GEOSynths - Synth Show Reviews - Behringer Odyssey
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2019
- So I jumped at the Pre-Order on Thomann and a couple of weeks later, here it is...The Behringer Odyssey.
It's more of an Overview and my opinion, having owned the Korg Version before...It's a great Synth and that price...wow!
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0:46 - Introduction.
1:12 - Build & Features.
2:53 - Basics.
5:17 - Simple Bass.
6:59 - Ring Modulator.
7:50 - Filters.
10:50 - Drive.
12:04 - FX.
13:15 - Arp.
15:15 - Detune and Pitch FX.
17:22 - Example 1 - Sample & Hold.
17:48 - Example 2 - Ring Modulated.
18:24 - Example 3 - Duophonic with FX.
18:58 - Example 4 - Oscillator Sync.
19:30 - Example 5 - "Hollow Lead".
19:41 - Example 6 - "Evil B*stard".
20:14 - Sequencer.
CAN YOU tell me please what is the most enjoyable synth u play?
Back for another watch of this - wow, what a great review video! You are really good at these Jamie! I know you said that you weren't really into doing them, but you do them so well! You show the synth at it's best but don't shy away from it's failings either. A fabulous job!
Haha! Can't blame you!
excellent training and tour of the Odyssey. I've been so happy with it and it has soooo much to offer.
Great review. Nice to hear it used musically rather than just blips and beeps that so many synth reviews contain. I’m very tempted by this synth but it is big and I’ll have to see what space I’ve got when my new studio is up and running. Thank you.
Thanks for the good overview. My Odyssey is arriving in a couple of days. :)
Of all the Odyssey videos, yours sounds the best and you get great tone the quickest
Great to see you on the Odyssey again. I loved your tutorials on the Korg Odyssey so I expected your Behringer Odyssey run through to be very good and I'm not disappointed. I'm definitely getting one
Yeah, it's so much better than the Korg, bigger scale, the LED's really are useful and no crappy little keys...and at half the price I pad for thr Korg more or less. You won't be dissapointed.
I’ve got one on the way now. Can’t wait! How you gotten yours yet?
@@HotStrange in the end I decided to stick with my Korg Odyssey. If I really need to sequence it I can do that via my Akai MPC500 and run it through a Lexicon MPX100 effects unit. Both add ons are superior to what the Behringer has to offer and I have them already just sitting down not being used. I do think the full size Behringer is really nice as a modern update but I'm good with my Korg version which has the official ARP logo on it. I know you will have a lot of fun with your BARP
Great presentation Jamie. Keep them coming.
Just want to say thank you for your videos! I am a guitar player and learned alot from your videos. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing how you use the MS-20 clone coming up...
Nice sound...
My compliments for your review
Greets from Rome
I’m really enjoying your video review of the Behringer Odyssey. Very very informative! It has such awesome analog lead and bass sounds. I’ve always wanted an Odyssey ever since hearing how wonderfully George Duke and Tom Coster (from Santana) made them sound. I can’t wait to get one. It’s going to pair great with my Behringer Poly D. Both offer so much band for the buck! Thanks again for such a great video. Much respect from Queens, NY!!
Fab review mate, thanks
Mine arrives tomorrow!!! I can't wait. Almost everyone in the USA has a wait list through mid-December.
Great Review, sounds excellent.
Just got mine in the mail a couple days ago and I absolutely love it. Built like a tank and way bigger than I thought it would be. The key action isn’t my favorite, but at least they’re full size. The built in effects are gorgeous.
It's a beast!! Thanks Jamie!! Rix:)
Great review!
The saw wave on ARP synths has always been my favorite synth sound. Sure Moogs sounded smoooooooth but ARP had such character.
I think the Arps sound sweeter in the mix than Moogs, but I recognize it is just my opinion. Moogs might be great for thick bass sounds, but I prefer the sounds of Arps, Roland’s and Korgs because they leave space for other instruments without massive EQ.
Great Job : just unboxed today . Now learning how too setup Head Room , with Mackie PA System with Sub . Dialing these two takes time and good cables !
Best demo yet.. Sounds amazing.
A month ago I bought the wavestate and the Behr Odyssey
They are both tons of fun
This video is great and certainly helped my decisions
Thanks
Wasn't planning on getting one of these, but yeah you've sold me on one Jamie!
