Vegeta’s life is so metaphorically relatable to what many of us go through. I work hard, struggle, experience heartbreak and defeat to achieve our goals yet we sometimes stand by and watch as others get things handed to them. If there’s one thing I take from Vegeta’s story is that life isn’t always fair and everyone’s path is different.
This is what annoys me about super. This is how hard vegeta had to struggle to become a super Saiyan and now all the universe 6 Saiyan’s can just do it because of a sensation in their back
I always try to reason that they were probably overdue for the transformation since their universe 6 is parallel to universe 7 and being warriors themselves, they were already pretty strong similarly to the universe 7 Saiyans at the time.
The most ironic thing about this is that in that moment, he discovered the true secret to ultimate power (i.e. to let go of his obsession and stop caring so much about being better than Goku), but the moment he achieved the transformation, the lesson was completely lost on him.
Imo this only happened bc he was convinced becoming a Super Saiyan meant he was literally invincible. It’s only after he gets humiliated by 18 that the lesson is lost on him.
u r wrong, its not that he stopped caring in the healthy sense. Because of his pain and rage he has gone in the completely opposite direction, him letting go is not out of acceptance, but pure despair and pain. (in this scene)
Vegeta is the most motivational character in dbz and truly accepted life over meager desires, from proud, arrogant prince to a role model, even in dbgt his character shines, though i hate dbgt
Almost makes me tear up watching this. I love Z’s deep and intricate backstories and explanations for things fit into the episodes. This story by Vegeta truly captures what it meant to be a Super Saiyan, maybe even more than what it took for Goku.
Funny thing is, this scene wasn't actually in the manga. Vegeta just has Super Saiyan now from offscreen, and there's not an explanation given how he got it. This recount is filler, but it's an example of extremely solid, character defining filler that should have been in the original story.
I loves how Vegeta describes the storm as: *“An outward manifestation of the storm - raging inside me!”* DBZ WAS SO GREAT MAN And the way he yells out, *“Ka- Koraaat!”*
It is purely poetic how Vegeta, the one who works the hardest in achieving greater strength, gives up after years of training not caring about anything anymore. Yet, it is when he gives up all he has invested in himself that he achieves Super Saiyan.
Watching this as an adult just hits more cause I sometimes you just have to let things go and get your mind off from it. Then suddenly you achieve set goal cause your mind wasn’t so clouded or distracted, stopping you to win. As kids we were Goku. Growing up, you become more like Vegeta.
Some people have to be pushed by external factors to reach their full potential. Goku was too nice and his external factor was losing a friend. For Vegeta he literally got mad at himself.
@1:08 … what he says here resonates with me. Growing up, watching people achieve things you’ve wanted to achieve for yourself but always falling short.. yes it’s maddening. I understand vegeta here.
Sorry but that is not true. If you want something you need to think 400x to get 400x solutions and choose the best one. Then to make the best solution work you will have to make 400x the effort you think it will take.
I don't think anyone can endure 500 Times gravity,I mean if Goku went to train at 500 times gravity he would struggle at first cause his body isn't adapted to such gravity,ofc that is if he wasn't training more than 100G as how he did in Namek Saga
*In Vegeta's voice* One night I was extremely hungry, the hunger was maddening!!!!! I then walked downstairs, it took everything I had and more, and then I saw the sandwich in the refrigerator, I welcomed it, it was was like the perfect manifestation of my burning hunger! I then ate the sandwich as if my very survival depended on it and it was delicious. Yes....That is how it happened. Now tell me does a machine like you ever experience hunger?
This can be a metaphor for whatever in life. You try to achieve something for years and by letting it go you actually achieve it. I sometimes come back to this video to feel with Vegeta.
This is one of the best scenes of the arc. Vegeta's own rage at himself is what propelled him forward, further contrasting him with Goku's righteous fury over Krillin dying.
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy well I mean, Cabba earned it tho, kinda. Kale was already sorta a super saiyan, she was a LSSJ, or I guess super saiyan berserker, even though she literally became broly with tits. Caulifla can go fuck herself
A lot of ppl miss the spiritual aspect of DBZ. Seems to me the last thing Vegeta had to do wasn’t more training under more gravity but to completely detach from worldly things for a moment. He didn’t care about winning, being better than anyone, nothing at all…it was like the last latch had finally been broken for all that stored potential to unleash…not him crying his way to super Saiyan how most comments make it seem. Vegeta has a rough and very relatable story in terms of being the best version of yourself or being who you think you are destined to be.
Goku had to experience the loss of someone precious to him. Vegeta hadn't cared about anyone else but himself at the time. I think what he lost was himself. In that moment, he lost his sense of purpose; he was done trying to even matter. Watching as a kid, I didn't get scenes like this at all, but as an adult, I really want to get into these characters' heads and figure out what drives them. It makes these stories much more emotional.
The way that vegita tells this story makes it seem like hes making it all up. Like he probably went super saiyan by accident on the toilet but thought that was too embarrassing.
"I decided to continue my training in the solitude of space, where I would be unhindered by the distractions of the Earth." Like raising a child. Vegeta, father of the year.
Honestly, I think the best way they should have described the power of a super saiyan is the feeling and force of tremendous power that hits you. The whole tingle thing is just plain stupid.
@@MrOuran369 the reason I hate the back tangle situation is because the Super Saiyan transformation is a lot like the Sharingan in which in able to awaken it and push it further, strong emotions need to be felt most likely grief,hatred, or Rage. So for these two nobody girls to just pull it off with no difficulty really and no training made me angry.
@@kameronmiller2226 I didn't care much about the tingle in the back, I used to be pretty okay with it. But now that you said it, yeah. Fuck the tingle. I think the U6 saiyans were more evolved and grew with more S cells like Gohan, Goten, and Trunks have. But the super saiyan form was supposed to be the gateway to all other forms, it's supposed to be hard to achieve, but when you achieve it, it goes into refinement until you get all the other forms.
RIP Akira Toriyama I wish I could say thank you for creating Vegeta. scenes like this gradually made me realize no matter what demons you're facing, you must learn to face them and use them as motivation to become better.
I don't understand why super can't be written with this intensity. The fights and animation are great but the passion and energy in the characters have dropped significantly.
Big facts man when I first seen this as a kid this scene was so emotional to me because you really see the pain he went through to turn to a super saiyan
Out of all saiyans who went super, Vegeta's was the most unique one. the only person he lost during the transformation is himself while others had to watch their friends die. and it was the most dramatic as well I get goosebumps whenever I watch this scene.
“I decided to continue my training in the solitude of space, where I would be unhindered by the distractions of the Earth”. So basically he’s saying he was starting to spend more time hooking up with Bulma than actually training.
I literally cried when he said "I didn't care anymore... I didn't care about being better than Kakarot, I didn't care about being a super sayan, I didn't care if I LIVED, I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING!!!... BWAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!" Most emotionally inspiring anime moment in history!
This is what I love about the original ssj transformations, they required each sayian to grow some part of themselves. For goku it was his peaceful nature, sure he'd been pissed before but in my favorite rendition of the scene his eyes flash green and he says "I *will* make you suffer!" A darker, more calculated outlook he continued to utilize through the rest of Z when the situation was dire. For vegeta it was his pride, this was the first time he ever set it aside and it paved the way for him to have one of my favorite arcs capping off with his sacrifice, and later speech to goku in the buu saga. For trunks it was losing his mentor, brother figure and possibly only friend, and taking up a mantle that he was absolutely not ready for, but had to because there was no one else who could, and he succeeded. For gohan it was a trial by fire to become a physically and emotionally self sufficient person ... about 9 years too early. The transformation used to be a character growth, not just a power boost, or worse still a "tingle" Also yes, I am aware of how this video is.
And Vegeta said the one thing in the video that he never said before: he didn't care about beating Goku, becoming a Super or even bothering to move on. His rage alone is what made him a Super Saiyan. From what I heard, Super Saiyan is a form based off of rage and rage alone.
Vegeta’s motivation to surpass his rival is so relatable in real life. A lot of us have that instinct to want to be better than someone. Even if Vegeta stayed a true villain instead of turning anti hero many fans would want to see him succeed because we all have a little bit of the saiyan prince in all of us.
