I’d like current construction equipment used within a city to be fueled by a bio-based fuel, preferably a recycled or reclaimed source. We have millions of heavy diesel equipment within feet or blocks of people breathing their exhaust but we can create a home-grown, local industry to power these otherwise heavy polluters.
@@ttopero Bio-based fuel still causes toxic exhaust, though. I think Oslo shows that battery-electric works fine. No need to waste agricultural land growing biofuel. Even better: plug-in electric construction equipment.
@@ttopero With the notable exception of biogas (because it captures methane and burns it off as the less potent carbon dioxide), biofuels are terrible greenwashing solutions. In Sweden we're basically burning our forests (and even importing from other countries despite our very large logging industry) and patting ourselves on the back for how "green" we are. The Co2 released from biofuels is just as potent as the Co2 released from fossil fuels. Yes, it comes from a shorter term source so it can be rebound in a matter of about a hundred years as opposed to millions of years with fossil fuels, but we don't have those hundred years to play with, we're running out of time, and in the meantime it means even more Co2 in the atmosphere.
@@sIXXIsDesigns The thing with hydrogen fuel cells, as I'm sure you know, is that electrolysis, which is the only environmentally friendly way of making hydrogen, and the grid-to-wheel efficiency is something like 30%. It should be noted that fuel cells also require rare earth metals such as platinum to produce, while new battery chemistries are moving away from the rare earth metals to things like sodium batteries.
As someone living in Oslo I would say the really noticeable difference is in the reduction of noise pollution. Even in the suburbs the noise of a summer weekend used to be the noise of lawn mowers, now it is a lot more quieter that almost everyone has electric autonomous mowers.
@@freethink This has been around for years, for about as long as autonomous vacuum cleaners. But really we should stop mowing the lawns, it's terrible for the environment regardless of whether it's done with electric or fossil lawn mowers.
This is a very common sight in Norway. It's for people who love cross country skiing and want to keep practicing their sport even when there is no snow to ski on.
I have a hybrid. Love it. Some of the things not mentioned about EVs is that 99% of the time I charge at home. No more waiting in line at gas stations. I rarely drive to a gas station except on long trips. My gas bill is no longer $250/month. Technology is just going to get better. Look how long it took to get the automobile to where it is now.
Currently, electricity prices are low to encourage people to take up EVs. When enough number of people go electric, the price of electricity will match that of gas. And regarding the future of cars, we are all going to be driving golf cars with computer screens attached to them.
@@alileevili totally dont agree with the notion that electricity prices will inevitably match gas prices in the future. The price of electricity and gas is influenced by numerous complex factors, including supply and demand dynamics, energy source availability, geopolitical developments, and technological advancements. While lowering electricity prices may encourage EV adoption, it is not a guarantee that these prices will eventually align with gas prices. Additionally, predicting that all cars will become simplistic "golf cars with computer screens attached to them" oversimplifies the diverse and evolving nature of the automotive industry. The future of transportation is likely to encompass a wide range of vehicle types, sizes, and features to meet various needs and preferences. Achieving a sustainable future requires a multifaceted approach that incorporates renewable energy, energy efficiency, urban planning, and a careful balance of transportation options.
@@alileevil Why in the world do you think that electricity will match gas? We use electricity for more things than gas currently and it is a fraction of the cost. It will always be this way its basically physics. It is just a more efficient process for what you are doing. The only reason we have gas cars at all is because batteries technology was piss poor. That is no longer the case as battery technology has vastly improved thus far and all of this because we have made significant progress in the creation of robust alternative energy sources and the efficiency of scale.
Freethink: Next time you want to count, just count any numberplates that start with E (EL/EV... etc). All types of vehicles that are electric, bus, motorcycles and cars, have numberplates that starts with E 👍🏻 BTW, we've already swapped out all the city buses (red ones) to electric ones earlier this year 💪
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet. Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
I thought it was funny that the guy was amazed he was in the countryside 10 minutes outside the city. That's the entire world when you don't suburbanize and sprawl cities out. You have the city and quickly you have the countryside. It's closer and makes a tons more sense. Even Latin America is this way...
Norway doesn't have massive dumping sites those EVs have been all thrown into, though. Unlike China that just built them for the stats, they're actually using them.
China has 200x more people, so it's not surprising. The number of EVs in China I found is 14.1 million. If Norway would have that many, people would have in average 3 cars, which wouldn't be good
@@micah6635 "The China Show" here on youtube involves 2 hosts who have spent over a decade in China, had even worked on the propaganda side until they became disillusioned. LOT of stuff going on in China/on their walled-off internet, that if investors all fully understood would make them run as fast as they can away from China's economy.
In California where I live, the prevalence of electric cars is quite comparable, but that's where the similarities end. The absence of early investments in clean energy solutions from both public and private sectors has created a stark contrast in our public transit and infrastructure. What truly astounds me is the capability of construction vehicles to plug directly into a DC power supply. This type of infrastructure, however, has yet to see significant investment in my area. The electric charging infrastructure for consumer transport has been predominantly established by just one private company. Despite corporations spending exorbitant amounts to alter consumer preferences, the infrastructure necessary for a sustainable future, as indicated here, relies on more than just our daily commutes.
We are always a bit more chaotic in the U.S., but it's not all bad news. For example, last year on April 30, 2022 California for the first time ran on 100% clean energy with solar making up the largest slice. Electricity generation and transmission is massive infrastructure and we are already making incredible progress towards a cleaner more robust energy grid.
It's shameful that some cities in CA are still allowing purchases of FF buses, etc. for years into the future. So many ignorant people in charge of companies. I do see more EVs each week, but it's changing way too slowly for me as my breathing suffers every time I have to go out into the toxic air (and the EPA is not even measuring most of the toxins). I wish we had a law banning idling of trucks in parking lots.
Bruh, Larry David driving his Prius in a 20 million people metropolis can't compare to Mrs Svenson driving her electric car to work (between her 2 year maternal leaves). I know you made it clear in your post that the two are ridiculosly uncomparable...but at the same time I can feel the LA smugness through your post. And hey, I'm not judging, if I lived n the cultural centre of the western world, I would most definetly feel some type of way. I live in Amsterdam (an imigrant, or as they say when your skin is of an European shade: an expat haha and I fee some type of way, make sure to mention it to everyone back home in southern europe...we're all hypocrites and I've lived through enough dramas to pretend I'm better than anyone else, I especially grew in the last few years a disdain for smug euro urbanites that think they're somewhat better than americans. I went on a big a$$ tangent now, but my point is you can't compare or try to implement these northern euro policies easily in America
I think the ferry charging for the Fanø Færge in Esbjerg, Denmark also is very smart, it made to line up with the cables when it docks so it can just attach the charger directly without having to drag cables around.
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet. Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
One of the countries with the highest traffic safety in the world, I was irritated with that comment. Not just Oslo, but the rest of the country has generally good drivers, superior to almost all countries.
Love your videos. As a Philadelphian who loves this city I appreciate your videos a lot, those about philadelphia AND those about other cities. Thank you for promoting public transportation.
Thank you for your effort in putting these videos together! Neighborhood Electric Vehicles (NEVs) is a betting way to describe the small vehicles that are similar in scale to what’s used on the golf course. The words we use to describe things are as important as the things themselves when trying to shift people’s perceptions & behaviors. Please consider this in your speech patterns. It doesn’t mean being PC, but it does mean being conscientious about communicating effectively.
So I'm very left wing, cyclist, environmentalist, pro-trans, states my pronouns, LGBT-ally, done drag, anti-racism, pro immigration, vaccinated, pay my taxes and so should corporations kinda guy... but when you asked me to watch how I refer to vehicles... Ah, Jeez, Dude... that's just... I think I need to eat steak tartar and fire a gun just to... cleanse myself.... have you no shame!
@@georgesears2916 Nope! This has a bigger scale impact on society than the individual efforts, not that they don’t have an important impact to the person you’re addressing. Keep up the great work but don’t limit yourself either-that’s what the opposition wants. Don’t consider it a job, just who you are becoming-a thoughtful, considerate & engaged person who doesn’t want to short change our efforts.
@@miguelsalas4852 it’s not about being PC, however you define it. It’s about how we think, behave & create the environment we want to live & hopefully thrive in. Your words convey your values & your values convey how you expend your wealth & resources. What do your values & behaviors say you desire to live in?
Really interesting video, and I appreciate how honest it was about everything. Giving praise where praise is due, while not sugarcoating safety concerns, practical problems, or the fact that all the funding for the infrastructure is from selling oil to be used for emissions. While all this probably technically results in a net increase in emissions(because everything is funded by oil, and electric adds a middleman that reduces efficiency), it's good to have someone doing wide-scale testing like this to help solve a lot of the engineering and supply chain problems that come with trying to be 100% emission free. Hopefully we can see more progression in reducing emissions through more increased production of clean energy throughout the world(instead of just burning coal to power electric cars lol), and then this technology and processes could become more widespread and impactful.
electrification is important, but a huge part of the success of cities like Oslow is the huge push towards bicycles and public transit as the go-to transport for commuters and citizens to minimise car useage road maintenance is reduced because bikes weigh less, bringing down the materials needed to keep road surfaces maintained and reducing emissions through that
for the section where you counted electric cars, an easy way to tell in norway is to look at the license plate. if it starts with an "E" it's electric.
This is a fantastic video. I'm saving this for later to show friends. I've not been impressed with the channel for a while, but you were saving for something big. I look forward to more like this. Great format, great editing, loved the realness of taking opportunities in the moment like the truck dumping aggregate. It felt very real and grounded, but had a focus and narrative and surprised me with lots of new information.
Could you imagine living in a city with good public transit including micro mobility with all sorts of vehicles shares including micro EVs for shipping, that aren't price gouging you and are respected by it's citizens? My American brain literally can't fathom it.
What’s utterly bizarre is the wealth Norway has derived from oil (and continues to do so). Kudos to the Norwegian government for setting an extraordinary example, but the big picture is a bit weird.
Petroleum industry will still exist and thrive in materials, chemicals, fertilizers and such. It will just experience a fall in demand for one of its largest markets - fuels. Going through and adjustment like any other industry, needs to redefine itself with the new market realities. Norwegian petroleum companies will become leaders in the new market working with their government to redefine their role in global supply/demand. Continuing to produce the best of the beneficial petroleum products while adjusting to the loss of their most environmentally damaging product. At least in one country the petroleum industry may be acting with sustainability, logic and social responsibility. Just got to get the rest of the world on board.
