Prophet X Review (Why it's replaced my workstations) by Everett Dudgeon
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Here we go guys. My first video review. Please provide any feedback you can in terms of bettering the image or sound quality of these things. I hope you guys enjoy this and hope this video shines some light on why the Prophet X has replaced the Korg Kronos, Kurzweil, Roland FA-08 and others. Call me crazy...most people do.
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For more a more in depth look at the PX check out Nick Batt's review at Sonic State. I think them and Automatic Gainsay are tied in giving the best online synth reviews/demos.
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This is actually a really good video. I was hesitating between the x over the quantum.... but I am tired of diving into too much synthesis while composing should be the main focus, thanks a lot for this review EverettDudgeon 138
You are very welcome. Thank you for the kind words.
Everett, one of the best Prophet X videos I’ve seen! Excellent job! Your video was the catalyst for my ordering an XL - should arrive in a week or so and I can’t sleep! I went a little crazy and am also on the backorder list for the Novation Summit keyboard version and these will be the only two synths I will have.
Thanks again! If you were located any closer to me I’d buy you a couple of beers! So here’s a cyber beer on me 🍺!
Thank you so much for the kind words and Cyber Beer. It really means a lot. The Novation Summit and Prophet XL are going to be one of the best synth combos you can get. I can't wait to hear/see some videos from you to hear them both sing together.
That’s great to hear about the winning combo; that was my thought too. And if I do post a video of making them sing, I will refrain from singing myself so that no listener’s eardrums will be damaged beyond repair 😁
Finally a video of someone using this creatively as a synthesizer instead of a ROMpler
Dave Smith should have comped you that synth! (Come on Dave.....) Your suggestion was spot on. You gave me a different perspective on the use of this beauty. I can see how the PX lends itself to devoting more time to composing music than programming. The "X" just moved up a notch on my wish list. Love the review ;)
James Hall thanks so much! I can’t wait to see what Sequential come out with next.
I was really into sound design, you know looking for that perfect sound to compliment the new song you're writing? But i wasn't finding ANYTHING that I truly loved. So after a couple of sequencers, korg kronos keyboards, roland systems and even arturia matrix brute I would expensively find out that they all had there place but would never fit in. So I was afraid to buy anything else, really costly mistakes! After researching info I ran into this by accident and decided to take a chance. It really looked cheap at first and not enough knobs and dials I thought. But when I turned it on the first time I was in tears. When I heard the sounds coming from this synth I lost it. My wife couldnt find me because I had been in the studio for days/nights and never came out. This is 100% professional prime rib. It'll never get old and now my other boards are collecting dust like you said. lol. Thanks for the video, it was nice to hear someone like me feel the same way.
You are absolutely welcome! Thank you so much for the kind words. Would love to hear what creations you come up with using this machine.
@@EverettDudgeon138 I'll put something together and send it your way.
Hi, ant new houghts or conclusions?
About PX ?
Damn you!! I really didn't want to spend any more money on a synth, but you have changed my mind! Now I just need to sell something...
Techno Dad Dave Smith’s gear is addictive indeed.
EverettDudgeon138 yes sir!!! I've always wanted one, either Prophet 6, 8 Rev2, or even 12...now X!! I just bought the Moog Grandmother and that thing has a totally different sound than my Model-D Re-issue. Still want that DSI sound though!
Techno Dad Yeah that Model D sounded fantastic. Lots of great analog gear has come out recently. I hope to see Arturia finally do a poly synth next year. What’s fantastic about DSI though is that none of their synths sound or function exactly the same. Each has their own place and function so it makes it hard to buy just one. At this point it’s exciting to see what they’ll come up with next.
Dude, these patches sound great! Do you sell these? If not, I think you should look into that. I was looking at the Prophet X as a centerpeice to a live looping rig. I produce house music and I am looking for a great piano sound, and also something that I can split and play along with the other Analog synths I have to take care of all the layers in each track. I really feel the PX is the synth/keyboard I've been looking for as it has a great sounding piano, and I can combine samples with the synth engine. I loved what you did at 6:35!! Too bad I just dropped a LOT of cash on a new 4K editing setup for my RUclips videos. Oh well...Maybe in January...