Speak for yourself anyone who wants to be better than a next person is working from their ego and insecurity just like vegeta and people wonder why they aren't happy or satisfied.... The only person your supposed to compete with IS YOURSELF to be better than you was yesterday and not caring about where anyone else. Focus on your lane in the race and the funny/sad thing is people who try to compete with others don't even realise it's a one way competition as that other person your so fixated on doesn't even view you in the same way.... Either because they are a high calibre person who competes with themselves OR they are looking at people they perceive to be at a higher level than them which they don't class you as.. Don't watch anybody and just work on yourself if you want to be truly happy and successful
@@kingkyle.0.0.7You don’t know what’s possible until you see someone do it. Some people can’t find it in themselves and use someone they look up to or someone that’s successful as a reference or a crutch to push beyond what they currently are. The point of training or conditioning at all is to be better than what you are then. Even if that means trying to beat someone, doesn’t mean it stays that way. Call it what you want, insecure, weak minded, it really isn’t a bad mindset. It just means you’ll never stop wanting to be better. Vegeta tells his own son while training with him after he assumes he’s surpassed goku to not let anyone be stronger than him and to use that motivation to help beat the androids at HIS home. You could stay in your lane and work on your own, but when the time comes you can be unprepared because what others have in store that you DIDN’T know about. That’s why sports and COMPETITIVE NATURE is a thing. To push and become better than others because ultimately you become better than yourself the day before. It would be different if one saw someone better than them and just WISHING and WHINING about being better. THATS insecurity, not what you described before. If you’re willing to work to not only get to where someone is but PAST that, you’re solid. Happiness comes from progress, and anyone comparing themselves to someone else or not is capable of looking back and seeing the difference they made. Whatever you have to do, do it. And while you’re doing it, don’t forget where you started.
“The power comes from a need, not a desire”. “I didn’t care anymore, I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan, I didn’t care if I LIVED”. And that was the need. Vegeta needed to transform into a Super Saiyan because he needed a reason to live.
Goku's need was his friends dying, and needing to protect his son, needing enough power to protect frieza Gohan's need was the need for power to protect those who he couldn't protect before Trunks' need was the need for power to avenge Gohan and protect himself from the androids Vegeta's need was the need to have a reason to live and to have enough power to not die
Nevermind the fighting or power levels, Vegeta's inner struggle and self reflection was easily the best part of Dragon Ball Z, as well as Gohan's desire not to let down his friends. Unfortunately, no one in Dragon Ball Super is really struggling to reach any sort of personal goal. Maybe if Ultra Instinct was mentioned at the start of the series, and classified as a state almost impossible to achieve, the show would have been more interesting.
King 425 goten and trunks? No, not one bit. It was all that nonsense from super that ruined the meaning of a super saiyan First super saiyan god Then super saiyan god super saiyan Then super saiyan god super saiyan rose Then super saiyan rage Then super saiyan berserk Then super saiyan god super saiyan évolution Then ultra instinct Then mastered ultra instinct. They put so many hair dye changes with stupidly HUGE power scales, with each new colour being astronomically stronger than the previous, that the original super saiyan stopped being a big deal. Now it's EXPECTED for saiyans to break that. In the past, it was a miracle. That's what you call beating a dead horse
@@omnimonafroamerikaner7245 I’m just saying when they were kids..remember Trunks turning super saiyan in the training chamber with Vegeta?? And Goten training with Gohan and transforming?? I get your point but I’m saying those 2 shattered the mold of becoming the legendary super saiyan…Goku and Vegeta made it awsome..Trunks and Goten made it light work
@@Syte425 because trunks and goten were conceive after their father become super sayian That's why it was difficult for gohan goku vegeta And easy for trunks and goten
Going super sayain means you where able to change your self meaning u have character development dragon ball super fucked that up now its just oh your over 10000 power level u can go super sayain or here plot armor u need it back then u had to learn life lessons to go super sayain. goku fighting with anger to defeat true evil (freeza) which goku has never done before thats why he told gohan to leave before he lose himself bc he never fought with anger and vegeta being ok with being second place to someone who he thought he was supposed to be better than bc he his the prince he never believed someone could be stronger than him until that day which made him go super sayain by saying its ok to be second place just try to be the best u can be just like goku. And gohan going super sayain was to show that hes not a little kids anymore and gohan going super sayain 2 was to prove when to use your powers its ok to use anger and hate towards your enemies if that protecting your friends and family. Trunks showing that u need to believe in yourself when your all alone gohan was his last friend the last one he could believe in and look up to now hes gone and its him its time to be a man and train harder. Then super sayain kinda lost its meaning after that
@@sonicooler9468 I do believe that it's a good idea to have super saiyan have a base power level limit because that's a lot of energy surging into your body and if you are too weak you probably shouldn't be biologically capable of doing it. That said the lack of emotion and modern triggers just giving me enough rage to go super Saiyan
I’m kind of annoyed of how we went from this story of how Vegeta became a super saiyan then to how caulifla describes the tingly feeling in her back then instantly becomes a super saiyan
They could have just have the time limit for preparing for the tournament be longer then have them train with chompa and vados since chompa would surely want to have his own Saiyans to out do his brother which would perfectly explain it since training with Gods would make it a more believable jump in power
like goten and trunks? They literally went super saiyan 3 fused by watching goku do it once LOL. U6 saiyans were over trained for super saiyan 1. Please stop.
Over trained for ssj1? We only saw them train once and they go ssj before they really started training, and I don't like gotenks either, I thought that was stupid as well, but being able to go ssj2 because of a tingly feeling in their back is just stupid, I don't get why they didn't have them at least earn it through anger or something like how Cabba did, just feels lazy
@@thesilvershining he seems to be the type that wants to be alone. I did read the creator said Vegeta had a one night stand with bulma because was feeling vulnerable and depressed over not being at Goku’s level. Bulma found him in that state and I think she mistook it to be loneness since she too was depressed being alone with no one and they found comfort with each other for one night But I don’t believe one night, I don’t see bulma stopping at one lol
@@whitedragoness23 My headcanon is that Bulma truly fell for him 100% by the time that night happened, which is why Future Bulma still seems sad that Vegeta didn’t love her in return. So yeah, she wanted more than a one night stand but Vegeta was angry that it happened, mostly angry at himself for letting himself be vulnerable (aka weak) with her and purposefully pushed her away afterwards so she wouldn’t approach him again. And then pushed her and his unborn child even further away once ge became a super saiyan. He convinced himself that was all he wanted/needed and Bulma was just a one-time mistake. Despite all this you can see she still cares for him and asks more than once if Vegeta is alright and worries about him during the android and cell sagas. If it weren’t for Trunks coming back to the past and actively trying to get Vegeta to open his heart again I doubt he and Bulma would have ended up a couple. BUT the fact of the matter is this man so rarely lets himself be emotionally vulnerable, so for her to succeed in getting him to let his guard down at all really is a huge deal. To me it shows that he developed trust and admiration for her and subconsciously desired her company whether he would admit it or not. Even if he pushed her away afterwards, it still happened, and he can’t deny that. He just had to come to terms with the fact he was already changing and his old warrior lifestyle of violence and isolation would never truly fulfill him again.
@@thesilvershining I think bulma DID have very strong feelings for vegeta but after she had a child she felt like she had a special link with him because of their child. Not only that but they had a night together so an intimate moment would definitely make bulma prefer vegeta over yamcha because he went that far with her. I don’t dispute the fact he would of seen it as a weakness. And he Viewed family life with her as a weakness. And Yes bulma did show concern but I think she knew vegeta wasn’t the type to come running back to her so she was ok if he did or didn’t ( she’s a strong woman who can handle saiyan blood as vegeta once said). I think future bulma did wonder what if vegeta had lived and if he did what could of been and she got excited after she heard from trunks how positive vegeta took to him so she didn’t want to miss that one chance that she never had. Yes i do think she did love him after having his child. But was strong enough to keep going and live her life. I too thought future trunks had a impact on vegeta and really pushed him to change and he kinda did. In another interview the creator stated after vegeta legitimately fell in love with bulma after getting together with her he started a strong relationship with trunks because bulma pushes him to spend time with his son. Vegeta likes strong women so he doesn’t fight her on this. It’s been indicated in outside sources but I can’t find a legit from the author that bulma has a active *ahem* adult $ex life. Plus she keeps her self young, she keeps looking good. and unlike chi chi she works on her marriage and keeps vegeta rope in the relationship. In the English translation supposedly toriyama said bulma is the dominant one in the relationship and in control. Here’s a bonus: in the manga there’s a scene where vegeta returns with future trunks and bulm runs and hugs vegeta and he pushes her away in embrassement. He then sees her crying as she loved him and worried about him that he manages to pat her on the head (wtf?!) to show her affection back
@@thesilvershining I thought about after I rely and I think I misunderstood what you meant. So yes I have to agree she fell in love with vegeta during the one night stand. I say one night because that’s what the manga said.it’s difficult to pin point when it happened for bulma due to her being so focused with baby trunks.
