Robbie ... youre a smart man & very talented with that said ... painting a plane might be one idea you might want to walk away from I can appericate the desire of the challenge , but to what cost ? planes require money & lots (LOTS) of time you may wanna pro/con list the hell outta this idea BEFORE you jump both feet first
There are so many projects in your local area, you can impact a lot of local folks with your painting and body work. My two cents worth is to keep your feet on the ground and find projects that will impact the little guy. Keep up your videos, they are an enjoyment to watch.
Painting the plane would be great , but be very careful. I’ve been in the aviation business since 1968 and have painted and seen lots of aircraft painted . Make sure to talk with some one who has done it before you do it . From stripping and preparing the surface to the actual painting . You have to remember unlike a car airplanes fly so weight ( paint ) and balance flight controls after paint is critical. But I know you guys can do it . Thanks for the video
agreed i have seen stall warning sensor tabs, pitot tubes, venturi tubes, etc painted on a plane or 2 and we had to resolve the issue. there is a lot of little things you really do not paint. We painted a few planes and then we would always get the guy that did not like our price and would have some auto guy paint it, then he would end up paying us to fix the things that needed fixed because it now did not pass inspection.
@@Thejohnnyoshow yup been there . I have so many stories of what can happen,gear won’t come down, windows fail inspection , media blasted panels that don’t fit anymore , rivet heads being sanded down and then have to be replaced,flight controls that have to be stripped and repainted because they have to much paint on them and won’t balance and all of these things happened at paint shops that’s all they do is paint aircraft . Aviation is a very non forgiving sport don’t ever forget that
@@mikekuczynski1552 Even something simple like sanding off a bit of difficult paint can cause problems down the road...that aluminum is alclad, meaning the outer layer is corrosion resistant but it's less than a thou thick, so when you sand any of that aluminum you end up with spots of corrosion that bubble up under the paint. If it's in an area you don't notice, you'll have a hole in your skin or panel before long.
My Grandfather built planes for the 30's to the space shuttle program, and always paint was issue with balance and weight with him going into a sarcastic tirade about the painters, so with that i dunno if robby should try this or not, aircraft repaints are harder than new original paint jobs. also stripping old paint off is a different process altogether as sanding the metal changes surface airflow, and bondo or body filler isn't an option on planes. I would turn the job down, seeing this is a big job that can turn into a many cans of worms pretty fast.
I was in auto painting for over 30 years and certified by most major brands. I saw a need in our area for aircraft painting and figured "how hard can it be"? So after nearly two years of EPA and other barriers, including building a paint-specific hanger, we embarked on the new career. It went great until 9/11 when the bottom fell out of the market. Ok, it's obvious that this particular project is just a one-off deal, but make totally sure that you understand that this is much much more involved than painting a car. To do it right the plane must have all control surfaces removed, stripped and rebalanced. Non aircraft folks don't understand the effect of the extra weight of new paint if the old finish isn't removed or the danger in simply a 'scuff and shoot'. If you paint the wheels on a car and don't tighten the lug nuts the driver can pull over to the side of the road.. If you screw up any part of an aircraft control systems it can fall out of the sky.. There are too many little, but critical, details to convey in this format but as good of a painter as you are i recommend against doing this. I'm sure you can do it, but is it worth it?
The plane would be a great challenge for a good cause. However, it seems that you've got more than enough projects that better fit your teams skill set.
painting ain't painting.... with aircraft all the control surfaces need to be weighed and balanced. can't fill a with loads of bondo... entire aircraft will have to be reweighed after painting
First I have to say I do understand Robbie’s desire to help. The problem with this plane though is the last thing anyone should be worried about is painting it. I work in aviation and I can tell you this particular plane, a Cessna 401, is a money pit. And it will take every dollar they can raise to get it 100% airworthy again. When and if it ever reaches that point again, where it is safe to fly, then maybe you worry about painting it. If you have any money left. A common statement in aviation is if you want to make a little money in aviation start with a lot of money.
Thats a massive job Robby and we know you and the team are always up for some great challenges. However, I think this is a job that you honestly need to think long and hard about before making any commitment. I don't think you need to do this for your channel and the followers here wouldn't blame you for not taking on something that may well and truly overwhelm your business.
Hello Robby and the Crew! I have been watching Rescue Rebuild for a while now and I've been watching your channel, Matt, Paul, Matt, Chad and a few others all tied together to you all. It's been awesome to see you all working together on various projects. Most importantly the Nugget. As a retire US Air Force Vet, I'd love to see you get involved with the 401 project. That would be soo cool. Thanks for all the killer content! Peace and love to you all!
BTW, I watch a lot of Matt's content. I'm in Phoenix, AZ and do a fair amount of off roading in my 98 Gen 3 4Runner. I've learned a lot about safe recovery and plan to do it as a volunteer in retirement which is just 3 years away. I've enjoyed the content there from you and Paul..
IMHO while the Cessna is for a great cause, I would focus on cool builds that are in your wheelhouse. Dinner and Hillbilly need cool rides. There are so many other opportunities to help people.
I've upholstered a few smaller private planes, and even they needed proper paperwork in their log books for fire retardant material and burnability. Also weight savings at every turn. Like a lot of others have said, really assess amount of liability for your company. Great thing that they are doing for veterans, but it's a big job. There are two companies near me who do jet refurbishing and rebuilds. Everything done is all in house. Good luck in your decision.
Rite ! He was in shock thinking whut have I got myself into ? I’ve done that drinking at night & volunteer to do a job & next day , say wtf was I thinking ? I wasn’t I was drinking…… lol
As someone mentioned in the comments, the liability risk might be a little more than you'd want to take on. Every hand (business) that touched the aircraft will be sued if she ever crashed. You may want to consult with your insurance carriers to see if they'd underwrite your liability.
I second this comment. People are crazy and they think if you own an airplane you have lots of money and they line up to sue you and anyone else that has ever touched it.
You're going to want to take a hard look at this. There are aircraft paint specialists for a reason. I'm sure once you learned the ins and outs of it you could do it, but this is major. I don't think one could successfully part-time a project like this. Staying tuned.
Two of my favorite channels working together, that would be awesome. When I saw you show up on RebuildRescue's channel a few days ago, I was smiling like a child. I wish you can help with that airplane project.
I was surprised to see this plane on your channel I actually watched him get that running again before I found your channel. It looks like a crazy job. I wouldn't be mad if you didn't do it but I think you're up for the challenge.
The second I saw what your doing with the pickup truck for a family, I hit the subscribe button. it's people like you that make America good. This country sure could use more people like you and Jason right now.
The automotive painting is enjoyable to watch and relatable. I personally won't watch videos about a plane being painted as its outside my area of interest. Also, if worried about the quantum of work before starting a job, thats the time to run away screaming.
