z car should be. I have a 72 240Z that is about 98% rust free and I'm going to build mine in a similar fashion. High compression stroker L6 with a suspension setup for road race/autoX. I would also love to get a 510 someday but finding good one is tough.
that is a stroked L28??? wow. okay nevermind on the rb25det, I think I might stick with less NA hp just to make that noise.
Dylan McCallister ....worth every penny! Camshaft duration and scavenging exhaust are the most significant factors in this sound relative to other L6s, in my opinion. Good luck with your project!
I suspect the oil pump seized, but won't know until I pull the motor. Hopefully will get that all done by September...
MSA 3-spoke mahogany. it comes as a brushed matte aluminum finish, but I had it professionally polished.
Man love that sound of a 3.1 stroker!
thanks for sharing this, beautiful build sir.
tloh My pleasure, I am glad you have enjoyed it. This car is back in competition. 1080P videos to follow. 😎
awesome and i enjoyed it alot.
What if Mr. Snell just so happened to walk out in the road?
Big cams will do that, have you watched any of the other videos with a cammed inline 6? They can be very lopey too. Plus, who makes a 3.1L V8 that doesn't cost two arms and two legs. I can think of one company that makes a 3-3.2 liter engine but that engine costs 40k and sounds like a F1 engine. This engine is just a well built inline 6. If I had to guess it started as an L28 and was stroked out to 3.1L with a big cam to go with it.
Like those gauges man.
Love the sound of the Z's straight six!
@S30xSoshinoya
Staying in the DY? I'm not sure what that means, so I'll shotgun my answer.
It's not stock. Koni 2-way race struts, 350/325# springs, heim-joint fully adjustable sways, camber plates, etc.
The conditions of the road weren't the greatest and my slicks are near the end of their life cycle.
Also, the rear end is a 4.37 R180 with a Quaiffe ATB, so the manner in which the rear swings out / breaks loose is different than that of a LSD: very touchy / requires different inputs.
AutoMeter Carbon Fiber series, circa 2004. Still available last I checked about 2 years ago.
The motor seized (kept in storage too long) before I was able to dyno it. Previous iteration had 265 hp to the wheels, but was significantly restricted by street exhaust. Between the full race exhaust and some other "in the weeds" engine internals, I'm guestimating 285+ whp, but now we'll never know. Hoping to have everything rebuilt (and dynoed) by the spring of '13...
Thanks. :) Gauges are the Autometer Carbon Fiber series.
My outer-valve-springs only setup limits my revs to 7600rpm max, though I have the damper/crank/flywheel balanced to 10k. My other springs are good to 9200rpm, but the outer-only setup saves some drivetrain loss. Cam drops out by 7250-7500 anyway.
At 5:09 you can hear the rev limiter kick in for a second. I had it set to around 7250 or so because I didn't have A/F data and didn't want to harm the motor should it be too lean.
old school driving gloves - nice to see being "period correct"!
MSA 3-spoke mahogany / aluminum. I had the brushed aluminum professionally polished.
These roads are exactly why i love living in the ozarks
thank you for blessing my ears!
Yes, but this was the last time the car was driven. The motor seized while being stored for 6+ months. Didn't even get to dyno it! :'(
looks good, i wish my z was as cool as yours man, how much did the build set you back?
R180 4.37 Quaiffe ATB. The pumpkin came from a 1980 Datsun King Cab 4x4 (front diff).
Agreed. This was the first time I drove it after tuning it, and the pedal sensitivity was beyond my skill level. I theorize it will remain so until I get a throttle cable vice bellcranks / pushrods. Too bad the car is on blocks. :(
Oh yea...Arkansas has some sweet opportunities for a Z. I live In Tulsa but we have a place at flint ridge, Highway 10? oh yea, I am there...
Great video, great sound and some nice wheel work...
I'd volunteer to be the camera man to hear that sweet music..haha
NW AR, just east of where 412 crosses Beaver Lake.
What STEERING WHEEL is that? "Dino"? What size? Thanks and fantastic Z!!!!!
im in your general area. i get a kick out of the performance bike magazines when they refer to our roads as americas best kept secret. im a 2am ninja. narrows down the traffic to just me and the wildlife.