I decided to rewatch this scene because of DBS: Broly. I noticed how much more impactful his descent into Super Saiyan was than most transformations in the series and started to think about why. I came to realize that the core of Super Saiyan wasn't just rage. What makes Super Saiyan meaningful is grief. At the end of the Namek saga, in History of Trunks, Broly, and even the alternate scenario from DBZ Budoukai all have something more to it than just rage. Broly helped make this especially clear thanks to the Wrathful form. Rage is simply a by-product of Super Saiyan. The trigger behind each of these transformations was grief. Goku transformed due to the permanent loss of Krillin, Trunks lost his mentor, Broly believed he killed his father, and Vegeta grieves Nappa because he sees that Nappa could never go on after Goku brutalized him. But then I thought of this scene and wanted to go back and analyze it in that context. What is Vegeta grieving in this flashback? His entire world. Not his literal entire world, but his entire worldview, his value as a person. Vegeta has been taught that his value lies in his breeding and therefore his strength since he was a child. He was a prodigy among prodigies, and that made him better than everyone else. He's a true Saiyan warrior, the pinnacle of his people, and he should always be proud. Then, Planet Vegeta is destroyed and Vegeta experiences something new. In the Freeza Force, Vegeta is tied for ninth place with fucking Cui. Freeza, Zarbon, and Dodoria treat him like a joke, and Vegeta can't even argue back lest they put him in his place. Vegeta spent 17 years and the better part of his childhood in this environment. He went from being the best to being nothing. So, Vegeta doubled down. He started scheming to beat Freeza and secure his place at the top. Then comes this kid, Raditz's weaker little brother, and he beats Vegeta strength-to-strength somehow. To Vegeta, it confirms everything Freeza ever said about him, and Vegeta can't accept that. So he goes even harder. He'll go right into an active warzone even without his tail just for a chance to get the Dragon Balls and give himself the edge he needs to beat Freeza. Of course, things don't go to plan, and even after all of his RNG manipulation, Vegeta is still powerless against Freeza. In the same spot he's been in all his life, Vegeta cries for the first time in his life, because he's so close yet still so far. Then, Goku becomes a Super Saiyan and seemingly kills Freeza. After that, Trunks shows up, turns Super Saiyan, and actually kills Freeza. Now Vegeta's being outclassed by some kid, too. So, he pushes himself, he keeps going because he can't accept that he doesn't have what it takes. He can't accept that Freeza was right about him. He works himself to the bone, putting himself through a level of training that at this point is basically just torture and isolates himself from positive influences like Bulma. When the meteor shower comes, he's half-broken, trying desperately to hold on, clinging to his lifeline in the ship. But he doesn't have what it takes. His desperation is what shot him in the foot, and that sends Vegeta spiraling. He's on the recieving end of what the Saiyan upper class has put the Saiyan peasantry through for years. Goku just has something he doesn't. Vegeta's at his wall. And he breaks. He stops trying to surpass Kakarot, he admits that he's not who he thought he was, that Freeza's taunts were true. He accepts death because his life the way he's lived it is over. He will never be the best. But that grief sets off something in Vegeta, the true source of his strength. Back in the Namek saga, Freeza laughed that Vegeta could never be a Super Saiyan, he's a pathetic conniving blueblood who thinks he deserves the universe, which held him back from being a Super Saiyan. This moment is Vegeta's first step into moving on from that, and the power that was waiting for this moment breaks out. Vegeta is able to become a Super Saiyan because he lets go. Of course, the rush of power causes him to regress, but it's Vegeta's first step to overcoming his Saiyan pride. It's a perfect part of his character arc, and it's probably the best anime-original content in Dragon Ball.
I hate to be that guy who mentions the thing everyone already knows, but that's why the tingly back explaination is so bad. Saiyans have so much potential for good character arcs so it's really sad to see them ruining all of these new cool Saiyan characters. Imagine how cool it could be if instead of Cabba just getting a death threat from Vegeta, his Super Saiyan trigger would be Frost who would betray them and maybe even kill someone that is close to him like that old man who sent him to recruit Caulifla, they would need to show a good amount of scenes with that old man so the watchers would understand their bond, but it would be so much better than what we got.
Goku is pure. Majority of people are not pure. Everyone has little of wrong mindset, anger, arrogance, ego, jealousy. That's why vegeta represent majority.
'It seemed like the only thing holding my body together was my one desire: To be better...than Kakarot.' In many ways, with his various struggles of identity, crisis of faith and his quest for greatness in the face of regularly being threatened with a life of mediocrity, Vegeta is the everyman of the story, an audience surrogate. He's all of us when we come up against our seemingly insurmountable goal. And choose to achieve it no matter what.
Imagine working hard for years, almost give up on living, and finally you achieved super sayian....but then some kids came alone and become super sayian after feeling something in their back
Like half of the tournament of power competitors act like they've never worked out or fought a day in their life but they're still stronger than Namek/Android saga characters
@@jonseon5952 Well we never saw them train, if any from the other universes was the main character and saw goku, vegeta we would also wonder how they became strong "Form the strongest fighters in your universes in this tournament" the show literally says this
@@jonseon5952 Universe 7 had the second lowest power level in the whole multiverse. The androids were the most powerful beings in universe 7 because everyone in the universe were weak at the time
Going super sayain means you where able to change your self meaning u have character development goku fighting with anger to defeat true evil (frezza) which goku has never done before thats why he told gohan to leave before he lose himself bc he never fought with anger and vegeta being ok with being second place to someone who he thought he was supposed to be better than bc he his the prince he never believed someone could be stronger than him until that day which made him go super sayain by saying its ok to be second place just try to be the best u can be just like goku. And gohan going super sayain was to show that hes not a little kid anymore and gohan going super sayain 2 was to prove when to use your powers its ok to use anger and hate towards your enemies if that protecting your friends and family. Trunks showing that u need to believe in yourself when your all alone gohan was his last friend the last one he could believe in and look up to now hes gone and its him its time to be a man and train harder. Then super sayain kinda lost its meaning after that
@@sonicooler9468 It was so beautiful. I think its an analogy to manhood and self actualisation. Dbz lost its meaning starting from the buu arc, unfortunately.
“My motivation was different than Kakarot’s , my motivation was to be the best, to the greatest saiyan alive as I always had been!” Gives me chills ever time.
Akira toriyama really did change the world he inspired so many great authors and influenced anime and manga he’s basically the Stan Lee of Japan without him we wouldn’t have all these amazing series as Naruto or one piece akira started it all he was a legendary story teller my fav works from him are not only dragon ball but also he’s other works like the manga dr slump the dragon quest games and two chrono games dragon quest is a very popular series same as chrono trigger and chrono cross without akira toriyama I doubt those series would be as popular and would be very different he had a very unique style of drawing he’s characters and it was like he made them come to life made the audience feel really connected to he’s characters he will be missed but he’s creation he’s works will live on forever in the form of media games and collections rest in peace the goat the legend Akira Toriyama 😭
Vegeta and Trunks had the best transformations. Vegeta was fighting for his life against nature, and he won. He pushed himself to near death in his training, and has earned every bit of power.
@@mcbdllc136 Humans are more connected with their emotions and aren’t as stoic or emotionally stunted as Saiyans. The hybrids have Saiyan power with human emotions to unlock their true power way easier.
This is how life is. You want something so bad for so long. And just as you are giving up on that dream, life gives it to you. This is what I like about Dragon Ball; it is simple, but full of lessons from even our daily life.
Vegeta is THE quintessential anti-hero. The proof is right here in this scene. Vegeta shows to whoop the enemy's ass and all of the heros are shaking and worried LOL I love DBZ man
I like how Vegeta is telling this story mid fight and everybody is just standing around listening
He has to tell somebody 😂
But it was so smooth that they had to listen to him.
