I have been using the 239 for a number of years. Works great and accommodates quite decent size pieces of wood ( bigger than most other wood/ twigstoves) .This means there is no need to feed the fire every few minutes. So after cooking my meal, I throw some big chunks of wood in it and keep using it as my campfire . Very happy with the 239 on canoe trips. For backpacking, I have recently purchased the picogrill 85. It performs well and is indeed very light but still quite a bit bigger than the Firebox Nano which I also also have. I still like my Firebox stoves but I find myself using my Picogrill 85 or 239 most of the time.
I've been drooling over these two for a while now, and now it's time to buy but i can't decide which to get. I intend to go bicycle touring, maybe round the world even. I'm not a gram weenie, since a kg or two doesn't make that much of a difference on the bike, but there's also a size difference. If price were not the issue, which should one get for bicycle touring? hmmm
@@TheScatman89 both. Found a knockoff brand and imported from Amazon Japan. They had some kind of sale and shipping was cheaper if I bought both. Brand is Huanbush. (Though please support Picogrill if you aren’t from a less fortunate background like me) Love them both. The larger one is easier to work with, makes better fires because it has a lot more room inside, and airflow. The smaller one is super light and I bring it with me as a backup stove even if I don’t plan on cooking with fire. Easier to stand pots on top of it as well. I keep it in my pack along with a plastic flat folding plate and bowl, which serve as a cutting board too. It can also serve as a pot stand to use with diy alcohol stoves, which is what I do on backpacking trips. If you bring a small decent trowel for burying #2s you might not even need either. Dakota fire pit is fun to do, very efficient and stealthier. At the end you just bury your ashes. The hole can serve as a bathroom in the morning as well. I found the flat shape to not be as space saving as I thought originally. It’s nice to have a kit that nestles together like the trangia. If you already have a tall pot you might wanna get one of the toaks gasifiers. So in summary, if you’re cheap get a good trowel and a hangeable pot. Or a simple steel can that nestles with your pot. If you are UL oriented get the small one. If you might be cooking for more than one, and would prefer ease of use as a tradeoff for a couple grams, get the big one. 100g of difference just means you bring one less T-shirt with you. If you’re still considering pots, check out the Soto Titanium pots. Lightest out there. The 1100 and one of these flat stoves.
Nice bit of kit, thanks for the review Andy. Having just bought a hot tent and stove, this purchase will have to go on to the ‘back burner’ for now. 🤭👍🏻. Paul
good review. nice to see them compared side-by-side. TBH though i bought the 239 a few weeks ago and have no second thoughts about it: large enough for a good sized fire, tough enough to stack a pile of bricks on (literally!), and wonderfully lightweight. i totally understand that it's not some people's cup of tea but i got tired of lugging my 1kg firebox around and this ticked all the boxes so ... ca-ching! "buy once, cry once" eh? 👍 👍
Thank you for your reviews. This one and the comparaison of different wood stove make me decide to buy the 239. Most of the other stoves have a smaller surface and the equipment to heat the water is often less than 20 cm intended to heat the water for one or two people. As a family, it's interesting to directly heat 1.5 liters of water for tea and to make pasta in a 3 litres pot. The kettles, pots are often narrow: designed for narrow gas stoves. For this wide-hearth wood-burning stove, I think we should use wide pots and pans to go much faster and cook for many people. I see you are using a GSI 1l kettle on it. Which is the best for you to boil water on the 239 by optimizing the very large surface area.
I thought the price seemed very high until I went on ebay to cost up the stainless foil sheet to make one myself. Its about £30 for a 300x1000mm 0.3mm thick sheet. Once you account for the price of lazer cutting, or the cost of materials to acid etch it, plus the time to design it on CAD, it works out about the same to just buy one!
Looks like a cracking twig stove for bikecamping/hiking, but seems rather costly like you say for very thin gauge steel. Obviously paying a premium for it being lightweight.
Very cool. Contemplating one. Likely get one and the bush box or whatever it's called, would be cool in titanium I agree. I am a bit worried about it longevity thou... probably nothing to worry about as long as it's cared for.
