Gabby Williams Put the WNBA On Blast!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Robin reacts to interesting comments from Gabby Williams regarding why she doesn't always play in the WNBA.
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Some good players in this league . Fevers retiring president just said CC asked for visiting teams to get a bonus from increased gate receipts at the venues. That's very savvy and generous consideration of all in the player community from a kid they blatantly want to hurt . Makes no sense, but one hopes the players in this league become aware of this and the sort of human being CC is . Her parents did a bloody fantastic job imo . She really is the complete package
Nurture is where you learn, but Nature reveals the Character.
I would definitely say the wnba is lacking in leadership and also officiating is subpar. They really need to address these things if they want to be viewed seriously
I wish the NBA stopped subsidizing this league. Then we will see what the players are actually worth because currently they are way over paid yet want more.
Here is the thing, to grow salaries, you need to grow your audience. The WNBA is determined not to grow their audience. It seems they want to reduce their audience based on race, politics and ideology.
WNBA players devoid of logic. They think low TV rating + complaining = million dollar contract
It's been a welfare league since it's inception.
A toxic workplace couldn’t pay enough to keep good players.
@@alxbolt6225 The LBGTQ controlled WNBA don't care as long as CC is not the face of thier WNBA LBGTQ agenda , just look at the PARIS Olympics . CC does not fit the peofile being a straight white girl . Problem I see coming is there future is really controlled by MUMS DADS whose DAUGHTERS want to be CC not a nasty vicious Lesbian . Normal parent hopes thier daughter becomes a mother and a wife to a husband and a father . LBGTQ seem to have forgotten that . Maybe NBA funds and Media contracts should be reassessed by parties imo
Maybe they should have went to class and actually got an education they seem to really really need education on many levels,MANY LEVELS
She communicates very well. A lot of thoughtfulness and intelligence behind her comments. I wish her well.
Looking at comments on other pages it was quite frustrating seeing how many people had no idea what she was actually talking about and labeled her as whining about pay. When pointed out they kept with their narrative. The internet is so painful sometimes 😂 you find an articulate person explaining something well and people still insist on taking them to task for something they aren’t even saying.
@@PhlibbertyThe salary is determined by the CBA. Unless CBA redone, teams can’t pay players more than what they pay now. WTH is point of complaining. Either she’s clued or just likes to stir up the pot, how about be quiet and play hard in WNBA and make it more popular so the league can actually be profitable and afford to pay higher salaries
@@CodyCha because she is talking about why she plays overseas. About why the W can’t complain about people playing overseas. About how the W hasn’t been truthful about what they say the pay is I the W.
She’s well aware of how to grow the league and how pay can get higher. That’s not what the was asked. It’s about the prioritization rule.
@@Phlibberty Everyone knows what WNBA can pay. The MAX salary is inked in the CBA -- the players agreed to it. In order to grow WNBA, you have to prioritize the WNBA. WNBA players want rewards without effort.
@@CodyCha that’s exactly why they shouldn’t have the prioritization rule.
Have you at all noticed a change in the players attitudes while they play international ball? Perhaps, and this is just spitballing, but maybe the reason the international leagues in France, Poland, or Turkey, they all seem to have a reasonable fan base and are profitable. I wonder if it is because they tend to focus on basketball rather than activism?
Simple. Men watch sports, not women. 90% of WNBA players are rainbow people who hates their fans and the country.
Please. The whole purpose for the WNBA is the ideology. Why would anyone, especially savvy business people who have a plethora of successful businesses like the NBA and WNBA owners keep a league going for 28 years unless it had another purpose, activism. It is not a business or even a sport it has failed at both but it exists to push and ideology and it's agenda and propaganda. That is why so many of their decisions seem so upside down to the normal viewer not understanding the league's real purpose. Clark with her popularity and corporate endorsements would organically change the culture of the league and so you see them resisting that change even being willing to sink the ship to keep the change from happening. It makes no sense unless one understands the actual purpose of the league. Trust me the European leagues are just a woke and play just as dirty as the WNBA. All of their actions are to tag her and her fans as R'ists as a tactic to silence them and marginalize them.
Maybe not put the cart before the horse. You have to prove yourself first as St.CC22. I get the old dogs wanna test the new pup, but there is a point when "trial by fire" is an all-out aggression to stomp someone out.
@@RalphKetchum Sounds like the MAGA GOP but replace "Activism" with "Repression".
Different things are popular in different places. Soccer is number one, but not here.
They also need to produce the revenue as well to warrant the bigger paychecks.
