I find it so funny that Meredith said she was a broke college student (using a $50 foundation btw) and uses her fingers because a sponge wasted too much product..... and then proceeds to put on half a bottle at a time.... cracks me up every time I think of it hahaha
@@allisonlouie1202 nope snd ELF just used her for the O Face lipstick campaign. I'm kinda upset cause I love ELF and she's never once used them in a vid I've seen.
@@fannyboni472 not trying to be rude at all, but it's freckles. Unless she has incredibly dark, patchy freckles, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to use THAT much foundation. But whatever floats her boat.
Full disclosure: a week ago I tried Meredith’s “technique” just because I had been judging it hardcore and felt like maybe I should try it before I judge lol. Anyway, I gave it a go and used about 5x more foundation than I usually use and to be honest it looked nice…AT FIRST. But after a few hours it was simply DISGUSTING! It caked up and showed lines I didn’t even know I had and when I tried to pat some of my oilier areas later in the day, the foundation literally just patched off. Felt gross, ended up looking gross, and now I feel validated in my judgement 😂😂.
i cant believe you tried this 😅 if your foundation had spf, congrats though, youve had the sun protection level you needed. cause thats how much you have to apply to get the spf benefits 😊😂
I tried her ‘’technique’’ except I used a very small amount of foundation. There is a HUGE difference between makeup for social media and everyday makeup. She puts on that much and doesn’t care because she sits in front of a camera and bright studio lights all day. Just my opinion!
She applied that foundation like a thick moisturizer and then acted shocked that it didn't look good. That video has millions of views and people listen to her, that's not fair to the brand or the product.
Or the younger people watching who think that is how to apply foundation! It is stupid, and super rude to any brands she "reviews" and not telling viewers that in real life and light 9 tons of foundation always looks bad is just, well irresponsible. (Again) I'm sure if I had actually watched her before, I wouldn't bother to comment because she'd block me too. 😂
The issue is not the technic, but the amount of product she applies, I think. I know a bunch of light coverage foundations, that can be applied using our fingers, but you don't need a ton of product to achieve a good result.
To be fair why do they have the word “foundation” on it when it doesn’t really work as a regular foundation (it’s more like a skin tint/tinted moisturizer). I get that it’s supposed to be a play on word, hence the “what the” but still, having the word foundation on it doesn’t seem to be a smart marketing move. What the girl did with it was still stupid though lmao
I don't even apply HALF of what she applied in foundation, as a moisturizer. That IS ABSURD! I feel like her common sense is out the window. You would KNOW BETTER if you are actually a Makeup Artist....
When you said she’s blocked you on everything 😂 love it! She’s not a real mua. She’s also not quite the friendliest. She came into my job (Morphe) to promote the blush and was way too full of herself. The fame got to her and she did not say one word to us employees who set up the store btw very nicely to welcome her.
A lot of self taught muas I know are humblier. The point is to be humbly enough to know how to learn more. You don't know everything, so you would rather keep up with the formation. I am a school mua, and keep learning. Everyday.
What you stated on Meredith’s foundation application was excellently stated. The product was never meant to be applied in such manner… solely for viral purposes.
I believe she recently did it with a Bobbi Brown foundation and she did the same things back by rubbing products on her face. That’s just not the way to apply some foundations, I She does it that way.. but I also think it’s kinda wasteful.
I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying over his comment and the way he said it . I actually came to the comment section to see if anyone else feels the same way. And me too one of the reasons why I love him so much, his brutal honesty. But I have to admit I've felt that way before about children when I was younger.😂
I, too, feel his disdain on this one. I don't care for kids either. They're not cute, on the whole. I can count on one hand the number of kids I've encountered and liked/found cute. And I'm 38! Yet they have a tendency to flock to me - like cats to folk who are allergic to them😂
Meredith said "I really wanted to like it." She was never going to like it because it's not the kind of product she likes. It's very natural, light coverage. She was never gonna like it and she knew that. She just wanted to make a viral video...and it worked
I wonder if she used something under that foundation, because too much skincare, or if you don't wait enough to start the makeup, you can have the same result she had.
I thought this too at first and then I saw a video that sort of clicked with me, the PR team sent her this product and when you send a product out you should know that there is a chance that the people you send it to will not like the product. Obviously everyone knows how Meredith does her makeup and she wasn’t the target audience for this product however the PR team still sent her the product knowing how big her audience is and that she would more than likely not use the product as it is intended. I don’t know if it was the lack of research on their end or what it was but there is always a chance that the review could be negative and she it wasn’t her fault that the product didn’t work for her. I am aware how the product should be used and I was annoyed too when I first saw it but at that point why would they send it someone who does their makeup in such a different way than the product is intended for? Just another perspective to look at it 😁
@@sarafjones0497 The thing is, that Jones Road didn't send her the product (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I saw Bobbi Brown herself saying it somewhere), she bought it herself knowing very well it's not for her.
i replayed back the video and im confident to say the false lashes were already on. Maybe theres an actual tiktok of her doin it, but in this video is was fake.
@Matthew Curlee *I'm fairly sure that he has said before that he does youtube full time now. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure he's said that on a video before.*
When I first saw Meredith's video, as a fellow MUA myself, I was quaking! She's seriously convinced that she is 100% correct and the REAL MUA's are wrong
I personally stop listening as soon as someone starts telling me the only "right" way to do something regardless of their credentials. It reminds me of my art teacher who said we should "think INSIDE the box" and would actually take a pencil/brush out of your hand and start "fixing" your art 💀 some people need to feel in control of everything, including other people's creativity.
That’s odd. I do watch her and she preaches doing makeup however you want and has started that this is how she like to do hers. I haven’t watched every single video but of the dozens and dozens that I have, I’ve never seen her pushing techniques on anyone. She doesn’t even teach. They’re all Get Ready With Me and she’s just chatting like one would with a friend.
Really? To me it felt like a comedy skit almost. Like the ridiculousness of the situation that she dips her face into the foundation and then blames the product for why it looks bad. I don't believe people are that oblivious and un-self-aware. 👀
I literally bought the Jones Road makeup BECAUSE of Meredith's ridiculous "reviews." Everything she complained about was just what I want from a foundation product. The product is just what I look for. I have very dry skin and hate full coverage. It does have a smell in the jar that smells very floral, it disapates on the skin. It's very light coverage. I loathe the masks that beauty influencers insist on slathering on their (blemish and texture free in many cases) faces. It's a waste of product and encourages younger people to feel that they NEED to apply that much product in order to look good.
Hah, same! I have combination skin so I don't think it would necessarily work all over my face, but the main thing I want is to even up the tone on my cheeks and forehead without needing a full coverage foundation all over so it sounds exactly like what I need. It's not going to be for everyone, but if someone is touting themselves as the 'foundation queen' then they honestly should have a better understanding that different types of foundation are for different situations and applications. I honestly wouldn't trust Meredith's videos for anymore than entertainment, they're not reviews at all.
I started to do my makeup when I was 12/13 for school because I wanted to fit in and be like the other girls. When I was 15 I remember going into shops buying the cheapest stuff I could find to fit in even more: eyeliner, blush, a matte foundation. And for a while that's what I'd do. Use a lot of product. Until last year I couldn't care less and started to change. I did more foundationless makeup, started using better stuff for my face. I went from full coverage to less to now a bit in the middle. I had a period when a ton of pimples decided to show up around my mouth so I started using foundation again to cover them and found the best for me. I've always been the girl with the pretty makeup. Hell even one teacher came up to me to congratulate me on how my makeup looked after 6 hours of school. What I'm trying to say it's that what came from the need to fit in became my passion. I use makeup as a form of art. To express myself. I sometimes post my looks on Instagram if anybody's interested in visual proof. Btw since doing my makeup more and in more diversified ways I learnt to truly appreciate the art of it and use.
Exactly the reasons I would buy a product. I have dry skin and also don't want full coverage. But, I also never wear makeup, so won't buy it because of that. I never wear makeup and when she started complaining about it, my eyes pooped out of my head and I was like "you f***ing caked it on!" It isn't fair to the product for someone to quite obviously use the product wrong and then complain about it. It's also telling that she blocked Robert, she obviously doesn't like being told she's wrong either.
If I had the money I would buy it too-I like lighter complexion products for every day wear. Right now I’m using maybelline’s BB cream and I actually like it (I hadn’t used it in 10 years).