For the net amount of barrels and coal exported, the Carbon Border Tax should have a fair inclusion of special Tax for net Oil Export to level out the playing field. Going completely electric and then charging developing nations with Carbon Border tax is literally a case of financial bullying and peer pressure. This kind of a situation will always limit the emission reduction and general development of developing nations as the natiions now have to allot more resources to cut emissions which would normally be put into infrastructure development. I understand the video was to set an example and spread awareness but this is a truth that cannot be mentioned in the video but needs to put in front by someone.
those charging times are mind blowing. seriously, it makes no sense how low they are. it's incredibly efficient on top of that. i believe that there are many cities in developed countries that could adopt these practices at scale. it's a no brainer
@@ractmobecause the US is controlled by a self-serving, childish, bought government that has politicians' pockets priorities above those of the country & its citizens.
For the record, the quality of this production is extraordinary, While that is not the the main focus of the video, I couldn't help but notice it. From the typography, to the fonts type, Lower Thirds, angles, colours, sound, so perfect. Thanks a lot for the background work into this video. I hope my production can meet such quality someday.
@@kaantax8666 kaantax, I'm not watching the video again to find all the mistakes, but there are many. . This was in the news just yesterday: "Sweden just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scrapping its green energy targets. In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.” Svantesson said wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements. Instead, she said, the Swedish government is shifting back to nuclear power and has scrapped its goal of a “100 percent renewable energy” supply to meet the nation’s energy requirement, as reported by Slay." . So nice to see common sense prevail in Sweden! Also nice to see Sweden allow things that Muslims don't like. Freedom, not tyranny in having only one central power source that can easily be turned against you, is what we want.
@grimaffiliations3671 You are woefully naive. Not a temper tantrum, just an observation. I'm curious, though. If all of the lithium, and the accompanying issues with collecting it, all took place in Norway, do you think they'd still do it? That also raises the question of the pile of cash raised from petroleum sales being used for this. The hypocrisy is delicious. Go ahead and have your tantrum now.
phenomenal report! I did not know that this was going on in Oslo - and the naysayers claim this just can't be done. This MUST become the model for all cities, even in other oil producing countries - like the US!
@@willy4170 lead acid batteries that are basically infinitely recycable? you realize how large the automotive battery recycling industry is in the usa? heck every traditional car battery you see was probably in another car before
Oil didn't make Norway rich, they made themselves rich. Plenty of other countries with incredible natural resources, but with worst poverty levels in the world, pollution etc
It's really great to see every aspect of Machinery going Electric. But I have few queries 1. How are they managing the Electricity production 2. What are the support schemes or policies setup by the govt there 3. How are they managing the E-Waste and other waste streams too 4. Do the companies producing all the Electric Machines import any materials or other parts from other countries.
1. The same as before, just scaled up a bit. Mix of fuels and green generation solutions. 2. Reduce incentives for fuels based solutions, move the money over to green solutions. 3. Not relevant yet as this is new so most green solutions are still in active service. But once green solutions get old enough to hit disposal in volume it will be treated the same as fuel based solutions. Funnel old items into a reuse and recycling supply chain. 4. Yes of course the exact same as fuel based solutions. Though the new generation solutions present an opportunity to improve supply chains, as long as citizens and consumers keep the pressure up to continue improvements in environmental stewardship and social responsibility.
I am so jealous of the narrator of this video : I am big believer in electric mobility and would love to have the opportunity to go in Oslo and test all electric transportation as he did ;)…
Glad to hear! We actually did some episodes around the topic a few years ago and are bringing it back with a new format 🙂. ruclips.net/video/pUbHGI-kHsU/видео.html
I watch this with a heavy heart as I live next door to Alberta Canada that has an oil wealth far greater than Norway. The province is making little to almost no attempt to electrify or drastically reduce fossil fuel consumption. They have also let most of the oil wealth run away to far off investors pockets and the province carries a heavy debt. Norway has 1.4 trillion in its wealth fund
Next door to Alberta, do you live in BC? Which investors ran away with the oil wealth? Correct me if I'm wrong but Canada's oil wealth is irrelevant if crude products cannot reach the markets. In fact, out of all the oil producing nations, Canada is the only one that cannot supply itself with oil. From an energy trading standpoint, Alberta has no investment value with or without green energy.
@@wyw201 Canada produces more oil than it consumes. It goes to the USA via pipelines. It is less expensive for the east to import oil and refine it there.
@@morninboy Exactly, Canada don't have the infrastructure to move the bulk of its oil to either coastline and to refineries in Eastern Canada. Hence, the only market it can tap into (with profitable spreads) is the US market. I used to be a commodities trader, Alberta used to the laughing stock among us. Canada will never have the capability to ship its oil to Asia and Europe. Whenever there is a new pipeline project in Canada, we make money betting against it!
Beklageligvis ikke. The fire does not need oxygen to make a chemical reaction. The ferries use fresh water from a supply and goes over to salt water when the tank is emptied. The captain
drilling oil and selling to other countries, then turning around and acting like "oh we are green, look ev" is like selling cocaine to people and then building a drug rehabilitation centre with that profit.
Look at what the UK did with their share of the exact same oil wealth - just handed it all to rich people as tax breaks. No sovereign wealth fund for a rainy day, no investment in the fabric of the country, just a crazy period of fire selling public assets (Railways, Telecom, Gas, Electricity) and a boom and bust property cycle.
@@breadnewbie6326 They export roughly 2 million barrels of crude oil every single day...their entire population is just 5 million. How is this doing good for the environment, this is just green washing.
The US sells a lot more oil than Norway and spends a lot less of the money earned from it on Green tech. Once we are fully green we can cut back on oil. Another thing is, our oil and gas is actually greener overall due to electrification, its not like the demand will go down if we stop, it will just give opec more power and prices will rise.
The electric excavator connected to the grid by a glorified extension cord reminds me of a story about my uncle by marriage. We visited them about 1960 in the Erie PA area. He worked for the electric company and they gave him a electric lawn mower to demonstrate the technology in his neighborhood. He said the neighbors all stopped to watch when he mowed the yard. He suspected they were waiting for him to mow over the cord.
That is smart use of oil profits, specially when they are even electrifying the process of extraction / production. Other countries are going to use oil for certain time irrespective of who produces it. No one can force other country to switch immediately. Why let someone else take profits when you can use them better yourself and control the method of production making it clean and safe.
Yes the lady at 7:14 is right. I think that Oxygen needs to be thought of as a commodity. A commodity in that there are finite amounts of it produced every year. This is a great video, thank you for posting.
For those who live with the condition bought about by the burning of fossil fuel through asthma, Oxygen is already a commodity! I take a Inhaler and its manufactured by the same companies who make oil base products, and once used, the Inhaler is recycled as an energy source, in other words burn at an Incinerator! and so the cycle continues as more and more people join the asthma community and learn of this fact.
The issue is not oxygen, sure, producing more can be somewhat beneficial; it will take many centuries to even noticeably decrease the oxygen in the atmosphere. The issue is carbon dioxide, air pollutants and other things which have an uncomparable huge impact compared to the almost negligible impact of percentage-wise tiny reduction in oxygen each year. Oxygen is mostly a concern in the distant future, if it even comes to that, considering how we are starting to apply solutions to combat global warming, etcetera.
Batteries will be recycled, unlike stuff that is burned. It only has to be mined once, because it is not being burned and thrown into the air. As more mining equipment goes electric, etc. it just improves, unlike the old ways.
@@leanliferA video with sound would be of use. I wonder whether it's tire noise, or a low design quality of moving parts, or just the noise of dropping dirt in, etc.? But good to know.
Another city most wouldn't think is going electric is Delhi, recently decided that they would stop procuring CNG Buses (which is already cleaner then diesel ones) and will only buy electric buses, Metro and Railways is already 100% electric, Taxi's (which again was mostly CNG as sale of diesel taxis has already been banned a long ago) city wouldn't issue permits to new one's that are not electric, we also have something similar to paxter called e-rickshaws that is being used for last mile connectivity and for transporting goods, there's already plan to ban diesel cars by 2027 in whole country, two wheelers are already getting rolled out as electric each and every day but we do lack in electric construction vehicles.
Electricity is everywhere to be harvested. And I mean everywhere. Even our body has an electrical system, works chemically. Pottasium and salt as in a sports drink. @@SamRichardson1990
Dead batteries on electric bikes and scooters is a pain. Incredibly slow speed limits on them is also a pain. The issue is that drunk people use them and crash so then the city regulates the top speed to like 5 miles per hour. This triples the costs to get from point a to point b because it takes longer.
But I think the politicans may have forgotten to give green light for building out more hydropower that is sufficient to cover everything which shall be electrified with green energy. We cannot cover the need for stable power with a lot of windmills which is not nice for the nature neither by the building or the sight in untouched nature. Modern river propellers can give a lot of energy without most negative options.
@@mospher9253 I mean they can both go I guess.Are we gonna argue about a subjective opinion of which one of the two countries being ahead of their time?
Like abusing other 3rd world countries by depending on child labor to mine the lithium for the batteries? Makes perfect LOGICAL sense to use the weak under developed countries for slaves. Got it. FLASHING LIGHTS and fast moving video scenes blind you into thinking ITS ALL RAINBOWS AND UTOPIA?
its more sustainable to run a vehicle to the ground than replacing a perfectly fine vehicle with an EV. Also making all those batteries produce tons of CO2 and raise ethical concerns (slave cobalt mining ex.) What will they do with all those batteries once theyve run their course?
Your anti battery disinformation is like 5 years old now - all debunked - all of it - batteries last a long time and are recyclable, new chemistry's don't use cobalt, cobalt is used in gasoline refining too, primary cobalt mining (at scale - which EV's need) does not use hand labour - you are probably thinking of Tantalum mining for mobile phones - most of the anti EV meme's use pictures of Tantalum mining, not cobalt from primary copper mine tailings, CO2 emissions for batteries depend on where the battery is made, and when, Mr. Bean's article was using old data, and so on and so forth. Google this stuff. Look for "EV myths debunked" and read up, your head is full of disinformation from a desperate industry tying to avoid stranding their trillion dollar emission assets.