It'd be super cool if you could paint it. But don't let it stress you out. If it seems like too much, pass on it. I know I would feel very intimidated, haha.
I do this in the USAF for the F16s. You have a big crew and it'll be just fine; you may want to talk with some other aviation painters to figure out what goes into it first. Don't want to sand down a button-head rivet to nothing. You may want to reassess stripping it down to the bare metal.
Just rattle can it. What's the big deal? I never understood the concept of spending thousands on a paint job that will almost def get messed up at some point. When I pull into a parking spot with a shopping cart in it, I don't get out and move it, I send it flying with my bumper. If you want to keep your car from being scratched and dented, you'd better park way out in left field, or take the bus.
@@JT_70 My house is just fine. It outlasted a direct hit by Ian. A car is just a tool like a hammer or a wrench. It has one purpose, to get you back and forth to work or to the store, etc. You can't live in a car, or you have bigger problems.
@@mikeworkman3593 I love pushing carts around with my truck, but I push them back in the little corrals without getting out because I'm not a dick that sends shopping carts flying into other people's vehicles.
@@mikeworkman3593 because when it comes to aviation it's corrosion control not looks, so if it is not painted correctly and the metal is exposed to the elements the strength of the metal is compromised. Even the smallest amount can be cause for concern because the stresses put on an aircraft are a lot more than just a car.
Plane came from the factory in '69 with cold lacquer. The current paint is some kind of polyurethane or modified polyurethane. It can be painted with base coat clear coat if desired. Paint designed to adhere to aluminum usually works best. At current rate, it will be 3-4 yrs before this 401 is ready for paint.
I love all the things you work on, and while I really enjoyed the Golden Nugget build, I'm not really sure what hours on end of hours of sanding followed by more sanding which this project would probably be 90% of would bring to the channel. I'd much rather see Aiden's truck, Dinners truck, Hillbilly's bronco, your Jeep, Paul's hotrod??, and any other cool ideas closer to home than this overstretch of a channel collab. Nothing against Rebuild Rescue, I've been subscribed to his channel for a while now as well, but I'd much rather enjoy my trifecta of Robby, Matt, & Paul and the down to earth family fun you guys have over the Rescue Rebuilds, and Heavy D's of the tuberverse.
Do it!!!!!! As a Vet things like this mean so much for to the community. I have painted many A/C during my years, its a lot of work to make it look nice but the cause will be worth it.
I would make sure that all the corrosion issues have all been addressed and signed-off by an A&P. As I recall there was some serious structural corrosion issues. Because of that there might be some risk of liability to every company that touches it, if it fails in flight and people die.
I know you're trying to grow your channel and do great things with it. Your heart is in the right place but I would rather see autobody. Aiden's truck build is one of my favorites and the nugget was great. I think an airplane is going in the wrong direction, even if it is for a good cause.
I hear what you youre saying, but i think it would make an interesting video. especially if it was just a couple episodes. It doesnt have to be the scale of the golden nugget.
It's a massive job compared to the golden nugget it will take months to finish, that's why I'm not that interested in it myself, but good luck to him if he's taking on this challenge
@Rex Pirata I for one love to see colab efforts from YT creators. Especially like this. Ive watches these guys separately for a while and it was a surprise to see them cross paths.
Robby and Layton Auto Body crew...you guys painting the Cessna 401 would be cool, no doubt. But before you commit to stripping, prepping and painting it just make sure you check into all of the technical, FAA and such requirements on dealing with the rivets, methods used, chemicals that can be used, etc AND all of the steps, materials, paint and so on. If it isn't too complex, involved and difficult...go for it, it would be very different and unusual, a unique project and content for your channel. I like cars, trucks, cycles AND airplanes...and a 1969 twin engine turbo Cessna that hauls multiple passengers is cool. ;)
Painting aircraft is so different from automotive! I have seen automotive painters write off aircraft. But the 401 is pretty basic. I’m so keen to see this! Do it Robby!!!
Take your 10 ft pole and carry it in front of you, so you don't get too close. Simple things like paint sagging to the trailing edge changes balance on control surfaces. It's a huge can of worms. Don't wander out of your car lane. Let the aircraft painters do their thing.
aircraft paint is a whole different beast, aluminum primer needs to etch into the metal, and the finish coat needs to stand up to 300 mph, I wouldn't say painting is painting, cars are cars, and planes are plains.
I’m currently an A&P mechanic I love airplanes and have painted them myself. I read through some of the comments about some peoples concerns and would like to touch on one of them. As for the liability side of things as far as I know the liability falls mainly on the person that returned the airplane to service. Most “professional” aviation paint shops have one person that signs the project off most of the workers do not have licenses. I know you guys would do an amazing job! Thanks
Props to you Robby for even contemplating such a massive & specialized job you know little about. I wish you and the RLN team all the best whatever your decision.
Hey Robby! Super excited to see this video. It was super awesome meeting you at the Offroad Expo in Pomona! It was awesome talking about aircraft maintenance and painting with you!
Maybe shoot them an email? Plane looks like they need a little army of professionals to fix it... the sooner it gets done, the sooner they can use it to help people.
Visit a hanger that paints planes aske questions. Planes are very weight sensitive. This will add to your resume for sure. I will definitely be tuned in for this..
This would be awesome to watch. I'm confident they would get the right advisors on board. With research, advisors/mentors, and inspectors it's a ton of work but achievable.
Robbie didn’t look like his happy self in this one. Hope you are doing okay. Love that you have found ways to help less fortunate people. Feels so good.
OK, all them volunteers, please do line up and be prepared for a big but interesting and entertaining project..good onya team..Luv the involvement..Cheers.
This is a worthy adventure and project. Research is a critical aspect of this rebuild. this plane is thoroughly trashed. I would recommend going to a WWII aviation restoration group that brings planes back to life and learn from them the detail work involved. Corrosion from bird crap etc. I hope you get involved only because of the videos you'll make in gaining the knowledge of doing this.... OH... go visit Mike Patey. He's in Utah and one who will gladly school you in this project, not to mention he might participate.
You're a picky painter, which isnt a bad thing, your work turns out Great!!! DONT take this on, those rivets and your precision will drive you CRAZY!!!
This would be a great opportunity for Aiden to a part of. Kind of like a pay it forward such as he’s getting with him and his dads truck! Plus a life long memory!!
I love watching your channel and I followed the airplane series so I was surprised to see you there. It's a great project but it will be way too big in my opinion it will probably last way over 6 months to finish and it's just not the content I my self would be interested in, but if you want to take on the challenge all the best to you. Another one you could take on and one that would be way more doable is JerryRigEverything's electric HUMMVEE, he's planning on painting it and he's from Utah. Anyway good luck with whatever you choose!
Do it! I've watched both your channels and I think it's a worthy cause. I agree with the guy below to check out the process - but airplanes get painted all the time and you can do a superb job on it. I'd really like to have you paint 240 Z eventually also.