Thanks so much. I was looking into selling some patches for my P6 a while back but since my job loss everything kind of got put on hold. I can't really officially sell them as I would likely have to declare that as income which may interfere with my E.I. process. So once I find something stable I'll likely get into selling patches.
Compelling review, best sounding video of this synth.
Would love to hear some pieces that you have created on the Prophet X! Can you do a guide on additional sample/ patch packages? Thanks for your help!
This reminds me of if NI Komplete was stand alone without a computer hooked up. Very sweet!
Thanks!
Important information here ! Thanks! 👽
Thank you!
Thanks, really useful video.
Hi! Very helpful post! Thx! I own a Prophet X since a week now and it fits so well into my other setting (CP70/Nordstage/OB6/Wavestate/JD900)! It is one of a kind, just a great creative tool to trigger and test ideas and soundscapes!
Superb!
Best review and logical presentation of this beast 🌞👍🏿
Brian Nice Thanks so much!
great video! hope to see you post more of the Prophet X
Thanks! I will for sure. Going to be doing some patch creation from scratch and demoing some more personal patches.
Thanks Everett, really nice and honest review from a very personal perspective. As I said before , saving my money now ...... ;-). One question: I thought I heard you say that the (poly-)sequencer does sent MIDI notes out to your DAW?
Gerard Havinga I believe with the newest firmware for the REV2 the sequencer and arpeggiator both send midi out now, I think it might also be for the X with the newest firmware. I usually just sync it to the DAW for master clock when doing a more classical oriented piece or sync it to the Tempest.
I'm looking to completely dump all DAW and libraries. Too much of a pain in the ass to program, endless hours sifting through sounds, clicking mouses, etc. And I do know how to program a sytth, and have for many years. I'm not looking to create the sound of a full blown arrangement, but am hoping I can replace my workstations with it for the most part. As soon as I can come up with the cash...
I really want to like this synth. In years we’ll see it back on Alamos RUclips channel as the Synth Time Forgot.
Oh yeah! You the man big dog!! Congrats and I’m looking forward to more videos!!!
Digital Diezel Thanks so much!
We're probably about the same age... I hope my son will take to my synth collection and play with them when he is older, he is only 18 months old and has his own little keyboard already. That will be cool to have and enjoy with him. He can't get a hold and bang on my Prophet 6... yet. He does play with my Kronos.
TheCbone1979 No better bond than music. :)
Great review Everett thanks! Really cool. You are so right, it IS a synth.
Scott Barnett Thanks Scott!
Thanks for this, hopefully it will be the first of many :-)
666JGNotts Thanks so much! I got a bunch of topics planned on here so stay tuned! :)
I wonder if I can justify buying this as I already have the Rev2 and Pro2 (and 3 other synths). The more I hear though, the more it is begging me to buy it ;-)
It's completely different in terms of it's sound but incredibly similar in terms of it's interaction to a lot of analog gear. A bit reason I was put off by a lot of my workstations was the amount of menu diving. This really allows you to sculpt your sound in a hands-on fashion. What I hope is that the PX sets off a new trend of knob per function interface samplers. The last one we had was the Nord Wave but Nord has no interests in synths anymore it seems and Kurzweil is focusing more on stage pianos rather than synths so maybe the PX might open the flood gates and we can get Hi end and even Low end sampling synths.
Great heartfelt review. Thanks
Thanks for the kind words!
Your right.... Such a new synth.... Have not heard anything since ASR10...... WOW
Perfect for making game soundtracks!
martin vegas Absolutely!
Everett i was wondering if you can do a follow up video on the prophet x. It’s been years. I since have a prophet xl now. I love it. One of my questions for you is regarding samples. It seems easy for you as I’ve watched your videos but others complain that it’s a mess. Everyone seems to trash the X as a bad sampler due to Tim shoebridges review and just in general. But it seems simple for you. I’d love to see an update from
You as it’s now 2022. I will you my prophet in conjunction with either a mpc or boss rc (repeater) controller
Looks like a beast! Nice job!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice Review!
shookmusic Thank you!