Fair comments
Good player
All fair points about the salaries. The WNBA only owns 42% of the league, so it will be a long journey. On the other hand, why is she responding to people on the internet?
Attention, Attention to most women is like gasoline to a combustion engine.
So you are willing to play for less money…why would they pay you more if you are willing to take less. You have to say no and accept the consequences…
Did you not hear her, the trade-off for less pay? She already addressed it.
All disrespect intended, the league is garbage.. it's unwatchable you can continue to pretend it's good but it's not
Love this lady. ...stop complaining and leave the country... "I did"..LMAO
They want more money
But want less fans or wanna choose the fans
Also haye on the player
Making the league bigger
Make up your mind
Having money without an audience is kind of impossible
G.Williams's problem isn't the pay in W but she's not agree with the "prioritization" rule in W and she's fighting against. Everybody knows that.
The point is... if G.Williams can't do a little effort to shorten her overseas's saeson for 2 or 4 weeks in order to play in W so, she can stay there.
She's half european and can make more money playing overseas. Good for her.
Everybody who's against the "prioritization" rule in W is hostile to the WNBA interest and the growth of the league in USA. Everyone has to know that.
The best fit is the fever. The lady is a leaper, I love leapers. I Love gabby and I want to see her with CC. her scoring will go to the sky with CC.her scoring is more than prolific than Kelsey Mitchell.
She was making more money overseas. Why did she come?😅😂😅smh
Just to take the opportunity to complain about W salaries in front of tv camera because the place she wants to stay to playbb is in US.
3:10 she said "i did... for the last 3 years" but i saw her highlights for these 3 last years in the W😂.
Why she return everytime? Why? 😂. She is so pathetic...
You didn't watch or you chose not to listen. It was answered.
She runs like a gazelle, plays unselfish ball has good defense/midrange and can finish at the rim. WNBA is a trash league that doesn't deserve her or CC for that matter. I also can't stand the types that use CC's name to troll someone that was speaking in favor of what we'd like to see changed in the league to make it better for upcoming talent. The *old guard* don't want these changes because it means their days are numbered.
Big fish in small pond.
During the interview with the ex Fever president, she mentioned that incoming rookies are now saying that they will get their lawyers to look into the contract before signing and the WNBA doesn't like it. Because of what's happened to her, lawyers will probably check the contract in terms of injuries, the responsibilities and what would make the WNBA accountable. They could also check into the officiating by the refs making them accountable through reviews, etc. It's not just CC bringing fans in. Players like Paige Bueckers, Juju Watkins are bringing in new fans too. Cameron Brink will usher in new/er fans where she's probably (or would have been) the real competition to A'ja. These players and organisations should realise to make more money, there need to be competition.
Gabby Williams should get a lawyer and put the promises into a contract, not just lip service.
Everyone is watching Cc and that is it. These women and CC are delusional. CC is the only one pulling in fans and attention. She should be making NBA grade pay and No One Else. Fair? I do not think they know what fair means.
Saw Gabby Williams at Olympics. Dynamic player like Caitlin.
Well spoken
Who tf is Gabby Williams and why would anyone pay her $700K ?
She wants to get more simply go to the INDIANA FEVER team. You’ll get the stardom and royalties you feel you deserve.
Overlap with St.CC22. Wouldn't work.
@@WH0oo... yes it would just bcz of CC . CC brings more fir each on her team. I don’t meN she would get it bcz if just her alone but bcz she would complimented more with CAITLIN CLARK EFFECT …players need to capitalize off of this instead of WNBA alone
Never heard of Gabby Williams
1. Complain about WNBA.
2. Do things that make the WNBA less likable and therefore less less marketable.
These two don't go together. I will take WNBA players seriously about pay when they STOP doing things that turn fans off - like Assaulting players that are way better than them.
I think I understand your position. But maybe "These two together" amplify the underlying problems inflicting the WNBA management and some of the current and former (now on air) players.
@@WH0oo... I agree. However, the issue with the WNBA leaders (the commissioner, etc) is THE SAME issue that the Democratic Party had when Joe Biden stepped down- the leaders KNOW what NEEDS to be done to have success but they CAN'T do it because they recognize they have a dissident element whose sole focus is their own personal ambitions over and against the long term goals of the group.
Democratic party was threatened to be run to the ground if they didn't select Kamala with NO CONCERN for actually willing and the same group is willing for the WNBA to COLLAPSE rather than have someone of the out group receive ANY positive promotion.
