I have seen the film of “The Message” but I never heard anything about our Beloved Prophet’s voice being used at all in the film. Maybe it was edited out afterwards but I watched it as a new Muslim a few months after reverting but now after reading deep into the Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet ﷺ I see that there is no need for a film to be made at all, we can see the beauty of his character all throughout the his (ﷺ) Sunnah. May Allah Azzawajal keep us firm upon following the Quran and the Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad ﷺ strictly in the understanding of the first 3 pious generations.
they are not talking about the movie ' The Message '' but '' Lady Of Heaven'' which is a 2021 British historical drama film written by the Twelver Shia cleric Yasser Al-Habib .
I'm not a Muslim but I love reading about Medieval History. The Muslim led Andalucía was founded by a descendant of the Umayyad caliphate (Sunni) in the late 700. The Fatimid Caliphate (Shia) started more than 100 years later in 909 and far from Spain.
@@Thegreatone77 truth? You know what the truth is? The truth is Fatima (SA) died unhappy with Abu Bakr because he didn’t give her her share of right from the property of Fadak. Written in sahih bukhari. Wallahi, those who upset the Ahlul Bayt (AS), upset the Prophet (SAW) & Allah (SWT).
❤ ❤❤ big love for brother shamsi I am from Pakistan we love Beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH more than our self we can not become momin untill we love Nabi Kareem more than our self and all our family
This is the way of Ahlusunnah to have a civil debate. Love brother Shamsi. Indeed its a red line how they can even portray and attribute any voice to Rasul Allah ﷺ . His ﷺ shimail is enough to for any believer to feel His ﷺ presence.
So you love the khaleefa not appointed by the prophet and hated by the daughter of the prophet when she died? Are you crazy? You love him because you’re blind.
@@yourmomshouse8993 Are you insane... Prophet( swaws) commanded Abu bakr( rd) to lead the prayers while he was ill... Abu bakr( rd) was the imam of Ali ibn talib( rd) .... Abu bakr( rd) never hated the prophet( swaws) daughter... you been seeking knowledge from the shia 👿....
@@yourmomshouse8993 Ali(ra) is reported to have said in shia book: و إنا لنرى أبا بكر أحق بها - أي بالخلافة - إنه لصاحب الغار. و إنا لنعرف سنه. و لقد أمرنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم بالصلاة خلفه و هو حي )))). نهج البلاغة، تحقيق العالم الشيعي الشريف الرضي 1 / 132 Ali(ra) said: “And we see Abu Bakr more fit to receive it (Caliphate) For he is Sahib Al Ghar (Mentioned in the Quran as the second of Two whom Allah is their third) and we know his age and the Prophet PBUH had ordered us to pray Behind him when he was Alive”. (Nahjul Balagha, Tahqeeq Allamah Shareef el Redah 1/132).
@@yourmomshouse8993 Ali said: “If I didn’t feel that he (Abu Bakr) deserved to rule, I would have not allowed him to do so.” (Sharh Nahj al Balagha by Ibn Abi al Hadeed vol.2 pg.45)
Walahi Ali would cry if anyone praised him over Abu Bakar, the companions of the prophet(peace and blessings be upon him) loved each other and they loved Abu Bakar greatly after the prophet of Allah. And it is part of our religion to love them and ask Allah to forgive us and them. May Allah guide us all, ameen.
@@mjkk6205 how will this benefit you! Allah already promised forgiveness to them. And all commanded us to ask forgiveness from Allah for ourselves and those who Proceeded us in faith. Allah didn’t say look for their mistakes. And you can’t BLEIVE how much help Abu Bakar provided to the Prophet SAWS. STOP IT! Walahi leave your hatred for the prophet’s companions. And even more the prophet promised paradise to Abu Bakar. Who are you and I to every say anything displeasing about Abu Bakar. And why would it matter even if he drank before Islam, a lot of the companions used to do un-Islamic things before Islam, but don’t you know that Allah forgives All the sins done before your acceptance of Islam. And even after excepting Islam, Allah is still the most forgiving! May Allah guide us, ameen.
I won’t say anything bad about Abu Bakr, and I even respect my Sunni brothers. But the Prophet gave Valiyat to Mowla Ali. Of course we will always until we die praise Imam Ali AS over Abu Bakr. Mo Deen is not a proper representatives for Shias, he dresses like a middle schooler.
Ali RA is not mentioned in the Quran. Please be careful. He is of high importance in our deen but he is not mentioned in the book of Allah. Our Shia brothers and sisters must learn the truth and follow the nabi pubh and the Quran. Full stop.
you need to read Quran first to find His name, if you need more let me know otherwise check your DNA please! both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 67 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida has been revealed on Ghadir day and for the sake of Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship (walaya) Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 249 Verse 9 in Chapter An-Nisa urges everyone to obey Imam Ali (A.S) and the other Imams (A.S) Sunni: Shavahed Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 202 according to Verse 3 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida, one’s faith is completed by accepting Ghadir and Imam Ali’s (A.S) successorship Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 211 both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 7 in Chapter al-Bayyina is about Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship and that he is the best benefactor Sunni: Dur al-Manthur, verse interpretation that both Shiites and Sunnis agree Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Ra’d introduce Imam Ali (A.S) as the best guide and director for Muslims Sunni: Musnad Ahmad, Chapter 2, Hadith 990 Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Anbiya suggests Imam Ali and other Imams (A.S) the meaning of “those who reminisce (possess) the Message Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, verse interpretation that both Shiites and Sunnis believe Imam Ali (A.S) possesses full insight of the Holy Quran according to Verse 43 in Chapter Al-Ra’d Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 400 “holding fast by the rope Allah (S.W.T) has stretched for you” in Verse 103 in Chapter Al-i-Imran means grasping on belief in Imam Ali’s and other Imam’s (A.S) guardianship Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 168 that both Shiites and Sunnis have identically narrated the famous hadith “Whoever I am his master, this Ali is his master Sunni: Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, Chapter 39, P 297, Hadith 18497
10:38 It’s too sad to see what Shias is doing to tell us that Imam Ali radei Allah anh mentioned in the Quran. Alhammdulillah that Quran is protected by millions of Muslims so people like this guy can’t just say whatever he wants to say.
SURAH 2:134 - That was a community that had already gone before. For them is what they earned and for you is what you have earned. And you will not be accountable for what they have done.
Bro I’m a Sunni, and I actually get upset for the Shia community when this guy debates on their behalf. Like please bring someone learned. How can you not correctly recite a verse from the Quran (which by the way, is supposed to be the IMPLICIT reference to Ali RA - which it is not)… like if the Ayah is that important for the Shiie school of thought, it should roll of his tongue. I’m sorry but the guy is a joke and I’m trying to be as nice as possible…. Shamsi needs to debate someone a little more… qualified?
@@exhilitydraws3417 I mean there needs to be some type of benefit to the discussion. That can't happen when one of the parties is either ignorant or insincere.
Shamsi said "There are 2 Tabari, One Shia source and one Sunni source". This is true and Farid showed books from both of them. they have the same name. If anyone is interested then let me know and I will try to find the video of Farid. the video is either about the Battle of Jamal, the killing of Usman or the karbala.
We really need to start building bridges with the shia community. Start speaking with kindness. Id imagine shias are sincere in their beliefs and only seek the truth as are the sunnis. We really need to get this idea that we can not speak to each other because of what happened 1300 years ago. We should really come together and talk as brothers and trade knowledge instead of slandering each other
When someone is cursing your own mother and the companions of the prophets ! How do you imagine being kind to them !? They have fed this hatred since their childhood ! Yet alhamdulelah we have many dua at that go and debates with the shias , they are the ones thats run away always ! Yet they call themselves ahl albayt followers !
@@MrCaprice90 Exactly. Many shia have been to speaker's corner and they were very rude and insulting. They are taught to insult and show anger when their arguments start falling apart.
@@MrCaprice90 So if Muawiyah cursed Imam Ali (AS), Hazrat Bibi Fatima Zehra (SA) PBUH and HF didn't speak to Abu Bakr, is that bad. Bro, bro, bro there's so many proof like cmon man.
