These shoes are great on the pedals, just not great for on the ground during technical rock dabs or hike-a-bike because they are very stiff with narrow heel tread and the compound is not squishy. Very adjustable lacing mechanism for upper & lower foot sections. Fine for XC, but when I ride tech stuff with foot dabs and walking, I like my flat pedals with five-ten Free Rider Pros for rubber, sneaker feel.
Typically in XC racing MTB shoes on a hike a bike or run up, I use the balls of my feet and favor using toe spikes to grip (FYI the sidi toe spikes are compatable with the front tread plate - they replace the screws that secure it.) May want to try them, might find you use the heel lugs less.
Thanks for the info. As I write this I'm wearing the shoes now:-) I stopped to take a photograph. I've always had toe spikes on my prior shoes. I used Shimano for a long time... they came with spikes in the box. I'm surprised Sidi doesn't give you the toe spikes for the $500+ list price tag on these shoes. I'll have to look into getting the spikes. Good to know!
@@biketothetop I was surprised they didn't provide them myself, I think toe spikes have fallen out of favor with the XC crowd, and were never popular with the gravel set. XC have been dumbed down a little IMHO, (they call the stuff I used to race on back in the 90's "trail" riding and say you need a 5" travel bike...) and gravel guys simply don't ride as technical as trail riders do... unless you are mad lad like me. Cyclo x racers still use them, but they are so niche that maybe sidi stopped providing them... Competitive cyclist has them in stock, 6.99 for a set of 4. And they also carry replacement lug sole plates (it's the same plate set as for the draco) Anyway, an XC racing shoe is what I prefer to run - on the road and in the dirt. One shoe - one style of cleat... many bikes.
@@stinkyfungus Yeah, these feel very much like a road shoe. I feel pretty concerned I'm scratching and damaging the carbon soles anytime I go on anything other than soft dirt. It makes sense most people wouldn't want to hike-a-bike in these shoes. I suppose my creature of habit, old school custom of having carbon soles was too dominant when went to buy these shoes. They fit well, but I think they're just no comparison (in terms of having some functional soles) to the Shimano shoes I used for many years. I may seriously consider putting flat pedals on my trail bike that I use these shoes on because they give me so much more confidence for the technical downhill riding... much safer on flats. Although I do like riding the smoother trails with the lightweight carbon trail bike for a pure cardio workout. I could switch the pedals back and forth depending on what ride I do that day. In my younger years I always enjoyed technical climbing on rocks and rough Terrain. It was imperative to have clipless pedals in order to gain more torque from pulling up. I have a Specialized Turbo Levo eMTB that I now enjoy much more on the tech stuff. Running flat pedals on the Levo is of no concern when it comes to climbing. Thanks for the additional purchasing information on the toe spikes.
Sorry, I can't answer... "if the shoes fit, wear them"... just make sure you try them before you buy them. Otherwise, make sure the seller will permit a return if not used. These shoes are great on the pedals, just not great for on the ground during technical rock dabs or hike-a-bike because they are very stiff with narrow heel tread and the compound is not squishy. Very adjustable lacing mechanism for upper & lower foot sections. Fine for XC, but when I ride tech stuff with foot dabs and walking, I like my flat pedals with five-ten Free Rider Pros for rubber, sneaker feel.
@@coeurdelion6582 the shoes I bought are size 47. That is a size that I've purchased in the past. This gets into a complicated discussion around conversion and what's the right size for the activity. I just saw numerous websites and articles on these aspects. I looked at my SIDI box and it says EUR 47, US 12. I was surprised that the 12 was appropriate, because I tend to think of my feet as size 12.5 US. I don't measure my feet because at the end of the day, how they feel with the socks I use is what matters to me. There was a time when I used to actually wear two pairs of socks for cycling (very thin liner sock inside) as spillover logic from when I used to wear mountaineering boots. I did this so I would minimize friction on my feet and never get blisters. My prior pair of clip-in shoes were sized accordingly for myself, but when I purchased these shoes, I committed to wearing only a thin pair of socks so I would not be stuck in this unecessary rut. Now I don't have to own twice as many types of socks :-) I purchased a dozen pair of socks at the time of getting these shoes so that I would have a matched pair to work for the lifetime of these shoes. Read this: www.bespokecycling.com/blog/the-importance-of-correct-fit-for-cycling-shoes Like I said, if the shoe fits wear it. It's hard to save money on shoes from buying online.