@@MintyJazz3 we have to be honest about the impacts of keeping going with gasoline / petrol, the original comment said "its more sustainable to run a (gasoline) vehicle to the ground" - this statement is false, and they then justified that with a bunch more anti EV misinformation that is also not true. Mining of anything can be a problem, and that includes Oil, fracking for Gas, Lithium for personal electronics, Cobalt for gasoline and batteries in all devices, not just cars, platinum for hydrogen fuel cells, copper for just about everything, Tantalum and a collection of other minerals for mobile phones and so on and so forth. I don't disagree with any of that, but we need to frame ALL products in context. The big issue with only focusing on EV batteries (ignoring cellphones, laptops, power tools etc,. etc, etc.) is it implies the status quo of extracting, refining and burning gasoline is A-OK. And that is not true. Not even slightly. Yes, making an EV has an impact, but no, it is not worse than continuing to run a gasoline car into the ground for another decade, and the impacts of EV manufacturing are being taking seriously, and made better every year. Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) is a cobalt free battery chemistry in use in some EVs already, Sodium Ion (salt) is a contender to replace Lithium, which is actually abundant, and mined in western countries like Australia - hopefully without exploitation. I hope you hold Oil and Gas to the same high standards that all propulsion methods should be measured against, and when you do that critically, with data, EVs come out ahead, even with the worst combinations of sourcing, and come out very far ahead with green manufacturing of the battery, and cobalt free chemistry's. Supply chain abuses are not okay, but sadly they are not specific to EVs - the scale of EVs actually creates more funding to fix these problems, namely switching cobalt away from tailings of copper mining, which is where these abuses tend to happen more, as it's outside commercial (machinery) scale mining. (euphemistically called 'artisinal' mining - rather than the more accurate 'exploitative')
@@MintyJazz3 what about palladium in the catalyser inside the gas car, sodium battery exist and lithium is using less water and pollution to be extract, and their is lithium every where
@@brushlessmotoringwhat's so lame about the money argument is that literally every business stands to profit off of their technology, not just oil. So saying oil is just in it for the money, is like saying EV's are just in it for the money. I think your political posturing is how you determine that. Because dirty air, no matter how trivial, is demonized in favor of make believe technology, that no real engineer would ever accept. BTW, if you look at the official statistics, the co2 concentrations are 0.04% of the atmosphere at ground level, where its at its thickest, meaning overall it's actually far less than even that. The amount we've changed it, according to the data, is only 0.01% over 150 years. Again, that's only relative to where we measure it, it's not indicative of the actual percentage. Its literally 1/10,000. A penny on the $100.00. It's totally trivial, and nothing more than a new political narrative that greases the wheels of capitalism. But in all honesty, the technology isn't even real. There's no way to make a battery that does not use its power as it uses its charge. There's also no way to make Horsepower in a motor. So even if you could make a battery that was good enough, the motor would run worse than a diesel. Unless 2 + 2 = 5. But if that's the case, then why would any of this even need to exist at all? This isn't exactly of forum of experts. It's a political echo chamber, disguised as a technological newsletter.
Electric vehicules are individualistic technologies. It's still impossible to make the tires, the roads, the mining, the processing, and everything that created these individual vehicules without a lot of oil and emissions. When we recognize this, and look at different technologies to do the same thing (transport), we see that public solutions have the lowest emission per capita. Like trains, trams, metros, etc. The reason it matters is because we DON'T have enough cobalt, lithium, copper, and many more minerals needed to apply this electrification model everywhere. Not even close. So, if we can't do it everywhere, if our natural ecosystems are already destroyed by all this industrial activity, and we have to reduce that (not just emissions of CO2), then we need to look at options that use LESS materials, energy and resources. And that means public transport, along with walking, biking, and other options that do not need a global supply chain to put create.
3 years ago the Quebec government bought a used fully electric ferry from Italy, but I guess this doesn't count for this FREETHINK video man. It had been in service a number of years.Proper research is a must to maintain credibility.
I spoke of this to someone here in America, about an all electronic future, and it's crazy because they couldn't even begin to imagine. I told them about the uber bikes and uber scooters (and their tesla deal for a traditional Über) and they were stunned ay how much w3 ALREADY have (and don't have)
This makes sense in Norway, where all electricity comes from hydroelectric plants. It doesn't make sense in America, where all the extra electricity for all these new electrical appliances would only come from burning coal.
@@mareksykora779 That's not at all true. Coal power as a percentage of the energy mix has been declining for years now. All new capacity either primarily comes from wind, solar, or natural gas.
@@olamilekanakala7542 No. We want to stop coal power plants, but we can't because we have high electricity consumption. If we replace Teslas with gasoline cars, then all the electricity saved will mean a reduction in production in precisely those unwanted coal-fired power plants. So the real effect of driving a Tesla is 100 percent in burnt coal. And it wouldn't burn if we put the Tesla in a junkyard.
@@mareksykora779 we don’t want to. We are. It is uneconomical to build new coal in the US. The last significant plant built was in 2013. And we’ve shut down several this past decade, with another 33 or so slated for decommission by 2030. Coal is simply circling the drain. If anyone wants to build new fossil fuels it’s going to be gas. And regardless, it’s still better for the environment to drive an electric car with fossil fueled electricity than it is to drive an ICE vehicle.
@@olamilekanakala7542 You'd be shutting down coal plants much faster if you were ditching Teslas. Teslas keep them going. And so it will be in the next fifteen years. Therefore, the real effect of driving a Tesla in the US is in burnt coal.
I think a mix of electric, oil, hydrogen and other methods should power the future. When we centralize any industry it will lead to imbalanced systems powering greedy massive corporations. Diversifying is the key to our future.
Oil should be eradicated due to it harmful greenhouse gases emission. You can easily divide the energy sector into multiple branch to avoid imbalance power. All can be done without involving carbon emissions in the process
Americans always think that there must be a lof of power outages (maybe from own experiences?). My guess is, that on avereage it does not even happen once a year.
More comments: Should we call a place with electric chargers "gas stations" still? You are correct when you say that extinguishing a battery fire is hard, but it sounded like only electric boats could catch fire, which is defnetly false. For cars I know, that the probability of a fire is twenty times higher on fossil fuel cars compared to evs.
Great to see this wonderful video - the real difference can come to earth only when big countries do such things...but there things are not moving much...
Loved your presentation, said many things including your passion for greener industry. Wish you all the success in the world. Passion and determination is a formula for success.
The one barrier to stopping mass adoption of electric vehicles is price. More government incentives are needed. There should be no taxes on new energy vehicles. But some governments raise money from oil taxes. These governments should tax the oil companies.
I'm still mixed on this we have to electrify everything movement. It's one thing if its directly connected to the grid, but I don't find batteries to be environment friendly. Mining, production and disposal of batteries is extremely toxic and resource (time, energy, raw materials - cobalt) intensive.
We get this question a lot and it's totally understandable! First, Norway gets 99% of its power from emissions-free sources - 91.5% Hydropower, 7.5% wind: www.statista.com/statistics/1025497/distribution-of-electricity-production-in-norway-by-source/ . While not every country is that clean, EVs still have a number of environmental benefits relative to gas-fueled ones. - While mining and production of current batteries indeed has environmental harms, so does the mining and production of oil: oil spills, fires, the need to use and dispose of industrial chemicals, etc. Similarly, the extraction of fossil fuels itself requires a lot of energy just like the mining of battery materials. While both oil and lithium-ion batteries can be environmentally harmful to produce, EVs avoid the double hit of gas vehicles having a dirty process to generate their fuel and then that fuel itself also polluting when used. -Happily, battery designs that use less toxic and safer to obtain materials are proliferating: We actually went to Argonne National Laboratory for a video that gets into this issue and progress on it: ruclips.net/video/KMP0x0DpxSY/видео.html -Electric grids are increasingly powered by low-carbon sources. While decades ago virtually all electricity was from fossil fuels, today over a third of the world's electricity comes from low-carbon sources (renewables, nuclear, hydro) and it's increasing every year. So while 100% of the fuel a gas car burns today or in 10 years will generate emissions, powering an EV requires a lower fraction today (depending on the area, of course) - and over time, will be cleaner and cleaner to charge. -EVs are much more efficient than gas-powered cars. When you burn fuel in a car, about 80% of the energy is lost through heat or in other ways. By comparison, when you charge an EV battery about 2/3 of the energy is used to make the car actually move and operate. So, perhaps surprisingly, even if you power an EV with electricity from a coal-fired plant, it still requires a lot fewer emissions to drive the same distance that a gas car does. www.motortrend.com/news/evs-more-efficient-than-internal-combustion-engines/ Hope this helps clarify things!
What about carbon neutral fuels like biodiesel, biogas, wood gas. What about cobalt slaves? What about the upgrading of all the pre-existing electric infrastructure and lack of energy storage if your not blessed with 24-7 hydro power everywere?That is what electrify everything movement misses. Heck gasification even makes carbon negative fuel. Construction projects in the cities are fine to plug into but what if you need to fix a power outage or build a new suburb or other infrastructure spanning under developed and wide spread areas like in the US soon to be rural areas, 3rd world countries, India, ect where there is no pre existing electric power yet? The point of construction is to construct what isn’t already there or is damaged. I guess you can store charged batteries but carbon neutral feul is better for emissions anyway and that reminds me. Those electric construction equipments are puny not exactly heavy duty either because of battery limitations . Good for them but being born in a country with that much hydro and wind funded By natural domestic oil springs blessings at that small scale nation’s city is not exactly replicable 100% silver bullet.
Sodium Batteries is a cool technology that should replace lithium in about 5-10 years but they are just as limited as batteries are as an energy carrying medium. Sodium ion batteries are cheaper then lithium ion but empty fuel containers of steel or plastic are even easier to manufacture. Sodium is pretty energy dense for a battery but battery pale in comparison to even the worst fuels like firewood let alone diesel or methanol. Building a electric car that runs on sodium ion batteries sounds good for the environment but that good deed is nothing compared to making renewable bio/carbon neutral fuels like methanol or bio diesels that can run in pre-existing cars (the 99% on the road that need to get clean asap). Using what we already have: that’s what carbon neutral allows. Zero emissions is battery tech companies pretending to be the silver bullet when they are not. Most the time they should pantograph plugged in to not even use a big battery and that tech could be retrofitted on carbon neutral fuel cars too. The lack of energy density makes Storying renewable energy in most places insanely costly both dollars and space wise which is a disqualifier for serious sized construction equipment or things like freight shipping or passenger air lines. Sure if you have unlimited oil dollars funding you and absurd hydro electric everywhere you transend battery as a storage medium since you generate constantly but for most places and pourpouses (unless you go nuclear) that is not the case.
