I have almost no desire to play Overwatch after playing Marvel Rivals. Blizzard added Hazard and a mythic Rein skin, which is incredibly underwhelming when you see that NeatEase just dropped four characters in one season.
the good thing about the superheroes being in the game is not character design, sure thats nice and convenient, but they still have to siphon through hundreds of potential moves for each respective character, I think that the benefit of the superheroes is having an IP that is already extremely well known and has a good public opinion. People know iron man, for example, but you average consumer won't know or have a connection to "hero shooter original #32" so that barrier of entry is entirely scraped away. This has already had a huge effect on the numbers for the game, shit even my 40 year old coworkers are talking about it and playing it. Golden mix of popularity and good development
had blizzard realized like half of overwatch's potential, MR would've gone the LawBreakers way. hell, overwatch could've been fortnite big, if blizzard didn't have an obsession with shooting themselves in the foot every opportunity they get. MR could literally shut down this instant and overwatch would still be cooked. between jeff kaplan's detrimental unrealistic vision, geoff goodman's moranic hero design, and bobby kotick compromising greed, i don't know how the game lasted this long.
Overwatch would have never gotten as big as Fortnite as it doesn't appeal to Gen Alpha, which is one of the biggest reasons why Fortnite got even bigger.
@@ikhalid1418 Both. Younger Gen Z and older Gen Alpha. Only younger millennials and older Gen Z cared about Overwatch. Blizzard shoved that audience away.
@@ikhalid1418 I agree, besides Junkrat. He looks strange and cluttered to me. Reminds me of a Tumblr OC. Mei is a great design though, Tracer too. But they are wasted.
Hero shooter games thrive on the amount of new playerbase to come into a game. Once noobies becomes "too good" they drive away new players because nobody wants to lose 100 games before a win. Essentially Rivals cut off the life support for OW. Diehard OW players will get more and more sweaty and the barrier of entry for OW will be too high. If Rivals can stay new player friendly for a year or so OW will be locked into the live service death spiral. Low player base -> less revenue -> less development budget -> less player retention -> lower revenue.
Hey chat my dad was telling me a story right so one of his co workers goes oh yeh my son plays video games and my dad said yeh mine too and said my son plays marvel rivals and my dad said my son plays marvel rivals too and he is really good and obviously my dad knows me and chris so plays slow right? He says what hero does he play and he not even kidding says black panther right? and obviously my dad holds his cards to his thing right, and he reveals, my son is the best black panther in the world
Based takes. Overwatch will just always feel like wasted potential to me. Poor balance ruined the esports scene, OW2 ruined the gameplay we all loved, and there were 3-4 characters straight that just missed the mark, and then the health and hitbox changes for a cherry on top. Idk maybe its just me but i get ticked off thinking about what OW couldve been compared to what it became.
tbh i think the only thing OW has rn over MR is the hero design. You can argue some heroes are broken, not balanced, ruined the meta, etc. But you cant argue OW heroes feel worse to play from a technical standpoint. Even the “worst” or most boring heroes feel incredibly, meticulously created. MR has fun heroes dont get me wrong, but the technical feel of the heroes just dont have that level of depth OW heroes do. That’s why releases are much slower, and I hope OW doesn’t try to increase the amount of heroes they release because they would undermining what many love about the game, pretty much the only thing the community can agree on. Unfortunately, they have nothing else. Balance is trash, art team has gotten considerably worse. I cannot take people seriously when they say OW has the best art and skins, they do not LOL. The skins have actually gotten worse, MR has a much cleaner art team. MR has a lot of bugs, OW2 has actually gotten worse with bugs. OW1 ran flawlessly, the new team has spaghetti code. BP is pretty mid too. New game modes haven’t been that fun. I like the new matchmaking and ranked system. Too many gamemodes, features that are still missing from OW1. Less clear design philosophy and direction. Devs are lost, unsure what to do. Their lack of experience is showing a lot.
nah BP is 10x better than genji and dps doom just pure dopamine hit. the only boring hero in rivals is peni parker while in OW there is mauga, orisa, mei, mccree and more. even the mccree clone in MR (hela) is more fun with glide and omni directional dash instead of a stupid roll.