Haha...It really is good, you'll love it and can imagine your Tracks using it in the Basslines! :)
I think I've seen every Behringer Odyssey demo on here, but I really love this one. I placed my pre-order the very day it became available in the States, a few weeks ago. I'm afraid I'm gonna have to wait another month or so though; I don't think they're shipping here yet. Anyway, great presentation.
Well it's been 3 years since your comment... how has the Odyssey worked out for you? I'm considering one now myself
Sounds good, and I like the price. I like how it's bigger than then Karp also..
This thing sounds great and seems to be user friendly for programming patches...thanks Jamie for the review.
Great revaiew as always Jamie. If you are planning on making a few sounds to demo, any chance of some classic Billy Currie / Ultravox leads?
I don't understand why at the end of the video portamento makes no effect, if it's at the top?
how dos this compare to the novation bass station 2? (aside from it the BS2 focuses on mainly bass, obviously, but which delivers better quality sound? i believe they're only $100 apart.)
Does the sequencer output notes from the MIDI out, or is it only key presses? How's the MIDI implementation in general? Any CCs output or accepted?
Nice. Subbed and liked. Just few questions. Can you tempo sync the Odyssey straight up with the MIDI, or from the other inputs in the back? Or Can you for example plug it on external sequencer like the Korg SQ 1 and use tempo sync through the SQ 1s sync jack? My current setup is pretty much built around Korg Monologue, Korg Minilogue XD and Korg Electribe Sampler, which all are tempo synced via the sync jakcs.
Thanks this review was very informative, not necessarily cause I’m interested in owning one but because I’ve frankly never understood the fuss around ARP mono synths - this gave a great introduction to their sonic capabilities.
Can I please ask you for dimensions of Behringer Odyssey? Its not stated in any of the stores, or in the technical info!
Great job. Learned some things about mine.
Since you’ve got experience with both the Korg and the Behringer. Did you notice a difference in sound?
What a great review in every way.
Amazing Review.. I really had my sights on the MS-1 but after this review, there’s no question which one sounds better.. The Odyssey and the RD-8 will make a powerful combination.. Now, if only Behringer would get their S**T together...
Excellent. I really want one of those babies.
The Behringer definitely seems to win on features, but which one would you say sounds better overall?
Sounds really really nice. Will probably pick up one of these before the 2600. Depends on price I suppose. Cannot wait for Behringer's awesome looking 2500 modules! Man, they went all out on Arp clones: Odyssey, 2600, Cat (i'm counting it), 2500... very cool
I notice a bit of gain noise when my Odyssey's FX section is turned on. I was curious if you have noticed this as well.
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@21:00 almost 'time out for fun'😁
Would you recommend the odyssey or the wavestate?
My odyssey is always making an annoying popping sound when pressing the key. Also after recording, it is clearly hearable when you turn the oscillators volume down, then it's only making the popping noice.. always being affected by speed and filter when replaying a record. otherwise on every key press :/
can anybody help please?
I figured it out! This problem did cost me days: There was a cable or at least adapter plugged into my external audio input. Incredible....
How does the speed of the envelopes compare to the Korg? I tried the Korg version once and was disappointed by how slow the attack seemed even at its fastest setting but the envelope attack sounds fairly decent here e.g. at 19:32
This is just about the fattest, most beautiful sound I ve heard this year! This, the Moog One and the Moog Matriarch! I love it. I have a preorder in on the Wavestate, and the more I listen to it, the thinner it sounds. I think I’ll cancel that preorder and buy one of these!
Just curious...which one did you get ?!?
wavestate versus odyssey ?? ahahah both are incredible. i have wavestation and wavestate, the thing is : wavestation was hard to program (well not hard but long, wavestate... is really a nightmare IMO (anyway i created a lot of patches already with it..)
21:41 nice save
I'd like to thank you for producing this video. Before I watched it I would not have taken this instrument for serious. For me this was just another clone of the original. Now my opinion has completely changed.
This is a perfect instrument for live performances (the illuminated faders are very welcome). Behringer has added some well-thought-out features, although the effects could have been more on the high-end.
Great review many thanks. Glad i cancelled the ms 1 and preordered this. Quite a beast.
The MS-1 is good, but this, is just a different level of quality! You chose well.