Electric is really advancing at a staggering pace. I'm sure EVs alone will be more efficient than conventional gas engines in the not too distant future.
I agree but we need carbon free electricity to power them. Solar and wind are important but carbon free energy is not possible without nuclear power. If we had not been deceived by the anti-nuclear hippies we would have no global warming, electric cars snd energy too cheap to meter. 😢
Even if charged by dirtier electrical grids, EVs do not put noxious chemicals into the air next to people walking or running or riding, and reduced noise is valuable.
@@georgesears2916 A large portion of the public perception against nuclear power is irrational and unscientific, but the nuclear industry has no one to blame but itself. You'd be hard pressed to find an industry (besides tobacco) more lacking in transparency and engaged in more deception, coverups, and underhanded lobbying than the nuclear industry. And today the nuclear industry is neck deep in spreading disinformation about wind and solar.
I am big on nuclear myself,agreed. But I also know that renewables just need storage and some types or energy storage doesnt even need batteries.@@georgesears2916
I've read through about the first 50 comments to confirm what I suspected. Most of the people commenting here are utterly clueless about the foundation of Oslo's electrification. People here are saying, "See? Why can't the US do this?" and stuff like that. Well, if the rest of the world ever does completely electrify, it won't be the way the Norwegians did. At only one point of the video, in a throwaway sentence, was it mentioned that Norway gets its electricity (99.9% of it) from *hydropower* . Norway not only has the second longest coastline in the world, the vast majority of that coastline is home to the world's longest and deepest fjords, which makes the production of hydroelectricity possible. *Literally no other country in the world has the geography to do what Norway has done* , and this one omission from an otherwise quaint video makes it inexcusably deceptive. Shame on you.
@@brians7094 Cheapness is not the only factor in supplying a power grid, however. If Solar energy was 100% free (which it *will* be at some point in the future), it still could not meet all our needs. Hydroelectricity is a far better source (if you're not a salmon).
@@davidmenasco5743 Anyone can say anything they like. I can say that pig farm waste will provide the world with all its energy needs, that doesn't make it true. Your claim is pure bunk, and you obviously do not grasp the physics behind this issue. I'm a huge fan of solar power, and I love the look of the wind turbines in my area. But I know enough about energy to know that the energy storage issue is not even _close_ to being solved yet.
I'm convinced Norway is the peak of society. Its got a strong welfare state and a lot of public ownership which limits how low you can fall, but it also has a robust private sector and many billionaires so there are no limits on how high you can rise.
Curious, what happened to all of the municipal gas powered vehicles? Did the get sold to another country or did they go to landfills???? Just wondering.
Sorry but I can't respect any oil rich nations spending ridiculously huge amount of many on any ambitious projects whether its to build new cities or electrifying. Other nations in the world especially poorer and less developed countries don't have the same privilege and I support these poor countries burning whatever fuel they can to keep their economy afloat and make a living, unless these outrageously rich OIL countries (including the US - the most oil rich country in the world) pay for their decarbonization completely. Otherwise it is just HYPOCRISY, when these rich countries contribute SO MUCH MORE to greenhouse accumulation over the past century.
The reason why Norway can easily transition is because of its geography and population as well, they have a smaller population to provide tons of power they can source from clean energy sources that being hydropower. Which leads to geography, their canals are the largest in the world which is why they can live solely off of hydro indefinitely. There are poor countries out there yes, but a lot of them are corrupt, having been from a poor nation who has received help from rich nations, our governments don't use those funds for its intended purposes.
Right, the US owes the most to poor countries due to putting the most pollution into the atmosphere in history. Europe as a group is also up there. But at current levels of corruption and disinformation, everyone would be lucky even if only the rich countries transitioned rather than nobody.
Norway never fails to impress me with how they manage their oil wealth and prepare for their great weaning off of big oil. It's not about making a nation less vulnerable to climate change but to make it weather global energy price shocks and economic coercion from other countries. Canada can learn a lot from Norway in how to wean itself off of the social economic hard drug that big oil is.
EV engineer here... Where do the batteries come from? Yup, you guessed it. Where did the energy come from to produce those batteries?... Yup, you guessed it. How are they cleaning up the planet and yet accelerating Industrial pollution for this new tech? Yup, you guessed it. Looks real good for the camera although a lot more to do before it all pencils out. Nice to see!
It's the same cliche argument but not even really relevant. You're basically admitting climate change is real and fossil fuels are bad, but that electric isn't any better. That's not the problem with electric vehicles. How do you make a battery that can hold significant power and be charged at home or through regenerative braking? How do you make a battery that doesn't use its power as it uses its charge? How do you make a motor that produces Horsepower? These are all impossible technologies. Basically if you can do these things, you might as well just fly around on a magic carpet. Climate change is basically a virtue signaling charade that has taken center stage and distracted people from the real actual problem with this world, capitalism. It's no wonder it's being orchestrated by the controlled opposition, the democrats. There is no opposition to capitalism. It's just a new scheme to induce new demand, and make more money, and just rebuild everything for profit. It's late stage capitalism, reinventing the wheel because everything's already been developed. So develop it again.
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
How do you think cities should switch off fossil fuels?
I’d like current construction equipment used within a city to be fueled by a bio-based fuel, preferably a recycled or reclaimed source. We have millions of heavy diesel equipment within feet or blocks of people breathing their exhaust but we can create a home-grown, local industry to power these otherwise heavy polluters.
Include low-tech where possible, walkable neighbourhoods etc, so quality of life is improved - trust and friendliness are built.
@@ttopero Bio-based fuel still causes toxic exhaust, though. I think Oslo shows that battery-electric works fine. No need to waste agricultural land growing biofuel.
Even better: plug-in electric construction equipment.
@@ttopero With the notable exception of biogas (because it captures methane and burns it off as the less potent carbon dioxide), biofuels are terrible greenwashing solutions. In Sweden we're basically burning our forests (and even importing from other countries despite our very large logging industry) and patting ourselves on the back for how "green" we are. The Co2 released from biofuels is just as potent as the Co2 released from fossil fuels. Yes, it comes from a shorter term source so it can be rebound in a matter of about a hundred years as opposed to millions of years with fossil fuels, but we don't have those hundred years to play with, we're running out of time, and in the meantime it means even more Co2 in the atmosphere.
@@sIXXIsDesigns The thing with hydrogen fuel cells, as I'm sure you know, is that electrolysis, which is the only environmentally friendly way of making hydrogen, and the grid-to-wheel efficiency is something like 30%. It should be noted that fuel cells also require rare earth metals such as platinum to produce, while new battery chemistries are moving away from the rare earth metals to things like sodium batteries.
As someone living in Oslo I would say the really noticeable difference is in the reduction of noise pollution.
Even in the suburbs the noise of a summer weekend used to be the noise of lawn mowers, now it is a lot more quieter that almost everyone has electric autonomous mowers.
Thanks for chiming in! It's surprising how even in areas people think of as noisy, almost all the noise is from gasoline engines of some kind.
Side note: autonomous electric mowers? How are we just hearing about this now?
@@freethink This has been around for years, for about as long as autonomous vacuum cleaners. But really we should stop mowing the lawns, it's terrible for the environment regardless of whether it's done with electric or fossil lawn mowers.
@@freethink We have had one since 2015.
@@dijikstra8 amen!!
asphalt skiing -- sport of the future
Meh. try rollerblading on ice
Apparently they go off road, too: ruclips.net/video/vOUYzNvjZjk/видео.html
This is a very common sight in Norway. It's for people who love cross country skiing and want to keep practicing their sport even when there is no snow to ski on.
Did this in the 80s in Manitoba. The lack of mountains made X-country skiing popular so these were good for those few months we have without snow.
My high school cross country coach invented these, so it's pretty cool to see them across the world.
I have a hybrid. Love it. Some of the things not mentioned about EVs is that 99% of the time I charge at home. No more waiting in line at gas stations. I rarely drive to a gas station except on long trips. My gas bill is no longer $250/month. Technology is just going to get better. Look how long it took to get the automobile to where it is now.
Toolong
Currently, electricity prices are low to encourage people to take up EVs. When enough number of people go electric, the price of electricity will match that of gas. And regarding the future of cars, we are all going to be driving golf cars with computer screens attached to them.
Yeah, this world is FUKD
@@alileevili totally dont agree with the notion that electricity prices will inevitably match gas prices in the future. The price of electricity and gas is influenced by numerous complex factors, including supply and demand dynamics, energy source availability, geopolitical developments, and technological advancements. While lowering electricity prices may encourage EV adoption, it is not a guarantee that these prices will eventually align with gas prices. Additionally, predicting that all cars will become simplistic "golf cars with computer screens attached to them" oversimplifies the diverse and evolving nature of the automotive industry. The future of transportation is likely to encompass a wide range of vehicle types, sizes, and features to meet various needs and preferences. Achieving a sustainable future requires a multifaceted approach that incorporates renewable energy, energy efficiency, urban planning, and a careful balance of transportation options.
@@alileevil Why in the world do you think that electricity will match gas? We use electricity for more things than gas currently and it is a fraction of the cost. It will always be this way its basically physics. It is just a more efficient process for what you are doing. The only reason we have gas cars at all is because batteries technology was piss poor. That is no longer the case as battery technology has vastly improved thus far and all of this because we have made significant progress in the creation of robust alternative energy sources and the efficiency of scale.
01:45 - Dude... 😳 you did not have to go so hard with the effects so early in the video, but I absolutely love that you did. I applaud you.
02:31 - DUDE... 🤣 STOP IMPRESSING ME!!!
@Claudiu Stian lol we won't make promises we can't keep 😉
Ikr ! The clean roll up with the shine reflection on the road and the unexpected door kinda opening for that man 🤯🤯
Freethink: Next time you want to count, just count any numberplates that start with E (EL/EV... etc). All types of vehicles that are electric, bus, motorcycles and cars, have numberplates that starts with E 👍🏻
BTW, we've already swapped out all the city buses (red ones) to electric ones earlier this year 💪
Thanks for the tip! And that's awesome to hear!
So much quieter, I was super surprised by the construction equipment being so quiet
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet.
Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
I thought it was funny that the guy was amazed he was in the countryside 10 minutes outside the city. That's the entire world when you don't suburbanize and sprawl cities out. You have the city and quickly you have the countryside. It's closer and makes a tons more sense. Even Latin America is this way...
01:58 Fact check - Norway has the most electric vehicles per capita, not overall (for example China has 23x more)
Norway doesn't have massive dumping sites those EVs have been all thrown into, though. Unlike China that just built them for the stats, they're actually using them.
China has 200x more people, so it's not surprising. The number of EVs in China I found is 14.1 million.
If Norway would have that many, people would have in average 3 cars, which wouldn't be good
@@Vaeldarg source?
@@micah6635 "The China Show" here on youtube involves 2 hosts who have spent over a decade in China, had even worked on the propaganda side until they became disillusioned. LOT of stuff going on in China/on their walled-off internet, that if investors all fully understood would make them run as fast as they can away from China's economy.
@@PeterAuto1 that's why they said "per capita"
In California where I live, the prevalence of electric cars is quite comparable, but that's where the similarities end. The absence of early investments in clean energy solutions from both public and private sectors has created a stark contrast in our public transit and infrastructure. What truly astounds me is the capability of construction vehicles to plug directly into a DC power supply. This type of infrastructure, however, has yet to see significant investment in my area. The electric charging infrastructure for consumer transport has been predominantly established by just one private company. Despite corporations spending exorbitant amounts to alter consumer preferences, the infrastructure necessary for a sustainable future, as indicated here, relies on more than just our daily commutes.
We are always a bit more chaotic in the U.S., but it's not all bad news. For example, last year on April 30, 2022 California for the first time ran on 100% clean energy with solar making up the largest slice. Electricity generation and transmission is massive infrastructure and we are already making incredible progress towards a cleaner more robust energy grid.
It's shameful that some cities in CA are still allowing purchases of FF buses, etc. for years into the future. So many ignorant people in charge of companies. I do see more EVs each week, but it's changing way too slowly for me as my breathing suffers every time I have to go out into the toxic air (and the EPA is not even measuring most of the toxins).
I wish we had a law banning idling of trucks in parking lots.
“Clean energy” doesn’t exist. Just as EVs are not saving the planet. And Planet is not in any kind of climate crisis.
Bruh, Larry David driving his Prius in a 20 million people metropolis can't compare to Mrs Svenson driving her electric car to work (between her 2 year maternal leaves). I know you made it clear in your post that the two are ridiculosly uncomparable...but at the same time I can feel the LA smugness through your post. And hey, I'm not judging, if I lived n the cultural centre of the western world, I would most definetly feel some type of way. I live in Amsterdam (an imigrant, or as they say when your skin is of an European shade: an expat haha and I fee some type of way, make sure to mention it to everyone back home in southern europe...we're all hypocrites and I've lived through enough dramas to pretend I'm better than anyone else, I especially grew in the last few years a disdain for smug euro urbanites that think they're somewhat better than americans. I went on a big a$$ tangent now, but my point is you can't compare or try to implement these northern euro policies easily in America
The editing of this video is so cool tho! Great Content, with cool Animations and sound effects. Sweet!
Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
I think the ferry charging for the Fanø Færge in Esbjerg, Denmark also is very smart, it made to line up with the cables when it docks so it can just attach the charger directly without having to drag cables around.
I didn't know Oslo was a separate planet.
Understand that even if all of Europe disappeared tomorrow, that would be only 9% of the world's emissions. All this e-spending at the expense of people makes no sense.
Magnetic charger. A lot of ferry's in Norway have that.
8:22 “Norwegians are horrible drivers”, where?! At least in Oslo, they are the most well-behaved drivers I’ve come across.
One of the countries with the highest traffic safety in the world, I was irritated with that comment. Not just Oslo, but the rest of the country has generally good drivers, superior to almost all countries.
I love how you did the interactive text within the video. That was awesome.
Love your videos. As a Philadelphian who loves this city I appreciate your videos a lot, those about philadelphia AND those about other cities. Thank you for promoting public transportation.
philly love
If anyone is wondering, around 96% of Norway's energy production is hydroelectric.
0:40 This is common for people who ski to keep up their skill when there's no snow. We have them in Sweden as well.
"What if there is a power outage?"
... This is Europe... we barely ever have power outages.
Right? I have not ever had one since childhood in the early 90s.
Thank you for your effort in putting these videos together! Neighborhood Electric Vehicles (NEVs) is a betting way to describe the small vehicles that are similar in scale to what’s used on the golf course. The words we use to describe things are as important as the things themselves when trying to shift people’s perceptions & behaviors. Please consider this in your speech patterns. It doesn’t mean being PC, but it does mean being conscientious about communicating effectively.
I second this!
Whats PC
So I'm very left wing, cyclist, environmentalist, pro-trans, states my pronouns, LGBT-ally, done drag, anti-racism, pro immigration, vaccinated, pay my taxes and so should corporations kinda guy... but when you asked me to watch how I refer to vehicles... Ah, Jeez, Dude... that's just... I think I need to eat steak tartar and fire a gun just to... cleanse myself.... have you no shame!
@@georgesears2916 Nope! This has a bigger scale impact on society than the individual efforts, not that they don’t have an important impact to the person you’re addressing. Keep up the great work but don’t limit yourself either-that’s what the opposition wants. Don’t consider it a job, just who you are becoming-a thoughtful, considerate & engaged person who doesn’t want to short change our efforts.
@@miguelsalas4852 it’s not about being PC, however you define it. It’s about how we think, behave & create the environment we want to live & hopefully thrive in. Your words convey your values & your values convey how you expend your wealth & resources. What do your values & behaviors say you desire to live in?
Really interesting video, and I appreciate how honest it was about everything. Giving praise where praise is due, while not sugarcoating safety concerns, practical problems, or the fact that all the funding for the infrastructure is from selling oil to be used for emissions.
While all this probably technically results in a net increase in emissions(because everything is funded by oil, and electric adds a middleman that reduces efficiency), it's good to have someone doing wide-scale testing like this to help solve a lot of the engineering and supply chain problems that come with trying to be 100% emission free.
Hopefully we can see more progression in reducing emissions through more increased production of clean energy throughout the world(instead of just burning coal to power electric cars lol), and then this technology and processes could become more widespread and impactful.
electrification is important, but a huge part of the success of cities like Oslow is the huge push towards bicycles and public transit as the go-to transport for commuters and citizens to minimise car useage
road maintenance is reduced because bikes weigh less, bringing down the materials needed to keep road surfaces maintained and reducing emissions through that
Oh wow never thought about that
How do they move goods over there? Building materials, stuff for the market, etc.
@@jinxtacy commercial vehicles can be given exceptions ofc, but a lot of lighter goods can be moved by cargo ebikes
@@lord_scrubington Thanks for the sharing. Really cool society.
@@jinxtacy They are all taxed 60% of their Income. They dont have Money to Buy any Materials and Market Goods. Haha. Its the Truth.
for the section where you counted electric cars, an easy way to tell in norway is to look at the license plate. if it starts with an "E" it's electric.
This is a fantastic video. I'm saving this for later to show friends. I've not been impressed with the channel for a while, but you were saving for something big. I look forward to more like this. Great format, great editing, loved the realness of taking opportunities in the moment like the truck dumping aggregate. It felt very real and grounded, but had a focus and narrative and surprised me with lots of new information.
"fantastic video"??? You mean the whopping lie he told at 2:00 "Norway has the most electric vehicles of any country in the world", was "fantastic"?
Thanks very much, TCS, and appreciate the feedback. I think we have a lot more you will like coming and it's always nice seeing you around.
@@earlysda'Largest per capita'. You Happy?
@@earlysda He must have meant percentage-wise.
Could you imagine living in a city with good public transit including micro mobility with all sorts of vehicles shares including micro EVs for shipping, that aren't price gouging you and are respected by it's citizens? My American brain literally can't fathom it.
9:15 If the sign on the car starts with an E that means it's electric
What’s utterly bizarre is the wealth Norway has derived from oil (and continues to do so). Kudos to the Norwegian government for setting an extraordinary example, but the big picture is a bit weird.
Petroleum industry will still exist and thrive in materials, chemicals, fertilizers and such.
It will just experience a fall in demand for one of its largest markets - fuels.
Going through and adjustment like any other industry, needs to redefine itself with the new market realities.
Norwegian petroleum companies will become leaders in the new market working with their government to redefine their role in global supply/demand. Continuing to produce the best of the beneficial petroleum products while adjusting to the loss of their most environmentally damaging product.
At least in one country the petroleum industry may be acting with sustainability, logic and social responsibility. Just got to get the rest of the world on board.
This is the future I want.
For the net amount of barrels and coal exported, the Carbon Border Tax should have a fair inclusion of special Tax for net Oil Export to level out the playing field. Going completely electric and then charging developing nations with Carbon Border tax is literally a case of financial bullying and peer pressure. This kind of a situation will always limit the emission reduction and general development of developing nations as the natiions now have to allot more resources to cut emissions which would normally be put into infrastructure development. I understand the video was to set an example and spread awareness but this is a truth that cannot be mentioned in the video but needs to put in front by someone.
those charging times are mind blowing. seriously, it makes no sense how low they are. it's incredibly efficient on top of that. i believe that there are many cities in developed countries that could adopt these practices at scale. it's a no brainer
The added bonus on the bus is you might run into a random person you click with
Good luck if you think you'll ever see this happen in such an organized, efficient way in the US!
well US is more bigger, diverse and denser than Norway. Why would you think that it would be possible in US in an organized way.
@@ractmobecause the US is controlled by a self-serving, childish, bought government that has politicians' pockets priorities above those of the country & its citizens.
For the record, the quality of this production is extraordinary, While that is not the the main focus of the video, I couldn't help but notice it. From the typography, to the fonts type, Lower Thirds, angles, colours, sound, so perfect.
Thanks a lot for the background work into this video.
I hope my production can meet such quality someday.
All that "quality" perhaps was to cover the fact that he was telling falsehoods, and many people fell for them.
@@earlysda such as ?
@@kaantax8666 kaantax, I'm not watching the video again to find all the mistakes, but there are many.
.
This was in the news just yesterday:
"Sweden just dealt a severe blow to the globalist climate agenda by scrapping its green energy targets. In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”
Svantesson said wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements. Instead, she said, the Swedish government is shifting back to nuclear power and has scrapped its goal of a “100 percent renewable energy” supply to meet the nation’s energy requirement, as reported by Slay."