When buying sidis buy your normal shoes size. Do not follow their advice which is a half or full size bigger. IF you have wide feet maybe then but for normals stay your normal size. They will be tight for a bit but sidi's stretch fairly quickly. Within a few weeks.
I hage two pairs of these. The screws for the sole replacement system are absolute crap. I had to take my shoes to my local LBS to get the screws drilled out as they were turning with the bolts on the inisde. Sidi really needs to come up with a better system of attaching their replaceable soles as their current system really sucks ass. I really like sidi's. Really like them. but this SRS system is not fit for purose. I should not have to glue on another SRS after 1.5 years of use due to the screws not unscrewing and then me having to drill them out. I paid 250 pound sterling. This makes me want to look at other shoes now cos the SRS system does not work.
I agree with you when it comes to bad designs and poor customer experience. I wonder why the Fasteners were not retained on the backside. Perhaps the Fasteners were corroded and the torque was transmitted to the internal threaded portion and it dislodged? Did you contact Sidi and ask for help?
@@biketothetop No, i dont feel like being messed around. Good shoes and i will continue to buy sidis in the future as long as they redesign thsi srs system. If they dont then thsi will be my last 2 i buy. And i have used sidi's since the early 90's.
If I take the pad out the only thing visible is a tan fiber insole that covers everything below it, therefore I can't see the carbon. The carbon is only visible from the exterior of the shoe. In the vicinity of the cleats, there's a metal insert. Either you have a different version of the shoe design or you have a different shoe design all together. What model shoe do you have? When did you buy it?
biketothetop it’s the same model as yours but black n red sole n padding inside mind doesn’t have that teeth thing on tongue n I got them from bikecloset.com
@@GrayFox-xd9ww okay so the next step here is regardless of whether we have the same shoe or not, you need to figure out whether you have a manufacturer's defect or it's possible the screws were over-torqued during assy or some other force could have cracked the carbon. Have you used these shoes very much? The final analysis falls in the lap of the manufacturer's warranty where the store that you purchase them at if they have a willingness to exchange them. What do you wish me to do for you?
biketothetop maybe over tighten bolts on cleats. These shoes r good I love them I feel all the power going through the pedals. I wore them twice. You take a look at the site? I e mailed the site he asked me to send pics I did hopefully they’re willing to exchange them
@@GrayFox-xd9ww I looked at seller's website, bikecloset.com. i read warranty policy for used products (it is their choice what to do)... start with them... good luck, be nice! The price on this shoe is deeply discounted. I wonder why? There is always a reason why things are cheap. Perhaps these shoes are defective when new? This guy sells factory 2nd quality? Do some research. I have no idea what the situation is, but I'm curious why they are so cheap and why yours are cracked on BOTH shoes. Having BOTH cracked is very suspicious! Root cause is not likely from use. More likely user error: cleat installation or Mfgr defect/seller scam.
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These shoes are great on the pedals, just not great for on the ground during technical rock dabs or hike-a-bike because they are very stiff with narrow heel tread and the compound is not squishy. Very adjustable lacing mechanism for upper & lower foot sections. Fine for XC, but when I ride tech stuff with foot dabs and walking, I like my flat pedals with five-ten Free Rider Pros for rubber, sneaker feel.
Typically in XC racing MTB shoes on a hike a bike or run up, I use the balls of my feet and favor using toe spikes to grip (FYI the sidi toe spikes are compatable with the front tread plate - they replace the screws that secure it.)
