This is truly 1 of the best videos I have ever seen. You explain it all beautifully and simply to where people can understand it. Thank you. And Happy New Year! Chip
Hi Heath, good video of the differences between the vertical splitters and the Horizontal splitters. One thing I would add is that if you have the extended tray for the Eastonmade for the large rounds it makes it somewhat easier as most of the time the pieces from the first split fall onto the extended tray, but not always. I also could keep those pieces there until I was ready for them. I didn’t even know about the extended tray as an option until I went to Woodsman days. BTW, the hat arrived today and you can I’ll see it on upcoming videos. Thanks again
I LOVE my extended tray on my 22/28, and also love the Dual Log Lift I have on it. Although Dual Log lift is useless when running boxwedge, but it does help when my tall 4 way is used. :) ruclips.net/video/UmH2ImBb0EY/видео.html
Great video Heath! You hit all the pros and cons to both types of splitters! Just like you said, it really comes down to what type of output you want and what type of splits you’re looking for 👌🏻 Now you better get that kitchen finished 😂
Great comparison Heath! I would have loved to get the axis but the height was a problem to be able to park it inside. That's why I bought the 12-22. - Tim
Good comparison. I just split a bunch of about 36” Beech rounds on the Axis yesterday. I did have them cut in 1/2 with a chainsaw so I had a chance of moving them with just one person. Sliding verses catching seems way safer.
Thanks Heath! You commented to me recently that you planned to do this video. The video confirmed what I was thinking and plan to buy. I will only criticize one thing in your video and that is that you walked around the horizontal splitter w/o mentioning that a pile of wood or a conveyor may be in the way when going around it in that direction. So, it would be interesting to see if you timed yourself doing a face cord using both machines. Please do bundle size or smaller wood.
As far as I'm concerned, the best "machine" to have in the woodyard is the Wood Bunny!🐰 But beyond that, I'll take the Axis. Great job with the comparison Hubie - you made some great points!👍
Great topic for a video Heath. I happen to be one of those people going through that right now. Everything is telling me that vertical is the way to go for my operation. Evan will be leaving for college next year and a log lift is a must. I’m looking at the Wolfridge VS 17 C! the only hangup is the extra cost to get into a vertical for me. You made a lot of great points.👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
@@toddsoutsideagain I can see it under roof where your camper sits now. If I was spending that much money on a piece of equipment. 1st thing I would have a shelter erected for it to be out of the weather. And in your case you have that. But I watch several woodyard channels and cannot understand why those expensive splitters and processors are not under a roof. I'm telling you that would be my 1st move. Anyhow looking forward to seeing what you get. A Wolfridge Pro 28 C would make you a killer splitter too. ;)
@@everettt8301 Yeah vertical is where my heart is because of the size of splits we like to produce! That being said they are so big and hard to move. It will not currently fit in my shed and I’m like you it must be under roof! It’s a struggle for me but it will be a while so I have time to weigh out the options!👊🏻
Both great splitters types. I definitely can’t afford both. So I probably get a nice horizontal. You sending the 12-22 to Idaho for me 😂 keep up the good work.
Thanks for doing the comparison between vertical and horizontal. I personally think for myself a vertical is the best for my use. One thing I can’t believe is not many people have built tables like your all wood round table. I seen yours table right when you got it. I built mine the next day. I wouldn’t be without it. I set it at 36inch table height. About the same height of an Axis. My round table is really an all wood table. Hold right around 1/3 Cord. If you don’t mind me asking what does a used 12-22 go for these days? I’m sure it wasn’t hard to move.
Great comparison video Heath and the 12-22 needed to move for the kitchen!! I've been dreaming about the WR 17VS, but will most likely stick with my WR pro 28c. I have most of the bells and whistles with it and just added the table extension to help hold the big split rounds. I move my splitter around quite a bit and 1,400lbs is enough for me to handle.
Thanks Obie, you really can’t go wrong with either. My buddy is in the same exact situation as you. He has the Pro28C and is considering going vertical but isn’t sure if he wants to just yet.