My goodness the Melt Lipstick parody followed by "Meredith has blocked me on most platforms" is the level of petty snark I aspire to 😂 And following up with genuine education on not just make up but good business practice just shows the heart we love too x
If she did block you on social media, it tells me that she isn't open to learning or growing. But that's just my opinion. As for the little girl I'm glad that her mom is allowing her to develop her artistry with makeup and encouraging her to do so. The eye look was very good.🖤
@@RobertWelsh Yea! The blush and contour was very soft and youthful. She holds the brush kind of high but she has plenty of control so it's not a problem. She'll learn more dexterity as she gets older.
@@Selene_Rosara considering she's 5 years old, and most first graders aren't able to even cut paper or draw their own hands with that kind of precision, she is extremely talented for holding the brush the way she does. i know people in my own family who use two to three fingers just to hold pencils
@@ibugfishi now I'm curious about how many fingers you use to hold a pencil. 😂🖤 Her age isn't really a consideration for me except to say that she's already incredibly talented and has a supportive mom who is encouraging her to grow. Not everyone has that. 🖤
@@Selene_Rosara i use one finger and my thumb- i hold it between those fingertips and my middle finger tends to steady the pencil. i've seen a lot of my family members hold their pencils with the tips of all their fingers and its interesting since i always thought everyone holds it the same way i do
Nobody puts foundation on like that. She made herself look like a fool. Glad I've never seen her before this. You give the best reactions always Robert!!
*I* first saw her in a Johnny Ross short : "Barbara Follows a br|Derryeredith Tutorial" ... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ... neither Robert nor Johnny were being _mean_ critical, they were both using parody to lightheartedly poke fun @ the parts of her content where legit criticism _is warranted_ ... blocking either of them *for THAT* ?!?? actually says quite a bit abt _her_
I kind of agree - and because, Robert was fully respectful of her, in his commentary...like he pretty much is toward everybody...so to me and for these reasons, I think Meredith was rude and that it was mean of her to do that
As someone with a deep skin tone, I appreciate your calling out the extent to which we are still largely ignored by the majority of brands or offered just any old crap, so they can claim inclusivity. Also, you're one of the few who "gets it" and whom I would actually trust to do it properly. Hope someday soon I'll be ordering a cute little package with a fancy RW MUA on the label.
I'm so passionate about this issue (my family/friends are sick of my rants!). I'm not a woman of colour (my skin is basically translucent....) and I'm not pretending I understand what you and others go through or have it the same by any means. I'm so sorry you have to go through this crap. When I started getting into makeup, I noticed how rubbish the shade availability is for very fair women but then I saw how much worse it is on the other end of the shade spectrum. It's pathetic. Plus in Australia where I live, most stores don't even stock the full shade range. It's just all the various shades of beige in the middle that basically all look the same. It sends an unacceptable message that certain customers are valued over others and other racist assumptions (as well as what skin tone is deemed desirable - white skin that tans or is false tanned). There's just honestly NO excuse anymore! We ride at dawn!
@@hannahbradshaw2186 im medium, and it's ridiculous how many brands just put out straight up orange or cartoon red undertones or used to stop a few shades lighter and say they'll develop darker colors later. also!! you pasty girlies would have similar problems from what ive heard with brands starting too dark with the same damned orange undertones :(
I agree about the Jone’s Road foundation application. First of all, it’s a Bobbi (as in Bobbi Brown) product. Secondly, on her site it even says just to use a little bit. That container is $44 and she took a ton of it…you’d be out of foundation in a week girl! 😂
Yeah, I think people are looking for it to do something different than advertised. I love mine and her miracle balms but I’m not looking for full coverage or using giant globs of it
Well she probably gets alot of these foundations for free in Pr also. Unless your just rich your not gonna use so much like that on a normal look anyway. She's just wasting and it really doesn't make sense. These foundations are not meant to use half the container at one time so of course it's not going to apply correctly or look good lol. I don't get why she does this really. I would die just from the mess of it! 😂
It’s definitely for sheer coverage, skin like use, not a full coverage foundation. It doesn’t make sense that Bobbi from Bobbi Brown would put her name on a crap product.
Whoa wait, it’s a Bobbi Brown product?? Oh my god I’m getting it. I’ve wanted it for a while now but I wasn’t sure bc I just feel so sad when I buy makeup online and I end up hating it. I live in California and my skin is SO dry, girl! Plus I’m in my mid 30s just trying to even out my skin and look hydrated, thriving, etc. Not looking for a full face every day.
Thank you for calling Meredith out! As a fellow makeup artist myself, it really disturbs be to watch it when she tries to pretend that it lasts all day and doesn’t look awful 🙃
I don’t like when “influencers” aren’t fair in their reviews. You can try a product, it can be totally NOT for you but generally there’s still a population it will work for. If you’re not educated well enough to make the proper reviews/suggestions you shouldn’t 🤷🏻♀️ I completely agree with your comments here Robert!
its kinda the same wave that happened a while ago when western influencers tried korean make up and were complaining over the "lack of pigment" when korean make up isnt suppose to be full face full glam full pigment. its just a wash of colour.... and they reviewed this to their audience applying it like it was suppose to perform like western products
I just watched a great video by Angelica Nyqvist, called It’s Not You It’s Me. She went through products that she hated on her due to her skin or makeup style. She said that they were still good products because the reasons they didn’t work for her they would work great for a lot of other people. I really liked that. I’ve gifted products myself for friends who have dry skin because the products were just too luminous on me.
Anyone else feel like they were low key told off when Robert was addressing Meredith and said "no one will take you seriously when you behave like that" living for the headteacher of MUA vibes!! ❤️🥰
I can totally relate! Former boss: Hey, you wanna see pictures of my new granddaughter ? Me: No. Him: Seriously? Me: Yes. Do you wanna see pics of my dogs?
I'm tired of people like Meredith and Mikayla having 10 million subscribers when all they care about is going viral,views and getting paid. I want HONESTY. The Welsh brothers is the BEST place to get that
Is Mikayla in that group as well (meaning the influencers that are essentially sell outs)? I am on tiktok but I don't really get into makeup tiktok much. However, I got the vibe that people liked and trusted Mikayla (but I could very well be wrong).
See, now I disagree about Mikayla. I find her to be very open and real. She definitely takes advantage of people offering her opportunities, but I haven't seen anything I would consider "sellout" and I've followed her from the very beginning. She started out of her bedroom in her parent's house and it's been clear she just really loves what she's doing and is very grateful for everything. I think people like her bc she is no bullshit. But that's just my take and I don't know her from Adam. 😁
“I really wanted to like it” Meredith started the video very skeptical of the foundation lol. I’m glad you spoke about this, and in such a polite, well knowledgeable, manner. I admire your professionalism when it come to trends and the information you give to those that watch your videos! 💕
That foundation application was absolutely ridiculous. I've seen other videos of people using it and it seems quite nice when used appropriately. Can't wait for your review of it Robert, I truly trust and respect your opinion.
I never wear makeup and even I was like "Girrrrrl no!" when that person glopped half the tub of foundation on her face at once. 😂 And then was SHOCKED it didn't work. Like, you're trying to put two week's worth of foundation on your face, at once, with your fingers, and it didn't work? Shocked. SHOCKED!
and that's why SkinUp is the #1 beauty brand in the world, it doesn't even need to physically exist for it to be the best product(s?) on the market ✌😭💓
As someone that's literally the color of chalk (with a very neutral undertone), I've always wished a company would create a foundation range that had levels like haircolor, with an additive for undertones, so we could just select our own and custom mix.
Doesn't Nyx and L.A. Girl have undertone correctors? At least they use to have. If I remember correctly, they both had white, dark brown, yellow and blue mixers, maybe an orange one too..? I mix my Kim Chi lavender concealer to any foundation that are too warm and it works really well!
Not the idea you have above, but have you tried Lisa Eldridge? Her foundation seems to go to a very light shade. And I believe Wayne goss has a nearly “white” one that he mixes with other others to adjust shades
I have a similar complexion (my sister asked if my concealer shade was clown makeup 😂) and Anastasia Beverly Hills new luminous foundation 100N is a good one, but LA girl has a straight white color corrector as well which I have considered 😂
When I worked for Lancôme I was always so proud that they did so many shades for everyone. They have 5 different levels and about 7 to 9 shades within each type. That foundation she showed is more like a skin tint so there are fewer shades but they still have something for everyone. So often the people working for Lauder ended up putting insane shades on people with deeper or very fair skin tones.
You said “never use tiktok for full reviews” and that gave me hope that there’s still room for beauty content on RUclips from people of all ages and preferences. You are exactly right, and the last video is such a good illustration of that. Much love Robert! 🔮
Wow. Just got to the end of the video and have never seen this creator because I don't go on TikTok much. That was like a chef pouring a whole bottle of vanilla extract into a cake and wondering aloud why it turned out with a weird aftertaste and it wasn't light enough in texture. A makeup artist understands how cream, liquids, powders work on skin. I was offended by the video not by your opinion which was excellent!