An online source. Weren't that expensive, $15-25 I want to say. As I recall I tried 2-3 varieties before the style/fit was just right. Then I bought 2 extra since they get sweaty when racing in July / will eventually need replacing.
What steering wheel is that? I really like it..
It didn't seize in storage, it seized after running for a few minutes after storage while I investigated the lack of oil pressure.
I haven't touched the motor yet. I have some other things going on and don't have the cash for a project right now.
How is it pointless to tear down a dedicated race motor and inspect for damage? That *is* the point: to inspect for damage. Something encountered a friction bind, or it wouldn't have seized.
Is your suspension messed up or all stock, Your having a hard time staying in the DY and constant steering inputs even on the straights.
@S30xSoshinoya it’s not stock.... Coilovers, heim joints, on old race tires / slicks.
Where did you find the parts for building such a badass engine?
who build you re engine
What are the max revs with your 3.1l build
AutoMeter Carbon Fiber series. Other videos show them as well.
I'm sure the people who live there, loved having you race around there!
Weggman Hillard I was thinking the same but honestly I’d like to hear it run around. Maybe not crossing the double yellow around the corners so much....
Love the build man.. Do you still have the car?
Where did you get the new instruments/gauges? Nice car and driving btw!
do you remember what site?
i just ran the ozarks last sunday. im in sheridan but i can't help myself. lol
Is it out of storage now ?
@Kas Yessir!
Years later...
ruclips.net/video/zIhQ0_njKEw/видео.html
Whats your number to depart from it?
i must say that the steering had a little more play then it should. but sick z!!! i miss the sound of the high revs N/A. i own a 73 240z turbo. if you want to see it look under youtube @ nicks turbo z first one doing a donut lol
Any m ore updates?
Motor is rebuilt, but I can't mount it just yet. I'm waiting to finish modifying my crossmember (pivot point relocation) for fully adjustable LCAs ( + TC rods). Hoping to have the car fully race worthy by next spring.
Didn't know you pulled back out. What happened?
Mels VW
Oil pump failure leading to a full engine seize in about 30 seconds at idle. Very little internal damage, fortunately. Replaced the crank bearings, cam towers, two valves that were damaged, and upgraded to lightweight rockers. The rebuilt motor has been wrapped in cellophane for months... Budget and moving has put the project on hold.
,I can understand that. Good luck. We just finished turbo install on 260z with megasquurt. Think we hurt a rod bearing during tune on dyno. Made 280hp 310tq. Going to znationals anyways next week
Mels VW
Good luck!
You had that moment at 4 mins because you aren't blipping the throttle/ heel toe-ing your downshifts :( Awesome car though
What if a car comes?
Hey man what kind of wheels do you have? (not shown in this video) I wrote it down a while ago, but cant find it. thanks!
That one turn scared me then u slid
What kind of gauges are you using? Can you send me a pic?
I don't have any reason to believe that you should expect your motor to have seized, I still have no idea what happened. If you want to be safe, remove each spark plug and spray oil into each cylinder, remove the camshaft cover and lubricate everything with oil, and finally... turn the crank by hand. That's what I'd do.
What kind of gauges are those?
WAAOOOO HOW MCUH HP THAT ENGINE HAS ??? O___O
Nice dash.
how much power does this car have?
@hartsickdisciple about 270whp
hell yea brother
Fresh engines stick when they sit, because they are tight. Pour some SeaFoam and/or some Marvel mystery oil in the holes and let it soak for a bit.
I hope you haven't already torn the engine down, because it would be completely pointless.
watch out. this man has gloves.
About five iterations of builds, each time truly believing I was building what I envisioned. Whoops.
Fuck turbos, I want this.
what rear end gear ratio are you running?
2:39 "Now, it's time to get SERIOUS"
I miss mine...
Do u still have the car now?
Yep! We just moved back to Arkansas right up the road from this video. Planning to get some races in this spring and summer….