Cathy can only do so much. Look at how they tried to cancel her for simply trying to focus on POSITIVE things instead of internet trolls.
At least Gabby seems to understand the economics of being paid. She stated several times the hard truth about personal choices, contract law including CBAs, which play major roles in her, or anybody's, annual income. This is what is often lost in most discussions about "equal pay". I have owned and managed small businesses that have employees usually under 20, but a few have been larger with more than 20 employees, and there have been times when an employee asks for a raise. My question for the employee has always been what plan do you have for your labor to increase revenue to cover ALL the additional costs associated with your new raise, not just you're personal increase? Because in order for me to give YOU a raise, I have to take revenue coming in from something or someone else to cover all those higher costs of YOUR raise? Who is responsible for increasing the revenue to cover your raise? Of course I rarely get an intelligent, reasoned, economic based answer, only that they NEED (want) more $$$, not understanding that we ALL need or want more $$$ in our own pockets, but it has to come from somewhere or someone. Gabby wants the WNBA to pay more, but I've read articles backed up by financial sources that state that even with all the increases in revenue this year for the WNBA due to the CC effect, its STILL GOING TO LOSE $$$. So again, for Gabby and all the WNBA players, where's the $$$ going to come from to cover the costs to justify an increase in player salaries, especially when their BEHAVIORS on and off the court are driving PAYING CUSTOMERS away, hindering sponsorships and corporate/media investment? Right now the ONLY DRAW is CC so who should get the INCREASE in Salary from the W? Everyone? Or only the PLAYER who is ACTUALLY increasing REVENUE? Even media deals are going to be limited since without CC the ratings TANK.
I appreciate how you're helping your Clark fans spread their engagement to other players . . .
1. Engelbert funked up. She won the lottery, but lost the ticket. (simple soundbite)
2. Current and former "welfare queen" athletes, it seems, had a predetermined narrative as to who gets awards, selected for the Olympics, MVP, and etc.
3. A dog whistle shrill "welcome her to the 'real big girls' league" message was broadcast. A full assault on and off the court waged throughout the season.
4. St.CC22 was underrated, underestimated, and undervalued.
5 .St.CC22 is unquestionably an amazing athlete to watch but her strength of character in the face of expectations and hate, is exemplary, a role model for All.
6. For the Athlete of the Year (US), she has my vote. She might not have won championships, yet, but she has won the hearts of millions. And that cannot be bought.
Note: St = Saint, referring St.Sebastian.
So a player gets $70,000 a year. Half of that goes towards federal tax, state taxes and their agent. They take home between 30-35,OOO a year. I made more as a Pizza Hut manager than they do.
But, I did work 40 hours a week, where the average WNBA player works 20 hours a week and only play 40 games.
I can’t stand listening to players complain about pay after a season of tearing down the most popular player in the league, fighting the growth she brought. You make more overseas because those leagues don’t have salary caps and the rich owners overpay for the talent they can’t get at home. Also playing for Russian oligarchs doesn’t mean those leagues are better organized it just means you don’t care where the money comes from as long as you get paid. IMO it’s gross. Also she didn’t play for a French league she played in a Turkish league. I won’t comment on the leadership of Turkey or the corruption there you can look it up yourself
Yes expose wnba. She's very eloquent and pretty and as a CC fan, I hope wnba gets better because CC loves her job so much😢
She's one of the smartest women in pro sports, and that's why she will be marginalized. Labor theory of value. The players make the league, not the executives.
She's not a NBA player. You're confused with the wrong league 😂
@@CodyCha Wrong. Just not every year.
Well if you feel that way stay there we won't miss you here, it just makes room for someone who is grateful for playing here.🤔
So she called the WNBA a paupers league?
75k for St.CC22 is called labor exploitation.
wtf upi ean wild.
fk eveyone is loosing money. till CC
get back to reality.
People seem to be missing her point. Her point t is that she was told that the money would be better so she decided to play elsewhere.
yeah, the W\NBA was going bust. lol
and talking about money at the same time. lol
why do we care about teams, lol
non of the teamates care lol wtf. bull shittttt gamesss, its not games, just entertainment.
A league that goes out of their way to call us racists... yeah, not watchin.