I heard of an automotive painter making an expensive airplane become worthless because he sanded the rivots. The rivots became questionable to hold the plane together.
It would be pretty sweet to have the plane painted, but I agree with other comments below. Painting an aircraft is no small deal. Stripping the paint is a major issue as well. Much of what used to be done with chemical strippers has gone by the wayside due to EPA issues. Painting over the existing paint is a no-go due to the added weight. Consulting with aviation paint firms is a must do and when all is said and done, a new weight and balance will be required after painting. Our unit in Germany used to own the USAREUR paint shop and we painted all the US Army helicopters in Europe. Dieter Kosiel (an escapee from East Germany) ran the paint shop like a well-oiled machine and did superb work. Good luck and I'm sure it will look great.
This is crazy! All my favorite channels are coming together. All we need now is for WhistlenDiesel to come around and take this plane for a "spin" or Vice Grips Garage to start this thing and fly it home!
Derek or Cody getting ahold of this thing would be a travesty of unlimited proportions. That being said, I’d be here for the shit show lmao Love those guys
ROBBIE, DINNER, HILLBILLY AND CREW, AMAZED I AM!!! DOIN PROJECTS like this will take you far and wide... y'all will be famous for it...watch out, because success will overtake you!!!
Rebuild Rescue, your team is awesome your dedication for the Military and helping them is heart touched. If Robby decides to take this on that will be a show. Go get it.
I've seen airplanes repainted when I was in the Air Force and the biggest difference is that everything was stripped down to bare metal because of weight. They were prepped and painted in a hanger and they used pressure pot spray guns.
Sounds like when I painted Ferrari race cars , every 2-3 weeks razor blade all the paint off & repaint the whole car. Job security! Lol the boss said a paint job was 20lb we can’t have unwanted weight.
I say paint it! But like many others I also say be careful and get a lot of advise and help from others. It would be a great project to learn on, and another great way to lend a hand helping others who help others... Love you guys!
It's funny how I watch both channels for a long time but both from different worlds and I have donated to the 401 build through go fund me and now I am watching both worlds colliding and I never thought I would see Robbie helping the aviation world. To tell you the truth, Robbie looked overwhelmed and a little nervous about taking on this project and didn't want to disappoint with saying no. Robbie, not a single one of us would be disappointed if you said no, we all understand, but if you do do it, make sure it isn't going to interfere with your own family life and business, if it can be done and you feel confident on doing it then we are behind you as well. Make the right decision and choice for yourself Robbie and family.
Robby: DON'T DO IT ! The only thing that is the same with painting cars is paint.... every thing else is totally different, first : evaluate safety regulations.
Only able to put one thumbs up on this comment! Because Robbie is doing research, and reading comments, I'll say make certain of the regulations. Your staff can do it technically, sure. You might have to augment your staff with someone with an airframe cert.
Had a client some years ago who operated an aviation paint shop. As far as i remember him telling me, aircraft paint differs from automotive paint vastly in that it is formulated to work in extreme temperature variances, remains stretchable (a big plane can "swell/grow" quite a bit when pressurized up high), the weight (less) and coverage (high) also differs quite a bit from automotive paint. Then there is also a lot of prep (back to a green plane) that is very specific to aviation with many regulations. As with every skill, it can be learnt. You just need to figure if the juice is worth the squeeze. On a sidenote: Many of his customers used aircraft paint on racecars applying only a single coat to shave a few extra pounds off.
No.. Pass on it. This is very different than Auto paint and auto repair. Look how long the golden nugget took and this would be much longer and difficult. I would like to see you restore that Mustang that Vice Grip Garage just posted.
I agree with Anthony, this may just be a bit much. Appreciate your commitment and your energy. This is a huge endeavor and there can't be a single shortcut, no rip this apart, no ohh this doesn't just fit right.... it needs to be perfect and there needs to be engineering supervision to make sure that it also works what your ideas are.
Really suprised to see people saying not to paint this plane. Me personally I wanna see you paint this just because of all the people saying to pass on it. This plane is going to get used for a really good things. Helping out a lot of people.
I agree with you. I'm not into auto body work at all, but love Robby's channel. It's a great channel and great people. If you're NOT going to watch it because it's a plane then I think you are here for the wrong reasons to begin with.
@Josey Wilds how do we go from talking about painting a plane. To that's probably how you vote. F the consequences. I mean I could be like you and say. Your mom didn't think of the consequences. She should of swallowed but she didn't. Now we have Brite intelligent people like you in this world that can just try and twist and turn anything into something bad. Good job your a real stand up kinda guy. But I won't go their. Now if you wanna have a conversation about why you and a lot of people think it's a bad idea to help this guy out and paint a plane that's going to end up running rescue missions, and fly U.S. veterans to different places for different reasons and help just about any foundation out with transporting what ever they need to help them with their cause. I would be happy to hear it. As I see it if it is going to help out any veterans from the USA I would say that's something they deserve for what they have sacrificed to keep the USA what it is today. And as far as robby painting a plane. Everyone is acting like it going to destroy everything he has. I think just the opposite. That plane is big yes but is just like painting a vehicle. Same steps just a lot bigger of a project. And if everyone's problem is that it's a plane not a car or truck or jeep it not a vehicle. Just remember that a lot of your performance parts that go on any vehicle on the road. Where more than likely an evolved part that a pilot or aircraft mechanic came up with. A lot of performance parts are things that veterans came up with. In WWII Pilots and their mechanics where always doing thing to the planes to make them faster and faster. A key to a dog fight was being fast and a good shot. When they came home from the war. They didn't stop messing with motors and start serving burgers. They started making street race cars. That's how the mustang got so popular. Just about every house wife got one while their husband was fighting. When the men came home. They started making performance parts for them. So planes and cars are very similar. I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's for a good cause. And if anything it's going to get robby a lot more followers for sure. And we will be closer to having that charger giveaway. But hay if I win it I will pick you up and take you for a ride my friend. Lol
Only if they pay for paint and materials, and haul it back to Utah for you! You can't do it for free, aviation paint is spendy, and hauling it back to Utah is expensive! You and the whole crew are the best!! Keep up the good work!
I wouldn’t take this job on. I’ve had to turn down jobs before that I really really wanted to do like this, and it’s hard cause you wanna help, but sometimes it’s the best decision for everyone
No . While it is a worthy cause you don’t have the crew to do this in addition to the time. Also. If you think viewers complained about sanding on the Golden Nugget.... Donate, thank them for the offer and step quickly away.