Overwatch might not be a failure but OW2 was. If you bring out a sequel and lose more players than you recruit thats failure, especially on a f2p model.
Now we need overwatch to team up with DC to get a true competitor cause right now marvel rivals is unmatched in terms of player retention. Most dps players of ow2 left for rivals now i see 10min q for healers (most mercy mains don't want to switch cause of skill issue)
Doesn't overwatch also have entire comic series to pull from? Plus this is only really true if they weren't just pulling concepts out of a hat lol Like hazard was then pulling Adam smasher and David from cyberpunk... Venture was them pulling archeologist... thats literally it... Illari is like superman and wonderwoman combined... And juno is actually pretty unique, junos like peak ow design and deserved a cinematic... speaking of which, they quit doing those so honestly with the quality they're putting in lately, they may as well start putting marvel heros inna hat and pulling them out for their backstory as well.. doubt anyone would notice, than pay some guy on fiver 50$ to make a cool design... I bet I could plop out 10 character designs, pay 500$ and have them all ready in under a month an theyd be on par if not better than their latest designs. And there's also something to be said about being forced into a creative box, I mean when you do this you sometimes end up with mauga where the hero didn't fit the kit so they created a new entire character quickly which just goes to show how easy it kinda is tbh, but thats how we got sigma.. one of the modt well written heros I might add and he was speed run lol, but than they tried mauga again and created the single worse hero design since brig... so if your hero design is sue storm well you now gotta fit invis, force field's and telekinesis into the same kit and have it function well without breaking the game like mauga, and that's harder than people are given credit for considering they're like 32 for 35 on their designs, their worst designs aren't even as mad as ows semi inoffensive designs... so really I wouldn't say thats the biggest advantage, now the fact that they can drop Dr doom in 3 years and potentially hit a new peek player count because all these heros have established fan bases already is a massive advantage, can't deny that 😂 But that's just why rivals will likely still be around in 10 years now
@yanderenjoyer no he meant to be sigma... look it up, they pivoted the design once they realised how actually hard it can be to design a kit for a hero.. they didn't than try again with the next tank release or the next or the next... they finally decide to male it tho, likely because they already had the model made from when they tried with sigma, but because the design is so basic with only a few key features, it makes it pretty hard to actually design a kit around him that's interesting. Meanwhile the mr devs are making these marvel heros as if they're making them like ow makes juno or venture where they get to shape the hero around the kit... I would actually say these marvel heros feel more like their designs that juno or venture.. but no one wants to praise that right? Just mindlessly state that it's harder to do one than the other without any knowledge of what it takes at all just to attempt to justify why blizz is so scummy and lazy 😂
@yanderenjoyer I mean why don't thry just continue taking marvel hero concepts and turning them into ow heros? Like widowmaker being exactly like blackwidow... or winston being a mash up of iron man and the hulk, I mean guy who runs a super hero organization, builds his own tech to fight others while getting bigger and stronger the angrier he gets... or soldier being captain America where he's the super soldier that dresses in red white and blue and dies only to turn out he didn't die... like I'm not knocking ow entirely for this, things take inspiration but like cmon... is it really that hard to just take inspiration from other things to make a hero design? Just like how the whole junkercity is mad max or hazard and sombra are based off cyberpunk... really don't think it's a huge task to just brain storm some hero concepts like this and than both parties gotta design a character model still and given mr does their own spins on the heros designs that honestly are better than the originals... except wolverine... I'll admit they dropped the ball on him... dudes having a mid life crisis in his 200s 😂 But like seriously, the only disparity here is their creativity which I would think thats the funnest part... I often used to sit here as an artist, drawing ow concepts for fun... an I don't even get paid for it...
Never in my life have I disagreed with your takes. Have no idea how you're pretending to have fun playing such a POS game. I thought you appreciated good movement. Everything about marvel feels terrible to play and is not fun compared to OW. This game is new and people are still upset with Blizzard that's it. The marvel bandwagon makes no sense beyond that. Glad you acknowledged that the movement isn't fun and its great to watch you again man - we've missed you!