Loved the video did not even know about the play along feature
Thanks so much! It's really a handy Sequencer to have. Get song ideas out so fast.
@@EverettDudgeon138 got Tempest too also a bit of an instrument "people do not know what to make from it" while I think it is a Reeeally great device.
laxiton Oh Yeah I love the Tempest. It’s going to stay in my setup forever and even if Roger eventually gets the Linn Drum 2 going, I’ll simply have both.
I like your Redrum patch! Good job on the video too!
Thanks so much! Yeah the Redrum patch actually got me two gigs for soundtrack work recently so it's my kind of "Go To" for uneasy/tense scenes lol. I love your use of the Buchla btw! Those seem to be really overlooked synths.
I’m pretty much ready to pull the trigger on a DSI Rev2....... Understanding that the Prophet X does a LOT more...... what would I be giving up sound wise if I went with the X over the Rev2 on the analog synth sounds? The Prophet X looks and sounds REALLY good! Great demo and explanations! 🤠
Honestly I had my eye on the REV2 as well but after playing it a bit I didn’t like the Curtis filter that much and the DCOs sound a bit sterile...although you can program them to drift a bit. As far as what you would be giving up...analog oscillators...that’s really all I can think of. Prophet X has two effects per layer, REV2 has 1, Prophet X has touch sliders, REV2 does not, Prophet X also has stereo outputs for each channel and I don’t believe the REV2 does ( I could be wrong though) and personally I think the SSM filter sounds miles better than the Curtis but that’s a matter of taste.
EverettDudgeon138 I really appreciate the response. That’s exactly what I wanted to know. 🤠 I love the sound of both, just have to think now if I want one or the other, or both? Lol Seems like the Prophet X could replace a few things I have now as well as a few I intended to get at some point down the road. Just have to consider 2x the cost as well. Thanks again!
@@ezm69 You could always sell the things it could replace in order to finance the PX. :)
Damn, now I wish I knew how to play the keyboard/piano . Can't be much different than a guitar right ? Hahah. Awesome video ! Keep it up, I feel like I could be a salesman from all the good information you gave!
Thanks so much Roy. My parents said you stopped by for a visit. Shame I missed you. I hope all is well and hope we can get together again soon one of these days. Love you cuz!
This is very much in line with what I am hoping to get from the PX.
Do you use discord by any chance? I'm always down to share patch ideas and tips. (Plus I have a fair amount of questions still before I get the PX, HA)
i enjoy numbers and programming tempted to get a patch bay diy synth though.
Cool.
Its a beautiful instrument with some beautiful sounds Everett. Great video and I love some of the examples you used, especially Mainetti's Zombie 3. Look forward to seeing more videos from you.
Neil j Voice Yeah that one is one of my favourites for sure. Thanks so much for the kind words Neil!
Thanks! Great video! Yes, I agree, it is super! And I love the way you made your own vintage settings! Are they for sale!
Thanks! No the patches aren't for sale as of yet.
How do you manage the lack of polyphony for pianos Everett. I'm planning on getting a Prophet Xl on October 26th, my birthday. However, I noticed that you mentioned the workstation (Kronos)... Though I'm partial to the Yamaha Montage or Modx over the Kronos, they all have at least 128 voice polyphony whereas the Prophet x has 16 voice polypohny... How do you work thru that for a piano composition Everett?
32 voice mode works perfectly for me as the voice stealing is implemented quite intelligently and adding a good reverb helps as well. I prefer the Room Reverb or Hall Reverb to give it a miced up piano sound and ambience.
I also use this mode for organs as well.
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Wow I forgot you could.get 32 on the PX. Does that mean that the prophet XL can get 64? 🤔
@@briannicepianoworship8944 No. The XL is the same engine as the PX. The only difference is the key action.