Awesome review Andy on the stove I'll put it on my Christmas list or ask the Mrs, thanks Andy for a fantastic review video and info cheers Andy and keep those amazing reviews videos coming cheers 👍👌
Deciding on camp stoves gets more difficult 'by the minute.'🙄 It IS a matter of 'HORSES FOR COURSES.' I am drawn to your new, slightly larger model for its increased heating capacity and for its ability to support heavier cookware. On the other hand, a Bushbox or similar twig stove will support a small fry pan, tea kettle, and so on.
Andy they look awesome, do you think they would be ok to keep a fire going in like a little fire pit not a huge fire just a small fire ticking over. Also have you tried it with charcoal for a bbq, really impressed. Price could be a factor but as you say if your packing a lot of gear for a canoe trip that could be ideal.
Question: Can you also use this as a mini campfire for two hours or so? I guess the bushbox xl you can only burn for an hour? I can’t seem to find info on that. Thank you to anyone who knows!
I have it and used it in my last camping trip (3 weeks). The edges don’t feel sharp, however it is very thin so just use caution, I love mine which is the 85, used with Trangia you’d want to raise it up a bit for fuel efficiency.
This is another of those "this design is *so* simple and obvious now I've seen it. Why didn't I think of this?" :D I'd like to see a smaller version - maybe 6" x 8". How thick is the steel? 1/2 mm?
I wanna know too. Folded it makes 4mm so I'm guessing it's at max 1mm each. I've seen someone talk about wanting to make one custom and they mentioned trying to buy a 0.3mm sheet.
Lightweight and sturdy, but also costly, but if it's your only wee burner and you use it a lot then you could potentially get your moneys worth, wonder how long they would last, cheers.
Really good instructional video on the product - shame, like you say, it isn't in titanium! Thanks for putting the prices up - lots of youtubers never do that! The price compares pretty well with, say, a Honey Stove.
Unfortunately, the standard is also that we always have to pay at least 30 percent more for import material in Switzerland. So unfortunately we have to pass it on again at the end. I know what I'm talking about. But I hope you enjoy this great barbeque
@@lasercutagprazisionslaserc2033I have the small one and absolutely love it, when using a Trangia you have to McGiver it a little higher for proper burn but this can be done with extra rods, I save the cheap stakes that come with many tents (I never use them) and place them strategically to raise the Trangia. I have a trip coming up and I’ll see if I can McGiver it to work with a propane insert since I’m in California USA we have frequent fire bans, I’m pretty creative and I think I can work something out. Great piece of equipment, put a bushcraft little grill mesh on top for a steak or burger, I’ve done it too. The quality of every product I have from your country is just amazing.
I have been using the 239 for a number of years. Works great and accommodates quite decent size pieces of wood ( bigger than most other wood/ twigstoves) .This means there is no need to feed the fire every few minutes. So after cooking my meal, I throw some big chunks of wood in it and keep using it as my campfire . Very happy with the 239 on canoe trips. For backpacking, I have recently purchased the picogrill 85. It performs well and is indeed very light but still quite a bit bigger than the Firebox Nano which I also also have. I still like my Firebox stoves but I find myself using my Picogrill 85 or 239 most of the time.
I've been drooling over these two for a while now, and now it's time to buy but i can't decide which to get. I intend to go bicycle touring, maybe round the world even. I'm not a gram weenie, since a kg or two doesn't make that much of a difference on the bike, but there's also a size difference. If price were not the issue, which should one get for bicycle touring? hmmm
@@pedroclaro7822 which did you end up with? im a bikepacker too
@@TheScatman89 both.
Found a knockoff brand and imported from Amazon Japan. They had some kind of sale and shipping was cheaper if I bought both. Brand is Huanbush. (Though please support Picogrill if you aren’t from a less fortunate background like me)
Love them both.
The larger one is easier to work with, makes better fires because it has a lot more room inside, and airflow.
The smaller one is super light and I bring it with me as a backup stove even if I don’t plan on cooking with fire. Easier to stand pots on top of it as well. I keep it in my pack along with a plastic flat folding plate and bowl, which serve as a cutting board too. It can also serve as a pot stand to use with diy alcohol stoves, which is what I do on backpacking trips.
If you bring a small decent trowel for burying #2s you might not even need either. Dakota fire pit is fun to do, very efficient and stealthier. At the end you just bury your ashes. The hole can serve as a bathroom in the morning as well.
I found the flat shape to not be as space saving as I thought originally. It’s nice to have a kit that nestles together like the trangia. If you already have a tall pot you might wanna get one of the toaks gasifiers.