Thanks for the breakdown! Really informative!! I wish somebody would make a vertical splitter in the $5-7k range. I burn wood in my own house and sell 4-5 cords per year out of a roadside stand. I cannot justify $13,000 for a log splitter. I think there are a lot of people just like me, if a company could offer a "heavy homeowner " grade vertical splitter in that $5-7k range they would sell a bunch of them
Hi, have a look at the power split. You can get a static buggy splitter built the way you want.. example”. 36” high table, 6.5 Honda,,, and a 2- stage pump for around 5k
Just keep in mind that the numbers that power split gives you are not accurate,, but you don’t need a hole lot of tonnage with a single wedge. I have one that’s around 8-10 tons and it splits just fine when you read the block of wood
Nicely done. I’ve been comparing for a long time. It seems the 7 way box can get me smaller easy to handle pieces for small handed people and elderly which is the size we want to always cut. But I wish I could run both the 7 way box and axis and first just to compare and feel the differences. Thanks.
Amazing Footage & Information, to our loyal subscribers & community. Let go kitchen for January. Also how's the home wood burner doing with your upgrades. 🙏🏽🤞🏽🤝🏽
Good day Heath great comparison of both a vertical and horizontal splitter but have to disagree at least with the 12-22 that it’s a miracle round as you can work from the same side that you load the logs. I work mine from both sides . Great video cheers my friend Happy New Year 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
You definitely can work from the lift side but I’d say the majority of people don’t. It is more comfortable to run at least for me from the opposite side.
Great video! Pretty much agree with everyone of your points! A little disappointed that I didn't know that you were looking on selling the 12-22... I would have bought it and would have loved to have seen it come back up to Canada! :-)
A good job On comparison On both machines did a good job You spoke highly on both But we'll catch you on another one You have a good day stay safe stay healthy
Thank you! Both styles have their place and everyone’s situation is different. Honestly if I had to choose just one I’m not sure which I’d go with. Luckily we’ve been blessed to have both.
Shots fired! Seriously though, I think the Horizontals are a slightly safer option - not that the verticals aren't safe (right Allen Family Firewood), but I just don't trust myself to have my hands as close to the blade as they require. I prefer to just sent it and stand back. One other thing to note - some of the smaller frame splitters allow you to work from the side loading the log lift. This makes it a great option for splitting alone.
Yes they do, I’d say most still operate from the opposite side though. I’d say the horizontal may be slightly safer but when run correctly they’re both reasonably safe.
We did a few over 300lbs a few videos ago on our Axis. It’s definitely easier to slide them than to handle them on a non box wedge horizontal machine. If you look back in our videos we’ve tried them on all of our splitters.
I noticed that when you run the vertical splitter that the logs are sometimes hard to get off the log lift, but if you don't raise it all the way the log will be above the table and slide right over.
I have a home made 36" stroke splitter. I put a round steel toboggan under the hitch on mine and when the splits pile up too high it just pushes the splitter forward along the row on rounds. I bet it would work on the 12/22 also.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Heath have you ever used the Eastonmade 37D? I am considering ordering one as an upgrade to my 22-28 but I am wondering if the diesel fumes become too much when working with the 37D on a still day?
@@somedayzo6 we have not run the 37D much, the only time we were around one much was at the firewood shows and we didn’t notice any issues with the fumes.
Selling the 12-22 is the Best thing you did when you need the money it will help you and Rachel, That was vey well Explained and well Constructed happy new year to both you,
way above my grade. Mine does both AND it's 20,000 lb. What happens when you run out of trees? I'm not a Liberal hysteriac, just having fun. Looking forward to your wood boiler vidideo! if it happens.
For production speed nothing beats a horizontal with an appropriately sized wedge and a conveyor . Vertical seems like a neat accessory for resplitting but only as a #2 splitter . Let's see a 1/3 rd cord challenge with the Axis now . Prove me wrong 😊
See Allen Family Firewood challenge using Buster the vertical. It's pretty fast. You're right though pretty tough to beat a machine that does multiple splits per stroke.
You definitely won’t out produce a horizontal machine especially with an elevator. But if working alone with no elevator you’ll be a lot closer in production time from round to being split and stacked into a tote. I see that you’ve already watched Phil run the challenge. Mike from KNL Firewood ran it with his Axis as well.
The Axis is the best in my opinion to replace the box store.. with the Axis you can quadruple your production and make the bank to purchase a small Processor... then off to the big leagues.. the Axis is the most versatile machine from boiler, to stove, to high value smoker and recreational burning, to kindling.. no other can do so much...