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Hey Everett, officially gonna be a fellow PX Family owner today man. Got a Prophet XL coming in today. Only thing is right when I ordered it, the TaKe 5 came out lol. Take 5 sounded a little bit more analog off of the first presets alone because I think that’s what it’s met for…… I’m banking on the ability of the PXL to sound just as a along and deep and warm if not more. What’s your take on the two Everett, which sounds better to your ears 🤔?
My Prophet XL should arrive in about a week............ Thanks for the video
You are more than welcome. Enjoy your amazing instrument. Can’t wait to hear what you will create with it.
@@EverettDudgeon138 thanks! I followed you. I'm not much on RUclips, and actually in the middle of restarting that. I'm very active on Instagram though @mano1music - I plan to do a ton of content centered around Prophet XL (albeit focused on music more than the gear itself) 👋
I would really love to hear what Claudio Simonetti could do with one of these.
In some of my other Prophet X videos, specifically Vol 2 I talk about doing Simonetti beats on this thing. It's wild.
Oh man you have a nice set up, congrats again, what a wonderful life it is lol
Thanks so much!
Man I feel your pain, I lost my gear job and am out on disability with my main job. My main audio interface just blew and the P10 was just announced. Hopefully it will be in production for a long while because it's going to take a long time to save up for it.
Dave said that the P5 and P10 aren't limited editions. The only thing hold me back from the P10....is it's just more voices....if it was bi timbral or even if it was the double keyboard version I'd not only buy that, I'd buy the P5 with it.
@@EverettDudgeon138 you can also do that weird trick where you send midi out and back in effectively creating 4 to 15ms of a a double tracking effect. I do think it's beneficial to have more than 5 voices, I wouldn't personally need more than 8 but I'll take the extra 2.
@@Iofflight78 I think once you get past a certain voice count, it's stupid to not have bi timbrality.
Great review!
Thanks so much!
Yo everett ! were the sample used in your personal patche are the factory samples ? thanks .. and how hard is it to incorporate your own samples ?.. thanks
The sample prophet
Great job great review to the point without all the bullshit
Thank you!
If compare to Nord Wave 2?
Completely different. Nord Wave 2 has four engines for 4 different types of synthesis (sample, virtual analog, wavetable and FM) but it's modulation capabilities are limited and it also has no sequencer
EverettDudgeon138 thank you for quick reply! I’m glad I’ve found your channel! You mean sequencer like arpeggiator, or like... recording sequencer? I’m thinking what to choose...
@@roman13rooms Sequencer as in polyphonic sequencer. I speak about it at 6:08
EverettDudgeon138 yes yes, so it works like recorder, as I understand... cause Wave 2 has a polyphonic arpeggiator, but it’s not a sequencer...
what's the chance(if any) of Sequential making a desktop version of the Prophet X, or do you think they would've done it by now? btw, are you looking forward to the Waldorf Iridium?
I think Sequential might be done in terms of the PX. I highly doubt we'll see a rack/desktop version which is sad but I am actually interested in getting a PXL to accompany my PX so I'm not too worried. We MIGHT see this type of technology in a drum machine but I doubt it. Plus Roger Linn is working on a new drum machine anyway based around MPE so Dave and company might not even bother with trying to do Tempest 2. I think Sequential's next synth is actually going to be a lower tiered 4 voice DCO based poly synth (like half of a REV2) and then next year we might see a the Pro 3 technology of VCOs and Wavetables inside a full Polysynth.
As far as the Iridium it sounds great. I wasn't a fan of the Quantum but the Iridium has a good form factor. Personally I think I'd use it more as a vocal/guitar processor with it's granular and particle type aspects.
Personally I really wish Kurzweil or Nord would do a desktop module with their sounds inside it more than anything.
Sorry for the job loss I know how that feels..as a side note Dave Smith should give you a free Prophet XL for that suggestion on the forum...lol
Thanks. I got a new job recently and yeah a few people were asking me why Sequential doesn't do an interview with me or at least have me on their artist roster. Not a huge deal to me, they don't owe me anything, I'm just a bum lol...but yeah a free Prophet XL would be nice ;)
Great insights. How ya feeling about the X now? Any shortcomings or stuff missing you wish it had?