@Robby Layton pass on painting the plane! A plane is a very different animal, and involves way to much risk. It would also be a time hog! Much see you stick to trucks and SUVs and such! Looking forward to seeing Dinner's Chevy Truck build, and Hillbilly's Ford Bronco II build! Enjoy watching your videos! -Rob in Tennessee
As much as I'd love to see Robby & the crew take this on & I've no clue what's involved, it does sound like too risky a project to take on given the risks. After all, if something goes bad with an aircraft, you can't just pull over. That's why there's such stringent laws & maintenance schedules with any aircraft. I'll support you no matter what though & good on you for even considering such a task.
as interesting as this would be, i don't think you should do it. A massive undertaking and something you'd be working on for ages at the expense of the many smaller projects you undertake (our attention spans aren't good enough for a plane with thousands of hours doing the same task). You have many smaller projects to keep us interested, and maybe another collab that won't be such a massive massive project will come along.
We has a beautiful Piper Cheyenne III, The main colors were Tan lower, bright white upper & a Maroon belt stripe that got wider on the T tail. Super classy looking for sure! Check out the business class jets & Turboprop planes for cool ideas.
From the UK, Robby, even if you did paint it I doubt it will ever get put back together, just look at their yard, lots of unfinished projects. May£vice, walk away and do one of the old cars in your yard, this would cost a lots of Dollars in materials alone.
I painted aircraft in the Navy even though I was an AT. The aircraft goes to a booth and gets a chemical strip. Then clean, alodine, prime and paint. We used two part poly in the old days then had to use epoxy later. If I had to do any sanding those rivets suck. They take a long time to clean around them. That plane is much smaller than what I painted. Different S3 and H3 and H60 aircraft. Now they are all camo paint which is way easier to apply. If you have not done that before then it is a pretty big job.
I helped refinish planes in the late 70's and 80' we used epoxy based paints. And to strip paint and prep for primer we used zebco acid scrubed with mutable types of steel wool and scoch gaurd pads. The acid ech and alidin surfaces. Then prim and paint. It's alot of work a very time consuming. Good luck best of wishes.
As many said, definitely outside the area of interest for most, I don’t think you’d bring in the views and would be too much of a stretch for the little crew. I’d say pass on it
Robbie, I am so proud to know that you and your team have a good heart and are willing to help with a good cause. I hope you do paint this plane and I cant wait to see what it brings along the way. I hope to get a chance to come see you someday and keep up the good work brother!
If you thought sanding and Prepping the Nugget was a Chore, wait until you have Airplane to deal with, the perfect Job for Hillbilly to Evolve as a Painter
Robby, I’ve read quite a few of the comments here and there are many more of the “be careful”, “don’t do it”, than the “go for its”. A man has to know his limitations.
Go for it Robbie but your going to need some more help than just your crew and some Tech advice on Aircraft. Maybe bring in a retired aircraft painter or engineer. 😀
I am always excited to see you have a new video posted. Until today : / this Rebuild Rescue guy is a scam artist. I started watching the first video of this plane to see if he could get it started. Then he started asking for donations, and that's cool he wants to make it a plane that flies people that need flights. He then magically found a big boat that he started asking for the viewer's help to donate money to help fix it up. I don't get a good feeling from this guy and everything revolving around this plane he got for free. Just like I stopped following his channel I'm not going to watch this video.
If you do decide to take on the 401 you should consider bringing in specialists in painting aircraft to help with it. I think without aircraft specific knowledge the risk would be too high to do the painting yourself. As others have said, things like weight and balance are critical to an aircraft. Other things like air pressure and temperature would also affect the paint over the lifetime of the aircraft. Paint on an aircraft will be subjected to things paint on a car isn't, so definitely find a specialist if you do commit to doing it.
The "Golden Eagle"??? I agree with Mike - there are a LOT rules and regs involved with airplanes. And don't forget the weight! It would be awesome to watch, though.
@UCcNs34Mi4ntXKcjyAjRyd6g Hi Robby & Family I am here in Australia enjoying your shows and what you do for other is fantastic keep up the great work Like you give to others so pass on my give to anyone Cheers from Down Under
I understand wanting to help... That plane is a huge job.. Like you said the rivets have to be completely clean... Count the rivets... No I don't think you should... It took a year for the Golden Nugget..
i was gonna make a comment on stuff but most people already covered that, but my grandfather was an aircraft engineer from the late 30's - 80's and his biggest complaint was the painters and paint weight, paint messing with airflow, paint making stuff stick, paint messing up sensors, paint making doors and panels not close, and this was on new plane builds, not a repaint. also FAA is gonna inspect that aircraft. On a plane repaint a stripper solvent is better than sanding due to changes in metal will affect airflow and rivets.
With the skills of your crew and the help from your community, combined with Jason and his crew and community I think it is a doable project. I would love to see it. It looks like a massive project, but I think that you can do it.
Robbie ...
youre a smart man & very talented
with that said ...
painting a plane might be one idea you might want to walk away from
I can appericate the desire of the challenge , but to what cost ?
planes require money & lots (LOTS) of time
you may wanna pro/con list the hell outta this idea BEFORE you jump both feet first
Jump backwards Robby it's a pipe dream. Bushyboy Oz.
I agree!!
Robby can do it. Although Robby needs to invest in a fine tooth comb and a small hanger for a paint booth.
Well I have a friend that paints airplanes for a living, it is a meticulous thing. It takes him around 6-8 weeks to paint one of smaller size.
There are so many projects in your local area, you can impact a lot of local folks with your painting and body work. My two cents worth is to keep your feet on the ground and find projects that will impact the little guy. Keep up your videos, they are an enjoyment to watch.
Very well said
Painting the plane would be great , but be very careful. I’ve been in the aviation business since 1968 and have painted and seen lots of aircraft painted . Make sure to talk with some one who has done it before you do it . From stripping and preparing the surface to the actual painting . You have to remember unlike a car airplanes fly so weight ( paint ) and balance flight controls after paint is critical. But I know you guys can do it . Thanks for the video
agreed i have seen stall warning sensor tabs, pitot tubes, venturi tubes, etc painted on a plane or 2 and we had to resolve the issue. there is a lot of little things you really do not paint. We painted a few planes and then we would always get the guy that did not like our price and would have some auto guy paint it, then he would end up paying us to fix the things that needed fixed because it now did not pass inspection.
@@Thejohnnyoshow yup been there . I have so many stories of what can happen,gear won’t come down, windows fail inspection , media blasted panels that don’t fit anymore , rivet heads being sanded down and then have to be replaced,flight controls that have to be stripped and repainted because they have to much paint on them and won’t balance and all of these things happened at paint shops that’s all they do is paint aircraft . Aviation is a very non forgiving sport don’t ever forget that
@@mikekuczynski1552 Even something simple like sanding off a bit of difficult paint can cause problems down the road...that aluminum is alclad, meaning the outer layer is corrosion resistant but it's less than a thou thick, so when you sand any of that aluminum you end up with spots of corrosion that bubble up under the paint. If it's in an area you don't notice, you'll have a hole in your skin or panel before long.