So in summary, if you’re cheap get a good trowel and a hangeable pot. Or a simple steel can that nestles with your pot.
If you are UL oriented get the small one.
If you might be cooking for more than one, and would prefer ease of use as a tradeoff for a couple grams, get the big one. 100g of difference just means you bring one less T-shirt with you.
If you’re still considering pots, check out the Soto Titanium pots. Lightest out there. The 1100 and one of these flat stoves.
@@pedroclaro7822 great info. thank you very much!
@ most welcome
Nice bit of kit, thanks for the review Andy. Having just bought a hot tent and stove, this purchase will have to go on to the ‘back burner’ for now. 🤭👍🏻.
Paul
I’ve had mine for a few months and took it on a 3 weeks camping trip. I love it, very efficient.
Thanks for sharing Andy , it is always nice to see new things* Such a clever design* As with all Swiss & Norwegian products , they are expensive.
Just ordered the 239 and the pot stand! Great review, thx!!
Really great piece of kit when all you need is a small fire!
They are excellent for ultralite hiking and as emergency stoves
i am sold on this, this is bloody amazing.
Looks a great item Andy. Now on my Christmas list. Thanks.
Another excellent piece of equipment. Also another great review.
That’s a neat stove. Spam and eggs is a classic. Been eating that breakfast since I was a kid
got mine, used it once so far... loving it.
good review. nice to see them compared side-by-side. TBH though i bought the 239 a few weeks ago and have no second thoughts about it: large enough for a good sized fire, tough enough to stack a pile of bricks on (literally!), and wonderfully lightweight. i totally understand that it's not some people's cup of tea but i got tired of lugging my 1kg firebox around and this ticked all the boxes so ... ca-ching! "buy once, cry once" eh? 👍 👍
Thank you for your reviews. This one and the comparaison of different wood stove make me decide to buy the 239. Most of the other stoves have a smaller surface and the equipment to heat the water is often less than 20 cm intended to heat the water for one or two people. As a family, it's interesting to directly heat 1.5 liters of water for tea and to make pasta in a 3 litres pot. The kettles, pots are often narrow: designed for narrow gas stoves. For this wide-hearth wood-burning stove, I think we should use wide pots and pans to go much faster and cook for many people.
I see you are using a GSI 1l kettle on it. Which is the best for you to boil water on the 239 by optimizing the very large surface area.
I love these!
I will be purchasing the bigger one!
Hi Andy, thanks for the great video as always. Be well.
I thought the price seemed very high until I went on ebay to cost up the stainless foil sheet to make one myself. Its about £30 for a 300x1000mm 0.3mm thick sheet. Once you account for the price of lazer cutting, or the cost of materials to acid etch it, plus the time to design it on CAD, it works out about the same to just buy one!
Well it would be if you bough a tiny sheet from eBay.
But if you went to a machine shop or decent engineering company you’d bang these out for pence.
What a great bit of kit, great review. I have a Bushbox Pocket which is great to use as well.
Great review. They look amazing. A bit pricey for me at the moment but who knows what the future holds. Thank you. Keep them coming. 👍
Their website also has a thin metal tray that can go underneath to catch stray embers. Could also be used as a mini chopping board I guess. Smart kit.
Genius little things! Thanks Andy 😁
Great video Andy very informative keep up the good work. X
Another great video Andy.
Looks like a cracking twig stove for bikecamping/hiking, but seems rather costly like you say for very thin gauge steel. Obviously paying a premium for it being lightweight.
Great review Andy. Looks like a good piece of kit
Thats incredibly thin and light weight Andy, being stainless it should last too. I like the idea
Sandy
Pricey but looks like a neat little stove
Greetings from a Belgian bushcrafter
Little worried about cutting my hand on those things
Very cool. Contemplating one. Likely get one and the bush box or whatever it's called, would be cool in titanium I agree. I am a bit worried about it longevity thou... probably nothing to worry about as long as it's cared for.
Just when I thought I didn't need another stove... 🤣 Cheers mate!
Fogão muito bom Parabéns 👍
Two videos in a week! Hooray!
Looks a really nice piece of kit Andy but it is rather expensive!!
Very cool ! Lookin into them.
Awesome review Andy on the stove I'll put it on my Christmas list or ask the Mrs, thanks Andy for a fantastic review video and info cheers Andy and keep those amazing reviews videos coming cheers 👍👌
As you Brits say, 'Crackin' vid!'