@@HiHi-ek1dd Thats your problem you just only hear and don’t go and search, give me a 1 sahih hadith about moaiah cursing ali straight and forward I will wait
Asalam ma laykum in these blessed days may allah bless and ease the sufferings of the ummah and may allah unite the ummah upon the quran and sunnah and may allah have mercy on all those that have passed away before us and may Allah have mercy on us when we pass away and may allah cure all those that have a sickness and a disability and may allah grant them a cure that leaves no aliment and may allah protect the muslims from hellfire and from the fitnah of dajjal and may allah answer all our prayers ameen
My brothers, the Messenger of God..He is the rank and rank of the Messenger of God, rather he is the master of the elite of the five messengers..Prophecy is the stage of the beginning and the end..The Prophet is a follower of the one before him and he is Jesus.
I still don't understand why anyone is giving the the time of the day to Mo Deen..seriously why do these dawah guys give him any platform to these Jahil...!!!! When he comes to you just turn your back to this arrogant individual...he is a hypocrite of the highest level...
I think one of the Shiah Tabari wrote “Dala'il al-Imama” The Sunni Tabari (Muhammad ibn Jarir ibn Yazid) wrote “Tafsir al-Tabari” Easy to check which Tabari the Hadith is from
According to who, you ?! You ignorant, the basics of Arabic language was put by Imam Ali AS originally and you call his followers ignorant of the language! I swear the youngest non-Arabic one of his followers knows more in the Arabic language than your whole bunch of fake wahhabi scholars nowadays!
Muhammad: Im the city of knowledge and Ali is the gate. Muhammad: Quran is with Ali and Ali is with Quran Muhammad: For who I am the leader, Ali is your leader. Sunni Islam- finished
"And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed." (Surah Al-An'am, 6:21) > "Say, 'Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.'" (Surah Yunus, 10:69) "Whoever tells lies about me deliberately, let him take his seat in Hellfire." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith 1291; Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3)
The most solid reason why Muslim don't allow film painting of a prophet "walamyakullahuu kufuwan ahad"and nothing is like him,same for beloved prophet for whole we are here to mentally glorifying thinking about prophet ,you know every sunnah is to glorify Allah means thought about holy prophet how he did yes you can change,and at any mood the most thrilling and beautiful face you imagine you can say even that is not his glimpse but its from him the holy prophet of Allah
The thing is you know if someone in a majlis said while talking a priest said Mohammad a guy,in a rude way a ottoman soldier listened he punished the whole listener and than that place was made harram even to sow sead where that majlis was standing for seven years hearing any disrespect even talking that anything of heaven is more beautiful than sweat fragrance of rasool Allah saw is,blasphemy
Subhanallah , brother we both need to learn our religion better … is this from Quran and sunnah? … May Allah guide us to the straight path and make it soft and gentle happy and healthy upon us and our families ameen
There is only one name mentioned in the Qur'an except all the prophets and that is if zaid bin harisa (33:37) These Shias are completely blinded in their own terminology
Harun to Musa? harun died before Musa, and Yusha was after Musa. So look at the context of the saying and when and why it was said. Jeez guys, basic research will take you out of the fold of shiasm!
@@mystichalaly8083 when it is mentioned from a sahih narration to them, "If there were to be a prophet after me, it would have been Umar." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 3686; Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 12429) They try to provide this daleel where prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam never told that he would be such that
@@ferhattahar7372 see how Moo Deen interact with other muslim debaters within years.. how about when he debate with Mohamad Hijab?? Remember what Mohamad Hijab told him?? Unless you're Shia fanatics
@@Spark12429 when did I say otherwise. I am a Sunni and I have studied shia sect for a number of years. He is a clown. A clown doesn’t spit such rubbish as he has. If you are supporting him you an even bigger clown.
Yes. And majority of scholars including sheikh Abu Yusuf as thawri (r.a), imam Ahmed ibn hanbal r.a, allama Albani r.a and many others of his time and later time agree on this matter.
The funny thing was... All Muslim Including sayidina abu bakr mandatory to recite shlawat when perform shalat That the shalawat recites was include sayidina Ali, sayidah fatimah along with sayidina hasan and sayidina Husain No scholar in all sect of islam... Exclude ahli kisa and ahli mubahalah as ahlul bayt Allohuma sholi ala sayidina muhammad Wa ala *aali sayidina muhammad* So... Do you understand that fact??
@baraslim Volume 5, Book 57, Number 8: shahi Bukhari Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken Abu Bakr, but he is my brother and my companion (in Islam)."
@baraslim Sahih bukhari Volume 5, Book 57, Number 20: Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya: I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.
@Mohammed Ali these debates take us away from focusing on the real issues and gives Shamzi The opportunity to dominate the debate and avoid discussing the real issues. The lady of Heaven film was irrelevant to this discussion.
Salam, does Bukhari and others not say, Fatima died angry with AbuBakr? Is this not a Sahih hadith? Also, does Bukhari not state: Rasulillah said whoever angers Fatima (a.s) angers me. Even if you want to believe this is about imam Ali (a.s), you can't deny Fatima died angry with AbuBakr and not Ali. How do you explain this? It's also a fact that no one knows where Fatima (a.s) was buried (except imam Ali (a.s)), as requested by Fatima (a.s). On the day of judgement we will face Rasulillah (S), who's side will you be on, Fatima (a.s) or AbuBakr? Do you think Rasulillah (S) will take sides with AbuBakr? Will you dissociate yourself from the people who angered Fatima? Please explain your point of view. I would like to learn.
1. Tell us the whole story. Why was Fatimah radiallahu anha angry? Do Prophets leave behind wealth as inheritance? Who was right, Abu Bakr (who heard and narrated that Prophets don't leave behind wealth) or Fatimah radiallahu anhuma? 2. Ali radiallahu anh gave bay'a to those who angered Fatimah, so according to your logic Ali has a problem with Allah now. 3. Abu Bakr radiallahu anh was the only sahabi who was named sahabi in the Quran 4. Allah praised ALL the muhajireen and ansaar. You base your whole religion on a handful of events in history. Where is your religion in Quran, show me a clear cut verse?
Shamsi was not allowed to watch lady of heaven its haram to watch a movie that is not based on true islam, but he clearly admits that he watched that movie! Tell me i am wrong... He says he did not watch it but if you rewind the video 1min he talks about the movie asif he had seen it , than instantly corrects himself because he know its haram, than he says a brother said it 2 me :) wallahi Shamsi watched that movie
both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 67 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida has been revealed on Ghadir day and for the sake of Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship (walaya) Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 249 Verse 9 in Chapter An-Nisa urges everyone to obey Imam Ali (A.S) and the other Imams (A.S) Sunni: Shavahed Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 202 according to Verse 3 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida, one’s faith is completed by accepting Ghadir and Imam Ali’s (A.S) successorship Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 211 both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 7 in Chapter al-Bayyina is about Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship and that he is the best benefactor Sunni: Dur al-Manthur, verse interpretation that both Shiites and Sunnis agree Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Ra’d introduce Imam Ali (A.S) as the best guide and director for Muslims Sunni: Musnad Ahmad, Chapter 2, Hadith 990 Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Anbiya suggests Imam Ali and other Imams (A.S) the meaning of “those who reminisce (possess) the Message Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, verse interpretation that both Shiites and Sunnis believe Imam Ali (A.S) possesses full insight of the Holy Quran according to Verse 43 in Chapter Al-Ra’d Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 400 “holding fast by the rope Allah (S.W.T) has stretched for you” in Verse 103 in Chapter Al-i-Imran means grasping on belief in Imam Ali’s and other Imam’s (A.S) guardianship Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 168 that both Shiites and Sunnis have identically narrated the famous hadith “Whoever I am his master, this Ali is his master Sunni: Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, Chapter 39, P 297, Hadith 18497 Make sure to confirm books i have read are from Sunni Fiqah if you need more let me know will give you more of those lets follow Quran
Shamsi listen that movie I watched that movie the main producer failed the first time second time an English and Canadian producer they restart and complete that movie! They non Muslim who that make it "but the writer he's a Muslim person!"
In my opinion I use my current knowledge and say that in the end of the day Abu baker and Ali the son in law of Mohamed, died more than a 1000 years ago , and Allah specified us not to be in any sects, I don't understand why we are fighing about something and people who are not here anymore , Islam is islam and our prophet is Mohamad and all of the prophets , it does not matter if anyone is an offspring from them as that does not mean they should be the leaders as they could be totaly evil or sinners like Noah's son and also I am not saying that everyone should accept what i say but consider it. politics from 1400 years ago lead to the cold war between Suadia and Iran and the deaths of many people.