My Grandfather built planes for the 30's to the space shuttle program, and always paint was issue with balance and weight with him going into a sarcastic tirade about the painters, so with that i dunno if robby should try this or not, aircraft repaints are harder than new original paint jobs. also stripping old paint off is a different process altogether as sanding the metal changes surface airflow, and bondo or body filler isn't an option on planes. I would turn the job down, seeing this is a big job that can turn into a many cans of worms pretty fast.
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I was in auto painting for over 30 years and certified by most major brands. I saw a need in our area for aircraft painting and figured "how hard can it be"? So after nearly two years of EPA and other barriers, including building a paint-specific hanger, we embarked on the new career. It went great until 9/11 when the bottom fell out of the market.
Ok, it's obvious that this particular project is just a one-off deal, but make totally sure that you understand that this is much much more involved than painting a car. To do it right the plane must have all control surfaces removed, stripped and rebalanced. Non aircraft folks don't understand the effect of the extra weight of new paint if the old finish isn't removed or the danger in simply a 'scuff and shoot'. If you paint the wheels on a car and don't tighten the lug nuts the driver can pull over to the side of the road.. If you screw up any part of an aircraft control systems it can fall out of the sky.. There are too many little, but critical, details to convey in this format but as good of a painter as you are i recommend against doing this. I'm sure you can do it, but is it worth it?
The plane would be a great challenge for a good cause. However, it seems that you've got more than enough projects that better fit your teams skill set.
I tend to agree. This one worries me...
painting ain't painting.... with aircraft all the control surfaces need to be weighed and balanced. can't fill a with loads of bondo... entire aircraft will have to be reweighed after painting
First I have to say I do understand Robbie’s desire to help. The problem with this plane though is the last thing anyone should be worried about is painting it. I work in aviation and I can tell you this particular plane, a Cessna 401, is a money pit. And it will take every dollar they can raise to get it 100% airworthy again. When and if it ever reaches that point again, where it is safe to fly, then maybe you worry about painting it. If you have any money left. A common statement in aviation is if you want to make a little money in aviation start with a lot of money.
Thats a massive job Robby and we know you and the team are always up for some great challenges. However, I think this is a job that you honestly need to think long and hard about before making any commitment. I don't think you need to do this for your channel and the followers here wouldn't blame you for not taking on something that may well and truly overwhelm your business.
Agreed, definitely need to include the team in this decision. Frankly in your shoes I would do the boat instead and pass on the plane.
AGREE
Hello Robby and the Crew! I have been watching Rescue Rebuild for a while now and I've been watching your channel, Matt, Paul, Matt, Chad and a few others all tied together to you all. It's been awesome to see you all working together on various projects. Most importantly the Nugget. As a retire US Air Force Vet, I'd love to see you get involved with the 401 project. That would be soo cool.
Thanks for all the killer content! Peace and love to you all!
BTW, I watch a lot of Matt's content. I'm in Phoenix, AZ and do a fair amount of off roading in my 98 Gen 3 4Runner. I've learned a lot about safe recovery and plan to do it as a volunteer in retirement which is just 3 years away. I've enjoyed the content there from you and Paul..
IMHO while the Cessna is for a great cause, I would focus on cool builds that are in your wheelhouse. Dinner and Hillbilly need cool rides. There are so many other opportunities to help people.
I've upholstered a few smaller private planes, and even they needed proper paperwork in their log books for fire retardant material and burnability. Also weight savings at every turn. Like a lot of others have said, really assess amount of liability for your company. Great thing that they are doing for veterans, but it's a big job. There are two companies near me who do jet refurbishing and rebuilds. Everything done is all in house. Good luck in your decision.
You know Robbie was overwhelmed. He didn't slap the plane once! 😀
Rite ! He was in shock thinking whut have I got myself into ? I’ve done that drinking at night & volunteer to do a job & next day , say wtf was I thinking ? I wasn’t I was drinking…… lol
Yes, you could tell he was a little shocked to say the least. Big project, but he could do it, just alot of time involved.
He may be overwhelmed, but you don’t slap airframes.
As someone mentioned in the comments, the liability risk might be a little more than you'd want to take on. Every hand (business) that touched the aircraft will be sued if she ever crashed. You may want to consult with your insurance carriers to see if they'd underwrite your liability.
I second this comment. People are crazy and they think if you own an airplane you have lots of money and they line up to sue you and anyone else that has ever touched it.
For paint….as an A&P I’ve heard a lot but never that from the paint guys
For paint, thats a stretch.
Utter tosh!
You're going to want to take a hard look at this. There are aircraft paint specialists for a reason. I'm sure once you learned the ins and outs of it you could do it, but this is major. I don't think one could successfully part-time a project like this. Staying tuned.
Two of my favorite channels working together, that would be awesome. When I saw you show up on RebuildRescue's channel a few days ago, I was smiling like a child. I wish you can help with that airplane project.
I was surprised to see this plane on your channel I actually watched him get that running again before I found your channel. It looks like a crazy job. I wouldn't be mad if you didn't do it but I think you're up for the challenge.
The second I saw what your doing with the pickup truck for a family, I hit the subscribe button. it's people like you that make America good. This country sure could use more people like you and Jason right now.
The automotive painting is enjoyable to watch and relatable.
I personally won't watch videos about a plane being painted as its outside my area of interest.
Also, if worried about the quantum of work before starting a job, thats the time to run away screaming.
It'd be super cool if you could paint it. But don't let it stress you out. If it seems like too much, pass on it. I know I would feel very intimidated, haha.
I do this in the USAF for the F16s. You have a big crew and it'll be just fine; you may want to talk with some other aviation painters to figure out what goes into it first. Don't want to sand down a button-head rivet to nothing. You may want to reassess stripping it down to the bare metal.
Just rattle can it. What's the big deal?
I never understood the concept of spending thousands on a paint job that will almost def get messed up at some point.
When I pull into a parking spot with a shopping cart in it, I don't get out and move it, I send it flying with my bumper. If you want to keep your car from being scratched and dented, you'd better park way out in left field, or take the bus.
@@mikeworkman3593 Is that how you care for all the things you own? I wonder what kind of shape your home is in.
@@JT_70 My house is just fine. It outlasted a direct hit by Ian. A car is just a tool like a hammer or a wrench. It has one purpose, to get you back and forth to work or to the store, etc. You can't live in a car, or you have bigger problems.
@@mikeworkman3593 I love pushing carts around with my truck, but I push them back in the little corrals without getting out because I'm not a dick that sends shopping carts flying into other people's vehicles.
@@mikeworkman3593 because when it comes to aviation it's corrosion control not looks, so if it is not painted correctly and the metal is exposed to the elements the strength of the metal is compromised. Even the smallest amount can be cause for concern because the stresses put on an aircraft are a lot more than just a car.