.
So nice to see common sense prevail in Sweden! Also nice to see Sweden allow things that Muslims don't like. Freedom, not tyranny in having only one central power source that can easily be turned against you, is what we want.
@@kaantax8666 right!? People like @earlysda love to call others liars without offering any evidence.
1967 I saw electric buses in downtown Chicago. I now learned why they all disappeared. Standard Oil bought them out.
I like how this video shows just how easy it is if your government actually tries!
Or when you don't have a bunch of conservatives throwing temper tantrums every 2 seconds
@@grimaffiliations3671 that's the real thing right there. they really are like children. hateful bigoted little children.
or if it is loaded in cash
@grimaffiliations3671 You are woefully naive. Not a temper tantrum, just an observation. I'm curious, though. If all of the lithium, and the accompanying issues with collecting it, all took place in Norway, do you think they'd still do it? That also raises the question of the pile of cash raised from petroleum sales being used for this. The hypocrisy is delicious. Go ahead and have your tantrum now.
Tries....... Govt pays for all this n pumps money for subsidies
phenomenal report! I did not know that this was going on in Oslo - and the naysayers claim this just can't be done. This MUST become the model for all cities, even in other oil producing countries - like the US!
@@MintyJazz3and you know that to make gas cars they need to use lead acid batteries that are 100 times more toxic and polluting?
@@willy4170 lead acid batteries that are basically infinitely recycable? you realize how large the automotive battery recycling industry is in the usa? heck every traditional car battery you see was probably in another car before
Oil didn't make Norway rich, they made themselves rich. Plenty of other countries with incredible natural resources, but with worst poverty levels in the world, pollution etc
It's really great to see every aspect of Machinery going Electric. But I have few queries
1. How are they managing the Electricity production
2. What are the support schemes or policies setup by the govt there
3. How are they managing the E-Waste and other waste streams too
4. Do the companies producing all the Electric Machines import any materials or other parts from other countries.
1. The same as before, just scaled up a bit. Mix of fuels and green generation solutions.
2. Reduce incentives for fuels based solutions, move the money over to green solutions.
3. Not relevant yet as this is new so most green solutions are still in active service. But once green solutions get old enough to hit disposal in volume it will be treated the same as fuel based solutions. Funnel old items into a reuse and recycling supply chain.
4. Yes of course the exact same as fuel based solutions. Though the new generation solutions present an opportunity to improve supply chains, as long as citizens and consumers keep the pressure up to continue improvements in environmental stewardship and social responsibility.
@@5353Jumper 3) Try repair first
I am so jealous of the narrator of this video : I am big believer in electric mobility and would love to have the opportunity to go in Oslo and test all electric transportation as he did ;)…
Thank you for nice infotmation from Norway Liked Norway !💚
Thanks!
And thanks again :)
I love this new series!
Glad to hear! We actually did some episodes around the topic a few years ago and are bringing it back with a new format 🙂. ruclips.net/video/pUbHGI-kHsU/видео.html
I watch this with a heavy heart as I live next door to Alberta Canada that has an oil wealth far greater than Norway.
The province is making little to almost no attempt to electrify or drastically reduce fossil fuel consumption. They have also let most of the oil wealth run away to far off investors pockets and the province carries a heavy debt. Norway has 1.4 trillion in its wealth fund
Next door to Alberta, do you live in BC? Which investors ran away with the oil wealth? Correct me if I'm wrong but Canada's oil wealth is irrelevant if crude products cannot reach the markets. In fact, out of all the oil producing nations, Canada is the only one that cannot supply itself with oil. From an energy trading standpoint, Alberta has no investment value with or without green energy.
@@wyw201 Canada produces more oil than it consumes. It goes to the USA via pipelines. It is less expensive for the east to import oil and refine it there.
@@morninboy Exactly, Canada don't have the infrastructure to move the bulk of its oil to either coastline and to refineries in Eastern Canada. Hence, the only market it can tap into (with profitable spreads) is the US market. I used to be a commodities trader, Alberta used to the laughing stock among us. Canada will never have the capability to ship its oil to Asia and Europe. Whenever there is a new pipeline project in Canada, we make money betting against it!
Alberta is still loving coal!
What energy source is being used to produce the grid electricity?
Mainly Hydroelectricity (as explained in the video at 16:08).
98% Renewable energy
1:55 the moment I saw that animation I hit the bell
Amazing what can happen when your society actually tries to solve problems
First video and definitely subscribing! Entertaining and informative, thanks for the awesome quality content!
Well done Oslo.
14:05 Can't the battery fires be extinguished or suffocated using CO2 just like Normal Ship Engine Fires? maybe other means like Foam if possible?
Beklageligvis ikke. The fire does not need oxygen to make a chemical reaction. The ferries use fresh water from a supply and goes over to salt water when the tank is emptied. The captain
@@3Dpixels that's quite rare I thought fire needs a certain amount of oxygen just to be alive
drilling oil and selling to other countries, then turning around and acting like "oh we are green, look ev" is like selling cocaine to people and then building a drug rehabilitation centre with that profit.
Welcome to neoliberalism 😂
I still appreciate their efforts & achievements. countries can have money but not / can't do what they do.
Look at what the UK did with their share of the exact same oil wealth - just handed it all to rich people as tax breaks. No sovereign wealth fund for a rainy day, no investment in the fabric of the country, just a crazy period of fire selling public assets (Railways, Telecom, Gas, Electricity) and a boom and bust property cycle.
@@breadnewbie6326 They export roughly 2 million barrels of crude oil every single day...their entire population is just 5 million.
How is this doing good for the environment, this is just green washing.
The US sells a lot more oil than Norway and spends a lot less of the money earned from it on Green tech. Once we are fully green we can cut back on oil. Another thing is, our oil and gas is actually greener overall due to electrification, its not like the demand will go down if we stop, it will just give opec more power and prices will rise.
The electric excavator connected to the grid by a glorified extension cord reminds me of a story about my uncle by marriage. We visited them about 1960 in the Erie PA area. He worked for the electric company and they gave him a electric lawn mower to demonstrate the technology in his neighborhood. He said the neighbors all stopped to watch when he mowed the yard. He suspected they were waiting for him to mow over the cord.
Thank you very much. It was very inspiring !
That is smart use of oil profits, specially when they are even electrifying the process of extraction / production.
Other countries are going to use oil for certain time irrespective of who produces it. No one can force other country to switch immediately.
Why let someone else take profits when you can use them better yourself and control the method of production making it clean and safe.
Yes the lady at 7:14 is right. I think that Oxygen needs to be thought of as a commodity. A commodity in that there are finite amounts of it produced every year. This is a great video, thank you for posting.
For those who live with the condition bought about by the burning of fossil fuel through asthma, Oxygen is already a commodity! I take a Inhaler and its manufactured by the same companies who make oil base products, and once used, the Inhaler is recycled as an energy source, in other words burn at an Incinerator! and so the cycle continues as more and more people join the asthma community and learn of this fact.
The issue is not oxygen, sure, producing more can be somewhat beneficial; it will take many centuries to even noticeably decrease the oxygen in the atmosphere. The issue is carbon dioxide, air pollutants and other things which have an uncomparable huge impact compared to the almost negligible impact of percentage-wise tiny reduction in oxygen each year. Oxygen is mostly a concern in the distant future, if it even comes to that, considering how we are starting to apply solutions to combat global warming, etcetera.
Electric tram, wow, what a concept :D I know its not a point but I found that really funny :D
biggest problem for electrified anything is the battery, how they mine the raw materials? how they produce it? and how they gonna ricycle it?
Batteries will be recycled, unlike stuff that is burned. It only has to be mined once, because it is not being burned and thrown into the air. As more mining equipment goes electric, etc. it just improves, unlike the old ways.
@@brians7094 sure, because you're the one who is in control over it, and make sure everyone involved do their part
lol good luck with that
ruclips.net/video/Ia_T02WlTgM/видео.html
Great video 16:13 This comes out to a minimum of 852k metric tons of CO2 released daily, and Norway produced 32 million metric tons of CO2 in 2022.
In Toronto, Canada, we have a ferry which takes a 7-minute round trip.. it runs on diesel power. 😅
Electric is perfect for this kind of vehicle and electric power train is way simpler and better than ICE.
Here for the video, amazed with the effect titles 1:45 😅, subscribed!!!!
one of the biggest things that people overlook about electric is how much quitter it is.
To be fair, normal passenger cars like Camry, Civic are pretty quiet. It's those asshole drivers who mod the exhaust system.
I live in Shenzhen and there are a lot of BYD pure electric heavy dump trucks that are still super loud and annoying.
@@leanliferA video with sound would be of use. I wonder whether it's tire noise, or a low design quality of moving parts, or just the noise of dropping dirt in, etc.? But good to know.
Why do you think everyone else thinks quiet cars are a benefit?
I want my car to rev.
seems like your life is miserable@@leanlifer
One of the best videos Freethink has made
Thanks so much!
Another city most wouldn't think is going electric is Delhi, recently decided that they would stop procuring CNG Buses (which is already cleaner then diesel ones) and will only buy electric buses, Metro and Railways is already 100% electric, Taxi's (which again was mostly CNG as sale of diesel taxis has already been banned a long ago) city wouldn't issue permits to new one's that are not electric, we also have something similar to paxter called e-rickshaws that is being used for last mile connectivity and for transporting goods, there's already plan to ban diesel cars by 2027 in whole country, two wheelers are already getting rolled out as electric each and every day but we do lack in electric construction vehicles.
Going to be Huge Failure . When Delhi wont be able to produce Electricity
Electricity is everywhere to be harvested. And I mean everywhere. Even our body has an electrical system, works chemically. Pottasium and salt as in a sports drink. @@SamRichardson1990
Dead batteries on electric bikes and scooters is a pain. Incredibly slow speed limits on them is also a pain. The issue is that drunk people use them and crash so then the city regulates the top speed to like 5 miles per hour. This triples the costs to get from point a to point b because it takes longer.
Every year battery tech gets better.
All of the trams I know are electric. In my mind it's almost by definition. Any counter example of non electric trams (light trains)?
There were steam trams that burned diesel or coal. And there are still diesel trams
@@olamilekanakala7542 where can we find them?
population of Norway is 1/3 smaller than the state of Arizona. Its easy to make changes on such a small scale.
Arizona has sun=electricity!