May want to try them, might find you use the heel lugs less.
Thanks for the info.
As I write this I'm wearing the shoes now:-) I stopped to take a photograph. I've always had toe spikes on my prior shoes. I used Shimano for a long time... they came with spikes in the box. I'm surprised Sidi doesn't give you the toe spikes for the $500+ list price tag on these shoes.
I'll have to look into getting the spikes. Good to know!
@@biketothetop
I was surprised they didn't provide them myself, I think toe spikes have fallen out of favor with the XC crowd, and were never popular with the gravel set.
XC have been dumbed down a little IMHO, (they call the stuff I used to race on back in the 90's "trail" riding and say you need a 5" travel bike...) and gravel guys simply don't ride as technical as trail riders do... unless you are mad lad like me.
Cyclo x racers still use them, but they are so niche that maybe sidi stopped providing them...
Competitive cyclist has them in stock, 6.99 for a set of 4. And they also carry replacement lug sole plates (it's the same plate set as for the draco)
Anyway, an XC racing shoe is what I prefer to run - on the road and in the dirt. One shoe - one style of cleat... many bikes.
@@stinkyfungus
Yeah, these feel very much like a road shoe. I feel pretty concerned I'm scratching and damaging the carbon soles anytime I go on anything other than soft dirt.
It makes sense most people wouldn't want to hike-a-bike in these shoes. I suppose my creature of habit, old school custom of having carbon soles was too dominant when went to buy these shoes. They fit well, but I think they're just no comparison (in terms of having some functional soles) to the Shimano shoes I used for many years. I may seriously consider putting flat pedals on my trail bike that I use these shoes on because they give me so much more confidence for the technical downhill riding... much safer on flats.
Although I do like riding the smoother trails with the lightweight carbon trail bike for a pure cardio workout.
I could switch the pedals back and forth depending on what ride I do that day. In my younger years I always enjoyed technical climbing on rocks and rough Terrain. It was imperative to have clipless pedals in order to gain more torque from pulling up. I have a Specialized Turbo Levo eMTB that I now enjoy much more on the tech stuff. Running flat pedals on the Levo is of no concern when it comes to climbing.
Thanks for the additional purchasing information on the toe spikes.
Just bought a pair. Love them.
Glad you like the shoes. You should do a video review and make sure you drink some coffee first!
biketothetop
Coffee is a must! Here in Texas it’s not to keep you warm either.
how is the fit? Are they true to fit? I usually wear 43EU, should i buy 43EU?
@@coeurdelion6582
I would say so. I went with my shoe size. It’s perfect.
how is the fit? Are they true to fit? I usually wear 43EU, should i buy 43EU? My feet length at 27.5cm and 27.7cm.
Sorry, I can't answer... "if the shoes fit, wear them"... just make sure you try them before you buy them. Otherwise, make sure the seller will permit a return if not used. These shoes are great on the pedals, just not great for on the ground during technical rock dabs or hike-a-bike because they are very stiff with narrow heel tread and the compound is not squishy. Very adjustable lacing mechanism for upper & lower foot sections. Fine for XC, but when I ride tech stuff with foot dabs and walking, I like my flat pedals with five-ten Free Rider Pros for rubber, sneaker feel.
@@biketothetop for the size you purchased, was it an exact fit?
@@coeurdelion6582 the shoes I bought are size 47. That is a size that I've purchased in the past. This gets into a complicated discussion around conversion and what's the right size for the activity. I just saw numerous websites and articles on these aspects. I looked at my SIDI box and it says EUR 47, US 12. I was surprised that the 12 was appropriate, because I tend to think of my feet as size 12.5 US. I don't measure my feet because at the end of the day, how they feel with the socks I use is what matters to me.