That's exactly what sunah is why fighting over such a thing if someone was bad let allah deal with him we don't curse anyone . But the thing is the shia's re always mentioning that .
Disagreeing and arguing about religion is good thing as it means the religion is alive in our community. Religions that do not have disagreements and arguing going on in them are dead religions such as old pagan cults: nobody even cares about them anyomer. The problem is when arguments about theology go outside the realm of scholarship and academics, and are taken by laymen to the street, thus causing social tensions and fragmenting the society. Making it a fertile soil for political sectarianism and conflicts.
We could collaborate financially and militarily, while leaving our theological differences to be handled by scholars and academic debates on Television. Muslims, sunni or shia, have proven that they could coexist with LGBT, christian, atheis, jewish and secular peoples in the West under liberal irreligious laws. SO why wouldnt we coexist between different sects of Islam that have much more in common than in the West, under agreed upon basic fundamental islamic principles?
if abu bakr had more imaan than imam ali why is it when amru bin wed elaamery was taunting the muslims in the battle of khandaq it was only imam ali who answered the call of the prophet to face him when heaven was promised and the prophet repeated this request three times to give anyone else a chance but no one but imam ali said he will..... also in khaibar why wasnt abu bakr chosen by allah and the prophet to conquer and why did abu bakr try before that and return without victory prompting the prophet to say tomorrow i will give the banner to a man that goes forward and doesnt return without victory and allah and his messenger love him and he loves allah and his messenger? are these not clear instances of who is what and on what level they are? or do you deem getting prodded by his daughter as narrated by her to lead the prayer {all the while a very sick prophet couldnt bring himself to let him continue so he cuts him off and starts the prayer all over again} a sign of imaan?
This is merely not a competition to list virtues of companions and to decide who has better Iman. It is certainly not your place, nor mine. Both companions have passed away and we ask Allah to be pleased with them. Allah has raised their status in their own unique way that is befitting for their characteristics and roles in their society. Only the misguided and the ignorant who would list these virtues and ask questions (Like Why did Allah give this Virtue to this companion without the other?). Allah clearly describes how the behavior should be towards the companions in Chapter 59 verse 10: "And those who come after them will pray, “Our Lord! Forgive us and our fellow believers who preceded us in faith, and do not allow bitterness into our hearts towards those who believe. Our Lord! Indeed, You are Ever Gracious, Most Merciful.”.
@@Abuyu_1098 I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments dear brother. And it’s clear you come from a great place so I commend you. But the reality is to me it’s very clear why it was a point of emphasis from allah and his messenger to show us who was on a unparalleled level and worthy to succeed him carrying this religion forth in it’s true form, such events occurred so you don’t have people making such outlandish baseless claims like the brother did in the video. Which is what I was responding to
You are baising your statement with warfare. What does war has to do with iman. Wallahi sometimes i want to bang my head in the wall when I read such comments. Abu Bakr was not a great fighter like Ali, Omar and Khaled ibn Walid Ra. But if you wanna go that way, who deafeted the Romans and the Persians at the same time? Who opened Jerusalem? Under who's rulership was the golden days of Islam? If we go with your logic then Omar and Khaled ibn El Walid had greater Iman then Ali Ra. We are not vikings, we don't judge people by their ability to fight. Ali Ra was without a doubt one of the top sahaba. And when Abu Bakr al saddiq Ra used to lead the prayer the sahaba said he cried so much that sometimes we didn't even know which surah he was reciting. I don't know exactly what happened and if infact he couldn't finish the prayer and someone had to take over, it's means nothing, it's normal.
@@Fayoumi9 you make some points that I don’t disagree with imaan can be shown in many different ways. But I’m sorry to say at that time warfare was a major part of it the hearts and conviction of religion were tested to see if you are truly willing to die for Allah and his messenger and one man out of all never wavered and never came back ALIVE unless he brought victory and he was willing to die each and every time because his IMAAN tells him paradise awaits anyway. This has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with imaan. And sorry to tell you but Omar was present when the prophet asked three times and he stayed quiet and Khalid bin Waleed came back ALIVE in the battle where Jaafar was martyred and the Muslims were defeated.
@@moeiskandar9745 so all the sahaba that didn't fight amr are kufar in your eyes and only Ali had Iman? Brother be careful with your statement. You are talking without knowledge. Khaled ibn al Waleed wasn't in charge of that battle, but when those in charge was dead his mission was to retreat, because they lost a lot of men. At night he send many horses and men to the other side of the mountain, and in the morning they would come to the muslims camp, and he did it a couple of time so it looked as if reinforcement had arrived so the enemies didn't attack. He was not defeated. Iam sorry to Say but sometimes shias don't make any sense. On one hand you say Ali was the greatest warrior, and defeated amr who was like 1000 men, and he carried the door as a shield when 14 people couldn't carry it, on the other hand you say Omar ibn El Khattab killed Fatima infront of him, and he couldn't defend her. It doesn't make any sense. Ali ra was one of the greatest sahaba and warrior, no doubt about that, and anyone saying he is not, are not believers. Respect all the sahabas. Allah was pleased with them and they were pleased with Allah, who are we to curse them? "As for the foremost-the first of the Emigrants1 and the Helpers2-and those who follow them in goodness, Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. And He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. That is the ultimate triumph." Surah Al tawbah 9:100 Ali, Abu Bakr, Umar etc Ra was amongst those who this verse is about.
According to Christ, the father is the one true god (John 17:3). Christ spoke Aramaic, go look up what god is in Christs language. And put this verse together
I have nothing but respect for my Sunni brothers and sisters (those moderate ones) even if some Wahabis Sunnis claim Shia are kuffar and are killing them in cold blood .We have to look thoroughly at the virtues of Imam Ali compared to the two Khalifa's. what Imam Ali gave to to the Islamic religion from victories in the battlefield and wisdom , equality and justice throughout his time .why where the two not present in the prophets burial why did Fatima die upset towards the two Khalifa's, these questions need to be researched and answered with all honesty and dignity .
If you really have nothing but respect, why don't you quote the hadith in which Fatima was angry at Ali himself. Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated that al-Miswar ibn Makhramah said: ‘Ali proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl. When Faatimah heard of that she came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said to him: Your people are saying that you do not get angry for the sake of your daughters, and ‘Ali is going to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and I heard him when he recited the shahaadah, then he said: “I gave a daughter of mine in marriage to Abu’l-‘Aas ibn al-Rabee’, and when he spoke he told me the truth. Faatimah bint Muhammad is a part of me, and I do not like for her to be hurt. By Allaah, the daughter of the Messenger of Allaah and the daughter of the enemy of Allaah will not be joined together as wives of one man.” So ‘Ali abandoned that proposal. So basically, it was ALI himself who hurt her and caused her to be andry, and he was the reason why the prophet said that, so why don't you accuse Ali of angering Allah? Also, Fatima got angry at Abu bakr because he decided to follow the ruling of the prophet pbuh himself about his inheritance, so are you gonna tell me that Abu Bakr should have disobeyed the messenger of God to make Fatima happy ?
@@osumanaaa9982 t The first hadith (tradition) in ‘Elal al-Sharaye’ is regarding a person who lied to Lady Fatima Zahra about Ali seeking the hand of Abul Jahl’s daughter for marriage. In reality, there was no such incident and the false news about Ali bin Abi Talib (as) was spread by his (as) enemies who wanted to create discord between Fatima and Ali, peace be upon them.(therefore its a false hadeeth )The alleged story of Ali bin Abi Talib (as) intending to marry Abu Jahl’s daughter is not conforming the facts and realities in history because Abu Jahl’s daughter resided in Makkah whereas Ali (as) had married Fatima (sa) in Medina and were living there. The fact is that this hadith had been fabricated by the opponents in order to steer public mind from the caliphs to Ali (as). They wanted to direct naïve masses’ attention to Ali (as) rather than to the sufferings and pains which Fatima (sa) received at the hands of the caliphs.