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The counter to this would have been the pve mode for overwatch 2. How to screw the pooch 101. All this by a free to play game less then 3 months old. Downfall deserved.
Unironically what's stopping Marvel Rivals from just ending up like Overwatch? The only thing I could see it surpassing is if it had PVE. I honestly think there's too much shit on the screen for me to get into the game competitively.
IQ gap and development team size. Activision gave a blank check and infinite resources to the Overwatch team to do more content, but the team decided to keep it small due to their egos and the fear that they would become a yearly COD slop type game. Welp now their game is dead. On the other hand, NetEase will push so much more Rivals content and they are not afraid of becoming too bloated in the process
Marvel Rivals is doing really good, but its not that Easy just cause of Marvel IP, Gameplay needs to be good, and it is... but Characters Design also needs to be good, otherwise they could find themselves on the Concord way...
Bro the game is trash I’m sorry but it is.it’s 2025 u can’t be making trash they still have a chance their the best at the first person hero so far so if they don’t actually pick it up first person players are gone
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I have almost no desire to play Overwatch after playing Marvel Rivals. Blizzard added Hazard and a mythic Rein skin, which is incredibly underwhelming when you see that NeatEase just dropped four characters in one season.
the good thing about the superheroes being in the game is not character design, sure thats nice and convenient, but they still have to siphon through hundreds of potential moves for each respective character, I think that the benefit of the superheroes is having an IP that is already extremely well known and has a good public opinion. People know iron man, for example, but you average consumer won't know or have a connection to "hero shooter original #32" so that barrier of entry is entirely scraped away. This has already had a huge effect on the numbers for the game, shit even my 40 year old coworkers are talking about it and playing it. Golden mix of popularity and good development
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they killed doomfist for a 5v5 scam to sell battlepaases and games. fk blizzard. i love rivals
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had blizzard realized like half of overwatch's potential, MR would've gone the LawBreakers way. hell, overwatch could've been fortnite big, if blizzard didn't have an obsession with shooting themselves in the foot every opportunity they get.
MR could literally shut down this instant and overwatch would still be cooked. between jeff kaplan's detrimental unrealistic vision, geoff goodman's moranic hero design, and bobby kotick compromising greed, i don't know how the game lasted this long.
Overwatch would have never gotten as big as Fortnite as it doesn't appeal to Gen Alpha, which is one of the biggest reasons why Fortnite got even bigger.
@mittag983 Wait, wasn't it gen z that got fortnite over?
@@ikhalid1418 Both. Younger Gen Z and older Gen Alpha. Only younger millennials and older Gen Z cared about Overwatch. Blizzard shoved that audience away.
@@mittag983 yeah they pushed away every type of player they had, casual and competitive. shame, their character designs are top notch, aesthetic wise.
@@ikhalid1418 I agree, besides Junkrat. He looks strange and cluttered to me. Reminds me of a Tumblr OC. Mei is a great design though, Tracer too. But they are wasted.
End of ow1 was insanely better then end of ow2
Title of video OVERWATCH IS COOKED
Author of video "overwatch is still doing fine"
also tho
make an attractive character: give them new skins> free money
is insanely wise and everyone should heed this
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As someone who played all of Blizzards older games at length, I'd say their best game ever is WoW and the first two expansions, followed by Diablo 2.
The devs took everything wrong with overwatch and made it better, overwatch is done for
You have to admit it's much uglier than release OW
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Agreed
Hero shooter games thrive on the amount of new playerbase to come into a game. Once noobies becomes "too good" they drive away new players because nobody wants to lose 100 games before a win. Essentially Rivals cut off the life support for OW. Diehard OW players will get more and more sweaty and the barrier of entry for OW will be too high. If Rivals can stay new player friendly for a year or so OW will be locked into the live service death spiral.
Low player base -> less revenue -> less development budget -> less player retention -> lower revenue.