She’s smart need her in the union to negotiate the new cba
Good for you Abby. You do what’s good for you
If they want to really keep it 100, speak out about coaches and administrators making way more money than the highest paid players in an unprofitable league. Top player is paid 250K, worst coach (Sides) paid 500K. The argument for W coaches is that they have to keep up with NCAA salaries and googling that was eye opening. I didn't know any NCAA womens coach outside the top 10 (Geno, Liz, Mulkey). The womens coach of my state school makes $1 mil/yr and she was/is a nobody, came from a smaller school and achieved nothing. I wonder why my tax dollars are going toward her salary that gets less views than the WNBA. The W players have no leverage because their comparison are NCAA players, where very few get big NIL money. The women are still in their 'plumbers' era, but unlike the men, the coaches never made more than the players. Phil Jackson with 4 titles at the time had to fight to get a pay bump with a GM that said organizations win chips.
You don't seem to understand basic economics. Those school programs generate huge revenue. They also get millions in donations and boosters. UConn Basketball generated $47 in 2023. Average WNBA team generated $4-$10 million in 2023.
@@CodyCha Reading comprehension is a weak point for you, I forgive you. I clearly was excluding the top programs, read 'outside the top 10' Geno i.e. UConn, and focusing on awful programs that pay their coaches 500K and up. These other schools, like most of the NCAA, are getting welfare from a combination of the Mens Hoops and/or football program or the taxpayer in state schools. This welfare is not exclusive to gender as mens lacrosse, polo and other ritzy sports with no fan base get subsidized by the 3 sources I stated.
@@chadog900 ANY school paying million to a coach is generating tens of million in revenue from the athletic department. Their salary is *not* coming from tax money. If you want to make a point, give a specific example with numbers
@@CodyCha Please keep deviating from my points by speaking in terms of accounting allocation gimmicks. The revenue of the athletic department at almost every school is derived primarily from MENS HOOPS AND/OR FOOTBALL. Other sports including womens hoops leech from the labor of those 2 sports. It is due to this welfare that coaches of womens NCAA programs get bloated salaries. As a result, this increases leverage of coaches in the WNBA, a welfare recipient of the NBA. When tuitions go up at all these schools and property tax multipliers, it's not purely to pay professors, the accounting shuffle of funds go to other departments including non revenue generating athletics, this is how the tax payer gets hit. A lot of words to read and comprehend, I know. I apologize.
@@chadog900 the athletic department can spend the money however they like. It's their job is to fund all the programs. The point is they HAVE THE MONEY to spend. WNBA DO NOT have the money. Sir, do you have a specific example of a school athletics that DO NOT generate mullions in revenue but still pays a coach million in salary???
Good for Gabby Williams!!!
Robin, This is a much more involved conversation and deserves a lengthy article from you.
The WNBA has a critical lack of leadership at the top and the difference between Adam Silver and
Cathy Engelbert is stark.
Engelbert is a leader lacking vision and is out of touch with the day to day operations and messaging of the WNBA. This video is a prime example that WNBA players don’t see Engelbert as credible.
Engelbert’s failure to be forthcoming regarding the ugly side of fans and media consistently forces the WNBPA to issue to statements condemning certain situations.
(And I do believe Christine Brennan was very unprofessional and deserved the statement issued by the WNBPA).
Engelbert has failed to properly address the quality of referees.
Engelbert failed work with the USA Basketball Women's selection committee behind the scenes to ensure Clark and Reese were on that team.
If Clark and Reese are the future of the WNBA, any leader with vision would have ensured Jen Rizzoti reserved 2 spots on that team to show where the league is going. This was a MAJOR leadership fail. Playing time is not a factor for such an honor and a strong leader would have never allowed that messaging to come out.
Do you think Adam Silver would allow the Olympic committee to be so short sighted and miss out on such a strategic marketing opportunity? HELL NO.
NBA has a 50% ownership of the WNBA and with that much of an investment it’s time Adam Silver is far more directly involved with the direction of the WNBA. I could on and give you countless examples of Engelbert’s failure as a leader, but I’m sure you are aware of them.
Adam Silver is just an employ of NBA. He doesn't control or have power over NBA or WNBA. It's the NBA owners and investors who does not care about how WNBA fares.
Seriously these players are delusional. Rating is only for cc. No one watches rest of the people.
This is hilarious. A player that can't make an open jump shot, a player who is quite mid in the US complaining about more money. This girl for the most part, has been a wnba bust. Truth is, there's probably about 10 -15 players in the league that actually deserves more money
The rest have a purpose like yourself. Don't you think?
Over seas ain’t the USA! Nobody will care where she plays!
Basket has more fans overseas than WNBA before Caitlin and America isn't the world... Gabby is more known than Aja... 😂😂..