Love it. To the point I’m considering getting a Prophet XL to accompany it. I think my only feature request would be the ability to transpose the sequence on the fly without having to hold down the record button. I’m sure it can be an easy implementation with a new OS update. It’s not a huge deal, I can use a stand-alone sequencer for that if I really need to have it for a track but so far it works fine for my soundtrack work.
@@EverettDudgeon138 Has ADIO pushed out an editor and other samples? Is it oversimplifying to think the synth functions are the same to the rev2? Im debating if the sample is worth the price diff between rev2 16 and the X.
@@blindianajones A user on the Sequential forum Lady Gaia developed her own sample mapper/editor so I've been using that. The synth functions are essentially greater on the Prophet X than the REV2 to be honest even if they are digital.
@@EverettDudgeon138 Do you like and use the X sequencer?
@@blindianajones Yup, I use the sequencer all the time.
Thank you .I recently bought the NI session strings pro .It is very good but the computer struggles . Could you do a comprehensive tutorial on the sequencer ?
The sequencer is pretty simple. 64 steps with up to 6 notes per step max. Can only implement the notes in real time. Very similar to the poly sequencer on the Prophet REV2. Its just really easy to get song ideas out using it.
Nice programming!
Thanks!
I’m going to get one myself as I think the sound creation could be exceptional, like having my old Emulator 2 / 3 back but with a serious synth engine. Just wish the filter was multi mode. Like you I have the Prophet 6 and had the 37 (which I sold for a Model D but am replacing with a subsequent) So I’d interested in your view on how they overlap (or not)
Well I was thinking about replacing my Sub 37 with a Grandmother but honestly I like the fact the Sub has patch memory. It makes recording with it a lot quicker. That’s not to say I don’t think non memory based synths aren’t great...I’m looking into some ARP Odyssey modules and possibly the Moog Matriarch but it’s nice to have a Moog that you can just quickly record if you have an idea as opposed to spending time patching.
EverettDudgeon138 . If I’m honest it was a mistake. I needed to raise cash for the D and thought (was advised) the Sub37 was quite similar, but it’s actually very different and the patch memories are extremely useful. I find I get better ideas on hardware and have become addicted to the Prophet 6 in that regard, with the sequencer for scratchpad ideas. The Prophet X might be exactly what I’ve needed for years though, plus more with the granular angle, then being able to take it on the road. Thanks for the video. It’s great and is one of the only ones that highlights what I would want to use it for. (Sorry to hear about the job... happened to me too, shitty)
@@Bigmojo75 Yeah I'm actually really debating between the new Pro 3 and the two ARP Odyssey Desktops.
Everett with a DAW ( I have cubase ) can you control the layer volumes with CC out to PX using a midi controller fader bring them up and down ? If I get this it won’t be in reach so will use 88 key and akai MPD 226 faders to control it sometimes .....
Yes you should be able to do that via CC.
@@EverettDudgeon138 thx. and how is the synth engine sound to your ears that filter is very different ...I have or had at some point Dave’s synths so very familiar w P6 , P12, This one sounds warm and stable at times like OB ....
Thank you for all that you do. Please do more PX sample packs...preferably more orchestral stuff.
I have a Quantum. Sold my Montage, because the Ui was drving me nuts...besides the Quatum, only have the Mpc live...do you think the Prophet x and Quantum can cover most Areas ? Maybe besides Monosynth/ Moog stuf ? The prophet seems warm and "round" , not like the Quantum at all...thiniking they can complement each other, for someone with little phisical space.
To me the Quantum feels like a jack of all trades, master of few. It has things the PX doesn't, Wavetable engine, direct sampling etc but I feel the PX has some benefits over it. For one, a huge library of built in samples ready to be manipulated right out of the box, Quantum doesn't have any pianos, choirs, guitar samples on board from what I'm aware (which always shocked me since they included a ton of PCM samples in the much cheaper Blofeld). The sampling space is also much larger on the PX and with the new support from SampleRobot for the PX, you can get incredibly intricate with the editing. Also the signal path isn't true stereo. The signal is collapsed into mono as it goes into the filter and then converted back to stereo. The PX has a true stereo analog filter with both right and left channels. Of course there is also the fact the Quantum is fixed at 8 voices max while the PX can go from 8 to 16 to 32 in different modes.