I wonder if you could get one built flipped. I know some manufacturers will somewhat customize a unit for you. Daniel Atkins had his horizontal Wolf Ridge built opposite of how they’re usually built.
Jay, I’m an expert talker lol. I think I only stopped twice during this. We were on a time crunch as the guy who was buying the 12-22 showed up with in 5 minutes of our wrap up.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors also depends on what other equipment you have. The vertical with a 3 way wedge and a rounds table like mine would be pretty fast.
Poor Rachel didn’t get her kitchen yet , keep watching in the 2024 for the NEW KITCHEN. Heath you got to stop 🛑 talking and start put out more firewood 🪵 and bundles. Us U tube are watching for a new KITCHEN 😊.
What awesome timing! I've been on phone with Gerry at Eastonmade, and with Wolfridge both today, just before you posted this awesome video. I have the Eastonmade 22/28 with Dual Log Lifts, 36" extended tray, 5 way Boxwedge, and tall 4 way. This is to much of a splitter for one person. "Merry Go Round" as you mentioned is 100% truth. You need 2 or more people, as the Eastonmade is a BEAST, an Awesome machine. My 22/28 is now for sale as of yesterday, as I'm going with Vertical- from either Wolfridge or Eastonmade. My Horizontal makes to much waste for me to let split wood flow directly into IBC totes. A vertical will mostly eliminate this. So again, GREAT video, great timing, as my 22/28 is gonna be leaving soon as well, for a new unit. I love your very informative videos! ruclips.net/video/UmH2ImBb0EY/видео.html
I’ve been a huge fan of Easton made, but I have to tell you that Wolfridge’s new VS 17. I honestly believe is a better machine with the improvements that they have made the ignition is electric start which is located at the front. The throttle control is located at the front. The log lift goes up completely vertical, and if you decide to get it with the conveyor, it is hydraulically operated as well as the log lift. No need for belts or hand cranking.
@@WoodysRTBFirewood Yep, put down an early deposit today. Now I gotta sell this extremely large overkill BEAST of a machine that I have :),, Eastonmade 22/28
Thanks Jerry, the splitter you have is a beast and definitely can keep a few people busy! Working alone though I think you’ll be really happy with a vertical machine. I’m sure you’ll sell the 22/28 in no time, they don’t hit the used market too often.
Both is definitely the best option if you can swing it! My method is to surprise her with the new splitters! You start by getting pseudo permission, say I’m going to look at this splitter. If she says okay that’s basically permission because why look at it if you aren’t going to buy it if it checks out. Then hit her with the surprise new splitter when it arrives. “No guarantees on the effectiveness of this plan lol”
Their are plenty of vertical and horizontal splitters made right here in the USA. Guessing you didn’t watch the video, it’s not about make or model but style of splitter.
Heath there take off because off PHIL in Allen family firewood 🪵. There get to see OLD BUSTER fill a 2 1/2 cords into PHIL NN trailer in the fastest time on U tube . Hey at why Rachel got one from EASTONMADE because she the fastest lady on U tube for splitting firewood in the wood 🪵 yard . 😊
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This is truly 1 of the best videos I have ever seen. You explain it all beautifully and simply to where people can understand it. Thank you.
And Happy New Year! Chip
Thank you Chip! Definitely appreciate the feedback.
Extremely well done with simple honesty!!!
I was just thinking about the 12/22! Don't have the money to speak any louder than talking to myself.
Thank you! The 12-22 is a great machine for sure.
Heath you gave excellent advice for the people who are struggling to make a decision on what they will be wanting to use for themselves 😮😊❤👍
Thank you Todd.
Thank you, Heath. You made a lot of good points comparing the two. Especially the power increase in the horizontal and the transportation.
Kenny
Thanks Kenny, I tried to touch on things I’ve noticed as well as questions I’ve heard. I know I missed a few things but hope I touched on lost.
Heath great video. Great explanation keep up the good work. I can see Rachel in the background saying let’s get back to work lol have a good day.
Thanks Dave, you know she was helping keep me on track!