Get her outta here she sucked for the Storm in the playoffs. Gtfo talking about money
Turkey? Fkn Turkey?
Doner kebabs for the win!
She's right, while being wrong. They signed the collective barging contract. Stop crying about the stipulations in it.
The WNBA and various other International teams have different obstacle to contend with, and they are not at all the same. To just suggest it's women's basketball is misleading.
I don’t think she’s crying about it she’s just saying she has an option to make more money so why not take it. It’s business like she said. But she’s also putting the success of the business entirely on the management and commissioner and missing how much the players impact their own salaries and fate of the business with their media presence
Average American salary for busting our asses every day: $59,000 per year
Average WNBA salary for playing a game 4 months of the year: $115,000 per year
Quit crying.
Fallacy logic. In Capitalism, you're pay over time is relative to how much revenue a person generates to the business.
@@WH0oo...In theory maybe. (Congratulations on being born yesterday, by the way.)
In reality, during the Long Economic Boom (1945-1980) CEO wages were about 40X what the workers' wages were and whenever CEO wages rose so did worker wages. Then Milton Friedman instituted his "Trickle Down Economics" boondoggle and _suddenly_ the workers' wages remained static while the CEOs' salaries continued to blow up, to the point that the CEOs' now make *350X* what the workers do.
Capitalism is a system in which the cream does NOT rise to the top, but sh*t most definitely floats.
@@WH0oo... Robin doesn't want you to know that Milton was a KIKE. And now we're done, Lundberg, ya' fucking shill.
That don’t make any sense because WNBA don’t even play when 95% of the other league are playing so they still have plenty of time and opportunity to do both
Personally, I don't want international players in the W, which is an American league. As if there aren't enough homegrown athletes. Gabby is a great player but she can leave!!
She comes back to WNBA just to complain. She already knows the CBA and salary situation hasn’t changed. I just hate players complaining about salary when the league isn’t profitable (yet).
she didn't complain, she said it is what it is, she's getting better pay elsewhere and go there. WNBA isn't profitable, and now that they have a chance to make it, they hate the single player drawing ALL the viewers, and want her and her fans gone... they really don't want to get higher salaries. Gabby came to Storm because they asked if she could help them and she likes playing with them, she's leaving again because it was a 7 day contract. And travel to greener pastures... BTW .. she does get her 700k in Fenerbahçe i will assume, just tough luck WNBA has a cap that limits them to max contracts up to 300k, and rookie deals up to 70k. If you can choose, you would go where the pay is better too.. we all would.
@@robertdelange2071 no, she does not make $700k in Turkish league. You would have to go to China or Russia for that kind of money. Nobody knew who she was till the Olympics. The big $$$ overseas are reserved for big names from USA.
@@robertdelange2071 Just found out the Turkish league only play 26 games. I think Gabby only make $300k max but she would make a lot more than WNBA max on per game basis.
People keep talking about the league revenue, which yes, is low, but why is that?
How can the country which has dominated the gold at the last 8 Olympics in basketball be so far behind the rest of the world?
It’s not the players, we obviously have the best so how come a rookie like Cardosa get a million dollars to play in China? Williams I’m sure makes more in Turkey. Hell, DT was offered twice her W salary when her season was done overseas to not play in the W.
So why is women’s basketball so popular that those kinds of salaries be paid around the globe?
That’s the question we need to be asking. We’re doing something wrong over here.
Women's basketball is not popular, evident by ticket sales and TV rating. In other words, nobody watched WNBA or bought tickets. That only changed this year with Caitlin Clark. Winning gold medal or being dominate does not equal to being popular. Simone Biles is the most dominate gymnast ever. Do you know anyone who watch her compete outside of the Olympics?
@@CodyCha
Yeah but in Europe and elsewhere basket is popular. Their professional leagues seasons are longer than ours. Why is that?
@@Barto-p4k Turkish league plays only 28 games (vs 40 in WNBA). I think United States just have far more options for people to consume. The women's basketball league in Turkey is the 3rd most popular sports in the country behind the soccer league and men's bball. In the US, WNBA would not even make the Top 10 if you include college sports.
The main reason is men watch sports, not women. But 90% WNBA players are people who aren't into men 😂and openly profess to hate men, fair skinned folk, and the country.
that hair still bothers me
Clark should just pay a couple players like Gabby to come to the fever and stay under the salary cap and stack the team. She easily makes enough and the investment would pay off in more wins / championships .
The Aces do it, other teams or players should too
It’s against CBA
Gibs me 'dat: French edition.