@@osumanaaa9982 The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is part of me - what saddens her saddens me, and what pleases her pleases me.”Al-Sunan Al-Kubra, v. 7, p. 64, the chapter on what will transpire on the Day of Judgement; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, in the margins of Al-Musnad, v. 5, p. 96. your argument is false
@@hman3966 You're making a claim without substantiating it. If you're gonna label the hadith as fabrication, you need to have at least proofs. If you're gonna only accept the narrations that suit you and reject those that refute you, then that's double standards. Also you seem to be using Ali's achievements as a proof for something, but let's not forget he's not the only one who has done things for the sake of Allah. Abu bakr faced the apostates and compiled the Quran, Umar conquered Jerusalem and Uthman standardized the Quran. We love Ali too, maybe in a more appropriate way than you guys do.
Then stop lying about them, because the one who is doing the killing of the sunnah are the shiite in Syria and Iraq, the shite live unharmed in Saudi Arabia where the wahabis you are claiming killed you reign.
Who stole Bagh e Fidaq ? Who Attacked on Bibi Fatima's as Home ? Who Burnt Door On Bibi Fatima saa? Who teared Holy Prophet's Will presented by Bibi Fatima saa? Who called Hazrat Ali as Bibi Fatima saa and Their Sons as liers? Who Broke Bibi Fatima's saa fingers? Who was responsible for Bibi Fatima saa and Hazrat Mohsin as Murders ? try asking your forefathers if they also dont know try reading your own books still hard easy google it
@@ZainSha1😂😂😂 .. Baghe fidaq stoled.. Ur Imam silent.... Wife killed... Ur imam silent.... Burn door on his wife.... Imam silent... Can't protect sunnah.... Imam silent... Can't protect caliphate... Imam silent.. Can't protect Quran... Imam silent.... Imam Ali daughter stolen by The Great Umar Ibn e khattab RA.... Ur imam silent. .... Why ur version of ali is soooo weak 💀
He never gave permission to lead the prayers , that's your false perspective .This Shamshi dude if he has the balls should debate a true Shia Islamic scholar .., but I think a true scholar would not waste time with a babbler seeking YT glory .
I thought that ONLY and ONLY the word of Allah, the Quran is 100% preserved with ZERO man add-ons. How could the hadit books or anything in this world be on its level. Sorry brothers and sisters but I find it very hard to say with absolute certainty that, this or that hadit book is 100% correct when I for sure know its only been protected by us humans. The Quran in my believe is the only 100% true word and unchanged message of god.
@shamsi. Is your issue with the depiction or the content? You mentioned depiction is not allowed but not why? Depiction is only an issue of it done in an offensive way. As in I am not sure why people would find a voice with no face as offensive. The content however is someone another's opinion and depiction of historical events which should not be objected to but discussed. Also you mentioned Abu Bakr lead a prayer while the prophet saw was ill. This was not by virtue. 1) The prophet had in fact ordered Abu Bakr, Omar and the other companions to leave Medina and follow Usamas army while appointing Usama the leader of the army which they objected to because of his age and other reasons. Abu bakr and Omar did in fact not leave Medina as they were instructed by the prophet along with a group of others causing confusion and stayed until the prophets death. The prophet only ordered that Ali a.s stay their with him but they hung around till the prophet died. This is absolutely clear in hadith books even including ibn kam e il Jawziyah. 2) Many people lead prayers while the prophet was alive. Does that mean they are all successors? 3) There are many narrations that state that the prophet actually came and lead the prayer after Abu Bakr did the Takbir. 4) Even if he did lead a prayer, I can certainly tell you that the Prophet saw and Ali A.s were not their in the prayer he lead. For starters, no prophet prays behind a companion. Also the prophet did not say you are the successor of all the muslims because you lead a particular prayer. Although he did on the contrary place Usama as the leader of the Army in their presence whilst and also Appointed Ali at Qadeer in the presence.
any depiction of the prophet or Allah is not allowed in Islam and your opinions dont mean anything in these matter. you dont need to know why of everything just follow the deen.
I have seen the film of “The Message” but I never heard anything about our Beloved Prophet’s voice being used at all in the film. Maybe it was edited out afterwards but I watched it as a new Muslim a few months after reverting but now after reading deep into the Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet ﷺ I see that there is no need for a film to be made at all, we can see the beauty of his character all throughout the his (ﷺ) Sunnah. May Allah Azzawajal keep us firm upon following the Quran and the Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad ﷺ strictly in the understanding of the first 3 pious generations.
they are not talking about the movie ' The Message '' but '' Lady Of Heaven'' which is a 2021 British historical drama film written by the Twelver Shia cleric Yasser Al-Habib .
I'm not a Muslim but I love reading about Medieval History. The Muslim led Andalucía was founded by a descendant of the Umayyad caliphate (Sunni) in the late 700. The Fatimid Caliphate (Shia) started more than 100 years later in 909 and far from Spain.
You get your history from Wikipedia
@@MOHAMMED-qw5ug Nope, not from Wikipedia..
Yes! I didn't appreciate this history when I was in secondary school...now I find it so interesting
@@helenteacher2615 shia always get angry when they hear the truth 🤣
@@Thegreatone77 truth? You know what the truth is? The truth is Fatima (SA) died unhappy with Abu Bakr because he didn’t give her her share of right from the property of Fadak. Written in sahih bukhari. Wallahi, those who upset the Ahlul Bayt (AS), upset the Prophet (SAW) & Allah (SWT).
May Allah reward brother Shamsi for his heart work 🙌🏻
The guy with a glove saying whatever comes to his mind honestly
❤ ❤❤ big love for brother shamsi I am from Pakistan we love Beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH more than our self we can not become momin untill we love Nabi Kareem more than our self and all our family
This is the way of Ahlusunnah to have a civil debate. Love brother Shamsi. Indeed its a red line how they can even portray and attribute any voice to Rasul Allah ﷺ . His ﷺ shimail is enough to for any believer to feel His ﷺ presence.
No matter what mo deen is a good respectful guy .
Mashallah shamsi has aloooots of information about anything and any book. May Allah protect him.
Abu Bakr our khaleefa ❤❤❤
So you love the khaleefa not appointed by the prophet and hated by the daughter of the prophet when she died? Are you crazy? You love him because you’re blind.
@@yourmomshouse8993 Are you insane... Prophet( swaws) commanded Abu bakr( rd) to lead the prayers while he was ill... Abu bakr( rd) was the imam of Ali ibn talib( rd) .... Abu bakr( rd) never hated the prophet( swaws) daughter... you been seeking knowledge from the shia 👿....
@@yourmomshouse8993
Ali(ra) is reported to have said in shia book:
و إنا لنرى أبا بكر أحق بها - أي بالخلافة - إنه لصاحب الغار. و إنا لنعرف سنه. و لقد أمرنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم بالصلاة خلفه و هو حي )))). نهج البلاغة، تحقيق العالم الشيعي الشريف الرضي 1 / 132
Ali(ra) said: “And we see Abu Bakr more fit to receive it (Caliphate) For he is Sahib Al Ghar (Mentioned in the Quran as the second of Two whom Allah is their third) and we know his age and the Prophet PBUH had ordered us to pray Behind him when he was Alive”. (Nahjul Balagha, Tahqeeq Allamah Shareef el Redah 1/132).
@@yourmomshouse8993 Ali said: “If I didn’t feel that he (Abu Bakr) deserved to rule, I would have not allowed him to do so.” (Sharh Nahj al Balagha by Ibn Abi al Hadeed vol.2 pg.45)
@@Spark12429 have you read sermon 3 called shaqshaqia? Read that then we can have a valid discussion.
Walahi Ali would cry if anyone praised him over Abu Bakar, the companions of the prophet(peace and blessings be upon him) loved each other and they loved Abu Bakar greatly after the prophet of Allah. And it is part of our religion to love them and ask Allah to forgive us and them. May Allah guide us all, ameen.
Bro Abu bakr used to get drunk, imam ali never drank
@@mjkk6205 how will this benefit you! Allah already promised forgiveness to them. And all commanded us to ask forgiveness from Allah for ourselves and those who Proceeded us in faith. Allah didn’t say look for their mistakes. And you can’t BLEIVE how much help Abu Bakar provided to the Prophet SAWS. STOP IT! Walahi leave your hatred for the prophet’s companions. And even more the prophet promised paradise to Abu Bakar. Who are you and I to every say anything displeasing about Abu Bakar. And why would it matter even if he drank before Islam, a lot of the companions used to do un-Islamic things before Islam, but don’t you know that Allah forgives All the sins done before your acceptance of Islam. And even after excepting Islam, Allah is still the most forgiving! May Allah guide us, ameen.