Hi Heath, good video of the differences between the vertical splitters and the Horizontal splitters. One thing I would add is that if you have the extended tray for the Eastonmade for the large rounds it makes it somewhat easier as most of the time the pieces from the first split fall onto the extended tray, but not always. I also could keep those pieces there until I was ready for them. I didn’t even know about the extended tray as an option until I went to Woodsman days. BTW, the hat arrived today and you can I’ll see it on upcoming videos. Thanks again
Jeff, great point on the tray it’s a great upgrade. Glad the hat showed up!
I LOVE my extended tray on my 22/28, and also love the Dual Log Lift I have on it. Although Dual Log lift is useless when running boxwedge, but it does help when my tall 4 way is used. :)
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Great video Heath. You hit all the pros of each machine. I still like the idea of one of each 😅.
Thanks Dick, I do too.
Sad to see the 12-22 go, but sounds like it is going to a good home. Best of luck on the kitchen momentum/ progress.👍🙂
Thanks Jimbo. We’d have loved to keep it but I owe Rachel a kitchen!!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors It's a no brainier. Get going on the kitchen, or wear your ear plugs all year.🤣
Happy wife,happy life I guess?? Lolol
@@jimbo5056 luckily I’ve been blessed with poor hearing lol. But I’m thinking the kitchen will be a safer option for me.
Great video Heath! You hit all the pros and cons to both types of splitters! Just like you said, it really comes down to what type of output you want and what type of splits you’re looking for 👌🏻
Now you better get that kitchen finished 😂
Thanks! I tried to touch on as many points as I could. Ugh the kitchen.
Very well put
I like the buy both splitters idea that sounds good to me. It’s all about what works and money😊
Both is best lol. But if you can’t swing one of each hopefully this will help people choose what fits them best.
Great comparison Heath! I would have loved to get the axis but the height was a problem to be able to park it inside. That's why I bought the 12-22. - Tim
Thanks Tim, the height is a pro and a con. I still plan on building a covered area for the Axis but it won’t go into a standard garage door for sure.
Good comparison Heath! I’m sure this will help anyone trying to figure out what splitter is the perfect fit for them and their operation.
Thanks Tony! How long until you should see your new rig?
Good comparison. I just split a bunch of about 36” Beech rounds on the Axis yesterday. I did have them cut in 1/2 with a chainsaw so I had a chance of moving them with just one person. Sliding verses catching seems way safer.
Chris, 36” Beech must weigh a ton!! Sliding is definitely easier than catching.
Thanks Heath! You commented to me recently that you planned to do this video. The video confirmed what I was thinking and plan to buy. I will only criticize one thing in your video and that is that you walked around the horizontal splitter w/o mentioning that a pile of wood or a conveyor may be in the way when going around it in that direction. So, it would be interesting to see if you timed yourself doing a face cord using both machines. Please do bundle size or smaller wood.
Appreciate the feedback. I may run a similar video in the future showing the difference in processing 1/3rd of a cord in each style.
Sit and Split Rules!😂🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
Splitting inside a barn rules! You guys have a great set up that keeps getting better.
Less waste with the vertical, alot of waste with the horizontal splitter
Hahaha... so true!!
As far as I'm concerned, the best "machine" to have in the woodyard is the Wood Bunny!🐰 But beyond that, I'll take the Axis. Great job with the comparison Hubie - you made some great points!👍
Thank you and I’d have to agree with you how ever there’s only one of her and I’m not giving her up.
Great topic for a video Heath. I happen to be one of those people going through that right now. Everything is telling me that vertical is the way to go for my operation. Evan will be leaving for college next year and a log lift is a must. I’m looking at the Wolfridge VS 17 C! the only hangup is the extra cost to get into a vertical for me. You made a lot of great points.👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Todd, I think a vertical would fit your operation perfectly. I would say keep an eye out for a used one but they are not for sale too often!
Hey Todd! I can see a Wolfridge VS 17 C in Jersey county in the future! Go for it! (Sell that camper.)