Please Robert, don't apologize for saying your opinion, especially if you're right.. Nowadays we are offended by everything but you gave a thought to it and took it into perspective to think about.. I mean for Meredith, if she is offended by this, you can't make anything about it but like you said, it's important to be honest and honesty goes a much more long way than "for entertainment purpose only". I like that you really care, you can clearly feel your passion about make up and wanting people to do it right but not for social medial or for going viral but because you want them to enjoy it like you do. So yeah, I appreciate your honesty and It has nothing to do with dark humor. Lots of love from Austria 😊❤️
I literally have the Kevin Aucoin book on my makeup desk looking for inspiration. I would love to see Robert do one of Kevin’s techniques but maybe updated?
I truely appreciate how you maintain your honesty but also educate as a MUA! We need more videos and people with this kind of mindset... I just saw Allie Glines try this foundation (properly) and it seemed to work well for her even though she initially thought it wouldn't, so that goes right to the point you made in this video. 👏🏻
It is basically impossible to find a foundation light enough for me but it is SO much easier to make a foundation paler than it is to make it darker. White foundation mixers are really common and don't usually even affect coverage much. It is not the same for us, at all
Listen…I thought the lipstick thing was funny 😆 And I get what Meredith’s deal is with how she does foundation which she does for entertainment but like don’t go bash a product when you’re putting it on in an absurd way.
I was so excited to see that Kevyn Aucoin photo, that book was my makeup bible before RUclips etc. And that contouring picture is burned into my memory. But also the part where he says it's not meant to be taken literally 😅
As a "Casper" white ginger girl, I 100% agree with you Robert re shades! I complain all the time about the lack of very very fair shades but I constantly have to remind myself that the options are so much worse for women of colour (those red/straight up Trump undertones are appalling....I'm looking at you Tarte Shape Tape foundation!) - and that even though it sucks that I can never find foundations that match (especially affordable ones), at least I don't experience racism. If foundation shades are the worst of my problems, I'm so insanely privileged! Brands need to up their game and stores need to have ALL shades available, not just the ones they think they'll sell more of. I'm sick of seeing 50 shades of beige in every makeup store. We know brands can make an inclusive line - look at Fenty, Nars, Lancome, Rare etc. It's clear the other brands just don't think it's worth their time. Not good enough!
You took the words right out of my mouth. As a fair person myself, I struggle with looking too yellow or orange. But like you said that is the least of our problems. It is not the same for POC people. The issue is the racism behind the lack of shades not the lack of shades itself. I am actually using the Rare beauty foundation and it's a good match for me.
I’m soooo late to this but great comment! I’m super pale and yeah it sucks to not have enough shades, but it comes from a different place than not having enough shades for POC. One is probably a matter of companies not thinking there are enough pale people to sell those shades to, the other is them just not caring about dark skinned POC. Same problem yeah, but for vastly different reasons that need to be considered.
Robert sounding super passionate with “Let me tell you something.” Absolutely agree with your points. I used to work as an amateur makeup artist for a photo studio in the southeastern US. The demographic here is such that in order to feel I had a good working kit, I bought everything I could afford from lightest to darkest shades. And I hated that the dark shades always looked exaggeratedly off, like stage makeup. I didn’t feel good about the end result I was able to achieve with what I had. I don’t do that job anymore, but I am so glad that some brands are becoming more inclusive with their makeup palettes.
I agree with your evaluation of Meredith’s foundation application. No one would ever put foundation on that way! I learn so much from you with the proper techniques for applying all types of makeup. I appreciate that you also emphasize your skin type so we can decide if a product might work better on our skin type. How is her slathering on this foundation going to give an accurate review of the foundation. She’s knocking this foundation and telling her followers that it’s crap. Maybe it is but you’re not going to know by doing what she does! Some people don’t understand “entertainment”purposes and will believe whatever she says 😡
I was so excited to see that contour map from Kevyn Aucoin's book. He says it's not meant to be taken literally- in fact, he ALWAYS says to use as little product as possible and he never actually applies it like that in any of his step by step looks. But that picture really stuck in my brain and it's funny to see that it is still relevant today. I always think about what he'd be doing if he was alive today. It makes me happy when i hear he still inspires people, he was so far ahead of his time. 😢
I've been using that eyeshadow (green) and foundation hack for my ultra fair olive skin for like 10 years now. Until I found NYX Color correcting drops. I just add the green to my foundation now. I've never had an issue, but I've never really added enough eyeshadow to really alter the consistency of my foundation or how it dried down. From my own experience of course.
I used to work for Clinique. Their explanation for a crappy shade range was that they make what sells. They had actually discontinued several darker shades because they barely sold. They have expanded again, but that Sephora doesn't seem to have the full range.
@@onyks6178 the problem begins when the darker shades dont suit anyones skin bc of the undertone. they need to put more effort in darker shades if they want it to sell
@@kreelesley But they still probably calculated which of deeper shades/undertones would sell the most instead of making decisions on a whim to design test license produce market and sell a product blindly the brand has existed for 54 years, I'm sure they're smarter than all of us on what works and what doesn't for them business wise. there's other brands already either way that do have proper shade ranges who find it profitable for them to produce them
That foundation girl URRKKSSSS me so much! Don't know her name (merida?) but I see her all the time in other people's videos. Drives me mad. There's so many actually talented makeup artists that deserve a huge platform and then there's... her.
I saw that Tiktok and LAUGHED my head off. It was great and already stitched by another MUA after you stitched it. So there's 2 of you proper MUAs who did this with Meredith. And let's be real, she slathers on base products to excess and it's ridiculous. We ❤️ 😍 you Robert
I can't watch the video without pausing to say the makeup look he's wearing is AMAZING AHHH the neutral in the middle of the black on the eyes - BEAUTIFUL!!
This video is the first time I’ve even seen the infamous video. I actually saw Bobbi Brown’s response video first. Bobbi read Meredith for filth with only 4 words. A true class act and make up artistry legend. Tik Tok can be great once you’ve curated your algorithm.
I love your knowledge about make up, gives me such nostalgia for when we actually cared about how to apply things and trying out things that actually make you look better not just for trends 💜
I'd appreciate a nose contouring video tutorial, demonstrating how to subtly do that for people who wear lighter coverage natural type day make up looks, I have learned from you so much and trust you to give us useful information.
I love how diplomatic you’re being, Robert. But Meredith’s TT was just plain dumb and I’m positive it was done for the sole purpose of going viral. And that sucks. I remember when the makeup community on YT was basically Michelle Phan and Lauren Luke. I don’t think all of their techniques were the best, but overall they were informative and I learned SO much from watching them. It saddens me that people learning to do their makeup nowadays have to weed through content like this. Just like I was baking for years, copying YT influencers, and wondering why it didn’t look good on my super dry skin, they don’t know that what these influencers are putting out there is for the sole purpose of clicks, and not actual instruction. I’ve seen NikkiTutorials do some pretty whacky things on TT which I’m sure are for clicks but you know the difference between her trying something for fun and sheer outrageousness, and when she’s leaning more toward tutorial. If that makes sense.
I feel like most of the foundations I've seen have a little bit of neglect on the fair side(I'm very pale and usually the shades are too dark or too yellow for me on the fair side) and a shit ton of neglect on the deep side, then completely oversaturate the light to medium tones. I also find it hilarious when these brands made a big deal of how many shades they have. But, having 40 shades isn't really inclusive if 35 of them are only in the light to medium range. Also to add, that video from meredith and backlash from it actually made me want to buy the jones road foundation. 😂 Both the original video and the second one where she actually used it the way it's supposed to be(then still gave it a snotty negative review). It's obviously not something meant to build up which is why it didn't work for her application, but it's exactly what I want! Edit: Speak of the devil, the foundation just arrived and my first impression is: I love it. Need to test how long it works but it did exactly what I expected and just evened out my skintone and hid the redness. It doesn't cover really bad blemishes but I didn't expect it to. Not a big fan of the smell though.
Apparently mid tones are their bread and butter but either end of the spectrum is neglected. I'm still looking for my foundation match as my concealer is a better foundation match than actual foundation.
@@reet7060 I actually do use white concealer as a highlight shade. As for color corrector, are you referring to mixing them with a foundation? Because that would just be incredibly annoying to have to mix a custom color every single time I'd want to do makeup, plus it could alter the consistency of it. Outside of that, I'm not sure how a color corrector would help with a foundation that is the wrong shade.