And lowkey scared
I can’t believe he only got it off screen in the manga. Such a waste
I think they're being nice by doing that. Vegeta wanted to vent to somebody anyway, and the Z fighters were just there.
Vegeta's greatest power is telling stories of how great he is lol.
Vegeta Exposition.
John Wilson imagine him telling stories of him and bulmas naughty time
LMFAO
Fuk lmao read that with his English voice actor too LMAO
Hahaha I re edited because last time my boss was looking at me so kinda had to rush it
Vegeta’s life is so metaphorically relatable to what many of us go through. I work hard, struggle, experience heartbreak and defeat to achieve our goals yet we sometimes stand by and watch as others get things handed to them. If there’s one thing I take from Vegeta’s story is that life isn’t always fair and everyone’s path is different.
Yo that’s deep nice take
That’s why so many gravitate towards his character
It shows Vegeta has more grit than Goku!
Voilà: goku is handed everything 😅
@@Paulovrish7334 not handed but things obviously come more natural to Goku.
I like how the key to him unlocking his power is to stop feeling sorry for himself and instead accept the situation. That’s pretty deep
No
@@xnortheast1106 imagine having anime as your pfp XD furry fuck
Nah, thats pure rage
It is. Anime, storytelling, has a lot of psychological premise.
It is very profound if you dare look.
I think it was more about letting go of emotion and not letting it rule over you
"Even the simplest moves..."
*Footage of consecutive backflipping*
Kylianos3 Right 😂
😂
I mean, he can FLY
Simple for him, not for you lol
Backflip is easy. But the gravity isn't
This is what annoys me about super. This is how hard vegeta had to struggle to become a super Saiyan and now all the universe 6 Saiyan’s can just do it because of a sensation in their back
They completely neutered transformations and Vegeta's character too.
Brad McDonald what about goten and trunks?
Childish Hipster goten and trunks dont get passes either but its universe 6 that broke the straw on the camels back
I always try to reason that they were probably overdue for the transformation since their universe 6 is parallel to universe 7 and being warriors themselves, they were already pretty strong similarly to the universe 7 Saiyans at the time.
That annoys you about Super? Don't you mean the Buu saga? Goten and Trunks are literally worse.
This scene is so powerful. When you detach and let go, you get what you want.
Bingo
How
Facts... Not sure if its what the writers intended but its powerful nonetheless
I don't have anything I want and I gave up 20 years ago.
@@gorth1314No you haven't. If you had truly given up, you wouldn't say you want it.
The most ironic thing about this is that in that moment, he discovered the true secret to ultimate power (i.e. to let go of his obsession and stop caring so much about being better than Goku), but the moment he achieved the transformation, the lesson was completely lost on him.
At least he finally learned it by the end of the buu saga.
lol
Imo this only happened bc he was convinced becoming a Super Saiyan meant he was literally invincible. It’s only after he gets humiliated by 18 that the lesson is lost on him.
u r wrong, its not that he stopped caring in the healthy sense. Because of his pain and rage he has gone in the completely opposite direction, him letting go is not out of acceptance, but pure despair and pain. (in this scene)
Vegeta, the prince of all 5 people.
Brady Mc "Three and a ha- SHUT UP!"
+zg234 no
+danny fonseca somebody obviously doesnt get the reference
There's 6
danny fonseca now there is yes, idk if you've noticed, but in most, maybe all dbz videos, people quote dbz abridged lines to sub in.
His hair withstood 450Gs.
ARMASPR and so did he
ARMASPR his hair is stronger than he his
He used heads shoulders
ARMASPR haha indeed fact
A Saiyan’s hair is stronger than the Saiyan themself.
2:47 HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID THE LINE🤯🤯🤯🤯
That was so emotional, I can feel Vegeta's motivation coming inside of me
@@DaRippa58Stop-
@@DaRippa58 LOL
@@DaRippa58🫃
NO
NO MORE
THATS IT
I DONT CARE
Vegeta really took "Everyone is a glow stick. Sometimes we need to break to shine" to the next level.
This scene was so relatable. When you try so hard to achieve something but it’s frustrating because it feels like you’re not getting any results.
And then it happens you see the results just when your bout to give up . Law of attraction of the sub consciousness mind
Especially when there is that someone that achieves said thing and makes it look so easy
Exactly. As Vegeta said, it's infuriating.
@@ReallyPhilly215 ??
@@ReallyPhilly215 sure
Imagine being so angry that you don't care about anything.
RatchetXJ0 games
i think your rage broke vegeta. vegeta? vegeta? vegeta?
gon freecs sends his regards
Lol that's basically me
Imagine being so angry you stab yourself
How to become a Super Saiyan according to Vegeta: Try, fail, lose all hope, become suicidal.
How to become a Super Saiyan nowadays: Idk just focus on that tingling sensation in the back of your neck I guess
This hits different when you're older.
How to become a super sayian:
1.Push ups
2.Sit ups
3.& plenty of juice
And yelling...lots and LOTS of yelling...
Xx_MLG_G4M3R_xX I wanna become a super saiyan. I wanna , I wanna...
Drexon I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA
And besides, my heart is pure. Pure...unadulterated...badass
Alfa&Omega 00000 I Heard that Triclops!
Hate him or love him. You got to give Vegeta, his props and respect. He got the best speeches and motivation out of all the DBZ characters.
Dude who doesn't love Vegeta
Journey95 Far obligatory toriyama joke
who tf hates vegeta?
Vegeta is the most motivational character in dbz and truly accepted life over meager desires, from proud, arrogant prince to a role model, even in dbgt his character shines, though i hate dbgt
I'm running my own shop and I have watched this every morning for 3 months till now.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
-Frederick Douglas
Almost makes me tear up watching this. I love Z’s deep and intricate backstories and explanations for things fit into the episodes. This story by Vegeta truly captures what it meant to be a Super Saiyan, maybe even more than what it took for Goku.
Not only fits into z, fits into things in real life too that people go through
Funny thing is, this scene wasn't actually in the manga. Vegeta just has Super Saiyan now from offscreen, and there's not an explanation given how he got it. This recount is filler, but it's an example of extremely solid, character defining filler that should have been in the original story.
Vegeta struggled so much to achieve what his father told him he was destined to be it brought me so much happiness that finally he did it
Yeah Goko onky had to witness pure chaos and once everybody was dead he went super Saiyan but Vegeta forced his super sayian like I KNOW I GOT IT
I loves how Vegeta describes the storm as:
*“An outward manifestation of the storm - raging inside me!”* DBZ WAS SO GREAT MAN
And the way he yells out, *“Ka- Koraaat!”*
Great writing
Kakarooot
Good writing doesn't have to bluntly tell the audience. They show the storm and you are supposed to connect the dots.
I bet the Android is like “ who is this guy talking to?”
Lmfao
Gero: I can't hear him what's he's saying android 19
19: something about 2nd best
Made me lol 😂
@@jessicaortiz9868 vegeta would be like you androids are mailfunctioning lol
@@jessicaortiz9868 Lmao my girl
It is purely poetic how Vegeta, the one who works the hardest in achieving greater strength, gives up after years of training not caring about anything anymore. Yet, it is when he gives up all he has invested in himself that he achieves Super Saiyan.
RIP, Mr. Toriyama. Thank you for the great characters and life lessons. You'll be remembered forever.
"I welcomed it . It seemed fitting. Like it was an outward manifestation of the storm that was raging inside of me"😱. These lines though
I conclude that vegeta is a poet himself
Lines of a badass mother=#&$@!
If only English teachers saw this
@@treemane0 they would still ignore it. Saying cartoon is bad for you
Ankit sharma that’s what women say when I’m clappin them cheeks
the person writing the dialogues should be given a medal
Monologue*
No bro, it's like vegeta isn't talking to anyone else he is giving someone an interview
@@christianbanks7458Bruce Falconer was the composer. He didn't write any dialogue.
@@christianbanks7458Uh, 100% wrong
Push through the pain, giving up hurts more. - Vegeta.
Watching this as an adult just hits more cause I sometimes you just have to let things go and get your mind off from it. Then suddenly you achieve set goal cause your mind wasn’t so clouded or distracted, stopping you to win. As kids we were Goku. Growing up, you become more like Vegeta.