@@everettt8301 That would be nice! 🤣
@@toddsoutsideagain I can see it under roof where your camper sits now. If I was spending that much money on a piece of equipment. 1st thing I would have a shelter erected for it to be out of the weather. And in your case you have that. But I watch several woodyard channels and cannot understand why those expensive splitters and processors are not under a roof. I'm telling you that would be my 1st move. Anyhow looking forward to seeing what you get. A Wolfridge Pro 28 C would make you a killer splitter too. ;)
@@everettt8301 Yeah vertical is where my heart is because of the size of splits we like to produce! That being said they are so big and hard to move. It will not currently fit in my shed and I’m like you it must be under roof! It’s a struggle for me but it will be a while so I have time to weigh out the options!👊🏻
Both great splitters types. I definitely can’t afford both. So I probably get a nice horizontal. You sending the 12-22 to Idaho for me 😂 keep up the good work.
Thanks, shipping to Idaho was crazy lol.
Congratulations to the new owner of the 12-22…! I certainly wish it was coming to New Jersey. But I definitely could use an AXIS over here!
Ken you’d love an axis!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I certainly would! Someday I’ll have one!
Thanks for doing the comparison between vertical and horizontal. I personally think for myself a vertical is the best for my use. One thing I can’t believe is not many people have built tables like your all wood round table. I seen yours table right when you got it. I built mine the next day. I wouldn’t be without it. I set it at 36inch table height. About the same height of an Axis. My round table is really an all wood table. Hold right around 1/3 Cord. If you don’t mind me asking what does a used 12-22 go for these days? I’m sure it wasn’t hard to move.
We love our rounds table. I sold the 12-22 for what I had into it $9,500.
Bring it on I’ll come pick it up 👍👍👍👍as always good reviews keep up good videos
Thanks Joe!
Great comparison video Heath and the 12-22 needed to move for the kitchen!! I've been dreaming about the WR 17VS, but will most likely stick with my WR pro 28c. I have most of the bells and whistles with it and just added the table extension to help hold the big split rounds. I move my splitter around quite a bit and 1,400lbs is enough for me to handle.
Thanks Obie, you really can’t go wrong with either. My buddy is in the same exact situation as you. He has the Pro28C and is considering going vertical but isn’t sure if he wants to just yet.
Thanks for the breakdown! Really informative!!
I wish somebody would make a vertical splitter in the $5-7k range.
I burn wood in my own house and sell 4-5 cords per year out of a roadside stand. I cannot justify $13,000 for a log splitter. I think there are a lot of people just like me, if a company could offer a "heavy homeowner " grade vertical splitter in that $5-7k range they would sell a bunch of them
You’re welcome and appreciate the feedback. I think you’re right and I wouldn’t be surprised if one came out eventually.
Hi, have a look at the power split. You can get a static buggy splitter built the way you want.. example”. 36” high table, 6.5 Honda,,, and a 2- stage pump for around 5k
Just keep in mind that the numbers that power split gives you are not accurate,, but you don’t need a hole lot of tonnage with a single wedge. I have one that’s around 8-10 tons and it splits just fine when you read the block of wood
@@Ridgewood460 definitely sounds like something more people would be interested in if they knew more about it.
@@Ridgewood460 the commercial splitters definitely seem to have more than the rated power imo.
This was a really good video, I am really starting to think that you need two splitters for a variety of firewood.
Thanks Paul, 2 splitters is definitely the way to go if you can swing it.
Nicely done.
I’ve been comparing for a long time.
It seems the 7 way box can get me smaller easy to handle pieces for small handed people and elderly which is the size we want to always cut.
But I wish I could run both the 7 way box and axis and first just to compare and feel the differences. Thanks.
I’d love to run that comparison. I’ve never owned one of the newer box wedge machines with pull back arm.
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It would be a good test to run in my mind.
If only money didn’t stop progression:-)
Very nice comparison Heath . Log lift is a must for me on the next one !!
Thanks Del, a log lift is a huge plus!!
Hi, Buy the one you like. 😊 Shalom/gw. PS I own a 1222 and Super Split. My favorite wedge is a Tall Boy 4-Way. Shalom/gw
Definitely! There are a lot of great options out there these days.
Great video! If I could only have one splitter it would be vertical
For a lot of operations that would be the best option imo.
Amazing Footage & Information, to our loyal subscribers & community. Let go kitchen for January. Also how's the home wood burner doing with your upgrades. 🙏🏽🤞🏽🤝🏽
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback.
Awesome video and great info!!
Enjoyed it!! 👊🏻
Thank you!