@@mjkk6205 we have reports that Ali r.a drank and lead prayer
I won’t say anything bad about Abu Bakr, and I even respect my Sunni brothers. But the Prophet gave Valiyat to Mowla Ali. Of course we will always until we die praise Imam Ali AS over Abu Bakr. Mo Deen is not a proper representatives for Shias, he dresses like a middle schooler.
@@edanisgreat5118 I don't F with Ali I respect Mo Deen
Ali RA is not mentioned in the Quran. Please be careful. He is of high importance in our deen but he is not mentioned in the book of Allah. Our Shia brothers and sisters must learn the truth and follow the nabi pubh and the Quran. Full stop.
Imam Ali is mentioned in the Quran. Calm down pal
@@bicmanflame3455 no he is not and again you are a Shia so ofc you would say that. Sorry to wake you up from your dream but he is not.
you need to read Quran first to find His name, if you need more let me know otherwise check your DNA please!
both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 67 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida has been revealed on Ghadir day and for the sake of Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship (walaya)
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 249
Verse 9 in Chapter An-Nisa urges everyone to obey Imam Ali (A.S) and the other Imams (A.S)
Sunni: Shavahed Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 202
according to Verse 3 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida, one’s faith is completed by accepting Ghadir and Imam Ali’s (A.S) successorship
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 211
both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 7 in Chapter al-Bayyina is about Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship and that he is the best benefactor
Sunni: Dur al-Manthur, verse interpretation
that both Shiites and Sunnis agree Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Ra’d introduce Imam Ali (A.S) as the best guide and director for Muslims
Sunni: Musnad Ahmad, Chapter 2, Hadith 990
Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Anbiya suggests Imam Ali and other Imams (A.S) the meaning of “those who reminisce (possess) the Message
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, verse interpretation
that both Shiites and Sunnis believe Imam Ali (A.S) possesses full insight of the Holy Quran according to Verse 43 in Chapter Al-Ra’d
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 400
“holding fast by the rope Allah (S.W.T) has stretched for you” in Verse 103 in Chapter Al-i-Imran means grasping on belief in Imam Ali’s and other Imam’s (A.S) guardianship
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 168
that both Shiites and Sunnis have identically narrated the famous hadith “Whoever I am his master, this Ali is his master
Sunni: Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, Chapter 39, P 297, Hadith 18497
@@bicmanflame3455 oh man, do we seriously still try to sell this ? It’s time to moooove on.
@@bicmanflame3455 bruh, WAKE UP
10:38
It’s too sad to see what Shias is doing to tell us that Imam Ali radei Allah anh mentioned in the Quran. Alhammdulillah that Quran is protected by millions of Muslims so people like this guy can’t just say whatever he wants to say.
Lmao this guy is single handedly destroying the shia's image, Do your own research about Shiite beliefs instead of looking at these clowns
SURAH 2:134 - That was a community that had already gone before. For them is what they earned and for you is what you have earned. And you will not be accountable for what they have done.
Christians: "no thats not right, anyone could be punished for others sin"
(قَالَ هَٰذَا صِرَاطٌ عَلَيَّ مُسْتَقِيمٌ)
اختلفت القرّاء في قراءة قوله ( قَالَ هَذَا صِرَاطٌ عَلَيَّ مُسْتَقِيمٌ ) فقرأه عامَّة قراء الحجاز والمدينة والكوفة والبصرة ( هَذَا صِرَاطٌ عَلَيَّ مُسْتَقِيمٌ ) بمعنى: هذا طريق إليّ مستقيم.
Masha'allah
Masha'Allah
My God protect you
Very nice video
Thank you
Jazakum Allah khier
May Allah guide us all to the right path 🙏
May Allah guide all the shia to the right way to follow the Qur'an and sunnah.
Jamal laughed at shamsi telling modeen to come to his arabic classes 😂
May Allah bless the brother shamsi
He really said nta m9wd 😂
"Go back to where china" hahahahaahaa
Bro I’m a Sunni, and I actually get upset for the Shia community when this guy debates on their behalf. Like please bring someone learned. How can you not correctly recite a verse from the Quran (which by the way, is supposed to be the IMPLICIT reference to Ali RA - which it is not)… like if the Ayah is that important for the Shiie school of thought, it should roll of his tongue. I’m sorry but the guy is a joke and I’m trying to be as nice as possible…. Shamsi needs to debate someone a little more… qualified?
Respect to you for seperating the man from the madheb
@@exhilitydraws3417 I mean there needs to be some type of benefit to the discussion. That can't happen when one of the parties is either ignorant or insincere.
@@exhilitydraws3417 It ain't a madhap, it's a different religion
@@SS-ho8jx how? There's always different interpretation to life enjoy the differences
@@8heavyhchamp8 The message is one and it's clear
Shamsi said "There are 2 Tabari, One Shia source and one Sunni source". This is true and Farid showed books from both of them. they have the same name.
If anyone is interested then let me know and I will try to find the video of Farid. the video is either about the Battle of Jamal, the killing of Usman or the karbala.
Me
Im tryna ge that black hat the brothers wearing who knows where i can get wun?
This is the first time I have seen MO is very quiet . May Allah swt guide him towards right path .
Change the clickbait,
We love every sahaba radiallahu anhum ajmaeen
What is the name of the movie of the prophet brother shamsi..
What movie are you guys talking about that they used the prophet voice on a computer?
ya Ali CANNOT madad
یا الله امدد لنا منك....
Ya Ali asks for madad
@@osamamanan2723 huh?
@@zahirkhan-yq3gr he asks for help. You dont get it?😂
@@osamamanan2723 yes He used to asks for help what u r trying to say here??
We really need to start building bridges with the shia community. Start speaking with kindness. Id imagine shias are sincere in their beliefs and only seek the truth as are the sunnis. We really need to get this idea that we can not speak to each other because of what happened 1300 years ago. We should really come together and talk as brothers and trade knowledge instead of slandering each other
When someone is cursing your own mother and the companions of the prophets ! How do you imagine being kind to them !? They have fed this hatred since their childhood !
Yet alhamdulelah we have many dua at that go and debates with the shias , they are the ones thats run away always ! Yet they call themselves ahl albayt followers !
@@MrCaprice90 Exactly. Many shia have been to speaker's corner and they were very rude and insulting. They are taught to insult and show anger when their arguments start falling apart.
@@MrCaprice90 So if Muawiyah cursed Imam Ali (AS), Hazrat Bibi Fatima Zehra (SA) PBUH and HF didn't speak to Abu Bakr, is that bad. Bro, bro, bro there's so many proof like cmon man.
@@osumanaaa9982 Bro...
@@HiHi-ek1dd
Thats your problem you just only hear and don’t go and search, give me a 1 sahih hadith about moaiah cursing ali straight and forward
I will wait
Brother Shamsi
Please don't west your time may Allah bless and guide the other brother
Shams don't let no one talk
my brother shamsi cames the park to speak only, it seems its difficult for him to listen
What movie were they talking about?
Does anyone else think that face-underwear is also an affront to Muhammad(saw) 🤔
Respect to Shamsi for walking away cos he could really embarrass modeen to the point where he cant show his face in speakers corner
Asalam ma laykum in these blessed days may allah bless and ease the sufferings of the ummah and may allah unite the ummah upon the quran and sunnah and may allah have mercy on all those that have passed away before us and may Allah have mercy on us when we pass away and may allah cure all those that have a sickness and a disability and may allah grant them a cure that leaves no aliment and may allah protect the muslims from hellfire and from the fitnah of dajjal and may allah answer all our prayers ameen
My brothers, the Messenger of God..He is the rank and rank of the Messenger of God, rather he is the master of the elite of the five messengers..Prophecy is the stage of the beginning and the end..The Prophet is a follower of the one before him and he is Jesus.
This is what syeh hassan ibn farhan al maliky said
Shia have no logic, even claiming that they are reasonable man...
علَى + ي (المتكلم) = علَيَّ
Not
عَلِيّ
Don't let these doubts get to you.
Go and study, surely knowledge will protect you.
How can these guys argue with each other when they have their own hadiths?
ٱلَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَصَٰبَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّآ إِلَيْهِ رَٰجِعُونَ
Shamsi treating Shia better than he treats the Muslims.
This guy is Moroccan love Morocco
He is Algerian akh
is Mo deen okay? brothers face looked zapped in the video? jeez bro
Yeh he looks ill
He should have put the recitation of the Ayah and the case is closed.
Modeen. Please take of your gangstermask (Lol)
Of course Imam Ali is the successor of the Prophet
As an Arab, I notesed all of the Shiaah debates are based on false understanding of the Arabic Language and most of them don't uderstand it at all.
As are Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman
@@shakibhussain6931 And Ali 😅
@@ahmedneworld1938 Of course Ali too. They are the rightly guided Caliphs
Of course, he's the first successor of the prophet peace be upon them both.
I still don't understand why anyone is giving the the time of the day to Mo Deen..seriously why do these dawah guys give him any platform to these Jahil...!!!! When he comes to you just turn your back to this arrogant individual...he is a hypocrite of the highest level...
I think one of the Shiah Tabari wrote “Dala'il al-Imama”
The Sunni Tabari (Muhammad ibn Jarir ibn Yazid) wrote “Tafsir al-Tabari”
Easy to check which Tabari the Hadith is from
whos the other tabari?
Tareekh e tabari@@ltagames01
Please doa that i be forgiven from allah and i be discharge from home
Bro how can he lie about QUR'AN. Na'audhubillah. May Allah guide him to the right path.
As an Arab, I notesed all of the Shiaah debates are based on false understanding of the Arabic Language and most of them don't uderstand it at all.
So true. May Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ guide them all. Ameen
According to who, you ?! You ignorant, the basics of Arabic language was put by Imam Ali AS originally and you call his followers ignorant of the language! I swear the youngest non-Arabic one of his followers knows more in the Arabic language than your whole bunch of fake wahhabi scholars nowadays!
10:30 😮😮😮😮
Honestly I just watch mo deen videos not to learn or for the dash.. I just watch it for the entertainment
Don't waste your time brother shamsi with these shia fools
As an Arab, I notesed all of the Shiaah debates are based on false understanding of the Arabic Language and most of them don't uderstand it at all.
Quran 49:11
@@ahmedneworld1938because they have their own scholars and interpretations
Br Shamsi at his best
Are they friends now, I don't think I've seen either of these brothers have a friendly conversation
Muhammad: Im the city of knowledge and Ali is the gate.
Muhammad: Quran is with Ali and Ali is with Quran
Muhammad: For who I am the leader, Ali is your leader.
Sunni Islam- finished
Umar Ibn e Khattab RA much by faarrrrrrrrrrrrr better 🏴💓
Reference for first statement pls. And I remind you to refrain from lying about Allah and his prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
"And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed."
(Surah Al-An'am, 6:21)
> "Say, 'Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.'"
(Surah Yunus, 10:69)
"Whoever tells lies about me deliberately, let him take his seat in Hellfire."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith 1291; Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3)
The most solid reason why Muslim don't allow film painting of a prophet "walamyakullahuu kufuwan ahad"and nothing is like him,same for beloved prophet for whole we are here to mentally glorifying thinking about prophet ,you know every sunnah is to glorify Allah means thought about holy prophet how he did yes you can change,and at any mood the most thrilling and beautiful face you imagine you can say even that is not his glimpse but its from him the holy prophet of Allah
How dare mo deen Talk about Quran that way, اعوذ بالله، may Allah guide him
The thing is you know if someone in a majlis said while talking a priest said Mohammad a guy,in a rude way a ottoman soldier listened he punished the whole listener and than that place was made harram even to sow sead where that majlis was standing for seven years hearing any disrespect even talking that anything of heaven is more beautiful than sweat fragrance of rasool Allah saw is,blasphemy
Subhanallah , brother we both need to learn our religion better … is this from Quran and sunnah? … May Allah guide us to the straight path and make it soft and gentle happy and healthy upon us and our families ameen
6:30 lol
There is only one name mentioned in the Qur'an except all the prophets and that is if zaid bin harisa (33:37)
These Shias are completely blinded in their own terminology
He really added stuff to the Quran 😳 what in the hell is going on???
What's with that thumbnail brother? Fear Allah
Nta m9ouwad ga3 😂😭 shamsi knows what time it is
Labaik allah humma la baik! I AM HERE OH ALLAH I Am here!
Harun to Musa? harun died before Musa, and Yusha was after Musa. So look at the context of the saying and when and why it was said. Jeez guys, basic research will take you out of the fold of shiasm!
And Harun a.s was a prophet. So r they trying to say that Ali r.a is a prophet as well?
@@mystichalaly8083 when it is mentioned from a sahih narration to them,
"If there were to be a prophet after me, it would have been Umar."
(Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 3686; Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 12429)
They try to provide this daleel where prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam never told that he would be such that
bro some of this Chiaa boys are going wild against suna followers .i hope they now see that we r not the enemy
Allah-u-akbar.
Moo Deen?? Sorry to say,he didn't bring any posivity in Islam..more to negative impact..
And you ?? What did you bring for the comments
@@ferhattahar7372 see how Moo Deen interact with other muslim debaters within years.. how about when he debate with Mohamad Hijab?? Remember what Mohamad Hijab told him?? Unless you're Shia fanatics
I’m not sure why brother Shamsi even gives this kinghar time of the day. He is a clown. Feel sorry for the people that have to call him thier son.
@@Spark12429 when did I say otherwise. I am a Sunni and I have studied shia sect for a number of years. He is a clown. A clown doesn’t spit such rubbish as he has. If you are supporting him you an even bigger clown.
@@Spark12429 so him ridiculing our mother Aisha ra is speaking the truth? Y
This film is haram or noo Omer R.A
Did he really say Imam Abu Hanifah r.h was weak in hadith?
Yes. And majority of scholars including sheikh Abu Yusuf as thawri (r.a), imam Ahmed ibn hanbal r.a, allama Albani r.a and many others of his time and later time agree on this matter.
Rabi yahdeena
Its not that their cereberal activity is de generated. Its just that they are cursed for ever...
Abu baker sadeeq is the number one
The funny thing was...
All Muslim
Including sayidina abu bakr
mandatory to recite shlawat when perform shalat
That the shalawat recites was include sayidina Ali, sayidah fatimah along with sayidina hasan and sayidina Husain
No scholar in all sect of islam... Exclude ahli kisa and ahli mubahalah as ahlul bayt
Allohuma sholi ala sayidina muhammad
Wa ala *aali sayidina muhammad*
So...
Do you understand that fact??
@@baraslimyes Abu Bakar Siddique is best after prophet Muhammad SAW 💓
@@ShakeebNawaz009
And the daleel??
Or is just your personal subjective opinion base on like....
@baraslim Volume 5, Book 57, Number 8: shahi Bukhari
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken Abu Bakr, but he is my brother and my companion (in Islam)."
@baraslim Sahih bukhari Volume 5, Book 57, Number 20:
Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya:
I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.
Wasn’t Abu bakr supposed to go with Osama’s army?
He didint when the prophet saw reslized he woke up and pushed abi bakr in the middle of the prafer count the whole thing
قال هذا صراط عليا مستقيم
Shamsi should've stayed and exposed Mo Deen further, he had him by the short and curly's
@Mohammed Ali these debates take us away from focusing on the real issues and gives Shamzi The opportunity to dominate the debate and avoid discussing the real issues. The lady of Heaven film was irrelevant to this discussion.
Salam, does Bukhari and others not say, Fatima died angry with AbuBakr? Is this not a Sahih hadith? Also, does Bukhari not state: Rasulillah said whoever angers Fatima (a.s) angers me. Even if you want to believe this is about imam Ali (a.s), you can't deny Fatima died angry with AbuBakr and not Ali. How do you explain this? It's also a fact that no one knows where Fatima (a.s) was buried (except imam Ali (a.s)), as requested by Fatima (a.s). On the day of judgement we will face Rasulillah (S), who's side will you be on, Fatima (a.s) or AbuBakr? Do you think Rasulillah (S) will take sides with AbuBakr? Will you dissociate yourself from the people who angered Fatima? Please explain your point of view. I would like to learn.
1. Tell us the whole story. Why was Fatimah radiallahu anha angry? Do Prophets leave behind wealth as inheritance? Who was right, Abu Bakr (who heard and narrated that Prophets don't leave behind wealth) or Fatimah radiallahu anhuma?