😉 good lad lol
I'd like to see a titanium one too! I'm not sure if it'd warp after too long though. £60! They need a UK manufacturer/supplier please!
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Ótimo vídeo Parabéns muito bom isso 👍
Very nice, Andy. 🙂👍
Great video, great stoves
What a great little stove 👍
Hey Andy, try making a loco moco one day for breakfast. Hawaii's finest gift to world cuisine!
it looks nice.. unusaly for breakfast but im up for it :)
Pretty slick!
Deciding on camp stoves gets more difficult 'by the minute.'🙄 It IS a matter of 'HORSES FOR COURSES.' I am drawn to your new, slightly larger model for its increased heating capacity and for its ability to support heavier cookware. On the other hand, a Bushbox or similar twig stove will support a small fry pan, tea kettle, and so on.
wonder if there's a ti version of the same stove outthere somewhere...
Good stuff
Andy they look awesome, do you think they would be ok to keep a fire going in like a little fire pit not a huge fire just a small fire ticking over. Also have you tried it with charcoal for a bbq, really impressed. Price could be a factor but as you say if your packing a lot of gear for a canoe trip that could be ideal.
Question: Can you also use this as a mini campfire for two hours or so? I guess the bushbox xl you can only burn for an hour? I can’t seem to find info on that. Thank you to anyone who knows!
I like the smaller one, what's the edges like? A cut finger waiting to happen or is it pretty good? 85g is nothing 👍
I have it and used it in my last camping trip (3 weeks). The edges don’t feel sharp, however it is very thin so just use caution, I love mine which is the 85, used with Trangia you’d want to raise it up a bit for fuel efficiency.
@@carmenmartinez2882 thanks 👍
Would both with stand charoal bricks for long stand heat Andy?
This is another of those "this design is *so* simple and obvious now I've seen it. Why didn't I think of this?" :D
I'd like to see a smaller version - maybe 6" x 8".
How thick is the steel? 1/2 mm?
I wanna know too. Folded it makes 4mm so I'm guessing it's at max 1mm each. I've seen someone talk about wanting to make one custom and they mentioned trying to buy a 0.3mm sheet.
Like those tiny condiment containers, what's their source?
Does anyone have a link where one of these can be bought in the UK?
Long shot but where can you buy them from?
Lightweight and sturdy, but also costly, but if it's your only wee burner and you use it a lot then you could potentially get your moneys worth, wonder how long they would last, cheers.
Unbelievably simple.
I’d really love to watch him cook eggs 🍳 🥚 on a Grill and not in a Frypan 😂
When you say free are you meaning three?
Are the edges sharp?
Really good instructional video on the product - shame, like you say, it isn't in titanium! Thanks for putting the prices up - lots of youtubers never do that! The price compares pretty well with, say, a Honey Stove.
👍👍👍
Piss take price point, 💯🤔
Just a tad!
Fr lol
Super design, went to buy but it's waaaaaaaaaaay overpriced.
Really like it but the cost is just a bit too much for me, brilliant idea though.
I love spam but cannot think why it is so expensive
They are swiss made, no need to say they are expensive, that's a default
Unfortunately, the standard is also that we always have to pay at least 30 percent more for import material in Switzerland. So unfortunately we have to pass it on again at the end. I know what I'm talking about. But I hope you enjoy this great barbeque
@@lasercutagprazisionslaserc2033I have the small one and absolutely love it, when using a Trangia you have to McGiver it a little higher for proper burn but this can be done with extra rods, I save the cheap stakes that come with many tents (I never use them) and place them strategically to raise the Trangia. I have a trip coming up and I’ll see if I can McGiver it to work with a propane insert since I’m in California USA we have frequent fire bans, I’m pretty creative and I think I can work something out. Great piece of equipment, put a bushcraft little grill mesh on top for a steak or burger, I’ve done it too. The quality of every product I have from your country is just amazing.
Batteries are not included 🤣 hahaha 😉
This thing costs almost 70 dollars in amazon...
$25.99 on Amazon.
Was it Spam or Bacon Grill , if Spam try the Bacon Grill its way much better
Sorry had spam recently is awful stuff bacons better and I'm not that picky with what I eat
🎶SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!
Extortionate .way over priced