Good day Heath great comparison of both a vertical and horizontal splitter but have to disagree at least with the 12-22 that it’s a miracle round as you can work from the same side that you load the logs. I work mine from both sides . Great video cheers my friend Happy New Year 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
You definitely can work from the lift side but I’d say the majority of people don’t. It is more comfortable to run at least for me from the opposite side.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I do agree about that the opposite side is more comfortable .
Hello Heath, Nice video and well done to help me what to buy.
Thank you and glad we could help.
Great video! Pretty much agree with everyone of your points! A little disappointed that I didn't know that you were looking on selling the 12-22... I would have bought it and would have loved to have seen it come back up to Canada! :-)
Thank you, I offered the 12-22 up to a few friends before making it public and it sold through one of them.
A good job On comparison On both machines did a good job You spoke highly on both But we'll catch you on another one You have a good day stay safe stay healthy
Thank you! Both styles have their place and everyone’s situation is different. Honestly if I had to choose just one I’m not sure which I’d go with. Luckily we’ve been blessed to have both.
Very informative. Thanks for all the info. Great content guys. Thanks 😊
You’re welcome and thanks Pete.
Shots fired! Seriously though, I think the Horizontals are a slightly safer option - not that the verticals aren't safe (right Allen Family Firewood), but I just don't trust myself to have my hands as close to the blade as they require. I prefer to just sent it and stand back. One other thing to note - some of the smaller frame splitters allow you to work from the side loading the log lift. This makes it a great option for splitting alone.
Them comercial verticals are plenty safe because they only cycle at half the speed . Big difference between 2 sec an 4 seconds .
Yes they do, I’d say most still operate from the opposite side though. I’d say the horizontal may be slightly safer but when run correctly they’re both reasonably safe.
Phil buster is like a vertical kinetic model. Once you send the wedge it’s sent!
Funny to see this today, Mike Morgan had a 400 pound white oak round he did on his split force.
We did a few over 300lbs a few videos ago on our Axis. It’s definitely easier to slide them than to handle them on a non box wedge horizontal machine. If you look back in our videos we’ve tried them on all of our splitters.
Finally got the right colours on.
But you spelled Colors like a Canadian lol.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors haha
I noticed that when you run the vertical splitter that the logs are sometimes hard to get off the log lift, but if you don't raise it all the way the log will be above the table and slide right over.
Yeah, we often just raise it to level but need to put it all the way up!
If you leave the lift table 1 or 2 degrees below level the edge of the log will slide right over the crack.
I just bought myself a Split Force self propelled with elevator. It works great for my purposes
Gary, I think you’ll love it. The self propelled feature is definitely neat.
I’d love to have a horizontal with a box wedge
The box wedges with pull back arms are nice.
one company makes a vertical splitter with a box wedge. It is a amazing splitter and has a conveyer. Sorry can't remember the name of it
Yes they do, I forgot about that one. It’s an Australian company I believe.
Whitlands Engineering Rex 600
Mike Morgan on outdoor with the Morgan’s is using one for the next little bit I believe it’s called trex looks like a beast of a machine
@@justinauman5438 yea it does.
I’d like to have either one. But for me the Ultra would suit me just fine.
Noel, the Ultra is an awesome machine as well! I have run one before and they’re smooth and fast.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Great explanation of both splitter types!! Hopefully you'll stay out of the doghouse with selling the 12-22!!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Thanks David, I’m trying to redeem myself for 2024! Luckily Rachel really likes having the outdoor boiler so that helps!
Yeah, I am looking at the new Wolfe Ridge VS a bit. For me, I do not need a high volume horizontal unit.
I think a vertical would fit you guys perfectly.
Very informative great job!! The Axis is a good one!👍👍
Thanks Jeremiah! As you know, they’re fun to run.
Can you tow the 12/22 from either end so you can split off the end and just move the splitter to make a row instead of a pile
I have a home made 36" stroke splitter. I put a round steel toboggan under the hitch on mine and when the splits pile up too high it just pushes the splitter forward along the row on rounds. I bet it would work on the 12/22 also.
Yes you can. I’ve done that before with my old blue splitter.
Dale, that’s another option, I’ve pushed my old blue splitter along with the pile behind it.