2. Ali radiallahu anh gave bay'a to those who angered Fatimah, so according to your logic Ali has a problem with Allah now.
3. Abu Bakr radiallahu anh was the only sahabi who was named sahabi in the Quran
4. Allah praised ALL the muhajireen and ansaar. You base your whole religion on a handful of events in history. Where is your religion in Quran, show me a clear cut verse?
Shamsi was not allowed to watch lady of heaven its haram to watch a movie that is not based on true islam, but he clearly admits that he watched that movie! Tell me i am wrong...
He says he did not watch it but if you rewind the video 1min he talks about the movie asif he had seen it , than instantly corrects himself because he know its haram, than he says a brother said it 2 me :) wallahi Shamsi watched that movie
That's all you concluded from the whole video?
Why some shia Muslims as I noticed when they come to debate they cover their, I saw some videos
I like the narrative to debate shia only from the Quran.
both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 67 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida has been revealed on Ghadir day and for the sake of Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship (walaya)
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 249
Verse 9 in Chapter An-Nisa urges everyone to obey Imam Ali (A.S) and the other Imams (A.S)
Sunni: Shavahed Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 202
according to Verse 3 in Chapter Al-Ma’ida, one’s faith is completed by accepting Ghadir and Imam Ali’s (A.S) successorship
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, Hadith 211
both Shiites and Sunnis believe Verse 7 in Chapter al-Bayyina is about Imam Ali’s (A.S) guardianship and that he is the best benefactor
Sunni: Dur al-Manthur, verse interpretation
that both Shiites and Sunnis agree Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Ra’d introduce Imam Ali (A.S) as the best guide and director for Muslims
Sunni: Musnad Ahmad, Chapter 2, Hadith 990
Verse 7 in Chapter Al-Anbiya suggests Imam Ali and other Imams (A.S) the meaning of “those who reminisce (possess) the Message
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, verse interpretation
that both Shiites and Sunnis believe Imam Ali (A.S) possesses full insight of the Holy Quran according to Verse 43 in Chapter Al-Ra’d
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 400
“holding fast by the rope Allah (S.W.T) has stretched for you” in Verse 103 in Chapter Al-i-Imran means grasping on belief in Imam Ali’s and other Imam’s (A.S) guardianship
Sunni: Shavahed at-Tanzil, Vol. 1, P 168
that both Shiites and Sunnis have identically narrated the famous hadith “Whoever I am his master, this Ali is his master
Sunni: Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, Chapter 39, P 297, Hadith 18497
Make sure to confirm books i have read are from Sunni Fiqah if you need more let me know will give you more of those lets follow Quran
Shamsi listen that movie I watched that movie the main producer failed the first time second time an English and Canadian producer they restart and complete that movie! They non Muslim who that make it "but the writer he's a Muslim person!"
In my opinion I use my current knowledge and say that in the end of the day Abu baker and Ali the son in law of Mohamed, died more than a 1000 years ago , and Allah specified us not to be in any sects, I don't understand why we are fighing about something and people who are not here anymore , Islam is islam and our prophet is Mohamad and all of the prophets , it does not matter if anyone is an offspring from them as that does not mean they should be the leaders as they could be totaly evil or sinners like Noah's son and also I am not saying that everyone should accept what i say but consider it. politics from 1400 years ago lead to the cold war between Suadia and Iran and the deaths of many people.
That's exactly what sunah is why fighting over such a thing if someone was bad let allah deal with him we don't curse anyone . But the thing is the shia's re always mentioning that .
Disagreeing and arguing about religion is good thing as it means the religion is alive in our community. Religions that do not have disagreements and arguing going on in them are dead religions such as old pagan cults: nobody even cares about them anyomer.
The problem is when arguments about theology go outside the realm of scholarship and academics, and are taken by laymen to the street, thus causing social tensions and fragmenting the society. Making it a fertile soil for political sectarianism and conflicts.
We could collaborate financially and militarily, while leaving our theological differences to be handled by scholars and academic debates on Television.
Muslims, sunni or shia, have proven that they could coexist with LGBT, christian, atheis, jewish and secular peoples in the West under liberal irreligious laws. SO why wouldnt we coexist between different sects of Islam that have much more in common than in the West, under agreed upon basic fundamental islamic principles?
the movies are great thanks god they did that i hope they do more movies like that Allahuakbar
No aisha appointed abu bakr to lead prayer and the prophet came and removed him
There's literally no evidence. Provide me authentic source and I'll become shia
@You_rstudent There definitely is sources and go study. I don't waste my time with people who deny hadoth left and right
While this No Deen is obviously a mushrik, قال هذا صراط عليٌّ مستقيم is read by Ya'qub al-Hadrami........
if abu bakr had more imaan than imam ali why is it when amru bin wed elaamery was taunting the muslims in the battle of khandaq it was only imam ali who answered the call of the prophet to face him when heaven was promised and the prophet repeated this request three times to give anyone else a chance but no one but imam ali said he will..... also in khaibar why wasnt abu bakr chosen by allah and the prophet to conquer and why did abu bakr try before that and return without victory prompting the prophet to say tomorrow i will give the banner to a man that goes forward and doesnt return without victory and allah and his messenger love him and he loves allah and his messenger? are these not clear instances of who is what and on what level they are? or do you deem getting prodded by his daughter as narrated by her to lead the prayer {all the while a very sick prophet couldnt bring himself to let him continue so he cuts him off and starts the prayer all over again} a sign of imaan?
This is merely not a competition to list virtues of companions and to decide who has better Iman. It is certainly not your place, nor mine. Both companions have passed away and we ask Allah to be pleased with them. Allah has raised their status in their own unique way that is befitting for their characteristics and roles in their society. Only the misguided and the ignorant who would list these virtues and ask questions (Like Why did Allah give this Virtue to this companion without the other?). Allah clearly describes how the behavior should be towards the companions in Chapter 59 verse 10: "And those who come after them will pray, “Our Lord! Forgive us and our fellow believers who preceded us in faith, and do not allow bitterness into our hearts towards those who believe. Our Lord! Indeed, You are Ever Gracious, Most Merciful.”.
@@Abuyu_1098 I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments dear brother. And it’s clear you come from a great place so I commend you. But the reality is to me it’s very clear why it was a point of emphasis from allah and his messenger to show us who was on a unparalleled level and worthy to succeed him carrying this religion forth in it’s true form, such events occurred so you don’t have people making such outlandish baseless claims like the brother did in the video. Which is what I was responding to
You are baising your statement with warfare. What does war has to do with iman. Wallahi sometimes i want to bang my head in the wall when I read such comments. Abu Bakr was not a great fighter like Ali, Omar and Khaled ibn Walid Ra. But if you wanna go that way, who deafeted the Romans and the Persians at the same time? Who opened Jerusalem? Under who's rulership was the golden days of Islam? If we go with your logic then Omar and Khaled ibn El Walid had greater Iman then Ali Ra. We are not vikings, we don't judge people by their ability to fight. Ali Ra was without a doubt one of the top sahaba.
And when Abu Bakr al saddiq Ra used to lead the prayer the sahaba said he cried so much that sometimes we didn't even know which surah he was reciting. I don't know exactly what happened and if infact he couldn't finish the prayer and someone had to take over, it's means nothing, it's normal.
@@Fayoumi9 you make some points that I don’t disagree with imaan can be shown in many different ways. But I’m sorry to say at that time warfare was a major part of it the hearts and conviction of religion were tested to see if you are truly willing to die for Allah and his messenger and one man out of all never wavered and never came back ALIVE unless he brought victory and he was willing to die each and every time because his IMAAN tells him paradise awaits anyway. This has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with imaan. And sorry to tell you but Omar was present when the prophet asked three times and he stayed quiet and Khalid bin Waleed came back ALIVE in the battle where Jaafar was martyred and the Muslims were defeated.
@@moeiskandar9745 so all the sahaba that didn't fight amr are kufar in your eyes and only Ali had Iman? Brother be careful with your statement. You are talking without knowledge.
Khaled ibn al Waleed wasn't in charge of that battle, but when those in charge was dead his mission was to retreat, because they lost a lot of men. At night he send many horses and men to the other side of the mountain, and in the morning they would come to the muslims camp, and he did it a couple of time so it looked as if reinforcement had arrived so the enemies didn't attack. He was not defeated.