I do think they compliment each other though.
@@EverettDudgeon138The Quantum samples are mostly texrures, soinds, ambiences. Little in the way of Real instrumets...it is more ...synth stuuff if you know what i mean. There is a Piano however i included. But the samples in the Prophet x are very different in nature and quantity. Apart from that. From the demos the sound charater apoears very different....the Quantum is more hi fi ish, and capable of being really alien, dirty and harsh but not in a bass heavy analogish style. The Prophet x seems from yt , and yor demos , warmer and more "musical'.
workstations are fantastic instruments!!
They are! I just find more often than not I spend way too much time programming and less time performing with them. That being said, I am warming up to them again.
@@EverettDudgeon138 too true!!!
Nice video , Prophet X looks to be an enjoyable machine , Audio is good but your vocal has a bit of room echo .
Bobby Klipper Yup! I got a headset mic after I did this one. :) So going forward my voice should sound a bit better.
Do you also have to switch the midi setting as soon you work in DAW (local off). I dint have to switch anything with all other synths. Or do you have found out how to bypass this step?
I just need to switch MIDI Din port to USB in the Global Settings.
EverettDudgeon138 hey! Thx for your swift reply and help! I‘ll tryvit right away!! Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
EverettDudgeon138 great:,I tried it: you kean midi in? Actially have found lots of midi settings in general, but no midi in. Maybe just an isdue in my DAW ? Logic?
Isn't this the same as blending a polyphonic synthesizer with a kontakt-instrument? Cause... I already do that... for way less money.
No because all the sounds are inside the actual instrument as opposed to loads of various VSTs on your computer and you are using the samples as if they are oscillators. There’s a lot more modulation possibilities...but it’s completely up to your workflow and what you can afford.
Thanks. It really does sound great.
Can you show us the VS waves on. Show us how they work
Since you asked - just hang some tapestries on the wall to kill some of the echo on your voice.
cahenglish For sure. I may do that later. I got a headset mic so I’ll be using that for future videos as well.
prophet replaces a kronos... wow.. but why not keeping some gear?
My dad and I had the Kronos for a while now and neither of us really got that into it. I hate large screens on synths especially touch screens and while it’s certainly capable I found I was just spending more time menu diving rather than recording or doing anything with it. As far as workstations go I would still say the Kurzweil is still king but even with them I’d rather get a SP6 over a Forte. But for me because the PX can just generate sounds so quickly and you can modify those sounds so fast that I don’t see the need for a lot of bells and whistles workstations have anymore. I can just program a quick on board sequence or two, sync the PX to my DAW and hit record and sequence drums, string runs, guitar riffs on the fly. Of course you can also control it with an external midi sequencer like a Carbon or something should you require more intricate and extensive sequencing.
Mmmmhhhh...I am waiting something like a jazz part played with a Rhode sound from a 16 voices synth...Not sure the Prophet X will cover every single situation a Workstation/Stage piano can. Anyway, great keyboard.
coyotesynth It’s not meant to cover a workstation or be a stage piano as I said. There’s plenty of options for those. As a composer it allows me to record what I need faster as opposed to menu diving. I already have a Roland V Piano for my dedicated piano sound and if I need a dedicated Rhodes or Wurlitzer sound, I’d look into the Crumar 7. I guess my mentality is I’d rather have a bunch of different synths that specialize for specific things rather than one that’s a jack of all trades but master of few.
EverettDudgeon138 you said you have experience with the FA-08? How is it? I’ve been thinking about eventually upgrading my Casio Privia 360 to a higher end work station. Been using it mainly for composing midi with weighted keys using vsts for Kontakt but realizing that it would be more efficient to compose on board like you with Prophet X. However, having external synths I’m wondering if besides piano sound if it would be worth it over current setup or if I should save up for Prophet X?