Plane came from the factory in '69 with cold lacquer. The current paint is some kind of polyurethane or modified polyurethane. It can be painted with base coat clear coat if desired. Paint designed to adhere to aluminum usually works best. At current rate, it will be 3-4 yrs before this 401 is ready for paint.
I love all the things you work on, and while I really enjoyed the Golden Nugget build, I'm not really sure what hours on end of hours of sanding followed by more sanding which this project would probably be 90% of would bring to the channel. I'd much rather see Aiden's truck, Dinners truck, Hillbilly's bronco, your Jeep, Paul's hotrod??, and any other cool ideas closer to home than this overstretch of a channel collab. Nothing against Rebuild Rescue, I've been subscribed to his channel for a while now as well, but I'd much rather enjoy my trifecta of Robby, Matt, & Paul and the down to earth family fun you guys have over the Rescue Rebuilds, and Heavy D's of the tuberverse.
Agree totally
Do it!!!!!! As a Vet things like this mean so much for to the community. I have painted many A/C during my years, its a lot of work to make it look nice but the cause will be worth it.
I would make sure that all the corrosion issues have all been addressed and signed-off by an A&P. As I recall there was some serious structural corrosion issues. Because of that there might be some risk of liability to every company that touches it, if it fails in flight and people die.
I agree, However they do an an A&P IA helping work on the plane. I am sure if he saw anything detrimental he would raise the red flag on the project.
Whew! I know where a smaller, faster and flying airplane is that needs paint ;) Clear Prop!
I know you're trying to grow your channel and do great things with it. Your heart is in the right place but I would rather see autobody. Aiden's truck build is one of my favorites and the nugget was great. I think an airplane is going in the wrong direction, even if it is for a good cause.
I hear what you youre saying, but i think it would make an interesting video. especially if it was just a couple episodes. It doesnt have to be the scale of the golden nugget.
It's a massive job compared to the golden nugget it will take months to finish, that's why I'm not that interested in it myself, but good luck to him if he's taking on this challenge
@Rex Pirata I for one love to see colab efforts from YT creators. Especially like this. Ive watches these guys separately for a while and it was a surprise to see them cross paths.
Robby and Layton Auto Body crew...you guys painting the Cessna 401 would be cool, no doubt. But before you commit to stripping, prepping and painting it just make sure you check into all of the technical, FAA and such requirements on dealing with the rivets, methods used, chemicals that can be used, etc AND all of the steps, materials, paint and so on. If it isn't too complex, involved and difficult...go for it, it would be very different and unusual, a unique project and content for your channel. I like cars, trucks, cycles AND airplanes...and a 1969 twin engine turbo Cessna that hauls multiple passengers is cool. ;)
Painting aircraft is so different from automotive! I have seen automotive painters write off aircraft. But the 401 is pretty basic. I’m so keen to see this! Do it Robby!!!
Take your 10 ft pole and carry it in front of you, so you don't get too close. Simple things like paint sagging to the trailing edge changes balance on control surfaces. It's a huge can of worms. Don't wander out of your car lane. Let the aircraft painters do their thing.
aircraft paint is a whole different beast,
aluminum primer needs to etch into the metal, and the finish coat needs to stand up to 300 mph, I wouldn't say painting is painting, cars are cars, and planes are plains.
I’m currently an A&P mechanic I love airplanes and have painted them myself. I read through some of the comments about some peoples concerns and would like to touch on one of them. As for the liability side of things as far as I know the liability falls mainly on the person that returned the airplane to service. Most “professional” aviation paint shops have one person that signs the project off most of the workers do not have licenses. I know you guys would do an amazing job! Thanks
I say a big no. I personally enjoy the automotive work you do. Painting airplane and pieces and shipping off is just egggg. 😂
Props to you Robby for even contemplating such a massive & specialized job you know little about. I wish you and the RLN team all the best whatever your decision.
Props to you- I see what you did there lol
Sounds like you guys need Heavy D and his Crew to colab on this project. Im sure he can haul that plane to Utah and fly it back.
I agree 100 percent
Funnily enough, that's exactly what I thought straight away too. Great minds and all that.
Heavy D has hauled a Toyota Hilux pickup before with his Black Hawk Helicopter. Hauling a plane with it should be no problem.
I was just at his airport and saw him land his his B-105.
Hey Robby! Super excited to see this video. It was super awesome meeting you at the Offroad Expo in Pomona! It was awesome talking about aircraft maintenance and painting with you!
Run!! Don't walk away from this one!
My two favorite channels collaborating on one project. You both are amazing. This is the generosity we need to see EVERYDAY. thank you both so much
I’m a A&P mechanic and a vet. I would love to see you guys paint this plane. Also if you guys need help with it on a mechanical level let me know.
Maybe shoot them an email? Plane looks like they need a little army of professionals to fix it... the sooner it gets done, the sooner they can use it to help people.
Paint it!! I love how the RUclips world is so connected! I watch both channels and never dreamed or imagined they would cross!
Visit a hanger that paints planes aske questions. Planes are very weight sensitive. This will add to your resume for sure. I will definitely be tuned in for this..
This would be awesome to watch. I'm confident they would get the right advisors on board. With research, advisors/mentors, and inspectors it's a ton of work but achievable.
Robbie didn’t look like his happy self in this one. Hope you are doing okay. Love that you have found ways to help less fortunate people. Feels so good.
I'd say.... rather speechless.....
OK, all them volunteers, please do line up and be prepared for a big but interesting and entertaining project..good onya team..Luv the involvement..Cheers.
You would be very wise to pass on this one, you have your shop and work to think about.
This is a worthy adventure and project. Research is a critical aspect of this rebuild. this plane is thoroughly trashed. I would recommend going to a WWII aviation restoration group that brings planes back to life and learn from them the detail work involved. Corrosion from bird crap etc. I hope you get involved only because of the videos you'll make in gaining the knowledge of doing this.... OH... go visit Mike Patey. He's in Utah and one who will gladly school you in this project, not to mention he might participate.
You're a picky painter, which isnt a bad thing, your work turns out Great!!! DONT take this on, those rivets and your precision will drive you CRAZY!!!
This would be a great opportunity for Aiden to a part of. Kind of like a pay it forward such as he’s getting with him and his dads truck! Plus a life long memory!!
I love watching your channel and I followed the airplane series so I was surprised to see you there. It's a great project but it will be way too big in my opinion it will probably last way over 6 months to finish and it's just not the content I my self would be interested in, but if you want to take on the challenge all the best to you.
Another one you could take on and one that would be way more doable is JerryRigEverything's electric HUMMVEE, he's planning on painting it and he's from Utah.
Anyway good luck with whatever you choose!
Do it! I've watched both your channels and I think it's a worthy cause. I agree with the guy below to check out the process - but airplanes get painted all the time and you can do a superb job on it. I'd really like to have you paint 240 Z eventually also.
