I've owned all 3 models BTW. Tried to carry and use all 3. When the model A came out, it was my auto knife dream come true. Tried to use it, blade wouldn't maintain lock up.... despite a few trips back to Gavin. I feel the model A was basically the ' proof of concept and recover $$" model. I know some will see that as harsh, but my experiences say so. It looked good and locked open solid.... but it was just a for show knife. The model B basically fixed the lock design flaw. The model C further cleaned up the knife, made it more carry friendly and what I call an actual user auto. I have cut many heavy duty, triple wall cardboard boxes down with mine and can testify that the lockup stays solid, whereas you could literally spin tap on your palm the model A out of lockup. Love my model C and Gavin and crew have been amazing through my journey through the models.
Model b vs model c . I love the look of the b , the quality metal look . Better colours looks more premium . But the only drawback is the blade to handle ratio . If you could tell me which one to pick if price isn’t an issue that would really help
@@anonymousbrowsing2909 Nothing personal, but people complaining about "blade to handle ratio" haven't seen inside these knives. There's basically zero wasted space or way to balance it out more than it already is.
I owned 2 Deadlocks......One was titanium the other carbon fiber....I carried the carbon fiber a few times because it was lighter.....While I purchased both at pre-built prices I came to the conclusion these are way too expensive to carry.....I have a few Microtechs...Scarab, a few troodon models and various others.....The Microtech I carried mostly because they were all $500 and under.....When I had the opportunity to sell and almost double my loot the deal was made so fast It felt like the NY Stock Exchange.....These are awesome design.....They're is absolutely no reason to not build an affordable $500-$600 model or less in my opinion.....The only Hawk I own and carry is the M.U.D.D...it was $400 and it's in the sweet spot of quality priced knives.....Come on Gavin....You've made enough money......Make a model that people will actually carry in the world of concealed today please......
I really wish they made a production model of the deadlock. The esthetic and style is exactly what I want in an OTF but there’s no way I’d ever spend as much as they’re asking for an OTF.
I love my Deadlock except for one main complaint. I absolutely hate the pocket clip. I’d love to see a deep set clip, where the majority, if not all of the knife is hidden in my pocket. To me, the Heretic Colossus pocket clip is best in that regard, so I’d love to see a deep carry option. Beyond that, just to be the first full lockup otf was such a needed innovation in the knife world. Can’t help but say thanks Gavin and Grant!
late to the party here, but I bought a deadlock last month. I had it for less than week before I sold it. Here’s my 5 reasons: 1. It had a rattle. If I shook it back and forth I could hear something inside clinking. Don’t know why but that really bothered me. 2. I am not a “tactical” guy and felt kind of ridiculous with a giant double edge dagger in my pocket. 3. I had the titanium / cf variant and didn’t really love the aesthetic of the inlay. I would prefer full ti or fat carbon. 4. m390 is a mid steel for a 2.2k table price knife imo, it shouldn’t matter really since hardly anyone is going to use this thing but the magnacut versions sell for closer to 3k. They should all be magnacut at that price. 5. The price, pretty self explanatory. The aluminum versions at the 1.1k table price are the only ones I’d consider relatively “worth it” , it’s a fidget knife / self defense tool, so I’d rather have the cheaper & lighter knife in aluminum. I would love to see them make a smaller single edge otf either in aluminum or some weight relieved titanium.
Table top price is a pipe dream now, I picked up this exact model for 1760 with shipping and tax a while back I could sell it for 2500 easy now. I like the C model because they have made improvements to the internals and the magnacut steel blades. These are more like a piece of jewelry / art rather than a utility knife I don’t think the internals would hold up to a lot of abuse. if you want a good OTF to beat on get a Livewire
ALL HIS POINTS EXCEPT ONE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL KNIFE: 1. Lack of aesthetic options 2. High price 3. Hard to get 4. Blade to handle ratio 5. Only one blade option HE STILL LOVES THE KNIFE
A question. Today we have flipper’s that can be opened lightning fast. Heck even a Spyderco Para 2 fires lightning fast with the right flick. Flipper’s and Spyderco like knife’s are more reliable than any Auto ever could be. What exactly are Auto knives for? What advantage to they bring?
Granted, you can open a flipper pretty fast, especially ones with buttons to flip it out(sorry, I can't think of the correct terminology for them, lol) The issue isn't getting the blade out, but getting it back in. All the flippers have some sort of locking mechanism that you need to manipulate to unlock the blade and fold it back in. That's where these otf autos come in. If I need to use my blade quickly and put it away quickly or only have one hand to operate, then these will beat flippers any day of the week. Also, they just look cool lol.
All OTF have a less than desirable blade to handle ratio. I’ve got the Ti model and it’s great…. But I’m having to send it in. The chassis top plate seems warped.
Haven’t even watched the video yet but I love the title . these deadlocks are overpriced and overhyped . So many otfs on the market the deadlock k doesn’t even make it on my list , ugly af , horrible aesthetics , weak action , ugly blade .