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Hey chat my dad was telling me a story right so one of his co workers goes oh yeh my son plays video games and my dad said yeh mine too and said my son plays marvel rivals and my dad said my son plays marvel rivals too and he is really good and obviously my dad knows me and chris so plays slow right? He says what hero does he play and he not even kidding says black panther right? and obviously my dad holds his cards to his thing right, and he reveals, my son is the best black panther in the world
I love Reed he’s so fun an can tank a lot but I think they need to make him a Tank he’d be really good
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Let's not forget that netease buy license marvel character, to make it as a hero shooter game, all hero design, lore, etc must be approved by marvel
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Based takes. Overwatch will just always feel like wasted potential to me. Poor balance ruined the esports scene, OW2 ruined the gameplay we all loved, and there were 3-4 characters straight that just missed the mark, and then the health and hitbox changes for a cherry on top. Idk maybe its just me but i get ticked off thinking about what OW couldve been compared to what it became.
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ok but no way he fr said reed needs buffs loool
tbh i think the only thing OW has rn over MR is the hero design. You can argue some heroes are broken, not balanced, ruined the meta, etc. But you cant argue OW heroes feel worse to play from a technical standpoint. Even the “worst” or most boring heroes feel incredibly, meticulously created. MR has fun heroes dont get me wrong, but the technical feel of the heroes just dont have that level of depth OW heroes do. That’s why releases are much slower, and I hope OW doesn’t try to increase the amount of heroes they release because they would undermining what many love about the game, pretty much the only thing the community can agree on.
Unfortunately, they have nothing else. Balance is trash, art team has gotten considerably worse. I cannot take people seriously when they say OW has the best art and skins, they do not LOL. The skins have actually gotten worse, MR has a much cleaner art team.
MR has a lot of bugs, OW2 has actually gotten worse with bugs. OW1 ran flawlessly, the new team has spaghetti code. BP is pretty mid too. New game modes haven’t been that fun. I like the new matchmaking and ranked system. Too many gamemodes, features that are still missing from OW1. Less clear design philosophy and direction. Devs are lost, unsure what to do. Their lack of experience is showing a lot.
nah BP is 10x better than genji and dps doom just pure dopamine hit. the only boring hero in rivals is peni parker while in OW there is mauga, orisa, mei, mccree and more. even the mccree clone in MR (hela) is more fun with glide and omni directional dash instead of a stupid roll.
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honestly, glad to see the legend adapt to this and leave OW behind
Overwatch might not be a failure but OW2 was. If you bring out a sequel and lose more players than you recruit thats failure, especially on a f2p model.
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Now we need overwatch to team up with DC to get a true competitor cause right now marvel rivals is unmatched in terms of player retention. Most dps players of ow2 left for rivals now i see 10min q for healers (most mercy mains don't want to switch cause of skill issue)
Doesn't overwatch also have entire comic series to pull from? Plus this is only really true if they weren't just pulling concepts out of a hat lol
Like hazard was then pulling Adam smasher and David from cyberpunk...
Venture was them pulling archeologist... thats literally it...
Illari is like superman and wonderwoman combined...
And juno is actually pretty unique, junos like peak ow design and deserved a cinematic... speaking of which, they quit doing those so honestly with the quality they're putting in lately, they may as well start putting marvel heros inna hat and pulling them out for their backstory as well.. doubt anyone would notice, than pay some guy on fiver 50$ to make a cool design... I bet I could plop out 10 character designs, pay 500$ and have them all ready in under a month an theyd be on par if not better than their latest designs.