Incredibly accurate
So true.
I love how Vegeta’s motivation was the pure anger he got by knowing that he would never surpass Goku
@Mani Koppu Finally it is about time
Some people have to be pushed by external factors to reach their full potential. Goku was too nice and his external factor was losing a friend. For Vegeta he literally got mad at himself.
@Mani Koppu not really lmao
@Mani Koppu i hate how author always did him dirty just like gohan
@@chewanhaziqfarhan479 or Yamcha? Imagine losing your girl to the dude who ordered to kill you 😂
Vegeta is the most realistic personality on DBZ
facts he has human like struggles
Ha that's funny
Cause it's false
Darth Revcolo it’s true. He fails and fails works and works just to be the best. Goku in the other hand how many times has he failed?
Jesse Turner vegeta has more fails than goku though
Rip Toriyama, you don’t know what this means to me man😭
@1:08 … what he says here resonates with me. Growing up, watching people achieve things you’ve wanted to achieve for yourself but always falling short.. yes it’s maddening. I understand vegeta here.
same.
Moral of the story if you really want something just stop caring for it
Amen
Deon Carzell Sometimes a pause is necessary
It sucks how many times that's been true.
Sorry but that is not true. If you want something you need to think 400x to get 400x solutions and choose the best one. Then to make the best solution work you will have to make 400x the effort you think it will take.
no, if u want to achieve higher potential and become a better person you have to let go of your ego
Whoever is Vegeta's voice actor did a spectacular job. This is incredible
Chris Sabat
@Notorious B.I.G It's not?
@Notorious B.I.G That's Chris Sabat
How the hell do you not know the voice actor
Keandre Green chill
It’s crazy vegeta was training 500 times gravity before he was a super saiyan, then in the buu saga Pui Pui thought 10x would make a difference 😂
I don't think anyone can endure 500 Times gravity,I mean if Goku went to train at 500 times gravity he would struggle at first cause his body isn't adapted to such gravity,ofc that is if he wasn't training more than 100G as how he did in Namek Saga
Vegeta experienced ego death practically .. damn the dialogue is something else
deep.
Indeed
I'd want Vegeta to tell more stories, he makes it so dramatic XD
*In Vegeta's voice* One night I was extremely hungry, the hunger was maddening!!!!! I then walked downstairs, it took everything I had and more, and then I saw the sandwich in the refrigerator, I welcomed it, it was was like the perfect manifestation of my burning hunger! I then ate the sandwich as if my very survival depended on it and it was delicious. Yes....That is how it happened. Now tell me does a machine like you ever experience hunger?
@@omeganemesis9256 lmfao
Ren Noir Suzugamori becoming super saiyan was dramatic
Ren Noir Suzugamori good night moon, you weakling!
@@omeganemesis9256 lol why could I actually hear vegetas voice saying that in my head 😂😂😂
This can be a metaphor for whatever in life. You try to achieve something for years and by letting it go you actually achieve it. I sometimes come back to this video to feel with Vegeta.
@Simz Zxy bro you just proved you are simp.
@Simz Zxy 🤦🏾♂️….Bro please stfu
@Simz Zxy let that girl go. You can find one that’s actually into you
What did this simz guy said
You hit the nail on the head. & that’s Exactly what I’m doing right now.
This is one of the best scenes of the arc. Vegeta's own rage at himself is what propelled him forward, further contrasting him with Goku's righteous fury over Krillin dying.
💯💯💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Couldnt of said it better
Remember when becoming a super saiyan was a big deal. Good times
When becoming a super saiyan was actually earned
Edit: wow almost 7000 likes thanks guys
Coughs "caulifla", "kale", "cabba"
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy cabba definitly earned it
@@vatergagamehl6783 agreed
@@EzioAuditore-vr1oy well I mean, Cabba earned it tho, kinda. Kale was already sorta a super saiyan, she was a LSSJ, or I guess super saiyan berserker, even though she literally became broly with tits. Caulifla can go fuck herself
The plot gave away ssj to all three of them, one of the reasons super was crap was because the plot stretched a lot of things
"Even the simplest of moves"
Does like 5 backflips in a row
In DBZ world where people fight by laying mushroom clouds and brawling at supersonic speed, backflips are basics.
*at 450G*
@@Kragatar r/woooooosh
@@lekoesic r/woosh
@@saumyadeepbhattacharjee280 r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
A lot of ppl miss the spiritual aspect of DBZ.
Seems to me the last thing Vegeta had to do wasn’t more training under more gravity but to completely detach from worldly things for a moment. He didn’t care about winning, being better than anyone, nothing at all…it was like the last latch had finally been broken for all that stored potential to unleash…not him crying his way to super Saiyan how most comments make it seem. Vegeta has a rough and very relatable story in terms of being the best version of yourself or being who you think you are destined to be.
Rip Goat this shit means something to me man😭
Goku had to experience the loss of someone precious to him. Vegeta hadn't cared about anyone else but himself at the time. I think what he lost was himself. In that moment, he lost his sense of purpose; he was done trying to even matter.
Watching as a kid, I didn't get scenes like this at all, but as an adult, I really want to get into these characters' heads and figure out what drives them. It makes these stories much more emotional.
you 100% have the best explanation out of anyone in these comments.
Well said 🥇
Wooow👊👊👊
The best comment
This was a great read.
With an ego that big, losing any sense of care for yourself is pretty damn monumental.
The way that vegita tells this story makes it seem like hes making it all up. Like he probably went super saiyan by accident on the toilet but thought that was too embarrassing.
Og my gooodododod
WHY WONT IT COME OOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT
Why did i eat egg SALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
😂
I was literally thinking the same shit LMAO
"I decided to continue my training in the solitude of space, where I would be unhindered by the distractions of the Earth."
Like raising a child. Vegeta, father of the year.
RIP Akira Toriyama sense!
Thank you
Something about is just better than having tingles in your back
Honestly, I think the best way they should have described the power of a super saiyan is the feeling and force of tremendous power that hits you.
The whole tingle thing is just plain stupid.
@@MrOuran369 the reason I hate the back tangle situation is because the Super Saiyan transformation is a lot like the Sharingan in which in able to awaken it and push it further, strong emotions need to be felt most likely grief,hatred, or Rage. So for these two nobody girls to just pull it off with no difficulty really and no training made me angry.
Ikr
@@kameronmiller2226 I didn't care much about the tingle in the back, I used to be pretty okay with it. But now that you said it, yeah. Fuck the tingle.
I think the U6 saiyans were more evolved and grew with more S cells like Gohan, Goten, and Trunks have. But the super saiyan form was supposed to be the gateway to all other forms, it's supposed to be hard to achieve, but when you achieve it, it goes into refinement until you get all the other forms.
Doesn't this count as a tingle in a way?
So basically he became supersaiyan after he stop wanting it so much?That is some enlightenment moment
Enlightened LoneWalker cause he needed to become stronger in order t save himself and his ship
Remember that turning into a super saiyan comes from the need and not the desire. His desire of becoming one was the reason he couldn't do it.
n3kbrEak3r cauflia didn't because I of a desire
Scorpion H Tbh kale and caulifla are complete bullshit, one of the main reasons I dislike super.
n3kbrEak3r I meant she did do it because of a desire. I hate auto correct
RIP Akira Toriyama
I wish I could say thank you for creating Vegeta. scenes like this gradually made me realize no matter what demons you're facing, you must learn to face them and use them as motivation to become better.
Distractions of the earth= banging Bulma lol
I don't understand why super can't be written with this intensity. The fights and animation are great but the passion and energy in the characters have dropped significantly.
Big facts man when I first seen this as a kid this scene was so emotional to me because you really see the pain he went through to turn to a super saiyan
Well at least he gave names to his numerous side characters like Tien, Piccolo, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Majin Buu, Krillin, etc.
Great animation? I wish
Rolling Buckler The animation is ass
I agree with this but I think maybe episode 131 was kind of anger filled with that final fight but otherwise you're completely right
This was me trying to find my first job
And just like Goku, it's all about who you know.
An my try to pass physics
Rashed Nasser and me *
Surpassing my Girlfriend on DeviantArt
this was me trying to get a girl
Out of all saiyans who went super, Vegeta's was the most unique one. the only person he lost during the transformation is himself while others had to watch their friends die. and it was the most dramatic as well I get goosebumps whenever I watch this scene.