Great analysis!
Thank you!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Heath have you ever used the Eastonmade 37D? I am considering ordering one as an upgrade to my 22-28 but I am wondering if the diesel fumes become too much when working with the 37D on a still day?
@@somedayzo6 we have not run the 37D much, the only time we were around one much was at the firewood shows and we didn’t notice any issues with the fumes.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Thank you!
Selling the 12-22 is the Best thing you did when you need the money it will help you and Rachel, That was vey well Explained and well Constructed happy new year to both you,
Thank you! I’d have loved to have kept it but the kitchen needs to get done.
I don't do the merry-go-round, I work from the log lift side and in front of the wedge 😂😂. 🧡💙
That is an option as well on some splitters. You also have a conveyor which is a huge asset with the horizontal units especially!
I just don't know - Hard working man
I say get both lol.
way above my grade. Mine does both AND it's 20,000 lb. What happens when you run out of trees? I'm not a Liberal hysteriac, just having fun. Looking forward to your wood boiler vidideo! if it happens.
Wood boiler video should be coming soon. When we run out of trees we’re all in trouble.
For production speed nothing beats a horizontal with an appropriately sized wedge and a conveyor . Vertical seems like a neat accessory for resplitting but only as a #2 splitter . Let's see a 1/3 rd cord challenge with the Axis now . Prove me wrong 😊
See Allen Family Firewood challenge using Buster the vertical. It's pretty fast. You're right though pretty tough
to beat a machine that does multiple splits per stroke.
@@DaleFarrish-Dalbet I subscribe to Allen Family Firewood and I enjoy their channel very much .
You definitely won’t out produce a horizontal machine especially with an elevator. But if working alone with no elevator you’ll be a lot closer in production time from round to being split and stacked into a tote. I see that you’ve already watched Phil run the challenge. Mike from KNL Firewood ran it with his Axis as well.
Dale, that was one of my favorite 1/3rd cord videos.
@@glenngertz9429 Thanks Glenn
hi there good show , john
Thanks John!
Me ?? Vertical !!
Cut n split for 40 years !!!
Wood in bucket n slide on !! Make the size I want !!🧐🇨🇱
The vertical is a great option for sure!
👍Happy new year.
Thanks Will. Happy New Year!
The Axis is the best in my opinion to replace the box store.. with the Axis you can quadruple your production and make the bank to purchase a small Processor... then off to the big leagues.. the Axis is the most versatile machine from boiler, to stove, to high value smoker and recreational burning, to kindling.. no other can do so much...
I agree, it is a very versatile machine and money maker for a lot of people.
Great video. Like they say different strokes for different folks lol.
For sure! Thank you.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors they are both great machines
@@mountaintopoutdoors yes they are.
I like the vertical but they all off load to the left I have always off loaded to the right . But that’s just me very nice units .
I wonder if you could get one built flipped. I know some manufacturers will somewhat customize a unit for you. Daniel Atkins had his horizontal Wolf Ridge built opposite of how they’re usually built.
I would have sold the all wood and keep the 12-22 box wedge says it all.
I may end up with a box wedge machine one day but I’d want one with a pull back arm. My 12-22 was an early model.
Great video. How many takes did this take?? Enquiring minds want to know. That was a lot of talking in a short amount of time.
Jay, I’m an expert talker lol. I think I only stopped twice during this. We were on a time crunch as the guy who was buying the 12-22 showed up with in 5 minutes of our wrap up.
Comes down to quality over quantity for me. That's why I chose the axis. Sell half as much make 2x the money cuz the quality.
Definitely able to produce higher quality with the verticals imo. Quality over Quantity is a great description.
When I had my builtrite splitter I would let it pile up in front of splitter and the splitter would move backwards
I used to do that with my old splitter as well.
That’s awesome 😊
Thanks!
“A recipe for loosing fingers…”. 😂😂😂.
For sure!
I split by myself, so auto cycle is splitting while i grab next round. Can't do that on vertical.
True, I hadn’t thought about autocycle.
“Hopefully” I say that a lot too 😂
Right! Hopefully it stops raining soon.
Buy both! LOL 😊 Shalom/gw
For sure! Thanks.
You better get that kitchen done then you can go onto the next big project
That’s the goal! Less fun but definitely needs to happen.