@@zredbaron240 I can’t get over your car sir. I was tempted to do a VQ swap in my 240 but yours has sealed the deal! Thank you. I’ve been watching Datsun videos for the past couple years and yours just got recommended today. Thank the lords of algorithm! I’ve now watched all your videos 😂 Question … did you do all the engine upgrading after this video? It sounds a lot more raw here - but hey, your car in all the videos sounds immense. Again thank you for these videos and showing your journey with your Z
@@BakerDeltaFour thanks for sharing your excitement and motivation. Good luck on your upcoming build!
The car sounds raw here because it has no muffler, no exhaust - just open headers and no hood here. 😉 Was enough to leave one’s ears a bit deafened afterward, not recommended. 😅 In later videos the car has two mufflers in series in order to get under ~96 dB.
Thanks again for your enthusiasm, I have been wanting to upload more videos from my hard drive. Lots of races and journeying never got shared. Would be cool to have organized playlists or maybe even a Wix website to support and help organize.
@@zredbaron240 Hey man thanks for the reply. So the long video you have with all the pictures describing the build are all the modifications present in this video except for the lack of mufflers/exhaust/bonnet …
@@BakerDeltaFour incorrect. The long memoir video was 7 years after this video above. The head and cam are the same, and so is the transmission, diff, struts and headers. However the suspension is replaced and engine is completely rebuilt and exhaust installed in that memoir video. Same chassis and goals but the builds are a world apart. Kinda. Clear as mud? 😉
Now this is what a z was built to do
This is my neck of the woods...
@STREWNGC
unmodified 1980 280ZX 5 speed
最高のサウンド！
how much did it cost you to build that engine?
Impossible to answer without getting too complicated. Probably triple what an average turbo build would cost. I cut zero corners had a few do-overs...
Seems to me I bought them on Amazon via a third-party vendor...
Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the ground. amazing Z
Expensive right? :p
geeeeeeeeeeeeeez i gota get my Z in shape
Awesome...
That's one scary car
nice driving gloves
Crazy, I love you. Lol
Hah! This actually happened, the day before, after I tuned the car and was buttoning up the trailer. I was extremely apologetic and explained I came out to this empty area to not bother anyone but the cows as I tuned my carbs... that my car had open headers and sounded like it was racing no matter what speed I was going.
He agreed that made perfect sense and we chatted for about 15 mins before parting paths. Not quite the same as city life! CA would have impounded my car for about 53 reasons...
Saweet!!!
La voiture a l’air sympa mais il semblerait que .il à un manque d’expérience sur le pilotage Un apprentissage sur piste vous fera le plus grand bien avec un instructeur
haha awesome gloves. where did you get them?
you just got a new sub. please upload more.
Hah! Engine is almost rebuilt after it seized in storage. Hoping to have a fully functional Z again sometime this summer...
zredbaron240 that sucks balls. im looking at a 240z right now but it is kinda rough. he only wants like 300$ tho so im gonna go for it. probbaly gonna just do some minor mods to the engine thats in it and some good suspension, sway bars, tires and wheels and a few other handling enhancement mods. lol
zredbaron240 how did it seize during storage?
chase gibbins that's how it starts, "I'm only going to do some minor mods" then before you know it you're rebuilding the thing from scratch haha.
Haha yeah im looking at all tyoes of parts. Its better than i thought it would be
DY is double yellow. I ride the local roads on my zx6r and we have a few problems with cars crossing over and very close to plowing us like a woman in a porno. And you could have just said i have slicks and i would understand. looks like fun nevertheless just looks a bitch to drive.
2:40 shit just got real
I'm sorry. I had a 1st series 240z(1972) w/ 2 down draft carbs. 23k original miles. If you dropped your rpm's going into a turn it was slide city.Take your foot off that pedal and the rear end came right off the road. That isn't a 240 straight six. Way to rough. Sounds like a big block.
Yes. It is an l series Nissan motor. No v8
is this REALLY the motor that came in the Z? it sounds NOTHING like it. you suuuuuuuuure it's not a 2JZ, VQ or LSx? ;)
The reason you scared your self @4:00 is the fact that the rear end locks momentarily on a down shift because you don't blip the throttle while double de clutching (rev match) on your down shifts...and if the road was 'slippery' why did you drive so hard on an unfamiliar road...?
video stabilization needed!
very cool.....like therapy, only better.....LOL