RIP Akira Toriyama
Thank You for creating the greatest gift I’ve ever known
I’m not gonna lie when I seen this as a kid I cried. I was so happy for my guy. Im so emotional 😂
Even when I see it as an adult, I feel emotional
@@dwarkanathpawar7885 same, the voice acting is so convincing this shit classic
I dit too 😂
to bad he got wrecked by a android not to long after this
“I decided to continue my training in the solitude of space, where I would be unhindered by the distractions of the Earth”.
So basically he’s saying he was starting to spend more time hooking up with Bulma than actually training.
Are you suggesting that going on a date with Bulma is less intense than what he experienced on that alien planet?
Or maybe he went there so he didn't have to hear her mouth telling him how dangerous his training was.
Training with bulma is physically demanding but pays off in the end
TheGreenTaco999 lmao
Hey hey... Bulmas a babe don't diss my man Vegeta and his choice in women.
"Then something just snapped , something inside of me" 💀
Bulma gave him a boost 🍌
I dont get it
@@shuanextremeI don’t get it either lol
"Power comes in response to a need not a want".
More like "Power comes in response to a need, not a desire."
jigger jones Yes but that if you're going to quote someone or something, you should quote is exactly like the character said it.
jigger jones The original comment is quoting Goku. You're slow. REGGIE GAMER IS QUOTING GOKU.\ You got it now?
Desire!!! He repeats it at least 3 times
Tell that to the universe 6...
"I wanna be a Super Saiyan! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna I wanna I wanna!"
"Pushups, sit ups, and PLENTY of juice."
"HOW MANY PUSH UPS DID HE DO? HOW MANY SIT UPS? WHAT KIND OF JUICE DID HE DRINK?"
Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine
@Khalil Goldwin Yeah, more like pure unadulterated ego.
Khalil Goldwin is that okay?
@@DaFro3713 as a matter of fact go f*ck yourself
RIP Toriyama this moment was so important to my childhood
Akira Toriyama gave us the greatest moments ever rest easy
I literally cried when he said "I didn't care anymore... I didn't care about being better than Kakarot, I didn't care about being a super sayan, I didn't care if I LIVED, I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING!!!... BWAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!"
Most emotionally inspiring anime moment in history!
that "BWAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!" made me laugh when i read it XD.
But i agree with you
Agreed
Soft
Can't tell if you're serious or not.
Hands down the best
Vegeta's speeches are so chilling and inspiring! the way he speaks is truly of a prince!
And Oh! Dear, u speak like a Princess too...👸
✌😘✌😍✌😘✌
#Childee#FoXeS
Technically he is a King. And Bulma is his queen. And trunks is the real prince
John Connor All Hail Princess Trunks!
You should see how trunks narrates his story from the daddy time in the hyperbolic time chamber
This is what I love about the original ssj transformations, they required each sayian to grow some part of themselves.
For goku it was his peaceful nature, sure he'd been pissed before but in my favorite rendition of the scene his eyes flash green and he says "I *will* make you suffer!"
A darker, more calculated outlook he continued to utilize through the rest of Z when the situation was dire.
For vegeta it was his pride, this was the first time he ever set it aside and it paved the way for him to have one of my favorite arcs capping off with his sacrifice, and later speech to goku in the buu saga.
For trunks it was losing his mentor, brother figure and possibly only friend, and taking up a mantle that he was absolutely not ready for, but had to because there was no one else who could, and he succeeded.
For gohan it was a trial by fire to become a physically and emotionally self sufficient person ... about 9 years too early.
The transformation used to be a character growth, not just a power boost, or worse still a "tingle"
Also yes, I am aware of how this video is.
And Vegeta said the one thing in the video that he never said before: he didn't care about beating Goku, becoming a Super or even bothering to move on.
His rage alone is what made him a Super Saiyan.
From what I heard, Super Saiyan is a form based off of rage and rage alone.
you cooked brother 🍝
This is easily relatable to real life
Vegeta’s motivation to surpass his rival is so relatable in real life. A lot of us have that instinct to want to be better than someone. Even if Vegeta stayed a true villain instead of turning anti hero many fans would want to see him succeed because we all have a little bit of the saiyan prince in all of us.
All the hoes want a little bit of saiyan prince in them 😉
So true
Speak for yourself anyone who wants to be better than a next person is working from their ego and insecurity just like vegeta and people wonder why they aren't happy or satisfied.... The only person your supposed to compete with IS YOURSELF to be better than you was yesterday and not caring about where anyone else.
Focus on your lane in the race and the funny/sad thing is people who try to compete with others don't even realise it's a one way competition as that other person your so fixated on doesn't even view you in the same way.... Either because they are a high calibre person who competes with themselves OR they are looking at people they perceive to be at a higher level than them which they don't class you as..
Don't watch anybody and just work on yourself if you want to be truly happy and successful
@@kingkyle.0.0.7 shhhh.
@@kingkyle.0.0.7You don’t know what’s possible until you see someone do it.
Some people can’t find it in themselves and use someone they look up to or someone that’s successful as a reference or a crutch to push beyond what they currently are.
The point of training or conditioning at all is to be better than what you are then. Even if that means trying to beat someone, doesn’t mean it stays that way.
Call it what you want, insecure, weak minded, it really isn’t a bad mindset. It just means you’ll never stop wanting to be better.
Vegeta tells his own son while training with him after he assumes he’s surpassed goku to not let anyone be stronger than him and to use that motivation to help beat the androids at HIS home.
You could stay in your lane and work on your own, but when the time comes you can be unprepared because what others have in store that you DIDN’T know about.
That’s why sports and COMPETITIVE NATURE is a thing. To push and become better than others because ultimately you become better than yourself the day before.
It would be different if one saw someone better than them and just WISHING and WHINING about being better. THATS insecurity, not what you described before.
If you’re willing to work to not only get to where someone is but PAST that, you’re solid.
Happiness comes from progress, and anyone comparing themselves to someone else or not is capable of looking back and seeing the difference they made.
Whatever you have to do, do it. And while you’re doing it, don’t forget where you started.
“The power comes from a need, not a desire”.
“I didn’t care anymore, I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan, I didn’t care if I LIVED”.
And that was the need. Vegeta needed to transform into a Super Saiyan because he needed a reason to live.
Makes sense. Kill a man's passion and you kill him
Goku is always right
You just made Vegeta more deserving of being my fav dbz character
Tingly feeling in his back 😁
Goku's need was his friends dying, and needing to protect his son, needing enough power to protect frieza
Gohan's need was the need for power to protect those who he couldn't protect before
Trunks' need was the need for power to avenge Gohan and protect himself from the androids
Vegeta's need was the need to have a reason to live and to have enough power to not die
Christopher Sabat is an absolute master
The rage and anguish from him as vegeta finally transforms is absolutely chilling
Nevermind the fighting or power levels, Vegeta's inner struggle and self reflection was easily the best part of Dragon Ball Z, as well as Gohan's desire not to let down his friends.
Unfortunately, no one in Dragon Ball Super is really struggling to reach any sort of personal goal.
Maybe if Ultra Instinct was mentioned at the start of the series, and classified as a state almost impossible to achieve, the show would have been more interesting.
Vegeta really is a good story teller lol maybe he told trunks a lot of bedtime stories
Jesse Turner nah lmao
@blah blah man looool😂😂😂
When becoming a super saiyan actually meant something
Yeah Goten and Trunks crushed that🤣🤣
King 425 goten and trunks?
No, not one bit.
It was all that nonsense from super that ruined the meaning of a super saiyan
First super saiyan god
Then super saiyan god super saiyan
Then super saiyan god super saiyan rose
Then super saiyan rage
Then super saiyan berserk
Then super saiyan god super saiyan évolution
Then ultra instinct
Then mastered ultra instinct.
They put so many hair dye changes with stupidly HUGE power scales, with each new colour being astronomically stronger than the previous, that the original super saiyan stopped being a big deal.