Somebody always comes up with this somewhat moot argument. A bigger country would then have more resources available.
Simply incredible and inspiring!
Not that much
But I think the politicans may have forgotten to give green light for building out more hydropower that is sufficient to cover everything which shall be electrified with green energy. We cannot cover the need for stable power with a lot of windmills which is not nice for the nature neither by the building or the sight in untouched nature. Modern river propellers can give a lot of energy without most negative options.
I swear Norway goes 10 years ahead of whole world
No its not going. Netherland is
@@mospher9253 I mean they can both go I guess.Are we gonna argue about a subjective opinion of which one of the two countries being ahead of their time?
@@exosproudmamabear558 i just give you my anwser i dont ask for debat but if you want lets go ahead
Like abusing other 3rd world countries by depending on child labor to mine the lithium for the batteries? Makes perfect LOGICAL sense to use the weak under developed countries for slaves. Got it. FLASHING LIGHTS and fast moving video scenes blind you into thinking ITS ALL RAINBOWS AND UTOPIA?
Your editing is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
its more sustainable to run a vehicle to the ground than replacing a perfectly fine vehicle with an EV. Also making all those batteries produce tons of CO2 and raise ethical concerns (slave cobalt mining ex.) What will they do with all those batteries once theyve run their course?
Your anti battery disinformation is like 5 years old now - all debunked - all of it - batteries last a long time and are recyclable, new chemistry's don't use cobalt, cobalt is used in gasoline refining too, primary cobalt mining (at scale - which EV's need) does not use hand labour - you are probably thinking of Tantalum mining for mobile phones - most of the anti EV meme's use pictures of Tantalum mining, not cobalt from primary copper mine tailings, CO2 emissions for batteries depend on where the battery is made, and when, Mr. Bean's article was using old data, and so on and so forth. Google this stuff. Look for "EV myths debunked" and read up, your head is full of disinformation from a desperate industry tying to avoid stranding their trillion dollar emission assets.
@@MintyJazz3 we have to be honest about the impacts of keeping going with gasoline / petrol, the original comment said "its more sustainable to run a (gasoline) vehicle to the ground" - this statement is false, and they then justified that with a bunch more anti EV misinformation that is also not true.
Mining of anything can be a problem, and that includes Oil, fracking for Gas, Lithium for personal electronics, Cobalt for gasoline and batteries in all devices, not just cars, platinum for hydrogen fuel cells, copper for just about everything, Tantalum and a collection of other minerals for mobile phones and so on and so forth.
I don't disagree with any of that, but we need to frame ALL products in context. The big issue with only focusing on EV batteries (ignoring cellphones, laptops, power tools etc,. etc, etc.) is it implies the status quo of extracting, refining and burning gasoline is A-OK. And that is not true. Not even slightly.
Yes, making an EV has an impact, but no, it is not worse than continuing to run a gasoline car into the ground for another decade, and the impacts of EV manufacturing are being taking seriously, and made better every year.
Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) is a cobalt free battery chemistry in use in some EVs already, Sodium Ion (salt) is a contender to replace Lithium, which is actually abundant, and mined in western countries like Australia - hopefully without exploitation.
I hope you hold Oil and Gas to the same high standards that all propulsion methods should be measured against, and when you do that critically, with data, EVs come out ahead, even with the worst combinations of sourcing, and come out very far ahead with green manufacturing of the battery, and cobalt free chemistry's.
Supply chain abuses are not okay, but sadly they are not specific to EVs - the scale of EVs actually creates more funding to fix these problems, namely switching cobalt away from tailings of copper mining, which is where these abuses tend to happen more, as it's outside commercial (machinery) scale mining. (euphemistically called 'artisinal' mining - rather than the more accurate 'exploitative')
@@MintyJazz3 what about palladium in the catalyser inside the gas car, sodium battery exist and lithium is using less water and pollution to be extract, and their is lithium every where
@@MintyJazz3Lithium is plentiful and gets cleaner every year, unlike oil. It only has to be mined once, then recycled. It's not going to be depleted.
@@brushlessmotoringwhat's so lame about the money argument is that literally every business stands to profit off of their technology, not just oil. So saying oil is just in it for the money, is like saying EV's are just in it for the money. I think your political posturing is how you determine that. Because dirty air, no matter how trivial, is demonized in favor of make believe technology, that no real engineer would ever accept.
BTW, if you look at the official statistics, the co2 concentrations are 0.04% of the atmosphere at ground level, where its at its thickest, meaning overall it's actually far less than even that. The amount we've changed it, according to the data, is only 0.01% over 150 years. Again, that's only relative to where we measure it, it's not indicative of the actual percentage. Its literally 1/10,000. A penny on the $100.00. It's totally trivial, and nothing more than a new political narrative that greases the wheels of capitalism.
But in all honesty, the technology isn't even real. There's no way to make a battery that does not use its power as it uses its charge. There's also no way to make Horsepower in a motor. So even if you could make a battery that was good enough, the motor would run worse than a diesel. Unless 2 + 2 = 5. But if that's the case, then why would any of this even need to exist at all?
This isn't exactly of forum of experts. It's a political echo chamber, disguised as a technological newsletter.
USA: “We can’t go fully electric! It’s not possible!”
Norway: “Here. Hold my beer.”
Electric vehicules are individualistic technologies.
It's still impossible to make the tires, the roads, the mining, the processing, and everything that created these individual vehicules without a lot of oil and emissions.
When we recognize this, and look at different technologies to do the same thing (transport), we see that public solutions have the lowest emission per capita. Like trains, trams, metros, etc.
The reason it matters is because we DON'T have enough cobalt, lithium, copper, and many more minerals needed to apply this electrification model everywhere. Not even close.
So, if we can't do it everywhere, if our natural ecosystems are already destroyed by all this industrial activity, and we have to reduce that (not just emissions of CO2), then we need to look at options that use LESS materials, energy and resources. And that means public transport, along with walking, biking, and other options that do not need a global supply chain to put create.
3 years ago the Quebec government bought a used fully electric ferry from Italy, but I guess this doesn't count for this FREETHINK video man. It had been in service a number of years.Proper research is a must to maintain credibility.
I spoke of this to someone here in America, about an all electronic future, and it's crazy because they couldn't even begin to imagine. I told them about the uber bikes and uber scooters (and their tesla deal for a traditional Über) and they were stunned ay how much w3 ALREADY have (and don't have)
This makes sense in Norway, where all electricity comes from hydroelectric plants. It doesn't make sense in America, where all the extra electricity for all these new electrical appliances would only come from burning coal.
@@mareksykora779 That's not at all true. Coal power as a percentage of the energy mix has been declining for years now. All new capacity either primarily comes from wind, solar, or natural gas.
@@olamilekanakala7542 No. We want to stop coal power plants, but we can't because we have high electricity consumption. If we replace Teslas with gasoline cars, then all the electricity saved will mean a reduction in production in precisely those unwanted coal-fired power plants. So the real effect of driving a Tesla is 100 percent in burnt coal. And it wouldn't burn if we put the Tesla in a junkyard.
@@mareksykora779 we don’t want to. We are. It is uneconomical to build new coal in the US. The last significant plant built was in 2013. And we’ve shut down several this past decade, with another 33 or so slated for decommission by 2030. Coal is simply circling the drain. If anyone wants to build new fossil fuels it’s going to be gas. And regardless, it’s still better for the environment to drive an electric car with fossil fueled electricity than it is to drive an ICE vehicle.
@@olamilekanakala7542 You'd be shutting down coal plants much faster if you were ditching Teslas. Teslas keep them going. And so it will be in the next fifteen years. Therefore, the real effect of driving a Tesla in the US is in burnt coal.
Super slick... love the motion graphics
I think a mix of electric, oil, hydrogen and other methods should power the future. When we centralize any industry it will lead to imbalanced systems powering greedy massive corporations. Diversifying is the key to our future.
I have to disagree, oil should be spent only on chemistry industry
Also hydrogen is power storage, not power source
Oil should be eradicated due to it harmful greenhouse gases emission. You can easily divide the energy sector into multiple branch to avoid imbalance power. All can be done without involving carbon emissions in the process
joe, you speak common sense, which triggers Climate Alarm religionists.
@@zulhilmi5787 then when we switch to something else another problem will form
All broad gauge section of Indian Railway soon become 100% electric, which carrying 20 millions+ passenger everyday.
Americans always think that there must be a lof of power outages (maybe from own experiences?). My guess is, that on avereage it does not even happen once a year.
More comments: Should we call a place with electric chargers "gas stations" still? You are correct when you say that extinguishing a battery fire is hard, but it sounded like only electric boats could catch fire, which is defnetly false. For cars I know, that the probability of a fire is twenty times higher on fossil fuel cars compared to evs.
I have not experienced a power outage in my life for the past 28 years...
Oslo isnt a Global City
Great to see this wonderful video - the real difference can come to earth only when big countries do such things...but there things are not moving much...
Where does the power come from that charges them?
Power plants. In Norway mostly hydroelectric power station
probably from zero-point
From trans unicorn rainbow farts harvested by robots 🤡🌎
yeah using anaI probes
From electricity triggered by Conservatives.
Loved your presentation, said many things including your passion for greener industry. Wish you all the success in the world. Passion and determination is a formula for success.
How do they intend to mitigate the risk associated with a grid failure?
How do they intend to mitigate the risk associated with Russia trying to use hydrocarbons to blackmail Europe?
By not connecting an entire city to one hydrodamn?
Also battery farms exist as well in the case of a failure which is really really rare in Norway.
The one barrier to stopping mass adoption of electric vehicles is price. More government incentives are needed. There should be no taxes on new energy vehicles. But some governments raise money from oil taxes. These governments should tax the oil companies.
I'm still mixed on this we have to electrify everything movement. It's one thing if its directly connected to the grid, but I don't find batteries to be environment friendly. Mining, production and disposal of batteries is extremely toxic and resource (time, energy, raw materials - cobalt) intensive.
Also what are they using for power generation if they are just burning fossil fuels to supply the grid it really not changing much
We get this question a lot and it's totally understandable!
First, Norway gets 99% of its power from emissions-free sources - 91.5% Hydropower, 7.5% wind: www.statista.com/statistics/1025497/distribution-of-electricity-production-in-norway-by-source/ .
While not every country is that clean, EVs still have a number of environmental benefits relative to gas-fueled ones.