I know this is old, but Jones Road beauty has been pretty clear in every promo they've released that that product line is for 1) mature skin 2) dry skin (which mature skin tends to lean towards) and 3) a realistic amount of product used for a natural look. If she really wanted to like the product, like she stated, then she would use it as it is intended.
I love that your no bullsh*t about things. You don't love kiddos so you don't pretend to. And if you feel that an application is not going to work, you don't pretend and tell people to do it! I adore that you're not rude about it though. You're qualified and act professionally. But I also love the side of humour. Love you bunches. From Canada xo 🇨🇦🍁
I applied foundation the way Meridith does when I was in 6th grade... I'm all for using clean fingers to apply don't get me wrong. I actually get grossed out seeing it on her lips. I really liked your point of "no one would do this without the intention of going viral" Also not to mention the amount of product she's wasting!!
i really appreciate you take your word so seriously. i like that you can be trusted and i don’t have to read between lines or wonder how you feel either
This is why I like what Juvia's place did, they included everyone with their foundation, not just 100 shades for darker and 5 for lighter skin tones, they made sure they had a balance to include the lightest and the darkest skin tones.
I think Lisa Eldrige has a really genuine diverse shade/tone for darker skins and if you are unsure you can buy the samples for 4 quid I think and test them out, plus she has all skin colours/tones on her website to help with your choice. It is on the slightly expensive side, but I have totally found my shade and tone and I am sticking with it!!
Your brutal honesty and educated opinions are fresh air to my lungs. You managed to elevate the quality of every type of content, even tiktok reactions. Thank you for your amazing contents.
Bahahahaha! “I don’t like kids enough to pretend…” SAME!!!!!! God I get so awkward around kids because I’m like… “i don’t understand you as a human…” 😂😂😂
Sandra Deluxe puts her foundation on with her hands. She’s the only person I’ve seen on RUclips do it. I been watching her for 5 years and she slathers it on like lotion. Sandra actually uses her hands more than brushes and the result is flawless
I truly wish these TikTokers would stop calling themselves MUA's. Just be honest, and just say "hey, I do makeup on myself". Let the Professionals be the Professionals and let the MUA/GURU/REVIEW channels just be that! Yet here we are, all jumbled together and the regular consumer has no idea. You are loved! We love and appreciate you and thank goodness we have you over on TikTok to keep things in check and on RUclips to call out.
The little girl was amazing! Already an artist. I'm so glad her mom is encouraging her creativity at such a young age. That Meridith person, on the other hand, is nuts. Who uses a tablespoon or more of ANY kind of foundation per side of their face? Crazy. As always, Robert, love you and your videos!
I’m so glad you said this about her over using product. I just couldn’t believe it and am so shocked people are watching her and possibly applying just as much product thinking she’s being honest. Crazy.
Hallo, Great review of tiktok,. Makeup is stunning and your comment are classy and spot-on. The best review I have seen about over that absurd foundation technique. Bobbi Brown's clip was funny and I really laughed over the red lip spoof. Love your channel and how you are true to makeup but yet fun to watch.
There is such a huge difference between the YT beauty community and the Tik Tok, and not only that but the comments too 👀 I think a lot of it is the age demographic and possibly the types of people who gravitate to one over the other but damn, that girl Merideth really tried to make that JR wtf balm look so bad. Even the way she talked in the video sounded snobby and above then. I get applying excess amount of product is her thing but still, she had to have known wtf she was doing. Not only that but the comment sections on tik tok in her video and those calling her out are just crazy. You got a lot of people saying she used to much and then you got these people out here saying “but um it’s literally her opinion.” But how can she form a legit opinion on a product when she used half the jar, also should we really be trusting someone who uses 1/4 a bottle of foundation every time she does her makeup? Prob not 🤣
No one is gonna take you seriously if you behave like that!! So well said! Thank you for being the voice of reason. Even before that video, whenever I saw this girl´s content on Tik Tok, I really reacted strongly. I really, really dislike her and her content. She is just the definition of what is wrong with social media these days. I even had her blocked before all this.
i know your thoughts on potentially coming out with your own brand one day, but i promise you’ll have so many dedicated fans that would absolutely LOVE to buy products from you!
Robert: Let me just start by saying this… Me: *trying to figure out what he’s gonna say about this kid doing make up* Robert: One… I don’t like children enough to pretend- Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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The girl who slathers a million layers on her face and calls herself 'the foundation queen' is the reason I'm so glad I barely ever go on tik tok 😂
She's on yt shorts everywhere for me 😭
Maybe it depends on your algorithm or what “side” of Tiktok you’re on, I’ve never seen her before in my life and I follow tons of MUA’s.
Nikki tutorials deserves that title if anything 😂
@@AshleyfromTX same here, I've only seen a few of her tiktoks and I am not fan, she comes off as not genuine to me and it's not what I'm looking for
If anything the OG foundation queen is Jennamarbles herself from when she did the "100 coats" video 😂
I find it so funny that Meredith said she was a broke college student (using a $50 foundation btw) and uses her fingers because a sponge wasted too much product..... and then proceeds to put on half a bottle at a time.... cracks me up every time I think of it hahaha
I don’t go on TikTok that much and I don’t watch Meredith. Out of curiosity, does Meredith do this for comedy and/or satire?
@@allisonlouie1202 nope snd ELF just used her for the O Face lipstick campaign. I'm kinda upset cause I love ELF and she's never once used them in a vid I've seen.
@doom3798 she WAS in collège, read well before reacting
Well she also said in the same video ( allure) she put a lot of product bc she has frakles..
@@fannyboni472 not trying to be rude at all, but it's freckles.
Unless she has incredibly dark, patchy freckles, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to use THAT much foundation. But whatever floats her boat.
Imagine calling yourself the foundation queen because you apply it like a moisturizer and not as makeup as it’s intended to be
Lmao even a child knows that was applied so incorrectly
It’s too much even for a dang moisturizer!!
Moisturiser? More like wall plaster 😂 your being too kind
Its kind of embarrassing 😳😳😳
If I apply moisturiser like that, I’ll look like an oil spill.. and I have dry skin
Full disclosure: a week ago I tried Meredith’s “technique” just because I had been judging it hardcore and felt like maybe I should try it before I judge lol. Anyway, I gave it a go and used about 5x more foundation than I usually use and to be honest it looked nice…AT FIRST. But after a few hours it was simply DISGUSTING! It caked up and showed lines I didn’t even know I had and when I tried to pat some of my oilier areas later in the day, the foundation literally just patched off. Felt gross, ended up looking gross, and now I feel validated in my judgement 😂😂.
i cant believe you tried this 😅
if your foundation had spf, congrats though, youve had the sun protection level you needed. cause thats how much you have to apply to get the spf benefits 😊😂
I tried her ‘’technique’’ except I used a very small amount of foundation. There is a HUGE difference between makeup for social media and everyday makeup. She puts on that much and doesn’t care because she sits in front of a camera and bright studio lights all day. Just my opinion!
I tried it too and it felt disgusting!!!! I felt like I was wearing a mask all over my face. And it creased SO bad.
Now that is a serious commitment to debunking TikTok! I appreciate it! I’m super tempted to try it cause I would feel like a kid playing with mud 😆
She literally worships her technique 😂 and says that she likes it that way.... yeah...
She applied that foundation like a thick moisturizer and then acted shocked that it didn't look good. That video has millions of views and people listen to her, that's not fair to the brand or the product.
Or the younger people watching who think that is how to apply foundation! It is stupid, and super rude to any brands she "reviews" and not telling viewers that in real life and light 9 tons of foundation always looks bad is just, well irresponsible. (Again) I'm sure if I had actually watched her before, I wouldn't bother to comment because she'd block me too. 😂
The issue is not the technic, but the amount of product she applies, I think. I know a bunch of light coverage foundations, that can be applied using our fingers, but you don't need a ton of product to achieve a good result.
And she has the nerve to call herself the queen of foundation! Can I have that level of confidence please!!
To be fair why do they have the word “foundation” on it when it doesn’t really work as a regular foundation (it’s more like a skin tint/tinted moisturizer). I get that it’s supposed to be a play on word, hence the “what the” but still, having the word foundation on it doesn’t seem to be a smart marketing move. What the girl did with it was still stupid though lmao
I don't even apply HALF of what she applied in foundation, as a moisturizer. That IS ABSURD! I feel like her common sense is out the window. You would KNOW BETTER if you are actually a Makeup Artist....
When you said she’s blocked you on everything 😂 love it! She’s not a real mua. She’s also not quite the friendliest. She came into my job (Morphe) to promote the blush and was way too full of herself. The fame got to her and she did not say one word to us employees who set up the store btw very nicely to welcome her.