And there's also something to be said about being forced into a creative box, I mean when you do this you sometimes end up with mauga where the hero didn't fit the kit so they created a new entire character quickly which just goes to show how easy it kinda is tbh, but thats how we got sigma.. one of the modt well written heros I might add and he was speed run lol, but than they tried mauga again and created the single worse hero design since brig... so if your hero design is sue storm well you now gotta fit invis, force field's and telekinesis into the same kit and have it function well without breaking the game like mauga, and that's harder than people are given credit for considering they're like 32 for 35 on their designs, their worst designs aren't even as mad as ows semi inoffensive designs... so really I wouldn't say thats the biggest advantage, now the fact that they can drop Dr doom in 3 years and potentially hit a new peek player count because all these heros have established fan bases already is a massive advantage, can't deny that 😂 But that's just why rivals will likely still be around in 10 years now
mauga was teased to be released in 2019 and then finally released in 2023 with a super boring kit
@yanderenjoyer no he meant to be sigma... look it up, they pivoted the design once they realised how actually hard it can be to design a kit for a hero.. they didn't than try again with the next tank release or the next or the next... they finally decide to male it tho, likely because they already had the model made from when they tried with sigma, but because the design is so basic with only a few key features, it makes it pretty hard to actually design a kit around him that's interesting.
Meanwhile the mr devs are making these marvel heros as if they're making them like ow makes juno or venture where they get to shape the hero around the kit... I would actually say these marvel heros feel more like their designs that juno or venture.. but no one wants to praise that right? Just mindlessly state that it's harder to do one than the other without any knowledge of what it takes at all just to attempt to justify why blizz is so scummy and lazy 😂
@yanderenjoyer I mean why don't thry just continue taking marvel hero concepts and turning them into ow heros? Like widowmaker being exactly like blackwidow... or winston being a mash up of iron man and the hulk, I mean guy who runs a super hero organization, builds his own tech to fight others while getting bigger and stronger the angrier he gets... or soldier being captain America where he's the super soldier that dresses in red white and blue and dies only to turn out he didn't die... like I'm not knocking ow entirely for this, things take inspiration but like cmon... is it really that hard to just take inspiration from other things to make a hero design? Just like how the whole junkercity is mad max or hazard and sombra are based off cyberpunk... really don't think it's a huge task to just brain storm some hero concepts like this and than both parties gotta design a character model still and given mr does their own spins on the heros designs that honestly are better than the originals... except wolverine... I'll admit they dropped the ball on him... dudes having a mid life crisis in his 200s 😂
But like seriously, the only disparity here is their creativity which I would think thats the funnest part... I often used to sit here as an artist, drawing ow concepts for fun... an I don't even get paid for it...
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Never in my life have I disagreed with your takes. Have no idea how you're pretending to have fun playing such a POS game. I thought you appreciated good movement. Everything about marvel feels terrible to play and is not fun compared to OW. This game is new and people are still upset with Blizzard that's it. The marvel bandwagon makes no sense beyond that. Glad you acknowledged that the movement isn't fun and its great to watch you again man - we've missed you!
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The counter to this would have been the pve mode for overwatch 2. How to screw the pooch 101. All this by a free to play game less then 3 months old. Downfall deserved.
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Unironically what's stopping Marvel Rivals from just ending up like Overwatch? The only thing I could see it surpassing is if it had PVE. I honestly think there's too much shit on the screen for me to get into the game competitively.
IQ gap and development team size.
Activision gave a blank check and infinite resources to the Overwatch team to do more content, but the team decided to keep it small due to their egos and the fear that they would become a yearly COD slop type game. Welp now their game is dead.
On the other hand, NetEase will push so much more Rivals content and they are not afraid of becoming too bloated in the process
I always thought artists were only a small amount of a game's budget, but apparently it makes up a pretty sizable chunk, so he might be right.
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Marvel Rivals is doing really good, but its not that Easy just cause of Marvel IP, Gameplay needs to be good, and it is... but Characters Design also needs to be good, otherwise they could find themselves on the Concord way...
nothing ever lasts for ever, but ow should have lasted longer
Bro the game is trash I’m sorry but it is.it’s 2025 u can’t be making trash they still have a chance their the best at the first person hero so far so if they don’t actually pick it up first person players are gone
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league actually has not 130 but 170 champs 🤓It's way too much lol
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overwatch has more pronouns than players
they should worry abt how it looks lol Cap and Moon Knight got that disgusting tacticool shit lol just adapt them from the comics
Brother has basically made the same video like 6 times now