Shawn Saul The FA08 is a great sketchpad. I wrote many tracks on it. It really comes down to your workflow and if you want instant interaction with the sound of your gear or you want to pump out compositions quickly.
I have a Kronos X 73, Motif XS6 and Nord Electro 4D. I bought all of them used over the last few years (they're all like new) and I have a total of $3700 in all of them, less than this synth costs new. the only new synth I've bought in the last 15+ years is a Prophet REV2. I'm more of a player and not so much into composing or recording. this does seem like a fine machine and no doubt has features that other instruments don't. but the only instrument I've ever paid this kind of money for was a really nice Hammond B3 (which I ended up selling to a church.)
chieftp At this point I’m not sure I’d get an actual Hammond B3. It would be more of an ego trip or a nice to have than a practical instrument compared to one of the digital stage organs like a Crumar or something. A real B3 would be like a real Rhodes or Mellotron. Too cumbersome to move and too time consuming to record.
actually, I'm mainly a Hammond guy and nothing has yet to match the tone of a real Hammond or the effect of a real Leslie. 4 bars and percussion, yeah - it's pretty difficult to tell in a mix if you're just doing jazz. but when you pull out the upper drawbars, that 1' just sings on a real Hammond like it just doesn't on any clone.
chieftp I think that classic Hammond sound has more to do with the Leslie than the organ itself. Run a Crumar through a real rotating Leslie speaker and it sounds just as good. Same as if you ran it through an actual Marshall amp for that John Lord sound or 100 Watt Hiwatt stacks for Emerson. A lot of those “classic” organ sounds we adore off records were more to do with how the organs were processed and amplified rather than the organ itself. So many assume Emerson used a B3. He actually used an A100 I believe.
nah - night and day between a tonewheel organ and a "clonewheel." Keith Emerson had a C3 (same guts as B3/A100) and an L100 (that's the one he rode like a horse and stabbed and stuff.) I've actually played a Crumar mojo through a 3300 Leslie. I didn't think it sounded that great. there's also a huge difference in the way B3s sound depending on the vintage. about every 5 years or so they made slight changes in the components, so they all have a different flavor. a real Hammond actually sound better through a Leslie effect (neovent for example) than most clones through a real Leslie. I've tried Nord electro and a numa organ 2 through a Leslie - not even close to the real thing. I've been Hammonding for almost 30 years so I guess I pick up on the differences...sort of like different people look at something and don't see the same thing.
chieftp That’s awesome man. Would love to maybe have you lay a few organ lines down on some of my compositions.
Hey! Can you explain to me how the add ons work?
I heard you can upload prophet 5 sounds, does that mean you can turn the knobs in real-time as if you were controlling or playing a real prophet 5?
Or is just samples of patches made and you can select them and play them, but not modify them
It’s both samples of raw oscillators as well as samples of the original Prophet 5 patches. Since the Prophet X is using a filter based on the SSM filter in the Prophet 5 you can certainly emulate the feel of a real Prophet 5 with the interface and of course take it so much further with the PX’s onboard features.
EverettDudgeon138 cool! I would love to hear you do a demonstration of the add ons, showcasing the raw oscillator samples of the prophet 5 , especially the ob x add on if you got it , maybe sound design with it .
It’s a very neat instrument. Thinking of getting one
@@synthdude7664 You know I actually didn't put any of 8Dio's add ons in. I imported a ton of Fairlight, Synclavier, Emulator, D50 samples from CyborgStudio though.
Stephen sequencer is in Chrome 1/8 ever.....canto you record others figure?
BJM Mario Bajardi I believe what you are asking is if the sequencer has clock divide and the answer is yes.
what?
Get those patches online for us
What about bass or 808 sounds?.... does the prophet have that, say if you wanted to do a "thor sound track"..or trap or hip hop in a soundtrack?
Yup it has loads of bass samples and has trap and EDM drum kits pre installed.
@@EverettDudgeon138 Thank you everett... so kind of you man....I notice that sound designers give the prophet alot of criticism in comparison to the Quantum. But when I tried the quantum, I found far less pianos and playable instruments. Also the prophet seemed easier to create a loop for playable songs. What was your experience with the Quantum. What made you choose the prophet over it?