A lot of self taught muas I know are humblier. The point is to be humbly enough to know how to learn more. You don't know everything, so you would rather keep up with the formation. I am a school mua, and keep learning. Everyday.
Seems she just simply has no manners!!
I saw she did a meet and greet and nobody came lmao
“i’M tHe fOuNdAtIoN qUeEn” lmao I did not like her tone
Okay, that was rude.
What you stated on Meredith’s foundation application was excellently stated. The product was never meant to be applied in such manner… solely for viral purposes.
Thank you Ashley 🙏🏻
@@RobertWelsh I thought maybe she was going for the dead blonde in gold in Goldfinger...
@@RobertWelsh completely agree with everything else you said as well. Couldn’t have said it better myself!!
the amount she glopped on her fingers lol, she'd get maybe 8 total uses from that jar if she legit did that on the regular.
I believe she recently did it with a Bobbi Brown foundation and she did the same things back by rubbing products on her face. That’s just not the way to apply some foundations, I She does it that way.. but I also think it’s kinda wasteful.
“I don’t like children enough to pretend…”. Omg I am dying lmao this is why I love you! 💙💙💙💙
I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying over his comment and the way he said it . I actually came to the comment section to see if anyone else feels the same way. And me too one of the reasons why I love him so much, his brutal honesty. But I have to admit I've felt that way before about children when I was younger.😂
I, too, feel his disdain on this one. I don't care for kids either. They're not cute, on the whole. I can count on one hand the number of kids I've encountered and liked/found cute. And I'm 38! Yet they have a tendency to flock to me - like cats to folk who are allergic to them😂
Meredith said "I really wanted to like it." She was never going to like it because it's not the kind of product she likes. It's very natural, light coverage. She was never gonna like it and she knew that. She just wanted to make a viral video...and it worked
I wonder if she used something under that foundation, because too much skincare, or if you don't wait enough to start the makeup, you can have the same result she had.
I thought this too at first and then I saw a video that sort of clicked with me, the PR team sent her this product and when you send a product out you should know that there is a chance that the people you send it to will not like the product. Obviously everyone knows how Meredith does her makeup and she wasn’t the target audience for this product however the PR team still sent her the product knowing how big her audience is and that she would more than likely not use the product as it is intended. I don’t know if it was the lack of research on their end or what it was but there is always a chance that the review could be negative and she it wasn’t her fault that the product didn’t work for her. I am aware how the product should be used and I was annoyed too when I first saw it but at that point why would they send it someone who does their makeup in such a different way than the product is intended for? Just another perspective to look at it 😁
@@sarafjones0497 I saw a video by Bobbi and she said they did NOT send it to her 🤷♀️
Exactly! She just wants views
@@sarafjones0497 The thing is, that Jones Road didn't send her the product (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I saw Bobbi Brown herself saying it somewhere), she bought it herself knowing very well it's not for her.
That five-year-old did a better job with false lashes than I ever have in my life. That's not fair.
i replayed back the video and im confident to say the false lashes were already on. Maybe theres an actual tiktok of her doin it, but in this video is was fake.
Meredith blocked you on everything cause of your parody?
Oh my god that is HILARIOUS. She cannot accept that she made a mistake lmao
😂 it’s ok though I do understand and sometimes the power to block someone is all we have as influencers.
@@RobertWelsh Out of curiosity, do you still regularly do makeup on clients? Or are you full time RUclips now?
@Matthew Curlee *I'm fairly sure that he has said before that he does youtube full time now. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure he's said that on a video before.*
Even if like she can't take a joke? 🤣
@@RobertWelsh Mez is clearly jealous because Jackie would much rather watch yours
When I first saw Meredith's video, as a fellow MUA myself, I was quaking! She's seriously convinced that she is 100% correct and the REAL MUA's are wrong
I personally stop listening as soon as someone starts telling me the only "right" way to do something regardless of their credentials. It reminds me of my art teacher who said we should "think INSIDE the box" and would actually take a pencil/brush out of your hand and start "fixing" your art 💀 some people need to feel in control of everything, including other people's creativity.
That’s odd. I do watch her and she preaches doing makeup however you want and has started that this is how she like to do hers.
I haven’t watched every single video but of the dozens and dozens that I have, I’ve never seen her pushing techniques on anyone. She doesn’t even teach. They’re all Get Ready With Me and she’s just chatting like one would with a friend.
@@viviangod_win that's pretty unfortunate if this person prejudged all of her content based on their impression from a single video... 😕
Really? To me it felt like a comedy skit almost. Like the ridiculousness of the situation that she dips her face into the foundation and then blames the product for why it looks bad.
I don't believe people are that oblivious and un-self-aware. 👀
I literally bought the Jones Road makeup BECAUSE of Meredith's ridiculous "reviews." Everything she complained about was just what I want from a foundation product.
The product is just what I look for. I have very dry skin and hate full coverage. It does have a smell in the jar that smells very floral, it disapates on the skin. It's very light coverage.
I loathe the masks that beauty influencers insist on slathering on their (blemish and texture free in many cases) faces. It's a waste of product and encourages younger people to feel that they NEED to apply that much product in order to look good.
Hah, same! I have combination skin so I don't think it would necessarily work all over my face, but the main thing I want is to even up the tone on my cheeks and forehead without needing a full coverage foundation all over so it sounds exactly like what I need.
It's not going to be for everyone, but if someone is touting themselves as the 'foundation queen' then they honestly should have a better understanding that different types of foundation are for different situations and applications. I honestly wouldn't trust Meredith's videos for anymore than entertainment, they're not reviews at all.
@@arcaderat1613 I have oily skin and I love it. I just don’t apply AM moisturizer (cause WTF has moisture) and lightly set my nose.
I started to do my makeup when I was 12/13 for school because I wanted to fit in and be like the other girls. When I was 15 I remember going into shops buying the cheapest stuff I could find to fit in even more: eyeliner, blush, a matte foundation. And for a while that's what I'd do. Use a lot of product. Until last year I couldn't care less and started to change. I did more foundationless makeup, started using better stuff for my face. I went from full coverage to less to now a bit in the middle. I had a period when a ton of pimples decided to show up around my mouth so I started using foundation again to cover them and found the best for me. I've always been the girl with the pretty makeup. Hell even one teacher came up to me to congratulate me on how my makeup looked after 6 hours of school. What I'm trying to say it's that what came from the need to fit in became my passion. I use makeup as a form of art. To express myself. I sometimes post my looks on Instagram if anybody's interested in visual proof. Btw since doing my makeup more and in more diversified ways I learnt to truly appreciate the art of it and use.
Exactly the reasons I would buy a product. I have dry skin and also don't want full coverage. But, I also never wear makeup, so won't buy it because of that. I never wear makeup and when she started complaining about it, my eyes pooped out of my head and I was like "you f***ing caked it on!" It isn't fair to the product for someone to quite obviously use the product wrong and then complain about it. It's also telling that she blocked Robert, she obviously doesn't like being told she's wrong either.
If I had the money I would buy it too-I like lighter complexion products for every day wear. Right now I’m using maybelline’s BB cream and I actually like it (I hadn’t used it in 10 years).
My goodness the Melt Lipstick parody followed by "Meredith has blocked me on most platforms" is the level of petty snark I aspire to 😂 And following up with genuine education on not just make up but good business practice just shows the heart we love too x
If she did block you on social media, it tells me that she isn't open to learning or growing. But that's just my opinion. As for the little girl I'm glad that her mom is allowing her to develop her artistry with makeup and encouraging her to do so. The eye look was very good.🖤
She was so good wasnt she!
@@RobertWelsh Yea! The blush and contour was very soft and youthful. She holds the brush kind of high but she has plenty of control so it's not a problem. She'll learn more dexterity as she gets older.
@@Selene_Rosara considering she's 5 years old, and most first graders aren't able to even cut paper or draw their own hands with that kind of precision, she is extremely talented for holding the brush the way she does. i know people in my own family who use two to three fingers just to hold pencils
@@ibugfishi now I'm curious about how many fingers you use to hold a pencil. 😂🖤 Her age isn't really a consideration for me except to say that she's already incredibly talented and has a supportive mom who is encouraging her to grow. Not everyone has that. 🖤
@@Selene_Rosara i use one finger and my thumb- i hold it between those fingertips and my middle finger tends to steady the pencil. i've seen a lot of my family members hold their pencils with the tips of all their fingers and its interesting since i always thought everyone holds it the same way i do
Nobody puts foundation on like that. She made herself look like a fool. Glad I've never seen her before this. You give the best reactions always Robert!!