Just got one it’s great
Great vid. Question, does the Arp/sequencer have a latch mode?
yes
It has been driving me crazy on how to get my BOdyssey to be fully monophonic instead of duophonic. Thanks for the cv in to cv out patch cable suggestion!
And that works!
There's no native switch between mono/duophonic? Need to use a cable? Seems odd.
Korg version was the same. The original was as well.
@@impurfekt Ah gotcha. Would've been nice to have a dedicated switch though.
Well this made me think about the next purchase. If you could buy only this or MS01 what would get?
I'd go with the Odyssey. Easily. It's got more of everything. Keep in mind, the synths sound totally different.
Yeah, I agree with impurfekt, the Odyssey does so much more.
this
This, certainly.
Thanks, everyone. Odyssey it is. Very impressed!
Anybody compared this to the Arturia 2600v?
How do you think this compare to the korg version and does this have all the 3 filters also like the korg? I haven't checked the entire video yet, don't have time right now but would appreciate a response, thanks for the video.
MessiahGaming1080p It does have the 3 different filters.
@@RayyMusik Nice, have you compared the 2 synths and come to a personal conclusion on which sounds best?
MessiahGaming1080p I don‘t yet own any of the Odysseys, but based on dozens of YT videos I don‘t think the Korg sounds better in any way. It‘s more expensive and has those nasty mini keys though. So I just ordered the Behringer.
@@RayyMusik I see, thanks for the response, was just curious how well they nailed it since the Korg was very close, only missing some of that old school grit and noise that we love so much, also a bit more bass but that can be added with other synths so not a deal breaker if the character is there.
MessiahGaming1080p If you want grit and bass I recommend to entirely watch this video with a good pair of headphones. Behringer rules! ;)
What do we say kids................THANK YOU ULI BEHRINGER! Don't forget about Jamie..........THANK YOU JAMIE!
Would be interesting if you could make a synthesizer masterclass... :)
Thanks, I've done lots of Sound Design Tutorials, just check my older videos.
Patches Book, please!! Your Prophet6 and System8 patches are the best, so far.
Hi, the VCA gain produces a hold note, is it right? Or a deffect? Mine just got here and I am in doubt. Thanks.
@@Zemael That’s normal, if you think about it, VCA hold is keeping the Amp open continuously and you’ll still be able to change notes, but the envelope won’t have any effect. So, to have it play and turn off when you release a key, you need to use the envelope and the envelope amount/eg amount.
@@Zemael skip to 4:54 in the video and copy the settings and keep vca hold off.
Wow, now it just adds a bigger sound. Thank you. The way I was using it , it was just holding the bass note. Or last note. Thank you. Very happy it is not a deffect. Look at it on the internet, pleople are confused about it. Even on Korg ones. Maybe you voud do just a short video about it. I loved this synth. Thank you again.
@GEOSynths (James) have you had the chance to check the PolyD out?
Thx for your videos!
Hi, unfortunately I've not as yet, though it does sound great I must admit. Maybe i'll grab one in the furture :)
GEOSynths hey, thx for replying. Ok, would be great to learn your thoughts about it. One question regarding the Odyssey midi implementation, is it me or there are few issues when connected to LogicX? i.e. a loop with the notes, whenever I’m trying to record an arpeggios the notes will stop ( jammed ), another one is when recording midi parts at time the notes are just randomly placed and with different values of the actual ones I’ve played. Thanks again! A.
@@djalexia Sadly my Odyssey has had to go back for repair. Have you connected up the Behringer Tool (software) and checked if Local Off is active? For direct connection, you want Local to be turned off.
GEOSynths yes, I have the synth tool installed and checked the clock out making sure was turned off, still having some issues. Contacted Behringer tech support but they seem have no clue nor answers, despite the screen recording that I’ve provided to them for checking out these misbehavior of the Odyssey when connected to LogicX. My feeling is that the synth tool and in general the midi implementation must be revised and work on it. I have no issues with my Moog Grandmother nor with the Subsequent 37, both synths are working flawlessly when used via usb in a DAW.
GEOSynths btw, sorry to hear your odyssey is out for repair. Hope mine will last... lol! I just got nit 4 days ago.
Awesome synth
@GEOSynths - do you still have this synth? I know you had to send it back for repair but was wondering about the long term reliability before I finally buy one 😊
Yeah, I still have it, turns out it was the internal power supply, but it was the early model where the LED's were all White, you should be good now.