Brian Nzuwah Well a few things
1. I’m familiar with Sequential’s U.I. I knew where most things were before I got it out of the box.
2. The Quantum didn’t have any useable onboard samples out of the box to experiment with. Why they didn’t include the PCM samples from the Blofeld I have no idea.
3. I found the Quantum to be trying to be so many things at once it lacked focus. It was trying to be a virtual analog, a sampler, a Wavetable synth etc. I find synths that tend to so that feel like incomplete workstations. If you are going to have everything in there, why only have 8 voices? Why only have bi timbrality? May as well get a Forte or Kronos.
4. I hate touch screens on synths.
5. The Quantum collapses the signal to mono to run through its analog filter...the PX has two stereo filters that you can modulate Independently which is perfect for the stereo samples and things like pan spread.
I honestly don’t think I’d be able to have scored the films I have with as many different styles that I have with the Quantum. It would have fallen into the “more programming less composing” scenario I was running into with workstations.
I’m actually seriously considering getting a Prophet XL to accompany the Prophet X. That’s how much I love it.
If you had to pick between the prophet x or prophet 6 - which one would you pick?
prettdboy I mean they are totally different machines. If it was out of passion the Prophet 6. If it was out of necessity the Prophet X.
Prophet x ofcourse
nice Dark Knight ya end brudda
Thanks! Ha I couldn’t resist
ITs an amazing synth, but for live performers you still need a Kronos paired with it.
I’m more of a Kurzweil man myself. Never got on with the Kronos and I’ll likely be selling it once the pandemic has calmed down
But it has no sequencer?
At 6:09 I talk about the onboard dual step sequencer
Holy smokes, every time I import my own samples, Prophet XL goes to hell. I love that it users out there can connect with it, but I'd rather fling myself into the ocean with a Casio PX-5S tied around my neck than deal with the Prophet X.
I’m not sure what it is but it seems some users are having difficulty with sample import while others are having no issues at all. Sequential has updated the OS and while there was an initial bug with sample import it has since been fixed and on the Sequential form people are sharing Mellotron samples, Behringer Neutron samples and others. I myself am doing some Fairlight samples and there is a user on the Sequential forum that created their own mapping software which has more features than 8Dio’s Beta one.
Personally I think those that are having difficulty with the PX are likely overlooking something cause if it was a faulty system then everyone would be having their machines “go to hell.”
@@EverettDudgeon138 Thanks, Everett. I imported my own samples, played a while, Instrument 2 stops playing, loud noise begins building, entire control panel freezes, screens go fuzzy... yeah. Can't think of what I'm overlooking since it was working correctly. It didn't crash immediately after sample import. I'll keep plugging away.
The only downfall are those knobs. It bothers my fingers that the grip only goes part the way up. That is part of the reason I got rid of my DSI Mopho SE. I know thats just a personal preference but it's so annoying. If I ever get this synth (or more likely, a prophet 6 module) I will have to replace the knobs. Other than that this synth is great. I cant wait until Dave retires those knobs.
Jim Morrison, back from the dead!
HA!! Well the dude did predict how music was going to go "All computer based"
BTW, great review. I'm buying one soon.
Your voice has a lot of echo and reverb dude :-)
Ha! I still haven’t found a proper set up to record my voice. Hopefully in the future,
"Dude" No disrespect but, can you do just one vid in crumpled clothes, a robe, and drinking a White Russian...and give....you know.....Your Opinions Man..... (all in fun, Peace).
kspsd Haha you are actually the third person that said I look like The Dude this week.
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8dioproductions Glad you approve.
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BJM Mario Bajardi Sorry I don’t have that capability.
Bro you spent 5k on choir sounds... get an oberhiem... cringe
Van Hau5 I have an Oberheim Two Voice Pro on the way.
Yeah sorry that was a dick post. 2 voice is ok. I just like the polyphony of like an ob x or xa even the 8. There so fat