Easy,
For more than 130 cords per year, the horizontal,
For less than 140 cords per year the axis.
To some extent, space, man power, other equipment, and product offerings come in to play as well though.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors also depends on what other equipment you have. The vertical with a 3 way wedge and a rounds table like mine would be pretty fast.
Poor Rachel didn’t get her kitchen yet , keep watching in the 2024 for the NEW KITCHEN. Heath you got to stop 🛑 talking and start put out more firewood 🪵 and bundles. Us U tube are watching for a new KITCHEN 😊.
I know Leonard, I failed but I won’t let it happen again. The 12-22 is sold and we’re making some progress on kitchen plans.
I like the vertical splitter. They are just so expensive
They are expensive but you don’t see them available on the used market very often which shows most people seem to be happy with them.
Directional mic?
It flipped on me a time or 2.
I'm building a platform for my tractor to split from
You’ll love it.
What awesome timing! I've been on phone with Gerry at Eastonmade, and with Wolfridge both today, just before you posted this awesome video. I have the Eastonmade 22/28 with Dual Log Lifts, 36" extended tray, 5 way Boxwedge, and tall 4 way. This is to much of a splitter for one person. "Merry Go Round" as you mentioned is 100% truth. You need 2 or more people, as the Eastonmade is a BEAST, an Awesome machine. My 22/28 is now for sale as of yesterday, as I'm going with Vertical- from either Wolfridge or Eastonmade. My Horizontal makes to much waste for me to let split wood flow directly into IBC totes. A vertical will mostly eliminate this. So again, GREAT video, great timing, as my 22/28 is gonna be leaving soon as well, for a new unit. I love your very informative videos!
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I’ve been a huge fan of Easton made, but I have to tell you that Wolfridge’s new VS 17. I honestly believe is a better machine with the improvements that they have made the ignition is electric start which is located at the front. The throttle control is located at the front. The log lift goes up completely vertical, and if you decide to get it with the conveyor, it is hydraulically operated as well as the log lift. No need for belts or hand cranking.
@@WoodysRTBFirewood Yep, put down an early deposit today. Now I gotta sell this extremely large overkill BEAST of a machine that I have :),, Eastonmade 22/28
Thanks Jerry, the splitter you have is a beast and definitely can keep a few people busy! Working alone though I think you’ll be really happy with a vertical machine. I’m sure you’ll sell the 22/28 in no time, they don’t hit the used market too often.
Both are nice splitters, the WR does have some nice features for sure.
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Thanks!
I'm so informed now that I think having both is the only option. Now we need a video on how you talk your wife into it.
Both is definitely the best option if you can swing it! My method is to surprise her with the new splitters! You start by getting pseudo permission, say I’m going to look at this splitter. If she says okay that’s basically permission because why look at it if you aren’t going to buy it if it checks out. Then hit her with the surprise new splitter when it arrives. “No guarantees on the effectiveness of this plan lol”
The best marriage advice out there is:
"It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"😂
@@mattnicol8882 for sure.
Horizontal then you can come help me out. My splitter is down and I am trying not to lose my farm. Joe The Grower in NY
It’s definitely a great option. Have you checked for any rentals in your area. I don’t get to NY much.
How bout hydraulic vs kinetic. Horizontal.
The only kinetic I’ve run was anPower King and it was not worth the steel it was built out of. I’d love to run a super split one day but haven’t yet.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors good info, thanks, keep up the great videos!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors what do you know about a DK2 40 ton Kinetic?
Save your back with a vertical machine. You don't get a do-over with your back.
For sure! You only get 1.
Anybody worried about a mess should stay away from firewood!!
True, it is messy for sure.
Neither. Keep your money in the USA.
Their are plenty of vertical and horizontal splitters made right here in the USA. Guessing you didn’t watch the video, it’s not about make or model but style of splitter.
Heath there take off because off PHIL in Allen family firewood 🪵. There get to see OLD BUSTER fill a 2 1/2 cords into PHIL NN trailer in the fastest time on U tube . Hey at why Rachel got one from EASTONMADE because she the fastest lady on U tube for splitting firewood in the wood 🪵 yard . 😊
Phil definitely cranks the wood through Ol Buster!