@@GEOSynths That is excellent, many thanks for the prompt reply
Any idea how to switch off LOCAL?
I think you have to use the Behringer Synth Tool.
I have the Neutron and can't find a benefit to having the Odyssey too. Both duo phonic, both 3340 VCO, filters, envelopes are the same. Neutron just gives you crazy patching abilities. The sliders are nice though. Thanks for the excellent walk through GEOSynths.
Doesn't the Neutron only have 1 filter type?
@@fortheloveofnoise it has HP, LP and BP
Thanks. Don’t have the space for the Odyssey.
@@THEREALDATALORD Yes but still one LP filter. The Odyssey has 3 different LP filters (the filter type people use the most often) but don't get me wrong, I am getting a Neutron instead of the Odyssey....it's more my cup of tea.
The filters are definitely not the same. The Neutrons filter is its main drawback and the reason why I rarely use mine. Fortunately it's semi modular so you can easily route other filters into Neutron's signal path, if you're so inclined.
I just ordered a Reon Driftbox R as I’m into the off the wall extremes of late, this looks very interesting for what it is, I do prefer sliders like on my SH 7 & Deepmind
UFO LFO Great synth, had mine about 3 years or more, got it as part of the Roland release. It’s a portal to hell.
@@lewdchew Yeah I've been messing with it a bit it's got a lot of hair and horns on it.
Really love this. Any chance that you may do something similar with the Poly D? I still don't quite understand about signal flow between the different sections of the synth. Thank you!
I don’t have one unfortunately
@@GEOSynths go get one. Lol! Just kidding. I love the way you make it all so palatable. Always been my dream to get my hands on these classics and now Behringer have made it within the reach of mere mortals like myself. Just starting out with the Poly D and I hope it doesn't stop here.
Thanks for the play through, Jamie. The effects being mono is kind of disappointing...don't know why they would limit it like that. Other than that the Odyssey sounds great. I like the multiple filters.
Could you even have them stereo since it has a mono output?
@@fortheloveofnoise That's really the problem in that if you go to the effort to put an fx system in, why not just add stereo out for a buck or two and make it much better.
@@SynthientSound It would just be pseudo stereo out. For a real L and R stereo out they would need double the oscilators and filters, one for each output.
@@fortheloveofnoise Yes, that is why I just referred to the fx being stereo. Keep the actual Odyssey as it is but have stereo fx. :) Same as my OB-6, Juno 106, etc.
@@SynthientSound Would the effects being stereo even make a difference if the synth is mono out?
Don't have the Odyssey, but I was really impressed with the weight of my MS-1
maybe balance levels of your voice and the synth. when you play its like "bang!"
I find the balance between Jamie’s voice and the synth are perfect. I can hear his voice fine, and am not blown out of the water when the synth voice comes in. Too many videos do not pay closer attention to their voice and instrument levels. Great job Sir!
love that Evil B*stard sound!
This video explains all the things the manual fails to tell.
Starting at the 14:00 mark and up I was sold on this machine lol
**starts to play 'Popcorn' then decides against it**
I got the VC340 and I am very impressed by Behringer. Now... I just want to explode my credit card... getting more and more...
16:50 or so is when I died and came back
Brilliant I doaht a dehringer odyssey 3 days ago I payed £355 witch is great for a synth that big
I am a big fan of early Numan stuff and like to make my own demo's of his stuff. to this end I have a Fostex 4 track, a Voyager Minimoog Old School and a Karp keyboard. I also have the Behringer Model D, to get the grittier sounds of the Moog that the Voyager have removed from their models. This though is the first keyboard from Behringer that I think will be a flop! The Odyssey is such a niche market and the Karp connected to a master keyboard as mine is, such a better product. Sequencer? I have a dark time. Effects Roland analogue chorus and delay. Mr Uli has not paid a penny to ARP. KORG has. So I am going to wait for the Pro One or the CS80. For the extra couple of centimetres, for me it's not worth it.
Why don't they make poly synths that sound this good? I love the sounds of the Matriarch, Erebus, Poly D, Sub 37. Poly's just don't seem to get that beautiful warmth and dirt whilst still sounding smooth.
Made In Machines you’ve never heard a prophet?
Fabulous!!