Now it's EXPECTED for saiyans to break that. In the past, it was a miracle. That's what you call beating a dead horse
@@omnimonafroamerikaner7245 its called evolution itself not going to be called just super saiyan the whole time
@@omnimonafroamerikaner7245 I’m just saying when they were kids..remember Trunks turning super saiyan in the training chamber with Vegeta?? And Goten training with Gohan and transforming?? I get your point but I’m saying those 2 shattered the mold of becoming the legendary super saiyan…Goku and Vegeta made it awsome..Trunks and Goten made it light work
@@Syte425 because trunks and goten were conceive after their father become super sayian
That's why it was difficult for gohan goku vegeta
And easy for trunks and goten
Vegeta is the only character to win against the writers themselves. That the ultimate dub
Rip Akira
"And then it happened...I felt this tingle in the middle of my back".
"And that's how I became a Super Saiyan".
Lol I laughed hard
Going super sayain means you where able to change your self meaning u have character development dragon ball super fucked that up now its just oh your over 10000 power level u can go super sayain or here plot armor u need it back then u had to learn life lessons to go super sayain. goku fighting with anger to defeat true evil (freeza) which goku has never done before thats why he told gohan to leave before he lose himself bc he never fought with anger and vegeta being ok with being second place to someone who he thought he was supposed to be better than bc he his the prince he never believed someone could be stronger than him until that day which made him go super sayain by saying its ok to be second place just try to be the best u can be just like goku. And gohan going super sayain was to show that hes not a little kids anymore and gohan going super sayain 2 was to prove when to use your powers its ok to use anger and hate towards your enemies if that protecting your friends and family. Trunks showing that u need to believe in yourself when your all alone gohan was his last friend the last one he could believe in and look up to now hes gone and its him its time to be a man and train harder. Then super sayain kinda lost its meaning after that
@@sonicooler9468 I do believe that it's a good idea to have super saiyan have a base power level limit because that's a lot of energy surging into your body and if you are too weak you probably shouldn't be biologically capable of doing it. That said the lack of emotion and modern triggers just giving me enough rage to go super Saiyan
Dr gero: Enough of you senseless babbling !
I’m kind of annoyed of how we went from this story of how Vegeta became a super saiyan then to how caulifla describes the tingly feeling in her back then instantly becomes a super saiyan
Sam Caulifla s a supersaiyan 2 now ffs
The same tingly feeling made her go ssj 2 a day after she went ssj, no training or anything, just by seeing goku as a ssj2
They could have just have the time limit for preparing for the tournament be longer then have them train with chompa and vados since chompa would surely want to have his own Saiyans to out do his brother which would perfectly explain it since training with Gods would make it a more believable jump in power
like goten and trunks? They literally went super saiyan 3 fused by watching goku do it once LOL. U6 saiyans were over trained for super saiyan 1. Please stop.
Over trained for ssj1? We only saw them train once and they go ssj before they really started training, and I don't like gotenks either, I thought that was stupid as well, but being able to go ssj2 because of a tingly feeling in their back is just stupid, I don't get why they didn't have them at least earn it through anger or something like how Cabba did, just feels lazy
forever one of the most underrated and one of my favorite moments in dbz.
Vegeta proving once again that spite is the greatest motivator.
“Where I would be unhindered by the distractions of the earth” A.K.A Bulma’s sex drive or constant desire to “hang out” with him
She did say he was lonely, though he was used to isolation. I’m sure she charmed and pestered her way into his thoughts before he even realized it 😂
@@thesilvershining he seems to be the type that wants to be alone. I did read the creator said Vegeta had a one night stand with bulma because was feeling vulnerable and depressed over not being at Goku’s level. Bulma found him in that state and I think she mistook it to be loneness since she too was depressed being alone with no one and they found comfort with each other for one night
But I don’t believe one night, I don’t see bulma stopping at one lol
@@whitedragoness23 My headcanon is that Bulma truly fell for him 100% by the time that night happened, which is why Future Bulma still seems sad that Vegeta didn’t love her in return. So yeah, she wanted more than a one night stand but Vegeta was angry that it happened, mostly angry at himself for letting himself be vulnerable (aka weak) with her and purposefully pushed her away afterwards so she wouldn’t approach him again. And then pushed her and his unborn child even further away once ge became a super saiyan. He convinced himself that was all he wanted/needed and Bulma was just a one-time mistake. Despite all this you can see she still cares for him and asks more than once if Vegeta is alright and worries about him during the android and cell sagas.
If it weren’t for Trunks coming back to the past and actively trying to get Vegeta to open his heart again I doubt he and Bulma would have ended up a couple. BUT the fact of the matter is this man so rarely lets himself be emotionally vulnerable, so for her to succeed in getting him to let his guard down at all really is a huge deal. To me it shows that he developed trust and admiration for her and subconsciously desired her company whether he would admit it or not. Even if he pushed her away afterwards, it still happened, and he can’t deny that. He just had to come to terms with the fact he was already changing and his old warrior lifestyle of violence and isolation would never truly fulfill him again.
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I think bulma DID have very strong feelings for vegeta but after she had a child she felt like she had a special link with him because of their child. Not only that but they had a night together so an intimate moment would definitely make bulma prefer vegeta over yamcha because he went that far with her.
I don’t dispute the fact he would of seen it as a weakness. And he Viewed family life with her as a weakness. And Yes bulma did show concern but I think she knew vegeta wasn’t the type to come running back to her so she was ok if he did or didn’t ( she’s a strong woman who can handle saiyan blood as vegeta once said).
I think future bulma did wonder what if vegeta had lived and if he did what could of been and she got excited after she heard from trunks how positive vegeta took to him so she didn’t want to miss that one chance that she never had. Yes i do think she did love him after having his child. But was strong enough to keep going and live her life.
I too thought future trunks had a impact on vegeta and really pushed him to change and he kinda did. In another interview the creator stated after vegeta legitimately fell in love with bulma after getting together with her he started a strong relationship with trunks because bulma pushes him to spend time with his son.
Vegeta likes strong women so he doesn’t fight her on this. It’s been indicated in outside sources but I can’t find a legit from the author that bulma has a active *ahem* adult $ex life. Plus she keeps her self young, she keeps looking good. and unlike chi chi she works on her marriage and keeps vegeta rope in the relationship. In the English translation supposedly toriyama said bulma is the dominant one in the relationship and in control.
Here’s a bonus: in the manga there’s a scene where vegeta returns with future trunks and bulm runs and hugs vegeta and he pushes her away in embrassement. He then sees her crying as she loved him and worried about him that he manages to pat her on the head (wtf?!) to show her affection back
@@thesilvershining I thought about after I rely and I think I misunderstood what you meant. So yes I have to agree she fell in love with vegeta during the one night stand. I say one night because that’s what the manga said.it’s difficult to pin point when it happened for bulma due to her being so focused with baby trunks.
at 1:25 Vegeta mentioned he went to space to avoid distractions...im pretty sure he was talking about Bulma lol
Yeah he was probably tired of having sex with her tbh 🤣
Worth noting that the armor he's wearing on that asteroid is the armor that Bulma made for him.
@@waltzingfury all of his armors were made by her except the saiyan and namek saga ones
@@saul_goodman3932 for real he was trying to save his strength for training lol
@@waltzingfury doesn't mean she wasn't distracting him or getting on his nerves
I decided to rewatch this scene because of DBS: Broly.
I noticed how much more impactful his descent into Super Saiyan was than most transformations in the series and started to think about why.
I came to realize that the core of Super Saiyan wasn't just rage. What makes Super Saiyan meaningful is grief.
At the end of the Namek saga, in History of Trunks, Broly, and even the alternate scenario from DBZ Budoukai all have something more to it than just rage. Broly helped make this especially clear thanks to the Wrathful form. Rage is simply a by-product of Super Saiyan. The trigger behind each of these transformations was grief. Goku transformed due to the permanent loss of Krillin, Trunks lost his mentor, Broly believed he killed his father, and Vegeta grieves Nappa because he sees that Nappa could never go on after Goku brutalized him.
But then I thought of this scene and wanted to go back and analyze it in that context. What is Vegeta grieving in this flashback?
His entire world.
Not his literal entire world, but his entire worldview, his value as a person. Vegeta has been taught that his value lies in his breeding and therefore his strength since he was a child. He was a prodigy among prodigies, and that made him better than everyone else. He's a true Saiyan warrior, the pinnacle of his people, and he should always be proud.
Then, Planet Vegeta is destroyed and Vegeta experiences something new. In the Freeza Force, Vegeta is tied for ninth place with fucking Cui. Freeza, Zarbon, and Dodoria treat him like a joke, and Vegeta can't even argue back lest they put him in his place. Vegeta spent 17 years and the better part of his childhood in this environment. He went from being the best to being nothing.