Iam sorry to Say but sometimes shias don't make any sense. On one hand you say Ali was the greatest warrior, and defeated amr who was like 1000 men, and he carried the door as a shield when 14 people couldn't carry it, on the other hand you say Omar ibn El Khattab killed Fatima infront of him, and he couldn't defend her. It doesn't make any sense.
Ali ra was one of the greatest sahaba and warrior, no doubt about that, and anyone saying he is not, are not believers. Respect all the sahabas. Allah was pleased with them and they were pleased with Allah, who are we to curse them?
"As for the foremost-the first of the Emigrants1 and the Helpers2-and those who follow them in goodness, Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. And He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. That is the ultimate triumph." Surah Al tawbah 9:100
Ali, Abu Bakr, Umar etc Ra was amongst those who this verse is about.
Elon Musk is trying to send us to Mars and ya’ll keep fighting about this still?
Shut up
Christ is Lord!
under the god🤔
According to Christ, the father is the one true god (John 17:3). Christ spoke Aramaic, go look up what god is in Christs language. And put this verse together
What exactly are you saying by Christ is Lord?@@4kproduction162
I doubt this guy will ever leave his batil way .
I have nothing but respect for my Sunni brothers and sisters (those moderate ones) even if some Wahabis Sunnis claim Shia are kuffar and are killing them in cold blood .We have to look thoroughly at the virtues of Imam Ali compared to the two Khalifa's. what Imam Ali gave to to the Islamic religion from victories in the battlefield and wisdom , equality and justice throughout his time .why where the two not present in the prophets burial why did Fatima die upset towards the two Khalifa's, these questions need to be researched and answered with all honesty and dignity .
If you really have nothing but respect, why don't you quote the hadith in which Fatima was angry at Ali himself. Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated that al-Miswar ibn Makhramah said: ‘Ali proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl. When Faatimah heard of that she came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said to him: Your people are saying that you do not get angry for the sake of your daughters, and ‘Ali is going to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and I heard him when he recited the shahaadah, then he said: “I gave a daughter of mine in marriage to Abu’l-‘Aas ibn al-Rabee’, and when he spoke he told me the truth. Faatimah bint Muhammad is a part of me, and I do not like for her to be hurt. By Allaah, the daughter of the Messenger of Allaah and the daughter of the enemy of Allaah will not be joined together as wives of one man.” So ‘Ali abandoned that proposal.
So basically, it was ALI himself who hurt her and caused her to be andry, and he was the reason why the prophet said that, so why don't you accuse Ali of angering Allah?
Also, Fatima got angry at Abu bakr because he decided to follow the ruling of the prophet pbuh himself about his inheritance, so are you gonna tell me that Abu Bakr should have disobeyed the messenger of God to make Fatima happy ?
@@osumanaaa9982 t The first hadith (tradition) in ‘Elal al-Sharaye’ is regarding a person who lied to Lady Fatima Zahra about Ali seeking the hand of Abul Jahl’s daughter for marriage. In reality, there was no such incident and the false news about Ali bin Abi Talib (as) was spread by his (as) enemies who wanted to create discord between Fatima and Ali, peace be upon them.(therefore its a false hadeeth )The alleged story of Ali bin Abi Talib (as) intending to marry Abu Jahl’s daughter is not conforming the facts and realities in history because Abu Jahl’s daughter resided in Makkah whereas Ali (as) had married Fatima (sa) in Medina and were living there. The fact is that this hadith had been fabricated by the opponents in order to steer public mind from the caliphs to Ali (as). They wanted to direct naïve masses’ attention to Ali (as) rather than to the sufferings and pains which Fatima (sa) received at the hands of the caliphs.
@@osumanaaa9982 The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is part of me - what saddens her saddens me, and what pleases her pleases me.”Al-Sunan Al-Kubra, v. 7, p. 64, the chapter on what will transpire on the Day of Judgement; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, in the margins of Al-Musnad, v. 5, p. 96.
your argument is false
@@hman3966 You're making a claim without substantiating it. If you're gonna label the hadith as fabrication, you need to have at least proofs. If you're gonna only accept the narrations that suit you and reject those that refute you, then that's double standards. Also you seem to be using Ali's achievements as a proof for something, but let's not forget he's not the only one who has done things for the sake of Allah. Abu bakr faced the apostates and compiled the Quran, Umar conquered Jerusalem and Uthman standardized the Quran. We love Ali too, maybe in a more appropriate way than you guys do.
Then stop lying about them, because the one who is doing the killing of the sunnah are the shiite in Syria and Iraq, the shite live unharmed in Saudi Arabia where the wahabis you are claiming killed you reign.
Who stole Bagh e Fidaq ?
Who Attacked on Bibi Fatima's as Home ?
Who Burnt Door On Bibi Fatima saa?
Who teared Holy Prophet's Will presented by Bibi Fatima saa?
Who called Hazrat Ali as Bibi Fatima saa and Their Sons as liers?
Who Broke Bibi Fatima's saa fingers?
Who was responsible for Bibi Fatima saa and Hazrat Mohsin as Murders ?
try asking your forefathers if they also dont know try reading your own books still hard easy google it
All fabricated. Come on now
@@pioneer2321 seriously? Did you even read your history
@@ZainSha1 you clearly haven’t read the true history, because you love the made up fairytales. you love what you like to hear and hate the truth.
@@ZainSha1😂😂😂 .. Baghe fidaq stoled.. Ur Imam silent.... Wife killed... Ur imam silent.... Burn door on his wife.... Imam silent... Can't protect sunnah.... Imam silent... Can't protect caliphate... Imam silent.. Can't protect Quran... Imam silent.... Imam Ali daughter stolen by The Great Umar Ibn e khattab RA.... Ur imam silent. .... Why ur version of ali is soooo weak 💀
@@ZainSha1Umar Ibn e Khattab RA by farrrrrrrrrrrr much much much much better then ur version of ali
He never gave permission to lead the prayers , that's your false perspective .This Shamshi dude if he has the balls should debate a true Shia Islamic scholar .., but I think a true scholar would not waste time with a babbler seeking YT glory .
I thought that ONLY and ONLY the word of Allah, the Quran is 100% preserved with ZERO man add-ons. How could the hadit books or anything in this world be on its level. Sorry brothers and sisters but I find it very hard to say with absolute certainty that, this or that hadit book is 100% correct when I for sure know its only been protected by us humans. The Quran in my believe is the only 100% true word and unchanged message of god.
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا۟ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا۟ شِيَعًۭا لَّسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِى شَىْءٍ ۚ إِنَّمَآ أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُوا۟ يَفْعَلُونَ
@shamsi. Is your issue with the depiction or the content? You mentioned depiction is not allowed but not why? Depiction is only an issue of it done in an offensive way. As in I am not sure why people would find a voice with no face as offensive. The content however is someone another's opinion and depiction of historical events which should not be objected to but discussed. Also you mentioned Abu Bakr lead a prayer while the prophet saw was ill. This was not by virtue. 1) The prophet had in fact ordered Abu Bakr, Omar and the other companions to leave Medina and follow Usamas army while appointing Usama the leader of the army which they objected to because of his age and other reasons. Abu bakr and Omar did in fact not leave Medina as they were instructed by the prophet along with a group of others causing confusion and stayed until the prophets death. The prophet only ordered that Ali a.s stay their with him but they hung around till the prophet died. This is absolutely clear in hadith books even including ibn kam e il Jawziyah. 2) Many people lead prayers while the prophet was alive. Does that mean they are all successors?
3) There are many narrations that state that the prophet actually came and lead the prayer after Abu Bakr did the Takbir.
4) Even if he did lead a prayer, I can certainly tell you that the Prophet saw and Ali A.s were not their in the prayer he lead. For starters, no prophet prays behind a companion. Also the prophet did not say you are the successor of all the muslims because you lead a particular prayer. Although he did on the contrary place Usama as the leader of the Army in their presence whilst and also Appointed Ali at Qadeer in the presence.
any depiction of the prophet or Allah is not allowed in Islam and your opinions dont mean anything in these matter. you dont need to know why of everything just follow the deen.
@Proxy true. i read half of his comment thinking he was sunni.