I heard of an automotive painter making an expensive airplane become worthless because he sanded the rivots. The rivots became questionable to hold the plane together.
Yep, you can’t sand or blend over fastener heads. If you do, you have to replace them.
It would be pretty sweet to have the plane painted, but I agree with other comments below. Painting an aircraft is no small deal. Stripping the paint is a major issue as well. Much of what used to be done with chemical strippers has gone by the wayside due to EPA issues. Painting over the existing paint is a no-go due to the added weight. Consulting with aviation paint firms is a must do and when all is said and done, a new weight and balance will be required after painting. Our unit in Germany used to own the USAREUR paint shop and we painted all the US Army helicopters in Europe. Dieter Kosiel (an escapee from East Germany) ran the paint shop like a well-oiled machine and did superb work. Good luck and I'm sure it will look great.
This is crazy! All my favorite channels are coming together. All we need now is for WhistlenDiesel to come around and take this plane for a "spin" or Vice Grips Garage to start this thing and fly it home!
Derek or Cody getting ahold of this thing would be a travesty of unlimited proportions.
That being said, I’d be here for the shit show lmao
Love those guys
Yeah
Dont forget Heavy D Sparks!
I’d say no on painting the airplane ✈️, it’s a great project but your channel is already loaded with great projects.
Pass on that job Robby. To much work and you have alot on the table to do rn.
ROBBIE, DINNER, HILLBILLY AND CREW, AMAZED I AM!!!
DOIN PROJECTS like this will take you far and wide... y'all will be famous for it...watch out, because success will overtake you!!!
Having been involved with painting Hummers with basically the same kind of rivet situation - don't do it. You'll spend MONTHS stripping it.
Rebuild Rescue, your team is awesome your dedication for the Military and helping them is heart touched. If Robby decides to take this on that will be a show. Go get it.
I've seen airplanes repainted when I was in the Air Force and the biggest difference is that everything was stripped down to bare metal because of weight. They were prepped and painted in a hanger and they used pressure pot spray guns.
Yeah, does it even need a "professional" painter? I always think of a plane as a tool, not something for show. The way it looks now seems fine to me.
Sounds like when I painted Ferrari race cars , every 2-3 weeks razor blade all the paint off & repaint the whole car. Job security! Lol the boss said a paint job was 20lb we can’t have unwanted weight.
@@mikeworkman3593 Yes they need a professional painter that is versed in painting aircraft, cars can't fall out of the sky if you paint them wrong.
I say paint it! But like many others I also say be careful and get a lot of advise and help from others. It would be a great project to learn on, and another great way to lend a hand helping others who help others... Love you guys!
Run away Robby Run.
It's funny how I watch both channels for a long time but both from different worlds and I have donated to the 401 build through go fund me and now I am watching both worlds colliding and I never thought I would see Robbie helping the aviation world. To tell you the truth, Robbie looked overwhelmed and a little nervous about taking on this project and didn't want to disappoint with saying no. Robbie, not a single one of us would be disappointed if you said no, we all understand, but if you do do it, make sure it isn't going to interfere with your own family life and business, if it can be done and you feel confident on doing it then we are behind you as well. Make the right decision and choice for yourself Robbie and family.
Robby: DON'T DO IT ! The only thing that is the same with painting cars is paint.... every thing else is totally different, first : evaluate safety regulations.
Only able to put one thumbs up on this comment! Because Robbie is doing research, and reading comments, I'll say make certain of the regulations. Your staff can do it technically, sure. You might have to augment your staff with someone with an airframe cert.
Robbie, you have a big heart. I would love to see your team tackle this project. I know you would do an excellent job.
I agree with a previous comment to partner with a company that already paints planes. That's the work on the Nugget times 6 at least.
More like the work on the Nugget times 1000.
Had a client some years ago who operated an aviation paint shop. As far as i remember him telling me, aircraft paint differs from automotive paint vastly in that it is formulated to work in extreme temperature variances, remains stretchable (a big plane can "swell/grow" quite a bit when pressurized up high), the weight (less) and coverage (high) also differs quite a bit from automotive paint. Then there is also a lot of prep (back to a green plane) that is very specific to aviation with many regulations. As with every skill, it can be learnt. You just need to figure if the juice is worth the squeeze.
On a sidenote: Many of his customers used aircraft paint on racecars applying only a single coat to shave a few extra pounds off.
No.. Pass on it. This is very different than Auto paint and auto repair. Look how long the golden nugget took and this would be much longer and difficult.
I would like to see you restore that Mustang that Vice Grip Garage just posted.
I agree with Anthony, this may just be a bit much. Appreciate your commitment and your energy. This is a huge endeavor and there can't be a single shortcut, no rip this apart, no ohh this doesn't just fit right.... it needs to be perfect and there needs to be engineering supervision to make sure that it also works what your ideas are.
Really suprised to see people saying not to paint this plane. Me personally I wanna see you paint this just because of all the people saying to pass on it. This plane is going to get used for a really good things. Helping out a lot of people.
I agree with you. I'm not into auto body work at all, but love Robby's channel. It's a great channel and great people. If you're NOT going to watch it because it's a plane then I think you are here for the wrong reasons to begin with.
@Josey Wilds how do we go from talking about painting a plane. To that's probably how you vote. F the consequences. I mean I could be like you and say. Your mom didn't think of the consequences. She should of swallowed but she didn't. Now we have Brite intelligent people like you in this world that can just try and twist and turn anything into something bad. Good job your a real stand up kinda guy. But I won't go their.
Now if you wanna have a conversation about why you and a lot of people think it's a bad idea to help this guy out and paint a plane that's going to end up running rescue missions, and fly U.S. veterans to different places for different reasons and help just about any foundation out with transporting what ever they need to help them with their cause. I would be happy to hear it.
As I see it if it is going to help out any veterans from the USA I would say that's something they deserve for what they have sacrificed to keep the USA what it is today. And as far as robby painting a plane. Everyone is acting like it going to destroy everything he has. I think just the opposite. That plane is big yes but is just like painting a vehicle. Same steps just a lot bigger of a project.
And if everyone's problem is that it's a plane not a car or truck or jeep it not a vehicle.
Just remember that a lot of your performance parts that go on any vehicle on the road. Where more than likely an evolved part that a pilot or aircraft mechanic came up with. A lot of performance parts are things that veterans came up with. In WWII Pilots and their mechanics where always doing thing to the planes to make them faster and faster. A key to a dog fight was being fast and a good shot. When they came home from the war. They didn't stop messing with motors and start serving burgers. They started making street race cars. That's how the mustang got so popular. Just about every house wife got one while their husband was fighting. When the men came home. They started making performance parts for them. So planes and cars are very similar.