Sweet fucking knife. I have the model C with DLC blade/accents and tumbled Ti inlays. Going forward they will be doing all Ti model Cs. I am all over that.
@@Adamas11 If the blade was a little longer and wider I might go for it. But the blade is literally the aize of an ultratech. I need something more impressive for that kind of cash lol
???? For the full Ti version right? The Aluminum one go around 1k on seconday. I think John Wick 4 bumped thatbup temporarily but they will go back down
I can't comment on people's likes or tastes, however, I'm not seeing the real value in this knife besides a status symbol and for some protective purposes. At this price point, like you mentioned, I'd expect to get a custom ask on what I want period. Make it happen by any means. And yes for this price you could have 5 different otfs that do anything and everything you need and at least look better with the same quality of materials as well as maintenance options from the company. Maybe there upper options as you mentioned are enough to satisfy that but again at that price point it's a piece of jewelry. 😅 Edit: This is coming from someone who sees knives almost purely for practical purposes I do have my niche buys in my collection.
The white lettering billboarding on the side of the knife, is hideous looking. There is nothing about the Hawk OTF's that make them worth their table price.
I've owned all 3 models BTW. Tried to carry and use all 3. When the model A came out, it was my auto knife dream come true. Tried to use it, blade wouldn't maintain lock up.... despite a few trips back to Gavin. I feel the model A was basically the ' proof of concept and recover $$" model. I know some will see that as harsh, but my experiences say so. It looked good and locked open solid.... but it was just a for show knife. The model B basically fixed the lock design flaw. The model C further cleaned up the knife, made it more carry friendly and what I call an actual user auto. I have cut many heavy duty, triple wall cardboard boxes down with mine and can testify that the lockup stays solid, whereas you could literally spin tap on your palm the model A out of lockup. Love my model C and Gavin and crew have been amazing through my journey through the models.
Model b vs model c . I love the look of the b , the quality metal look . Better colours looks more premium . But the only drawback is the blade to handle ratio . If you could tell me which one to pick if price isn’t an issue that would really help
@@anonymousbrowsing2909 Nothing personal, but people complaining about "blade to handle ratio" haven't seen inside these knives. There's basically zero wasted space or way to balance it out more than it already is.
I owned 2 Deadlocks......One was titanium the other carbon fiber....I carried the carbon fiber a few times because it was lighter.....While I purchased both at pre-built prices I came to the conclusion these are way too expensive to carry.....I have a few Microtechs...Scarab, a few troodon models and various others.....The Microtech I carried mostly because they were all $500 and under.....When I had the opportunity to sell and almost double my loot the deal was made so fast It felt like the NY Stock Exchange.....These are awesome design.....They're is absolutely no reason to not build an affordable $500-$600 model or less in my opinion.....The only Hawk I own and carry is the M.U.D.D...it was $400 and it's in the sweet spot of quality priced knives.....Come on Gavin....You've made enough money......Make a model that people will actually carry in the world of concealed today please......
I really wish they made a production model of the deadlock. The esthetic and style is exactly what I want in an OTF but there’s no way I’d ever spend as much as they’re asking for an OTF.
I love my Deadlock except for one main complaint. I absolutely hate the pocket clip. I’d love to see a deep set clip, where the majority, if not all of the knife is hidden in my pocket. To me, the Heretic Colossus pocket clip is best in that regard, so I’d love to see a deep carry option. Beyond that, just to be the first full lockup otf was such a needed innovation in the knife world. Can’t help but say thanks Gavin and Grant!
late to the party here, but I bought a deadlock last month. I had it for less than week before I sold it. Here’s my 5 reasons:
1. It had a rattle. If I shook it back and forth I could hear something inside clinking. Don’t know why but that really bothered me.
2. I am not a “tactical” guy and felt kind of ridiculous with a giant double edge dagger in my pocket.
3. I had the titanium / cf variant and didn’t really love the aesthetic of the inlay. I would prefer full ti or fat carbon.
4. m390 is a mid steel for a 2.2k table price knife imo, it shouldn’t matter really since hardly anyone is going to use this thing but the magnacut versions sell for closer to 3k. They should all be magnacut at that price.
5. The price, pretty self explanatory. The aluminum versions at the 1.1k table price are the only ones I’d consider relatively “worth it” , it’s a fidget knife / self defense tool, so I’d rather have the cheaper & lighter knife in aluminum.
I would love to see them make a smaller single edge otf either in aluminum or some weight relieved titanium.
Table top price is a pipe dream now, I picked up this exact model for 1760 with shipping and tax a while back I could sell it for 2500 easy now. I like the C model because they have made improvements to the internals and the magnacut steel blades. These are more like a piece of jewelry / art rather than a utility knife I don’t think the internals would hold up to a lot of abuse. if you want a good OTF to beat on get a Livewire
They just did a pre-order of the full ti for table. I.didnt get in on it though
I see these Hawk vids talking about absolutely zero blade play but nobody ever shows that on a video.