Frfr, it angered me when she called herself “the foundation queen”, like... applying a ton of product doesn’t mean that you’re doing it properly 🤡.
*I* first saw her in a Johnny Ross short :
"Barbara Follows a br|Derryeredith Tutorial" ...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
... neither Robert nor Johnny were being _mean_ critical, they were both using parody to lightheartedly poke fun @ the parts of her content where legit criticism _is warranted_ ... blocking either of them *for THAT* ?!?? actually says quite a bit abt _her_
Honestly, think Robert should take it as a honor that Meridith blocked him 🤣
i think he did 😬
@@appppppplecrumble6601 ??
Yeah her vibe is not it
I kind of agree - and because, Robert was fully respectful of her, in his commentary...like he pretty much is toward everybody...so to me and for these reasons, I think Meredith was rude and that it was mean of her to do that
As someone with a deep skin tone, I appreciate your calling out the extent to which we are still largely ignored by the majority of brands or offered just any old crap, so they can claim inclusivity. Also, you're one of the few who "gets it" and whom I would actually trust to do it properly. Hope someday soon I'll be ordering a cute little package with a fancy RW MUA on the label.
I'm so passionate about this issue (my family/friends are sick of my rants!). I'm not a woman of colour (my skin is basically translucent....) and I'm not pretending I understand what you and others go through or have it the same by any means. I'm so sorry you have to go through this crap. When I started getting into makeup, I noticed how rubbish the shade availability is for very fair women but then I saw how much worse it is on the other end of the shade spectrum. It's pathetic. Plus in Australia where I live, most stores don't even stock the full shade range. It's just all the various shades of beige in the middle that basically all look the same. It sends an unacceptable message that certain customers are valued over others and other racist assumptions (as well as what skin tone is deemed desirable - white skin that tans or is false tanned). There's just honestly NO excuse anymore! We ride at dawn!
@@hannahbradshaw2186 im medium, and it's ridiculous how many brands just put out straight up orange or cartoon red undertones or used to stop a few shades lighter and say they'll develop darker colors later. also!! you pasty girlies would have similar problems from what ive heard with brands starting too dark with the same damned orange undertones :(
@@hannahbradshaw2186 lmao cringe
@@hoesmad8445 you're welcome ✌️
I agree about the Jone’s Road foundation application. First of all, it’s a Bobbi (as in Bobbi Brown) product. Secondly, on her site it even says just to use a little bit. That container is $44 and she took a ton of it…you’d be out of foundation in a week girl! 😂
More like the second time she used it she'd hit the bottom doing it like that 🤣
Yeah, I think people are looking for it to do something different than advertised. I love mine and her miracle balms but I’m not looking for full coverage or using giant globs of it
Well she probably gets alot of these foundations for free in Pr also. Unless your just rich your not gonna use so much like that on a normal look anyway. She's just wasting and it really doesn't make sense. These foundations are not meant to use half the container at one time so of course it's not going to apply correctly or look good lol. I don't get why she does this really. I would die just from the mess of it! 😂
It’s definitely for sheer coverage, skin like use, not a full coverage foundation. It doesn’t make sense that Bobbi from Bobbi Brown would put her name on a crap product.
Whoa wait, it’s a Bobbi Brown product?? Oh my god I’m getting it. I’ve wanted it for a while now but I wasn’t sure bc I just feel so sad when I buy makeup online and I end up hating it. I live in California and my skin is SO dry, girl! Plus I’m in my mid 30s just trying to even out my skin and look hydrated, thriving, etc. Not looking for a full face every day.
Thank you for calling Meredith out! As a fellow makeup artist myself, it really disturbs be to watch it when she tries to pretend that it lasts all day and doesn’t look awful 🙃
I don’t like when “influencers” aren’t fair in their reviews. You can try a product, it can be totally NOT for you but generally there’s still a population it will work for. If you’re not educated well enough to make the proper reviews/suggestions you shouldn’t 🤷🏻♀️ I completely agree with your comments here Robert!
its kinda the same wave that happened a while ago when western influencers tried korean make up and were complaining over the "lack of pigment" when korean make up isnt suppose to be full face full glam full pigment. its just a wash of colour....
and they reviewed this to their audience applying it like it was suppose to perform like western products
Absolutely agree
I just watched a great video by Angelica Nyqvist, called It’s Not You It’s Me. She went through products that she hated on her due to her skin or makeup style. She said that they were still good products because the reasons they didn’t work for her they would work great for a lot of other people. I really liked that. I’ve gifted products myself for friends who have dry skin because the products were just too luminous on me.
Anyone else feel like they were low key told off when Robert was addressing Meredith and said "no one will take you seriously when you behave like that" living for the headteacher of MUA vibes!! ❤️🥰
You not even pretending to like children 😂😂😂 I respect your realness lol btw this eye look suits you beautifully! So stunning 😍🖤🖤
😂😂 thank you! 🖤🖤
I can totally relate!
Former boss: Hey, you wanna see pictures of my new granddaughter ?
Me: No.
Him: Seriously?
Me: Yes. Do you wanna see pics of my dogs?
@@morganmckibbon4241 my gosh same ahaha
As a dark skinned woman, that spill you gave about the complexion products for darker skin was everything to me. Much love Robert ❤️
Robert's ability to politely DECIMATE someone (justifiably so!) is just so lovely 🥰
😂 when Robert said he doesn’t like children enough… Same friend, same! Lol but I agree, her work is so nice!
Sometimes I have to fake it so people don’t look at me like wtf you evil bitch lol
As a mother- yes lmao same 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm tired of people like Meredith and Mikayla having 10 million subscribers when all they care about is going viral,views and getting paid. I want HONESTY. The Welsh brothers is the BEST place to get that
Is Mikayla in that group as well (meaning the influencers that are essentially sell outs)? I am on tiktok but I don't really get into makeup tiktok much. However, I got the vibe that people liked and trusted Mikayla (but I could very well be wrong).
@@Throatzillaaa Personally I honestly do not trust her reviews.. I feel like they are mostly fake paid reviews but of course I can be wrong.
See, now I disagree about Mikayla. I find her to be very open and real. She definitely takes advantage of people offering her opportunities, but I haven't seen anything I would consider "sellout" and I've followed her from the very beginning. She started out of her bedroom in her parent's house and it's been clear she just really loves what she's doing and is very grateful for everything. I think people like her bc she is no bullshit. But that's just my take and I don't know her from Adam. 😁
@@miiscaligurl SAME
@@nataliefragiadakis4805 She's not the same anymore. You have to search her hastags to see if it's an ad now.
“I really wanted to like it” Meredith started the video very skeptical of the foundation lol. I’m glad you spoke about this, and in such a polite, well knowledgeable, manner. I admire your professionalism when it come to trends and the information you give to those that watch your videos! 💕
That foundation application was absolutely ridiculous. I've seen other videos of people using it and it seems quite nice when used appropriately. Can't wait for your review of it Robert, I truly trust and respect your opinion.
And isn't "building coverage" about, like, adding light layers anyway? What she did was bizarre and wasteful.
I never wear makeup and even I was like "Girrrrrl no!" when that person glopped half the tub of foundation on her face at once. 😂 And then was SHOCKED it didn't work. Like, you're trying to put two week's worth of foundation on your face, at once, with your fingers, and it didn't work? Shocked. SHOCKED!
and that's why SkinUp is the #1 beauty brand in the world, it doesn't even need to physically exist for it to be the best product(s?) on the market ✌😭💓
True 😔✊💙
Well SkinUp IS a whole science product
I feel and look younger and more beautiful just thinking about it!
Pay attention children, Robert just gave y'all a master class on the art of shade 💅
As someone that's literally the color of chalk (with a very neutral undertone), I've always wished a company would create a foundation range that had levels like haircolor, with an additive for undertones, so we could just select our own and custom mix.
Doesn't Nyx and L.A. Girl have undertone correctors? At least they use to have. If I remember correctly, they both had white, dark brown, yellow and blue mixers, maybe an orange one too..?
I mix my Kim Chi lavender concealer to any foundation that are too warm and it works really well!
Not the idea you have above, but have you tried Lisa Eldridge? Her foundation seems to go to a very light shade. And I believe Wayne goss has a nearly “white” one that he mixes with other others to adjust shades
@@cmcm4204 I'm obsessed with Wayne Goss anyway, so I'll definitely try his out!!!
You're on to something here!
I have a similar complexion (my sister asked if my concealer shade was clown makeup 😂) and Anastasia Beverly Hills new luminous foundation 100N is a good one, but LA girl has a straight white color corrector as well which I have considered 😂
When I worked for Lancôme I was always so proud that they did so many shades for everyone. They have 5 different levels and about 7 to 9 shades within each type. That foundation she showed is more like a skin tint so there are fewer shades but they still have something for everyone. So often the people working for Lauder ended up putting insane shades on people with deeper or very fair skin tones.