There was a time when I used to actually wear two pairs of socks for cycling (very thin liner sock inside) as spillover logic from when I used to wear mountaineering boots. I did this so I would minimize friction on my feet and never get blisters. My prior pair of clip-in shoes were sized accordingly for myself, but when I purchased these shoes, I committed to wearing only a thin pair of socks so I would not be stuck in this unecessary rut. Now I don't have to own twice as many types of socks :-) I purchased a dozen pair of socks at the time of getting these shoes so that I would have a matched pair to work for the lifetime of these shoes. Read this:
www.bespokecycling.com/blog/the-importance-of-correct-fit-for-cycling-shoes
Like I said, if the shoe fits wear it. It's hard to save money on shoes from buying online.
Buy your normal size. Do not follow Sidi guidance which states you buy 1/2 size bigger.
When buying sidis buy your normal shoes size. Do not follow their advice which is a half or full size bigger. IF you have wide feet maybe then but for normals stay your normal size. They will be tight for a bit but sidi's stretch fairly quickly. Within a few weeks.
thanks
You're welcome... also ckeck Five-Ten flat pedal shoes review, they're great too.
I hage two pairs of these. The screws for the sole replacement system are absolute crap. I had to take my shoes to my local LBS to get the screws drilled out as they were turning with the bolts on the inisde. Sidi really needs to come up with a better system of attaching their replaceable soles as their current system really sucks ass. I really like sidi's. Really like them. but this SRS system is not fit for purose. I should not have to glue on another SRS after 1.5 years of use due to the screws not unscrewing and then me having to drill them out. I paid 250 pound sterling. This makes me want to look at other shoes now cos the SRS system does not work.
I agree with you when it comes to bad designs and poor customer experience.
I wonder why the Fasteners were not retained on the backside. Perhaps the Fasteners were corroded and the torque was transmitted to the internal threaded portion and it dislodged?
Did you contact Sidi and ask for help?
@@biketothetop No, i dont feel like being messed around. Good shoes and i will continue to buy sidis in the future as long as they redesign thsi srs system. If they dont then thsi will be my last 2 i buy. And i have used sidi's since the early 90's.
Hey man I took the padding out my shoes there’s a crack in both shoes where the cleats are. Are urs like that
If I take the pad out the only thing visible is a tan fiber insole that covers everything below it, therefore I can't see the carbon. The carbon is only visible from the exterior of the shoe. In the vicinity of the cleats, there's a metal insert. Either you have a different version of the shoe design or you have a different shoe design all together. What model shoe do you have? When did you buy it?
biketothetop it’s the same model as yours but black n red sole n padding inside mind doesn’t have that teeth thing on tongue n I got them from bikecloset.com
@@GrayFox-xd9ww okay so the next step here is regardless of whether we have the same shoe or not, you need to figure out whether you have a manufacturer's defect or it's possible the screws were over-torqued during assy or some other force could have cracked the carbon. Have you used these shoes very much? The final analysis falls in the lap of the manufacturer's warranty where the store that you purchase them at if they have a willingness to exchange them. What do you wish me to do for you?
biketothetop maybe over tighten bolts on cleats. These shoes r good I love them I feel all the power going through the pedals. I wore them twice. You take a look at the site? I e mailed the site he asked me to send pics I did hopefully they’re willing to exchange them
@@GrayFox-xd9ww I looked at seller's website, bikecloset.com. i read warranty policy for used products (it is their choice what to do)... start with them... good luck, be nice! The price on this shoe is deeply discounted. I wonder why? There is always a reason why things are cheap. Perhaps these shoes are defective when new? This guy sells factory 2nd quality? Do some research. I have no idea what the situation is, but I'm curious why they are so cheap and why yours are cracked on BOTH shoes. Having BOTH cracked is very suspicious! Root cause is not likely from use. More likely user error: cleat installation or Mfgr defect/seller scam.
Just do something with your nails before next movie.... 🤮
You must paint your’s. 😂