So, Vegeta doubled down. He started scheming to beat Freeza and secure his place at the top. Then comes this kid, Raditz's weaker little brother, and he beats Vegeta strength-to-strength somehow.
To Vegeta, it confirms everything Freeza ever said about him, and Vegeta can't accept that.
So he goes even harder. He'll go right into an active warzone even without his tail just for a chance to get the Dragon Balls and give himself the edge he needs to beat Freeza.
Of course, things don't go to plan, and even after all of his RNG manipulation, Vegeta is still powerless against Freeza. In the same spot he's been in all his life, Vegeta cries for the first time in his life, because he's so close yet still so far.
Then, Goku becomes a Super Saiyan and seemingly kills Freeza. After that, Trunks shows up, turns Super Saiyan, and actually kills Freeza.
Now Vegeta's being outclassed by some kid, too. So, he pushes himself, he keeps going because he can't accept that he doesn't have what it takes. He can't accept that Freeza was right about him.
He works himself to the bone, putting himself through a level of training that at this point is basically just torture and isolates himself from positive influences like Bulma.
When the meteor shower comes, he's half-broken, trying desperately to hold on, clinging to his lifeline in the ship. But he doesn't have what it takes. His desperation is what shot him in the foot, and that sends Vegeta spiraling. He's on the recieving end of what the Saiyan upper class has put the Saiyan peasantry through for years. Goku just has something he doesn't. Vegeta's at his wall.
And he breaks.
He stops trying to surpass Kakarot, he admits that he's not who he thought he was, that Freeza's taunts were true.
He accepts death because his life the way he's lived it is over. He will never be the best.
But that grief sets off something in Vegeta, the true source of his strength. Back in the Namek saga, Freeza laughed that Vegeta could never be a Super Saiyan, he's a pathetic conniving blueblood who thinks he deserves the universe, which held him back from being a Super Saiyan.
This moment is Vegeta's first step into moving on from that, and the power that was waiting for this moment breaks out.
Vegeta is able to become a Super Saiyan because he lets go. Of course, the rush of power causes him to regress, but it's Vegeta's first step to overcoming his Saiyan pride.
It's a perfect part of his character arc, and it's probably the best anime-original content in Dragon Ball.
I hate to be that guy who mentions the thing everyone already knows, but that's why the tingly back explaination is so bad. Saiyans have so much potential for good character arcs so it's really sad to see them ruining all of these new cool Saiyan characters.
Imagine how cool it could be if instead of Cabba just getting a death threat from Vegeta, his Super Saiyan trigger would be Frost who would betray them and maybe even kill someone that is close to him like that old man who sent him to recruit Caulifla, they would need to show a good amount of scenes with that old man so the watchers would understand their bond, but it would be so much better than what we got.
Amazing write-up
Well done! Read the whole thing.
👍💯 i read how he undertsands power comes from grief and it truly does 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Of course, that lesson was completely lost on him the moment he obtained Super Saiyan, but it eventually caught up to him.
Vegeta’s speeches are the best 💯
Vegeta represents the majority of people. We can't all be Goku, Broly & Gohan.
Lol
Fam Vegeta is a born Prince fym he's the majority of people man is literally the 1% of the 1% lmfao
goku trains his ass off as well
Goku trained to get where he got to too. The only real "prodigies" were Gohan and Broly.
Goku is pure. Majority of people are not pure. Everyone has little of wrong mindset, anger, arrogance, ego, jealousy.
That's why vegeta represent majority.
"No! No More! THAT'S IT!!! I DON'T CARE!!!" That line has so much emotion it sends chills down my spine...
And that scream to finish it off damn I love that scream
'It seemed like the only thing holding my body together was my one desire: To be better...than Kakarot.'
In many ways, with his various struggles of identity, crisis of faith and his quest for greatness in the face of regularly being threatened with a life of mediocrity, Vegeta is the everyman of the story, an audience surrogate. He's all of us when we come up against our seemingly insurmountable goal. And choose to achieve it no matter what.
Sometimes the power to let go of the things that restrain us is ascension in itself...
Imagine working hard for years, almost give up on living, and finally you achieved super sayian....but then some kids came alone and become super sayian after feeling something in their back
Like half of the tournament of power competitors act like they've never worked out or fought a day in their life but they're still stronger than Namek/Android saga characters
@@jonseon5952 lolwut? most of them are warriors
@@jonseon5952 Well we never saw them train, if any from the other universes was the main character and saw goku, vegeta we would also wonder how they became strong
"Form the strongest fighters in your universes in this tournament" the show literally says this
Because it’s all bout “feeling”!
@@jonseon5952 Universe 7 had the second lowest power level in the whole multiverse. The androids were the most powerful beings in universe 7 because everyone in the universe were weak at the time
*“The power comes in response to a need, not a desire.”*
Going super sayain means you where able to change your self meaning u have character development goku fighting with anger to defeat true evil (frezza) which goku has never done before thats why he told gohan to leave before he lose himself bc he never fought with anger and vegeta being ok with being second place to someone who he thought he was supposed to be better than bc he his the prince he never believed someone could be stronger than him until that day which made him go super sayain by saying its ok to be second place just try to be the best u can be just like goku. And gohan going super sayain was to show that hes not a little kid anymore and gohan going super sayain 2 was to prove when to use your powers its ok to use anger and hate towards your enemies if that protecting your friends and family. Trunks showing that u need to believe in yourself when your all alone gohan was his last friend the last one he could believe in and look up to now hes gone and its him its time to be a man and train harder. Then super sayain kinda lost its meaning after that
@@sonicooler9468 It was so beautiful. I think its an analogy to manhood and self actualisation. Dbz lost its meaning starting from the buu arc, unfortunately.
2:51 the feeeeels such a good voice actor
2:46 welp, I can't unhear the music anymore.
2:51 I wanna be a Super Saiyan, i wanna i wanna i wanna :c
+lolimancer Nuko cell in a later abridged episode: i want android 18.. I WANNA I WANNA I WANNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
haaa
926531 rua Cant tell if you are a troll or u are serious.
926531 rua There is a RUclips series called, Dragon Ball Z Abridged, in this scene they dubbed Vegeta saying what i wrote lol.
926531 rua You should watch it, it is really funny
“My motivation was different than Kakarot’s , my motivation was to be the best, to the greatest saiyan alive as I always had been!”
Gives me chills ever time.
Akira toriyama really did change the world he inspired so many great authors and influenced anime and manga he’s basically the Stan Lee of Japan without him we wouldn’t have all these amazing series as Naruto or one piece akira started it all he was a legendary story teller my fav works from him are not only dragon ball but also he’s other works like the manga dr slump the dragon quest games and two chrono games dragon quest is a very popular series same as chrono trigger and chrono cross without akira toriyama I doubt those series would be as popular and would be very different he had a very unique style of drawing he’s characters and it was like he made them come to life made the audience feel really connected to he’s characters he will be missed but he’s creation he’s works will live on forever in the form of media games and collections rest in peace the goat the legend Akira Toriyama 😭
Excellent explanation, Akira changed the world with DBZ, one of the greatest works of art ever created which impacted all 4 corners of the world.
Vegeta and Trunks had the best transformations. Vegeta was fighting for his life against nature, and he won. He pushed himself to near death in his training, and has earned every bit of power.
Becoming a super saiyan was nearly impossible back then.
Ikr
Half saiyans can do it a bit easier i guess
@@mcbdllc136 Humans are more connected with their emotions and aren’t as stoic or emotionally stunted as Saiyans.
The hybrids have Saiyan power with human emotions to unlock their true power way easier.
@@ValentinoMarino11 oh
Now days it seems like you sneeze and accidentally become a super saiyan
This is how life is. You want something so bad for so long. And just as you are giving up on that dream, life gives it to you. This is what I like about Dragon Ball; it is simple, but full of lessons from even our daily life.
The same happened with Buddha.
Vegeta definitely wanted it the most
Can't unhear it
Vegeta is THE quintessential anti-hero. The proof is right here in this scene. Vegeta shows to whoop the enemy's ass and all of the heros are shaking and worried LOL I love DBZ man
that's also because he watched goku fight 1st so he knew what to expect.