I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's for a good cause. And if anything it's going to get robby a lot more followers for sure. And we will be closer to having that charger giveaway.
But hay if I win it I will pick you up and take you for a ride my friend. Lol
Only if they pay for paint and materials, and haul it back to Utah for you! You can't do it for free, aviation paint is spendy, and hauling it back to Utah is expensive! You and the whole crew are the best!! Keep up the good work!
You don't have the time, experience or manpower. You also need an a&p license. You can very easily destroy a plane without the training. Pass.
I wouldn’t take this job on. I’ve had to turn down jobs before that I really really wanted to do like this, and it’s hard cause you wanna help, but sometimes it’s the best decision for everyone
No . While it is a worthy cause you don’t have the crew to do this in addition to the time. Also. If you think viewers complained about sanding on the Golden Nugget.... Donate, thank them for the offer and step quickly away.
@Robby Layton pass on painting the plane! A plane is a very different animal, and involves way to much risk. It would also be a time hog!
Much see you stick to trucks and SUVs and such!
Looking forward to seeing Dinner's Chevy Truck build, and Hillbilly's Ford Bronco II build!
Enjoy watching your videos!
-Rob in Tennessee
The BIG question is what about your paint booth is it big enough or would you have to find a bigger paint booth somewhere
@T.J. Kong that's what I meant
As much as I'd love to see Robby & the crew take this on & I've no clue what's involved, it does sound like too risky a project to take on given the risks. After all, if something goes bad with an aircraft, you can't just pull over. That's why there's such stringent laws & maintenance schedules with any aircraft. I'll support you no matter what though & good on you for even considering such a task.
as interesting as this would be, i don't think you should do it. A massive undertaking and something you'd be working on for ages at the expense of the many smaller projects you undertake (our attention spans aren't good enough for a plane with thousands of hours doing the same task). You have many smaller projects to keep us interested, and maybe another collab that won't be such a massive massive project will come along.
When he mentioned Angel flights, it made me tear up. Your learning curve is going to be steep, but you can do it, go for it. Thumbs up.
You need to paint the plane. It will look good on your resume, in case the boss ever fires you. 😂
We has a beautiful Piper Cheyenne III, The main colors were Tan lower, bright white upper & a Maroon belt stripe that got wider on the T tail. Super classy looking for sure! Check out the business class jets & Turboprop planes for cool ideas.
I would pass on that job
Why would he pass? lol if he can get the job done correct being aircraft is different, then he could open his career up to many more option of income.
💯BIG TIME PASS.!! He would have to hire a five to six man crew. Would disrupt his regular business and RUclips channel🤔🤔
From the UK, Robby, even if you did paint it I doubt it will ever get put back together, just look at their yard, lots of unfinished projects. May£vice, walk away and do one of the old cars in your yard, this would cost a lots of Dollars in materials alone.
Pass, that seems like a deeeeeeep hole.
I painted aircraft in the Navy even though I was an AT. The aircraft goes to a booth and gets a chemical strip. Then clean, alodine, prime and paint. We used two part poly in the old days then had to use epoxy later. If I had to do any sanding those rivets suck. They take a long time to clean around them. That plane is much smaller than what I painted. Different S3 and H3 and H60 aircraft. Now they are all camo paint which is way easier to apply. If you have not done that before then it is a pretty big job.
No don't paint it you have a jeep to build
I helped refinish planes in the late 70's and 80' we used epoxy based paints. And to strip paint and prep for primer we used zebco acid scrubed with mutable types of steel wool and scoch gaurd pads. The acid ech and alidin surfaces. Then prim and paint. It's alot of work a very time consuming. Good luck best of wishes.
As many said, definitely outside the area of interest for most, I don’t think you’d bring in the views and would be too much of a stretch for the little crew. I’d say pass on it
Robbie, I am so proud to know that you and your team have a good heart and are willing to help with a good cause. I hope you do paint this plane and I cant wait to see what it brings along the way. I hope to get a chance to come see you someday and keep up the good work brother!
If you thought sanding and Prepping the Nugget was a Chore, wait until you have Airplane to deal with, the perfect Job for Hillbilly to Evolve as a Painter
Robby, I’ve read quite a few of the comments here and there are many more of the “be careful”, “don’t do it”, than the “go for its”. A man has to know his limitations.
Don't do it man. Rebuild rescue's channel is so scammy. I don't trust Jason or anyone over there with their fake drama and the lies. Just walk away.
Surround yourself with experienced people. Golden opportunity to grow your business. Good luck. You got this.
No. Stay away from planes.
Go for it Robbie but your going to need some more help than just your crew and some Tech advice on Aircraft. Maybe bring in a retired aircraft painter or engineer. 😀
I am always excited to see you have a new video posted. Until today : / this Rebuild Rescue guy is a scam artist. I started watching the first video of this plane to see if he could get it started. Then he started asking for donations, and that's cool he wants to make it a plane that flies people that need flights. He then magically found a big boat that he started asking for the viewer's help to donate money to help fix it up. I don't get a good feeling from this guy and everything revolving around this plane he got for free. Just like I stopped following his channel I'm not going to watch this video.
If you do decide to take on the 401 you should consider bringing in specialists in painting aircraft to help with it. I think without aircraft specific knowledge the risk would be too high to do the painting yourself. As others have said, things like weight and balance are critical to an aircraft. Other things like air pressure and temperature would also affect the paint over the lifetime of the aircraft. Paint on an aircraft will be subjected to things paint on a car isn't, so definitely find a specialist if you do commit to doing it.
The "Golden Eagle"??? I agree with Mike - there are a LOT rules and regs involved with airplanes. And don't forget the weight! It would be awesome to watch, though.
Go for it Robby you and your guys have ability to do it,it's like the Golden Nugget from a wreck to a beautiful piece of machinery
@UCcNs34Mi4ntXKcjyAjRyd6g Hi Robby & Family
I am here in Australia enjoying your shows and what you do for other is fantastic keep up the great work
Like you give to others so pass on my give to anyone
Cheers from Down Under
I understand wanting to help... That plane is a huge job.. Like you said the rivets have to be completely clean...
Count the rivets...
No I don't think you should... It took a year for the Golden Nugget..
Go for it! You need this project - after the phenomenal Golden Nugget project.
i was gonna make a comment on stuff but most people already covered that, but my grandfather was an aircraft engineer from the late 30's - 80's and his biggest complaint was the painters and paint weight, paint messing with airflow, paint making stuff stick, paint messing up sensors, paint making doors and panels not close, and this was on new plane builds, not a repaint. also FAA is gonna inspect that aircraft. On a plane repaint a stripper solvent is better than sanding due to changes in metal will affect airflow and rivets.
With the skills of your crew and the help from your community, combined with Jason and his crew and community I think it is a doable project. I would love to see it. It looks like a massive project, but I think that you can do it.