That's kinda funny
ALL HIS POINTS EXCEPT ONE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL KNIFE: 1. Lack of aesthetic options 2. High price 3. Hard to get 4. Blade to handle ratio 5. Only one blade option
HE STILL LOVES THE KNIFE
The only thing it has going for it is no blade play
A question. Today we have flipper’s that can be opened lightning fast. Heck even a Spyderco Para 2 fires lightning fast with the right flick. Flipper’s and Spyderco like knife’s are more reliable than any Auto ever could be. What exactly are Auto knives for? What advantage to they bring?
They make you feel cool 😎
Fun and uniqueness over the flippers. So booooring.
Granted, you can open a flipper pretty fast, especially ones with buttons to flip it out(sorry, I can't think of the correct terminology for them, lol)
The issue isn't getting the blade out, but getting it back in. All the flippers have some sort of locking mechanism that you need to manipulate to unlock the blade and fold it back in. That's where these otf autos come in. If I need to use my blade quickly and put it away quickly or only have one hand to operate, then these will beat flippers any day of the week. Also, they just look cool lol.
If you shake the knife is there blade movement before it’s deployed? Is there play when it’s still in the handle?
nope. none
$300 less than table? Never heard that expression. Where have I been?
Lol. table as in the table price at shows as that's where these are available
Owned one. I was very excited to have the knife. Nothing against the knife….. I sold it. It is not a good hard use knife.
Hard use tasks like breaking down boxes😂😂😂lol
Sometimes that cardboard be thick
All OTF have a less than desirable blade to handle ratio. I’ve got the Ti model and it’s great…. But I’m having to send it in. The chassis top plate seems warped.
Without a doubt the biggest con is you can't just buy the fucking thing! 😛
Love mine. It's also a unicorn... single edge blade.
I HATE ALL DAGGER BLADES. SO USELESS, ESPECIALLY IN A $1500 OTF!
me too , illegal also , most places
The only thing stopping me from buying this knife is that it looks like something you’d buy at 7/11 gas station.
😂
Which 7/11 do you go to?
@@LoganLawrenceThis 💯 😝
Haven’t even watched the video yet but I love the title . these deadlocks are overpriced and overhyped . So many otfs on the market the deadlock k doesn’t even make it on my list , ugly af , horrible aesthetics , weak action , ugly blade .
Sweet fucking knife. I have the model C with DLC blade/accents and tumbled Ti inlays. Going forward they will be doing all Ti model Cs. I am all over that.
Same. I don't know if I'm all over that price tag though
Facts! The all Ti base model C with standard carbon fiber inlays is supposed to be around $1,800. Yikes!
@@Adamas11 If the blade was a little longer and wider I might go for it. But the blade is literally the aize of an ultratech. I need something more impressive for that kind of cash lol
People climb all over themselves to pay $2500 Table price at shows , and gladly pay $4000-$8000 for customs
Im sure you really hate that knife you spent like $1200 on
I can get one now but man $2300 before shipping man. That’s an ounce of gold.
???? For the full Ti version right? The Aluminum one go around 1k on seconday. I think John Wick 4 bumped thatbup temporarily but they will go back down
@@edged_mindset so tempted but with all economic issues I will hold off
@@leewang6686 makes sense. I should be doing the same
@@edged_mindset what site did you see this for 1k? Even straight from hawk knife designs its 1800
@@Ryley280 table is 1100 for aluminum and 1800 for the full ti. I got mine for 900 pre-owned on BF
I can't comment on people's likes or tastes, however, I'm not seeing the real value in this knife besides a status symbol and for some protective purposes. At this price point, like you mentioned, I'd expect to get a custom ask on what I want period. Make it happen by any means. And yes for this price you could have 5 different otfs that do anything and everything you need and at least look better with the same quality of materials as well as maintenance options from the company. Maybe there upper options as you mentioned are enough to satisfy that but again at that price point it's a piece of jewelry. 😅
Edit: This is coming from someone who sees knives almost purely for practical purposes I do have my niche buys in my collection.
I can totally see your prospective thanks for the comment
VALIDATED…!
microtechs look way cleaner and more gentleman like than this production model. carbon fiber is not gentleman like lol, looks cheap.
You think carbon fiber looks cheap?!
I still think it’s cool
The white lettering billboarding on the side of the knife, is hideous looking. There is nothing about the Hawk OTF's that make them worth their table price.
For real. They look like a gas station special.
You can pay $300 or so for a Benchmade Infidel, which is just as good. This knife is way overpriced.
You are 100% delusional if you think this knife looks gentlemanly and NOT tactical 😂😂 enjoy being single forever my guy
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#1 reason: It's just so ugly
hahahah
Knife for gay vampire who hangs out at gas station.
@@litsci4690 🤣🤣🤣🤣