OMG, that thing is heavier than a MODX7 (8.1 vs. 7.4 kg)! Sold anyway.
Kim Diez 16 pounds :)
And how many ounces are 16 pounds? 😁
I really fancied one of these but there is no way of saving your patches and no presets I believe.
There is: it's called getting a piece of paper and writing them down. :)
@@benanderson89 Had to be said.
The best berhinger synth in my opinion
Mono effects ? Why Behringer, why ???
@Boofsquad no u
anyone else have a constant drone issue or is this me being a twit? no the lfo repeat is not on
yep i watched this again- i am a twit
Make sure the VCA Gain is all the way down (Fader next to the Drive Switch, top right.
@@GEOSynths Lol! even though i had watched your viedo twice before the synth arrived, and then after a day making drones- i thought it was a low tinnitus at first.
Yes treat VCA gain with respect. Thanks for your videos. And yes i did turn it off and on again ;-)
I think you are giving Nick over at Sonic State a good run for the money;). Brilliant
Well, crap. Just when you think you’ve got it beat, the GAS is back, full attack. Thanks a lot.
Haha...Glad I could help :)
I have too much of everything but I need this too
I know, I'm the same :)
THUNDERRRR
4:59 Popcorn!?
Well done, you're the first to get it :)
@@GEOSynths The edit gave it away ;)
ive got original 1972 white odyssey it sounds amazin ill get 1 soon better than korg odyssey
I'm torn between this or the deepmind 12d.
Love these old or old like synths.
Great video.
Deepmind is more versatile.
@@GEOSynths
True
I have the deepmind 6
I want to add the 12d for 18 voices. It's 600
To the odyssey's 500.
I love the ody's old school tones.
(I'm an old guy)
The deepmind are just so sweet.
Yeah I think I will just go dm 12d.
And maybe the ody later.
I have a Korg minilogue and I can get old school there but it does not have the powerful tone of the ody.
(Edited for fat fingers and the damnable auto correct.)
@@kevingamache1512 Yeah, I made lots of patches for the Deepmind, in fact I came up with a w ay of thickening the sound for the 6 voice, but the 12 is a great machine. Yes, the Arp does have a sound to itself, but you can't go wrong with the DM12.
@@GEOSynths
Maybe you could do a video for the dm6 thickening????
Please.
@@kevingamache1512 here you go ruclips.net/video/XBGuuxz0aFc/видео.html
The Arp that it's copying didn't have a metal body, it was made from plastic back in the good old days. They weigh enough as it is.
Blue LEDs....... WHY BERINGER?!!! WHYYYYYYY!!!
They're white mate, just couldn't be bothered to set the white balance on 4 Cameras :)
@@GEOSynths Oooohhh!! Fair enough m8 xD At least white makes sense seeing as the original Odyssey shifters had white markings too.
And you can alter the brightness.. Or turn them off altogether.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 I think only the first batch has white LEDs - subsequent batches are colour coded
@@daithibailey You are correct.
Still, I would rather have the Neutron....nice synth though.
my washing machine is also made of metal.
The Barp blows the Karp out of the water. Behringer is destroying Korg in the cheap synths world
Well, they still have the module version; which is a great synth. But yeah, absolutely no reason to get their keyboard version now. Mini-keys need to die in my opinion.
I really love my Karp, tbh I don't think I'd change for this one
How hard can it be to offer stereo FX this day in age...pretty basic thing
I think the FX probably are, but summed to mono as there's only a mono outpu, like the original.
I'm not a player, so i still prefer korg module). Behringer may sound as good as korg, but it is a bit ugly, looks like frankenstein with cropped faceplate. Behringer needs a good designer for sure.
77advanced you should check out Edgar Winter and the ARP2600 for Frankenstein
This is a clone, and it looks nearly identical to the original.
@@nimbvs7233 actually it is not. They cropped faceplate sides, faders now too close to the edges, annecessary mono fx with rotary knobs looks strange. Original was a beautiful synth in terms of design, korg is close, but behringer is like a chinese iphone clone with a tv antena. At least it sound good).
That's cause you're young but Behringer's audience are old farts 50+.
@Boofsquad Big man comments again.
best review most of vids garbage
I guess for this reason sinths are not for me. They all sound the same to me. I love the idea of carrying something compact, but the fact they all have the same basic bassy sounds, makes them boring to me.