LMAOOOOOO “i dont like children enough….” I CACKLED. i love you and your bluntness. sending love always ❤️
You said “never use tiktok for full reviews” and that gave me hope that there’s still room for beauty content on RUclips from people of all ages and preferences. You are exactly right, and the last video is such a good illustration of that. Much love Robert! 🔮
Actually, a back to basics would be greatly appreciated
Sincerely, the 30+ woman just getting into makeup.
I’ve never heard of this Meredith before but I legit thought she was trolling and calling herself the “foundation queen” as a joke, what is thisss 😭
Wow. Just got to the end of the video and have never seen this creator because I don't go on TikTok much. That was like a chef pouring a whole bottle of vanilla extract into a cake and wondering aloud why it turned out with a weird aftertaste and it wasn't light enough in texture. A makeup artist understands how cream, liquids, powders work on skin. I was offended by the video not by your opinion which was excellent!
Please Robert, don't apologize for saying your opinion, especially if you're right.. Nowadays we are offended by everything but you gave a thought to it and took it into perspective to think about.. I mean for Meredith, if she is offended by this, you can't make anything about it but like you said, it's important to be honest and honesty goes a much more long way than "for entertainment purpose only". I like that you really care, you can clearly feel your passion about make up and wanting people to do it right but not for social medial or for going viral but because you want them to enjoy it like you do. So yeah, I appreciate your honesty and It has nothing to do with dark humor. Lots of love from Austria 😊❤️
Love these videos, it’s how I find out about what’s going viral on TikTok because I’m not spending all day looking.
Girrrlll same
12:47 omg the eye makeup is GORGEOUS
I literally have the Kevin Aucoin book on my makeup desk looking for inspiration. I would love to see Robert do one of Kevin’s techniques but maybe updated?
I truely appreciate how you maintain your honesty but also educate as a MUA! We need more videos and people with this kind of mindset... I just saw Allie Glines try this foundation (properly) and it seemed to work well for her even though she initially thought it wouldn't, so that goes right to the point you made in this video. 👏🏻
Looking absolutely stunning as always! Tik Tok is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to hacks.
Thank you Marie!!! 🖤🖤🖤
@@RobertWelsh 💜💜💜
It is basically impossible to find a foundation light enough for me but it is SO much easier to make a foundation paler than it is to make it darker. White foundation mixers are really common and don't usually even affect coverage much. It is not the same for us, at all
Listen…I thought the lipstick thing was funny 😆 And I get what Meredith’s deal is with how she does foundation which she does for entertainment but like don’t go bash a product when you’re putting it on in an absurd way.
I absolutely love the look of delight on Robert's face when he sees people not drawing on their contour and other makeup products 😁🖤
I was so excited to see that Kevyn Aucoin photo, that book was my makeup bible before RUclips etc. And that contouring picture is burned into my memory. But also the part where he says it's not meant to be taken literally 😅
Hey Robert, you’re invited to the cookout❤️ thanks for your commentary on darker foundations that are made available to us.
Your eye look is stunning, Robert! I couldn’t stop looking at it.
Omg Robert! I’m dead… “I don’t like children enough” completely straight faced, made my day! 😝
7:58 same 😭😭 love your honesty
As a "Casper" white ginger girl, I 100% agree with you Robert re shades! I complain all the time about the lack of very very fair shades but I constantly have to remind myself that the options are so much worse for women of colour (those red/straight up Trump undertones are appalling....I'm looking at you Tarte Shape Tape foundation!) - and that even though it sucks that I can never find foundations that match (especially affordable ones), at least I don't experience racism. If foundation shades are the worst of my problems, I'm so insanely privileged! Brands need to up their game and stores need to have ALL shades available, not just the ones they think they'll sell more of. I'm sick of seeing 50 shades of beige in every makeup store. We know brands can make an inclusive line - look at Fenty, Nars, Lancome, Rare etc. It's clear the other brands just don't think it's worth their time. Not good enough!
You took the words right out of my mouth. As a fair person myself, I struggle with looking too yellow or orange. But like you said that is the least of our problems. It is not the same for POC people. The issue is the racism behind the lack of shades not the lack of shades itself. I am actually using the Rare beauty foundation and it's a good match for me.
I’m soooo late to this but great comment! I’m super pale and yeah it sucks to not have enough shades, but it comes from a different place than not having enough shades for POC. One is probably a matter of companies not thinking there are enough pale people to sell those shades to, the other is them just not caring about dark skinned POC. Same problem yeah, but for vastly different reasons that need to be considered.
Robert sounding super passionate with “Let me tell you something.” Absolutely agree with your points. I used to work as an amateur makeup artist for a photo studio in the southeastern US. The demographic here is such that in order to feel I had a good working kit, I bought everything I could afford from lightest to darkest shades. And I hated that the dark shades always looked exaggeratedly off, like stage makeup. I didn’t feel good about the end result I was able to achieve with what I had. I don’t do that job anymore, but I am so glad that some brands are becoming more inclusive with their makeup palettes.
I agree with your evaluation of Meredith’s foundation application. No one would ever put foundation on that way! I learn so much from you with the proper techniques for applying all types of makeup. I appreciate that you also emphasize your skin type so we can decide if a product might work better on our skin type. How is her slathering on this foundation going to give an accurate review of the foundation. She’s knocking this foundation and telling her followers that it’s crap. Maybe it is but you’re not going to know by doing what she does! Some people don’t understand “entertainment”purposes and will believe whatever she says 😡
These have become some of my favorite videos! I like to go and rewatch them when I’m cooking!
Thank you Chantal! 🖤🖤
I was so excited to see that contour map from Kevyn Aucoin's book. He says it's not meant to be taken literally- in fact, he ALWAYS says to use as little product as possible and he never actually applies it like that in any of his step by step looks.
But that picture really stuck in my brain and it's funny to see that it is still relevant today. I always think about what he'd be doing if he was alive today. It makes me happy when i hear he still inspires people, he was so far ahead of his time. 😢
Oh Robert, how I needed you and your loveliness today... I'm so thankful there's a video. 🥺🥰
I've been using that eyeshadow (green) and foundation hack for my ultra fair olive skin for like 10 years now. Until I found NYX Color correcting drops. I just add the green to my foundation now. I've never had an issue, but I've never really added enough eyeshadow to really alter the consistency of my foundation or how it dried down. From my own experience of course.
I used to work for Clinique. Their explanation for a crappy shade range was that they make what sells. They had actually discontinued several darker shades because they barely sold. They have expanded again, but that Sephora doesn't seem to have the full range.
Which is completely fine in my opinion. That's how business works.
It probably won't sell, if the undertones are wrong, so it's a bit double sided.. 🙈
@@SlothDaan I agree; it was always difficult to match my darker-skinned clients.
@@onyks6178 the problem begins when the darker shades dont suit anyones skin bc of the undertone. they need to put more effort in darker shades if they want it to sell
@@kreelesley But they still probably calculated which of deeper shades/undertones would sell the most instead of making decisions on a whim to design test license produce market and sell a product blindly
the brand has existed for 54 years, I'm sure they're smarter than all of us on what works and what doesn't for them business wise. there's other brands already either way that do have proper shade ranges who find it profitable for them to produce them
Your presence on RUclips is a breath of fresh air! This type of energy is so needed.
yes the tiktok people are ridiculous but can we talk about how MESMERIZING that eye look is with Robert's deep brown eyes?✨✨ damn
That foundation girl URRKKSSSS me so much!
Don't know her name (merida?) but I see her all the time in other people's videos.
Drives me mad.
There's so many actually talented makeup artists that deserve a huge platform and then there's... her.
That little look to the camera Robert did when Meredith scooped out that big lump of foundation 😂😂😂
Why Robert on here dropping life knowledge, u went beyond the surface! Bless u n y’all listen n apply!! 💎
I saw that Tiktok and LAUGHED my head off. It was great and already stitched by another MUA after you stitched it. So there's 2 of you proper MUAs who did this with Meredith.
And let's be real, she slathers on base products to excess and it's ridiculous.
We ❤️ 😍 you Robert
I can't watch the video without pausing to say the makeup look he's wearing is AMAZING AHHH the neutral in the middle of the black on the eyes - BEAUTIFUL!!
This video is the first time I’ve even seen the infamous video. I actually saw Bobbi Brown’s response video first. Bobbi read Meredith for filth with only 4 words. A true class act and make up artistry legend. Tik Tok can be great once you’ve curated your algorithm.