- While mining and production of current batteries indeed has environmental harms, so does the mining and production of oil: oil spills, fires, the need to use and dispose of industrial chemicals, etc. Similarly, the extraction of fossil fuels itself requires a lot of energy just like the mining of battery materials. While both oil and lithium-ion batteries can be environmentally harmful to produce, EVs avoid the double hit of gas vehicles having a dirty process to generate their fuel and then that fuel itself also polluting when used.
-Happily, battery designs that use less toxic and safer to obtain materials are proliferating: We actually went to Argonne National Laboratory for a video that gets into this issue and progress on it: ruclips.net/video/KMP0x0DpxSY/видео.html
-Electric grids are increasingly powered by low-carbon sources. While decades ago virtually all electricity was from fossil fuels, today over a third of the world's electricity comes from low-carbon sources (renewables, nuclear, hydro) and it's increasing every year. So while 100% of the fuel a gas car burns today or in 10 years will generate emissions, powering an EV requires a lower fraction today (depending on the area, of course) - and over time, will be cleaner and cleaner to charge.
-EVs are much more efficient than gas-powered cars. When you burn fuel in a car, about 80% of the energy is lost through heat or in other ways. By comparison, when you charge an EV battery about 2/3 of the energy is used to make the car actually move and operate. So, perhaps surprisingly, even if you power an EV with electricity from a coal-fired plant, it still requires a lot fewer emissions to drive the same distance that a gas car does. www.motortrend.com/news/evs-more-efficient-than-internal-combustion-engines/
Hope this helps clarify things!
What about carbon neutral fuels like biodiesel, biogas, wood gas. What about cobalt slaves? What about the upgrading of all the pre-existing electric infrastructure and lack of energy storage if your not blessed with 24-7 hydro power everywere?That is what electrify everything movement misses.
Heck gasification even makes carbon negative fuel.
Construction projects in the cities are fine to plug into but what if you need to fix a power outage or build a new suburb or other infrastructure spanning under developed and wide spread areas like in the US soon to be rural areas, 3rd world countries, India, ect where there is no pre existing electric power yet? The point of construction is to construct what isn’t already there or is damaged. I guess you can store charged batteries but carbon neutral feul is better for emissions anyway and that reminds me. Those electric construction equipments are puny not exactly heavy duty either because of battery limitations . Good for them but being born in a country with that much hydro and wind funded By natural domestic oil springs blessings at that small scale nation’s city is not exactly replicable 100% silver bullet.
Batteries can be made of things other than rare metals, like salt - esp at suburban or street scale
Sodium Batteries is a cool technology that should replace lithium in about 5-10 years but they are just as limited as batteries are as an energy carrying medium. Sodium ion batteries are cheaper then lithium ion but empty fuel containers of steel or plastic are even easier to manufacture. Sodium is pretty energy dense for a battery but battery pale in comparison to even the worst fuels like firewood let alone diesel or methanol. Building a electric car that runs on sodium ion batteries sounds good for the environment but that good deed is nothing compared to making renewable bio/carbon neutral fuels like methanol or bio diesels that can run in pre-existing cars (the 99% on the road that need to get clean asap). Using what we already have: that’s what carbon neutral allows. Zero emissions is battery tech companies pretending to be the silver bullet when they are not. Most the time they should pantograph plugged in to not even use a big battery and that tech could be retrofitted on carbon neutral fuel cars too. The lack of energy density makes Storying renewable energy in most places insanely costly both dollars and space wise which is a disqualifier for serious sized construction equipment or things like freight shipping or passenger air lines. Sure if you have unlimited oil dollars funding you and absurd hydro electric everywhere you transend battery as a storage medium since you generate constantly but for most places and pourpouses (unless you go nuclear) that is not the case.
Many leaders need to see this ecosystem, to get motivate and lead their communities.
Electric is really advancing at a staggering pace. I'm sure EVs alone will be more efficient than conventional gas engines in the not too distant future.
I agree but we need carbon free electricity to power them. Solar and wind are important but carbon free energy is not possible without nuclear power. If we had not been deceived by the anti-nuclear hippies we would have no global warming, electric cars snd energy too cheap to meter. 😢
Even if charged by dirtier electrical grids, EVs do not put noxious chemicals into the air next to people walking or running or riding, and reduced noise is valuable.
@@georgesears2916 A large portion of the public perception against nuclear power is irrational and unscientific, but the nuclear industry has no one to blame but itself. You'd be hard pressed to find an industry (besides tobacco) more lacking in transparency and engaged in more deception, coverups, and underhanded lobbying than the nuclear industry. And today the nuclear industry is neck deep in spreading disinformation about wind and solar.
That future is already here.
I am big on nuclear myself,agreed. But I also know that renewables just need storage and some types or energy storage doesnt even need batteries.@@georgesears2916
So wht is used to produce the electricity? How long does it take to recharge everything. None of this is discussed.
Hydropower and windpower.
EPIC!! makes me wanna move to OSLO so bad 😭
I have never been on a tram that is not electric. Not even once have I thought that nowadays they were powered with anything but electricity.
ruclips.net/video/ctuRh_LARrQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/4n8NloTs0z0/видео.html
I loved that part that was like "We dig all our oil with clean wind power
If it doesn't come from there, it'll come from somewhere else. This way the money can be used to 'fuel' their transition.
my mind is completely blown ... im going to Oslo to check this out
That Paxter is really good. I think Oslo wants to copy Shenzhen where everything is electric.
Of course that ferry worker has a blonde beard and long hair, looking like a modern viking.
I've read through about the first 50 comments to confirm what I suspected. Most of the people commenting here are utterly clueless about the foundation of Oslo's electrification. People here are saying, "See? Why can't the US do this?" and stuff like that. Well, if the rest of the world ever does completely electrify, it won't be the way the Norwegians did. At only one point of the video, in a throwaway sentence, was it mentioned that Norway gets its electricity (99.9% of it) from *hydropower* . Norway not only has the second longest coastline in the world, the vast majority of that coastline is home to the world's longest and deepest fjords, which makes the production of hydroelectricity possible. *Literally no other country in the world has the geography to do what Norway has done* , and this one omission from an otherwise quaint video makes it inexcusably deceptive. Shame on you.
Yet mass wind and solar are the cheapest sources of energy in human history.
@@brians7094 Cheapness is not the only factor in supplying a power grid, however. If Solar energy was 100% free (which it *will* be at some point in the future), it still could not meet all our needs. Hydroelectricity is a far better source (if you're not a salmon).
@@BS-vx8dgThere are papers which say solar can meet all of our needs. Either way, I won't debate that, as long as we stop poisoning the air.
@@BS-vx8dgSolar plus wind, in conjunction with energy storage, can easily meet every countries' energy requirements.
It is happening now.
@@davidmenasco5743 Anyone can say anything they like. I can say that pig farm waste will provide the world with all its energy needs, that doesn't make it true. Your claim is pure bunk, and you obviously do not grasp the physics behind this issue. I'm a huge fan of solar power, and I love the look of the wind turbines in my area. But I know enough about energy to know that the energy storage issue is not even _close_ to being solved yet.
A rather long and thin cable charging that ferry.
I'm convinced Norway is the peak of society. Its got a strong welfare state and a lot of public ownership which limits how low you can fall, but it also has a robust private sector and many billionaires so there are no limits on how high you can rise.
Then go live there. Take a jacket.
Curious, what happened to all of the municipal gas powered vehicles? Did the get sold to another country or did they go to landfills???? Just wondering.
They got sold to the public, probably to auksjon or scrapped, ain't like they are wasting usable cars.
Sorry but I can't respect any oil rich nations spending ridiculously huge amount of many on any ambitious projects whether its to build new cities or electrifying. Other nations in the world especially poorer and less developed countries don't have the same privilege and I support these poor countries burning whatever fuel they can to keep their economy afloat and make a living, unless these outrageously rich OIL countries (including the US - the most oil rich country in the world) pay for their decarbonization completely. Otherwise it is just HYPOCRISY, when these rich countries contribute SO MUCH MORE to greenhouse accumulation over the past century.
I agree, ghrbaa.
The reason why Norway can easily transition is because of its geography and population as well, they have a smaller population to provide tons of power they can source from clean energy sources that being hydropower. Which leads to geography, their canals are the largest in the world which is why they can live solely off of hydro indefinitely. There are poor countries out there yes, but a lot of them are corrupt, having been from a poor nation who has received help from rich nations, our governments don't use those funds for its intended purposes.
Right, the US owes the most to poor countries due to putting the most pollution into the atmosphere in history. Europe as a group is also up there. But at current levels of corruption and disinformation, everyone would be lucky even if only the rich countries transitioned rather than nobody.
Norway never fails to impress me with how they manage their oil wealth and prepare for their great weaning off of big oil. It's not about making a nation less vulnerable to climate change but to make it weather global energy price shocks and economic coercion from other countries. Canada can learn a lot from Norway in how to wean itself off of the social economic hard drug that big oil is.
EV engineer here...
Where do the batteries come from? Yup, you guessed it.
Where did the energy come from to produce those batteries?... Yup, you guessed it.
How are they cleaning up the planet and yet accelerating Industrial pollution for this new tech? Yup, you guessed it.
Looks real good for the camera although a lot more to do before it all pencils out. Nice to see!
Your guess on energy is wrong
Also conventional cars are stupidest type of vehicles. They are built around engines, not around people needs.
Are you saying that you are an expert that that Toyota is better for the planet than Tesla?
It's the same cliche argument but not even really relevant. You're basically admitting climate change is real and fossil fuels are bad, but that electric isn't any better. That's not the problem with electric vehicles.
How do you make a battery that can hold significant power and be charged at home or through regenerative braking? How do you make a battery that doesn't use its power as it uses its charge? How do you make a motor that produces Horsepower? These are all impossible technologies. Basically if you can do these things, you might as well just fly around on a magic carpet.
Climate change is basically a virtue signaling charade that has taken center stage and distracted people from the real actual problem with this world, capitalism. It's no wonder it's being orchestrated by the controlled opposition, the democrats. There is no opposition to capitalism. It's just a new scheme to induce new demand, and make more money, and just rebuild everything for profit. It's late stage capitalism, reinventing the wheel because everything's already been developed. So develop it again.
huh@@uis246
If I am correct Oslo also mandates residential property like apartments have EV charging.
That's actually pretty funny, because residential electric power isn't exactly appropriate for use in a car. In other words, it's nonsense.