I love your knowledge about make up, gives me such nostalgia for when we actually cared about how to apply things and trying out things that actually make you look better not just for trends 💜
I'd appreciate a nose contouring video tutorial, demonstrating how to subtly do that for people who wear lighter coverage natural type day make up looks, I have learned from you so much and trust you to give us useful information.
I love how diplomatic you’re being, Robert. But Meredith’s TT was just plain dumb and I’m positive it was done for the sole purpose of going viral. And that sucks. I remember when the makeup community on YT was basically Michelle Phan and Lauren Luke. I don’t think all of their techniques were the best, but overall they were informative and I learned SO much from watching them. It saddens me that people learning to do their makeup nowadays have to weed through content like this. Just like I was baking for years, copying YT influencers, and wondering why it didn’t look good on my super dry skin, they don’t know that what these influencers are putting out there is for the sole purpose of clicks, and not actual instruction. I’ve seen NikkiTutorials do some pretty whacky things on TT which I’m sure are for clicks but you know the difference between her trying something for fun and sheer outrageousness, and when she’s leaning more toward tutorial. If that makes sense.
this girl's skit was not only stupid, it was mean spirited. Nikki would never.
I feel like most of the foundations I've seen have a little bit of neglect on the fair side(I'm very pale and usually the shades are too dark or too yellow for me on the fair side) and a shit ton of neglect on the deep side, then completely oversaturate the light to medium tones. I also find it hilarious when these brands made a big deal of how many shades they have. But, having 40 shades isn't really inclusive if 35 of them are only in the light to medium range.
Also to add, that video from meredith and backlash from it actually made me want to buy the jones road foundation. 😂 Both the original video and the second one where she actually used it the way it's supposed to be(then still gave it a snotty negative review). It's obviously not something meant to build up which is why it didn't work for her application, but it's exactly what I want!
Edit: Speak of the devil, the foundation just arrived and my first impression is: I love it. Need to test how long it works but it did exactly what I expected and just evened out my skintone and hid the redness. It doesn't cover really bad blemishes but I didn't expect it to. Not a big fan of the smell though.
I have the same issue. I can only find the fairest shades online. It's such a pain. I'm extremely pale and everything is normally too dark or yellow.
Apparently mid tones are their bread and butter but either end of the spectrum is neglected. I'm still looking for my foundation match as my concealer is a better foundation match than actual foundation.
You can legit just use white concealer. And then of course there are cheap but good color correctors from like every drug store brand.
@@reet7060 I actually do use white concealer as a highlight shade. As for color corrector, are you referring to mixing them with a foundation? Because that would just be incredibly annoying to have to mix a custom color every single time I'd want to do makeup, plus it could alter the consistency of it. Outside of that, I'm not sure how a color corrector would help with a foundation that is the wrong shade.
@@arcaderat1613 as you just said. Mixing them or foundations you already have
I know this is old, but Jones Road beauty has been pretty clear in every promo they've released that that product line is for 1) mature skin 2) dry skin (which mature skin tends to lean towards) and 3) a realistic amount of product used for a natural look. If she really wanted to like the product, like she stated, then she would use it as it is intended.
Your eye look is EVERYTHING! I completely agree about the Meredith situation. Completely.
I love that your no bullsh*t about things. You don't love kiddos so you don't pretend to. And if you feel that an application is not going to work, you don't pretend and tell people to do it! I adore that you're not rude about it though. You're qualified and act professionally. But I also love the side of humour. Love you bunches. From Canada xo 🇨🇦🍁
I applied foundation the way Meridith does when I was in 6th grade... I'm all for using clean fingers to apply don't get me wrong. I actually get grossed out seeing it on her lips. I really liked your point of "no one would do this without the intention of going viral"
Also not to mention the amount of product she's wasting!!
i really appreciate you take your word so seriously. i like that you can be trusted and i don’t have to read between lines or wonder how you feel either
I love these videos of yours because you say what needs to be said in a respectful manner....with integrity.🖤🖤🖤
This is why I like what Juvia's place did, they included everyone with their foundation, not just 100 shades for darker and 5 for lighter skin tones, they made sure they had a balance to include the lightest and the darkest skin tones.
How is the quality of this brand? I like their shades. I just cannot wear products with mica as a main ingredient. :(
I think Lisa Eldrige has a really genuine diverse shade/tone for darker skins and if you are unsure you can buy the samples for 4 quid I think and test them out, plus she has all skin colours/tones on her website to help with your choice. It is on the slightly expensive side, but I have totally found my shade and tone and I am sticking with it!!
Her foundation has my first and only shade match. It's amazing truly
@@dw7896 what’s the wear like for this foundation? is it long lasting? natural matte? i’d really like to get a sample of this foundation!!
Just honesty and facts here ✌🏼
Seriously tho, you’re amazingly talented and I want your eyes! In the non-creepy Silence of the Lambs way
Thank you! 😂😂
Your brutal honesty and educated opinions are fresh air to my lungs. You managed to elevate the quality of every type of content, even tiktok reactions. Thank you for your amazing contents.
Love this complication!! So true on that last one, don't misuse a product then complain about it 🎉
Bahahahaha! “I don’t like kids enough to pretend…” SAME!!!!!! God I get so awkward around kids because I’m like… “i don’t understand you as a human…” 😂😂😂
Sandra Deluxe puts her foundation on with her hands. She’s the only person I’ve seen on RUclips do it. I been watching her for 5 years and she slathers it on like lotion. Sandra actually uses her hands more than brushes and the result is flawless
I love his eyes theyre so PRETTY!! it's like that brown/red color I love it!!
Love your eyeshadow in this one Robert! Is there a tutorial for it?
I second that thought! My new eye makeup goal is this look
Thank you! There will be on tiktok! But! It’s just a halo eye I winged out! I think I’ve done. A few similar looks!
I love this look too!
It's perfection x
I truly wish these TikTokers would stop calling themselves MUA's. Just be honest, and just say "hey, I do makeup on myself". Let the Professionals be the Professionals and let the MUA/GURU/REVIEW channels just be that! Yet here we are, all jumbled together and the regular consumer has no idea. You are loved! We love and appreciate you and thank goodness we have you over on TikTok to keep things in check and on RUclips to call out.
The little girl was amazing! Already an artist. I'm so glad her mom is encouraging her creativity at such a young age. That Meridith person, on the other hand, is nuts. Who uses a tablespoon or more of ANY kind of foundation per side of their face? Crazy. As always, Robert, love you and your videos!
I’m so glad you said this about her over using product. I just couldn’t believe it and am so shocked people are watching her and possibly applying just as much product thinking she’s being honest. Crazy.
Hallo, Great review of tiktok,. Makeup is stunning and your comment are classy and spot-on. The best review I have seen about over that absurd foundation technique. Bobbi Brown's clip was funny and I really laughed over the red lip spoof. Love your channel and how you are true to makeup but yet fun to watch.
I love the way you express your opinions. Very candid. It's refreshing. Thanks for always giving great tips.
There is such a huge difference between the YT beauty community and the Tik Tok, and not only that but the comments too 👀 I think a lot of it is the age demographic and possibly the types of people who gravitate to one over the other but damn, that girl Merideth really tried to make that JR wtf balm look so bad. Even the way she talked in the video sounded snobby and above then. I get applying excess amount of product is her thing but still, she had to have known wtf she was doing. Not only that but the comment sections on tik tok in her video and those calling her out are just crazy. You got a lot of people saying she used to much and then you got these people out here saying “but um it’s literally her opinion.” But how can she form a legit opinion on a product when she used half the jar, also should we really be trusting someone who uses 1/4 a bottle of foundation every time she does her makeup? Prob not 🤣
"Above" Bobbi freaking Brown...yeah, the girl needs some perspective.
Everything about her seems like a beg for views.
No one is gonna take you seriously if you behave like that!! So well said!
Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Even before that video, whenever I saw this girl´s content on Tik Tok, I really reacted strongly. I really, really dislike her and her content. She is just the definition of what is wrong with social media these days. I even had her blocked before all this.
Your response video was hilarious. Who needs half a tub of foundation on their face anyway?! \whispers/ the foundation queen
You nailed it, Robert, when it comes to that viral foundation video.
i know your thoughts on potentially coming out with your own brand one day, but i promise you’ll have so many dedicated fans that would absolutely LOVE to buy products from you!
This eye look-and your makeup in general-is absolutely gorgeous
Robert: Let me just start by saying this…
Me: *trying to figure out what he’s gonna say about this kid doing make up*
Robert: One… I don’t like children enough to pretend-
Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep! Same thought process
😂😭